A file photo of three of the Kashmiri students who were earlier suspended from Swami Vivekanand Subharti University in Meerut. PHOTO: AFP/FILE
According to Kashmir Media Service, the students, identified as, Peer Umair, Bilal Ahmad, Adil Nabi and Dilawar Javid, were told by the college authorities to vacate the hostel.
The students were pursuing BBA and B Tech degrees at H R Institute of Engineering and Technology.
“Yes, the students have been asked to leave the hostel,” Anil Tyagi, Chief Warden of the college stated, while speaking to the media.
“Their removal was recommended by the official committee which was assigned to investigate the matter,” he added.
He refused to comment why the students were expelled.
“The committee recommended and it had to be done,” he further remarked.
One of the students, Javid told Srinagar-based media via phone that authorities should have punished the local senior students instead of throwing them out.
Harassment
Scores of Kashmiri students studying at the university had complained that they were beaten up and ragged by seniors while the institute’s authorities did not take action against the accused students, police said on June 6.
Police had stated that a Kashmiri student of B-Tech first year at HR Institute was using the toilet in the hostel where he sustained an electric shock.
As he cried out for help, senior students from B-Tech third year rushed and inquired about the reason for shouting — which they had called as disturbing since they were busy in exam preparations.
The student, Mohammad Omar, had explained the reason but the senior students, instead of consoling him, thrashed him. The incident had snowballed into a clash in which the Kashmiri students say that about 50 of them were injured.
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@Nandagopal: LOL Historical Evidence Practically All Established History Indicates That Aryans Invaders Came From Outside and That 'DNA Genome Mapping' Has Been By Hindu Banaras University and Some Little known Research Centre From Hyderabad.Research By Indians Desperate To Prove They Were Locals From Day One How Credible
@shah and others...
I don't need a certificate of patriotism from any one. I just showed you mirror and you still denying reality. What ever you call me but the fact remains that much more cruel treatment has been given in our own schools, colleges and universities to Ahmadies (i quoted only three examples) yet people like you chose to stay dumb, now some incident happened in India with Indian citizen and you guys are trying to fall skies.
All I am trying to make you guys realize is that our own record is very shabby so lets stay quite before they start throwing our garbage back on our faces.
@Zeeshan:
Did any of the students expelled from COMSTAR, PUNJAB MEDICAL COLLEGE OR THE PRIMARY SCHOOL break law of land?
They were not expelled because they violated the rules & regulations, they were expelled only based on what they believe.
Case of Kashmiri Students is not my headache, neither is it of any Pakistani, we have enough of our own headaches and issues to mend.
@shah
It has been proved by DNA genome mapping and historical evidence, that the Aryans came from India itself and were all part of one big PIE group extending upto Central Asia. So asking Harinder and people like me to go back to where he came from is stupid, because he is in that place itself!!
stop caring about kashmiris, do care about the fire and explosions in your backyar
@Harinder S: And You Are Aryans Who Came and Destroyed The Great Indus Valley Civilisation So Why Don't You Go Back To Wherever It Is You Came From
@Shah,
Well, we do have many Pakistanis like him. Sometimes, it's hard to differentiate between those kind of Pakistanis and the Indians until the Indians spewed certain venom.
@cmann, I fully agree. The Ahmadis' contribution to Pakistan is immense and we should protect them as our citizens. This was not about that. This was about ridiculing Saim's argument.
aman ka tamasha. nobody is interesting in Peace between pk and India except Nawaz and modi and the Americans.
@W: in all nine students have been expelled , six local and three kashmiri.
@Zeeshan:
"Ahmadis are Pakistani citizens so shouldn’t they abide the law of this land? If they don’t, should we expel them?"
Not if the laws are discriminatory and take away their fundamental human rights to worship as they please.
@Zeeshan: Ahmadis are Pakistani citizens so shouldn’t they abide the law of this land? If they don’t, should we expel them? Ahmadis are the most law-abiding and innocent and docile people,and are being persecuted constitutionally.What happened to Kashmiris is also wrong ,but there is no comparison between the two cases.
@Sudhanhu Swami LOL! Hilarious but true words spoken.
@Muhammad Saim: No Need To Comment Any Further By Calling Kashmiris 'Indian Citizens' You Have Blown Your Cover Nice Try But Bad Luck LOL
@Zeeshan:Bro He Is Just An Indian False Flagger Who Has Blown His Cover
@Muhammad Saim,
"I am not concerned how India treats its citizens, yes, Kashmiris are Indian citizens and they must abide by the law of land and that’s what Islam teaches us."
Ahmadis are Pakistani citizens so shouldn't they abide the law of this land? If they don't, should we expel them?
@Professor,
You are a great example of Indian academics sitting in Indian universities who spew things like "civilization" and "invasion".
RELAX.... Modi will solve the kashmir problems PERMANENTLY in less than two years
@Zeeshan:
I am more concerned about my home, before I should criticize my neighbors I must put my own house in order, and I just quoted few example that shows how miserable is situation in our home, so lets take care of our own affairs and let India deal with its own citizens. We have a very shameful record on human rights and we must mend it before we can raise finger n others.
I am not concerned how India treats its citizens, yes, Kashmiris are Indian citizens and they must abide by the law of land and that's what Islam teaches us.
according to "Two reason Theory" any tiny or big wrong thing happen between two people and if one party is Muslim, then it is due to Anti Islamic sentiments by Indians or Hindus. Whatever the first and main reason may be !
@faisal: They were in Ghaziabad.nso clearly they are not averse to getting benefits in India.
@Naeem Khan Manhattan:
I personally deplore punishing anyone based on religion/state origin. If that happened then person(s) warden should be thrown out and punished.
But, Mr, Naeem, pls do not make up stuff just to prove your point. I think our countries (both of them) are not where close to the tolerance in the US, however:
Try going to a Raiders game wearing a 49rs jersey and see if you come out without couple of bruises.
..peace
This proves without a doubt that Indians never considered Kashmiri people as Indian and always considered us as Pakistanis. Indian claim to Kashmir becomes more untenable year after year as its atrocities against the Kashmiri people become known to the world.
Special thank you and love from Kashmiris to all our well-wishers in Pakistan. Looking forward to unity of Kashmir with Pakistan. In sha Allah.
@Francis Dsouza: One wrong doesn't make the other wrong acceptable. You Indians are full of hollow pride and ego. You continuously knowingly ignore the brutalities your state carry out on Kashmiris.
If you are such a proud indians, you should have enough guts to call wrong a wrong rather than trying to justify it with another wrong.
To clarify, there were a total of 9 students who were expelled and not just the four Kasmiri's. It doesn't say where the other five students were from, but it is safe to assume that they were not Kashmiri's. This has nothing to do with where the students hail from or religion. It appears it was more of a regular dispute that happens in hostels, and the authorities took the decision to ask 9 students to leave. This article was very selective in its reporting, to put it mildly.
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/nine-expelled-from-hostel-over-beating-up-of-kashmiri-student/
@Zeeshan: 67 years? We'll be there for a 1000 years if need be. You were not natives of Kashmir. We are. We'll NEVER give it up come what may. You guys are supposed to be Arabs (at least insofar as your "intelligentsia" claim), so you are welcome to leave for your ancestral lands - we might even throw in a tent each as a mark of good faith.
@Zeeshan: The world certainly didn't start 4000 years ago. But civilization - as far as we know did. That still means that it is much, much older that what you lot are espousing. What Hindu empire? Hindus did not go invading lands and forcibly converting the citizens. In fact, Hinduism has no concept of conversion. The Muslims certainly did all that. You took our lands and terrorized the native inhabitants for so long. Now maybe it is time to realize that your hold has slipped. It is time to slink back from whence you came. Good always triumphs in the end.
I am certainly convinced, that the creation of mankind was a curse to the planet.. Just look around you. Stupidity available in abundance.
Let us see but Modi has to say about it,now that he is the PM.Nothing,I guess given his track record.
@faisal:
"@ Jay: That’s what they say too. Leave their land and call your forces back."
Kashmir had been Hindu land for five thousand years before Muslims took over in the past two hundred years. Using your own logic and statement, why shouldn't the Hindus be justified to ask the Muslims to leave their ancient land? Extending this same logic further, Pakistan was Hindu land for thousands of years too. Why shouldn't Hindus demand that Muslims leave their ancient land?
I am not advocating that Muslim Kashmiris should leave Kashmir or that Pakistani Muslims should leave Pakistan, but just pointing out the flaw in your logic.
@Naeem Khan Manhattan,Ks: " ... It just shows how civilized people act towards each other and CIVILISED COUNTRIES accommodate dissent among it’s people. ... "
As always, your logic if flawed. What happened is no different from from what would happen, if in China, a Chinese raised slogans praising the Japanese.
@Mohamad Saim,
The expulsion of Ahmadi students should be condemned.
One should be outraged with the expulsion of Ahmadi students and Kashmiri students. Why didn't I hear a word from you regarding the expulsion of these Kashmiri students by Indians? If Ahmadis are expelled in Pakistan, imagine how much hate toward Pakistan you'll be pouring here. Why the silence? Only Ahmadis are humans and Kashmiris are your barricade to get a visa-free trip to India?
@Blunt: You badly need to read the following written by retired air-vice marshal of the Pakistan Air Force and served as its deputy chief of staff:
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9-254595-Field-and-tools-of-play
these hindu extremists know very well that with an extremist on the seat of PM, they can easily get away with these kind of crimes.nobody can touch them.few days ago,they killed a muslim student for having beard.india is a country where miniorities especially muslims are treated like animals.the day is not for away when indian muslims will start fighting for a separate homeland.
@Professor,
Arey Professor,
1) The world did not start with Mohenjo Daro and Harappa or 4000 years ago. Update your timeline. 2) Conquerors and invaders come and go including you Indians. Surely, Turkey and Iran cannot argue that India has been theirs since 10th century. 3) A sizable " Muslim minority" is now the overwhelming majority. Update your demographic data. 4) Religion come and go but only Hindus can call Kashmir, a Muslim dominated land, as a "Hindu" and "secular" land.
67 years and counting and you have to use guns and boots to conquer Kashmir. Arey professor, we don't want Kashmir. Only their azadi. Do you think your empire will last that long to strangle Kashmiris?
Collages in india used to expell students from hostel even from collage itself on variety of reasons. There is no hindu ...Muslim. .or Kashmir .. why give religious colour for every such incidence? If a Muslim beat a hindu in india should we blame Pakistan? These are simple internal matter of india.
I am so tired of Indians bragging about their country and democracy here in Kansas, expelling students from hostel for supporting Pakistani cricket team, it is so pathetic, speaks for their tolerance and democracy. My grand daughter supports University of Kansas at Lawrence vehemently but wants to go to Kansas State University Manhattan,Ks. to become veterinary doctor, K-State has the best veterinary medical College in the nation if not world. Although there is intense rivalry between the these universities but no one could be penalized for supporting any university or their athletic teams. Of course she will be staying at university dorm( hostel).It just shows how civilized people act towards each other and CIVILISED COUNTRIES accommodate dissent among it's people.
@Professor: Actually most Kashmiris have more in common with average Pakistanis as far as culture, language, religion, traditions and even history are concerned, than they have in common with average Indians. So your argument of Kashmir being attached to India is trashbin propaganda espoused by Indian nationalists.
You forgot to mention that 8 more students from other states of India were expelled too in connection with the same incident...naughty boys!
@Harinder S: They should go to KP or NWFP for the education they need. You know nothing about Pakistan, but commeting here just like expert. You have no idea that KP and NWFP are (new and old) names of the same place. @sharma The tribune is totally biased news paper. Then what you're doing here my dear. Why don't you go and just watch some bollywood crap. :p
India getting Modi-fied for minorities.
If you feel so much for them, why dont you call your Muslim kashmiris to Pakistan? We will call back all our kashmiri Hindus back.@Jahangir Chauhan:
Now when this is happening in the heartland of Pakistan, Punjab, where students in medical colleges and other institutions belonging to the Ahmadi faith are asked to leave, or banned, or expelled, where is Media crying about injustice.....NO WHERE....
These are not madrassas. They should go to KP or NWFP for the education they need.
@faisal: You need to learn some history. Here's a headsup for you: 1. The world did not start 1200 years ago. 2. Kashmir has been with India since the dawn of civilization of nearly 4000 years. 3. Islam came to Kashmir when the Muslim invaders converted a sizeable section of the population. 4. Religions come and go. It does not mean it suddenly becomes your land.
If you still want Kashmir, you are welcome to take it. If you can.
Kashmiri students expelled from indian hostel? So you assume Kashmir is not a state of the indian union. I dont think think it is for the tribune to decide which state belongs to which country. I dont remember the people of india voting "the web desk" into the government.
tribune is biased agreed by a Pakistani
International NGOs have always bemoaned that Pakistani media had become propaganda tools. This half-true story presented by the Express Tribune merely confirms this perception. Why is there no mention of the stern action taken by the authorities against those responsible for the student fight? Why is there no mention also of the real cause -- don't just say they were beaten because they were Kashmiris and please don't use a photo that is of four Kashmiris who were shouting inflammatory anti-India slogans during a cricket match -- which is that the Kashmiri students were provocative while the students were preparing for their exams when you need quiet and peace to study? Finally, why do Pakistani authorities sweep everything under the rug after desecration and destruction of Hindu and Sikh minority temples, Churches, etc. and why do newspapers like the Express Tribune (which professes to pursue "fair, objective and honest journalism") never question the authorities on their failure to pursue such cases of carnage?
@sharma
Yes. UNLIKE Times of India, Indian express, NDTV, Zee TV....:->
@anshul "Be ready for Baluchistan" That's called hazaron khwahishen asee k... BTW you better be ready for first Kashmir and then Khalistan.
How many more examples one needs to observe before realizing the true face of largest 'demoCRAZY' in the world.
@Jahangir Chauhan: dream on dude for kashmir but it cost u know. Remember east pakistan almost 50% population, land, economic importance in south asia gone :p be ready for balochistan see how India making strategic move in Afganistan. Better wake up see ground realities. Economic HDI, Diplomatic, Military all index india going northward and our west neighbour? ;)
@all Before you begin your sermons on 'Kashmiri Rights', please read Muhammad Saim's response.
As they say, those who stay in Glass Houses - - - - :) :)
By the way, please note - More Muslims are killed by fellow Muslims every week in the Land of Pure than in a whole decade in India. Don't believe me??? Please ask Google Baba or read your newspapers daily..
For some extra masala, try googling phrases like - "Casualties of Bomb blasts in Mosques" etc
Cheers!!!
@Zeeshan: How about Pakistani colonization and brutal oppression of Baluchistan and so called AJK? How about the wanton slaughter of Bengalis in 1971? How about the insidious ethnic cleansing and forced conversions of Hindus and other minorities. How about the ceaseless slaughter of Shias and the persecution of Ahmedis? Clean up your house first before lecturing others.
There is nothing less acceptable for Kashmir people but full independence from brutal forceful occupation of Bharat. Period!
HOLD ON please.....before starting India bashing, look at mirror:
At least 10 students, including seven girls, and a female teacher were expelled from Chenab Public School and Muslim Public School, Dharanwali area of Hafizabad, for being Ahmadis. (http://tribune.com.pk/story/269390/ahmadis-expelled-from-school/)
Professor Dr Asghar Ali Randhawa, Principal of Punjab Medical College rusticated 15 Ahmadi women students and 8 men students from the college as well as hostels on June 5, 2008. Four of the women students were in the final year of their studies (Dawn June 8, 2008) (http://www.dawn.com/news/669566/ahmadis-the-lightning-rod-that-attracts-the-most-hatred)
An Ahmadi student from Lahore (Punjab) was expelled from her university (COMSTAR - writer) in her senior after she was accused of blasphemy. (http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Lahore:-Ahmadi-student-expelled-on-false-blasphemy-charges-23280.html)
and the list is too long for this space....
@Francis Dsouza:
All of those fake aman ki asha should see the real face of India for minorities reflected by your comment. And then you come to tell Pakistan about minority rights.
@sharma: because they just want to spread hatred!
The tribune is totally biased news paper. There were 12students who were given punishment. why not talk about other 8Indian students who too were punished
@ Jay: That's what they say too. Leave their land and call your forces back. Kashmir wasn't and won't be your part. You think carrying out their genocide will bring you any good?
@Zeeshan: Good point.
@Francis Dsouza,
What kind of Karma will you be facing for supporting Indian colonization Kashmir and killing Kashmiris?
@Jay: Show some more sensitivity on this issue! Your fellow Indians are spreading hate!
Well they deserve it. We have no place for Pro-Pakistan people in our country. I am upright and very clear on this idea.
4 Kashmiri students got expelled? This is nothing compared to their expelling of 300,000 Kashmiri Pandits from their homes and lives. Karma coming back to bite them!
Indian universities are full of thugs.
@Saad: Agreed!
I feel sorry for my fellow Indians there in the hostel and it means kashmiris. I am a Sikh and a minority too but kids are kids. The seniors should help their juniors, not rag them. Rab rakha
Indian brutalities on Kashmiri people is extremely condemnable.
How can they expel students without providing any reason? Why not expel those goons who harrassed them in the first place?