LUMS vs Hoodbhoy: I’m losing job for ‘ideological reasons’, says professor

Published: October 25, 2012
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A debate was sparked online after an email, reportedly sent by Hoodbhoy to various offices at Lums, was made public.

A debate was sparked online after an email, reportedly sent by Hoodbhoy to various offices at Lums, was made public.

LAHORE: 

Conflicting accounts surround Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy’s upcoming departure from the Lahore University of Management Sciences (Lums). The professor alleges ideological differences are the reason his contract is not being renewed, something which the university denies.

Dr Hoodbhoy’s current contract expires in December.

A debate was sparked online after an email, reportedly sent by him to various offices at Lums, was made public. In the email, Dr Hoodbhoy has listed the reasons given to him by the administration for not renewing his contract. The professor has in response detailed his teaching and research activities.

Dr Hoodbhoy, speaking to The Express Tribune confirmed that the email was authentic.

He said he had been informed, on October 11, by the Syed Babar Ali School of Science and Engineering dean that his contract would not be renewed “because of multiple reasons, which include failure to help recruit faculty and mentor junior faculty”. He said he was also told that he had “too much on his plate”.

Dr Hoodbhoy says he sent the email on October 15 to several offices, including Vice Chancellor Dr Adil Najam, Pro Chancellor Syed Babar Ali, SSE Dean Dr Sohail Qureshi and physics department Chair Sabieh Anwar. He says he is yet to receive a reply.

Dr Hoodbhoy joined Lums as a visiting professor in January 2011 with eligibility for a three-year contract. In November 2011, he says, he was told that as per the new policy at Lums he would be eligible for a one-year contract which would be renewed annually.

Dr Hoodbhoy says he received a year’s contract in April 2012, which was back dated to January. He says he was also told that his contract would not be extended because the university did not offer people above 60 positions as a visiting professor.

However, a Lums official, said on the condition of anonymity that on Oct 15, the SSE dean had discussed with faculty members a list of 15 visiting professors, all above 60, some of whom were approved.

“I fail to understand what exactly the issue is. Every now and then they come up with new complaints,” said Dr Hoodbhoy.

He says he recently faced a lot of criticism when he introduced a course titled Science and the Contemporary World Order. He says the course, which discusses science and politics, “gave rise to ideological differences”.

The university, however, denies allegations, saying that the matter is of a contractual nature. Vice Chancellor Dr Adil Najam, who is currently in Austria, told The Express Tribune via email and on the phone that the administration was “deeply hurt” by the allegations.

“Dr Hoodbhoy, whose intellect and contributions are admirable, was on a contract which ends in December,” said the VC. “Dr Hoodbhoy is not being expelled, terminated or fired.”

Dr Najam said that a similar review procedure was adopted for all visiting faculty members at the institute.

The vice chancellor also denied Dr Hoodbhoy’s allegations that the course he had recently offered had resulted in ‘ideological differences’, “The decision not to renew the contract was not influenced by his choice of courses. The university encourages and welcomes new courses.”

“Such decisions are often not easy because they concern our colleagues who we care for,” said Dr Najam, “Anyone can agree or disagree with the decision but accusations of malice or ill-intent are incorrect and hurtful.”

The letter can be read here

Published in The Express Tribune, October 25th, 2012. 

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Reader Comments (132)

  • just_someone
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:08AM

    So, universities let go of people for multiple reasons. As long as the professor doesnt have tenure, the university is in right to let go of non-tenured faculty.
    IF he was tenured and the university was trying to fire him, then I can understand why it should be a big deal but currently this is just another case of a disgruntled employee!

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  • bangash
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:11AM

    Its a loss to LUMS and also for Pakistan. Anyone who speaks out or stands up to evil in Pakistan like Dr Hoodhbhoy or Malala Yousafzai or Benazir Bhutto are shut down however Malik Ishaaq can walk the streets a free man.

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  • gp65
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:13AM

    If the few people who question old ways of thinking are pushed out of the system, where will the mindset change come from? Sad to hear this.

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  • Sonia Wahab
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:15AM

    Dear Hoodhbhoy,
    Academia in Pakistan is fundamentalist. They are coward people and they would never let you educate peopel towards progressive Pakistan.
    Its a culture of bullying and harrassment which would prevail forever.

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  • Javed sahibzada
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:38AM

    Lums, you have become a madrassa, the most logical and honest answer is DR has shadowed the other staff through his knowledge.

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  • Saad Durrani
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:49AM

    I hope we keep him here in one of our universities, rather than getting him exported.

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  • Oct 25, 2012 - 1:58AM

    So why is the contract not being renewed, if not because of the ideological differences?

    Because the reasons they gave (as described in Hoodbhoy’s letter) make no sense.

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  • Saad Aziz
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:59AM

    i love hoodbhoyRecommend

  • :(
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:59AM

    Although LUMS has full right to fire or hire any person as they desire, loosing a great asset like Sir. Hoodbhoy is THEIR loss.

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  • Daniyal
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:05AM

    I am currently a student of LUMS, and have attended a couple of debate sessions in which Dr. Hoodbhoy took part. Even though I didn’t agree with many of his views on politics and religion, his prowess in the field of science was never in doubt. Needless to say, his not being part of the LUMS faculty will be a great loss to the institution. And no one can say for sure what went on behind closed doors that led to the non-renewal of Dr. Hoodbhoy’s contract, there might have been valid reasons for all I know, but if it indeed was because ideological reasons, then LUMS administration could not have done a bigger injustice to the reputation and standing of LUMS as a guiding light among Pakistani educational institutions.

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  • UseIt
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:07AM

    without going much into the details, I think LUMS shouldn’t let go of a man of his calibre

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  • Ardent
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:12AM

    @just_someone: You talk about term and legal/constructive obligation? How about something that doesn’t come under law? 10 years of service to SSE? The least Pervez deserved was the truth and it was duly denied.

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  • Zain
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:13AM

    Since his courses were popular, he was overseeing senior projects and completing research work as well, what legitimate reasons would there be for the University not to renew his contract, except financial? And financial reasons seem to be hardly the issue here. It clearly seems like ideological differences and personal grudges clashing to get a prominent academic removed from faculty.

    He served for 37 years at QaU, much problems with faculty and other conservatives trying to get rid off him, but they failed. Two years at LUMS and that was it.

    And for those who will suggest ‘but it is a private university and can do what they want’ – it is a university and is an institution performing a public duty & providing public utility as a place of learning. It can and must be discussed, debated and criticized publicly. Universities are as much places of debate as they are of learning. So to criticize LUMS for not renewing the contract is legitimate and should be done by all and sundry.

    Looks to have become too ugly for things to be mended now. It’s sad.

    I do hope LUMS does go ahead with a transparent appeals process (if Dr Hoodbhoy choose to appeal), not raises walls of silence. In multiple public affairs of denial of tenure (a similar circumstance really), we have seen far more transparent processes worldwide (Ignacio Chapela at UC Berkeley, Guillermo Gonzalez at ISU, Norman Finkelstein at DePaul). I don’t have high expectations about transparency in this case. It is Pakistan after all.

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  • Sultan Mehmood
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:13AM

    Hoohbhoy is such a cry baby!

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  • Sara
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:15AM

    LUMS is following a proper set of rules. It seems unlikely that the highly educated Dr. Adil Najam would have ‘ideological differences’ with Dr. Hoodbhoy. I’m surprised that a respectable professor such as Dr. Hoodbhoy would turn this into an issue and take it to the media. This is ruining his own and LUMS’s reputation.

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  • Asad Ali
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:15AM

    I think when your contract expires and if you are half as good a you claim, mr. Hoodhboy, then this whole drama shouldn’t have been not there!

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  • Sami
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:17AM

    You leaked your letter which has sparked ideological debate among LUMS students for no reasn!! That is morally wrong.. You will get another job.. Mr Professor.. Keep looking. just don’t act like this.. it’s shameful!

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  • Annie
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:19AM

    Leaked your letter to get attention.. haw haw Hoodboy! Not Good!

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  • [email protected]
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:21AM

    Ad hominem attacks on the LUMS admin won’t solve this issue. As a former student, and as a long time admirer of Dr. Adil Najam, I doubt LUMS is firing people for “ideological” reasons. LUMS is well within its rights to let go of faculty who are not doing what the school needs done. May be the university felt it needed senior researchers and professors who would attract and mentor promising young potential for the institution’s long term growth, instead of being more interested in using the university’s platform for preaching their own ideological views on politics and science. Fact of the matter is, we all know Dr. Hoodbhoy more for his politics than his research. LUMS SSE needs scientists not ideologues.

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  • Luminite
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:23AM

    It’s a shame that LUMS is letting go of Dr. Hoodbhoy. He’s been a great professor and an inspiring person. There’s no doubt that this is a step backwards for LUMS.
    The administration never fails to disappoint. It’s like the students are non-existent for them.

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  • Umer
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:36AM

    The letter has made some allegations to which LUMS has not replied to and side stepped the issue. It seems to me that LUMS has something to hide. There is something not quite explainable at their end.

    Vice Chancellor Dr Adil Najam, who is currently in Austria, told The Express Tribune via email and on the phone that the administration was “deeply hurt” by the allegations.

    Quit the emotional tirade Mr Vice Chancellor and explain why were allegations made against Hoodbhouy which LUMS now cannot backup.

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  • Salar
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:50AM

    Hoodhboy wants some dirty politics!! and to malign an institute like LUMS is just ridiculous!

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  • Saba
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:53AM

    Well, from the look of it.. Hoodbhoy looks guilty.

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  • Nasir
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:58AM

    lolz Hoodhboy! You want any some tissues?

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  • Karim Buksh
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:58AM

    To all those who think that Dr Hoodbhoy leaked his letter to get attention, well obviously you do not understand anything about taking a stand on a matter of principle. The fact is Dr Hoodbhoy has made his case very clear and the very least he deserves is a straightforward answer. However, he is receiving evasions, shifting reasons, etc. This indicates that the administration has not been straightforward and probably does not have much of a case. Shame on them. If they can treat a respected professor this way it does not augur well for how they will treat lesser faculty. Very sad behaviour.

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  • Areeba
    Oct 25, 2012 - 3:02AM

    How a physics professor can have ideological difference. I hope LUMS administration doesn’t disagree with gravity, because the way Hoodhboy doesn’t is desperately attracted to LUMS got to prove them wrong..

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  • Class Conflict T-20
    Oct 25, 2012 - 3:02AM

    This is a strategy: get teachers to produce managers for the dean’s big companies and DO NOT produce thinkers and entrepreneurs that Hoodieboy was onto.

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  • kanwal
    Oct 25, 2012 - 4:00AM

    Its like MIT letting go of Noam Chomsky, except of course, they did nt. Is LUMS also getting funds from Saudis or what? A man of this stature should be made a national professor let alone being on contract. I am in biological sciences for the last 10 yrs now and would love to see this professor in faculty just for daring to be an honest, loud and just voice and for introducing course like the one he did. A certain loss for Lums.

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  • Ovais
    Oct 25, 2012 - 4:02AM

    oh comeon ,, he can be fired … he is too old anyways… with tought budgets its the right approach .Recommend

  • Umer
    Oct 25, 2012 - 4:41AM

    LUMS makes allegations against Hoodbhoy. Hoodbhoy challenges the allegations. LUMS runs away and cries that its deeply hurt. What a cry baby LUMS is. Don’t start something if you can’t finish it.

    Hoodbhoy 1 – LUMS 0

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  • Dr.X
    Oct 25, 2012 - 4:50AM

    He’s not the first or the last faculty member to be no longer associated with LUMS. As an institution, it has made that decision many times keeping in mind it’s academic agenda. A few years ago, when I was studying there, an Islamic professor named Kamaluddin had to leave the faculty as well. I don’t see anyone shouting about that (probably because he was a moulvi and the ‘ideological’ debate wouldn’t have been that exciting for the liberals). Hoodbhoy is only ruining his own reputation.

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  • S
    Oct 25, 2012 - 4:54AM

    why is a science teacher teaching course on politics and or religion? Most of the people supporitng hoodboy probably dont even know what the content of the this course was. If a professor was fired because he is involving Islam in science, all these liberals supporting hoodboys “principle” stand would have be shouting in support of lums

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  • Uza Syed
    Oct 25, 2012 - 5:10AM

    It is a bad decision based on whatever excuses but the fact that a teacher like Prof. Hoodbhoy is much too dangerous for the idealogues who have hijacked the whole education system over here and LUMS is no exception. Someone like Dr. Hoodbhoy can and does induce and provoke thinking in his students and as one can imagine what thinking minds can and usually do, they ask intriguing questions and demand answers and often provide answers. This is not acceptable to a society like ours which has been raised on the notion of ‘blind faith’ and groomed to submit to any and all ‘diktats’. This is not what Hoodbhoy is all about or could be expected from those who have been educated by him. Anyone, who really cares about Pakistan and its development must finally see and value the thinking minds and teachers like Prof. Dr. Pervaiz Hoodbhoy.

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  • just_someone
    Oct 25, 2012 - 5:12AM

    @Ardent:
    Sir,
    I am an academic and I can tell you hundreds of examples of non-tenured faculty who were lecturers for 15 years and let go within a 3 month notice. Service is service but that service is not done for free, people are paid for their service.
    In academics, the whole concept of tenure exists such that really good people can not be fired on ideological/personal grounds. If Dr Hoodbouy is as good of a researcher as people claim him to be (which is probably incorrect because only an academic physicists can attest to that) why did he take a non-tenured offer to begin with? He should have bargained for a tenured offer, No one gives up a tenured offer for a non-tenured one, you always ask for a matched tenured offer.
    The simple fact is what LUMS did is absolutely correct since there is no such thing as loyalty in employee/employers relations. He could have left in a heartbeat hence he should be allowed to be let go as per his contract. This is just how the world works!

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  • Ahsan
    Oct 25, 2012 - 5:28AM

    Hoodbhoy ! We stand by you. LUMS should provide convincing argument for Prof. Hoodbhouy’s non-renewal of conract !

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  • Oct 25, 2012 - 5:36AM

    Love Hoodbhouy !

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  • Ali
    Oct 25, 2012 - 6:03AM

    I am sorry does Dr. Hoodbhoy thinks himself of as Dr. Norman Finkelstein, if so than please wake up your not.

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  • Pragmatist
    Oct 25, 2012 - 6:03AM

    Even the universities in Pakistan have caught the fundamentalist disease !! Not much can save the nation now.

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  • Something Clever
    Oct 25, 2012 - 6:20AM

    If the letter is accurate, the reason behind the decision is obviously one that even they know would receive negative publicity backlash. The reasons wouldn’t be all over the place like that otherwise. A straight forward, blunt and valid reasoning towards the reason can only work in their favor. It shows the actual reason isn’t one to proudly advertise.
    But, renewing a contract can be done at their discretion. It’s not the same as firing someone for questionable reasons. They can have the worst and most bigoted reasons in the world and still legitimately deny a contract renewal. They just can’t get rid of you for them while the contract is still valid. Though that doesn’t mean they’d still admit to those reasons because they know their image would be hit hard if they did.

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  • random
    Oct 25, 2012 - 6:23AM

    our whole nation should be taught discussion and critical thinking skills from the start. So that when they grow up and think they are all smart and eloquent, they also are able to understand the other point of view and reply to that. What i see above is for and against people are continuing to write down their own point of view without answering the queries of the other view.

    The arguments essentially are

    For LUMS : he was on contract, contract expires and its not being renewed. Happens the world over. So get over it and move on

    For Dr Sb: He is being singled out based on his ideology and that is the reason for his termination.

    I Myself like most of the people commenting here, do not know the details of what and why. but since this issue is now blown to the big scale LUMS should come out open in terms of why Dr.Hoodboy’s contract renewed. for sake of the name of the University

    A LUMS Alumni

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  • Fahd
    Oct 25, 2012 - 6:26AM

    Totally shocked at the comments here. Being an ex lumunite, LUMS is the most open and tolerant place of ideological differences in Pakistan. People from conflicting ideologies exist and thrive here. Infact, people with more leftist and secular views are teaching here at LUMS and hoodbhoy knows that. To say that ideological differences led to his release is an immature statement from him. When hoodbhoy joined, he made a similar issue regarding some course and sent an email to everyone without sorting out matters with the admin.

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  • Lyari
    Oct 25, 2012 - 6:50AM

    How can a liberal professor survived 37 years in a conservative university, but get fired in a so called liberal college?

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  • mahmood
    Oct 25, 2012 - 7:07AM

    I can see the Establishment’s hand behind this. An outspoken, anti-Establishment professor crosses some ‘red lines’ with his criticism especially in the aftermath of May 2, 2011. A consummate Establishment man joins as VC. The latter is tasked to show this ‘dangerous man’ the highway. A case is manufactured out of thin air to retrofit the end goal. And the hit man pulls the trigger as he is paid to do.

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  • kanwal
    Oct 25, 2012 - 7:17AM

    I have a strong feeling that lots of people here have not bothered to thoeoughly read Hoodbhoy’s letter whose link is given above. If he has proof of what he has said in it, then some people at LUMS are in serious breach of accademic and administerial protocols and may even have agendas of their own. This should be thoroughly investigated. We cant let a scholor like PH treated this way.

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  • Ammar
    Oct 25, 2012 - 7:37AM

    I fail to understand why this is being turned into an issue worthy of national news.

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  • Shayan
    Oct 25, 2012 - 7:44AM

    I had alot of respect for Hoodboy before this fiasco of his. I guess he is susceptible to the same ethical pitfalls as any disgruntled employee.

    “because of multiple reasons, which include failure to help recruit faculty and mentor junior faculty”. This is a more believable and unfortunately prevalent reason.

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  • Ch. Allah Daad
    Oct 25, 2012 - 8:31AM

    Dr. Hoodbhoy should not have gone public. Its a private university and it can or refuse to renew his contract. Recommend

  • Usman Qazi
    Oct 25, 2012 - 8:51AM

    Hoodhboy is being supported bacuse he is liberal? ain’t that cute..!

    Liberal is a person who deosn’t go to extreme.. even if it is extreme crying! ;)

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  • de'Capolo
    Oct 25, 2012 - 8:57AM

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  • Abdul Rafay
    Oct 25, 2012 - 9:00AM

    Hoodhboy knew good physics.. But if you heard his knowledge on politics and the sweping generalizations he would make on history! Well, that would be legitimate cause for firing him.. he offerent a course on politics.. so no complaints..

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  • stating the obvious
    Oct 25, 2012 - 9:07AM

    Obligatory Einstein quote —

    “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly.”

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  • Hashmi
    Oct 25, 2012 - 10:31AM

    LUMS should not compromise on its principles and policies…

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  • baba
    Oct 25, 2012 - 11:19AM

    I wonder Why people making claims that LUMS becoming madarssa ?? Lums is becoming more modern than it ever was before and if you don’t believe it thn go visit there. I am a luminite and i myself think that over the last two-three years LUMS has changed and trust me its No where close to madarssa. and those who are saying he has been letting go by LUMS because of ideological reasons they should KNOW that LUMS also let go/fired Moulana Kamal uddin.

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  • Waleed Ashraf
    Oct 25, 2012 - 11:28AM

    @bangash:
    I do agree that letting Mr. Hoodbhoy go is a loss for LUMS but lets not link this incident with the brutality in Malala’s case. The administration has its reasons for not renewing his contract. Mr. Hoodbhoy, being an employee should have shown some flexibility towards the administration which he failed to do. Further, Mr. Hoodbhoy started focusing on other fields which are precisely not his specialty and started applying them to the brilliant minds of Pakistan at LUMS. I still hope the administration and Mr. Hoodbhoy would find a way to settle their diffferences but Mr. Hoodbhoy should not have made it public. This is going to have an adverse effect on the image of one of the most prestigious universities of Pakistan.

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  • karim
    Oct 25, 2012 - 11:57AM

    @Umer:
    its a straightforward reply, the one like professor’s.

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  • Paki
    Oct 25, 2012 - 12:11PM

    After everything thats happened, i dont get what hope he has of continuing tenure. you cant continue your job after you have declared war with the admin. its pointless to talk of this now.

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  • Raza Khan
    Oct 25, 2012 - 12:11PM

    It would a very sad day if an institution like LUMS would let go a world renowned scientist Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy. People like PH are very rare in Pakistan. He can earn 20 times more salary if he goes abroad but he want to serve his country. Please reconsider!

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  • Banday
    Oct 25, 2012 - 12:48PM

    If we look from economic perspective, LUMS is a commercial entity, which is supposed to develop a marketable brand for raking in profits for its sponsors. Such organizations remain careful in not attracting bad press. Now, Mr. Hoodbhoy has a brand value for his personality, whether one likes his views or not. When LUMS hired him a year ago, they must be knowing about his background. However, it appears that his style becomes too hot to handle for the conservative establishment of LUMS. With nothing to lose any more, Mr. Hoodbhoy is on the offense. And the paragons of market economy, i.e. LUMS, has to defend its brand from being depicted as a base of conformity. I think that LUMS has made a business mistake of diluting a brand that should espoused diversity of opinions in academia.

    I am sorry, as per the market economy principles, Mr. Hoodbhoy has the full right to make a frontal attack to safeguard his name & interest. We know that not much is going to happen to the money flowing in for LUMS. As it is working in an oligopoly market, where there are not many competitors to match it…& it can live with a bad press…

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  • Feroz Baig
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:02PM

    Dear Hoodbhoy, Now believe it that this is also Science, not any “difference in ideological reasons”… lol

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  • Beatle
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:16PM

    He openly and repeatedly expresses and propogates anti-Pakistan and idealogy, (e.g.) against our nuclear programme. Above all the very creation of our homeland. Perhaps he follows the line of his fellow Parsi so-called inetllectual Ardeshir Cowasjee.

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  • Asli-Pakistani.
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:18PM

    Dear All,

    Please avoid putting emotional or demotivated comments about Dr. Hoodhboy. In the education industry of Pakistan LUMS is #1 in private sector followed by some others.

    It’s a business , when there are no expected results we cannot keep Hoodhboy

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  • Umer
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:19PM

    @Ch. Allah Daad:

    Dr. Hoodbhoy should not have gone public. Its a private university and it can or refuse to renew his contract.

    Why not? If LUMS has made false allegations against him he has every right to defend those? Recommend

  • Umer
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:24PM

    @de’Capolo:

    No individual is bigger than the organization

    But are principles important for LUMS supporters? Apparently not. Why does LUMS make allegations which it cannot backup?

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  • Taliban Supported by Afghanis
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:32PM

    we dont know both sides of the story, so taking sides is foolish.

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  • Pro Truth
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:33PM

    He may not be pleased, but in contract jobs no organisation has a compulsion to renew the contract for any reason.

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  • Khurram Awan
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:37PM

    @Abdul Rafay: Mr Rafay your comment is cause of concern for me as you are stating that Politicial belief and generalizations are a cause of concern in organizations and in democratic norms it is pretty alarming. Kindly study Democratic countries and my American friend in Harvard is Physicist and Researcher and active Republican supporter on the campus and his Political Believes and propagation have nothing to do with his Professional work in Harvard at all and it will never be the case of firing in Democratic country like America. .

    @Ch. Allah Daad: Mr Chaudary you are stating that Dr Hoodbhoy should not go public as it is a Private university??. On ET you are a PMLN supporter and Sorry to say you are showing us this mindset here as well that everyone must remain silent like your party does used to be. When LUMS leveled allegations against Dr HoodBhoy then he has the right to clear himself. Also did you even bothered to even see the letter and the reasons of firing him does not fit well at all

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  • SurelySure!!
    Oct 25, 2012 - 1:46PM

    i consider both Drs as highly learned and liberal. lets hope for a quick fix! we need Dr. Hoodbhai working for Pakistan.

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  • Indian Wisdom
    Oct 25, 2012 - 2:56PM

    Very unfortunate!!! He has been punished for being liberal.
    A big loss for LUMS.

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  • usman
    Oct 25, 2012 - 3:12PM

    If all the posts will be taken by retired people what left for young people. When intellectual or powerful of this nation learn that there is time to say goodbye before people fed up of you. Nobody is indispensable and many of self beleived indispensable are no more. still country and institutes where they work running.

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  • IBA4liFe
    Oct 25, 2012 - 3:33PM

    education should never have been privatized

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  • Umer
    Oct 25, 2012 - 3:40PM

    @Ch. Allah Daad:

    Dr. Hoodbhoy should not have gone public.

    Just like the recent bakery case was hushed up recently? We know where you are coming from.

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  • Oct 25, 2012 - 3:54PM

    Hoodhboy might have thought to turn his student into good human being, as for as our universities are concerned, the are producing good scientist, doctors entrepreneurs and bankers but not at all human being. dear Hoodhboy! the people behind the draconian ideologies are very deep rooted and strong that is why their presence is prevalent and their impacts is overwhelming. let the people enjoy their life under Taliban rule then they will realize what is religious fundamentalism and how people’s life suffers under the rule/ideology of fundamentalist.

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  • Who has lost
    Oct 25, 2012 - 3:54PM

    LUMS: you lose! You are acting like Bums! Do you even realize this? I don’t know Prof. Hoodbhoy personally, have never corresponded with him, don’t even agree with all that he writes, but I do know this … he is thousand times more ethical, honest, devoted, and intellectually superior to almost all your faculty.

    Those of you trying to decide the fate of this MIT-trained nuclear physicist cannot even hold a candle to him, being that you are biased products of third-rate institutions plagued with intellectual dishonesty and plagiarism. What do you know about intellectual honesty, excellence, devotion, dedication, ethical behavior, work ethic, …. ?

    If he were self-centered and selfish like many of us Pakistanis, he could have stayed in the US and gotten lifetime tenure at any of the top US universities including MIT or Caltech. Shame on you. Remember, it is your loss, not Hoodbhoy’s!Recommend

  • Bilal
    Oct 25, 2012 - 3:56PM

    @kanwal “Its like MIT letting go of Noam Chomsky”

    Really?? what is the comparison??

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  • Abi Valtar
    Oct 25, 2012 - 4:10PM

    It seems to me that some people commenting here have never seen the insides of an institution delivering higher education.
    Judging an academic based on ideology and superstitious beliefs has never worked and will never work. But if people don’t appreciate modern age education, this is what happens.

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  • bibyawari
    Oct 25, 2012 - 4:29PM

    I believe LUMS has its own policy like any govt or public organization, hence, as an employee one is bound to comply with its policies. With due respect and regard for PH, he should not have made this thing public, also involving Jaffe (a high authority of governing board) directly by an instructor level seems to be an interference in the high level management as well as going against the decorum. Moreover, any organization including LUMS has the right to fire or to not renew the contract, if someone is not performing or showing compliance to the organization’s policies.

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  • bibyawari
    Oct 25, 2012 - 4:40PM

    @Khurram Awan: Its unethical, because it was something between LUMS and PH, when LUMS was offering PH a position, did LUMS public it on ET etc.

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  • Lala Gee
    Oct 25, 2012 - 4:49PM

    I have a few points to make.

    1- It is amazing to know that Syed Babar Ali is using yahoo email account for his official business (came to know from the letter sent by Hoodbhoy). Looks like LUMS, Systems Limited, and Packages all have pathetic IT infrastructure, despite Systems Limited being an IT concern owned by himself.

    2- LUMS is a private entity, and legally they have every right not to renew anyone’s contract for whatever sinister reasons. As one commentator rightly pointed out that PHB should have been judicious before accepting the contractual terms.

    3- He was certainly, beyond any doubt, not giving 100% of his energies and devotion to his job and profession due to his other interests and engagements. Had he had not invested himself in other endeavors, he would have fared much better in his professional career.

    4- If he is as talented and capable as he likes to make others believe, I can assure him that there is always a place at the top, no matter how worse are the conditions. He shouldn’t have engaged in a hostile media campaign against his formal employer, as this was not the end of the world and there could have been many more possibilities in the future. No employer look at such acts sympathetically, and would be a problem for him in his future job seeking.

    5- Last, not the least, as he would be free soon, perhaps India would like to benefit from his wisdom and offer him a top notch job. I am sure the Indian commentators here, who are the biggest fan of his intellectual ingenuity, would vigorously support this move. I am also very sure, they would applaud him then also for his tireless campaigns of denuclearization and demilitarization of India with the same verve they tribute him now in case of Pakistan.

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  • Khurram Awan
    Oct 25, 2012 - 4:51PM

    University of Karachi or any University of Sindh should took Dr Hoodbhoy. Sindhis are way too tolerant than the rest of the country and they should prove it this time. The best thing is to make him the Head of Physics Department in Karachi University and all people should welcome him here.

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  • abdullah
    Oct 25, 2012 - 5:13PM

    As Sir Pervez was at QAU before where he was using department forum and resources in areas not related to physics at all such as running movies, launching ceremony poetry books, debates on political and religious issues etc
    Also he used to spend a lot of time on talk shows on politics and religion.
    You can also check his articles in last 5 years to see how many he has written in his research area and how many on politics
    To me its fine but an employer may not want to pay a person for a professor position in physics who spends most of his time writing on politics
    So, I think there are genuine reasons by LUMS
    They dont want to hire a person on a heavy amount who spends most of his time on something else

    At the end why is so much drama created on his termination ..Why is he so special that BBC has to write on it?…..I think every employer is free to extend or terminate the contract and an employ use these pressure tactics to blackmail the employer

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  • RJ
    Oct 25, 2012 - 5:17PM

    Just convert LUMS to a Madrassa already! Why maintain this facade of a progressive educational institution when they are intolerant of critical thought?

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  • Dinar Wali
    Oct 25, 2012 - 5:19PM

    I have always thought highly on LUMS and always thought to have my post- graduate education at LUMS because the environment under which LUMS operate make it as one of the finest University in Pakistan. But I am bewildered since this story of terminating Pervez Hoodbhoy contract just because his belief and vision do not reflect LUMS vision.
    Dr, Pervez is probably the best Physicist in Pakistan since Dr, Salam and he is one of the best mind and intllect currently in our disposal. I think Pervez Hoodboy is an institution in itself, It is Lums who need Hoodbhoy not Hoodboy who need LUMS. He can teach at any world finest universities be that Harvard, Princeton, Yale, MIT so on so forth. But we need him desperately here in Pakistan therefore It would be better that LUMS offer him full time employment. He is an asset to LUMS and Pakistan.

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  • RJ
    Oct 25, 2012 - 5:24PM

    Thats what you get for opposing the magnificent Water Car invention! Our brilliant AQK is probably chuckling “Gotcha!”

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  • Oct 25, 2012 - 5:53PM

    The termination of Dr Hoodbhoy’s teaching services is a serious matter. He is one of the leading physicists of Pakistan. His contribution as a science teacher and his struggle against fanatic Islamists in Pakistan are of great
    significance. Even though I have not always found his uncritical support of American policies from some of his articles I had read, but I have always respected his work as a science teacher and researcher. I hope the university authorities will reconsider their decision about his job and do not let any narrow considerations stand in any way regarding his job. To terminate his services will be a big loss, a national loss for all of us.

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  • Ali
    Oct 25, 2012 - 6:47PM

    Could this be the Pakistani version of the Dershowitz-Finkelstein affair? If so I wonder who acted as Alan Dershowitz

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  • Khalq e Khuda
    Oct 25, 2012 - 7:09PM

    Pervez Hoodbhoy is absolutely right in raising a cry. The rightists in Pakistan ‘purified’ the public sector universities during Zia era with perfectly legal excuses. If LUMS must fall to jamatis it should not be without a fight.

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  • Bill Maher (SFO)
    Oct 25, 2012 - 7:21PM

    This one reason that I would to register my strongest opposition to the treatment tendered to Prof. Hoodbhoy. He is one of the finest thinkers and balances science with it’s implications on social issues. The 60 yrs limit a lot of baloney. In academia there is no upper age limit. Professor John Nash is a fine example.

    I do not know the regious sect that Prof. Hoodbhoy belongs to, but it it a sheer travestity not only for LUMS, but whole of Pakistan. When will we learn? Prof Abdus Salam and now this?

    I thought universities were the core for faculty development and non-partisan, non-religious, non-political etc. I guess I was wrong. LUMS is no different than BYU that one must conform to a religious belief to be able to teach there. If LUMS is that sort of university, fine. O/w, I fail to see the reason.
    ..ps

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  • kanwal
    Oct 25, 2012 - 7:49PM

    @bilal
    I said that its like MIT letting go Chomsky because i do consider him Chomsky of pakistan and LUMS as MIT (of sorts…lol) for pakistan. Theadministration of Pakistani universities is much more conservative though, than the admin at many leading USA universities. If LUMS has done to him what he alleges and if he has proof of this, by all means, he should drag them to court and press. I have lived long enough in local and foreign academics to appreciate the kind of corruption that can happen here. So this should be investigated. Just imagine the bullying juniir faculty may be facing if this is the norm.

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  • sid Taji
    Oct 25, 2012 - 8:29PM

    It is unfortunate to see that our academic institutions are also playing politics. Whatever Prof. Hoodbhoy says in the print media is his own opinion, and he should not be punished for it. But, then again our country has a history of victimizing people for their thoughts, religion, ethnicity, sects, etc. etc.

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  • Naeem khan Manhattan,Ks
    Oct 25, 2012 - 8:34PM

    It is LUMS loss because he is a world class intellectual and teacher.

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  • Raza
    Oct 25, 2012 - 8:54PM

    They havent fired him as some people here are insinuating. Lums has a right not to renew his contract. Its not an injustice please; its LUMS’ decisions for whatever their reasons. And its their loss too if he’s an asset.

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  • Hamad
    Oct 25, 2012 - 10:21PM

    Dr Hoodbhouy served 35 years in Quaid-E-Azam Uni(QAU) Islamabad Marry land uni USA. QAU Islambad is not just kept him for 35 years, He also got Chairmanship in physics dept. QAU provide him with all the freedom of thinking and talking for prograssive
    Very sad to say LUMS just get tired of him after one years. for his certain progressive ideology. This shows QAU is the most tolerant and Liberal institution of Pakistan. We are proud on QAU.
    Shame on Fake liberal LUMS.

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  • Hamad
    Oct 25, 2012 - 10:23PM

    Mr Hoodbhouy please come Back to Quaid_e-Azam uni Islamabad, we all miss you lot!! here you will have all freedom and progressive environment of Thinking.

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  • Wowemkay
    Oct 25, 2012 - 10:50PM

    Dr Hoodhbhoy has perhaps been spoilt by the secure and much under appreciated environment of a public university i.e. QAU where he was a frequent and strident critic of academic mediocrity and financial greed and scandals. His outstanding academic achievements and the employment rules of the public sector allowed him to flourish, albeit with much malice and consternation from some.
    At LUMS, regardless of whether it is or is becoming a madrassah, it was easy for him to forget that he is an employee of a seth managed family firm with a few ‘academic henchmen’ being devoted to their seth masters to fulsome degrees. He has just learned that and sadly, the imported Rs 28 lacs a month VC is just the hatchet man for the job on Dr Hoodhbhoy. Sad and shameful, but please don’t forget that LUMS is very much Pakistani.

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  • Mr. T
    Oct 25, 2012 - 11:01PM

    Make it public – the most favourite defence of the weak, imperfect or guilty!!!

    Thats what Mr Hoodbhoy is up to… Tomorrow if my employer lets me go for not performing, Should i make it headline news?? A question which we all need to ask ourselves…

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  • besieged by mediocrity
    Oct 25, 2012 - 11:12PM

    What we need to really appreciate is that as it is there is a dearth of liberal and progressive public intellectuals in our country. There are not many amongst us who have the courage to question dogma and promote critical analysis of the issues confronting this country. Dr. Hoodbhoy is a significant voice of reason in this context. You may not always agree with him but you have to honestly value the rigor and principles that he brings to the larger discourse. Academics are often blamed for being self-indulgent and disconnected with society. Now here is one academic who does attempt to raise the level of the national debate and this is how we treat him. In order to move forward Pakistanis will have to value such individuals. And the few remaining somewhat professional institutions like LUMS will have to bolster a culture where such voices continue to be heard, even if the gloom of ignorance and intolerance grows deeper all round us.
    As to the ill-informed comments about non-tenured faculty being amenable to removal with little notice and also why Dr. Hoodbhoy did not bargain for a tenured position it would be pertinent to note that LUMS recently introduced an inexplicable retirement age of 60 and got rid of many professors of many years standing. Also, that the tenure system is still not fully in place and how do you expect people to be tenured if there is hardly any tenured faculty around to assess their tenure applications. Dr. Hoodbhoy is only one in a long series of intellectuals at LUMS who had a global reputation due to their expertise and work. Even the leading universities in the world seek out and cherish well known and proven intellectuals as trophies and they in turn define the tenor and ethos of such places. Unfortunately, it seems that LUMS wants to retain and sustain pygmies – tankhwadar mulazim rather than danishwar – rather than thinkers with a vision beyond teaching classes that engages with influencing the national discourse.

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  • Ch. Allah Daad
    Oct 26, 2012 - 2:18AM

    @ Umer, If LUMS has not met contractual obligations then Dr. Sahib should have gone to court. Going public and making it a political issue against his own employer is not what I expected from him. The people with his calibre should be providing jobs not crying like a baby on losing job.

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  • Usama
    Oct 26, 2012 - 2:42AM

    Dear Pervaiz Hoodbhoy,

    Your academic achievements as well as intellectual level way surpasses the mediocre standard of teaching environment provided anywhere across Pakistan, even LUMS. I only have one word for you: RESPECT.

    Regards,
    Ex-SSE rusticated alumnus
    ~Usama

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  • AllahRukha
    Oct 26, 2012 - 3:44AM

    With due respect, Dr. Hoodbhoy should decide what he wants to teach, Physics or Politics?

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  • The 21st Century
    Oct 26, 2012 - 4:08AM

    Mr. T wrote: “Tomorrow if my employer lets me go for not performing, should I make it headline news?”

    That depends on two things:

    Were you really not performing (or was it just a flimsy excuse)?

    Do you happen to be an internationally-respected specialist at the very top of your field?

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  • Sakib
    Oct 26, 2012 - 9:00AM

    Dr. Hoodbhoy: your achievements and services in the field of physics and research are much appreciated.

    Surprise to know that place such as LUMS doesn’t tolerate ideological differences, if this is true then “Pakistan ka Allah hafiz.”

    It was not good for LUMS and education that this made public. Damage done.

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  • Ali S
    Oct 26, 2012 - 1:32PM

    I don’t get what the problem is if he’s being fired on “ideological reasons”, i.e. he discusses his personal views on political and social issues with students in class. Although I am in med school, I personally know some professors who are fond of this and – although they might be adept at teaching their subject – as a result students miss out on valuable class time that should have been utilized for learning.

    LUMS is a private institution and students pay hefty fees to come there to study – Mr Hoodbhoy was hired at LUMS as a physicist, not a political commentator. It’s called professionalism and the so-called liberal media should stop blowing this issue out of proportion and approach it more objectively.

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  • Saima
    Oct 26, 2012 - 2:14PM

    LUMS is highly overrated only because of the otherwise sorry state of education in this country. So I think the prof. should seek out a better university preferably a public/govt. one which is doesn’t have such high fees for students.

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  • Tch tch
    Oct 26, 2012 - 4:07PM

    @kanwal:
    Chomsky revolutionised the entire discipline of linguistics and Behaviorism. He is on of the most cited people on the planet.He edited the Pentagon papers. His books on politics and media have changed entire discourses.
    Hoodbhoy biggest accomplishment in the last five years was the “scholarly” debate he had with fellow luminary Agha Waqar on his novel thermodynamic theories.Even there he had to resort to petty name calling, and could not engage and question his “opponent” effectively like Prof Ata ur rehman.

    His opinion in politics are half baked, lacking in clarity in substance and not of any scholarly merit. His other pet peeve the state of science in Pakistan sounds more and more like a personal vendetta. Hence he could not even appreciate the some good Prof Ata ur rehman achieved with the HEC.His faux anti nuclear activism stinks of posturing.

    His best Physics research work was 25 or so years ago. His fifty or so papers have not made much of an impact.The only reason you know him is he is a tireless self promoter with a massive chip on his shoulder. He also is a andhon mein Karna Raja, who has not established anything to improve the lot of Pakistani Physicist.You don’t know anything about chomsky the comparison is insulting. Recommend

  • zohaq
    Oct 26, 2012 - 5:12PM

    @bangash: well said Yaqub!

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  • Karam Elahi Janjua
    Oct 26, 2012 - 5:15PM

    Private sector managements can be vain. What happened to Hoodbhoy or Nayyer is nothing new. In 2009, the management of FC College University got rid of Dr Pervez Tahir, a highly respected independent minded, in the very third month of his contract. His ideas on what should be taught were scandalised rather than debated.

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  • Naresh
    Oct 26, 2012 - 6:54PM

    LUMS Loss could very well be MIT’s or one of the IIT’s GAIN as he will be “WELCOMED” with Open Arms.
    .
    Dr. Hoodbhoy JI : Please walk away and go where you are “APPRECIATED, NEEDED & WANTED”.
    .
    Cheers

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  • M.Ahmad Khan
    Oct 26, 2012 - 7:05PM

    @bangash:
    Professor Hoodbhy should have taken his contract’s termination gracefully, without the sharp reaction that he has shown.LUMS is a prestiguous University, is dedicated to academic excellence , and is non political.I dont think the Professor is right.

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  • jehangir
    Oct 26, 2012 - 9:35PM

    the morale is: intellectual credentials are being polished by just showing Hoodboy that he can be shown the door… sir you deserved better

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  • nm
    Oct 27, 2012 - 11:15AM

    1] Hiring someone with a 3 year contract, and then replacing it with a BACKDATED one-year contract.. pretty much shows ethical standards and professionalism in the institute.

    2] “failure to help recruit faculty and mentor junior faculty”… the reasons cited for not renewing the contract are only funny. You expect a one-year tenured VISITING professor to also mentor junior faculty and help recruit new ones. One would only expect old and permanent faculty rather the deans to take that role.

    Also Hoodbhoy is not the one who can be blamed for not mentoring juniors he has been giving free lectures on science and runs an NGO and works with many others for no charge. He is the only professor in the whole country who has made his physics lectures freely available on the internet, everyone else only teaches for money here.

    His academic stature and caliber is higher than that of the dean who got rid of him and he has international repute and connections with notable international scholars and nobel prize winners and he would have been an asset as a professor in any university here.

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  • News
    Oct 27, 2012 - 11:24AM

    LUMS has a history of firing faculty for ideological differences. The famous Dr. Khalid Zaheer was one of them and he has written out his story in his website:
    http://blog.khalidzaheer.com/posts/32

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  • Ahmad Khan
    Oct 27, 2012 - 5:06PM

    [email protected]:

    Dr Hodbhoy should not have made an issue of premature termination of his contract.If it was made for ideological reasons, tha is not something objectionable.What ideaology ,in what context, does the Professor profess or subscribe to.The Professor has not elaborated on that.On the whole this is an unfortunate situation. A renowned Profesor gruumbling in public and accusing on emotional grounds.Very sad indeed. I am not siding with LUMS.Even if LUMS did it wrong, the issue should not have been made public.

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  • Faraz Kakar
    Oct 27, 2012 - 6:16PM

    Truth is treason in the Empire of lies

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  • K B Kale
    Oct 28, 2012 - 6:24AM

    I love reading Dr Hoodbhoy’s columns/articles. He is also very prompt in replying to nobody like me.

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  • DeshVidesh
    Oct 28, 2012 - 11:12AM

    I have followed Dr Hoodbhoy on YouTube as well heard some of his lectures. He is a gifted teacher and a great intellectual. I don’t think he is working for money at this stage in life, and he is doing his bit for Pakistan, both as a nuclear physicist and a social activist. Any institution would be honored to have a person of his caliber in their faculty, not just in Pakistan but internationally.

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  • Gul Khan
    Oct 28, 2012 - 11:41AM

    Aga Waqar 1
    Hoodbhoy 0
    LUMS 0

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  • K B Kale
    Oct 28, 2012 - 4:38PM

    @Sonia Wahab & @gp65
    I write regularly to Dr Hoodbhoy and though I am nobody in front of him (naacheej), he always replies not only politely but also promptly. I can’t see any trace of his being a ‘bully’ as some have alleged. Today I received his mail to my query and it is really in detail and polite. He has replied to all allegations/reasons that were given to him at different times and I feel that he is a polite person who has been ‘hit’ for reasons that do not appear proper.
    He is a great personality, has high achievements to his credit and I expected some ‘high-handedness’, but I can’t find any trace of it in his reply. In that respect, I would equate him to our APJ Abdul Kalam!
    Earlier also I had written to him about his article on the claims of an invention of “a car running on water” that attracted more than 800 responses. When I wrote to him, he was prompt & explained his point of view in detail. So I must disagree with his detractors. Biggest loss of his discontinuation from LUMS is to his poor students!
    God bless him!Recommend

  • deshvidesh
    Oct 28, 2012 - 11:38PM

    @AllahRukha: What is so wrong in teaching both? I teach science in the college and in my spare time I teach art. Am I not allowed to do anything other than teach in the college just because I am appointed there?

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  • forfreedomofexpression
    Oct 29, 2012 - 3:17PM

    LUMS can hire or fire anyone they like, but being influenced by a conservationist mindset in such actions is the greatest wrong they can do for their own students and their own country.

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  • S K Afridi
    Oct 29, 2012 - 5:26PM

    At the best, Dr. Hood Bhoy is a controversial figure and creates a negative impression on the students by indulging in unholy criticism of matters related to Pakistan’s security. He is believed to be working on anti Pakistan agenda at the behest of some foreign pay masters.

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  • Adeel
    Oct 29, 2012 - 6:20PM

    It has been learnt that Dr. Hoodbhoy was preaching religion and politics in during Physics lecture. Is this professionalism?

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  • Asif
    Oct 30, 2012 - 5:38AM

    What exactly is Dr. Hoodbhoy’s stature ? What has he accomplished in Physics over the last 30 years. I ask this question seriously !!

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  • K B Kale
    Oct 30, 2012 - 8:47PM

    @Adeel:
    @Asif:
    Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Hoodbhoy) gives extensive details of Dr Hoodbhoy’s achievements. I am copy-pasting the following highlights:
    • An Executive member of the board of Riazuddin National Center for Physics.
    • Member of the Board of Sponsors of The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.
    • Awarded UNESCO’s Kalinga Prize for the Popularization of Science in Pakistan.
    • His TV serials and film The Bell Tolls for Planet Earth won honorable mention at the Paris Film Festival.
    • A member of the Editorial Board of Pakistaniaat: A Journal of Pakistan Studies.

    He is also the recipient of:

    • Baker Award for Electronics[2] (1968).
    • Student-of-the-Year, Pakistan Students Association of America (1972).
    • Rockefeller Mauze Fellowship for graduate studies (1973).
    • Abdus Salam Award for Mathematics (1984).
    • Associate of the International Centre for Theoretical Physics (1986–1994).
    • Faiz Ahmed Faiz Award, for contributions towards the cause of education in Pakistan (1990).
    • “Book of the Year Award”, awarded by the National Book Council Of Pakistan (1993).
    • Fulbright Award (1997–1998) for research at the University of Maryland, College Park.
    • Selma V. Forkosch Prize (2003)
    • International Advisory Council of the Brookings Doha Center.
    • Civic Courage Award- 2007.
    • 2010 Joseph A. Burton Award (2010)

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  • Sadia Mirza
    Nov 1, 2012 - 10:43AM

    LUMS is a private University and it has its set of policies and procedures. PH was given a contract for a year. It is the University’s decision whether to renew the contract of the faculty or any staff for that matter on contract, WITHOUT being obligated to provide ANY justification or reason for not renewing the contract. There is absolutely no reason to abash the institute and bringing an employee-employer professional communication in public.

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  • Munir Ahmed Khawaja
    Nov 1, 2012 - 11:48AM

    We have limited intellectuals, who have equal caliber both on the pure science and the others faculties. We should respect their knowledge and try to get maximum benefit out of their wisdom. His overview on different things can be beneficial both for our young students and think tanks as well. Hoodbhoy is a true pakistani, we need such persons who educate our society for the tolerance and brotherhood. This is the true message of the all religion.
    if i would be the head of HEC or minister of education, I would like to see the Hoodbhoy as Vice chancellor of the Karachi or Quaid a Azam university Because he has the potential to lead our education to meet the challenges of the time and to compete the rest of the world in the very field.

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  • Bercha
    Nov 1, 2012 - 2:29PM

    PH must concentrate on Physics not on religious affairs or politics……Recommend

  • Mystic
    Nov 3, 2012 - 9:34AM

    Of course, ideological issues. The idea of LUMS was that a professor is supposed to teach and do research. The idea of PH was that a professor is there to preach and make merry.

    Ideological difference tau hona hi tha!

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  • Mustapha
    Nov 4, 2012 - 3:08PM

    Well, irrespective of who is right and wrong, LUMS should not have been dragged into this controversy. Dr. Hoodboy might be a brilliant professor, but the way this is being portrayed by him my sincere apologies to him.
    By no means everyone is perfect, but also by all means everyone has a right to hold an opinion. I would only hope that using media as a tool to convey one’s idea is a last resort.

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  • Kamran Naqvi
    Nov 9, 2012 - 5:12PM

    Cheap popularity gimmick by Hoodbhoy!! He talks more of Politics rather than his own subject of Physics.

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  • sudhir
    Nov 10, 2012 - 12:05AM

    The fact of the matter is that LUMS was totally fed up with this man and wanted to get rid of him for his artificiality and the false air he used to carry about himself.

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  • Suhaib Latif
    Nov 15, 2012 - 4:02PM

    PH Sir your contract is over so please go, whats the fuss.

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  • Ahmed
    Nov 19, 2012 - 2:34PM

    Hoodbhoy dont need such institutions but institutions need hoodbhoy for the reputation in international community of Universities.

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