Illusion of victory: In the eyes of the media

Published: September 2, 2015
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Pakistani soldiers patrol Khem Karan, the Indian market town from where Indian troops hoped to launch their thrust on Kasur and further onto Lahore. PHOTO: ISPR / DESIGN: MOHSIN ALAM

Pakistani soldiers patrol Khem Karan, the Indian market town from where Indian troops hoped to launch their thrust on Kasur and further onto Lahore. PHOTO: ISPR / DESIGN: MOHSIN ALAM

ISLAMABAD: 

Most neutral historians agree that the 1965 India-Pakistan war ended in a stalemate, yet both countries today claim to have delivered a crushing defeat on the other side.

In the era before most South Asian newspapers could afford embedded reporting, media outlets in both countries relied mainly on official statements in their reporting on war. The way the media on both sides reported on the 1965 war itself and the events than followed made it possible for establishments of both countries to interpret conclusions of the war according to their own choice.

Archives of the Indian media kept by the media wing of the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), which itself was the only source of information for the Pakistani media, show that grossly exaggerated claims of military success were made by the Indian military and reported in India.

“Our valiant forces have set up a civil administration in Lahore after capturing the railway station, airport, Mughalpura, an ordinance factory …. Civilised attitude of our solders wins hearts of Lahoris,” reads headline of an Indian newspaper. “Lahore captured: Our forces are moving into Kasur,” was another headline, complete with many side stories to substantiate such claims. Indian forces never entered the city of Lahore.

The Pakistani side also employed different tools. Shortly before the war broke out, Radio Sada-e-Kashmir, set up as ‘revolutionary radio’, was reporting stories of ‘audacious attacks’ by Kashmiri separatists on the Indian military, some of which carried over to the mainstream Pakistani media. In its August 11, 1965 edition, Dawn ran the headline: “Patriots cut Srinagar-Jammu Road”.

Reporting a night raid, quoting Radio Sada-e-Kashmir, the paper said separatists also destroyed nine bridges on this main road that linked the summer capital Jammu with Srinagar and the Kashmir Vale. The paper also published a map showing various other important road links from across the 1948 ceasefire line supposedly under the control of the ‘revolutionary council’ that had been set up as a parallel government to the Indian administration in Kashmir.

In reality, Pakistan’s covert operation – codenamed ‘Gibraltar’ – did not achieve all the objectives, prompting another operation, named Grand Slam, to be launched on September 1, 1965. Pakistani Army conducted the second operation to capture Aknor, a town in Jammu, to sever communication supplies to Srinagar, something Sada-e-Kashmir had claimed already happened.

In this second major operation, both sides used regular forces and heavy war machinery including tanks. Pakistan claims that before their second operation, the freedom fighters on the Indian side of the ceasefire line were fighting against Indian forces. However, India claims Pakistan had entered more than 30,000 troops into the Indian side in the guise of locals.

Many historians say that Pakistan had launched Gibraltar with a strong belief that it would stir a mass uprising by local Kashmiris against Indian occupation. The expected results were not achieved, they say. However, in desperation to ease mounting pressure by Pakistani forces on the Kashmir front, India attacked Pakistan and crossed the international border on September 6 at three points, which marked official beginning of the 1965 war.

The war ended on September 22 as the result of the Tashkent accord, brokered by the Soviet Union and signed by President Ayub Khan and then Indian Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shashtri. Both sides agreed to withdraw to pre-August 1965 boundaries by February 25, 1966.

Both sides still claim that they gave a crushing blow inflicting heavy casualties to the other side and won the war. However, most independent war historians dispute claims of the two sides and say it was a draw and none of the two was ultimate winner in the battlefield.

Published in The Express Tribune, September 2nd, 2015.

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  • Another Indian
    Sep 2, 2015 - 7:13AM

    Stalemate? I don’t think so. How can army from land of pure lose to kafir Hindus? Pakistan won the war, in fact all the wars fought between India and Pakistan.Recommend

  • H Chaudhry
    Sep 2, 2015 - 7:40AM

    Great article! Pakistan did fight the war with great courage but its shame and wrong to glorify things that did not happen or ignore the things that happen like the Battle of Usal Utter and Pattong Nagar where a grave yard was made out of much advanced Pakistani Patton tank. Pakistan Army is better institute in Pakistan but we are glorifying them like angels that can do no bad and the result of this glorification is in front of us. Recommend

  • vinsin
    Sep 2, 2015 - 8:02AM

    From Indian side, operation Gibraltar was failed thus a victory

    It can only be argued whether it was a stalemate or India won. Operation Gibraltar was a failure and Pakistan failed to capture J&K.

    East Pakistan felt alienated with the whole exercise by Pakistani Army which let to call for autonomy. 1965 war started by Pakistan culminated in 1971.Recommend

  • wb
    Sep 2, 2015 - 8:40AM

    ““Our valiant forces have set up a civil administration in Lahore after capturing the railway station, airport, Mughalpura, an ordinance factory …. Civilised attitude of our solders wins hearts of Lahoris,” reads headline of an Indian newspaper. “Lahore captured: Our forces are moving into Kasur,” was another headline, complete with many side stories to substantiate such claims. Indian forces never entered the city of Lahore.”

    Which news paper? Could you please name the news paper with the clip? Or are you LYING?

    What is the harm in quoting the news paper when it is on record with the claim.Recommend

  • wb
    Sep 2, 2015 - 8:49AM

    Here is a challenge to Pakistanis. But first, let me make a few points.

    1) What is the definition of victory in war? How do you define any victory with regards to any single simple task in life? Victory is defined by the accomplishment of objectives. If you succeed in accomplishing your objective you’re a winner. If you fail, you’re a loser.

    2) What was the objective of Pakistan in 1965 war? To obtain Kashmir from India with the use of Mujahideen, regular troops and then inciting an Intifada in Kashmir.

    3) What was the objective of India in 1965 war? To defend Kashmir and repel the enemy army.

    4) Which country succeeded in completing their objectives? India or Pakistan? Errrr…it was India. Clearly Pakistan failed to get an inch of Kashmir in 1965.

    5) So who won the war? The country that completed its war objective: India.

    The problem here is 180 million Pakistanis are extremely weak in mathematics and logic. They cannot analyze any situation logically and I have proved that umpteen times with lucid arguments which not one single Pakistani has so far succeeded in defying.

    Is there one Pakistani out of 180 million who can challenge my arguments above and prove me wrong?

    Can you accept the challenge Mr. Irfan Ghauri?Recommend

  • Ghostrider
    Sep 2, 2015 - 9:13AM

    @Another Indian:
    According to your delusional mind Lahore is still in control of “civilized” invisible Indian forces i guess. Grow up bachey.Recommend

  • shahid
    Sep 2, 2015 - 9:22AM

    @Another Indian:
    Your demeanor states that nobody of your family died in that war.. Ask those who lost their loved ones; Then we will see who was the winner.. Actually, in war noboby wins, both are the losers; Recommend

  • Raj - USA
    Sep 2, 2015 - 9:38AM

    Why Pakistan attacked India in 1965?

    India badly lost to China in the 1962 war. China had superiority from the very start and knew it well. India was ill equipped and the Cossipore Gun and Shell factory in Kolkata was making buckets for carrying water and not gun shells. Nehru thought there is no need for India to make arms and its military was ill equipped and severely lacking in training. During this war, China asked Pakistan not to attack India because this may internationalize the war. Other countries may join the war and it would make it difficult for China. China wanted the war to be restricted to India and China only. Pakistan reluctantly kept quiet and lost the only chance it ever had to snatch Kashmir from India. The itch remained and Pakistan attacked India in 1965. However, in the three year period India had recovered morally and militarily to a good extent. What Pakistan thought could be an easy victory was fiercely fought by both sides. For India, it is a victory because India gave a good fight and did not lose territory even after being severely beaten by China just recently then. For Pakistan, it gave a good fight to a much larger country, India, though it cannot get any territory from India. It could be argued that this 1965 war led to 1971. However, China did not come to help out Pakistan in 1971. In fact, it was only because of China that Pakistan lost the only opportunity to snatch Kashmir from India, but China never came to Pakistan’s aid. Not in 1971 and not in Kargil.Recommend

  • PakSal
    Sep 2, 2015 - 9:39AM

    @Another Indian:
    Really, and Modi, being a cunning mass murderer terrorist of 2000 souls in Gujarat only, has organised the 65 war carnival. Please let him know you know now who won the war and the whole truth. Despite 4.5 times bigger land wise than Pakistan and 10 times population wise, you lost the war … don’t try now, doesn’t look good for a ‘superpower’ country.Recommend

  • Hassan
    Sep 2, 2015 - 10:14AM

    @Another Indian: Apart from winning and losing the moment of shame for India is being in a state of War with a country which is 1/4th of its size and still able to give befitted reply to India, and India is still struggling to counter this small yet powerful country, if it is not powerful then u r weak, either of the statement is true and if so, please accept a facepalm from across the boarder with Love.Recommend

  • Sep 2, 2015 - 10:17AM

    @PakSal Pakistan Awam is always made fool by Army. Their tall claim that that they have won the war put Pakistan at the brink of disaster. In 1971 they lost not only the war but a new country was born.Till date the Pak Army have not accepted the brutality committed by them. See where is Pakistan standing now? It seems Pak Army have not learnt lesson from previous mistakes. I will not be surprised if we see more Bangladesh in near future.Recommend

  • Dinesh
    Sep 2, 2015 - 10:17AM

    I think it was the victory of the People of Kashmir…Recommend

  • Gurion
    Sep 2, 2015 - 10:20AM

    @PakSal:
    >Modi, being a cunning mass murderer terrorist of 2000 souls in Gujarat

    I’m sick of seeing this figure quoted by Pakistanis everywhere. Any references?Recommend

  • Milind
    Sep 2, 2015 - 10:24AM

    Most Pakistanis continue to focus on their military achievements (or failures).. when they should focus on failure or lack of statesmanship exhibited by their leadership… The Friday Times once had a letter/writeup which mentioned that the Shah of Iran had suggested Pakistan team up with India during the Indo-China 1962 war. Had this happened the relationships would have smoothened, Kashmir would have been resolved (even our hardliner PM Lal Bahadur Shastri is supposed to have conceded that had Pakistan done that, it would have been difficult to resolve Kashmir issue to Pakistani satisfaction).
    But alas..

    ET Mods – Hopefully you’ll publish this.. Last time I had put this across in another article, but was trashed.Recommend

  • Roger
    Sep 2, 2015 - 10:24AM

    @Another Indian:
    The basic question pakistan has to answer is “What is victory ?” Did Pakistan gain an square inch of land after the war finished ?
    Pakistan military accepts that their army regulars crossed over to J&K there by starting the war. But after the end of the war J&K is still with India. Now if that isn’t victory for India then what is victory ?Recommend

  • Raj - USA
    Sep 2, 2015 - 10:29AM

    @PakSal:
    Why is it difficult for Pakistanis to realize that Modi is liked, respected and adored in all muslim countries throught the world with the sole exception of Pakistan. Bangladesh and UAE allow Modi to insult and issue threats to Pakistan from their soil. Afghanistan and Iran are friendlier more to India and Modi than Pakistan. India has defense pacts and strategic agreements with more muslim countries than Pakistan. In fact, Modi is liked more than Manmohan Singh in all muslim countries with the sole exception of Pakistan. Modi will soon be visiting Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Sushma Swaraj just had a very successful visit to Egypt. Pakistan is not liked in any muslim country throughout the world. Read these reports that were published in ET itself:

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/934302/na-revelations-257433-pakistanis-deported-since-2012/

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/948053/iran-hands-over-162-deportees-to-pakistan/

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/949204/for-nations-security-stability-libyas-official-govt-bans-entry-of-pakistanis/

    There are many more like this. Can you find any recent such report on India?Recommend

  • Oxy Moron
    Sep 2, 2015 - 10:38AM

    @wb: “The problem here is 180 million Pakistanis are extremely weak in mathematics and logic. They cannot analyze any situation logically and I have proved that umpteen times with lucid arguments which not one single Pakistani has so far succeeded in defying.”

    Mate, I disagree completely that Pakistanis are weak in logic. If anything, they are much better at logic than Indians, in my opinion.

    It isn’t any shortage of logic – instead, just like cognitive dissonance, there is a thing like dissociative cognizance, or for Orwell fans like me, doublethink.

    Come to think of it, 1984 answered so many of my similar questions. I highly recommend it, if you haven’t sampled it already.Recommend

  • Shakti
    Sep 2, 2015 - 10:45AM

    So much for an “indigenous” Kashmiri uprising !Recommend

  • verdict
    Sep 2, 2015 - 10:55AM

    Hate knows no bounds. Every time we spew hate, a few minutes of your life just died. We all need perspective here. We don’t realize what we have in our life without a war. No one’s happy now, do you think a silly argument of who won in 1965 is worth the heartache.

    Please consider and desist from hating.Recommend

  • OxyMoron
    Sep 2, 2015 - 11:09AM

    @wb: OK, after reading Hassan’s comment, am beginning to see your point somewhat.

    Darn it, just when I thought I had begun to have a handle on this…Recommend

  • Col. Purohit
    Sep 2, 2015 - 11:16AM

    Why India lost the war:

    1- Who ran to the UN and international community asking to stop the war? Was it Pakistan? No. It was India.

    2- Who had 3-5 times greater military power (men as well as fire power) ? Yes it was India. Now match the performance.

    3- Didn’t Pakistan Navy contain Indian Navy after successful Op. Dawarka in which the former went into the latter’s waters… reached their bases… destroyed them and returned safe & sound. After that, India did not attempt a single attack (not even to avenge) and their fleet remained close to harbor mostly throughout the war.

    4- Read the history of PAF vs IAF in 1965 yourselves! It’s way too obvious.

    People like the author of this so-called article write false stuff only to try to appear un-biased. Not gonna help. Truth funds its ways, always.Recommend

  • Abdul
    Sep 2, 2015 - 11:38AM

    Its a shame that you have printed this article which reflects that small faction’s propaganda that no body won the war or Pakistan lost it.

    We as commoner know that it was a victory for Pakistan which many indian generals also admitted in front of media. No matter how the media tries to brainwash our youth it is very clear to the general populace that 1965 was a victory for Pakistan and Pakistan LEAs.

    The souls of our martyrs would be cursing you at this very moment. I wish that a SON from your family also goes into the Army only then you would be able to deflect from this negative mindset.Recommend

  • Hassan
    Sep 2, 2015 - 11:41AM

    @Raj – USA: It was India who attacked Pakistan, rest of ur debate is pointless when u open up ur argument with a delusion. Recommend

  • Musa
    Sep 2, 2015 - 11:48AM

    AND YET INDIA CROSSED THE BORDER IN 3 PLACES ON 6TH SEPTEMBER AND UNTIL 22nd SEPTEMBER COULDN’T CAPTURE LAHORE. their main aim. How is that for a “stalemate”. a country 5 times smaller defending itself for 22 days Recommend

  • Sep 2, 2015 - 11:50AM

    Just go to google and type there Indo-Pakistan War 1965 and click on images. And find one newspaper cutting of an Australian newspaper which published in Sep 1965. You will find your answer who won the war. Recommend

  • A Peshawary
    Sep 2, 2015 - 12:02PM

    It sickening to read point scoring comments on both sides wherein Humanity has totally lost its value.

    A PeshawaryRecommend

  • From Karachi
    Sep 2, 2015 - 12:34PM

    Such a shame. People from both countries fighting hard to make a judgmental statement about winning. NOBODY wins the war. It was a loss of humanity from both the ends. I wish this never get repeated.Recommend

  • Mayank
    Sep 2, 2015 - 12:38PM

    @Musa…you don’t need to face 4 times bigger India, when our 13000 soldiers made 93000 soldiers surrendered in battlefield,,,,,and before ranting please go to Wikipedia and other authentic resources to know the realityRecommend

  • Roshan
    Sep 2, 2015 - 12:44PM

    Hahaha please go to Wikipedia and check who lost more land and life of soldiersRecommend

  • aamir aqil
    Sep 2, 2015 - 1:06PM

    The War ended on September 23, not on September 22 as mentioned in the article. It was a cease fire . The Tashkand decleration was signed on January 10, brokered by Sovet Union, signed by F M Ayub Khan than presesident of Pakistan and Lal Bhadur Shasteri the tyhan prime minister of India.
    With out iota of doubt Pakistan dint achieve its goal of capturing any stratigic town or city of Kashmir, but still till date we celebrate September 6, as a defence of Pakistan day. IN reality the September 23 must be celebrated as a day of pesce as on this day war ended and so the misiries of the humanity on both sides of the great divide.Recommend

  • Muhammad Ahmad
    Sep 2, 2015 - 1:38PM

    It all depends on how interpret victory and defeat. The widely held view is that it was India that attacked Pakistan and not the other way around, because really, why would we when they’ve always had a larger army and the lion’s share of equipment left behind by the British? In the case of a massively outnumbered defense force, it would have to be said that the Indian army did not meet its objectives, i.e breakfast, lunch and dinner in different parts of Pakistan. The fact that it was ultimately a stalemate is a failure on the part of the Indian army.

    Now, 1971, that was a defeat for us. A resounding one at that. Recommend

  • Guest
    Sep 2, 2015 - 2:05PM

    @Hassan, Cyril Almeida wrote an article in ‘DAWN’ on last Sunday about 1965 war. That article had quotes from a book by a Pakistani general. I suggest you read the article to open your eyes.Recommend

  • Shakil Ahmed Khan
    Sep 2, 2015 - 2:41PM

    Pakistan lost 1971 and everyone know the result Bangladesh on ground!
    1965 Pakistan made gains in Kashmir, Indian made some gains on other fronts down the country. We would have known the results on the ground if there was no political accord in Tashkant to withdraw forces to pre war positions. Recommend

  • Mahvesh
    Sep 2, 2015 - 3:00PM

    Please refer to Lt. Gen (R) Mahmud Ahmed’s comprehensive book called “Illusion of Victory” A Military History of the Indo-Pak War 1965.Recommend

  • A Keen Observer
    Sep 2, 2015 - 3:04PM

    Please refer to the book by Lt. Gen Mahmud Ahmed “Illusion of Victory: A Military History of the Indo-Pak War 1965” for a comprehensive analysis elucidated through innumerable illustrated maps highlighting the details of the war. Recommend

  • JSM
    Sep 2, 2015 - 3:27PM

    @Muhammad Ahmad:
    If India attacked Pakistan first, what was Operation Gibraltar?Recommend

  • vicktor d'souza
    Sep 2, 2015 - 3:34PM

    @wb: Well, here’s some logic for ya: Pakistan creamed India in the Rann of Kutch War, which was a precursor to the ’65 war. Does that compute, Mr Beancounter ?Recommend

  • Mayuresh
    Sep 2, 2015 - 4:05PM

    Please do not find an equivalence between India and Pak on this point. A foolhardy small nation imposed war on a bigger slumbering giant and caused significant permanent damage. It is Pakistan who has not learnt its lesson as was evident in Kargil. Let’s not talk about the symbolic acts but real actions. There is nothing macho is tying down a country bigger than yours — its called a suicidal mission and India’s struggle is it is unable to deal with such a mission — that’s India’s failure not Pakistan’s winRecommend

  • azmat
    Sep 2, 2015 - 4:11PM

    I think we need to accept the establishments of both countries plant these kind of stories to boost the morale of general public and propaganda is a tool of war being regularly taught as a tactic in military schools throughout the world – nothing new. As far as the victory is concerned, Pakistan considers it as a victory because it successfully held up a force that was 5 times more in number and resources. Otherwise, the claim of gaining territory on the Indian side does not hold that much importance because Pakistan also lost some territory to the enemyRecommend

  • usman777
    Sep 2, 2015 - 4:26PM

    Using superior Indian logic.. Pakistan won in 1948 having captured so much Kashmiri territory. so why this nonsesne about losing every war. Stop changing the metrics!Recommend

  • shafi
    Sep 2, 2015 - 5:14PM

    @Raj usa, from u collected this valuable that china asked pak not to attack india while chinese themselves attack, i think Rajdictionary.com..
    http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-how-pakistan-helped-india-during-1962-war-with-china-kuldip-nayar-book-excerpt/20120706.htmRecommend

  • Mahesh
    Sep 2, 2015 - 5:17PM

    As an Indian, I never ever heard that Indian army captured Lahore. Could the author give the source of his information? This is news to us. We knew that 1965 war was a stalemate. India was caught napping, still managed to not loose any territory.Recommend

  • Ali
    Sep 2, 2015 - 7:00PM

    @wb:
    “3) What was the objective of India in 1965 war? To defend Kashmir and repel the enemy army.”

    Do you really think this was the objective of the indian army in the 1965 war ? The Indians further planned to invade West Pakistan and capture Lahore and other areas in which they failed miserably. Pakistanis celebrate the war because they think they successfully defended the Indian attack for many days till the end of the war. Recommend

  • Kushal
    Sep 2, 2015 - 7:44PM

    @Ali: WB was right. You can’t analyse even simple things . If the war was started with Indian invasion of Lahore then what was Operation Gibralter and Grand Slam?Recommend

  • YA
    Sep 2, 2015 - 8:45PM

    The comments on this article only prove one thing….. After 50 years the idiots on both sides still have not learned anything…..Recommend

  • romm
    Sep 2, 2015 - 8:47PM

    @Roshan:
    wikipedia can not be referred as a source in any research work in any university. its always written EDIT at the end of sentenceRecommend

  • Appan
    Sep 2, 2015 - 9:51PM

    Forget about winning or losing. Has any country gained? none. It is only continuation of hatred, loss of opportunities for growth and misery all over. Let us work for peace. Let us work for collaboration in trade and tourism.Forget about Kashmir for a while.Recommend

  • hellboy
    Sep 2, 2015 - 10:28PM

    “sane, philosophical and political critical thinking” is missing in Pakistan, and Pakistan had lost a tremendous human resource that it had fought the war with IndiaRecommend

  • Dr.M.M. Khan
    Sep 2, 2015 - 11:35PM

    I don’t know how many of those writing about 1965 actually participated in it. I did! It was a loss for Pakistan at all three fronts. ie politically none of the objectives were attained. Militarily we achieved nothing and finally economically pakistan became bankrupt. Finally we exposed our achilles heel—–east pakistan was left defenseless. We had no plan B. In war there is no victory only varying degree of defeat. Let us not be emotional about an event which took place fifty years ago. A new generation of indians and pakistanis have grown up. Let us move on with gums and not guns. We owe it to our future generations.Recommend

  • Vinod chauhan
    Sep 3, 2015 - 12:04AM

    @hellboy:
    @Another Indian:
    Thats right me old mate. Pakistan won all wars also all cricket matchesRecommend

  • Manoj
    Sep 3, 2015 - 1:01AM

    In North America the Pakistani origin does not identify themselves as Pakistani but instead say they are Indians. So after independence from British rule, who is the winner. Recommend

  • Bewildered
    Sep 3, 2015 - 1:31AM

    @Raj – USA:

    “it was only because of China that Pakistan lost the only opportunity to snatch Kashmir from India,”

    What I know, it was USA who forced Pakistan not to join the war with communist China because of a slew of treaties Pakistan was in with the USA and the West at that time against the Socialist block, and they assured Ayub Khan help settling the Kashmir dispute in return in which they didn’t show much enthusiasm later. Regarding China not helping Pakistan, the fact is China helped Pakistan like a true friend by providing arms and diplomatic support in the UN even though the relationships with China were then recently started which now have matured to a great friendship. Further, friendship between two countries is not like the friendship of two buddies fighting street scuffles together. Did USSR come to your help against China in 1962? Did US send their troops to fight along with Pak Army despite having defense treaties with Pakistan? Why to blame China only? Or, is it your desperate attempt to create strife between Pakistan and China?Recommend

  • hari
    Sep 3, 2015 - 7:18AM

    @Ghostrider:
    It still is, ever heard of RAW?! Lol…..Recommend

  • hari
    Sep 3, 2015 - 7:22AM

    @shahid:
    Bhai, you fear death because your belief tells you that you live only once. But we know we will be born again and again to do our karma. Grow up and study comparative theology.Recommend

  • Nav
    Sep 3, 2015 - 8:03AM

    @wb – I have to agree with with your assessment. This is what the independent sources quoted in Wikipedia article says.Recommend

  • MMS
    Sep 3, 2015 - 8:37AM

    I thing ET wants more Indian followers that is why they wrtie and publish such articles. I do not want to live in fools paradise. You talk neutrality, please inform why 600 tanks came to pakistan to have dance party in Pakistan.
    You talk of Pakistan attacked india in 1965, if operation gibraltor was attack with 400 troops, why did india came with 600 tanks. Please the check the tashkent accord, it says that all the forces should go back to LOC. Infact it should have written Pakistani forces to move back of LOC.
    has any one ever read Tashkent declaration. Recommend

  • Ali
    Sep 3, 2015 - 11:46AM

    @Kushal:
    If the war had started with the failure of Operation Gibraltar then it ended with the successful defense of Lahore. Recommend

  • Kushal
    Sep 3, 2015 - 2:08PM

    @Ali: Indian leadership was not that fool that it would occupy a hostile teritorry in 21st Century. After 1945 when UN was formed it is not possible for anyone to blatantly attack and occupy a land. The Lahore attack was not a standalone operation it was to relieve pressure from Kashmir front and hence it was successful. Recommend

  • Tell it like it is
    Sep 3, 2015 - 11:40PM

    @YA:
    Just a little correction here, make it: After 50 years the idiots on ONE SIDE still have not learned anything…..Recommend

  • Breaking Bad
    Sep 4, 2015 - 12:42AM

    its ok if you like your own comment but I disagree with what you said because I am in North America and have never seen any fellow countrymen do that @Manoj: Recommend

  • JSM
    Sep 4, 2015 - 7:44AM

    @Dr.M.M. Khan:
    Why no one is responding to Mr Khan? Is it because truth hurts?Recommend

  • Murtaza
    Sep 7, 2015 - 1:01PM

    I have heard from my elders who live near border and they have told me that Indian Army never entered in Lahore. Our army fought very bravely. Every body, every civilian was ready to fight including my elders. Recommend

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