Modi accuses Pakistan of waging proxy war in Kashmir

By AFP
Published: August 12, 2014
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India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi. PHOTO: AFP

India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi. PHOTO: AFP

KARGIL: Narendra Modi accused Pakistan of waging a proxy war in Kashmir on Tuesday as he became the first Indian prime minister to visit the town of Kargil since more than 1,000 died in a battle fought there 15 years ago.

Modi landed in the remote Himalayan town a day after India and Pakistan traded accusations of ceasefire violations on their disputed border.

He is the first Indian leader to visit the highly sensitive area since a 1999 incursion triggered a conflict between India and Pakistan.

Since then, India has maintained a heavy military presence in Muslim-majority Kargil, in the remote mountainous region of Ladakh.

But a reporter at the scene said there were few soldiers in evidence as the town readied for the arrival of the prime minister, who was due to address troops and open a new hydropower project there.

Kargil, which has a population of just 20,000 and is often cut off in winter, was decked out with flags from Modi’s Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and around 5,000 local people had gathered to listen to the prime minister speak.

Speaking earlier Tuesday to soldiers in Leh, capital of the Ladakh region, where he stopped en route, Modi condemned what he called a “proxy war by Pakistan” and said troops were “suffering more casualties from terrorism than from war”, according to the government’s Press Information Bureau.

Modi, a Hindu nationalist, also pledged to build new roads and develop tourism in the restive Muslim-majority state, where poverty and underdevelopment have exacerbated anti-government sentiment.

“There was a time when prime ministers never visited the state. I have come here two times already,” said the prime minister, who was decked out in a traditional Ladakhi gold-coloured robe and hat for the occasion.

“We want to make jobs available for the youth. We want educational institutions for the youth… The government is committed to developing tourism in this region.”

Kashmir is divided between India and Pakistan, which both claim the region in full but administer separate partial areas.

Ajai Sahni, executive director at the Institute of Conflict Management think tank, said Modi’s visit was an “important first step towards bringing these areas back to the centre of national and strategic consciousness”.

“This government’s initiative in the region will gradually shift the power equation in favour of India over Pakistan as people in the region become more integrated (with India) with development and progress,” he told AFP.

During his visit, Modi will also visit the Siachen glacier, dubbed the world’s highest battlefield due to the long-running territorial dispute.

An estimated 8,000 troops have died there since 1984, almost all of them from avalanches, landslides, frostbite, altitude sickness or heart failure rather than combat.

He is accompanied by India’s new army chief Dalbir Singh Suhag, and is expected to speak to troops stationed on the glacier.

The nuclear-armed rivals fought over Siachen in 1987, though guns on the glacier have largely fallen silent since a peace process began in 2004.

The visit comes a day after Pakistan summoned a senior Indian diplomat over a cross-border firing incident near the eastern city of Sialkot, which the foreign ministry said left at least one civilian dead.

The Pakistani authorities accused India of a “ceasefire violation” and registered a formal protest.

New Delhi and Islamabad agreed a ceasefire in 2003 but firing along the disputed de facto border called the Line of Control, which separates Kashmir into Indian and Pakistani sectors, still occurs sporadically.

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  • sharabi
    Aug 12, 2014 - 10:21AM

    Modi will return true glory of Bharat,
    Development is Modi`s agenda.

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  • Strategic Asset
    Aug 12, 2014 - 11:00AM

    Modi has been to Jammu & Kashmir once or twice already, to flag off a train and to open a hydro-electric power plant by NHPC.

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  • Syed
    Aug 12, 2014 - 11:01AM

    Brace yourselves..for all the Indian trolls are about to thrash Pakistan and shower us with the comments of shining India..They seriously have nothing important to do in life!

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  • Aug 12, 2014 - 11:15AM

    Forget kashmir..India can handle it better than pak.. Its time to focus on real issues..

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  • pk
    Aug 12, 2014 - 11:17AM

    Forget kashmir..India can handle it better than pak..

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  • Bewildered
    Aug 12, 2014 - 11:21AM

    “KARGIL: Narendra Modi travelled on Tuesday to the disputed area of Kashmir, where he will become the first Indian prime minister in 15 years to visit the Siachen glacier – dubbed the world’s highest battlefield.”

    And our PM has visited New Delhi for his coronation. So, what’s the difference?

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  • Azadi
    Aug 12, 2014 - 11:30AM

    Pak needs to focus on core internal issues..India can handle Kashmir better than Pak..

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  • kulwant singh
    Aug 12, 2014 - 12:04PM

    @Syed: My dear Brother we have no problem with Pakistan shining and our good wishes are with you and I don’t under stand your hate for India shining as an Indian I am proud of shining India but I have no hate of grudge for shining Pakistan. Stay blessed we can live wihout hating each other and no religion teach hate religion teach love.

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  • Dharamvir
    Aug 12, 2014 - 12:26PM

    In Leh Mr Modi said Pakistan “has lost the strength to fight a conventional war, but continues to engage in the proxy war of terrorism.”

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  • observer
    Aug 12, 2014 - 12:55PM

    Kashmir is not “disputed”. The only issue is that a large portion (AJK/Gilgit-Baltististan/Northern areas are illegally occupied by Pakistan. Indian constitution claims all of this part as part of India.

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  • Rajesh
    Aug 12, 2014 - 12:58PM

    Recently I came to know that India built 10,700 check dams since independence upto year 2000. Since becoming CM, Modi alone built 110,000 check dams in gujrat transforming millions of hectares of drought affected land into well irrigated agricultural land benefitting thoisands of farmers.
    This man is a honest and efficient worker for the country. Congress propaganda ensured that he is remembered only for the riots.

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  • rahul
    Aug 12, 2014 - 12:58PM

    @Syed Acctually you guys have very less or nothing shining in pakistan.So we are here to help you overcome your depression.Like our independence day will be celebrated with peace,harmony and nationhood.And your independence day will be celebrated by army in your capital city,long march and whatever.But I must say we will be enjoying your entertainment.

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  • Kashmiri
    Aug 12, 2014 - 1:07PM

    Only development can get Kashmir closer to India.. Modi is on the right track… Well done..

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  • Junaid
    Aug 12, 2014 - 1:22PM

    I wish we have same situation internally. If Mr Imran Khan and Thug TUQ will spare our Pakistan and let PM concentrate on some constructive work to do some economic progress in country.
    I mean think even if IK remove Nawaz Government on August 14th. What will happen next ? Even if IK will become PM , don’t you see PMLN will do the same politics to derail PTI. I am telling you the best bet is let PMLN have 5 years term , then compete PMLN based on performance and then if Awam devides to vote IK , then IK will have next 5 years to perform. This will build democracy and economics otherwise in next 5 years India will take a big jump in economy we will still live in this same uncertainty of leg pulling politics.

    Guys wakeup. 1300 points loss in Karachi stock exchange yesterday is enough to signal is Red Danger Sign.

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  • Idp
    Aug 12, 2014 - 1:27PM

    Our Leaders should learn some lessons of development from Modi…

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  • jami
    Aug 12, 2014 - 1:29PM

    Modi should focus on the Maoist insurgency that occupies nearly 40% of India’s area, lest they lose even more of their territory.

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  • Dafuqqq
    Aug 12, 2014 - 1:31PM

    @rahul:
    This independent day,with all this drama and truckload of problems we have,630 million of our citizens wouldn’t be running outside to take a dump and neither would the women fear being raped while they find safe heavens for a taking a dump.enjoy this now.

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  • hanif
    Aug 12, 2014 - 1:31PM

    Kashmir is a disputed territory and as such its future is yet to be decided. Pakistan must maintain its protective edge because the people of Kashmir may require it in the near future.

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  • poleturtle
    Aug 12, 2014 - 1:39PM

    He is right.
    He will teach some lessons too !!

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  • Blunt
    Aug 12, 2014 - 1:39PM

    Nothing important in the item. Only ET can give it most important place on the website.

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  • Azi
    Aug 12, 2014 - 1:43PM

    @kulwant singh:

    He is talking about trolls looking for a war when they hardly can understand the consrquences not all Indian people in general. You are a rare breed often known as sane people.

    But I think modi should have taken into consideration that if what us says is indeed true, the recent BSF release would not have been as smooth.

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  • Pity
    Aug 12, 2014 - 1:48PM

    Well what else can be expected from Modi sarkar?

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  • Sodomite
    Aug 12, 2014 - 1:54PM

    Time to set the record straight. Kashmiris will soon be able to leave for their homeland including the family of our PM and Gullu Butt.

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  • Parvez
    Aug 12, 2014 - 1:58PM

    What else is he expected to say while visiting Kashmir……..

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  • Rex Minor
    Aug 12, 2014 - 2:01PM

    @Rajesh:
    The guy looks like an imposter! If he is hari krishna man then why is keeping a beard? Is his chin out of proportion with the rest of face ? No offense, I like chai walas but not when they are become trouble makers in the region. Every time an Indian leader talks about the occupied Kashmir, he is taking a step towards annhilation of billion plus Indians.

    Rex Minor

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  • Aug 12, 2014 - 2:01PM

    Who cares what this genocidal beast Mostor says about Kashmir
    He should be worried and those those innocent guaranties whom he and his supporters on his order burned alive

    It does not belong to India and it’s a disputed land and should be and will be decided by the Kashmiri People themselves as per UN plebiscite.All these tactics are to sidelined and grab and snatched the Kashmir resource by showing and fake dreams and slogans. But it won’t ever going work.

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  • Pakistani
    Aug 12, 2014 - 2:04PM

    For the love of God, please do not say that Mr. Modi!! We are sorry for any inconvenience caused to your government. After all, how can any country even match the fair, just, non-interfering etc. behaviour like that of the Indian government that we have seen since partition.

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  • faisal
    Aug 12, 2014 - 2:28PM

    Dear Rahul,We always celebrate our independence day with passion and enthusiasm and this one also..But you Indians always shows cheap mind…

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  • Umar
    Aug 12, 2014 - 2:35PM

    @rahul:
    Hope you keep a tune to the flood in your country during commercial breaks ;).

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  • saad
    Aug 12, 2014 - 2:38PM

    His brother here in Pakistan, Nawaz Sharif, will appease him and ultimately “insanity” will prevail

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  • Ravian
    Aug 12, 2014 - 2:39PM

    Kashmir is an unfinished agenda point from 1947 partition.

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  • Surya
    Aug 12, 2014 - 2:40PM

    The land belongs to us Kashmiri Pandits, the natives of Kashmir. We have been systematically ethnically cleansed from the valley. It’s time for us to be repatriated to where we belong.

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  • ahsan
    Aug 12, 2014 - 2:42PM

    Modified to Nawaz’s rescue by building pressure on Pak and also diversion tactics

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  • AVMPolpot
    Aug 12, 2014 - 2:50PM

    A tale of Two PMs
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    One is sitting in a bunker trembling at the thought of Azadi march
    the other is spreading message of development and sovereignty all over the country.
    Thank God for Modi.

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  • AVMPolpot
    Aug 12, 2014 - 2:52PM

    ” He is the first Indian leader to visit the highly sensitive area since a 1999 incursion triggered a conflict between India and Pakistan.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    The incursion was led by aliens. Well done ET.

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  • Rex Minor
    Aug 12, 2014 - 2:56PM

    @Parvez:
    He could have said that if there is a paradise on Earth then this is it, sorrounded by the tallest mountain of the world where avatar Gods that he worships found peace and rest there;. he could have also spoken about the people of Kashmir, who are non violent in nature and considered as one of the most beautiful and docile human specie on this planet. He could have also repeated what the previous Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh said, namely that we can not alter the boundries between the two countries but could make them meaningless. No, sir, the sirkar is a peasant and thought of military and ‘terrorism’ instead.

    Rex Minor

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  • youronlyfriend
    Aug 12, 2014 - 3:16PM

    While one beloved Honourable Prime Minister’s Government is working to bring peace and progress and develop tourism in the region, their is another Government not so far away, which is…….

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  • Shakil
    Aug 12, 2014 - 3:56PM

    We get the blame anyway, why not do it then with some real conviction in Kashmir and all states in India that could do with independence!

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  • Professor
    Aug 12, 2014 - 3:58PM

    For all you people who think Kashmir belongs to Pakistan, here’s a heads up: Kashmir had been Hindu land for 5000 years before the Muslim invaders came. The Muslim invaders left, so did the Englishmen. Now, Kashmir is where it always belongs.

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  • zeeshan
    Aug 12, 2014 - 4:00PM

    @kulwant singh: well said, Harmony & Peace is requested.

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  • shehryar
    Aug 12, 2014 - 4:01PM

    @observer:

    indian constitution huh
    seriously???
    we “pakistanis” don’t give a damn about our own constitution

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  • zeeshan
    Aug 12, 2014 - 4:02PM

    @rahul: Good for you. Give your PM more time so true colors will show you guys the Darkness. Instead of pointing fingers, join your hands and pray for others it wont charge you a penny mate.

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  • V. C. Bhutani
    Aug 12, 2014 - 4:10PM

    There is no point in trying to be clever. The facts about Kashmir are as follows. Neither of the two countries India and Pakistan can use force and throw the other out of Kashmir. UN is dead as a dodo. No one gives a damn about UNSC resolutions about Kashmir. Even the UN Secretary General said that UNSC resolutions about Kashmir cannot be implemented. Nothing will be gained by talking about plebiscite: it will not be held. In a practical sense, all that is possible is that the present status quo should be confirmed and LOC should be converted into IB. Further, it does not help to talk about “nuclear-armed neighbours”: neither of them can use its nuclear weapons and get away with it. The rest of the world will take an unforgiving attitude towards the one that uses nuclear weapons first – under any circumstances. Besides, one of them using nuclear weapons shall ensure a response in kind from the other. That will cause widespread and unacceptable damage to both. Besides, the sober part is that India has made some economic progress but it needs to do much more. Likewise, Pakistan also needs to get on with economic development. This is no time to talk about war. There will be no winner: both will be losers after war. I would beg of everybody to be sober and serious. No one is trying to win a point. V. C. Bhutani, Delhi, 12 Aug 2014, 1640 ISTRecommend

  • WeWillWin
    Aug 12, 2014 - 4:55PM

    @Junaid, Do you think that with this corrupt model, any Politician who is not corrupt can ever win elections ? If so, may God have mercy on you. If not then please listen to IK

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  • salman
    Aug 12, 2014 - 5:04PM

    He should feel relief now that Pakistan has really backed out from Kashmir issue practically when Musharaf was in power some 10 years back else we would had let him know what real proxy war is and infact they should be thankful to ISI that they didn’t let Taliban fighters/TTP enter Kashmir all these years. Else Mumbai type attacks would had became norm in India and thousands of Indian soldiers would had died by now.

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  • Aug 12, 2014 - 5:31PM

    @kulwant singh:
    satyavachan. Waiting for the day when Pakistan becomes a role model for others.

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  • Professor
    Aug 12, 2014 - 5:41PM

    @V. C. Bhutani:
    There is nothing to talk about Kashmir. There is certainly room for talking regarding PoK.

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  • khan
    Aug 12, 2014 - 6:14PM

    Kashmir is a disputed territory and as such its future is yet to be decided. Pakistan must maintain its protective edge because the people of Kashmir may require it in the near future.

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  • Yoghurt King
    Aug 12, 2014 - 7:09PM

    Modi should strengthen hands of Nawaz Shareif. Nawaz is facing a tough time.

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  • Imran khan
    Aug 12, 2014 - 7:11PM

    Pak should welcome this move from Modi.. Pak with an unstable govt. and cheating politics can hardly dream to develop kashmir better than India…

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  • Sher
    Aug 12, 2014 - 8:11PM

    @Surya

    The land belongs to us Kashmiri Pandits, the natives of Kashmir. We have been systematically ethnically cleansed from the valley. It’s time for us to be repatriated to where we belong.

    Just like jews were evacuated from Palestine thousands of years ago. I am astonished to see these indian trolls mindset, I hope this is not the thinking of most of the India, if this is a general mindset in India then India doesn’t need any enemies.

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  • JJ
    Aug 12, 2014 - 9:11PM

    Pakistan should disarm its non-state actors as soon as possible to have Aman Ki Asha between the two countries or else these non-state actors will make India and Pakistan to go to war.

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  • Last Word
    Aug 12, 2014 - 9:42PM

    Pak military is taking the Pakistan to a dooms day scenario after losing half of the country. It wants to keep the pot boiling at LoC in order to keep its hold on the people and its top brass would stop making millions in defence purchases which would be curtailed if two countries sign peace treaty. Modi has rightly observed that Pakistan cannot win in a conventional war with India and left with no alternative Modi will create history after Indira Gandhi capture Pak occupied Kashmir.

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  • NotSoCommon
    Aug 12, 2014 - 9:44PM

    @Sher

    Are you sure you want to head the discussion in that direction, cos the ONLY claim pakistan has on Kashmir is that it is a “muslim” land; otherwise as per the accession signed by Raja Hari singh the whole of Kashmir legally belongs to India. If you want to talk about whom the land belongs, then it originally belongs to the Kashmiri Pandits so in terms of hierarchy the whole of Kashmir should go to India. After all where do you think the word Kashmir came from?!

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  • Rex Minor
    Aug 12, 2014 - 10:11PM

    @Professor:
    No body will disagree with you! But please note that the homo sapiens who moved to the Asian continent originated from the Arabian peninsula and did not paraglide from the sky or were grown on trees.. the land of Kashmir belongs to its residents and not to the chai wala and co. This is orderly procedure which was established after 2nd world war and the Indian military does not have any legitamacy to make alterations in current boundries in order to annexe the kashmiri land.

    Rex Minor

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  • Rakib
    Aug 12, 2014 - 10:48PM

    @Sher: Only the status post-1947 that is Constitutionally valid; not what happened a hundred centuries ago. There is no question of land belonging to any particular religious group (not even the numerical Muslim majority). It primarily belongs to Kashmiris-be they Muslims, Pandits, local Sikhs or Buddhists & thru instrument of accession to Indians as a whole. India doesn’t follow multi-nation ideology therefore there is no ‘Hindu’ or ‘Muslim’ Kashmir. However, the sad exodus of Pandits from Valley is an ugly fact.. Exodus began sporadically from 1947 but became pronounced in 1985. And reached its peak in 1990s. It’s a failure of J&K Govt & of Delhi & shows the bad side of separatists While there can be arguments on different reasons advanced for this evacuation, the fact of its occurrence & its tragedy as such is not disputed in Kashmir, let alone in rest of India.

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  • Parvez
    Aug 12, 2014 - 11:47PM

    @Rex Minor: Spelling it out was not necessary……but OK.

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  • Aug 13, 2014 - 1:47AM

    @Sher: but he is telling the truth. Kashmir was a hindu land. Kashmir was named after sage Kashyap and Srinagar is a hindu word. So what is your problem here?

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  • ahmed
    Aug 13, 2014 - 2:50AM

    We cannot fight the conventional warfare but we update our to modern warfare .

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  • numbersnumbers
    Aug 13, 2014 - 4:04AM

    @Rex Minor:
    Incorrect again, according to credible references, “homo sapiens” originated in Africa and spread to the rest of the world!!
    Just Google “Homo sapiens” to see many references on this subject!

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  • Sid
    Aug 13, 2014 - 4:23AM

    @Azi:
    Dear, waht Modi said was only against the terrorists and entities (state actors) supporting terrorists and not to entire Pakistan. But I can understand the sensitivity when someone just read the line literally.

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  • Latif
    Aug 13, 2014 - 4:29AM

    Looks like captain obvious got the memo….25 years too late.

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  • Syed Jalal Kashmiri
    Aug 13, 2014 - 4:38AM

    We Kashmiris do not accept any leader from India, especially a Hindu fanatic like Modi. BJP and Indian army tried many times to force Kashmiris from their homes to make room for Hindu settlers from Gujurat and other southern areas.

    The troop presence in Kashmir is to prevent a revolution by Kashmiris to throw off Indian occupation. Blaming Pakistan is just an excuse to hide the discontent of common Kashmiris.

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  • syed
    Aug 13, 2014 - 7:51AM

    Guys, some of you need to wake up from dreamland. Stand up to the terrorism and hatred of almost everybody and you will see immense progress in Pakistan but you need to acknowledge it first that the thugs are ruining the country. Most terrorists in the world have some connection to Pakistan. Also, make friends with India even if you don’t like it or its policies. There is no upside to fighting India. Of dozens of scenarios, there is not one that Pakistan wins. The glorious Pakistan Army knows that it can never fight India and win. Therefore, wake up, face reality and try to live in peace. Pakistan and India can have a great future together building on each other’s strengths. Just look at Canada and the USA.

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  • Rana Ajeet
    Aug 13, 2014 - 7:55AM

    @Syed Jalal Kashmiri:

    India must apply the policies being used by Pakistan in Baluchistan to deal with terrorist kashmiris

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  • Professor
    Aug 13, 2014 - 8:25AM

    *@Rex Minor:* You’re wrong. Using your logic, tf that was true, then the Muslim hordes who came invading India had no right to be there in the first place. They took it by force. It doesn’t mean we can’t reclaim our lands that originally belonged to us. This does not work on “finders keepers” principle.
    Fact is, it does not matter what Pakistan thinks of our ancestral lands. We’ll defend it to our last man. Hindus NEVER in their history attacked any other nation or for that matter, even defended their own lands. But we will start now.

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  • Anon
    Aug 13, 2014 - 9:50AM

    @ahmed
    thats good, and we are just sitting and looking at your modern warfare…

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  • itl
    Aug 13, 2014 - 9:57AM

    @NotSoCommon: So basically a dead man has a better claim over which country an entire province belongs to rather than the majority of the people presently living there? #RIP Logic

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  • goldconsumer
    Aug 13, 2014 - 11:56AM

    When is Modi planning to vist his Maoist friends?

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  • Professor
    Aug 13, 2014 - 11:57AM

    @itl: What is the Palestinian cause? If you are basically saying that ancestry does not mean anything, the Palestinians have no claim either. Right now, Israelis are there. Move on. That is your logic for Kashmir.

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  • Zen
    Aug 13, 2014 - 12:43PM

    @goldconsumer:
    As soon as he visits a country known as ‘epicenter of terrorism’.

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  • Milind
    Aug 13, 2014 - 7:15PM

    @goldconsumer – FYI… Modi already visited our Maoist friends in Nepal and the visit was success…
    China is also ready to welcome him…

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  • NotSoCommon
    Aug 13, 2014 - 8:59PM

    @itl

    When Pakistan sent across its tribal warrior was the man dead then? And if the question of what majority really wants then it was not the majority of India that wanted the creation of pakistan, it was the will of One man or a handful of men, so going by the same logic the existence of Pakistan is in itself farce. More over my question of plebiscite still remains unanswered, if Pakistan so badly wants to follow the UN resolution then why did it not follow the clauses itself? ….. #RIP hard facts?

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  • Pakistan.
    Aug 14, 2014 - 3:17PM

    What about the proxy war and eventual intervention of the Indian forces in East Pakistan?
    Pull out of Kashmir and no more proxy wars, no attacks on Mumbai, no more casualties in “consulates in Afghanistan.”

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  • Pakistan.
    Aug 14, 2014 - 3:21PM

    @V. C. Bhutani:
    But you have our land and are occupying our people. How do you propose we forget about that? Given the chance we will jump at the opportunity to pull a 1971 on India. We will always be the risk takers, as far as India is concerned, they are primarily at fault and have much more to lose.Recommend

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