Concerned over LoC violations, Kayani proposes impartial UN investigations

Published: October 11, 2013
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COAS General Ashfaq Kayani. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

COAS General Ashfaq Kayani. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

RAWALPINDI: Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani said on Friday that the accusations made by the Indian military against Pakistan Army were unfortunate, unfounded and provocative, and that Pakistan’s restraint should not be exploited for levelling baseless allegations that harm prospects of peace.

According to a press release issued by Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR), the comments of the Indian Army Chief alleging that Pakistan Army and Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) supported a recent militant insurgency in Keran sector of Indian administered Kashmir, were described by Kayani as unfortunate, unfounded and provocative.

The army chief said that he was concerned about the continued violations along the Line of Control from across the border. He proposed that India should reciprocate Pakistan’s suggestion of holding either a joint or an impartial investigation, preferably by the United Nations, into the LoC incidents.

“Pakistan Army was exercising restraint but the same should in no way be used as a pretext for leveling such baseless allegations that vitiate prospects of regional peace.”

Addressing a group of officers at General Headquarters, the COAS reiterated that the Pakistan Army was fully supportive of the peace process initiated by the government.

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  • Nadir
    Oct 11, 2013 - 7:42PM

    Why dont you pick up the phone and speak to your counterpart in India. All problems will solve themselves.

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  • SKChadha
    Oct 11, 2013 - 7:46PM

    Whether Kayani understand the meaning of ‘Simla Agreement’?

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  • ModiFied
    Oct 11, 2013 - 7:50PM

    Let UN monitor the whole Pakistan including Baluchistan to find out if India is involved. Indians know what type of game Pakistan wants to play on LOC. There is no way India will let you succeed.

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  • Selvam
    Oct 11, 2013 - 7:51PM

    Same old, same old from the Pakistani army top. Broken record.

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  • Kashmiri Pakistani
    Oct 11, 2013 - 8:01PM

    Indian *Occupied Kashmir.

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  • OMG
    Oct 11, 2013 - 8:06PM

    India will never agree to holding an impartial investigation because of the fear that the entire world will know India’s true face.

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  • Dr Dang
    Oct 11, 2013 - 8:18PM

    “Pakistan Army was exercising restraint but the same should in no way be used as a pretext for leveling such baseless allegations that vitiate prospects of regional peace.”- Kayani

    The whole world knows who is exercising peace.This is a very dangerous game the Pakistani establishment is playing. Please stop running with the hare & hunting with the hounds.

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  • faizaan
    Oct 11, 2013 - 8:21PM

    We need a new chief, who is pro-active in dealing sternly with our neigbours(and not letting them externally support all these networks-just yesterday they caused 4 bombs).

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  • Kafir
    Oct 11, 2013 - 8:23PM

    More peaceful overtures from the most peaceful army which does not use “non-state actors” of the most peacefullest country in the whole universe which practices quietest peacefulness religion. Peace
    Peace om shanti
    Even visiting this Pakistani website gives peace.

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  • saad
    Oct 11, 2013 - 8:38PM

    @OMG agree with you 100% india real face will be exposed when UN carry out impartial investigation.Recommend

  • Green
    Oct 11, 2013 - 8:42PM

    How nice of Kayani to ask the UN to come AFTER the militants finished their 15 day incursion into Jammu,fighting the indian forces.
    Send militants,finish the incursion,take back the survivors AND THEN call the UN.
    Why didn’t anyone from the Pak govt. go to the Loc WHILE the indians were battling the incursion by the terrorists ? For 15 days,pakis were sitting cozily & enjoying the luxury if denying ‘baseless’ allegations ! Everythings wrapped up now & now Kayani wants to cry wolf…convenient.Recommend

  • jg
    Oct 11, 2013 - 8:47PM

    so many indian trolls.are you hurt by listening to truth. becasue i can see acomplete blackout of these recent violations by indian media.

    simla is not on pakistani cards. indians are really scared of letting the truth out to the world if UN gets involved.they are so good in making bollywood type stories every time an indian/hindu dies.well the world are also fedup with these bedtiem stories now.

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  • Raj - USA
    Oct 11, 2013 - 8:49PM

    @OMG:
    No investigation, inquiry or Commission has any meaning when Pakistan in involved. Pakistan wants UN investigation only to buy time. No Commission set up by Pakistan, be it the civilian government or military has ever produced any report, be it Liaquat Ali Khan’s murder, Zia’s murder, Chandio Commission on forced conversion of hindu girls or memogate or Abbottabad Commission. Pakistan itself refused joint investigation on the Salala incidence. We have seen how Pakistan is investigating the terrorists of Mumbai attacks who are in its own custody but roaming about freely and even the Punjab government funding them for their activities.

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  • Vasan
    Oct 11, 2013 - 8:52PM

    Omg : like the salala incident ? Right ?

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  • Raj - USA
    Oct 11, 2013 - 8:58PM

    @Kashmiri Pakistani:
    Your dreams evaporated when Dr. Fai was arrested and sent to prison and when Lord Nazir had to confess that he has a “Twisted Mind”. In the 80’s India was siding with the Soviet block and so the West and USA supported Pakistan. Now, there is no Russia, India and USA have become “Natural Allies” things have changed. Also China also does not want any trouble from India that would stand in its way of gobbling Pakistan. Ask China to support Pakistan on Kashmir and table a UN resolution, or at the minimum condemn India in UN or anywhere; and you will see the response.

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  • Brown Eagle
    Oct 11, 2013 - 9:01PM

    Pakistan has UN observers on its side, what have they said so far?

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  • Green
    Oct 11, 2013 - 9:02PM

    @ OMG
    @ Saad
    Entire world will know whose true face ? You mean different from the ‘true’ face of the CREDIBLE,reputable country that told the world that Bin laden was NOT sheltered in Pakistan ?
    How ‘true’ are your pak military leaders,who were hosting the world’s greatest terrorist & lying to the American’s (who’s aid money you take,by the way..biting the hands that feed you )
    True face ….lol ..Recommend

  • Green
    Oct 11, 2013 - 9:06PM

    @ OMG
    @ Saad
    Entire world will know whose true face ? You mean different from the ‘true’ face of the CREDIBLE,reputable country that told the world that Bin laden was NOT sheltered in Pakistan ?
    How ‘true’ are your pak military leaders,who were hosting the world’s greatest terrorist & lying to the American’s (who’s aid money you take,by the way..biting the hands that feed you )
    True face ….lol ..

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  • Indian
    Oct 11, 2013 - 9:17PM

    Look at his face. so innocent.

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  • Anonymous
    Oct 11, 2013 - 9:18PM

    More Indians than Pakistanis on Tribune.

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  • Oye
    Oct 11, 2013 - 9:21PM

    @ Jg

    So many indian trolls are better than so many pakistani terrorist sponsors ..

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  • Oye
    Oct 11, 2013 - 9:22PM

    @ Jg

    So many indian trolls are better than so many pakistani terrorist sponsors …

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  • vikram
    Oct 11, 2013 - 9:25PM

    Didn’t someone very recently say that taking a dispute to a third-party is soooooo ‘dehati aurat’ ?

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  • Pakistani
    Oct 11, 2013 - 9:26PM

    @Indians
    Indian government has discovered the world’s biggest site for generating electricity from Biogas. The site is the LOC and the source are the Indian army personnel who do the needful every time Pakistan Army retaliates.

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  • gaurav
    Oct 11, 2013 - 9:43PM

    Get ready for another international humiliation of Pakistan. As Sharif is back hence military mulla alliance is on the rise,do whatever but always remember that in 1971 a mass surrender of 93000 soldiers happened(max in modern history). Your assets of 1989 are killing you and you people didn’t even took bodies of your soldiers…dont play the game which you don’t understand.

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  • unbelievable
    Oct 11, 2013 - 9:43PM

    Kayani is learning from experience – Pakistan lost all credibility after the Salala incident when he refused offer of joint investigation

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  • Last Word
    Oct 11, 2013 - 9:44PM

    Gen Kayani, please have a heart to state that India is putting baseless allegation on a massive infiltration attempt in Keran sector from across the LoC and its army was fighting the aliens for 15 days which left 8 militants dead and large quantity of arms and ammunition recovered from the area of operation. We Indians would greatly appreciate if cross-border terrorism which is going on for several decades is immediately stopped so that peace is restored in this region. Merely issuing denials won’t suffice as the same has become outdated as the whole world knows the truth and backs India since Pakistan which has been exposed several times lost its credibility long time back. ET kindly don’t block this comment.

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  • maula
    Oct 11, 2013 - 9:48PM

    @OMG:
    i agree let us invite third party like UN to investigate balochistan and indias role there.

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  • gp65
    Oct 11, 2013 - 9:51PM

    ETBLOGS1987

    @Saad
    @OMG

    This trick of geting UN involved in Kashmir is going to go nowhere. As far as impartial investigations do tell us did Abbotabad commission identify who was responsible for facilitating OBL’s stay in Abbotabad? What about Saleem Shehzaad investigation? Did your army and PM not claim initially during Kargill that Pakistan army was not involved – even going to the extent of not accepting dead bodies of Pakistani soldiers for proper burial? With such great confidence in impartial UN reports, why did you not let them come to Balochistan? Why did you not go that route for Salala? Have you completed investigation on who in Pakistan was involved in 26/11 if not HAfiz Saeed?Recommend

  • R. Subramanian
    Oct 11, 2013 - 10:10PM

    Based on Gen. Kayani’s words its clear Pakistanis does not have basic human values in their life. Can Pakistan tell one incident where Indian Army or any Indian citizen(the so called non state actors) crossed over to Pakistan killed anyone but Pakistan never hesitates to cross over to India and kills innocent people and our Army Jawan… in this situation either UN or any other third party involvement will NOT bring peace to the region. Pakistan should understand one thing killing Indian people is not going to bring anything to Pakistan apart from anger and hatred from India. As a Indian our only expectation is LIVE AND LET LIVE…. nothing else we don’t want friendship with Pakistan at the same time we don’t want fight with Pakistan.

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  • Californian Desi
    Oct 11, 2013 - 10:13PM

    @OMG: Rest assured it will be Pakistani’s true face which will come out. Such bravado by Pakistanis are common since they know India would not do anything to internationalize this issue. Even after signing Simla agreement Pakistan is wasting all it’s energy to internationalize the kashmir issue and have terribly failed so far. This is another doomed attempt by Pakistani General. Pakistanis are just to naive to understand this. But well, whatever makes u sleep happily.

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  • R. Subramanian
    Oct 11, 2013 - 10:15PM

    If I have a magic power I want to split Pakistan from Asia and put it in the middle of a ocean so that Pakistan won’t have any neighbor to give trouble, so that Pakistan neighbors Afghanistan, India and rest of the world will be peaceful and happy. Especially South Asia will be happy forever without Pakistan

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  • Sen
    Oct 11, 2013 - 10:19PM

    We Indians demand independent investigation in Balouchistan too. Kayani must have thought Indians are naive to not see through this game.

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  • lkhan
    Oct 11, 2013 - 10:32PM

    What has Salala to do with this incident? The Americans apologised eventually for bombing a Pakistan border post, killing many soldiers – a dastardly act – the retaliation of the Government of Pakistan in closing its roadways to Afghanistan in itself showed how seriously our people reacted to the unwarranted hostility. Also, someone has spoken of Kayani’s physique – may I say he is a perfectly handsome man unlike many others in his position! There is no innocence that I can see….

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  • lol in Liverpool
    Oct 11, 2013 - 10:58PM

    Too many trolls from the east. Thats why this web page’s complexion gone dark. I think you lot are cousins of africans. I sometimes cant tell the difference between our eastern neighbours and people from nigeria

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  • np
    Oct 11, 2013 - 11:31PM

    @lkhan: “What has Salala to do with this incident? The Americans apologised eventually for bombing a Pakistan border post, killing many soldiers – a dastardly act – the retaliation of the Government of Pakistan in closing its roadways to Afghanistan in itself showed how seriously our people reacted to the unwarranted hostility.”

    Per Americans, infiltrators into Afghanistan were being provided cover fire from Pakistani side (very similar to the Indian allegation) which led to Salala. Kayani did not agree to a joint investigation or a UN led investigation in case of Salala but suddenly trusts UN now. THAT is the relevance of Salala. Incidentally, the US did not apologize – they merely conveyed regret. Hillary spoke of ‘errors on BOTH sides which were to be regretted’. US did not comply with ANY pre-conditions put forward by Parliamentary Committe on National Security unanimously for reopening the transit route – yet Pakistan reopened the route because it desperately needed coaliation support funds. What is indeed cowardly is that not one PAF plane flew to defend its soldiers who were bombarded for 2 hours.

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  • Zen.One
    Oct 11, 2013 - 11:47PM

    @gp65:
    @Indian:
    @Green:

    Indoctrination through media is a big thing in this global village. Heard of the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, before the US attacks. All proved lies. Obama used the pseudo capture and killing of Osama as a souvenir and a trophy, before the elections, going for the second term.
    Here is what Seymour Hersh(Seymour Hersh won the Pulitzer Prize for exposing the My Lai massacre during the Vietnam War), have said about this one big lie about Osama.

    http://swampland.time.com/2013/09/27/new-yorkers-seymour-hersh-bin-laden-raid-one-big-lie/#ixzz2hRLZnSgK

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/u-s-raid-bin-laden-compound-big-lie-journalist-seymour-hersh-claims-article-1.1470962

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  • Californian Desi
    Oct 12, 2013 - 12:01AM

    @R. Subramanian: I would use that power to put Pakistan on planet Saturn. Farther they are from rest of the world the better :)

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  • Zen.One
    Oct 12, 2013 - 12:10AM

    @R. Subramanian:
    I can cite you one incidence of Indian crossing into Pakistan disguised as tourist. Sarabjit Singh was involved in a bombing which killed 20 people in Lahore, Pakistan.
    And what about the Indian Army crossing into then East Pakistan and helping the Mukti Bahni in the fall of Dacca(Details can be researched). You can easily come up with the idea that they (India) just helped them in the liberation struggle. One country’s liberators are another country’s traitors or terrorists. A case in point is the freedom fighters/traitors or terrorist fighting in Kashmir.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/545058/sarabjit-singh-was-a-raw-agent-indian-report/

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  • Patriot Pakistani
    Oct 12, 2013 - 12:30AM

    @R. Subramanian:

    Trust me, if a common Pakistani man is given super powers, then he too will not want to have India as its neighbor. The feeling of hatred is mutual my friend. We do not like to have India’s constant interference in our affairs.

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  • Zen.One
    Oct 12, 2013 - 12:47AM

    This is a bit off-subject in context. Don’t consider this as a riposte or a rebuttal to any post/comment.This will help in any future discourse/dialogue with our Indian friends.

    Here is an interesting link i came across few days back.

    http://usindiamonitor.com/2012/07/08/eye-opener-an-indian-american-visits-pakistan/

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  • someone
    Oct 12, 2013 - 12:49AM

    @lol in Liverpool:
    Well sir you just proved what a racist you are :) no wonder Pakistanis are treated badly across the world.

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  • Desi
    Oct 12, 2013 - 12:51AM

    Talibans are the next generation of Mujahideens raised together by US and Gen. Zia to quell the threat of USSR to get to warm waters. Their [Talibans/Mujahideens] manifestation in different forms is threatening Pakistan more than any other country today including India- be it LOC violations or Mumbai carnage, unfortunate though.
    For its own survival Pakistan MUST evolve a homegrown unified strategy to uproot terror in all its forms to bring peace to itself which consequently will help minimize freelance adventurism across LOC and its Eastern border.

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  • Arindom
    Oct 12, 2013 - 1:37AM

    Wasn’t this guy the same one who said “Osama is not here” a few days before Osama was captured a stone’s throw from where he said these words???

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  • rkfrom ny
    Oct 12, 2013 - 2:17AM

    there he goes again whining before UN or some other western power…!!

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  • gp65
    Oct 12, 2013 - 3:14AM

    @Zen.One: Sorry but your belief in the conspiracy theory related to OBL has nothing whatsoever to do with my post. It is also unclear why OBL’s wives corroborated the US story that OBL was killed and why Al Qaeda leadrship said that this death would be avenged?

    FInally if US made errors with its WMD claims that does not mean India’s claims about Kargill being carried out by Pakistan army were wrong. Nor does it prove that India started 1965 war. Nor does it disprove India’s claim that Pakistan had a well defined policy of infiltrating foreign mercenaries into India. All these issues which India claimed were denied by Pakistan at the time and now Pakistan leaders admit that India’s allegations were true. Thus you cannot discredit India’s allegations based on onetime error in US claim.Recommend

  • someone
    Oct 12, 2013 - 4:27AM

    @lol in Liverpool:
    Well the trolls from the east are in fact helping Tribune to earn some revenue from ads otherwise given the english speaking population and internet penetration in Pakistan, they can’t make much money by attracting advertisements.

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  • koshur_batta
    Oct 12, 2013 - 4:53AM

    when the americans wanted to setup a joint committee after salala, why did the pakistani army refuse to do so? Isn’t it hypocrisy at its best, that you refuse a Joint Task Committee but later preach India about it?

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  • R. Subramanian
    Oct 12, 2013 - 10:12AM

    @Zen.One: Sarabjit Singh’s is not a clear one, its a case of mistaken identity of Manjit Singh and our Sarabjit Singh was a poor farmer who was drunk and had strayed over the border… even though your Government (President Zardari) wanted to release him and also given the order for release but withdrawn due to the pressure from Pakistani Islamic groups. If he is a culprit means why your President pardoned and gave order to release him ????

    As far as 1971 war was concerned the fault was solely with Pakistan, first it did not accepted the Bangladesh people’s mandate second so many refugees started to come to India because of Paksitan army’s bad behaviour and above all Pakistan declared war against India, so India had no other option except to fight with Pakistan.

    After the declaration of war by Pakistan, then only India entered into Bangladesh.

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  • JSM
    Oct 12, 2013 - 1:00PM

    @OMG:

    The whole wold knows the truth. Please see the following link:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_SkNUorWhc

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  • lkhan
    Oct 12, 2013 - 3:10PM

    @np: If you google the event, the Pakistani soldiers were asleep at their check posts when attacked by US helicopters for one. Secondly, Clinton did NOT say both sides were to blame, but that mistakes were made, in her I repeat, apology as reported at the time in the US and Pakistani press as elsewhere.Thirdly, Kayani did not agree to a joint investigation as in a previous similar incident four Pk soldiers were killed, the joint investigation was a waste of time. Frankly, if Pakistan was shooting from its side, why were there no casualties on the Afghan side? This argument could continue eternally, you have your way of thinking, mine I have based on what I have read in from many sources….

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  • Hedgefunder
    Oct 12, 2013 - 3:50PM

    What is wrong with this Country ? Don’t they simply lack the basic understanding of their own undertaking of the Simla agreement !
    Why always jump on the UN band wagon ? Its obvious that these children have really not grown up much in last 60 years !
    Does Pakistan really think that UN and Global Community is blind and stupid !
    We all know as to Pakistan’s conduct and its duplicity in every manner possible !
    This Country has Zero Cred on Global Stage !

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  • Pk
    Oct 12, 2013 - 5:10PM

    @lol in Liverpool: How come you be so blatantly racist.
    @mods – do you have any standards?

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  • Oct 13, 2013 - 9:48AM

    When the TTP come knocking at Rawalpindi’s doorsteps the Indians across the LOC will seem much friendly.

    Pakistani Army is afraid to fight a rag-tag bunch of illiterate, tribal folk carrying AK-47s. That day will come soon when many Army installations will be attacked.

    Wait a minute! That has already happening!

    So, to summarise, you want to provoke a Million-strong Army to whom one has lost 4 times, at the same time want to talk to the Taliban, who threaten the very existence of Pakistan.

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  • lkhan
    Oct 13, 2013 - 12:44PM

    @Last Word: it is time both sides stop cross border interference. The Indians in Balochistan and Pakistan in Kashmir. Pakistan especially has enough problems on the terrorism front within its borders on which it should concentrate all its efforts before the situation worsens.. Even if one does not have access to the broad picture, wonders why India requires 22 consulates no less on the Baloch border in Afghanistan! It is time for peace in the region; such interference ought to be shelved through multi lateral treaties.

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  • Oct 14, 2013 - 9:32PM

    I simply can not come across a place here to order a subscribtion to “Letters in the Mail” for your gift or two and also for myself.
    It sounds like a wonderful idea and several of my buddies might be delighted to receive letters in the mail….
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