“The degree of difficulty and reluctance South Asians face in befriending people of other countries in the region, especially India and Pakistan is unfortunate,” novelist, translator and poet Vikram Seth said on Friday.
Seth was addressing the opening session of the Lahore Literary Festival on Friday. Visitors poured in throughout the hour long session. Much to the surprise of audience, the session titled The Suitable Duo began five minutes ahead of its schedule. The session was moderated by Nasreen Rehman and stylised to feature recitations of his own work. The conversation webbed into a dialogue - a very candid dialogue.
Describing his friendship with Rehman, Seth said he was lucky to be friends with Rehman, also his host during his stay in Lahore for the LLF. Seth discussed his observation that people from various South Asian countries often found it hard to be friends. “It is unfortunate that you can’t be friends with Pakistanis easily if you are an Indian and vice versa...unless of course you are abroad.”
Seth read excerpts from The Golden Gate - a tale set in the 1980s’ San Francisco, An Equal Music and from his 1,349 pages long novel A Suitable Boy, published in 1993. The recitations were interrupted frequently due to the noise in the hall, till Seth himself had to intervene.
On Seth’s translations, Rehman asked how he had stumbled upon the art of translation. Seth said the works of an 8th century Chinese poet had motivated him to study Chinese. Even though translations sometimes failed to reflect prose and its nuances the way its parent language did, there was no other choice. “Translation is the only means to access literary works in other languages,” he said.
Reading a Chinese poem from his book, Three Chinese Poets, translated from the works of poets, Li Bai, Du Fu and Wang Wei, Seth said he was compelled to translate the poems for reasons unknown to him. He also recited his poem Host, inspired from George Herbert’s Love.
Seth’s recitation of his poem Small Things - For Papa on his 90th birthday, with references to his father’s cufflinks and watch, both of which he was wearing at the time, was the most moving part of the session. He received warm applause for that.
“I was born after the partition and am post colonial by definition,” he said, “But that does not mean that colonial remnants are not evident in the works, words and lives of, not just our parents’ generation, but even ours.”
The sequel of A Suitable Boy, titled A Suitable Girl, is expected to come out soon. He said even though most of the characters are brought forward in the sequel, one of the protagonists of the original book, Lata - now in her 80s - has also changed.
Seth concluded the session by discussing humanity and love. For Seth, religion of birth is but a pure chance, as is being born in this world. “Let us just hope that if we cannot eschew hatred we can at least eschew group hatred.”
Published in The Express Tribune, February 22nd, 2014.
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Pakistanis & Indians being friends!!!!
I'm not sure. From a distance - you keep to your side of the fence while we keep to ours, maybe. As long as there is no talk about India grabbing Pakistan or Pakistan grabbing India.
From a far distance, maybe. But definitely not more than that.
Let's also make it clear. Any one - whether it is a Muslim in India or it is Arundhati Roy or Mr. Seth who thinks Pakistan is a better place to be in is very welcome to migrate. I think there are very very few Muslims who think they have any chance of thriving in Pakistan.
It's ironic since Pakistanis and Indians should naturally be quite compatible - there are many Muslims of Punjabi, Pathan, Baloch and Sindhi origin living in India, and in fact some Pakistanis (like myself and most other Mohajirs) are only one generation removed from mainland Indians.
The problem is that the narrative that the Pakistani establishment has chosen to follow requires anti-Indian sentiment to justify Pakistan's existence. Certain Indian politicians also have a strong anti-Pakistani narrative, but thankfully it's limited to the far right fringe in India, while anti-Indianism is the mainstream narrative in Pakistan. Until this narrative is abolished and replaced with a new, non-hostile one, Pak-India relationships will remain strained.
Mr.Seth should translate Chinese novels to Indian languages like Hindi and others like Tamil,Telugu,Odia etc . It's interesting to learn from a old culture like Chinese . At the same time , we should translate our regional novels to Hindi and English to let World know our ancient culture. And lastly we don't want friendship with Pakis.
Simple reply: No
for all the indians commenting on our websites regularly, we know you hate us and believe me, we feel no different about you. on one hand, you consider us the worst humans, and on the other, you just cannot stop commenting on our websites. get a life and go to your own news websites. why can you just not start your day without commenting on our websites. all your doing by commenting here is spreading more hatred. get a life and get lost.
@Ayesha: I am Pakistani and my Husband is Indian. We met in university of Chicago.
India is not a Muslim country.India is owned by a line, the line of Bharata.And we can safely tell you, we dont have anything in common.Yeh, Jutts are common to both Pak and India, they are seen as migrants here, but make the majority of the Pak population.What common culture?not even a common language.We are accepting of Indian Jutts, because the migrants live here and at least they are not Muslim.We cannot accept Muslim Jutts(Doubly Whammy).But there is nothing wrong in marriage or a union between individual people, like in your case. But we dont want to hear suggestions of false culture, false unity and a imagined comeback by Pakistan, simple because we dont want to dilute our culture with Arab or Jewish ways of life.Chicago?? very different from mainstream India.Usually, migrants who leave India are from the lower middle classes and we have lots to export..that does not convey the actual picture of India or perhaps not even Pakistan.
I don't think so. There's way too much distrust. Kargil and Mumbai have taken their toll. I know it won't happen in this generation or the next. It will take a long time to claw back the pre-1999 level of trust - which wasn't much to begin with. Then again, you never know what seismic changes may be in the offing. New geo-political developments could change everything.
No Thank you. India has nothing to gain from this friendship with a nation of double-crossers. Pakistan has nothing tp offer India other than jihadis. We definitely can live without that one thing. Americans learned it the hard way what is the real meaning of friendship with Pakistanis. We don't have to relearn the same lessons.
@ Ayesha, The common culture and values you have mentioned, may either be that of Indian heritage, or it may be the one of the (Saudi) Arabian culture and heritage, that many Pakistanis and Indian Muslims identify with ... which one do you guys belong to ... ??
Wait a minute. I thought we were too busy making enemies with each other. Where and how did the notion of friendship come from? Let's leave peace and friendship to the educated, free, secular and humble. We have other priorities to focus on. Zindabad.
Pak-India relations
So long as India keeps Kashmir under her illegal and UN Security Council-rejected occupation of parts of Jammu and Kashmir against the will of the Kashmiris and in violation of UN resolution, there can't friendship between Pakistan and India. The latter is usurper of Kashmiris political and self-determination rights in Kashmir; The thus far non-resolution of Kashmir impasse is the direct result of New Delhi's arrogance, inconsistency, intransigence; India usurped Juna Garh, Mongrol, Muvadar - all States acceded to Pakistan but India took possession of them by military means in 1947-48. The cases are pending in UN Security Council; India and Indians are non-believable phenomena.
Pakistan has a predisposition to friendship, its not possible. They're only either servants or saboteurs or a combination of the two.
I am Pakistani and my Husband is Indian. We met in university of Chicago. What is wrong in it. We have common culture, language and values.
Everyone who wants to be friend with anyone will become friends. Everyone who does not want to become friend with anyone will not have any friend. We all should look at those we who have migrated from this part of the world possibly a century ago to places like Kenya how do they live. All of those who have migrated from this part of the world are alwyas together in taking part in their best way to celebrate Eids, Divaalee or any other festival etc whether they are Hindoos, Muslims, Sikhs etc.. In South Africa it was the influential Muslims who felt honoured to have a highly educated man i.e Mohandas Karamchund Gaandhee amongst them and felicitated him. They all worked together to better their lot, more so in the face of the Fascist regime of white South Africans. It is not only that one can see more often than not, that two people who were deep friends while abroad are no more once they have returned to this part of the world. So let us all ask as to what is wrong with this part of the world. Air? Water? The Soil? No. It is the people. Yes the people. People who claim to belong to the religion what their deeds do not testify their claim to be true. We all need to reform ourselves if we ever want to live in peace. Hindoos need to become Hindoos and Muslims need to become Muslims. In their deeds. Yes in their deeds or else no peace.
yes.....but pen friends.
Why publish such a serious and literary piece and throw it to the commoners and trolls???
True friendship is only possible between free humans.
Free humans are above nationality, ethnicity, religion or racist mania...............and free of fears of physical contacts with (Achoots, Shudras, Churas etc).
lol
The simple answer is no ... ! ... the simple reason being, in order to be friends, Pakistan and India must first bury the hatchet and be normal neighbours for some time ... Until the first thing happens, it is useless to speculate about the next ...
Two individuals, an Indian and a Pakistani , can be friends , only as long as they do not bring their religious identity into friendship and accept that friendship and humanity is above any religious identity and say so clearly and act accordingly.
Once Pakistanis get secular , Afterwards friendship will be feasible..
Nope, I don't think so.....
Undecided.