This is a legitimate concern, but missed the entire point of my article and, more generally, tends to misunderstand the situation we face.
First, my article simply applied the fundamentals of negotiation theory to the situation, trying to lay down what it means to negotiate and how, given evidence, talks with the TTP might unfold. Reading a text is a practised exercise that must bear in mind the parameters of an argument. It’s not about wild swings of imagination.
A practised reader will not look into an article for what is not there or has been left out because it was or is not relevant to the framework. This does not mean that what has been left out is insignificant. For example, the question of how to solve this problem is not insignificant but was not immediately relevant to what it would mean to negotiate with the TTP. Of course, that question will pose itself as a next step, as it has. So here goes.
Let’s begin with a presupposition about talks. The not-so-hidden assumption here is that talks will fare better than the use of force. Going by the argument that the state has never tried talking to the TTP, this is, at best, untested. In other words, we do not know if talking will be a better option. We can only say that talking might be better which, as should be evident, immediately makes the proposition iffy.
A counterargument can be that even if this proposition is iffy, it offers a possibility which must be tested since the other option, the use of force, has already been tested and found wanting. Fair point, but there are two problems.
One, talking has been tested. There have been a number of deals, starting with the Shakai peace deal in South Waziristan in 2004 with Nek Mohammad. All the deals, except two — with the killed Mullah Nazir, and the still-alive Hafiz Gul Bahadur — were broken by the so-called Taliban.
Two, it is incorrect to aver that the use of force has done nothing to thwart the TTP. Imagine a scenario where no operations were conducted in the tribal agencies and there was no deployment of the army and FC in the area. Imagine also that the state had left the area at the mercy of the Taliban and al Qaeda elements and their affiliates. Does anyone think the agencies would be idyllic and everyone would have lived happily ever after?
Perhaps, but such a person would be in serious need of brain treatment. There’s nothing the TTP wants more than for the state to withdraw forces from the agencies. The why of this should be obvious: that’s the only way for the TTP to gain full control of the area. Not only would this be a terrible blow to the whole idea of the state’s writ, by abdicating its responsibility for controlling its own territory, the state would send out a signal to external powers that would also be disastrous for its external security.
Let me also here dispel a major misconception, generally promoted by uninformed media reporting. The Pakistani state has not deployed troops to the area for the first time. The present XI Corps was raised in 1975. Before that, Peshawar used to have one division (7 Division) which, since the British times, was part of the Northern Command based in Rawalpindi. The Northern Command HQ, after Independence, became the General Headquarters (GHQ) of the Pakistan Army. Until the raising of XI Corps, 7 Div was responsible for the defence of the area right up to the Afghan border in the tribal agencies of Bajaur, Mohmand, Khyber, Parachinar and North and South Waziristan, just like during the British period. When the corps was raised, another division (9 Div), based in Kohat, was added. This division’s elements were given responsibility for the southern tribal agencies and Frontier Regions (FRs).
During the Soviet invasion, the corps’ fighting elements were maintaining and manning Forward Defended Localities along the border. The fighting formations regularly trained and exercised in the tribal agencies. The Pakistan Air Force had also beefed up its presence and flew regular sorties in Fata. To say that the tribal Eden has suddenly been sullied by the presence of the Pakistan Army is, therefore, bollocks.
However, a concern remains. When these terrorist groups are squeezed in their havens, they strike in the cities. Countering urban terrorism is the other prong of Pakistan’s counterterrorism strategy, which has only been partially successful and is the area where the actual war will be fought, requiring a discriminate, nimble hand, not a sledgehammer. The fear factor in Pakistan, as also the fatigue, is because of population dislocations and terrorist acts in the urban centres of the country.
The solution is not talks — at this stage — that won’t walk but to strengthen the state’s capacity against urban terrorism. Talks will come, as they always do. That is precisely the reason for use of force or the threat of its use: to force the enemy into talking. But the lesson remains unchanged. Talks must be conducted from a position of strength.
Finally, those expecting a neat solution must despair their belief. Irregular wars and the combination of external and internal threats do not vanish easily or quickly. They take years to gestate and many more years to put down. The choice, therefore, is not between fighting and talking as two mutually exclusive binaries. They are intertwined. But the timing must be right. And the fight itself needs to be understood correctly in all its dimensions — urban terrorism being the most important to deal at this point.
Published in The Express Tribune, May 29th, 2013.
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Couldn't agree more. The concluding paras shall form the core of government policy on terrorism, i dare say.
@author and moderator, you did not publish my last comment that talks will fail even if IK/NS talk to TTP. My prediction has proven - TTP has withdrawn after the killing of there deputy. Since they did not put down weapons/did not agree for truce, So killing of the deputy was legitimate anyway. But withdrawing of talks was what they wanted always. SO, will u publish this.
@Green Tiger: Right we shouldn't fight them because there are people among us who sympathize with them and we shouldn't fight them because lone superpower couldn't. By the way that lone super power did achieve few of the targets (killing of Bin Laden for example) so they aren't completely failed. Insurgancy is a long term fight but then again we need a bit of intellect to understand that. Also please do tell the families of the innocent people who have died in the righteous war of the holy warriors, that the killers of their loved ones will never ever be punished but will be awarded with right to rule their lives with iron grip and kill them too, at the drop of hat. By the way good article Mr. Ejaz Haider. I hope someone in the right position understands.
Writer has no clue about Pakistan military outfits in the FATA tribal areas. He seems confused about the role of regular troops as opposed to Para-military Militia, Scouts, Levies and Khasdars and Scouts which have always existed since 1947 My advice would be for him to keep away from amatuer military analysis
The talks were intended to obtain the free passage for the Americans, to extricate their military equipment via khyber-Karachi highway. No go, the Amerians must depart solo and without the lethal equipment! Nawaz Sharif now elies on the military which is more dangerous than before.
Rex Minor
You should start providing Flow Charts with your articles.
Author: A good follow up article. But what do you think about the following: when US tried the same "bludgeon and talk" in Afghanistan, Pakistan suggested talk first. Bludgeon didn't work much because Taliban could move in to safe heavens in Pakistan and regroup. Post 2014 situation will reverse. Pakistan will try to bludgeon TTP. But it won't work because Taliban will regroup in southern Afghanistan. I understand a section of Pakistanis believe that Taliban would swiftly take over Afghanistan and wouldn't allow TTP to enter Afghanistan. Both presumptions are leaps of faith. ANA led non-Taliban group will dig heels in Northern Afghanistan while civil war would continue. Afghan taliban would not have means, even if inclination, to control TTP. Further, why should they? After "winning" Afghanistan, Pakistan is the obvious target for all Taliban. I shudder to think, but this is going to be a very bad decade for South Asia.
@shakeel: Fully agree with your analysis. The military should necessarily perform its sacred and prime duty of saving its citizens from this grave internal threat of TTP who have killed thousands of innocent people and are dictating its own terms to the state despite the country having a standing army of five million. Presently, there is no external threat behind which the military can choose to hide and its half hearted approach of fighting militancy so far has brought Pakistan to the point of collapse. You have rightly pointed out that people of Pakistan showed exemplary courage against all odds and its time for military to show the same to save the country.
Here is a simple question. What use is the military, and all the decades of funds spent on it, when it cant stop domestic terrorists who are openly killing us and have essentially declared war on us? And to all the sympathizers, go get some braint treatment. Firstly, the TTP are no Muslims; Muslims do not kill innocents, not even disbelievers without reason. Secondly, even if they do just want Sharia implementation, we don't need anyone to impose their twisted version of Sharia on us; we are all Muslims and can decide for ourselves. All those who want the Taliban to take over and have great 'sympathy' for them should have just migrated to Afghanistan 20 years ago eyes roll
A very good article. I would also request the author to write a couple of articles on the history of the previous peace deals with TTP and how they ended. An impression has been created by Taliban B-teams that peace deals have never been tried and a factual account is needed to address this myth.
fully agree with the writer
and the suggestion of talks should only comes from the civilian people not from the army, if IK and Nawaz Sharif wants to talk its perfectly fine, they represents civilian governement, but army should have only one thing in their minds how to get control over the area, why pakistani army is behaving like cowards, why they dont want to fight, why they have this habbit of surrendering themsevlves when the chips are down, when the moral of the nation is down they need to show up,,,, Pakistani nation has given TTP biggest defeat on 11th May, despite all those threats given by TTP , the people came out, irrespective of who ever they chose, where was TTP at that time, we have to keep fighting against them, and also fight with their wings inside our cities,, its not united states war now, its our own war, we were against that war when musharaff started this after 9/11, but now this is our war we have many things in this war, we should finish this with grace, the problem with IK and Nawaz sharif is that both of them probably fear from TTP, every man fears from a man with a gun in his hand, its obvious,
Why after 10 years of fighting has not given the position of strength which could be leveraged for talks? What is missing? From where the TTP getting all the ammunition, fuel, telecommunication, logistics and cash? Who is behind them? Not everything can be made in home made factories,!
agreed ejaz sahb.! one should never forget the negotiations with sufi muhammad and the terms and conditions that were accepted by the government. Aftermath was a devastation by the TTP. they got time to regroup and restrengthen. thanks to Army that they took action and cleaned swat and adjacent areas otherwise swat would have been another waziristan.
All political parties are looking how to survive for the next 5 years. let us start talking to TTP will definitely take 5 years. Than Zerdari will take over. good luck to Nation
I thought as Muslims it was obligated to live under Sharia. Turns out thats the only demand of the TTP. Why not fulfill it and at the same time fulfill your Religious obligations as well?
Hit 2 birds..
Why are the liberals of Pakistan running away from Sharia. That is the question which should be tackled. That is the foundation of many of today's Islamist Parties/Movements like TTP, isn't it.. Give the people what they want!
A peripheral implication of the entire thing is that the military now has another excuse to eat up the country's funds.....as in overhauling the intelligence agencies. Its a vicious circle isnt it.
TTP has been relying on two things to perpetuate this war: Cash and Courage. The moment Pakistani government controls one of these two, I think, things will change dramatically.
The bottom line has been clearly defined by the author ie 'Talks must be conducted from the position of strength'. The unfortunate prediction is that with whatever sincerity the next civilian govt conducts talks with TTP, it is going to end up in failure.
Understanding such articles require the person to have the ability to think rationally which sadly our people lack. The entire counter argument of these people is not just based on Imran Khan's views but it is only that view one keeps hearing in the counter argument. I voted for Imran Khan too but that doesn't mean I have to agree with and defend everything Imran Khan says. Talks would start with an understanding that the state has already lost the war, and now they're being dragged to the negotiating table by Taliban. But our Taliban sympathisers don't really bother about this part.
@aarvey Errr...he was being sarcastic.
When he is not reading books, he offers sage advice. The Oracle has spoken. Taliban, PMLN and military should heed his advice.
As per reports in ET "According to the proposals, the Qaumi Aman Jirga will treat both the Taliban and the government as equal parties to the conflict. The government’s delegation will be led by Nawaz or a cabinet member, besides the opposition leader in the National Assembly and Senate and a representative of the army. The Qaumi Aman Jirga will declare a ceasefire, define a negotiation framework, supervise the compliance of agreements and enforce penalties if terms and conditions are broken by either side, were said to be some of the points of the jirga’s mandate."
So JUI's Qaumi Aman Zirga will now acr as a organization above the government and Taliban ? Will LeT part of these talks or are they the 'good' Taliban ?
@Nadir: I am wondering how you have come to such a conclusion that the TTP constitute ' uncircumcised' RAW and Mossad. Are you running a medical camp which has allowed you to check them? And you also add they are humble tribal people. These ' humble' people are killing and blowing up thousands of Pakistanis. And if these ' humble' people are uncircumcised they are not Muslims? And you say they need to be tallied to. So many contradictions in your small comment.
The offer of talks, not negotiations, came from the PML-N and PTI political leadership which in the elections received the majority support. The offer of talks has not been offered by the Talibans and here we are the author is trying for the secon time to jump the gun, pushing his cart before the horse. I fully agree with him these talks will not give any advantage or loly pops for the military or the Government of Pakistan.
Neither Nawaz Sharif nor Imran Khan has explained fully to the author, the security expert that the intention of the talks is to appease to avoid further loss of lives..
Rex Minor
@Nadir: Ahem, may i point out that the Mossad are circumcised too.
@Nadir:
hahaa
Richard Holbrooke once said that in order to resolve insurgency we have to use divide and rule policy. Those who want to talk and ask for money will get money, those who want a political office will be given a political office or clout and those who want the bullet will be given the bullet. So talks are nothing but part of this policy. Pakistani establishment wants to negotiate with Taliban to legitimize them and put a gentle face on them as civilized bunch as part of reward for services rendered and give them political clout and pension etc rather than leaving them in cold with nothing. Talk with TTP through Sami Ullah Haq is nothing but to give him more political clout for job well done in the past.
The writer present a logical argument, however there is an ingredient missing in the mix. The concept of negotiating with the Taliban is not coming out of a vacuum. Our establishment understands or at least I hope they do, that negotiating at this juncture is pointless, however they also understand that there a big portion of the populous which thinks that the solution of Pakistan's problems is a system based on Taliban styled Sharia. I would suggest that we convince this segment of society the detrimental consequences of such an occurrence in parallel to whatever we do with the Taliban.
>>One, talking has been tested. There have been a number of deals, starting with the Shakai peace deal in South Waziristan in 2004 with Nek Mohammad. All the deals, except two — with the killed Mullah Nazir, and the still-alive Hafiz Gul Bahadur — were broken by the so-called Taliban.
This is not true. Talk to Generals Hamid Gul, Orak Zai, Imran Khan and many many others who are from those areas and really know the situation first hand instead of relying on manufactured realities. When you start your argument with a flawed hypothesis how can you reach valid conclusions? This is the fundamental flaw in your entire article.
Another strong and logical Op Ed on the subject by EH and ET. I agree 100% that this is not the time to talk after taking 60 thousand casualties from TTP. One must always talk but from a position of strength not from a position of weakness. In addition we have tried our best in the past to have a cease fire and peace pacts with these extreme elements but to no avail. The primary goal of Afghan Taliban as they say is to liberate their home from the foreign troops. TTP on the other hand is waging a jihad against Pakistan and its people to tame us and talibanize Pakistan by force. You wrote “There’s nothing the TTP wants more than for the state to withdraw forces from the agencies. The why of this should be obvious: that’s the only way for the TTP to gain full control of the area. Not only would this be a terrible blow to the whole idea of the state’s writ, by abdicating its responsibility for controlling its own territory, the state would send out a signal to external powers”. In fact giving full control to TTP of our northern homeland would flourish safe havens for global jihadists and an open invitation to the super powers and neighbors that we have failed to establish the writ of the country and it is up to the world to deal with this problem. In other words we would make our internal affair a global affair and problem to solve. This would be an invitation for more strikes against our land but also foreign boots on the ground.
Author: Overhauling of agencies is the only way forward to combat terrorism.Civil and military leadership should seriously work on these lines.