What is the RSS thinking of when its chief Mohan Bhagwat says, as he did a few days ago, that “Hindustan Hindu rashtra hai (India is a Hindu nation)”?
The question to be asked is: What does Bhagwat mean by ‘Hindu’ in this context? And also a second one, what does he mean by ‘rashtra’?
To answer the second one first, rashtra means nation, though loosely it could also mean state. A Hindu state is a reasonably precise thing, because the religious texts tell us what its structure is.
Till 2008, Nepal was the only Hindu state on earth. The Chhetri (Kshatriya) dynasty ended with the republic of 2008. Why was Nepal a Hindu state? Because executive power flowed from a warrior king, as prescribed in the Hindu code, Manusmriti. But Nepal was a ‘Hindu state’ only to that extent. Nothing else from Hindu texts could be applied because much of it is against the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
The RSS has not made the demand that the Indian state be organised by caste, so we will assume that the word rashtra was used in the sense of ‘nation’.
The dictionary defines a nation as, “a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.”
Let us look at the word ‘Hindu’ then. The conflation of India, Indus and Hindu is of course ancient and we know of the Indica of Arrian (which records the campaigns of Alexander the Great in Punjab) and the Indica of Megasthenes. The Arrian refers to Punjabis east of the Indus as the Indoi.
However, this conflation makes no sense when used in the line “Hindustan Hindu rashtra hai” because it would then mean Hindustan is an Indian nation, which is a tautology. Clearly, Bhagwat was saying something a little different when he meant Hindu. One interpretation is that he meant that Indians should all recognise that it was Hindu identity that was at the root of their cultural expression. That Islam and Christianity in India were also in some way an aspect of Hindustani culture and should be different from Islam and Christianity as they were practiced elsewhere in the world.
When Hindu is used in the geographic sense, the RSS has support from many people, including some minorities who agree with its definition. Goa’s deputy chief minister, Francis D’Souza of the Bharatiya Janata Party told the Times of India in an interview: “India is a Hindu nation. There is no doubt about it. It is always a Hindu nation and it will always stay a Hindu nation. You don't have to create a Hindu nation.”
Asked to explain, D'Souza said, "India is a Hindu country — Hindustan. All Indians in Hindustan are Hindus, including me. I am a Christian Hindu, I am Hindustani.”
The BJP’s Minority Morcha president Abdul Rasheed Ansari also agreed. In an interview to PTI, Ansari pointed to Allama Iqbal’s poem Tarana-e-Hindi (commonly known as Saare jahan se achcha). In it, Iqbal refers to Indians as Hindi in the lines – “Hindi hain hum, watan hai Hindustan hamara” (We are Hindis and our land is Hindustan).
Ansari said, "in my opinion, whatever Bhagwat said was in a social context. He did not mean to say that the people of other religions are Hindus in a religious manner. His comments should only be seen in a social light and there should not be any objection to it."
Another Muslim, Union minority affairs minister Najma Heptullah also defended Bhagwat in an interview to Hindustan Times. Asked if it was right to call India’s minorities ‘Hindu-Muslims’ and ‘Hindu-Christians’, Heptullah said, “It is not about right or wrong. It is about history.” If some people called Muslims Hindi or Hindu they should not be so sensitive because it didn’t affect their faith, she added.
All these people who defended Bhagwat were eloquent but this is actually at the root of the problem. Bhagwat and the RSS are reaching for inclusion (I personally don’t think Bhagwat meant ill when he said it). However, their track record is such that their intent is seen by many with suspicion.
It is good that the RSS chief has Christians and Muslims interpreting his words, but it would be much better if he himself gave a coherent explanation that would satisfy his critics.
Published in The Express Tribune, August 31st, 2014.
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@Jamshed Rutomjeewala: Clearly you did not understand the article. did you ? You thought the usual India basher Akar has once again written something bad about RSS. But I myself am surprised that he for a change has tried his best effort to write something neutral and let audience be the best judge of the event. Read it again and elighten yourself bro. Neither the past and never the future of India will ever be bleak like it has been and it will stay bleak for Pakistan (unless you change your religious attitude )
@Salim Alvi: One simple question. why on earth you are ashamed to write under your true name and display your great knowledge.
@harkol: Dear Sir, With all respect I say that you are a true Hindu. Your grand father has shown you the path of true saints. My Regards.
@The Chauhan: Ref:Your comment to Jamshed Rutomjeewala (And yet you r busy analysing the dents to Secularism in India when you never had one in your country.)
No Pakistani will object if you find dents in the Islamic nature of his Republic. If you feel Pakistan State is not following Islamic principles perfectly you may please offer informed criticism. An evaluation of India to determine how far it has practised its Secular ideal should be similarly welcomed. If you disagree with any evaluator please provide a counter instead of deflecting.
@Ashtachakra - How about our dear neighbors lead by example first.
Nobody reads Aakar in India. He can earn his livelihood only by writing in Pakistani newspapers. I am sure he has family to feed. So he MUST write what Pakistanis like to read. So let him be!
I think Hindu Rashtra means Muslims in India should be offered the protection and be classified as Zhimmi with due rights,privileges and obligations toward Rashtra and its people. There should be no reason to be afraid of India turning Hindu Rashtra as it will then officially promote the safety of Muslims matching Pakistan.
@Rakib - Sir, standing ovation for an extremely well written analysis.
@harkol: Thank you for sharing the noble examples of your beloved father & others. In General: Are Hindus tolerant? Or, indifferent? It's easy to be tolerant when one is not in full power as a monochromatic religious group. Hindus are not monolithic & use the umbrella word "Hindu" rather loosely. IMO;-.. Hindus have no problem with Islam & Christianity. Their issue is with some Muslims & Christians. Muslims & Christians have no problem with Hindus. They have issues with Hinduism. Individual Hindu can easily add just another deity, holy personage, a durgah or Catholic (almost never Protestant) place of worship to his pantheon. Problem occurs only when Hindus expect reciprocation.. Others can't return the gesture. Muslims are enjoined by their creed to worship none other.Hindus are happy to add Buddha as one of the ten Avtars but a Buddhist can't include Ram or Krishna in his prayers. All this doesn't make Hindu better or superior in relation to others. It only means he is inclusive, eclectic & syncretic by being polytheistic. Others appear to be exclusive & rigid due to monotheism. Consider exceptions: When a Christian Jesudas sang emotionally charged Hindu devotionals in front of the famous temple at Trichur in Kerala, when late Chief Justice MM Ismail (a Muslim of Madras) held his audience enthralled with his moving speeches on "Ramayan" and when the Hindu CM of Gujarat snubbed his Muslim-subject who offered him a skull-cap, they all exhibited nothing more than their individual choices & not a trait acquired from their respective religions.
What is Hindu Rashtra? I am a Hindu and I don't know what it is and I don't care about it. Religion does not rule my life. There is a place for religion and it is best that it stays there. It does not belong in politics.
@Mukund: sipmly NOT TRUE
@Nasrani:
Thanks for the interesting bit of history about the Kerala St. Thomas Christians.
@Ch. Allah Daad: You are wrong. The words India and Hindu are synonymous since their root word is the same Sindhu. There's nothing wrong in calling Hindu Muslim or Hindu Catholic etc..
@Ch. Allah Daad: You have slipped off your rocker, Iranian, Turkish, French, Mali ..Muslims denote country. Hindu Muslim, Catholic Muslim, Protestant Muslim,....do you understand?? No such thing !
If we can call them and they also proudly call themselves Arab Muslims, Iranian Muslims, Turkish Muslims, Egyptian Muslims, then there is no harm to call them Hindu Muslims.
I don't understand why people want to dispute that fact that India is a 85% Hindu nation and a natural home to the Hindus. Why the F would we want to have it any other way when the rest of the world is going the Taliban way.
@Moosa Reality/ truths are too difficult for you to digest. In fact the light cannot penetrate your mind. Thus you remain a Pakistani.
@harkol,
Ra as in Ram means Light / Wisdom / Peace within Oneself (Ma). Start chanting it and you will feel it as your tongue rolls in.
Find etymological roots of Tra as in Shastra, Astra and Shaastra. Hint in pronouncing it your tongue has to go the front of the mouth going outward.
India / BharatVarsha was GanaTanTra even at Gautama, the Buddha time. Gautam Buddha's dad was an elected head of his Gana. Rashtra is made of number of Ganas / principalties / kingdoms.
Country, nation, state are Roman, colonial and imperialist constructs. Trying to understand native governance structure leads to confusion. So also religion, which was invented first by Romans to divide and rule over Jews and other natives. This has made MidEast into Muddled Beast, even today.
Instead of arguing over words and translating our own concepts and words in alien concepts and misleading alien words, we need to get the essence of our way of organizing society and welfare of it.
Panchayats need to be new Ganas. Anglo's bureaucratic structure was more concerned for tax collection and dividing the people so that they can be ruled. Watan system of Mughlai also was for creating their local proxies. Seeds of corruption and misgovernance are in that culture of Nazarana, loot and plunder. India needs to transform the alien governing structures and make it more accountable to the people it serves. Panchayats paying salaries of officials, their selections and promotions. There needs to be compulsory draft for defending the Rashtra.
Here is something for those who wonder what Hindu ethos is about to think.
My Grand Father, a staunch brahmin, did pooja twice a day. But, he had no hesitation in going to a church and be part of a prayer meet there. In our village when a bunch of muslims wanted to build a Mosque, he gladly parted with 25cents of land for the purpose.
A good friend of mine is Marwadi. But, he would go to st. patricks church in Bangalore each thursday. I had asked him once why he did so. He told me, he was used to going to a temple to find solitude each Thursday in his hometown. In Bangalore city, there weren't any temples that aren't crowded and he could only find solitude in the church. So, he went to meditate there.
I am an atheist, and I am never challenged or asked to conform. In my home functions it is entirely up to me to follow the customs or leave them. There are of course some traditionalists who may speak behind my back, but no one forces me or says anything to me.
Music Legend A.R.Rahman was a Hindu by birth, but he converted. Yet, he is accepted with warmth. Another Music legend of south Ilayaraja is a staunch hindu traditionalist. But, he has a son living with him in the same house, who has converted to Islam.
That's Hindu nation (Rashtra) for you. Tolerant, accepting other's faith as a legitimate spiritual path.
@Jamshed Rutomjeewala: The most left of centre party that ruled Pakistan i.e.PPP has not suggested a secular constitution for Pakistan where people of all religions have equal rights. In fact it actually introduced 2nd amendment to Pakistani constitution which criminalized Ahmadi worship.
The most right of centre party that has ruled India i.e. the BJP has never once suggested that the secular constitution of India should be reviewed.
As a St. Thomas Christian, we have always believed that “We are Christian in faith, Indian in citizenship and Hindu in culture.” We therefore have no problems accepting these "new" assertions.
The St. Thomas Christians of Kerala claim to be one of the earliest converts to Christianity anywhere in the world directly by an apostle of Christ. Reliable documentation dates the St. Thomas Christians to around 300 AD. However even today, their attire, traditions and culture are predominantly Indian or Hindu, so much so that the Portugese who landed in India in the 16th century were not only shocked to see Christians here, but they also convened the Synod of Diamper to "convert" these Christians from their so-called pagan practices. Much literature and documentation about the St. Thomas Christians was lost as a result, however the St. Thomas Christians eventually fought back and managed to retain their traditions. Even today there are churches in Kerala that conduct mass in Syriac, a language contemporary to the Aramaic spoken by Christ.
ET: 2nd attempt. The above is historical fact, why then is it being disallowed?
This world, our world and billions upon billions of those balls of rocks, dust, frozen ice, gases and only the Creator of all these knows what are out there suspended and in circulation, are in the ownership of the Lord, Lord Creator. The Lord who created everything and thus owns everything including ourselves. The same Lord has laid down His Laws. All those who obey His Laws are winners. All those who do not, are losers. We may think whatever we like but at the end of the day we all are going to be judged by the Lord according to His Laws. We may start believing that the Sun will not rise in the East tomorrow. But will our belief make that happen tomorrow if the same is not in the will of the Lord? Those who treat their fellow kind, the human kind, with justice, kindness and respect are the ones who are in the obedience of Lord and thus are winners. All those who do not are losers. Did I make the above fact clear. very clear O' people of Rome? So O' people of Rome. Come to obey the Lord, the very Lord you will one day stand before, shaking, trembling, drenched in your own sweat and searching of everything good you may have done while in this world, here today. Do the good work for the fellow kind and earn your reward from the Lord. For your good and bad deeds will go with you. Good deeds will save you on that day. That terrible terrible day for many of us.
@Jamshed Rutomjeewala: Sir , you talk as if the non-Taliban parties like PML-N ,PTI ,PPP are some secular parties.Let us look at the history of all these:
1) Jinnah gave anti-secular speech in 1948 , back-tracking his 11 August 1947.
2) Muslim League headed by Liaqat declared Pakistan a Muslim democracy in 1948.
3) Z A Bhutto , inspite of being a socialist instead of undoing Objective Resolution went even a step further by declaring Ahmediyyahs as non-Muslims.
4) It was Zia who finally gave you the ISLAMIC Constitution.
And yet you r busy analysing the dents to Secularism in India when you never had one in your country.
@Salim Alvi:
Doesn't appear to be the proper etymology of the word. What is your source.
Rashtra in Sanskrit means the 'nation' (not a country, mind you). And from what I have heard - (may be wrong) it stands for Rajya Shastra (ethology of a country) - In other words, it is the character of a realm of an kingdom - that makes the nation.
And India, for the longest of time has indeed been the 'Hindu Rashtra'. Except, the character of Hindu Rajya Shastra was to accept the good any faith. i.e. there was never a singular divinity or book in Hindu rashtra, that is not its character. That is why it is easier for Hindus to co-exist with Muslims or Christians, but not vice versa.
The author ignores the political realities of India which Mr.Modi is and I hope will succeed in changing for the good of all Indians. The regional politicians under UPA are experts in dividing India on caste basis. Under the guise of affirmative action INEPTOCRACY by the unprincipled reigns. The state and national projects are treated as dynastic matters and hijacked by family members of state leaders to amass great and obscene personal wealth. Indians must aspire to replace INEPTOCRACY by MERITOCRACY .
India is natural home of Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, Sikhs and all other sects that were born in India. Hindus consider them party of Hindu family. Islam and Christianity are aliens to India.
Look at facts. 1947 : Pakistan had 22% Hindus and sikhs. 1947 : East Pakistan/Bangladesh had 30% Hindus. 1947 : India had 8% muslims
Today : Pakistan has 1% Hindus Today : Bangladesh has : 8% Hindus Today ; India has 16% muslims
A Hindu rashtra is where Hindus will not face genocide as they have suffered in else where in south asia.
@Mukund: Such a rashtra exists only in mythology and imagination. More than that, you rely on Muslim rashtra to define Hindu Rashtra, means it does not have its own existence.
It means that India is an administrative unit that needs to preserve the cultural legacy of the Indian subcontinent which is 'Hinduism' which is a foreign term used to describe the Arya Dharm value system of our ancestors. The people of India must strive for the preservation of the message of the Sapta Rishis, and their protector, the first King on Earth, Raja Manu (the origin of the term 'Man').
An excellent article by an esteemed author. Showing India's clear gradual descent into religious extremism. The Hindu Talibans are on the rise. Aided and abetted by Modi. Muslims are told to go Pakistan. Where will the Christians go? Vatican? Where will the Bhuddists go? Tibet? Where will all these thousands of minorities, of different sects, go? Concentration Camps? The future looks bleak, indeed, for Hindustan.
Dear Ahmed Patel.A place were Islamic law will not be followed neither christian law.Place where Indian law is followed, noo matter howsoever disagreeable it is for your European and Arab Masters.Also a free land.
Aakar why you are writing our events in a foreign paper? If you want to make name and fame try something . but do not strain your brain so much. see rest of indians and do you work in india something useful. shame on you.
Of course all Indians are Hindus and this is why India is called Hindustan also. Culturally Indian Muslims are very different than Arab or Persian Muslims. Hindu is more of geographical and cultural identity than the religious one. Pakistani Muslims are also former Hindus and now trying toe be Arabs.
Rashtra = Ra (peace, spiritual Growth) Sh (Shasan = rule) Tra (space+air+land)
Pakistan was created. Do the people enjoy peace and spiritual growth? New alien wordy Book was imposed on India - Indian Constitution. Did it create environment of peace and spiritual growth? It has continued New East India Company rule, Definitely it is not Rashtra.
Hindu Rashtra is where people of all religions, faiths live as equal citizens. No one gets special privileges, no discrimination. In case you still have difficulty understanding look at the Muslim Rashtra next door and the Muslim Rashtras all over the world. The opposite behavior is Hindu Rashtra. We get this idea from our Sanatana Dharma which is several thousand years old.