Whisky, clubs, music: Karachi's nightlife behind closed doors

By AFP
Published: September 11, 2015
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KARACHI: Karachi, Pakistan’s biggest and most diverse city, was once home to a famous nightclub scene where alcohol flowed freely and luminaries from the world of jazz played to packed crowds eager for a taste of Western culture.

Today, a new generation is seeking to revive the partying traditions of their parents and grandparents — albeit behind closed doors.

At a luxury hotel in the metropolis of 20 million — better known for bitter political acrimony, gang violence and bloody turf wars — it is after midnight and the private party has just started.

In a room decorated with chandeliers, several hundred guests are letting their hair down. The music is loud and the bar is busy.

A young female DJ, tanned and tattooed, is in control of the beats. Men dressed in suits and ties chain smoke as they listen to the electro-funk of Daft Punk, as women in slinky dresses strut across the dance floor.

The partygoers are from a generation that tasted the freedom of a foreign university and overseas travel before returning home to Pakistan.

The party was not advertised — and from the street you would never know it was happening — to avoid the attention of suicide bombers and extremist clerics.

Before the creeping religious radicalisation from the late 1970s that fundamentally altered the country, Pakistan’s nightlife was legendary.

The golden-era began in the 1950s and rolled on until prohibition in 1977, which was followed by a slew of extremist policies that drastically altered society.

Alcohol flowed freely in downtown bars and American jazz musicians Dizzie Gillespie and Duke Ellington played to huge crowds.

Clubs such as Playboy, Excelsior, Oasis, Samar, Club 007 all competed to be the place to be seen by Karachi’s hip young crowd.

“We used to have a good nightlife with bands, drinks and dancing but it’s gone,” recalls Imtiaz Moghal, the manager of the Metropole Hotel, once one of Karachi’s hottest nightspots, but which now lies semi-derelict as it awaits renovation.

“It is a haunted house,” he said as he wandered through the crumbling remnants of the once-grand hotel.

Gesturing at the carpark, he said: “That used to be a club and a disco. It hurts to think about it now.”

In Karachi’s heyday, politicians, young people, belly dancers, foreign diplomats, the cabin crew of foreign airlines and musicians from touring Southeast Asia orchestras were all swept up together in the melee of the city’s nightlife.

“The order of music was that you would warm up and then play some more popular songs, and (then) you played the louder music… towards the end of the evening you wind down because people had romantic intentions,” recalls former bandmember Leon Menezes.

From 1970 to 1975, sporting  long hair and oversized sunglasses, Menezes’ band The In Crowd was one of Karachi’s most popular.

The group played at the 1972 inauguration of president Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, father of Pakistan’s first female prime minister Benazir Bhutto.

The elder Bhutto was a regular at many of Karachi’s nightspots and was known to enjoy his whisky.

Menezes, now a teacher at a Karachi business school, recalled the day of the inauguration as an “incredible piece of history”.

“In the afternoon we were walking into his house to set up and there was Mr Bhutto… I was carrying an amplifier and a guitar in one hand. And I said, ‘Good afternoon, sir’. And he said, ‘Good afternoon’. I said, ‘Sir, will there be dancing?’ He said, ‘I don’t know but (if there is) please don’t hide yourself.'”

Five years later, Bhutto caved in to pressure from increasingly influential Islamists and banned alcohol, before being overthrown and ultimately hanged by the military government of Islamist general Zia ul-Haq.

“That completely changed the hotel industry in all of Pakistan,” said Happy Minwalla, owner of Metropole Hotel. “Karachi was all about entertainment, about fun, about people doing things. Sadly the situation has changed.”

Prohibition was the death knell for the clubs, but it did not eradicate the thirst for a nightlife.

Today, most parties happen behind the closed doors and high walls of private homes. “Wine shops”, often run by Christians, sell alcohol to locals, while bootleggers deliver high-end liquor to the doors of the wealthy.

Pilot Akeel Akhtar turns his home into a club twice a month for a select group of guests with Pink Floyd, the Rolling Stones and modern hits blaring out.

“This is a private place, we don’t put (it) on any social media, Facebook, we don’t advertise it at all. It is just between friends,” he explains, as he pulls out his electric guitar to the delight of his guests.

“We do not have pubs (in Pakistan), and this place is the closest to it,” said Nida, as she sways to the music in the early hours.

“We end the evening with friends on the beach. Will you come with us?”

 

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Reader Comments (63)

  • bilal
    Sep 11, 2015 - 11:40AM

    I remember attending a similar party in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. I was a guest of a guest. High end liquor, no restrictions. The suave environment really bought out a side of me which I thirst for now. Hoping to attend some party like this in Lahore.Recommend

  • Capt C M Khan
    Sep 11, 2015 - 1:53PM

    I remember attending a similar party in Kuwait in 1994 after the iraqi Invasion. Recommend

  • shahid
    Sep 11, 2015 - 2:03PM

    Why hide run and go underground to have a bit of entertainment ?? why dont you all go and spit on grave of this idiot who caved in to pressure from bearded devilsand broght islam to my country by making friday a holiday and banned alcohol.. so, then we became muslims, as friday was now a holiday. What a doek this man was whom we call leader.. I was working on one of his wife Nusrat’s project then, owned by her, Happy Minwalla, & Rafi Muneer of Hyesons; still the structure is standing as a ghost of Bhutto’s so called Islam, opposite PC; I want my Pakistan back as was before this fraud man made islam come back into it, by friday as holiday and banned everything what a free world wants, free will, free speech and free actions; Recommend

  • Bilal Hussain
    Sep 11, 2015 - 3:02PM

    Cultural vandalism, I call it. Bad stuff doesn’t last longer; if it does, its sustenance is always at stakeRecommend

  • Karachiwala
    Sep 11, 2015 - 3:10PM

    Add me in the party as well.Recommend

  • Darwaish
    Sep 11, 2015 - 3:40PM

    In Islamabad such parties are also arranged but very selective and close friends are invited. Mostly high ups and people of good financial status can go there. On other hand middle class youngsters have to arrange whisky with a lot of difficulty. If caught, they have to bribe the police and if escaped they have to find a corner far off from people eyes to enjoy. Recommend

  • Sadaf
    Sep 11, 2015 - 3:51PM

    I am speechless.. How can you justify drinking and clubbing?? What place do these things have in a muslim society?Recommend

  • Jude Allen
    Sep 11, 2015 - 4:05PM

    @Sadaf: Better to continue to remain speechless. If you are holy, sit home and pray, Don’t judge others because no one gave you that right. Keep your views to yourself. If people want to have fun let them. If you are bored, take a trip to Lyari and try and convince some of the hard core criminals about your perceived values and lets see how that ends up. But please dont talk about people who have a life and are living ti up rather than killing people on the streets. Cheers :) Recommend

  • OAB
    Sep 11, 2015 - 4:14PM

    Sorry may be i am a Neanderthal, but why glorify such things and be proud of such behaviors? I am against Conservative extremists but i am equally against Liberal extremists also whom you are glorifying here. Better take the middle road and stay mentally healthy. Peace.Recommend

  • Mohammed Rizvi
    Sep 11, 2015 - 4:43PM

    A “Muslim society”? Who are you kidding?

    Please.. this country can not boast about being an Islamic republic.

    First of all, there’s no place for extremist values in this region – most of us would like to live peacefully n let others do what they wish. Positive educational programmes and positive advertising, positive values and a Pakistani culture should be promoted by all means.

    At the same time Islamic education in supervised schools should be promoted. The purity of the faith ought to proliferate throughout the society via peaceful means. Not by putting a gun to everyone’s heads n asking them to bend over in the name of some twisted radical ideology. This is a free country, legal intimidation will make matters worse. And the brand of religion being instilled into kids these days, the Saudi Wahabbi culture, violent methods as part of an otherwise ethical faith, is an offer I and many will refuse. Pakistan is secular in its nature. Open your eyes. Adapt. Move on from the 70s and 80s.

    Quit blaming Bhutto (unfair, how a great leader is disrespected nowadays) and Zia and even the Saudi Royal clowns, if anything needs to change in this country, it is our attitude towards each other. Peace out.Recommend

  • IBN E ASHFAQUE
    Sep 11, 2015 - 4:51PM

    Alcohol is the mother of all evils. It is not permissible by Islam and Pakistan was created so that muslims can live their life as per Islam. Such behavior can never be permissible in Pakistan. Recommend

  • Asim
    Sep 11, 2015 - 4:57PM

    Can we bring back old karachi, all about entertainment, fun, feel of freedom, alive.Recommend

  • AnB
    Sep 11, 2015 - 5:07PM

    I met a guy here in Australia, who after getting a bit acquainted described with happiness, how cool Karachi was when he visited that place in late 60’s. I imagined in my head how could and would that be?? Your article has completed my picture.

    Bring back the partyRecommend

  • hasnain
    Sep 11, 2015 - 5:51PM

    Well whisky clubs etc are not for Muslims nd people who feel proud in doing this here must think nd may be this is the reason of the situation in which karachi is today Allah launches his tormet when sins come high Recommend

  • Chillax
    Sep 11, 2015 - 6:00PM

    It is a friday evening and I am chilling with a nice cold beer and checking on the news. After the first bottle, I will hit Clash of Kings for a couple of hours and another bottle of liquid gold. Aaah, this is life !Recommend

  • Mazhar
    Sep 11, 2015 - 6:31PM

    Things which are prohibited in clear terms must not be longed for. This life is nothing but a test of how we use our free will. The more we deviate from the straight path the more we accumulate garbage.Recommend

  • Junaid
    Sep 11, 2015 - 7:30PM

    @Jude Allen:
    I think you should keep your activities to yourself as your name suggests that you are a non muslim.Go and have a good time. Drink whisky and make someone to take advantage of you. Alchohol is prohibited in our religion and Pakistan is a muslim country. Gen Zia Ul Haq was the only one who take that crucial step by restricting these unethical activities and a true muslim will always acknowledge that. There’s nobody judging anyone here. So enjoy yourself by taking another shot :)Recommend

  • Saeed
    Sep 11, 2015 - 9:01PM

    Bring back my old Pakistan indeed. Well thats not the Pakistan of the majority. Go and do this in the open if you dare and see what welcome you get. Fact is these sorts of things are always going on in the underground and the gutter is exactly where they belong. It’s the old saying about polishing a turd- just because folks have money they think they have the higher opinions. The article author betrays his true feelings using the same tricks ad employed by Western media to denigrate Islamic values with careful use of negative wording, whilst painting those who engage in this decadent behaviour as sophisticated, urbane. You would do well to remind yourself what Allah and His Messenger said about alcohol. Recommend

  • Ali
    Sep 11, 2015 - 9:25PM

    Entire theme tends to give negative vibe. Wish my children and others stay away from such places. Plus i am no mullah so relax before panicing.Recommend

  • Azam
    Sep 11, 2015 - 9:32PM

    DisgustingRecommend

  • shabbir
    Sep 11, 2015 - 9:48PM

    @OAB: I think there is nothing extreme in enjoying a nightlife. We don’t hurt anyone unlike religious extremists. We won’t bomb masjids, won’t stop anyone who is praying 5 times a day and won’t force anyone to join us. This is purely someones personal deed.

    You can’t justify the term “liberal extremists”.Recommend

  • Pakistani
    Sep 11, 2015 - 9:58PM

    @jude Allen, Pakistan was formed in the name of islam, so that should kill all debate. Period. what happened between 50s and 70s was not why Pakistan was established. Secondly if you and minority you belong too (not in terms of religion but lust for such activities) you should go somewhere else and don’t try and shut people who don’t want such activities in their neighbourhood or surroundings and which represent majority. Alcohol sell to Muslims is prohibited as per law and if you have real “education” you should have learnt to respect law of the land which you happily do when you’re abroad (don’t wanna show mirror from that side any further).

    Lastly, tribune I think need to review their policy and stop such publications that hurt sentiments of majority of the population who wants to live with peace of mind that their family is safe from the filth of such activities.Recommend

  • shabbir
    Sep 11, 2015 - 10:01PM

    Seems many readers are desperate to see nightlife in Karachi! and I am one them.
    We can make it happen! all we need is to gather our interested friends, rest can be managed very easily.
    Partially I do now but want to feel the essence and ambiance of nightlife. Recommend

  • karachiite
    Sep 11, 2015 - 10:43PM

    To all the people complaining about Pakistan being a Muslim homeland and these being non-Muslim values, I would like to remind you that Pakistan was formed not by you, you were not the ones whi gave sacrifices to Pakistan, you were not the one who built up Pakistan, ot was our ancestors, Jinnah and the Democratic Muslim League whose efforts made Pakistan a reality, and when they said that Pakistan is to be a secular state, it shall be so, and when they said that the other’s religion shall not affect us, it shall be so, too. Stop showing your authority over a country whose foundation has already been laid by those who gave unthinkable sacrifices for our motherland. Nobody has the authority to change the foundations and ideology of Pakistan when already everything had been laid down by Quaid.Recommend

  • Hassan
    Sep 11, 2015 - 10:46PM

    I don’t understand what is so great about alcohol. Is it the loss of cognitive ability, the bar fights, drunk driving resulting in death/injury to you and possibly other innocent people, alcoholism, liver failure or the hangovers? What is so cool about making yourself dumber on purpose? And if you do it then at least have the shame to not promote it and possibly destroy someone else’s life.Recommend

  • Hasnain
    Sep 11, 2015 - 11:13PM

    @karachiite point is not that we are restricting minorities minorities have their rights nd we pakistanis respect them but the point is its prohibited in our religion nd these type of activities should be banned and strict punishments should be given Recommend

  • S O
    Sep 11, 2015 - 11:29PM

    Why glorify it?Recommend

  • Hassan
    Sep 11, 2015 - 11:42PM

    Unfortunately there is parallel law system in out country one for the poor & other for the elites if private night clubs exist in this metropolis than one should not shocked after reading this news. Its the tragedy of our society that if an MPA sentenced to jail he enjoys A class facilities but if a person who is only an accused (not a convict) faces third class torture in jail and in many cases the accused got acquittal from the courts. Similarly our law enforcing agencies arrest a drug dealer or a illegal weapon dealer in Karachi but from where it reaches in the city or who are producers or suppliers are invisible. The question arises here is when rangers is busy in operation in Karachi and many intelligence agencies are working in the city than how these private night clubs are running, sorry to say that there would be some influentials behind these activities and they are obviously untouchables. In our country democracy means by the elite for the elite and to the elite. Recommend

  • Kamran Paracha
    Sep 12, 2015 - 12:00AM

    Your criteria of “Golden Era” is very flawed. Life is not a Hollywood movie :) Recommend

  • Sep 12, 2015 - 12:28AM

    @karachiite:

    Jinnah said Sharia should be basis of all law making in Pakistan and it should be part of the Constitution. Prohibition of Alcohol is inline with what Jinnah said.Recommend

  • Hareem
    Sep 12, 2015 - 1:21AM

    OMG everybody is missing the fun of drinking, drugs & clubbing? Sad? isn’t it?

    Bunch of wannabes not comfortable in your own skin! Trash your own lives behind closed doors! Lowlifes!Recommend

  • Mahira
    Sep 12, 2015 - 1:27AM

    Gosh! Instead of wishing to have the bars / dance clubs back in the country, one should first pray for a Peaceful and successful Pakistan.
    And no wonder we’re tasting the wrath of our own actions..May Allah have mercy on us..Ameen. Recommend

  • Tina
    Sep 12, 2015 - 2:19AM

    Life is unpredictable…..u don’t know when u will die…..and u r curious about night clubs and taking alcohol. Before wasting money on such things…..why don’t our proud upper class think about poors of our society. Most Western countries are welfare state so nightclubs suit them not countries like Pakistan.Recommend

  • Kush Kamal
    Sep 12, 2015 - 4:04AM

    What a surprise the religious conservatives are defining Pakistan as a Muslim country fail to eplain the basic ills that plague our society. The constant corruption that travels through every plane of our life is that not anti-Islamic?The huge sums of funds that are diverted by corrupt political leaders why is that not anti-Islamic. The way we treat minorites and burn down churches with NO PROOF of blasphemy which can’t that be verified as anti-Islamic but then when domestic abuse against women where are these *religious crusaders *but yet they want to judge others? Recommend

  • Kush Kamal
    Sep 12, 2015 - 4:05AM

    What a surprise the religious conservatives are defining Pakistan as a Muslim country fail to eplain the basic ills that plague our society. The constant corruption that travels through every plane of our life is that not anti-Islamic?The huge sums of funds that are diverted by corrupt political leaders why is that not anti-Islamic. The way we treat minorites and burn down churches with NO PROOF of blasphemy which can’t that be verified as anti-Islamic but then when domestic abuse against women where are these *religious crusaders *but yet they want to judge others? Recommend

  • hari
    Sep 12, 2015 - 7:22AM

    So much for the two nation theory. Seems non Muslims are in majority still in Pak.Recommend

  • Qari Abdullah
    Sep 12, 2015 - 8:12AM

    Let us emulate the Quad. Think he loved Johnnie Walker in whiskey . Also Cuban cigars were his favourite. Party and clubbing is just a way of releasing stress and tensions and rejuvenating . Also let us not focus on the negatives of alcohol. It has medicinal properties if consumed within limits. It is only when limits are exceeded that causes problems. Karachi once had strip clubs and bars and eating was allowed in public in Ramadan buy behind curtains in restaurants. It was a tolerant society with no drugs and gun culture. We went to our mosques and churches worked hard and honestly and had coffee in the evening at the famous coffee houses .Shared news and reviews and gossips. We were free as the Quaid wanted .Recommend

  • Arshad
    Sep 12, 2015 - 9:24AM

    I can not compreend what good such feature articals can do for the society by promoting alchoism,belly dancing and loud music. Even the western society is sick of suh ills.Let me assure you those who have been committed actively in such gatherings in the past have hardy contributed for the betterment of Pakistan.Let us learn to respect the socil values of a country where we live and do not promote a culture which is not honoured and respected by a common citizen. Are we here just for merry making or the life has bigger objective.Every moment we spend and every action we perform we are not answerable only to laws of land but to our creato also.Recommend

  • American
    Sep 12, 2015 - 10:03AM

    Such wannabes!! Watching too many American movies and getting influenced.Recommend

  • Arslan
    Sep 12, 2015 - 10:20AM

    Just wait and see how the end of the wrongdoers will be…Insha Allah. The words of Allah will be the highest and of these transgressors will be the lowest.. Insha Allah. Just like the students who enjoy and part and do not study or work hard before the exam their faces become pale on the exam day..just it will be more worst as you will not be able to go back and mend your behavior then…Wake up before that day when angel of death come unannounced.. Wake up o children of Adam ..Wake up…May Allah guide us all…Ameen. Recommend

  • MIB
    Sep 12, 2015 - 10:54AM

    how disgusting it is?
    Isn’t it??Recommend

  • intellectual.pseudo
    Sep 12, 2015 - 11:17AM

    Don’t glorify the ills of society. These ghettos exist in every society. Wannabees glorifying them. Inshaa Allah we will not have such ills exist freely in our society.Recommend

  • Hareem
    Sep 12, 2015 - 1:02PM

    For all those pointing to corruption, bombings, ill-treatment of minorities…. Etc etc

    Nobody is endorsing that either! Two wrongs don’t make a right! Plus Quaid’s personal life is not our business. His ideology and motives for making Pakistan are! Pakistan is for Muslims to lead an Islamic way of life with absolute tolerance for minorities.

    If having nightclubs is freedom, then I think there should be permission for loud Azaan in all countries Islamic or not Recommend

  • Jude Allen
    Sep 12, 2015 - 3:56PM

    @Pakistani:
    @Junaid:
    hahahahaha You guys cracked me up!! Glad my name make you feel so insecure. I would love to highlight some of the double standards your typical self-righteous lot – but, self-awareness is an awakening you will have to experience for yourself eventually. Meanwhile,….. Cheers! (before my beer gets too warm) Recommend

  • Jude Allen
    Sep 12, 2015 - 3:57PM

    @Chillax: Dude you gotta invite me too :) Recommend

  • Jude Allen
    Sep 12, 2015 - 4:00PM

    @karachiite:
    Well said my friend. :) Recommend

  • zafar islam
    Sep 12, 2015 - 5:27PM

    In 1970 there was underground key exchange club by super elite class.When Pakistan was created only one factory was there for wine etc.It is unfurcunate that almost seventy factories are producing.Under club increased manifold.This should nor be happened.Same is the caae of KSA,UAE etcRecommend

  • Ojeebjee
    Sep 12, 2015 - 7:38PM

    Live and let live. Work hard, be honest, mean well, spread education, love art, cook well, love travel, meet friends, pray well, thank the divine, sleep well and golly…drink and party as you wish as well. Pakistan is your land and so is the rest of the world.

    Coexist!Recommend

  • Aamir - Toronto
    Sep 12, 2015 - 7:57PM

    @shahid…….brother who are you trying to deceive here, you want to be a Muslim but at the same time you want to indulge in non-Islamic activities, come on !!!! Recommend

  • Syed Faisal
    Sep 12, 2015 - 8:01PM

    this is absolutely disgusting.Recommend

  • Muhammed Ali Abbasi
    Sep 13, 2015 - 12:01AM

    Dear All Muslim Readers, people such as Jude Allen are the main source of evil in our society, This is an Muslim country by its history , its constitution and its past & its present. Its illegal to consume , purchase or sale alcohol by the law and if reported to the responsible authorities severe action can be taken . The kufaar has always tried to blacken Islam. A newly converted Muslim said that I did not change my faith to continue doing these evils , these acts are of the kufaar. But remember safeguard your emaan , you will not be responsible for the act of others , but would be asked about your deeds and for your family’s. Allah SWT is enough for us Muslims and when He wills , powers such as the roman empire collapse or the British empire in Indo-Pak Subcontinent are bought to an end . Jude Allen be warned , Allah is the Almighty , He owns all the universe , no speck of land is invisible to him , To him everything is clear, He is swift in being Merciful but also punishes those who cross the limits.Recommend

  • simpleton
    Sep 13, 2015 - 1:39AM

    this sort of activity can never be really stopped only pushed underground regardless of the social and religious norms of the society. there will always be rebels challenging divine will (in the name of free will) and those submitting to it. this article highlights just that fact sprinkled with a bit of nostalgia about bygone “golden era” of open boozing and partying. Recommend

  • M
    Sep 13, 2015 - 3:27AM

    It’s ridiculous to think that people would condemn alcohol distribution when such is allowed for minorities even within a Muslim State. It’s not against the law! If you don’t like it. Don’t drink it. Don’t promote it within your household. Simple.

    Religion in personal. Don’t want someone coming in to your house and tell you how to practice your faith? Well don’t impose your self righteous opinions on anyone else either. Recommend

  • Nadeem
    Sep 13, 2015 - 4:54AM

    How pathetic that Pakistanis think clubbing and drinking is the way forward! It is so embarrassing watching our lot think that taken drugs and clubbing is cool! I saw a news article showing that all our “celebs” went to a magnum party! Yes a party to launch an ice cream! There they are out there skimply dressed and making out they have made it. Outside Pakistan they look like loosers.

    “A young female DJ, tanned and tattooed, is in control of the beats. Men dressed in suits and ties chain smoke as they listen to the electro-funk of Daft Punk, as women in slinky dresses strut across the dance floor.” – Would u attend these parties if ur mun, sister or wife was one of these women…

    In PK, health is an issue, we have highest number of diabetes, cancers, heart attacks. Instead of going for a healthy approach we want to enjoy activities that have no value. At least in the west people exercise, look slim. Recommend

  • Nadeem
    Sep 13, 2015 - 5:02AM

    Its a shame when our people think that drinking is the best way forward. This freedom of speach is taking things too far. When we try to be something which we are not it is embarasing!

    ” A young female DJ, tanned and tattooed, is in control of the beats. Men dressed in suits and ties chain smoke as they listen to the electro-funk of Daft Punk, as women in slinky dresses strut across the dance floor.”

    Tell me – would u allow you mum, wife, sister or daughter to be one of these women??Recommend

  • Nadeem
    Sep 13, 2015 - 5:06AM

    @Sadaf: Totally agree :-)

    Its a shame that our people think this is progression.Recommend

  • Observer
    Sep 14, 2015 - 2:45AM

    Musharrafization in ful swing, indeed!Recommend

  • binger
    Sep 14, 2015 - 4:15AM

    under the military rule, karachi never going to get back its glorious days.
    until then have fun in dubaiRecommend

  • Hashim Raza
    Sep 14, 2015 - 1:39PM

    @Sadaf said “How can you justify drinking and clubbing?? What place do these things have in a muslim society?”

    Answer: Underground
    @Jude AllenRecommend

  • Khan
    Oct 2, 2015 - 8:14AM

    @Mohammed Rizvi:
    If you forbid a man from drinking, then he will not drink to avoid punishment from government. It is not a genuine fear of God.

    How can you call for Islamic education in public schools, the promotion of morality, and then say Pakistan is a free and secular country? You clearly (and rightfully) distrust the Saudis, but the sort of non-extremist pro-Islam society you’re advocating is extremely fragile. It will grow ever more conservative and radical until it becomes the poorer mirror image of Saudi Arabia. The only way we can avoid being Saudi is to avoid introducing religion into government and education.

    we should be like Turkey where people are free to be Muslim, but government is secular. Turkish government does not oppress or promote Islam. Turks are more religious than Iranians, who have had religion shoved down their throat. When you introduce religion into government, it is very easy to abuse religion and use it as justification for crazy things like Hudood Laws. That alienates people. Recommend

  • Khan
    Oct 2, 2015 - 8:19AM

    To all the conservatives who are warning about the world of God: worry about your own fate. Not mine. If I want to drink, then I should be able to drink. Whether or not Islam is a part of my life should be my own decision. Stop trying to think for everyone else. It is not appreciated. Recommend

  • Oct 11, 2015 - 3:05PM

    I want to see a Pakistan that is democratic, gender equal, safe, tolerant, advanced, and entertaining. But I dont want to see nightclubs and alcohol. Recommend

  • rizwan
    Jan 10, 2016 - 12:15AM

    invite me thereRecommend

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