Chinese pressure sees Pakistan mull constitutional status of Gilgit-Baltistan

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Published: January 7, 2016
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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is mulling upgrading the constitutional status of its northern Gilgit-Baltistan region, which is also claimed by India, in a bid to provide legal cover to a multi-billion-dollar Chinese investment plan, officials said Thursday.

The move could signal a historic shift in Pakistan’s position on the future of the wider Kashmir region, observers have said, dealing another potential blow to fragile peace talk efforts that received a boost after India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi visited Lahore in December.

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The proposal would see the mountainous region mentioned by name for the first time in Pakistan’s constitution, bringing it one step closer to being fully absorbed as an additional province.

Islamabad has historically insisted the parts of Kashmir it controls are semi-autonomous and has not formally integrated them into the country, in line with its position that a referendum should be carried out across the whole of the region.

Sajjadul Haq, spokesperson for the chief minister of Gilgit-Baltistan Hafiz Hafeez ur Rehman, told AFP: “A high level committee formed by the prime minister is working on the issue, you will hear good news soon.”

Rehman, who arrived in Islamabad Thursday, was working on the finishing touches to the agreement, a senior official said, adding the document could be unveiled “in a few days”.

In addition to being named in the constitution, Gilgit-Baltistan would also send two lawmakers to sit in the federal parliament — though they would be given observer status only.

A third top government official from Gilgit-Baltistan said the move was in response to concerns raised by Beijing about the China Pakistan Economic Corridor, an ambitious $46 billion infrastructure plan set to link China’s western city of Kashgar to the Pakistani port of Gwadar on the Arabian Sea.

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“China cannot afford to invest billions of dollars on a road that passes through a disputed territory claimed both by India and Pakistan,” the official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said.

The corridor plans have been strongly criticised by New Delhi, with India’s Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj in June calling the project “unacceptable” for crossing through Indian-claimed territory.

India and Pakistan have fought two full-scale wars over Kashmir, and any changes to the status quo could prove a further setback to hopes for dialogue that were revived after Modi made the historic Lahore visit.

Those efforts were already seen as fragile following a deadly attack on an Indian air base near the Pakistan border Saturday that was followed by a 25-hour siege on an Indian consulate in Afghanistan on Monday.

But according to Pakistani strategic analyst Ayesha Siddiqa, the move could also signal Islamabad’s desire to end the Kashmir conflict by formally absorbing the territory it controls — and, by extension, recognising New Delhi’s claims to parts of the region it controls, such as the Kashmir valley.

“If we begin to absorb it so can India. It legitimises their absorption of the Valley,” she said.

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  • Iqbal
    Jan 7, 2016 - 4:26PM

    I hope referendum is done before any such change keeping in with our principled stand on Kashmir issue.Recommend

  • Jan 7, 2016 - 4:37PM

    Hope this resolves the issue and both countries move on from here, leaving the Kashmir dispute behind.Recommend

  • Naasir
    Jan 7, 2016 - 4:39PM

    @Iqbal:
    Unfortunately, our principled stand is dependent on the highest bidder. Recommend

  • Sanjay Sharma
    Jan 7, 2016 - 5:00PM

    There is no other option to continue with this arrangement of having control the areas of J&K with both the countries under constitutional colour.Recommend

  • SGJ007
    Jan 7, 2016 - 5:27PM

    From last 70 years of dispute India never altered or tried to alter JK’s geographical borders. This move by Pakistan to bring change unilaterally in POK and GB without consulting India will further complicate the dispute and its relation with India. Pakistan is making huge compromise in doing so for few dollars investment.Recommend

  • pakistani
    Jan 7, 2016 - 5:27PM

    GB is not part of kashmir, Full stop. let the people progress,Recommend

  • Jan 7, 2016 - 5:29PM

    I really appreciated this move regarding current government it will strengthen the foundations of Pakistan. Gilgit Baltistan is Pakistan smallest and fifth province. There should be no doubt on it.Recommend

  • ali
    Jan 7, 2016 - 5:32PM

    this should have been decades ago.Recommend

  • Move on
    Jan 7, 2016 - 5:32PM

    About time we accept the geo politics, work within the practical framework and do not hold our future hostage to past history. We are all up for rights and free voice of Kashmiris but we have to make economic progress. Stronger economies make better partners for dialogue. Dialogue has the solution for a politically acceptable solution in which Kashmiris in addition to both the states are satisfied. Good move by Government. Please give AJK representation in national assembly as well. We have to move forward…. Recommend

  • Tassawur Kazmi
    Jan 7, 2016 - 5:48PM

    Iqbal sb.. Kashmiries never spoke in fevour of opressed ppl of GB.. they are enjoyng autonomus status… majority of GBIAN’s hv nothing to do with Kahsmiries.. mind it plzRecommend

  • JD
    Jan 7, 2016 - 6:01PM

    That aside, what if KP government (not just PTI but all the concerned parties) decides to block the routes passing through KP? Another Kalabagh in the making.Recommend

  • AD
    Jan 7, 2016 - 6:05PM

    That will give India a chance to abolish art 370 that gives special status to Kashmir
    This will also change the game as pakistan can mention UN resolution anymore
    China only sees its interest and high time we also do it than being colony of the powerfulRecommend

  • ihtisham masood
    Jan 7, 2016 - 6:05PM

    indian held kashmir is something we should not relate to the conception of G-B’s constitutional status. as the international community knows that india is holding kashmir by force and against the will of the kasmiri people. GB is the integral part of pakistan and there is no clue of any discontent within its people.Pakistan should go ahead with GB without keeping in mind the indian stance on the disputed territories.indai is a trangressor and is always making things harder for pakistan since its inception.Recommend

  • Jan 7, 2016 - 6:14PM

    if we are ready to make it a province before referendum they why we fought so much wars ,we can not afford compromise on kashmir, after so much tensions and struggle for decades we can,t compromise on kashmir.Recommend

  • voice of Gilgit
    Jan 7, 2016 - 6:15PM

    I am Gilgiti and i am a Pakistani since 1948, way i have been denied for my basic right since then? Recommend

  • vinsin
    Jan 7, 2016 - 6:31PM

    This is a disastrous step, doing so India will also remove article 370. Pakistan may gain but at the cost of Kashmir valley. This also means Pakistan acceptance of LOC as international border. In this age also Pakistan atleat have a legitimate claim over Kashmir Valley based on human rights. It is better than Pakistan accept Dixon Plan and then do it.Recommend

  • Ex PTI
    Jan 7, 2016 - 6:33PM

    About time we accept the geo politics, work within the practical framework and do not hold our future hostage to past history. We are all up for rights and free voice of Kashmiris but we have to make economic progress. Stronger economies make better partners for dialogue. Dialogue has the solution for a politically acceptable solution in which Kashmiris in addition to both the states are satisfied. Recommend

  • wiserneighbour
    Jan 7, 2016 - 6:42PM

    @iqbal,Such referendums are superseded by shimla agreement signed by India and Pakistan.Pakistan cannot unilaterally decide what to do with GB since it is a disputed area.Recommend

  • Shuaib
    Jan 7, 2016 - 6:46PM

    It should be absorbed after a referendum.Recommend

  • Shakil
    Jan 7, 2016 - 7:01PM

    Carry out a referendum to make it legal. Indians should conduct referendum too!Recommend

  • Prada
    Jan 7, 2016 - 7:11PM

    Maybe this is China’s way to foment peace in the region. This would make LoC as the international border.Recommend

  • Feedback
    Jan 7, 2016 - 7:18PM

    High time to declare Azad Jammu and Kashmir and Gilgit baltistan a province of Pakistan. Principled stand on kashmir issue is just adding into our defense budget.Recommend

  • Sandip
    Jan 7, 2016 - 7:25PM

    Don’t you dare. The whole of Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India. If Pakistan tries any such thing as mentioned in this article, it will be sowing the seeds of it’s own balkanisation.Recommend

  • brar
    Jan 7, 2016 - 7:30PM

    Absorb in Pakistan or give it to China there should be peace in the region and the common man soes not need Kashmir they want education,health facilities, clean drinking water and a roof for his children.Recommend

  • Raj - USA
    Jan 7, 2016 - 7:54PM

    Good to see China forcing Pakistan to settle Kashmir dispute with India on the basis that the region which is in control of each party is theirs. Recommend

  • Rafi
    Jan 7, 2016 - 8:06PM

    This is what India wants, to get an excuse to remove special status of Indian held Kashmir. Pakistan should not give this chance to India. And ultimately this act would weaken Kashmir cause.Recommend

  • Pakistani
    Jan 7, 2016 - 8:06PM

    G B is not part of kashmir.Maybe one upon a time it was part of the dgora empire but not anymore.India’s claim to HB is ludacrious and should be ignored.Recommend

  • hzr
    Jan 7, 2016 - 8:09PM

    Any move by China and-its suggestions has deeper strategic implications.This is evident in its South China sea spat and the riling of all its neighbours.Recommend

  • Indian
    Jan 7, 2016 - 8:14PM

    Give GB and PoK to China. Problem solved.Recommend

  • Sultan Abbas
    Jan 7, 2016 - 8:28PM

    The various princely states found in what is now popularly called Gilgit-Baltistan were never part of Kashmir, though briefly the Maharaja of Kashmir tried to dominate the autonomous fiefdoms in late 19th century after arrival of the British in South Asia. The people found in the lands of Hunza, Nagar, and the other regions have no, ethnic, cultural, historic or even religious connections with Kashmir. The sole link between Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan are the few immigrants who came as labourers, barbers and to undertake other manial jobs and settled in Gilgit city. The current GB chief minister Rehman has that Kashmiiri heritage- that’s why he is eagerly trumpeting the Kahmir cause horn at every available forum. that’s is context everyone must understand in pakistan. All the rest is just bad politics as it happens everywhere across the country. Recommend

  • JK
    Jan 7, 2016 - 8:29PM

    @ihtisham masood:
    The international community does not see through the glasses you vision impaired people have been prescribed.Recommend

  • Rafi
    Jan 7, 2016 - 8:42PM

    By denying the Kashmiris the right to self determination and deploying its 8 lakh army there, isn’t India occupying Kashmir by force?
    To draw an analogy, the state of Junagarh in gujarat, a princely state with hindu majority at the time of partition was ruled by a muslim ruler who decided to accede to pakistan but this did not go well with india and a plebiscite was held and Junagarh became a part of india. So a hindu majority state with a muslim ruler enjoys the right of self determination while as kashmir, a muslim majority state was denied that right and occupied on the plea that its Hindu raja acceded to india. If this is okk with you and you are calling kashmir an integral part of India just because that deluded Hari Singh signed a paper few decades back, then i think there is certainy something wrong with your reasoning and rational thought process. Just tell me if Junagarh was given the right to self determination, why has kashmir been deprived of that right for 70 years now. For GOD’s sake why????Recommend

  • Shahid Kinnare
    Jan 7, 2016 - 8:48PM

    What Pakistan can do is that it mention whole Kashmir as a part of Pakistan in its constitution. And than it can wait for right moment for the talks with India; no arm struggle Recommend

  • Balti
    Jan 7, 2016 - 8:52PM

    @Indian:
    Dear our region Gilgit Baltistan is part of pakistan since 1947.I belong to GB but due to pakistani nationality I am living and studying in Islamabad.Now it is time to annex constitutionaly.Recommend

  • Rahman Shahi
    Jan 7, 2016 - 9:10PM

    GB is the only unique region of the world who got independence on his own and on a good faith decided to be with Pakistan. GB has no concern with Kashmir. The one who claim GB as a part of Kishmir should respond to a very simple question that if we were a part of Kashmir then where is our representation in the Kashmir legislative assembly???Recommend

  • Baltistani
    Jan 7, 2016 - 10:23PM

    Kashmir and India have nothing to do with Gilgit Baltistan. We have our own identity,culture and language as well. The point is that why Pakistan has not given us our basic constitutional rights (representation in NA, Senate, NFC etc.) although we liberated our region by own and affiliated with Pakistan willingly.But Pakistan is totally confused over GB during the last 68 years which is hard to understand. Why Pakistan is mixing us with Kashmir issue?Recommend

  • mirestan
    Jan 7, 2016 - 10:36PM

    Invite united Nation observers and worlds independent observers and carry out referendum and obey the wishes of the people. This is the right path.Recommend

  • Gurpreet Singh Sabharwal (USA)
    Jan 7, 2016 - 10:36PM

    The total population of the whole of Jammu & Kashmir (both India & Pakistan) is about 1% of the total population of the rest of India & Pakistan. Its about time we start thinking about the other 99% of our people by making the current LoC a permanent border and resolving this long festering issue. Once Kashmir becomes a non issue, I’m sure India Pakistan relations will flourish and the whole border between the two countries (not just along Kashmir) can be made irrelevant. Its time to give up enmity & become friends for the sake of our current & future generations. Recommend

  • Gurpreet Singh Sabharwal (USA)
    Jan 7, 2016 - 10:38PM

    @pakistani: GB is a part of the original disputed Jammu & Kashmir as it existed in 1947 during partition. Just by changing names, you can’t change its history or geography. Recommend

  • Gurpreet Singh Sabharwal (USA)
    Jan 7, 2016 - 10:40PM

    I’m surprised to see how many Pakistanis believe that Gilgit Baltistan is not a part of Kashmir. FYI, Gilgit Baltistan was a part of the original Jammu & Kashmir which is disputed territory. Recommend

  • Abdullah khan
    Jan 7, 2016 - 10:41PM

    For the development of Lahore and some other places of punjab and sindh , the establishment are ignoring not only the rights of poor and smaller provinces but also diverting from the ideology of Quid I Azam Pakistan ,quid said kashmir is Shah Rag of Pakistan Recommend

  • globalobserver
    Jan 7, 2016 - 10:44PM

    ““If we begin to absorb it so can India. It legitimises their absorption of the Valley,” she said.”

    The learned Ms. Siddiqqa should know better. The whole of pre-1947 Kashmir has already been “absorbed” into the Indian union since 1947 as per the Indian constitution. India has the legal papers of accession to the effect. In contrast, Pakistan has no locus standi in in Kashmir (G-B, northern areas and AJK) that it occupies. Recommend

  • aftab
    Jan 7, 2016 - 10:47PM

    China is telling us to do the right thing. We are not giving up our claim on occupied Kashmir by doing this!Recommend

  • globalobserver
    Jan 7, 2016 - 10:53PM

    Since Pakistan has been preaching right to self-determination to Kashmiris, why not Pak give independence to the portion of Kashmir it occupies (GB, northern areas, AJK) true independence as a sovereign nation and then let it then decide after a cooling period of 15 years to decide if the new “nation” wants to join Pakistan on its own accord?Recommend

  • hari
    Jan 7, 2016 - 10:57PM

    @Rahman Shahi:
    Seats for GB lay vacant in the assembly of Jammu and Kashmir.Recommend

  • Wizarat
    Jan 7, 2016 - 11:08PM

    The realities on the ground speaks volumes, why won’t Pakistani public be told the reality.
    Live with it.

    With leaders who believe in Mukh Mukha and keeping the masses ignorant/uneducated there are no other options, moreover it probably is in the interest of the current leaders, a lot of commission at stake?Recommend

  • Sandip
    Jan 7, 2016 - 11:11PM

    @Rahman Shahi: Not only do you have representation in the legislative assembly you also have representation in the Indian Parliament. Check out the facts.Recommend

  • aftab
    Jan 8, 2016 - 12:27AM

    GB is not part of Kashmir. Indeed the political parties of pakistan has done politics in GB on the basis of religion Islam. and relate it with the kashmir. People of GB dont want to include there region in kashmir cause. the CM GB MR Hafiz is a puppet of Islamabad and his family roots are Kashmiri . He dosenot need to relate the problem of GB whith Kashmir . People of GB dont give a dame to Kashmir issue which has only given pain in past. Recommend

  • Vicky
    Jan 8, 2016 - 1:46AM

    Pakistan keep insisting on referendum on Kashmir….if pak is so concerned about Kashmir then why don’t Pakistan first make referendum in pak occupied Kashmir and put pressure on indiaRecommend

  • Politically Incorrect
    Jan 8, 2016 - 1:52AM

    @aftab: Yes, you’ll be giving up the claim on Kashmir if you do this. You can’t have your cake & eat it too :) Recommend

  • Rex Minor
    Jan 8, 2016 - 2:27AM

    @Gurpreet Singh Sabharwal (USA):
    I’m surprised to see how many Pakistanis believe that Gilgit Baltistan is not a part of Kashmir

    The one who knows fully is the head of the Sharif family who originated from Kashmir!

    Rex Minor Recommend

  • PrasadDeccani
    Jan 8, 2016 - 2:46AM

    @Rahman Shahi:

    1) GB has representation in J&K assembly, on paper though. Similarly in Indian parliament.

    2) If you are not part of disputed J&K, why Pakistan wants you to participate in plebiscite?

    I am assuming here that you know why Pakistan hasn’t granted statehood to GB so far and, why Hurriayat leaders don’t want Pakistan to give statehood to GB.Recommend

  • syed & syed
    Jan 8, 2016 - 3:14AM

    @Shuaib First of all GB was never a part of Kashmir and was not ruled by Kashmiri rulers before partition. There are choices have a referendum in GB or make it part of AJK. or make GB an autonomous region giving status of a province. : Recommend

  • Gurpreet Singh Sabharwal (USA)
    Jan 8, 2016 - 3:47AM

    @Rafi: The problem with the ascension of Junagadh to Pakistan was that it went against the first principle of Cyril Radcliffe’s plan on which the partition took place. As per that principle, the princely state would have to be contiguous (sharing border) to the country which it was ascending to. Junagadh did not share a border with Pakistan but was surrounded by Indian territory from all sides & hence its ascension to Pakistan could not be allowed even if it were a majority Muslim princely state. The princely state of Jammu & Kashmir on the other hand, shared borders with both India & Pakistan and hence its ascension to India was legal. Recommend

  • observer
    Jan 8, 2016 - 4:46AM

    @Rafi:
    “why has kashmir been deprived of that right for 70 years now. For GOD’s sake why????”

    Why? Because Kashmir has been Hindu land for over 5000 years.Recommend

  • vinsin
    Jan 8, 2016 - 5:57AM

    @Rafi:
    No recognized plebiscite was held in Junagardh. “On 8 November, Bhutto sent a letter to Nilam Butch, Provincial Head of the Indian Government in Rajkot, requesting him to help to restore law and order in Junagadh to prevent bloodshed. Harvey Johnson took the message to Rajkot. The head of the Indian administration telephoned V. P. Menon in Delhi and read out the letter. Menon immediately rushed to see Jawaharlal Nehru and explained the situation. After consultation with Sardar Vallabh Bhai Patel, the home minister and other ministers, a formal order was drafted and a notification issued announcing the take-over of Junagadh at the request of its Chief Minister.” Pakistan failed to provide evidence of any land connection to Junagardh. Pakistan government never complained about it or filed any case for the same.
    No independent plebiscite ever happened in Junagardh. India never claimed Junagardh on that basis.Recommend

  • Sabir Shah
    Jan 8, 2016 - 8:10AM

    @JD:
    There can be an alternative and KPK can be avoided, geographically, in the CPEC but not GB.Recommend

  • IndianDude
    Jan 8, 2016 - 8:35AM

    Pakistan having isolated themselves in a strategic dead-end, have no other option than to take dictates of now a new brotherly chinese. Pakistan has lost any minute moral high ground they had on Kashmir issue. As the saying goes: “live by handout die by hand out”Recommend

  • Moni
    Jan 8, 2016 - 9:35AM

    Gilgiti people really love Pakistan and want to live as other common Pakistani citizens. Good move by Pakistan to completely integrate them into country.Recommend

  • Sid
    Jan 8, 2016 - 9:50AM

    Good plan. constitutionalize gilgit baltistan and Indian Kashmir article 357 will be removed to constitutionalize Kashmir valley. Everybody happy. Recommend

  • Raj - USA
    Jan 8, 2016 - 10:42AM

    Why Pakistanis are not able to say out openly what they feel and have deep in their hearts and minds?

    To get Gwadar post, China is selling out Pakistan. China that issues staples visas to Kashmiris in India held Kashmir and claims to be supporting Pakistan on its Kashmir stance wanting India held Kashmir to be annexed to Pakistan is asking Pakistan to change constitutional status of GB, knowing fully well that it will facilitate India to do the same in India held Kashmir and, in course of time, will leave no other way for Pakistan but to recognize India held area of Kashmir region as rightfully belonging to India. Earlier, China stood silently when Pakistan broke into two. China sees its own interest only and will not come to aid or assist Pakistan in any way if it threatens its own interests. Only the army establishment in Pakistan and political elites support China and have favorable view of China because they are the only ones that would benefit from giving away Pakistan and all its interests to China. All others, may be, with the exception or those who have their families serving Pakistan’s army or relatives of the political elites who stand to benefit, dislike if not hate China deep within their own hearts and minds. Pakistanis pretend to praise China for only one reason which is that China defeated India in a war and Pakistan was defeated repeatedly by India. It is a way of having some satisfaction that though it lost wars with India, but China has defeated India. This is also the only reason that China is preferred over USA though USA has given the most financial aid to Pakistan and compared to USA, China gave only pittance. But, all are keeping quiet though China is eliminating muslims and islam in China. They all fear the military establishment and also have to toe their party line. Can Pakistan trust China that it will stand by it when Pakistan needs? When China is forcing Pakistan to change its stance on Kashmir and recognize it as belonging to India, what will China do if or when China gets Gwadar port and huge areas along the CPEC corridor? Will Pakistanis, including its army, have any control over those areas and if at all China will allow them to enter those areas? After China takes over Gwadar and Baluchistan mines, what areas of Pakistan will be left out for Pakistanis?Recommend

  • Ektishaf
    Jan 8, 2016 - 11:33AM

    Chitral and GB have not been the part of Kashmir, but they have given taxes in form of Eagles, Horses etc. There are tax files in my home.

    You people never mentioned Chitral. Chitral is also part of GB.Recommend

  • Ektishaf
    Jan 8, 2016 - 11:35AM

    Chitral is also part of GB. They are not parts of kashmir but they have given taxes to kashmir in form of Horses, Eagles etc. There are files of taxes in my home. you never mentioned Chitral. Chitral is also part of GB. Not KPK. It is also have to solved during this constitutional status of GB. Without Chitral GB is incomplete. It will again raise an issue in future. So must be solved boldly.Recommend

  • Aamir Ali Rana
    Jan 8, 2016 - 1:00PM

    If pakistans has no guts at all to give constitutional rights to G-B then we have to make preparations for another revolution to liberate us as we did in 1st Nov after partition, for our own independence from kashmiri rulers with the support of British military officers and our very own people. If your argument is that GB was part of kashmir then whole subcontinent was part of Britain, then why don’t you give it back to UK on the basis that they were rulers of subcontinent. And another example is Bangladesh who secceded from pak, do not give us the reason to make that kind of move.
    It is better to act before, hope turns into animosity.Recommend

  • Karachiite
    Jan 8, 2016 - 2:34PM

    If the army intervenes, sets a clear definition of what is to happen to GB (form Provincial Assembly, have National Assembly, judiciary, civil service quota, give it provincial status and complete freedom to appoint its own leaders within the province) and have the public vote on it there will definitely be a huge landslide in Pakistan’s favor even if you conducted it under UN auspices. Pakistanis everywhere have a staunch sense of statehood. However what will actually happen is that Nawaz will try to do something, generate news, then the army will tell him to stop and make him realize how ridiculous his actions are then it will be yet another embarrassment to our nation and China will stick to its notion of waiting till a proper (non Zardari non Sharif) government comes into place and will then force India not to interfere in their matters and all India will be able to do is “raise their voice” like we have been doing past 73 years over Kashmir and their stance will also not be vindicated because they are also building dams against a world bank brokered water treaty between the two nations. Basically this news is useless.Recommend

  • Shahid Ali Khan
    Jan 8, 2016 - 3:29PM

    @PrasadDeccani

    What Rehman Said is Correct …. you do not known our history and we Belong to the Area and have Lived there For Almost 30 Years and you Tell us a Very Different Story About Our Home ….. Please go and Learn Something True ….. we have nothing to do with Kashmir …Recommend

  • Ahmad
    Jan 8, 2016 - 5:27PM

    I am a Kashmiri and a Pakistani, and I think there are enough people suffering because of this issue. Pakistan as a country should not be emotionally tied to any one region and improve ties with their neighbors. There are Muslim communities within Pakistan which are marginalized, so it’s not like ‘because they’re Muslim they can only be happy with us’.

    Moreover, Kashmiris want to be ‘independent’, that is their true calling.

    Hope everyone wakes up.Recommend

  • Rafi
    Jan 8, 2016 - 7:02PM

    @observer:
    Why? Because Kashmir has been Hindu land for over 5000 years.
    what is Hindu land by the way, or even Islamic land. The Kashmir issue is not one of Hindu versus Muslim. It is the struggle against occupation and oppression of the Kashmiri people by Indian Government. Similarly what Indians did against British ruleRecommend

  • Rafi
    Jan 8, 2016 - 7:30PM

    @Gurpreet Singh Sabharwal (USA):
    Junagadh did not share a border with Pakistan
    There was no such condition in Radcliffe’s award of 1947, and what about Bangladesh. However Radcliffe’s award was actually an unjust, incomprehensible and even perverse award. This perfidious award paved the way for India’s military intervention in Kashmir Read Aalstair Lamb’s book, ‘Kashmir, a disputed legacy’Recommend

  • Rafi
    Jan 8, 2016 - 7:52PM

    @vinsin:
    Interesting story(an Indian version) but actual history is differentRecommend

  • Arijit Sharma
    Jan 8, 2016 - 10:53PM

    The China story is over. There are no more markets anywhere. The Chinese are over extending themselves, much like the Ottoman Empire. Sorry Pakistani friends.Recommend

  • Kesav
    Jan 9, 2016 - 1:06AM

    @Rafi

    The reason Junagarh was not allowed merger with Pakistan was because it was not a border state like Baluchistan..Kashmir,on the other hand is a border state.The Pakistanis attacked and occupied part of it.At that time King Hari Singh signed the state’s accession with India.Had Pakistan not attacked Kashmir things may have been different.Recommend

  • Poakanath Mistri
    Jan 9, 2016 - 2:22AM

    @voice of Gilgit:
    Any move by the Government of Pakistan to change the status of GB will be considered material breach of IWT by India thus granting India the right to unilaterally abrogate , walk out of this treaty which can be very detrimental for the health of Pakistani economy. Since whole state of 47 J&K is in dispute, legal options for Pakistan are very limited but to settle this issue before any foreign investment etc can be sanctioned by the state of Pakistan.Recommend

  • oz indian
    Jan 9, 2016 - 5:09AM

    @Rafi: This struggle was proved fake on the day when Kashmiri pundits were butchered and thrown out of the Kashmir.
    Now people of Kashmir wont get any sympathy from anywhere from the world.

    Now this is only Islamic struggle not Kashmiri struggle. Recommend

  • observer
    Jan 9, 2016 - 5:38AM

    @Raj – USA:
    Your posts are informative but very difficult to read when they are so long and without paragraphs. Recommend

  • Raj - USA
    Jan 9, 2016 - 7:05AM

    @observer:
    Thanks for your comments. Will try to take care of this in the future.Recommend

  • delhuss
    Jan 9, 2016 - 6:16PM

    We should forter closer ties with the emerging superpowers of China and India. And you know why ? Because there are no Zionists or Zionistas in China or India, as there are in Britain and the U.S. Brirain is a vassal state of the U.S. and the U.S. is dominated by supporters of the Zionist state.Recommend

  • kkm
    Jan 9, 2016 - 9:56PM

    Its nice to see chines trucks are entering Pakistan it means by large that Pakistan has given land to china to do their business its just a highway linked to china …….India must end Kashmir special status as pakistan & chines kashmir is no longer a dispute so indian kashmir is also a not disputed …..Recommend

  • kkm
    Jan 9, 2016 - 10:12PM

    @mirestan:
    Look already India is become UN itself …..had u done referendum before demanding pakistan =====NO so what are u talking …. Recommend

  • brar
    Jan 10, 2016 - 6:47AM

    @Abdullah khan: And Hassan Nissar says that Pakistan is breathing for so many years with a slit shah rag.Recommend

  • PURKISTANI balti
    Jan 12, 2016 - 2:14PM

    @Sandip:
    GB would have seat in asassembly for Kargil & Daras. LADDAKH would have a choice to go to China or IndiaRecommend

  • SAK
    Jan 12, 2016 - 3:23PM

    @ Indians
    Focus in your own country and go and build some toilets for your people.
    Let other People Progress. This region has the hard weather and Less resources why you indians are making stories and Claiming ……. At least Known the region history first …….Anyone who has visited this region might known how harsh the weather is in winters and when there is an opportunity for these people we must Appreciate as these are the victims since 1947 due to the issue of Kashmir…….think from a Human Perspective not from an enemy end. Recommend

  • safdar
    Jan 13, 2016 - 3:43PM

    @Gurpreet Singh Sabharwal (USA):
    Hey! Singh, what a stupid you are, We Gilgit Baltistani are part of Pakistan, fifth province of PK not JK & AJK. take care for such a comment.Recommend

  • safdar
    Jan 13, 2016 - 3:48PM

    @Rahman Shahi:
    I really appreciated, keep it up. We Gilgit Baltistani have same thought.Recommend

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