Delhi raises defence spending by 11.6 per cent

Published: March 1, 2011

Over 40 per cent of the defence budget will be spent on capital expenditure, according to Mukherjee. The rest will go towards maintaining the country’s armed forces.

NEW DEHLI: India on Monday raised its defence budget by a hefty 11.6 per cent from Rs1.47 trillion last year to Rs1.64 trillion in the financial year 2011-12. Last year, New Delhi raised defence spending by 4 per cent.

Analysts say the current increase is a sign that New Delhi is going ahead with its planned defence acquisitions. High on the country’s defence shopping list is a record-breaking $10.5 billion fighter jet contract and other deals – which are likely to be signed later this year.

“In an effort to procure modern weapons systems and defence equipment, the government has earmarked Rs692 billion for capital expenditure,” Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee told the Lok Sabha while presenting the budget.

Over 40 per cent of the defence budget will be spent on capital expenditure, according to Mukherjee. The rest will go towards maintaining the country’s armed forces. “Needless to say, any further requirement for the country’s defence will be met,” he said.

The Rs83.7 billion hike in capital expenditure comes at a time when New Delhi is looking to finalise big ticket deals to procure 126 multi-role combat aircraft, 197 light helicopters, 145 ultra-light Howitzers and C-17 heavy-lift aircraft for its military.

India has drawn up plans for spending over $100 billion on defence acquisitions in the next five to 10 years.

Of the total budgetary allocation for 2011-12, the army has been granted Rs642.5 billion,  the navy Rs105.9 billion, the air force Rs159.3 billion and Defence Research and Development Organisation Rs56.24 billion.

From the Rs692 billion capital outlay, the army got Rs189.9 billion, the navy Rs56.9 billion, naval fleet Rs73.2 billion and the air force Rs307 billion.

Defence Minister A K Antony termed the increase in allocation for his ministry as “good and positive”. “We welcome it as our concerns have been, by and large, addressed.” Minister of State for Defence M M Pallam Raju also described it as a “substantial” rise for his ministry in view of the Rs699.2 billion capital outlay. “This is a substantial increase,” he told reporters.

Independent experts, however, were not sure whether it would be sufficient for India’s needs. Gurmeet Kanwal, who heads the government-funded Centre for Land Warfare Studies, said the defence allocation was enough to proceed with the fighter aircraft deal, but warned it may not leave much room for other arms imports.

“In the first year there is a signing amount you have to pay which shouldn’t be a problem,” Kanwal pointed out. Ajai Sahni of the Institute for Conflict Management also said the increase was modest. “It’s not a dramatic increase if you take inflation into account. Military inflation will be even higher,” Sahni added.

The finance minister also made provisions for the recruitment of 2,000 youth in the five paramilitary forces. Jammu and Ladakh were allocated money for development. Both are part of the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir.

With input from Reuters

Published in The Express Tribune, March 1st, 2011.

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Reader Comments (61)

  • Imran
    Mar 1, 2011 - 7:47AM

    I feel india is a bigger country and responsible democratic country which have global ambition.
    They can afford to spend more.Recommend

  • vasan
    Mar 1, 2011 - 8:48AM

    Yeah: India raised its budgetary allocation for Education, health, agri loans and infra by more than 20% while defence got 12%. But look at the focus of this paper. Speaks volumes of where there priorities areRecommend

  • Sumair
    Mar 1, 2011 - 9:52AM

    Since India is booming and growing, why there is a need to such incremental spending on defense, instead of focusing on investing on economy? Are not they driving to de-stablize the power balance of sub-continental now?Recommend

  • Ravi
    Mar 1, 2011 - 9:53AM

    If you care fully analyse all this so called increase in defence budget will end up paying for the rising inflation for the forces. As the two digit inflation in india is considered the whole 11% increase in defence spending becomes nothing. Recommend

  • gr
    Mar 1, 2011 - 11:01AM

    Pakistan should hike its defense spending by more than 20% to show India that it can do one better. And it should also build more nuclear missiles and bombs to prove to India, Israel and America that it has self-respect and cant be pushed around by the evil RAW, MOSSAD & CIA.Recommend

  • Raj
    Mar 1, 2011 - 11:44AM

    11.6% of GDP are pea nuts for a country like the size of India.Recommend

  • vasan
    Mar 1, 2011 - 11:48AM

    gr: Will be happy if Pakistan increases its education, agri, infra and healthcare budgetary allocations by more than 25% like India has done. Why do u guys pick only arms connected info and go gungho about it. After all India has no record of initiating any war with Pakistan.
    And by the way the evil RAW/MOSSAD/CIA dont have to push Pakistan , that job is very well done by the TTP/LeT/LeJ/ISI/JuD and the millions of such mobs in Pakistan itself.Recommend

  • Anoop
    Mar 1, 2011 - 11:57AM

    @gr,

    I hope you were being sarcastic.

    Pakistan has a debt of $59 Billion with a Forex which will last only a few weeks. It would be bankrupt expect if US had not given so much money and persuaded IMF and WB to do the same.Recommend

  • verming
    Mar 1, 2011 - 12:19PM

    @gr:
    “Pakistan should hike its defense spending by more than 20% to show India that it can do one better”
    Only if words were money, where do you intend to beg this timeRecommend

  • Ashraf
    Mar 1, 2011 - 12:25PM

    Pakistan should also increase its defence budget by at least 15%. When petrol prices can be increased by 10% in a day, why can’t defense budget be increased by 15%?
    Wah! Kya logic hai !! I am so clever. Thank you in advance for all the praise I am about to receive from you.Recommend

  • sbp
    Mar 1, 2011 - 12:32PM

    The important point that is missing in this article is the fact that even with this increase in defense spending, it still remains well short of 2.5% of GDP, one of the lowest for a major country. In comparison, Pakistan spends 5 -12% of GDP if one includes military pensions, perks and debt servicing on past military acquisitions.Recommend

  • Bambbaayyaa
    Mar 1, 2011 - 2:23PM

    Dose anyone think that pakistan is a factor in Indias defence spending ???
    Pkaistan has already surpassed its use by date …Recommend

  • nasar ali
    Mar 1, 2011 - 4:51PM

    Since economically Pakistan is completely broken-down and financially (as well as morally) bankrupt, we shall respond to this totally uncalled for sharp hike in India’s military budget militarily – and that too in such a creative manner that the Indians will never be able to guess, much less emulate – by increasing the number of plots of land that our army generals can allot to themselves for free in their housing schemes, euphemistically called Defense Housing Authorities et al.Recommend

  • J Oberoi
    Mar 1, 2011 - 5:25PM

    Why can’t Pakistan outsource it’s defense needs to India? If any nation attacks Pakistan, India will guarantee its protection. It will open a new era of cooperation.Recommend

  • somdet
    Mar 1, 2011 - 5:25PM

    pakistan must increase its defence spending by the same amount india is spending, whatever be the %.. we cannot be left behind. PPP take note, else you will not be forgiven.Recommend

  • Imran H
    Mar 1, 2011 - 7:54PM

    I some how tend to agree with J. oberoi here … in a way if it works it may be the best thing to happen and peace may come back to this subcontinent earlier by a 100 years. If there were no needs for defence spending, just imagine how much there is for everyone!!! if only people that matter understand this.Recommend

  • *Let there be light*
    Mar 1, 2011 - 8:18PM

    Pakistan should increase its budget by 20% to feed its Biryani eating ideal fat people.Guys (Indians) have you ever worked with a Pakistani abroad.I have seen two groups of people who are lethargic . Pakistanis and Africans .They just want to sleep in the office and do nothing.In Dubai recruiting a Pakistani is a disaster, highly incapable.
    Three groups of people extremal hard-working Indians, Philippines and Bangladeshis.Recommend

  • Mar 1, 2011 - 8:30PM

    We have enough thiefs in our country. Every minister and every Leader / Dictator are thiefs. Then how can our country be improved? Corruption is common. Illiteracy is 55 to 60%. Terrorist Hub. Murders, firing, inflation and foreign pressure. We are depend on foreign charity for decades. If US will not give us charity, then where we will go and beg. In my openion India is doing good. They are far ahead then us. We only have nuclear weapons, they have everything Pin to Plane.Recommend

  • imran
    Mar 1, 2011 - 8:33PM

    practically india has never attacked pakistan.they dont desire to absorb us:-)pakistan should sign peace treaty with india and start to develop its economicy.moreover everyone in pakistan is so obsessed with india in comparison.we both have the poorest people in world.those poor will never develop until the subcontinent can unite.i am for european kind of treaty and i know it will help our nation.india lives in suspicion due to our unstable democracy and uncontrollable army.we can always live the way canada has a relation with usa.rationally i even want to get rid of our banana system where as a nation we cant do anything.we have similar culture and language.why cant we unify and form the strongest force in the world which will not be bully like usa which will become stronger than china and would have capability to become industrial and services capital which will be real leader of worldRecommend

  • Roflcopter
    Mar 1, 2011 - 8:40PM

    These spendings would be of no use when India gets nuked ;)Recommend

  • Hitesh
    Mar 1, 2011 - 9:08PM

    I am amazed at the comments made by Pakistani people. India’s is 8 times the size of Pakistan and has a different security paradigm given its needs and role in the world. Its military expenditure will reflect that. It is useless to compare yourself with India. Even if Pakistan spends it entire government revenue on defence (and nothing else), it would still be 1/3 that of India’s defence spending and in that process Pakistan will totally bankrupt itself. So, please realize your reality and move on.Recommend

  • Meekal Ahmed
    Mar 1, 2011 - 9:31PM

    @Ravi:
    There is no “two-digit” inflation in India. Inflation is around 8% and could be headed higher; however, food inflation is in double-digits but that is not what you deflate spending with.

    Some pretty scary people commenting here wanting Pakistan to spend more and more on defense.

    No food, no water, no electricity, no roads, no infrastructure, no health system, no education, no security, no law, no governance…… and we should spend more on defense??

    As for India being a global power, they should address their poverty concerns first. They have the largest concentration of poverty on earth. Does not strike me as the hallmark of a “global” power”. Recommend

  • saad
    Mar 1, 2011 - 10:02PM

    no need for arms. it’s all about your DNA. 1 pakistani equals to 35 indians. read your history. lets us clean our house first and then is india’s turnRecommend

  • QD
    Mar 1, 2011 - 11:32PM

    @Roflcopter:
    These defense spending will be of great use in intercepting and destroying all malfunctioning paki missiles with their non-fuctional “atum buns”, while Pakistan disappears from the face of this earth.Recommend

  • Uzair Javaid
    Mar 1, 2011 - 11:34PM

    @J Oberoi: ROFL !!! dude that is the best idea you would have ever come up with.! you could have won a noble prize for this. Like recently Baal Thakray said that if Pakistan reaches the final they would decide whether Pakistan is to play or not. You also have a person like Muslim extremists, only difference is that he is a hindu. Why on earth would Pakistan outsource its defence to india?? Why dont you first lift the curtain and let the world see your hindu fundamentalists, Samjhota express culprits including Col.Prohit. Unless you have extremists on both sides you cant sit with peace around us.Recommend

  • hitesh
    Mar 1, 2011 - 11:58PM

    I am amazed at some of the Pakistani comments. India is 8 times the size of Pakistan and it has a totally different security paradigm and role in the world. Its military spending will reflect that. It is useless to compare Pakistan with India. Even if Pakistan’s government were to spend its entire revenue on defense (and nothing else), it would still amount to only 1/3rd that of India and in that process Pakistan would bankrupt itself. So please realize your reality, stop making delusional remarks and move on.Recommend

  • Yasar
    Mar 2, 2011 - 12:31AM

    I am amazed that Indian net citizens need to gloat about their nation on Pakistani sites. Where is the moderation from site.Recommend

  • QD
    Mar 2, 2011 - 2:59AM

    @Yasar:
    It is not “gloating” — just a reminder of reality from which some Pak citizens seem to be totally detached. If we were to try to promote ourself (“gloat” as you call it), Pak would certainly not be in our list of audience.

    If Pak sites and citizens make comments about India, you are certainly inviting a response.Recommend

  • Rohit
    Mar 2, 2011 - 6:54AM

    Try matching India, and Pakistan will go broke in no time. You guys are bankrupt & crushed under billions in debt. Your livelihood depends on day to day alms that America & other western countries throw at you. I am aghast at the bellirgent manner in which some of you buffoons want to compete with India.

    We will eat you up for breakfast before the sun comes out. Recommend

  • iceman
    Mar 2, 2011 - 9:52AM

    @Roflcopter
    pls show maturity Recommend

  • Anoop
    Mar 2, 2011 - 10:40AM

    @Meekal Ahmed,

    Even China has a lot of poverty still. India is at the level China was in 1990. In 2 decades it achieved high growth rates which reduced poverty greatly. Same is going to happen with India.

    India is predicted by WB to become the fastest growing country in just 3 years. That is precisely from India derives its power.

    If YOU think India is not a global player, that is your opinion. The way rest of the World treats India is completely different.Recommend

  • Anonymous
    Mar 2, 2011 - 10:53AM

    @saad:
    “1 Pakistani=35 Indians” and you still loose the wars which you plan and initiate. Indeed its the DNA. Nothing else can explain it.Recommend

  • gr
    Mar 2, 2011 - 12:21PM

    vasan:
    Forget about increasing money for education, girls and healthcare. Thats for sissy’s. Real men in real powerful and self-respecting countries only go for guns, missiles and nuclear bombs.

    anoop, verming:
    You ask how we can get money to increase our defense budget and become a real self-respecting country..well here’s an idea..I am sure that the American’s will be willing to give another couple of squadrons of F16s for Raymond Davis. And the Chinese will be more than happy to give us more missiles and better nuclear bombs if we promise not to liberate XinjiangRecommend

  • gr
    Mar 2, 2011 - 12:57PM

    @vasan:
    Come on. Everyone knows that the TTP/LeT/LeJ/ISI/JuD are paid for by the evil Mossad, RAW and CIA to create trouble in our great country. They want to grab our nuclear bombs and prevent us from being a shining example of a great nation in the world. They are jealous of us and so give money to some bad characters to prevent us from making progressRecommend

  • iceman
    Mar 2, 2011 - 7:10PM

    @ gr
    its u exporting terrorism everywhere, Recommend

  • Nishant
    Mar 2, 2011 - 8:38PM

    @imran.
    Yes we have poor people in our country [and tons of Billionaires too].But unity with pakistan for development ain’t possible even in our worst nightmare.Thanks for your free suggestion,but we really don’t want to deal with more fanatics who are always ready to destroy almost anything.We are happy [or say more than just happy] with what we are today:)

    FYI: Separation of pakistan from India was one of the Best things that could ever happened to us. Recommend

  • gr
    Mar 2, 2011 - 10:30PM

    @saad:
    Thats not right. 1 Pakistani is equal to 350 Indians right now and not 35 Indians. And when we make more missiles and nuclear bombs by increasing out defense spending by 20%, then 1 Pakistani will be equal to 3500 Indians.Recommend

  • Sana
    Mar 2, 2011 - 11:02PM

    I represent the modern pakistani woman and i assure that once women come into power,we will sign 100 year Peace treaty with india.We are such a big nation to be absorbed by our neighbor.
    Economically,politically,socially pakistan can develop if it has best relations with india.
    Does Sweden,finland,spain have military?We can outsource all our defense to india for no money.It will save us 10 billion dollar of defense (direct and indirect expense),in return we will want indian companies to invest 2-4 billion dollar yearly and create industries for us.Border would be opened for tourist,business and trade.Lets support indian companies to create assets here which will directly protect pakistan interests.We will also allow india to trade to central asia and ask them to allow us to other indian neighbors.

    Corruption,rape,murder crime in entire SAARC region would not be bailable and should be solved with in 90 days.SAFTA should be implemented.

    Economic dependence can solve all disputes.
    Literally we are from same ancestors but are divided by religion.Hindustani culture is embedded in our life.Recommend

  • sa
    Mar 2, 2011 - 11:54PM

    @sana who says we have same ancestor. We have ruled India for 1000 year. We may beTurks, Arabs and Mongols but definitely not indians.
    @gr You seem to be patriotic muslim. Recommend

  • Nishant
    Mar 3, 2011 - 12:40AM

    “”",in return we will want indian companies to invest 2-4 billion dollar yearly and create industries for us.”"”
    hehehehehehe
    Sana..your comment is nice but not practical @ all.Plz live and let us live.We don’t want anything from pakistan and we don’t have anything to offer pakistan.

    and as i just said “Separation of pakistan from India was one of the Best things that ever happened to us.”Recommend

  • Sankalp
    Mar 3, 2011 - 12:45AM

    @Sana – Bravo! Nice assessment although thats farce from happening ;) Recommend

  • Sid
    Mar 3, 2011 - 2:56AM

    @all

    This kind of topic always brings the best out of two nations pathetic patriots. But at least we have some discussion going on even if it is brick bats and less of bouquets. From where I live , I have Indian neighborhood and Pakistani neighborhood and all of those who have lived in similar places around the world will swear by this that no matter how much we hate each other in our home country, we somehow live way peacefully outside. Both our nations are corrupted by religious fanatics who creates prejudices against each other and make common man ( who are usually emotionally blind when it comes to religion) fight with each other. How many of these religious leader have themselves done the dirty job ? They just brainwash common people and use them as weapon. Who needs hike in defense spending and modern weapon when humans and human emotions makes the most dangerous weapon in this modern world. The effect of which we are seeing across the globe. Every day some regime is being toppled by will of the people. If the will is more for freedom and liberation from suppression it is productive for the nation if the will is coming from religious zeal , then we are already doomed. So my friends argue as you may about how 1 pakistani is equal to 3500 indians or how indian jets are better than pakistan, in the end we both will be still existing next to each other in hatred or with peace. So why not peace ?

    Ideal thing would be for all India, China and Pakistan to bring down their stockpile to avoid any intimidation to neighbours and prevent our leaders to use this intimidation as excuse to spend hard earned citizen’s money for weapon ( and more scam).

    But unfortunately its just a wishful thinking of a common man who just wants to live and take care of his family and enjoy life with his friends and neighbors

    Peace to South Asia.Recommend

  • Sana
    Mar 3, 2011 - 3:10AM

    @sa
    Brother read the history.Indic civilization is 5000 years old.
    We were part of indus valley provinces which were many princely states.The country where we live was origin of vedas,buddhism which is imbibed in us.
    The place where we live was ruled by many hindus,buddhism,muslim and sikh dynasty.
    Donot take credit for them.
    Remember,none of us ruled india for 1000 years.It was warlords from afgan who ruled.
    Don’t tell me that one hundred army of afganistan who came to india,produced 500 million muslims in subcontinent.

    I have the punjabi blood and my culture and civilization were more developed than afgans tribes.we lived peacefully ,unlike the clans you are trying to link us with.

    @Nishant

    we also want to live respectfully and whatever i said would be good for subcontinent.
    May be separation was good for india but we are yet to become truly independent.
    As nations we must fight against common problems :corruption,intolerance,fundamentalism,
    illiteracy and poverty.These problems are common to subcontinent.We are little unlucky to fall in wrong cards by toeing American interests and have become scapegoat in our own war.
    As the largest democracy and our neighbor ,india should come forward to help us.

    Death of minority minister and growing fears among minorities have already reduced our image in other countries.Europeans union are connected by common interests.Why cant we ?

    @All indians

    99.99% of pakistanis endorse my view and we are as peaceful,tolerant as you are.There are few politicians and maulvi who do cheap politics and powerful army which mongers indio phobia in our society.They dont represent our nation.Recommend

  • QD
    Mar 3, 2011 - 3:38AM

    @gr:
    “I am sure that the American’s will be willing to give another couple of squadrons of F16s for Raymond Davis. And the Chinese will be more than happy to give us more missiles and better nuclear bombs if we promise not to liberate Xinjiang”

    Boy! How much delisional can one get? The American will certainly send some F-16s to bomb the crap out of you. As far as liberating Xinjiang, be prepared to “receive” some Chinese missiles and N-bombs.

    @sa:
    “who says we have same ancestor. We have ruled India for 1000 year. We may beTurks, Arabs and Mongols but definitely not indians.”

    You bet you are not Indians. You are the descendants of the “underclass” of the subcontinent who were forcibly converted by muslim Invaders. There is not a drop of Arab, Turk or Mongol blood in you. They only came, looted and left. Get your DNA checked. You will soon find your ancestry and reality. Go to the Middle East and you will soon find out how much of a “brother” you are. They do not even consider you a ‘muslim’ but as their slave who follow their religion.

    BTW, no muslim invaders ruled india for 1000 years. They only started coming in 1100AD and the only ones who stayed and ruled were the Mughals between 1550 and 1700 AD ie 150 years.Recommend

  • gr
    Mar 3, 2011 - 9:58AM

    @sa:
    What is your definition of a ‘patriotic muslim’? Is it someone who rants that 1 Pakistani is worth 35 Indians or 350 Indians or 3500 Indians? Or who thinks that the ‘evil CIA/MOSSAD/RAW are out to get Pakistan’? Or who thinks that Pakistan should blackmail the US to get F16s or make deals with China to get nuclear and missile technology?
    By the way, I was being totally sarcastic and making fun of the nut cases. And people were recommending some of my really nutty and crazy postings. It was pretty funny and I had a good laugh over it.
    But on a more serious note I am interested in your definition of a ‘patriotic muslim’.Recommend

  • Sankalp
    Mar 3, 2011 - 12:02PM

    @Sana

    99.99% of pakistanis endorse my view and we are as peaceful,tolerant as you
    are.

    Is it? Well its a little tough to beleive wen you read the likes of gr, sa & QD.Recommend

  • Ashutosh
    Mar 3, 2011 - 8:26PM

    Well out sourcing the defense may not be possible. However there are many avenues that Pakistan can do wonders with all dignity and self respect if peace and harmony is attained within Pakistan and with its neighbours. I can write a whole book but just to highlight few are as follows:
    – Make world class road, rail and gas & oil pipelines connect between various CIS nations and Afghanistan at one end and various ports and India at the other end. Pakistan can then charge right of way in the long run and in local people will get huge employment in construction and maintenance of these connects.
    -Special economic zones can come up along these roads/ rail connectivity as the investors can have access to the raw material in Baluchistan & Afghanistan and also easy connectivity to the CIS, Afghan, Pakistan and Indian markets.
    – The almost even strech of Paksian with Indian border will give easy access to Pakistani goods and services to various part of north and west India.
    – The benefit of large Indian market can we taken by all skills and talents like medicine, engineering, literature, plumbers, carpenter etc. which is right now limited to signers and actors.
    – An alternative avenue for quality higher educations.
    – Even in case of primary education, India is trying to use satalite to reach the villiages and the impossible tarrians. This can be extended to SAARC nation without extra burden to India.
    – Quality medical services at reasonable cost.
    – Tata group had invested US $ 2 billion in Bangladesh. India is the 2nd largest investor in UK. Why do any one doubt the potential of Indian investors? I am sure, if things Improve, the largest investor in Pakistan will be Indians.
    -

    Indians and Pakistanis know each other very well both culturally and linguistically. I am sure they not have any problem in dealing with each other.

    The benefit of a decent and civilized Pakistan is endless for Pakistanis (and Indians are the 2nd largest beneficiary) and the world in general.Recommend

  • Canadian
    Mar 3, 2011 - 10:50PM

    @Gr
    Dude…enjoyed reading your comments! Kind of had the feeling you had to be either the biggest moron I have come across or among the few people who had sometime sensible to say (but said it in a unique way). I am glad turned out to be the latter

    @Sana
    A nice sentiment…I guess sometimes one has to just look back at ones roots in history to make sense of the chaos we have today…and who knows the answer might also lie somewhere back there.Recommend

  • Nitin
    Mar 4, 2011 - 12:34AM

    I would rather that india spend that money on building up infrastucture (education, highways, electricity etc.) than on defence. And as far as defence is concerned, I don’t think buying all this expensive equipment is going to deter another Mumbai like attack (which BTW, is the biggest threat; as far as threat from China is concerned, the probabilities are very small, because of the growing economic relationship between India and China) – instead, india should spent more on its intelligence, since that is the best weapon to deter any terrorist attacks on our soil. One of the most impressive things that I find about US, UK and Isreal is that their intelligence is excellent – after the 9/11 or 7/7, there has been NO attack on their soil (and the credit goes to their intelligence). Recommend

  • Cherish Raj
    Mar 4, 2011 - 1:32AM

    There are a number of huge investment options if peace exists between India and Pakistan. The greatest hurdle to India’s industrialization is land ( because of high density of population) and lack of energy sources. Pakistan’s hurdle is the lack of investment in the power sector. Actually Balochistan is land rich and borders Iran, an energy rich nation. Indian power corporations like Reliance Power, Tata Power, Adani power etc can set up huge power plants in Balochistan and export power to energy hungry India and the other provinces of Pakistan. Even coal can be imported from South Africa and Australia through the Gwadar port. The port can turn into another Shenzen.But for this to become a reality, capitalism should replace extremism and ultra-nationalism in the subcontinent. I do not see that happening though. Recommend

  • maynotmatter@gmail.com
    Mar 4, 2011 - 4:36AM

    @Ashutosh

    As noble as your idea is, we cannot preach pakistan to do what we don’t practice. We in India don’t have excellent infrastructure, not even good to be honest. In spite of improvements we made, we lag far behind compare to lesser economic power countries across the world. Same goes for we asking for civilized pakistan, since we ourselves have quite few uncivilized people in our side. Evil doesn’t choose nation or religion or people. It is people who chooses evil. And those people can be anywhere. Just pricking unfortunate situation in one’s country and asking them to improve doesn’t make u bigger or better than them. It is such an act of needless pity and lack of empathy which kicks the ego in its guts and rift us apart further. If you genuinely wish good for fellow human , help him and not preach him. What we need from both our countries is leap of faith and not suggestions on how the other should fix their problems.

    Peace to South AsiaRecommend

  • Ashraf R
    Mar 4, 2011 - 7:39AM

    The main difference I see between the two armies apart from the difference in budget, is that one army is a professional fighting force while the other fights part-time. Pakistan’s Generals are politicians, businessmen, landlords and lastly fighters.

    Both armies have corrupt people in them but one nation has no problem in taking the most powerful generals to court while the other brushes everything under the carpet. Civilian governments are always under the thumbs of the generals in Pakistan and the intelligence community is deeply involved in playing a supporting role to the politically-minded generals. Recommend

  • sandy
    Mar 4, 2011 - 9:18AM

    @Ashu
    Why wasting time in pak forums? You have good ideas.. share it in our country. No need to guide pakis and leave them with their failure. let us concentrate on india. Recommend

  • verming
    Mar 4, 2011 - 12:12PM

    @gr:
    1 Pakistani=35 or 3500 Indians

    O totally agree with you, the output of 3500 Indians is matched by a single Pakistani
    As far as number of nukes & missiles are concerned keep them collecting from China don’t worry about food clothing and medicine the world will donate it’s surplus to you Recommend

  • ashok sai
    Mar 4, 2011 - 12:27PM

    Being an Indian, its very scary to witness the happenings in Pakistan nowadays, wished Pakistan could be in somewhere else on the globe, not as our neighbours.Recommend

  • Ashutosh
    Mar 4, 2011 - 1:38PM

    @sandy:
    So many good things happening in India, and with the type of democracy, democratic institutions and systems, we are assured of a secured and progressive future.

    But if the neignbourhood on fire, we can not sit at ease. A peaceful, secure and progressive neighbourhood will further assure our peace & security. This also gives us a chance to further trade and business with the neighbours and add to the prosperity of our Great Nation.

    A good guidance (it is a good guidance) if it benefits Pakistan immanencely, it surely benefits India too. It also benefits many of the land lock CIS nations and Afghanistan too.

    My guidance is does not ignore the benefits that India might derive.Recommend

  • rk
    Mar 4, 2011 - 2:11PM

    @Ashraf: Dear Ashraf. the question is that from where pakistan will bring the money to increase 25% in defence. There is no comparision with India. India is spending Just 2% of its GDP and Pakistan already spending more than 7% of its GDP on defence. So please just lets think about pakistan not about india. Every country has there own requirement.Recommend

  • rk
    Mar 4, 2011 - 2:19PM

    @Roflcopter: Dear do you think when u will nuked india and do you have any idea that which part of the world you will hide yourself from india. Just be a human do not destroy your own country.Recommend

  • rk
    Mar 4, 2011 - 2:23PM

    @saad: do your remember 16 december 1971. if you said 1 paki is equil to 35 indian. Then read the history what has happened on 16dec 1971.Recommend

  • rk
    Mar 4, 2011 - 2:28PM

    @Sana:
    i agreedRecommend

  • Hasan
    Mar 13, 2011 - 4:53PM

    @Cherish Raj
    I agree with you completely but extremism on BOTH sides should be ended.The only way is to work together and stop blame game only then Pakistan and India can live peacefully and be great friends instead of foes.Recommend

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