There are two broad frameworks for negotiation: distributive and integrative. The idea is simple. How is the pie to be divided? It is important to note that we are presupposing — as is always done in a negotiating process — that both or all parties have reached a point where they believe they can better advance their interests through talking rather than acting unilaterally. We also believe that there is, or can be found, a bargaining zone.
Please note that while we cannot dismiss the possibility of one or more sides entering into negotiations to buy time or using the process to regroup and gain strength, we are deliberately not factoring in that possibility in our hypothesis. In any case, if that were to happen the parties will be thrown back into conflict and the process of negotiation will come to an end.
Our hypothesis then can be put forward thus: the state (of Pakistan) and the TTP have decided that neither can defeat the other through unilateral action and, therefore, both must get down to talking. Also, that both sides will talk in good faith and not resort to strategies that could derail the process.
This essentially signals one thing clearly. Since the TTP comprises non-state actors, the state has already conceded that it has been unable to put it down. So, even if the TTP cannot defeat the state, the two sides come to the table with the state having accepted that it has lost its monopoly on violence. In other words, it has been deprived of one of its central traits.
Put another way, while the TTP may not have defeated the state, by not allowing the state to win, the TTP has dispossessed the state of its domination.
The next step will be distributive. Who will get what share of the pie? Because once the state concedes its inability to retain its monopoly on violence, it has to enter the process of give and take. And what it can take, in theory, must be less than what it possessed before the conflict began. For the non-state TTP, whatever it can get is a gain against the state.
It must, therefore, be clear to Mr Sharif, as also to those too eager to talk to the TTP, that negotiating with that entity without forcing it to seek peace unilaterally and then talking to it, means the two sides come to the table as equals. If the coming government is comfortable with that thought, we shall continue to the next stage.
Such negotiations cannot be integrative — i.e., the two sides cannot increase the size of the pie. They have to be distributive. What will the state bring to the table? We already know what the TTP’s demands are. They have been made abundantly clear and start by rejecting the very basis of the Pakistani state and its institutions. Is the state prepared to do that?
What is the nature of the terrain in the bargaining zone, accept if we do that such a zone in fact exists? Mr Sharif will have to figure out the space between the state’s minimum reservation point and the TTP’s maximum reservation point — and, vice versa.
The army chief says talks are possible if the TTP lays down arms and accepts the writ of the state. Unless he is rejecting the very idea of talks at this stage, which would be smart, this will not work. Why would the TTP accept the writ of the state when the latter’s desire to negotiate terms with the TTP means precisely that the state has lost its writ because it has been deprived of its monopoly on violence?
Essentially, this means that once the state, without bludgeoning the TTP and forcing it into talks, concedes that there is reason to talk to the TTP, it cannot dictate terms, even as it can put across its position.
The two positions, at the opening gambit, are incompatible. But wait. Can we focus on interests rather than positions, trying to figure out what it is that motivates the TTP? Perhaps. Let’s assume, against evidence, that the TTP doesn’t want to conquer Pakistan ideologically. That all it wants, before its cadres lay down their arms, is for Pakistan to change international course in the region. Can the state, under Mr Sharif’s watch, afford to do that, given that it bespeaks of international isolation and even possible conflict with the United States and its allies?
I doubt it. If anything, considering what Mr Sharif has been saying, he wants to integrate Pakistan into the world, not isolate it. And by the looks of it, the TTP is not prepared to accept even the state’s minimum reservation point, let alone the maximum.
I hear dissenting whispers about fighting our own people. This argument is bogus at worst; misplaced at best. The TTP’s agenda is to isolate Pakistan and to spread its exclusionary ideology. There are also more than sotto voce pronouncements about negotiating with the TTP because even America is talking to the Taliban. This not only shows a pathetic lack of understanding of the two situations but also indicates how little people generally know about the TTP and what it stands for. How it came into being; what groups comprise it, its agenda and how it gets funded. But we shall leave that for some other day.
No matter how one looks at it, one can’t find the bargaining space so essential for negotiations to succeed. In which case, would it not be instructive for Mr Sharif to not give voice to a course of action that he might not be able to take?
Published in The Express Tribune, May 22nd, 2013.
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@np: The man who carried out with his platoon was later arrested by the USA military and was supposed to be court marshalled facing death sentence. We have not heard since with the claim that he single handed did it. The child witness said differently.
Rex Minor
@Rex Minor: "You are not going to tell us that soldiers which go into civilian houses and kill the old, women and children and then burn their bodies, can be regarded as professional soldiers?"
It is only you who say that they do this. On the other hand, TTP (who this article is about) bomb girls schools, markets, playgrounds, mosques, behead soldiers, kill polio workers and you seem to respect them and cal them highly disciplined. Wow!!!
@Lala Gee:
If you think Pakistan has nothing to offer to Kashmiri people, then why are you so afraid of taking their opinion through free and fair plebiscite.
Though I am convinced that you know the UN Resolutions and are still lying through your teeth. Yet, to be fair I will repeat the resolutions to dispel your ignorance.
As the presence of troops of Pakistan in the territory of the State of Jammu and Kashmir constitutes a material change in the situation since it was represented by the Government of Pakistan before the Security Council, the Government of Pakistan agrees to withdraw its troops from that State. (2) The Government of Pakistan will use its best endeavor to secure the withdrawal from the State of Jammu and Kashmir of tribesmen and Pakistan nationals not normally resident therein who have entered the State for the purpose of fighting. (3) Pending a final solution the territory evacuated by the Pakistan troops will be administered by the local authorities under the surveillance of the Commission. http://www.kashmiri-cc.ca/un/sc13aug48.htm
Is Pakistan ready to comply?
@Zalmai:
You blame Pakistan duplicity (a very speculative assumption) for American failure in combating the most disciplined and fearless Taliban resistance for over a decade now despite the use of drones against the forces which are positioned along the so called durand line shown on the map( and confrmed today by Obama), and with the collaboration of Northern alliance forces and Pakistan military. Bravo, you are also a victim of the CIA propaganda reducing the Resistance to a minority group. I cannot recall if the American military has ever won a war on their own in their entire history, O'k Granada was a success fo Reagan! You are not going to tell us that soldiers which go into civilian houses and kill the old, women and children and then burn their bodies, can be regarded as professional soldiers?
Rex Minor
Pakistan is not the only, nor the first, country to have a violent Islamist movement within its borders! Somalia, Ethiopia, India(I consider the events after 1940 are in similar vain), Afghanistan,etc. are some of the notable mentions.
Sometimes the struggle is violent, sometimes the power is seized with much less violence(Iran is a great example, Egypt with the Muslim Brotherhood is the latest one).
In each of the above cases the similarity is enormous. I would like to draw the attention to my observation but that would make my post susceptible to censorship by ET. So will pass on it. Hope all can connect the dots and find out the commonality among all the above cases.
@Rex Minor: "Your comments of may 22, reflect a very good assessment of the situation with the exception of the 30,000 number. we should be talking about the sixty million odd Pashtuns who afer the USA withdrawl are poised to spread across the sub-continent to spread and stregnthen their activities in non Pashto speaking territory"
So speaks a completely objective and unbiased German (self certified) with no roots in the subcontient (Self stated) - especially Waziristan.
@mind control:
"...do what you can."
Who need your permission?
@Afghan Maihan:
"Even if Kashmir was handed to Pakistan, the bloodletting will not end there."
We never demanded to hand over Kashmir to Pakistan. What we, and the world through UNSC, only ask is to apply the same principles to Kashmir as well what India used as a pretext to annex Junagadh, Hyederabad Deccan, Bhopal, Goa, and Sikim states. If you think Pakistan has nothing to offer to Kashmiri people, then why are you so afraid of taking their opinion through free and fair plebiscite. Regarding Baluchistan, @Humza: has already explained quite eloquently that it is not a disputed territory between India and Pakistan. However, India is free to go to UNSC in support of Baluchi people.
Its absurd to talk about negotiating with the Taliban; they're non-state actors without a mandate who're wreaking havoc and violence in the country, and we want to negotiate with them? This, more than anything in Karachi or Balochista, warrants military action; sure the army will suffer losses and it will be difficult, but if we're giving in to TTP, we might just as well declare ourselves a failed state and shed all talk of sovereignity.
@Lala Gee:
Now it is up to Indians to decide, if they still wants to hold the peace and progress of 2 billion people of the region, including themselves, hostage to their greed by continuing their occupation at gun point against the wishes of the Kashmiri people.
YES. If you do not want that, then instead of pontificating do what you can.
Next question please.
@Rex Minor
You call the US Army a ragtag outfit, which delusional and fantastic world do you live in? The US Army killed OBL in the heart of Pakistan and it killed Owlaki in Yemen and if it wasn't for Pakistani duplicity they would have annihilated the Quetta Shura and the Haqqani Network.
@Riaz Ahmad:
Your comments of may 22, reflect a very good assessment of the situation with the exception of the 30,000 number. we should be talking about the sixty million odd Pashtuns who afer the USA withdrawl are poised to spread across the sub-continent to spread and stregnthen their activities in non Pashto speaking territory. Mr Karzai is the integral part of the Taliban establishment today. . KPK new Govenment have therefore, the last chance for peace and co-existance. Pakisan
Rex Minor
A good article by EJAJ.He clarified the isue he wanted to deal with and focussed on it. argued the issue logically and not emotionally. Good style of writing - learnt something from it.
@Rishi USA: Strong statement coming from the Irk of the country whose commander has ordered the retreat of its ragtag marines and seals from Afghanistan after a decade of prowling into the middle of nightall to frighten old people as well as women and children.
.One can only recall such statements of the Third Rreich which did not achieve peace.
Rex Minor.
@Toba Alu:
Do not upset yourself; the Talibans do not negotiate!
Rex Minor
Regretfully, ET did not dare to post my comment. No one should negotiate with TTP. Those who are going to negotiate will become part of the problem. Some things are non-negotiable. Two different universes.
@FP:
No! What he means is that the US Army cares about what happens to people who are presumably innocent, otherwise, we would flatten everything between Iran and Pakistan. The way you kill vermin is by exterminating everything including benign insects. We do not want to do that. If we wanted to do that.... you'd be hunting a hole to hide in right now.
@Afghan Maihan: You know full well that the Kashmir problem was started by the British who connived with India to deny the Kashmiri people the right to join Pakistan. If you were to hold a referendum in occupied Kashmir, the real loyalty of the people would be clear - even after 60 years of occupation. Baluchistan voted to become part of Pakistan and apart from a small number of tribal leaders on foreign payrolls, most Baluchis are firmly pro Pakistani as any poll will show you. As for the 50 % population of Baluchistan who are ethnic Pashtun, they have always been staunchly pro Pakistani like my relatives in Quetta. I suspect you already know this but trying to cloud the root cause of South Asia's tensions which is Kashmir. This is intellectually wrong and prevents any meaningful progress. Justice cannot be denies forever for Kashmiris and Indian state oppression can stop. Give Kashmiris the right to vote as per UN resolutions and the issue between neighbours is settled.
@ Lala Gee
There is no propaganda here, you need to look at things objectively and not from your biased Paknationalist prism.
If you want to throw issue of Kashmir into the mix then why not include the issue of Balochistan and their right to self determination. Pakistan oppresses its own people what are they going to do for Kashmir. Even if Kashmir was handed to Pakistan, the bloodletting will not end there.
@Enlightened: What "Zalmai" and his Indians friends need to ask is why Pakistan has had to counter actions from India from its direct border or through its puppet state of Afghanistan. After India has been actively causing troubles in all of her neighbours, including Nepal, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka - not just Pakistan. It has been proven that India uses Afghanistan as a base to carry out activites against Pakistan by none other than the US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel. So perhaps you need to say that until India dismantles its terror agencies and actions, peace will remain elusive.
Agreed, @Umair Khan:
@Zalmai: @Enlightened: @All Indians:
1- No matter what propaganda you do to cover-up, the real cause of all the troubles in the sub-continent is the illegal occupation of Kashmir by India. Every thing else is of a reactionary nature.
2- No matter what you do, until the Kashmir dispute is resolved according to the wishes of the Kashmiri people, there would be no peace, and hence end to violence, in the region.
3- No matter what you do, Pakistan will never abandon Kashmiri brethren.
Now it is up to Indians to decide, if they still wants to hold the peace and progress of 2 billion people of the region, including themselves, hostage to their greed by continuing their occupation at gun point against the wishes of the Kashmiri people.
@Zalmai: Excellent analysis brother, you have scored a perfect ten. Hope the top brass of the major establishment read your comments and abandon this decades old self-destructive policy with immediate effect which will bring peace and prosperity not only in Pakistan but the entire region.
The Pakistani paradox: The soldier on the left attacks the insurgent while the one on the right supports the insurgent; both claim to be patriotic.
Pakistan's security paradox is emblematic of the headaches it has created for itself by trying to counter and foment insurgencies simultaneously. You cannot preach jihad for 65 years against India and 30 years against Afghanistan respectively and then one fine day decide to make peace with jihadists that have morphed into a transnational nexus of Islamist militancy.
Pak Army motto: "Iman, Taqwa, Jihad fi-sabil-illah" and this is what the militants trained by the establishment have been indoctrinated with for thirty years. Pakistan's Army and its intelligence agencies have close ties with HQN and TTP but Pakistan consistently drags its feet to act against the former while fighting the latter.
Unless Pakistan dismantles all terror outfits peace will only be an elusive pipe dream.
@Raj - USA: Lala Gee believes that it is India that is funding TTP. While there are no facts on the ground to support this. In fact people like Hamid Gul have said that behtulla Mehsud we're true mujahids as late as 2008. What he is recommending in option 2 is more terror in India and in option 3 war with India. Are you sure this is what you were agreeing to?
Also while tattoos maybe unIslamic, it does not mean that those people who had tattoos were not Muslims at birth. Many Muslims do unIslamic things. For example Jinnah used to eat pork, Bhutto used to drink alcohol. That does not change the fact that they were Muslims at birth.
@Faiza: Agree with your comments. There appears to be a big conspiracy behind this failure but nobody in Pakistan has figured it out so far since it has no Indian connection.
ET moderator,
it does not serve the spirit of Free Press if you are sorting out the comments of the bloggers and publishing mostly those who carry similar views to those of the author. There has been no press about PTI or ML-n negotions with TTP but TALKS. The talibans in principle do not negotiate, never have, nor have they announced their readiness to talk.
Facts are that both political parties have the majority in the country to conduct talks and this was partialy responsible for their defeating the ANP and PPP Governments. The geo strategic situation has dramaticaly altered since the American Godfather has decided to vacate the position of the sheriff in favour of the Russians and the Chinese,; while Afghanistan and India are stregnthing their military cooperation and sooner than later Indian will start supplying Tanks and helicopters to Afghanistan as was disclose by one of the etire military Geneal on Aljazeera program.
Rex Minor
The best option would be wipe out the talibans totally ......... your option # 1. If done correctly, the talibans will take you to your option # 2.
Talk is good. Talking is always good. No matter what is the situation. Being said that, however, the eventual out come would be complete defeat of either of the two in the battle field. There is no other option or way out. Now, the question is what options and strategies are available to the state of Pakistan in order to come out of this mess as the winner? In my opinion, there are only three options available:
1- The most preferable strategy would be similar to what was "adopted by Sri Lanka". 2- Return the favor in kind to their sponsors, which perhaps will encourage them to re-do the cost/benefit analysis. 3- The last option is "do-or-die" type engagement with the puppet master than the puppets.
An extremely tricky situation which the new govt will have to handle in the coming days. Though the author has rightly cautioned the new govt the futility of negotiating with the TTP but failed to admonish the security forces for their complete failure for the past five years to effectively counter the mayhem unleashed by the TTP resulting in deaths of 40000 thousand innocent civilians and still counting. The fact of the matter is that the state is totally on the defensive and TTP had been dictating its own terms before the elections and should the talks fail the same would get even worse.
@Umair Khan: It seems the TTP are being defeated since they have alienated themselves from the general public who despise them as foreign puppets out to destablise Pakistan for enemies of the state. I can't see any need to negotiate with the TTP since they are a lost cause. Killing civilians, policemen or random government officials serves no strategic purpose and the criminals appear to be running out of steam. Even within FATA, people are sick of these miscreants- yes foreign funding for their twisted cause will continue for several years but you can already see that the number of attacks has diminished significantly and that it's only a matter of time before they fizzle out.
The most state should grant is perhaps immunity to legal action once TTP puts away arms. Anything more than that sounds like a bad bargain to me.
@khattak I hope you are being sarcastic only.
What a realistic analysis of 'peace' talks with barbarians. I better ask my family to come out of Pakistan. sigh
@Khattak:
Is pakistan a Kafir state?? If sauda(kingdom of saudi arabia) can live with Kingship who not pakistan with democracy.??
the fact is talibs want pakistan to be another afghanistan where they would rule herds of people and push pakistan back to the ignorance era.
Agreed Mr.Ejaz.! Lets see who benefits from this negotiation time; the talibs to reorganize or the army to infiltrate into the enemy lines. As far as talibs are concerned, they are too stubborn to lay weapons without implementing their exclusive Shariat. (shariat or shahadat) So there remains only one option and people know it better..! ;) Best of luck Pak army.!
@Raj - USA: So you want to say that American Army is on picnic in Afghanistan from past 12 years.
Actually its probably the beliefs of Mr Haider doing the talking. No Mr. Haider we still want sharia. U cant stop it from happening. Not even sect-ual differences.
The very notion of negotiation with Taliban is deceptive at worst and self-deceptive at best. It is deceptive because the proponents are well aware of the fact that Taliban love to hate negotiation. They would not have started butchering tens of thousands had they believed in a civilized processes of power-seeking. The taliban in Afghanistan despite huge and unsustainable international pressure and the grave implication of impending defeat, flatly refused to negotiate with international community for handing over OBL. Their Pakistani counterpart have unambiguously made it abundantly clear that they will play only that game which has a single outcome of zero-sum. NS and IK will have to place a lot at the negotiating table ranging from Constitution to sovereignty, democracy and their legitimacy to rule. I do not think the people of Pakistan will allow to go for negotiations which are pregnant with such cataclysmic implications. Great article. Hats off to EH.
If Sri Lanka can crush LTTE, why cant Pakistan do the same to TTP? Answer is, lack of will...both in the military and civillian leadership, who are hopelessly focused on short term personal gains
@Riaz Ahmad: US i Viet COng and Russia and US in Afghanistan were seen as occupiers and hence the resistance.
Sri Lanka did successfully take care of LTTE and India of the Khalistan movement. It takes will.
@Falcon : Without increasing the army size, it is possible to more effectively confront TTP by redirecting forces from a safe border to one where you being regularly attacked.
@Khattak: At least you are not a hypocrite...
@Ch. Allah Daad: Agree 100% with your very perceptive statement. That has been my observation too - not withstanding all statements by the COAS indicating that their primary enemy is internal. They simply are not willing to give up India dushmani to actually pursue the real enemies who attack in you in your schools, markets and mosques.
Also being a strong PML-N supporter it takes a lot of courage to admit that army is not under civilian control despite the fact that this is clearly different from how Nawaz said he would lead this time around to Karan Tapar in his recent pre-poll interview.
@Riaz Ahmad: Thank you Riaz sahib >>>>>>>>>> you are right . Not by the army alone !!!!
i dont agree what he says.he didnt show the real situation n the world. America tried all the resources on taliban but n the last he realized that taliban cant be defeated by forceand started negotiation with them.if he with supreme power s compelled to negotiate with them,then u should know the real situation
To summarize, a military or a negotiated settlement with the TTP is not workable. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Then what is workable?
@Riaz Ahmad: "America the super power with 100,000 soldiers, Nato with further 50,000, plus Afghan army and police, latest military and communications technology, billions and billions of dollars over eleven years have failed to defeat 30,000 Taliban with very basic weapons and limited money."
In fact US drove off the talibans from Afghanistan in the very first 2 weeks. Talibans moved to Pakistan and Pakistan army was protecting them. This is how Osama also moved to Pakistan. Had USA wanted, it could have attacked Pakistan also to wipe out the talibans. But this would mean an open war with Pakistan and huge casualties inflicted on Pakistan. US did not want to attack a country with a huge population and thought that Pakistan will come around some time sooner. Musharraf promised the skies to Bush and Bush believed it. Pakistan is a sovereign country and US avoided declaring a direct war on Pakistan just to prevent thousands of deaths of Pakistani soldiers and civilians. For a power like US, it is easy to cause massive and even total destruction. US purposefully avoided direct attack on Pakistan. Had Pakistan army not protected the talibans and had US been willing to attack Pakistan, talibans would have been wiped out long ago.
it is strange that no one in pakistan is ready at the state level to implement slowly and gradually the right version of our idealogy,to make it a islamic welfare state.if we move in this direction no need to negotiate with any one
@Author, I agree with your theory and possible outcomes, but you could have used simpler language and words to convey your point. Point made, nonetheless.
It is very similar to the pre-civil war era in the US. Government has to decide whether they are the Union or confederate states.
TTP’s proposition is very simple – Sharia or else. No doubt about that, whether you agree with that or not; THE proposition is crystal clear.
Now it is up to the people/The Union to choose. Will we find a Lincoln? We already have few Jefferson Davis clones.
May Pakistan find the right solution. ..Peace
The foundation of Pakistan is based on Islamic ideology. That is the ideology of Taliban. That is what we have been taught in schools during last 65 years. Am I lieing? So where is the problem if Taliban demands are implemented in letter & spirit.
Author: Sensible piece overall. But I am surprised that even you, with your knowledge, have succumbed to the "funding" rhetoric. I won't try to read reasons though.
Who is funding JuD/LeT? Collections at thousands of mosques across Pakistan. TTP has access to those types of funding. Add to that: protection money from all kinds of business in their area + NATO supply transporters + opium/drug trade + timber mafia + emerald mining + cut from government development funds siphoned off by lower bureaucracy/politicians. May be even extortion and kidnapping rackets. Sir, Opportunities are endless. One thing that TTP doesn't need is external funding. Their modus operandi is similar to the Maoists in India. Money is not an issue at all. Who exactly is inflating real estate prices in Pashtun areas of Balochistan, Karachi and Peshawar?
Ejaz Haider's piece is quite suggestive of certain basic elements for ' would be' talks with TTP. Are we simply going to ask highly motivated out laws to put down their arms & come to the main stream of country's politics.........nay, it would be very naive of them to accept it & like wise, the government of Pakistan(GOP) to then giving them free hand to propagate their agenda openly to achieve their nefarious objectives,if at all they agree with GOP?Which faction will be engaged in talks or GOP will individually & severally contact them or ask these elements to approach GOP for talks?Are GOP & participating political parties use carrot & stick method to woo these elements in their entirety & will it yield desirable productive results?What if they ask for a separate province & in that case will GOP make an offer to merge FATA with KPK after considering the ramifications there of? These are a few conceivable ideas one could present for brain storming,particularly for Mr,Ejaz Haider to consider & come out with his comments or else someone has better suggestions?
I agree with word to word with Mr. Ejaz Haider. Like Mr. Kamran Shafi and Zafar Hilali, Mr. Ejaz Haider has also been trying very hard to infuse some rational thinking. They have had only limited success so far.
Sometime ago, the Army killed some talibans and it was disclosed that some of them were having strange tattoos. These were not Pakistanis but foreign fighters. Also, they were converts to Islam and not muslims by birth and would have tattooed their bodies before their conversion to Islam. No one knows who shall take over as leader of TTP factions when any of their leader dies or gets killed. It could be even a person who is not a Pakistani. Do Pakistanis want to be ruled by a foreigner and do the Pakistanis, who are muslims by birth, want to be taught islam by those who converted to Islam recently? Some say that TTP is funded and directed by other countries. If that is true, would the Pakistani like to be ruled by a group that is funded and directed from overseas?
>> This not only shows a pathetic lack of understanding of the two situations but also indicates how little people generally know about the TTP and what it stands for. How it came into being; what groups comprise it, its agenda and how it gets funded. But we shall leave that for some other day.
This article is a good example of a lack of understanding of the situations!!!
Negotiations will obviously not work, it is safe to assume that unless we are ready to accept Taliban rule in FATA and may be in KPK as well. Calling for negotiation in opposition is fundamentally different than doing it with responsiblity in government. People of Pakistan, standing behind their Government, civil and military establishment and intelligence organisations can defeat this monster.
@Babloo: An English teacher used to tell us that there are only 2 category of people who can refer to themselves as "We" - the people f Royal blood, people who have tapeworms.
I think as a spokesperson for the army he comes in the category of royalty - at least as far as Pakistan goes.
Two important facts. 1. Army has no intention to bow to a civilian government.. Maximum, army is willing to accept civilian government as their junior partner. (Kayani and Nawaz agreed to work together.. News Headline). 2. Army is not willing to be an offensive force against Taliban. Therefore, no Civilian leader would think to use an Army which is unwilling and not taking orders.
America the super power with 100,000 soldiers, Nato with further 50,000, plus Afghan army and police, latest military and communications technology, billions and billions of dollars over eleven years have failed to defeat 30,000 Taliban with very basic weapons and limited money. The lesson of Soviet Union's defeat at the hands of Mujahideen and the negotiated exit after nine years wasn't quite relevant for American arrogance. Turkey for the last 30 years has been fighting PKK with out any result. Both USA and Turkey have resorted to negotiations, having suffered from years of military exhaustions. US was defeated by the Vietcong with limited resources and asymmetric warfare. Lesson for Pakistan is fairly obvious, irrespective of the intricacies of negotiation theory presented in this article.
@Akhtar Ali Khan: "Imran Khan will be never forgiven by the youth (who supported him) and the people in KP if he ever negotiate with TTP. "
As an Indian I would not want India to negotiate with insurgencies in India from a position of weakness as it appears that Pakistan is about to undertake. Having said that, Imran's supporters are convinced that such negotiations are just what is needed. To be fair to Imran one may disagree with his agenda but he did not hide this part of the agenda. So it is unlikely his supporters will have a problem if he negotiates. Of course, as I suspect, if the negotiations fail to yield the expected results, they will get alienated. OF course, if I am proven wrong and peace reigns - well good for Pakistan.
The 47000 dead in terrorist related violence and their families eagerly await the TTP being brought to justice....oh wait!
Mr Ejaz refers to "We" again and again in this piece. Who is "We" here ? Mr Ejaz ? Army ? ISI ?
Also Mr Ejaz says "We already know what the TTP’s demands are. They have been made abundantly clear and start by rejecting the very basis of the Pakistani state and its institutions."
Can you please state what is "very basis of Pakistani state and its institutions " ?
If its "Islam" then the TTP have a point.
While I understand your thoughts on the problems of negotiating, I would also like to see your views on what should be done. The problem is we have already more than 140,000 soldiers in FATA. As per your own article, you provided details of why Army is stretched too thin on multiple fronts. We don't have enough money to fund a bigger army than this (unless you literally want the country to starve like North Korea). So, what are the life saving solutions on the table other than fixes such as empowerment of NACTA, improving legal framework, and better law enforcement. Question is how many more dead bodies are we willing to pick up as a nation before we will be able to put TTP down?
Does Nawaz sharrif have landslide mandate to accept or reject TTP demands ? Unless entire population supports Mr Sharrif, its going to be an uphill task.
One of the rare pieces of Mr. HAider that I can largely agree with. Of course he implies that TTP is funded by foreigners and that may not be true. For those that ask almost in a rhetorical tone , how do they get funded - the answer is drugs transit trade, extortion, kidnapping, bank robbery and chanda from certain maddrassas and mosques where there is sympathy for their cause.
To negotiate with a non-state entity (which itself is divided into various fractions with different agenda: no education for girls, no international relations, etc.) will never work. TTP were provided an opportunity in Swat, but the killing never stopped. Unfortunately, they neither practice, nor know what Islam is. They are half baked religious zealots (not unlike Al-Shabab of Somalia) and their main job is to kill any one who does not agree with them, and to enforce very primitive type of Sharia.
Pakistani (especially rural Punjab) may be able to tolerate them, but will not be able to live with them. Sharifs are whistling in the wind, and in the end their decision will come to hunt them.
Imran Khan will be never forgiven by the youth (who supported him) and the people in KP if he ever negotiate with TTP.
Ejaz Haider for President!
Unfortunately, the TTP has won its right to negotiate. The reason being that, they have militarily proven that they are strong enough to stand any fight put up by the Pakistan Army. Also, Nawaz does not want what happened to Taseer, or Ali Haider or Bashir Bilour! He is too wise to make an open enemy of the Taliban. If he does, the Taliban will target him and most probably get to him!