It was revealed that 5,893 votes were cast twice and 741 votes were not related to the area. PHOTO: AFP/FILE
Out of the 84,448 votes cast only 6,805 were verified.
Shortly after the NADRA report, the Election Commission of Pakistan issued a statement saying that the election tribunal will rule over the matter.
The NADRA report revealed that 5,893 votes were cast twice and 741 votes were not related to the area.
Moreover, there were 11,346 votes cast from 40 Computerised National Identity Cards.
Muttahida Quami Movement’s candidate Iqbal Muhammad Khan had won the elections in the constituency.
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf’s candidate Zubair Khan challenged the victory and filed a petition.
The Nadra report has been presented to the election tribunal council and its copies will be given to the candidates.
Returning officer and presiding officers will be summoned in court.
A similar incident had happened earlier in the NA-258 constituency in Karachi in which a report regarding thumb print verification of votes released by NADRA revealed that that only 2,400 of the total votes cast were genuine. The report also said that at least 1, 400 of the voters had cast their votes twice.
PML-N’s candidate Abdul Hakim Baloch had won in this area with a total of 51,148 votes cast for him.
His victory was challenged by the Pakistan Peoples Party candidate Abdur Razzaq Raja.
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Very bad reporting. If our print media is not resposible when it come to reporting facts, what you can expect from politicians.
Everyone, please go read the news again, the votes are not fake, but the ink was not proper.
Who shall be blamed.......
The pwerful people of Marusi Siasat, trying to supress the movement of 98% people which is called MQM.
The people of Pakistan will win over such forces soon, IA.
Khan
sir imran khan was right AGAIN
Nadra has clearly mentioned in its report that due to the quality of paper and non-magnetic ink used in elections these 57,642 votes are "unverfiable". Also acting Additional Secretary ECP has admitted mismanagement by ECP staff which led to this scenario (http://e.jang.com.pk/10-09-2013/karachi/pic.asp?picname=1815.gif) I have following questions, answer from any one will be welcomed:
1. Out of 57,642, how many votes have been cast in favour of PTI and how many in favour of MQM ? 2. Counterfoils of these 57,642 votes contain CNIC numbers of voters. Can in the presence of these CNIC numbers these votes be declared as "bogus" ?
I suggest that MQM take up this matter as a life or death matter and go to every legal extent to save Karachi's mandate and foil the attempts by media and opponents to deprive Karachi of its political liberty.
@pk Why Afghans be allowed to vote? in Khi elections, were they the one castig bogus votes? in favor of PTI? last thing i remember ANP govt shifted the refugges camp 100 km away from Peshawar to stop crime etc, why in Khi we are so helpless? EC should have also pointed out which party bagged the maximum bogus votes? Its PML Nawaz in one of the disrict in khi bagging the highest bogus votes....
Nevertheless if rigged then re election should be announced by election commission. IK was suppose to sweep Punjab now so much fuss in Khi nevertheless lets some good come out of it.
Similar noise made before bye elections in NA 254 under the supervision of army where a soldier was present in every polling station and list verified by army itself: RESULT. Naeem of PTI 5000 votes yes five thousand and Rashid of MQM 52,000 votes………eek
Though one accepts the vote bank created by PTI in Khi for good order sakes lets stop calling voters of other party ghosts, cheaters or fraudulent this will only create conflict.
Lets not get into bias of good and bad, patriotic Unpatriotic, evil and angel, any Pakistani voter deserves the respect for the mandate he or she voted for.
@Sabih: And as per the report, only 6,800 votes were verified out of 84,000. This means that only 8% of the votes could be verified, PTI got 69,000 votes or 28% of the total votes cast. Where are you getting the remaining 72% of PTI’s votes?
Great work Sabi ! solid arguement.
@Khurshid: Your info is not correct. Almost 97% votes were casted for MQM. Pls once again check your source.
can anybody tell how many of these bogus votes were casted in favour of PTI? To the best of my knowledge more than 40 percent of these bogus votes were against MQM.
@Ahsan
Please go do the math your self. The 57,000 votes were the ones where the thumb impression could not be verified by the computer. That is because of poor quality of ink and paper provided by ECP which could not record the thumb prints properly. These votes all had a valid CNIC number so they are not necessarily fake.
In a free and fair election in Karachi under the army, PTI would not get more than 10,000 votes from NA 256.
And as per the report, only 6,800 votes were verified out of 84,000.
This means that only 8% of the votes could be verified, PTI got 69,000 votes or 28% of the total votes cast. Where are you getting the remaining 72% of PTI's votes?
Shame on MQM...ane the leaders who have the audacity to come on tv and deny rigging and give twisted explainations..shame ,shame ,shame..
Total failure of the election commission.
@Shahzad Khattak: Karachi mandate ? my foot.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/614616/explosion-in-peshawar-5-police-officers-dead-several-injured/#comment-1726969
Do something after getting KPK mandate. On foot
All these guys commenting are behaving as if they belong to some developed country and scorning at Karachi like europeans do at Pakistanis. Dear all its Pakistani brand elections not Karachi brand. You should pray this thump verification is not carried out all over Pakistan, including KPK
@Shahzad Khattak: Karachi mandate ? my foot.
KPK mandate. OK. Now go and at least protect polio workers. And please do not go on your feet, its urgent be quick !
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This report says 57,642 ballots could not be compared or matched through Nadra system because the fingerprints were of very poor quality seemingly due to a lack of essential properties of the ink and inkpad used in the process of balloting according to a leading english daily. 84,748 were cheked, if they are fake then what was happening on that day at those polling stations ? Was there any curfew imposed in this locality ? Was there a hush silence and only MQM workers were stamping ballots. Have you forgot by-elections under army supervision where other candidates even got their gauranty money forfeited ? What about polling stations where mpore than 100% were cast (including KPK) http://tribune.com.pk/story/549037/fafen-report-over-100-turnout-in-49-polling-stations/It is interesting to note the absence of very vocal and always unreasonable MQM apologists including Aysha M, Mrs Ahmed, and Uza Syed. Shedding conspiracy tears?
Hello,
Everyone is hating on MQM for rigging, but I need to point out that another exposed culprit is PML-N candidate.
Thank You
@ Sadaf: Isn't this what you people (assuming you are muhajir) always wanted? And you people call yourselves patriotic? Such a shame!
All these bogus votes were cast in favour of PTI.
@ people justifying with simple math that mqm had a margine of 'x' more votes than their opponent (after discounting the bogus vote). Well, it's clearly not the numbers my friends. It's about proving that the elections were rigged and we all know that the bogus votes is just one metric among many others to measure the massive rigging that took place on may 11th.
Can't khities get over fact that MQM is no longer the MOST popular party in khi and PTI is a force to reckon with!!
I wonder what Ms Ayesha M has to say about this????
PTI was a clear winner in karachi! They stole their mandate! Oh, and howcome I dont see Aysha M around here, somewhere?
Only 6,805 verified votes in NA256 ? thn how PTI 's Zubair Khan secured 67,797 votes from there? i guess Lahore and Peshawar votes should also be verified now.
To thise idiots asking to do tge maths and declaring it wiyld have no differenxe. For all those GENIOUS lamers the 57000+ fake votes were out of 84000 thousan votes that were checked a further 20000 votes were rendered bogus due to ECP ink not being used that makes it about 77000 votes out of 84000 votes being fakewhich comes down 92.9% fake votes .. No mqm apologists can do the maths perhaps :p ... I really cant beleive these guys can still moan about DEEWAR se lagaya ja raha hai .. Enough if this victim card. This FAKE mandate is just robbing us karachites who rejected mqm on 11th may
We are already certified degree holders in cheating which has been confirmed by those who matter most in the world, so no surprise if votes were snatched.
Also for people telling us to check our "maths" out of the 80000 votes CHECKED, 56000 were bogus. they didn't check the entire constituency.
Big conspiracy going on......looks like major players are trying to create a 1971 type situation in urban Sindh. 2014 will be a very destructive year for Pakistan, in which we could see the birth's of a Muhajir and Baloch Republic.
MQM must understand that with the mainstream and social media so active, it simply cannot go on as though this is 1999 or 2002. Things are different now. You cannot maintain an active armed wing, extortion wing and "thappa" mafia and then claim that all the allegations against you are false.
@Atif I. Malik..what about Lahore and Punjab and KP....
Read NADRA report page 5 article 30 - it says 57642 bad quality fingerprints howevers CNIC belongs to same NA 256 - SUCH AUR HAQ BOLNA SEKHO
If only 6,000 votes were verified, how did PTI get 69,000 votes?
PTI's true mandate got exposed in the bye elections when they could not even muster 6,000 votes in NA 254.
Ayesha M will find out something positive about this news also :p
"Yet another conspiracy against Muhajirs. I told you to prepare yourself for tough-times" MQM Cheif's upcoming statement.
Pakistan (1947) = Secular politicians + struggling establishment + independent citizens
Pakistan (1971) = Popular politicians + emerging establishment + patriot citizens
Pakistan (2013) = Corrupt politicians + over ambitious establishment + slave citizens
What went wrong????
One more proof that how elections were hijacked in Karachi. The bogus votes and fraud elections bring leaders who dont care about people, because they win not with people's support but rigging. Parties who use violence, politics of hate and militancy in Karachi to rig elections must be brought to books.Justice should be done!
@Siddiqui..disgusting....why only Karachi?why not entire Pakistan? No body can rob the mandate of Karachi...Judiciary of Iftikar ch.,failed....Army operation failed ,
Why so much hate against Mqm, no wonder why Pakistan is a failed state..because here in Pakistan every community has its own identity and they just want it to dominate. Btw.. What about the previous election results in this constituency,who won last time ?
@Siddiqui: Only thing thats deep and down is the respect that the people of NA 256 have for MQM.
Disgusted by ET to post the Comment of Siddiqui Earlier.
Now Ayesha M will cry over another conspiracy :P Poor MQM...Whiner party!!!!
This is not confined to Karachi. Just imagine if this happens in a metropolitan city what kind of elections take place in villages..
A lot is left to be exposed; NADRA come to Punjab and the numbers will be even greater
Karachi mandate ? my foot.
why no thumb verification ofKarachi NA250 and NA248?why Nadra not checking Lahore votes? Nadra should not targeted a particular city.... it should verify all the constituencies...
This constituency has a large Afghan votebank and you know they never vote for the Karachis party. This propagation of blame-game is sheer nonsense. No matter what, this seat is a MQM stronghold they will win it easily. What do you know it might turn out full Afghan's fake NIC turn out to be PTI votes. Rest assured apart from propaganda from few PTI trolls based on history MQM has this seat easily. Lets see and hear noise after outcome of report of what PS 114 say which MQM lost.
@Hasan: We all know MQM has no stronghold in reality . Strong hold with men on field yea , we can say that
Don't worry people. Downfall of MQM has started. It's just a matter of couple more elections and MQM will be completely wiped out from Karachi.
if this is democracy in pakistan where powerful and corupt politicians won the mandate so easily through tempering,then its better to live under the rule of army. These politicians look like another version of taliban
Now finger printing technology is conspiring against MQM!
@Hasan: MQM sucks and deep down inside you know it too.
http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2013-daily/07-10-2013/u11423.htm
Waiting for Ayesha M to justify this
Hakeem Baloch of PML-N was supported by gangster Uzair Baloch, Uzair Baloch in an interview by Shazaib Khanzada said that openly in express tv . Hakeem Baloch had support of gangsters to win the election.
Please ET don't censor my comment. Please
57,642 votes were bogus ??? In the 2013 elections MQM had got 151,788 votes while runner up PTI guy had got 69,072 votes making the difference of nearly 80000. Even if one assumes 'MQM had all got all the bogus votes' and we takes these 'votes' out they would still win easily. I hope the Nadra checks lahore records too.
Out of 57K odd bogus votes, 24K are accounted for. Express should tell the whole story as to why were the rest of the 33K were declared bogus?
I am saying this with a very strong warning to the masses of Pakistan.
Beware who you vote for and develop a habit of demanding full scrutiny if any untoward incident happen in any case or in any dept, be it road accident, be it printing of leaflets, tiniest bit it may be, but its worth it
.......WHY.......
because a monster alligator of Taliban / Extremism is lurking under our currents and the fairness, rule of law & respect are the only weapons that works best to tame this beast.
Hope you folks understand the point that I am trying to make.
may God Almighty help us all.
Good Job NADRA, Bravo concerned citizenry.
regards,
There are 4 more constituencies where thumb verification is going on in Karachi , lets see :)
No more fake mandate :)
100% verification should be done by Election Commission and all bogus representative should be banned from politics for ever.
MQM believes "Democracy is a true revenge", hence the rigging
8 votes per second. wow MQM voters are so fast. Shame on MQM and Altaf
shame on election commission. they should be penalized put them behind bars and seize their assets. real criminals of Pakistan
Probably few political parties must have send their own voters to cast bogus votes in NA-256 in order to damage the reputation of MQM in Karachi.
The Election Commission should declare the election result null and void and order re-election in NA-256 under the supervision of Army.
If MQM candidate is popular in the area, he will again win the NA-256 election.
So would the winner be disqualified now? This is one reason why IK was so openly asking to get the votes verified, and this is the reason why neither PMLN nor MQM were interested in this practice. This news could be surprising for those of you who are from other parts of the country, but me, like other Karachiites saw it happening in front of our eyes, and this news hardly comes as a surprise, though I am happy that the truth got revealed. But this truth wouldn't help until we see an action taken against the riggers. Whats the point of celebrating this democracy when we can't decide which party to rule the country. Democracy is for the people I heard, but in Pakistan its for the powerful, thats it!
The election commission has on record has said 'we have failed to conduct free and fair elections in Karachi' ( many electronic channels have this recording). The election result in Karachi should be declared null and void and just like by-elections, they should be conducted a new. Otherwise the result will have no moral, legal and lawful justification.
Do the Maths, even if they put all these bogus votes ( which are actually not bogus but not readable due to paper quality etc ) MQM still won that seat :)
@Zuhair: NO.He has turned deaf and completely blind as well. Previously he was partially blind.Could only see letter N. Hopefully will perish at the end of the year.
This is what happened in with PTI in recent elections. Same is the case in Punjab.
Needless to say MQM had 148 K Votes; Second in Lead was PTI with 67K Votes. Even it all fake votes were casted by MQM; thats still a sum of 92 K Votes to MQM. Only If all fake were casted by MQM; But why would MQM need to do that. NA 256 is its stronghold. PTI's desperation is laudable.
@PTI Supporter: Please someone call Mr. Ashtiaq the Secretary of Election Commission who denied rigging in election.
If you are going to verify all the votes by thumb prints, 90% will not match. Because, thumb verifcation on the bellot papper with the given ink is not a good input to to the system. If these thumb scans were done, the results given by NADRA would have been dependable. But in this case, ink spreads over the given location any most of the images are unreadable.
This happened in entire Pakistan. PTI won on bogus votes in KP PML N in Punjab PPP & PML F in interior Sindh.
This is how the so called democracy is in our country..PTI was a clean winner in Karachi and all over Pakistan....there was no question about it...is this the way you want to strengthen the democracy...the fake mandate...no sane Pakistani will believe in this democracy anymore...they were out from there houses first time by believing that there vote will be counted..it is a massive setback to the democratic process in Pakistan...shame on each and every institution and party involved in it..
The people of Karachi never gave MQM the mandate.
MQM snatched it from our bloodied hands!
Now we know how PTI lost elections! Saad Rafique and Ayaz Sadiq did the same.
"Karachi ka mandate."
If MQM has such a strong mandate - why the rigging?
@sharjeel: Even Sharjeel Memon knew it but never told
What analysts were saying about Karachi elections is confirmed by these facts. Even though the final outcome would have been in MQM's favor, the results would have been much closer than past elections. Shame on MQM for massive rigging.
This is what is happening in Pakistan the name of democracy. People votes have been challenged and manipulated. Mandate of the people has been robbed by the political parties and we celebrate democracy, with high level of inflation, devaluation of rupee, corruption and burden of taxes.
This is how "85% mandate" is managed in Karachi. Amazing. The current speaker of our National Assembly will meet the same fate if verification is done by NADRA.
Dear haters,
"Still I own Karachi and can burn it" Regards Bhatta and Thappa Mafia.
Well I saw them (you know who, voldermolt) casting hundreds of multiple of votes in NA-256 only a handful of CNICs
Bogus victory of MQM and still they propagate , they are popular. How long they can terrorize krachites.
In NA-258 NADRA reported that most finger prints could not be verified dure to poor quality of prints, not because they were fake. Responsible media should report accurately.
Free and Fair Elections...!!! hahahahahahahaaa....
Elections in Pakistan is a joke.
I knew it.
Namaloom Afraad ... Namaloom Vote ... when is this all going to end ??
Is Mr. Suo Moto listening?