PTI wants recount with fingerprint verification in 4 constituencies

Published: May 15, 2013
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File photo of PTI chief Imran Khan. PHOTO: AFP

File photo of PTI chief Imran Khan. PHOTO: AFP

LAHORE: Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan on Wednesday presented his demands before the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) and asked that they accept them within three days.

In a pre-recorded message played before the media in Lahore, Khan said that they were demanding a recount in four constituencies, but the election commission should verify the votes with fingerprints.

He said the party had reservations over the results of 25 National Assembly seats.

Protesters in Karachi and Lahore have been demonstrating since May 12 against the results of the general elections. The protesters allege that rigging took place and polling at some stations was purposely delayed.

The PTI chief said that this was the first time the country had seen such a high turnout and the election commission should investigate the allegations or the people would be disappointed.

‘Will work with Nawaz Sharif to resolve major issues’

Imran Khan said that despite the differences between him and Nawaz Sharif, both had agreed to work together to resolve major issues being faced by Pakistan. He said terrorism was one of the biggest issues that needed to be resolved.

“I have spoken to General Kayani as well, we all want solutions to these problems.”

‘Chance to make a modern province’

Khan said that this was the first time PTI had been given the chance to form a government, and they had the opportunity to make Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa a modern province.

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Reader Comments (39)

  • nazia
    May 15, 2013 - 5:48PM

    Goodluck KPK people and best of Luck for Lahoris and Karachiite ..
    It looks like a dream that ECP consideres re-polling .. ! though we all want it , but nothing is happening ..
    the another party has EATEN our votes and we are helpless just protesting, nothing else… !
    Is this the value of vote of grown up, mature, educated Pakistani ?

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  • Farhan
    May 15, 2013 - 5:49PM

    Reasonable request by the PTI – take a sample, and if that shows rigging then steps need to be taken to rectify the situation.

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  • khan
    May 15, 2013 - 5:52PM

    more strength to you khan

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  • gotti
    May 15, 2013 - 5:57PM

    They might not have a majority after this but they sure will get justice if the senile ECP shows some decency. The irony would be for the “movement for justice” to not get any justice themselves, and that too when they are only beginning to find ways to help others get it.
    FYI, for the clever children in class: there’s no difference in the meaning of ‘adl’ and ‘insaaf’ as neither of the two words mean unjust equality that disregards preexisting conditions or circumstances. Also, neither of them are translated as anything other than “justice” in English. Therefore, to confuse concepts and try a play on words to concoct philosophies and further foreign vested interests is idiotic, at best.

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  • Dr Ali
    May 15, 2013 - 6:00PM

    Very fair demand .

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  • Mohammad Ali Siddiqui
    May 15, 2013 - 6:01PM

    It is the duty of the ECP to satisfy Imran Khan and uncounted PTI supporters i the country, and therefore, recounting should be done by ECP as desired by IK.

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  • Shaheen
    May 15, 2013 - 6:02PM

    Imran khan,s demand is genuine and logical, Election Commission should take quick action to resolve this issue amicably otherwise situation may turn into ugly state.

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  • Da Don
    May 15, 2013 - 6:03PM

    Looking forward to PTI rule in KPK! Very proud moment for all Pukhtuns like myself!

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  • Dr.X
    May 15, 2013 - 6:03PM

    Other parties only have to lose if they DID indulge in rigging. If not, then they too should support this demand, it will only help support democracy.

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  • Babablacksheep
    May 15, 2013 - 6:10PM

    their should be re-election in pakistan under this system.

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  • IZ
    May 15, 2013 - 6:16PM

    Yes but which 4 constituencies is he talking about?

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  • SWIS
    May 15, 2013 - 6:18PM

    Which 4 constituencies ? but its a good start all pakistan need is resolution of main issues, irrespective of who resolves.

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  • Lofted Shot
    May 15, 2013 - 6:20PM

    IK you’re Revolutionist you give people and make them understand how to fight against their own rights. We’re with you IK,

    Love for
    Punjabis
    Pathans
    Balochis
    Sindhis
    Muhajirs/Urdu Speaking
    and all other Pakistanis

    from Karachiet

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  • ZZQ
    May 15, 2013 - 6:24PM

    The most likely solution to prove rigging. We have all witnessed rigging. MQM and PMLN shouldn’t have any problem if they have done it all fair and square.

    My suggestion, NA 253, NA 252, NA 125 and Narrowal

    C’mon all the (self proclaimed) righteous politicians of Pakistan… if u r true, u shudn’t oppose this suggestion by IK

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  • Sam
    May 15, 2013 - 6:25PM

    Tribune has a serious problem. It is 25 NA constituencies and not 4.

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  • naeem khan Manhattan,Ks
    May 15, 2013 - 6:31PM

    It could be done scientifically by sampling, and if any discrepancies are found then declare these constituencies null and void, it is as simple as that.

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  • Umer Iqbal
    May 15, 2013 - 6:43PM

    Get well soon captain.

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  • Ali
    May 15, 2013 - 6:43PM

    Fingerprinting EACH voter?! That is not even logistically possible!

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  • wajid
    May 15, 2013 - 6:51PM

    justice we need
    now or never

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  • ItsNotOk
    May 15, 2013 - 7:00PM

    @Umer Iqbal: ”
    Get well soon captain.”

    Do you think he is really unwell?

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  • MJ
    May 15, 2013 - 7:00PM

    @Ali,
    They are not asking to fingerprint each voter. They’re asking the ECP to compare the fingerprints on the ballots to thats voter’s fingerprints in NADRA’s database.

    @topic – I think it is a very valid request. Should be paid heed. If other parties are confident in their victories, they shouldn’t have a problem with this.

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  • ahsan
    May 15, 2013 - 7:01PM

    Fair enough demand. Its the future of the country. Why shouldnt we be concerned about it

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  • Mujeeb
    May 15, 2013 - 7:12PM

    @nazia:
    seriously….??

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  • Raza
    May 15, 2013 - 7:29PM

    This man has ignited the nation! and this fire is not about to go out anytime soon

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  • TheTwelfthMan
    May 15, 2013 - 7:30PM

    @Ali: Each voter has already given the finger print to NADRA…

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  • Rimx
    May 15, 2013 - 7:51PM

    A valid demand although i am quite surprised to see the lack of audit and accountability in regards to the votes cast. This should had been done before demanding for this as it is about the fate of the country. This can give assurance to the people of the country that the electoral process is clean. Just surprised with the ill manner of the ECP. Also, u don’t need to match all thumb impressions we can use statistics and number of techniques to sample out of the population of votes in different constituencies even i was surprised to see the lack of technology used in the electoral process for verification which can be quite cheap and convenient. Allah know what the fate of this nation will be but looking at it currently seems very much gloomy. This election was no more than a joke with the people of Pakistan.

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  • May 15, 2013 - 8:03PM

    I have few questions
    Why did EC took thumb prints on each vote cost.
    Is there a system which can flag a thumb print if it appears more than twice.
    When we get our passport is our thumb print is authenticated against the one in database..

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  • Baba Shakkari
    May 15, 2013 - 8:37PM

    @ustaz:

    That is possible only if there is an electronic voting system like in India. ECP should have rented Electronic Voting machines from India. A person can scan their thumb on the machine which compares it is data base in real time. There are ways to conduct fair elections if one wants to.

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  • M Khan
    May 15, 2013 - 8:58PM

    The problem with authenticating the ballot paper thumb impressions with the NADRA database is not easy from a technical perspective. You will need to write special software code to perform this and that is where the problem lies. The logic in the code that will run against the NADRA database can be manipulated easily. It can then return results that show no rigging happened. I hope PTI will be smart enough to ensure that the software code is thorougly audited and ensure that the same version of the software code is actually executed.Recommend

  • Khubaib
    May 15, 2013 - 9:13PM

    This would violate voter privacy. Imagine the consequences if you could tell who voted for whom!

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  • Chill
    May 15, 2013 - 9:37PM

    NA 239,Na 256,Na 250,NA 252 in Karachi..all were rigged

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  • Saad Ullah
    May 15, 2013 - 9:51PM

    ECP was fully involved in the rigging in Karachi, i doubt it will take any decent steps to rectify it!

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  • Raj - USA
    May 15, 2013 - 10:05PM

    Best solution:
    Election Commission should set up a Commission to enquire/probe irregularities !!!!!!!!!!!

    Commissions are the most effective (read evasive).

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  • Rashid
    May 15, 2013 - 11:57PM

    Hello, Why don’t we go for re-election altogether?
    PTI, if the election commission accepts your demand then what about JUI-F demands against your mandate? What about sindhi Nationalists demands against the seats of the PPP?? Grow up you all and be thankful that you have some seats from KPK only. You have a chance to prove yourselves in KPK. Grab it!!Recommend

  • Yasir
    May 16, 2013 - 4:36AM

    Imran Khan demands recounting with thumb impression verification in NA-57 Attock , NA-125 Lahore , NA-110 Sialkot , NA-54 Rawalpindi.

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  • Ricky
    May 16, 2013 - 8:53AM

    Verification by fingerprints is against the basic principle of secret vote. IK the great has no idea what he is talking about. Even if he gets four more seats he would still have lost.

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  • abdul mateen
    May 16, 2013 - 11:56AM

    Khan sb good luck in KPK Government but i afraid the man and his team who used fork lifter without looking into safety of themselves and other, how deeply they can think of handling of issues?
    God bless Khan sb and other politicians of Pakistan and give them courage and wisdom to work for the prosperity of people.

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  • Zubair
    May 16, 2013 - 12:18PM

    I am 45 years old (not so youthful) & voted for the 1st time , in NA-49 Islamabad, there were long ques since 8.AM the people voted for PTI 70% and PML 30% , Till late night PTI candidate was winning with huge margin and I went to bed early morning than to my utter shock the PML-N candidate won when I woke-up
    please visit the area and see for your self. I have lost faith in the institutions of Pakistan, one had hoped this time elections were under the judiciary and that their was some hope now.
    The role of one major news outlet was so biased that some how one felt that they were the spokesperson of PML-N it was the most rigged election and can be compared with the countless Presidential Referendums in opinion of some honest journalists.**
    ECP has surely failed.

    Footnote: during election night Mian sahib came on live TV and advised his benefactors inside and out side of Pakistan that he would need simple majority in parliament otherwise its of no use (read rigging). I think the whole nation saw it , now decide for yourself my dear Pakistanis was the out come rigged or you still believe otherwise.

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  • Nirmeen
    May 16, 2013 - 1:20PM

    This thumb verification could only identify completely bogus votes. If the voter actually went through the entire voting process and rigging was done in the form of switching of his/her vote, this thumb verification will not hold ground; as the thumb prints on the ballot counter foil and verification sheet would be genuine and the vote switched. The only way it could be totally verifiable was if thumb prints were used on the actual ballot paper.

    I hope that PTI has considered this and selected the sample request accordingly.

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