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Reko Diq and Samar Mubarakmand

Published: January 24, 2011

The writer is a Rhodes Scholar from Pakistan at Magdalen College, University of Oxford [email protected]

Of late, the Reko Diq controversy has been an issue that one wanted to get to the bottom of. The one person who is at the forefront of the debate is nuclear scientist Dr Samar Mubarakmand. I was hesitant when I emailed Dr Samar for a meeting and wondered whether my email would even get through to him — so I was pleasantly surprised when I got an immediate response.

Mazing through the relatively unending security checks in the prime minister’s secretariat, I finally wound my way to the planning commission building. Tucked away in a corner, I was ushered into Dr Samar’s office without being asked to wait for hours, shattering another oft-heard myth that one has to wait for ages if meeting someone in the prime minister’s secretariat.

Seated behind his research-papers strewn mahogany desk, Dr Samar comes off as a humble man. He put me at ease immediately, by telling me that he had cancelled all his appointments for the morning and was more than happy to answer any queries that were unsettling me.

He started off by recounting the days from his youth when, out of pure hard work and sheer genius, he was fortunate to finish his doctoral training in physics at Oxford. One notion was always supreme in his mind: He wanted to return and serve Pakistan right from the start, and this belief never faltered. Coming back, he started his own lab, which grew exponentially and ultimately resulted in Pakistan becoming a pioneer of nuclear and missile technology. He mentioned candidly that critics say that Pakistan’s missile programme is a remnant of North Korea’s missiles, but the truth is that Pakistani scientists have proven their own indigenous expertise time and again, with the unveiling of even more sophisticated and reliable defence systems than those of the North Koreans.

The Thar Coal reserves were found decades ago, but to-date no substantial progress had been made, until he stepped into the picture. He explained that the coal is too deep and not feasible to be mined and that is why they came up with a novel technique of underground combustion, whose preliminary results are going to come in the next couple of months. This whole pilot study at Thar was done using indigenous talent and expertise. He was asked whether Pakistan possessed enough expertise to mine and utilise these resources and he replied that it had already mastered techniques for mining uranium as a part of the nuclear programme and this whole business was just an extension of using the same skill-set, albeit for a different material and setting.  Whenever you have a professional doing a job, it is bound to produce results, and Pakistan has been blessed with enough scientists that it can do the things it wants done.

Published in The Express Tribune, January 24th, 2011.

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Reader Comments (60)

  • Sara
    Jan 24, 2011 - 12:39AM

    Thanx ALI.Recommend

  • Syed Nadir El-Edroos
    Jan 24, 2011 - 1:01AM

    He just said that it is to deep to mine, then how does the experience of mining uranium help? So many mining experts have questioned his assumptions and his expertise, however his status in regards to Pakistan’s nuclear program means that he is above any criticism. Its amazing how everyone believes that every avenue of civilian governance is corrupt, and everything coming out of the state an example of government failure. Yet here we have an individual who is feted and whose conclusions are considered truth without evaluation. Pray, before we allocate millions if not billions to one individual and his word that something is actually achieved, proven and found commercially viable. Recommend

  • MK
    Jan 24, 2011 - 1:55AM

    The title of this article is “Reko Diq and Samar Mubarakmand” while he mentioned Reko Diq in first few words and thats it.Recommend

  • Jan 24, 2011 - 4:52AM

    Great write up :) Sharing this….Recommend

  • Amadeus
    Jan 24, 2011 - 9:54AM

    ok, sooo?Recommend

  • Mohammad Ghufran
    Jan 24, 2011 - 9:56AM

    Hey Ali,

    Good to see a post from you here! And yes, we need people like Dr. Samar at the helm of things in Pakistan. You get this urge to focus and do something for this country after meeting with him. We all say that we don’t have this or that and we can’t do anything in Pakistan – but when you talk to guys like him, you realize how they kept everything aside and worked for the country. Doing work no less than miracles in the circumstances they were in.. Recommend

  • Mortisitis
    Jan 24, 2011 - 10:13AM

    May God Bless this person, as he might become the light at the end of the tunnel for Pakistanis.Recommend

  • issam khan
    Jan 24, 2011 - 10:33AM

    Why does this guy write for the tribune…shows the lack of editorial standards for a faltering newspaper…Recommend

  • observer
    Jan 24, 2011 - 11:32AM

    @Author

    Reko Diq to the best of my understanding ia about Gold and Copper mining and is distinct from the Thar Coal Project. Even though the Tiltle mentions Riko Diq, the writeup is all about Thar Coal Project.

    The Author further says,

    he started his own lab, which grew
    exponentially and ultimately resulted
    in Pakistan becoming a pioneer of
    nuclear and missile technology.

    And this is what Dr A Q Khan has to say in today’s The News
    The PAEC has existed for more than 50 years and employs almost 20,000 people, but it has not been able to make a single power reactor, even of a small size. This is despite the fact that the technology itself is half-a-century old, and India and South Korea are among countries which have been producing reactors for years. The one at Karachi was supplied by Canada and the two at Chashma by China.

    Well a ‘Pioneer of Nuclear Technology’ should be able to construct a reactor or two.Incidentally, can one have an idea of the number of patents the ‘pioneers of nuclear and missile technology’ have in these fields.Recommend

  • Topak Khan
    Jan 24, 2011 - 11:45AM

    I thought it was about Reko Diq, did i doze off while reading tht i missed it?
    or title should have been Dr. Mand- the Minning Superhero (I don’t mean disrespect to Dr. Mand but this going too far now, we need to develop institutions in private sector not rely on person do everything for us)Recommend

  • A.Malik
    Jan 24, 2011 - 11:46AM

    Projects we cannot handle (Dr A Q Khan)

    THE NEWS (Monday, January 24, 2011 )

    This is very clear message from AQ khan which 200% based on fact, and this is our habit and culture that our doctor is politician, politician is singer, singer is cricketer, every one want to be jack in all trade but unfortunately they are master in none, and interfere in other’s professional which they do not know the ABC of that, the nuclear scientist does not know the workings of business nor does he have any experience, Why can’t we behave like a civilized nation looking after its interest for the sake of its people. to me the main mission and aim of cancelling this project is due to the shares of Baluchistan, this is first opportunity that Baluchistan has its own business which is very hard for rulers to digest this, the aim is to keep Baloch deprive how much possible and loot there resources. The powerful lobbies and rulers will never let Balochistan to benefit from this as has always been the case.
    The very best example in this sector is Sain Dak copper gold mine, smaller size had been initiated using foreign contractors to build it in 1990′s. When it came online and Pakistani government took over, it started to make losses after losses despite the gold and copper flowing from it. It had become the world’s first loss making gold mine by late 1990′s and the budgetary comity had to close it down to stop the losses. Later on it was given to Chinese operators who are running it today.
    We should salute Dr. A K Khan saying the truth and our capabilityRecommend

  • Umayr Masud
    Jan 24, 2011 - 12:40PM

    Please change the heading, this feels like a cheap attempt for readership of an article.Recommend

  • myja
    Jan 24, 2011 - 2:29PM

    It sound more like a publicity campaign for both doctors rather than any thing elseRecommend

  • Abdullah
    Jan 24, 2011 - 2:31PM

    total confusion
    rekodik?? copper gold?? thar coal?? energy?? dr samar career?? north korea?? pakistan missile prog?? :S
    i mean what is he trying to establish here…..Recommend

  • Qasim
    Jan 24, 2011 - 2:48PM

    One hand is for Nuclear and Another is for Salvation , and Our head is bended down because we fear if US stops AID than what will be gonna in Pakistann ??? Righttt?! anyone has answer ..??!!Recommend

  • John
    Jan 24, 2011 - 2:48PM

    Very well-written!
    Clearly, Pakistan CAN get stuff done if it wants and the nuclear scientists are one of its few assets – it’s a shame the country has not used them for non-nuclear purposes so farRecommend

  • Ibrahim
    Jan 24, 2011 - 2:50PM

    Interesting article – shame that we Pakistanis have to make everything so controversial. Give the professional scientist a chance! The Thar Coal was found ages ago – what has been done so far? nothing, simply nothing! So if some local scientist wants to give it a shot, let him work!Recommend

  • Meekal Ahmed
    Jan 24, 2011 - 2:55PM

    Everyone should read a contrary view which says that we don’t have the skills to do this ourselves.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with a joint-venture. If it is flawed, it is because of us. We negotiated a bad deal (because of money). Don’t blame the outside partner. Recommend

  • Mahmood Hussain
    Jan 24, 2011 - 3:08PM

    I think everybody should read the Dr. Qadeer profile on wikipedia to aware his envious behavior with PAEC . What he did for country ? he deny after confession on Media about selling Nuclear secrets.Dr. Qadeer’s A.Q.Khan lab can’t conduct Nuclear test even in next 30 years. His cold test had already failed. His mysterious behavior on nuclear test site had observed by whole nation but ignored.On same Geo channel(aik din geo kay sath) he said that he don’t want to do for this nation in future if get chance.

    Any how! I am very promising and praying for Dr. Sammar Mubarik. he is very close to success and sooner will give a Good news to nation.Recommend

  • Jawad
    Jan 24, 2011 - 3:19PM

    We Pakistanis should be proud of Dr Samar – if he feels he can get the job done, give him half a chance – nothing wrong with that!Recommend

  • Baryal
    Jan 24, 2011 - 3:20PM

    lol… What an article :)Recommend

  • Komal
    Jan 24, 2011 - 4:38PM

    Interesting take on Samar Mubarakmand – here is one man who wants to make a difference for pakistan and we do not want to give him a chance – when will we stop squabbling with each other?Recommend

  • Sattar
    Jan 24, 2011 - 4:47PM

    Article is well written and well-researched. We need more articles along these lines.Recommend

  • Amir
    Jan 24, 2011 - 4:56PM

    Lol @ the article!

    Whenever you have a professional doing a job, it is bound to produce results, and Pakistan has been blessed with enough scientists …Ahh I wish we were blessed with better writers too! Recommend

  • Jamal
    Jan 24, 2011 - 5:08PM

    Pakistan is a blessed country – with resources and intelligence – just need to equate the two together – that is ALL that is neededRecommend

  • Ayesha
    Jan 24, 2011 - 5:12PM

    Why do we always have to criticize, criticize and criticize? Everyone of us wants to have their own unique identity – but remember the interests of the state supercede everyone – so give the scientists a chance!Recommend

  • Amir
    Jan 24, 2011 - 5:13PM

    As for Reko Diq I’ll second Dr.AQ Khan’s remarks:

    “If the deal for Reko Diq is faulty, hold the negotiators and the signatories responsible, not the foreign firm.It was our duty to safeguard and protect our national interests. However, such contracts are for mutual benefit – a question of give-and-take”Recommend

  • Ikram
    Jan 24, 2011 - 6:29PM

    Let’s not forget here Dr AQ Khan’s long enmity with PAEC. Dr Samar is a true hero for Pakistan – I hope his talents are also utilized in the non-nuclear areas.Recommend

  • Fizza
    Jan 24, 2011 - 6:30PM

    Timely and well-written pieceRecommend

  • Saleh
    Jan 24, 2011 - 6:39PM

    Good piece in the tribuneRecommend

  • Mahmood Hussain
    Jan 24, 2011 - 7:35PM

    This is real wonder that hamid meer first blame Govt. that it intent to fire Dr. Samar Mubarik from coal project( jang 13/12/2010). Now Dr. qadeer doing propoganda against the Dr. Samar Mubarik in same paper. hamid meer has spread millions of sms in public that Govt. is expelling Dr. Samar Mubarik in Dec.
    Conspiracy! But who are doing against whom????Recommend

  • Really?
    Jan 24, 2011 - 7:47PM

    Brother first ‘build’ television, dvd players and mobiles!!Recommend

  • Canuckistani
    Jan 24, 2011 - 8:40PM

    Was there some purpose or point to this piece? It seems incomplete and lacks substance. The only thing the author has managed to tell us is that he spoke to and met Dr Mubarakmand…big whoop! Is the Editor asleep?Recommend

  • angry young man
    Jan 24, 2011 - 9:17PM

    What the writer wants by this article, it even does not have the detailed information and not the correct title!!!! The only thing prominent is OXFORD, waoo, very poor, it should be named as samar mubarakmand praise game. I do not know why in his last time of tenure he has gone so loyal. Why….. if he knew how to do it, why in the first place foreign companies were allotted licenses.

    As for the Reko Diq, as per my knowledge, Pakistan tried to run saindak , a small mine then reko diq, but could not run for 90 days, and shut it down for 6 years and after that given to some foreign company on 100 %, no share , where all the money was spent by Pakistan, not a single penny from the company, and regarding thar coal, i totally agree with Dr. A.Q khan.

    He can never have a respect like A.Q khan, his article is very impressive and true. and please correct me if I am wrong,

    Vote for PTI = Vote for PakistanRecommend

  • saqib
    Jan 24, 2011 - 9:17PM

    Article title doesn’t shadow the story inside but i like the effort.

    Keep it up AliRecommend

  • Mina
    Jan 24, 2011 - 10:32PM

    Very interesting article – Dr Samar is a true hero of Pakistan!Recommend

  • Moizza B Sarwar
    Jan 24, 2011 - 10:37PM

    This article addresses none of the issues surrounding the Reko Diq deal and is seriously mis-titled. The information provided in the last paragraph is of a descriptive nature and the author would have done well to extend his analysis and questions to more relevant questions of the role of TTC in mining. At present it reflects a wasted opportunity at the Secretariat.Recommend

  • Adil
    Jan 24, 2011 - 11:05PM

    it finished before it started. What a time waste!Recommend

  • Arslan
    Jan 24, 2011 - 11:26PM

    Good article about Dr Samar – shows if you are passionate, doors always open up and you CAN make a difference even in Pakistan. Good article!Recommend

  • Uzair
    Jan 24, 2011 - 11:28PM

    Dr Samar is one of the last few assets in Pakistan – we need to use him NOW!!!Recommend

  • Hameed
    Jan 24, 2011 - 11:30PM

    Good article Dr Rai! – gives a good glimpse into Dr Samar’s life – the writer very aptly did not talk much about Reko Diq as the whole process is in the courts – no wonder he is a Rhodes Scholar!Recommend

  • Usman
    Jan 24, 2011 - 11:32PM

    Finally a humane look into Dr Samar and his work – good work!Recommend

  • M Bilal
    Jan 24, 2011 - 11:32PM

    Feels good when you read about such intellectuals of Pakistan especially ones who are active as well in serving Pakistan. Yes the tittle of article doesn’t go together with the content till the end, but still not a bad piece of writing to read. Cheers Mr. AliRecommend

  • Jan 25, 2011 - 5:40AM

    Wish you had written more about the history that was told by Dr Samar. Anyhow, last para IS informative. Recommend

  • Sardar
    Jan 25, 2011 - 5:50AM

    Excellent piece in the Tribune – a very good and informative readRecommend

  • Jamshed
    Jan 25, 2011 - 5:51AM

    Samar Mubarakmand is one of our few heroes who needs to be cherished to the max! Kudos to the author for doing this!Recommend

  • Bilal
    Jan 25, 2011 - 5:52AM

    Good tributeRecommend

  • Saran
    Jan 25, 2011 - 5:53AM

    Dr Samar seems like a genuine guy who wants to make a difference in PakistanRecommend

  • SSPanzer
    Jan 25, 2011 - 8:50AM

    What the copper metallurgist A Q Khan failed to mention is that PAEC not only constructed the Muslim world’s first indigenous plutonium production reactor starting in 1986 at Khushab, but has also completed two additional reactors at the same site based on its initial success. He will also never acknowledge that PAEC has built the entire nuclear fuel cycle infrastructure for Pakistan without which there would neither have been a weapons program, nor any civilian nuclear program.

    This fuel cycle infrastructure comprises uranium exploration sites throughout Pakistan; uranium mining and refining facilities at Baghalchur; a huge Chemical Plants Complex at Dera Ghazi Khan which produces uranium oxide and 200 tons of uranium hexafluoride gas each year, which is feedstock for the centrifuges at Kahuta (which was manned by PAEC manpower and launched by PAEC before his arrival in Pakistan).

    Without the hexafluoride gas, the gas-centrifuges would be enriching air instead of uranium; a nuclear fuel fabrication complex at Kundian which produces nuclear fuel for KANUPP and the first fuel element for KANUPP was produced within two years of Canadian cut off of supplies for it in 1976; a fuel reprocessing plant at New Labs which separates weapon-grade plutonium from irradiated spent fuel; a Uranium Metal Lab which converts the enriched uranium gas into metal and machines it into weapon cores; Laser and Optics Labs and Labs for producing the chemical high explosives and neutron sources for the weapons; the Theoretical Physics Group which designed Pakistan’s nuclear weapons; the Directorate of Technical Development which was responsible for the developing the trigger mechanism for the bomb and precision engineering and cold and hot testing of for nuclear devices of various sizes and yields; the solid fueled ballistic and cruise missile program at NDC; more a dozen nuclear medical centres; several bio-technology and genetic engineering labs that have produced high yield and disease resistant cotton and wheat crop, which is the back bone of Pakistan’s agriculture; Human Resource Development institutions like the Centre for Nuclear Studies which is today a university PIEAS and the entire infrastructure for the nuclear test sites at Chaghi- Kharan and Kirana Hills. It was at Kirana Hills that PAEC carried out the first cold test of a working nuclear device on March 11, 1983 and subsequently carried out 24 more cold tests in which 4-5 weapon designs were perfected and then hot tested by PAEC at Chaghi. Plus the entire import-oriented procurement network was set up in Europe by PAEC for all projects, including KRL whose import chain was later separated by A Q Khan and now we have the proliferation mess in our platter.

    As for constructing nuclear power reactors, PAEC had, in 1973, along with IAEA’s technical support, prepared a long-term energy security plan for Pakistan which called for setting up 24 nuclear power reactors by the end of the century. These were to be built with international assistance as Pakistan lacked the industrial base at that time and were hugely capital intensive projects and successive governments failed to provide PAEC with the funds for a power program due to lack of resources which could only be acquired through international help.

    However, India’s 1974 test put sanctions on Pakistan even for peaceful technology as Pakistan was not ready to sign NPT and had to put all its resources into the nuclear weapons program. But PAEC did design and produce plutonium production reactors without any foreign help but the government did not provide it with the necessary funds for power reactor projects. In March 1976, the ECNEC approved a 600 MW power reactor at Chashma, and this project could not be followed up due to the overthrow of the Zia regime which was naive about nuclear energy. The breakthrough came in 1986 when PAEC signed a civil nuclear cooperation agreement with China which broke international sanctions against Pakistan for power reactors and opened the way for four 300 MW Chashma power reactors. In 1990, France promised to provide PAEC with a 900 MW power reactor, but again with the change of government in Islamabad, the deal could not materialize.

    It took India ten years to complete a partially completed RAPS-II power reactor after the Canadians cut of assistance after India’s 1974 test, in spite of India’s elaborate industrial base. Even today countries like China and India are relying on western help in power reactor projects and that is justification put forward in the Indo-US nuclear deal. But unfortunately for Pakistan, the A Q Khan proliferation saga has damaged Pakistan’s otherwise clean nuclear record and now no country is willing to provide Pakistan with an Indo-US type civil nuclear deal and all nuclear suppliers are competing to grab the lucrative Indian nuclear energy market. It is easy to distort facts and put things out of context so that the gullible masses are led to believe that PAEC, which is today the largest Science and Technology organization in the country, is a failed institution, and only one individual is the man with the magic wand, who was asking the PAEC Chairman at the Chaghi test site just prior to the tests as to what will happen to the mountain after the explosion. The Chairman replied that the mountain will turn white.Recommend

  • Abdul Mannan Lodhi
    Jan 25, 2011 - 9:04AM

    REKODIK ….Dr Abdul Qadeer says in his article that Pakistani scientists are not capable of mining the copper and gold reserves while Dr samar Mand says that they can.It shall be best if a committee of atomic scientists and others if necessary is constituted with a view to study the project and give its opinion on the issue.There is nothing which a determined nation can not do.If other nations can do something we can also certainly do.But the problem is that we dont want to.And if those assigned with certain task fail to accomplish it they dont have to face the accounablity.We succeeded in making an atomic bomb because the scientists knew that the nation expects them to do their job and if they fail they will have to face the nation’s anger and accounability.Our leaders and others are involved in bad governance and other malpractices because they know that there is no body to check them.And if at all they are asked all they will have to do is to return some of it.This amonts to encouraging corruption.It means let us loot the nation.If at all we are caught all we shall have to do is to return a part of it and get away with the rest.No fine.No imprisonment.Our scientists should be assigned the task but if they fail they must face the consequences.They and every one of us can do what the other nation can but alas we dont want to.Recommend

  • Ali
    Jan 25, 2011 - 9:48AM

    one very stupid question? I guess Reko Diq as a paroject is different then Thar coal reserves? Reko Diq is mostly for gold reserves, isin’t that? Recommend

  • Ammar
    Jan 25, 2011 - 11:47AM

    @angry young man:

    Anger won’t help you, you must be reasonable. Secondly Dr. Khan is a loose cannon and your anger can not undo any successful man’s accomplishments, or prove any convict’s innocence. And vote for PTI? amazing :)Recommend

  • SUB
    Jan 26, 2011 - 11:02AM

    @ Mr. Author: Keep sending these posts and may be some day you would learn how to write at the expense of the poor readers. HeHe

    @ ET & the Readers: Why not have a program on Frontline with Samar Mubarikmand and Dr. AQ Khan. And see who is lying? Will do great for the ratings? May be people will forget Veena Malik :)Recommend

  • Mahmood Hussain
    Jan 26, 2011 - 12:55PM

    @Ammar! very well said. And bundles of thanks for Mr. S.S.Panzer for unveiling the truth about fake hero of Pakistan.@ Mr Lodhi has suggest that only scientist could decide about this Project fate.I think this nation and media are accountable for making a Khan hero whose role in Nuclear project was as thief more than scientist.Recommend

  • hina
    Jan 26, 2011 - 4:12PM

    whoever says well written and researched are most definitely friends or relatives of the author!Recommend

  • Usman
    Jan 26, 2011 - 7:08PM

    @A.Malik:
    Mr Malik, It is not because, Dr AQ Khan want to say the truth. Actually, in my opinion, he is a self-centric and a jealous scientist. Why didn’t he tell the truth when he said, “I can produce thousands of MWs of electricity in a short period of time?” I don’t know if you have read his article in Yesterdays Jang newspaper or not, but if you read it, he is asking to give the control of this project to him, and he can do that, but not Dr Samar.

    He did the same to undermine the excellent performance of Dr Atta ur Rehman as well.Recommend

  • Aamir+Ali
    Jan 26, 2011 - 11:04PM

    Not seeing the connection between Reko Diq and anything Mubarakmand said in this interview.Recommend

  • Muhammad Yaqub Shah
    Feb 12, 2011 - 9:42AM

    Why don’t Dr.Samar take interest in North Waziristan Copper Deposit where 30 million tons resource having 0.8% copper with associated siver, gold and cobalt with excellant infrastructure is available. All the relevant geotechnical data on this project is available with him that was provided through a presentation given at his office on 27th Aug, 2009. The 97 slides presentation that lasted for almost 4 hours duly attended by the eminent Geo-scientists of the country clearly indicates its economic viability as well.Recommend

  • MUHAMMAD YAQUB SHAH
    Feb 12, 2011 - 11:28AM

    Why don’t Dr. Samar Mubarakmand take interest in development and mining of North Waziristan Copper where a resource of 27 million tons having copper content of 0.8% plus appropriate amount of Gold, Silver and Cobalt along with excellent infrastructure facilities exists? All the relevant Geo-technical data is already provided to him through a 97 slides presentation on 27th Aug, 2009 that was attended by the eminent geo-scientists of the country. Its economic viability has already been established and If developed through indigenous resources, will establish a successful model for the future. Recommend

  • MUHAMMAD YAQUB SHAH
    Feb 12, 2011 - 2:55PM

    @Ikram:
    Why don’t Dr. Samar Mubarakmand take interest in development and mining of North Waziristan Copper where a resource of 27 million tons having copper content of 0.8% plus appropriate amount of Gold, Silver and Cobalt along with excellent infrastructure facilities exists? All the relevant Geo-technical data is already provided to him through a 97 slides presentation on 27th Aug, 2009 that was attended by the eminent geo-scientists of the country. Its economic viability has already been established and If developed through indigenous resources, will establish a successful model for the future. Recommend

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