Cleric says Saif, Kareena marriage cannot be termed as nikkah
Siddqui said that the religions of both the actors are different, and if Khan calls himself a Muslim, then he should marry according to Islamic law.
The cleric further said that if Kapoor wants to marry Khan, then she should first embrace Islam. He said as for now, the wedding taking place tomorrow is nothing “but a joke”.
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I wonder what this cleric has to say about saif ali's Sister Soha Ali who has a boy friend named Kunal Khemu .Who is a kashmiri Brahman
our ulema must move on and outgrow urge to poke their nose into the private life
of people . There are humendous problems facing muslims of the sub-continent : grinding
poverty hunger disease lack of education moral degeneration ,and so on. They should focus their attention and energies on a crusade against such problems and tell people what guidance Islam offers in this respect . Stop acting as moral police and manufacturers of fatwas.
@Sania: In India any person of any faith can marry anyone. You just have to register yourself a month in advance in order that you may be given time to think it over again. Then a month later sign the register in front of the registrar and witnesses. What do you mean by muslims cannot marry. Saif is very much married and so are many muslims to Hindus. Pray how are you going to stop the marriage? Hope that makes sense!
@Raj Kafir: Muslims are allowed to marry people of the book (Christians and Jews) But not Pagans. I hope you got it.
@gp65: In any case even people who are not married to people within their own castes are not as intolerant as you seem to indicate. will you elaborate this sentence?FYI i m unmarried.
@gp65: Not sure where you came up with 5000 intercaste marriages in India – pls. provide reference This is a secret data .Even i m not able to find the link.This data was provided when my lawyer uncle tried to get information about how many hindu girl actually married a muslim.RTI refused to provide information .But they provided a collective information about total intercaste marriage that did happen last year. It was something more than 5000.In north india (which is most populace) people dont even go for intercaste marriage leave interfaith marriage.Interfaith marriage means communal riot.Its almost all unimaginable. As far as interfaith marriage is concerned,this is never applaudable and should not be encouraged.Neither you should.Every body should have respect for the religion which he has inherited from his forefathers.what kind of ex kareena is setting for the rest of the girl.should every girl start marrying a muslim.She is young then she chose to marry a divorcee.Its really a very serious issue in south india where i m seeing many girl married muslim .Now even govt is very conscious about it. i support intercaste marriage whole heatedly.I dont like this caste barrier.
Here in india no-one cares about Wedding or Nikkah, God Forbid couples start doing 'stuff' which they should do after formal marriage and nikkah.
@Nitish: I am not imposing my views on anyone - in fact I said you can keep your views, though I believe they are arcane Not sure where you came up with 5000 intercaste marriages in India - pls. provide reference. In any case even people who are not married to people within their own castes are not as intolerant as you seem to indicate.
@Nitish: It seems that the Taliban ideology of bigotry is also affecting a small section of the Indian population. I must support gp65 and inform you that your kind of thinking is in the minority. Indians have only let Religion into their lives as a guiding principle and not the be all and end all of existence. India is a shining example of coexistence between religions, races and ethnicities for centuries, not likely to change because one citizen feels otherwise. Indians will always repel and reject a Taliban like mindset from people of any religion, without bias or prejudice. This is reflected by its standing in the comity of nations.
Nikah is considered marriage in islam. Its the rule in islam for any muslim couple to be married. It has got nothing to do with taliban or anything like that. What the maulana said is correct in the rules of islam. If saif wants to be married in this way, then it is his personal choice not to follow islam. Therefore this marriage in islam views are considered not valid. Only valid in the eyes of law but not religion. Since saif mentioned that he is a muslim, this issue came out.. Whether he is a muslim or not, only God knows.
Nikah............who cares
@lankan: In India it is not compulsary to mention the religion if you dont want to mention it. So it does not make any difference as far as the children are concerned. But still I would say why we should break our head on their private life????
@Haroon: Saif is a Hindu Muslim so he can follow both religions. In India this is a newly formed religion like Hindu Christian. Nobody bothers as long as they are man and woman
@goose: WHo cares whether it is Akbar or Jahangir who married Jodha Bai? Why should we break our head on that?
@Nitish: "The fact is we hindus r thoroughly disappointed by kareen’s act.God forbid ,but we will never expect our girls to be like her.nevertheless we dont care whether she converts or not.But she is no more hindu.We r here to discriminate her if she keeps following hinduism. "
You are welcome to your very archaic views. Please do not represent yourself as representing all Hindus. This is not the first Hindu girl marrying a non-Hindu and it won't be the last one. Unsure what you think you can do if she continues to practice Hinduism. It is really between her and God - you are not in the picture.
@Haroon:
So what happens to Saif- here and beyond?
@Mirza: Please set a good example for all the young moderen youth with secular thinking So you think she is setting an example for young generation.The fact is we hindus r thoroughly disappointed by kareen's act.God forbid ,but we will never expect our girls to be like her.nevertheless we dont care whether she converts or not.But she is no more hindu.We r here to discriminate her if she keeps following hinduism.
The intellect of a Maulana is inversely proportional to the length of his beard.
@Python: Maulana gave his opinion, which frankly speaking nobody cares for, myself included and holds no bearing on anyone's decision to marry. He didn't bring anything about Indian government into it, don't understand why it was brought up at all. People expect religious clerics to keep religion and state separate when the average human in that region can barely do it. Religion Hindu Muslim enters EVERY conversation you guys have. Makes no sense. Points to why the region lags behind when people can't get over this need to tout religion at every given opportunity. Religion is best kept personal, and I'm saying that as a Muslim. Ciao.
Clerics like him are irrelevant and jahil - they open their mouth and always try to divide people - they are neither close to God or humanity. Our countries would be much more peaceful if these type of clerics and other religious leaders would simply vanish.
@random: "Why dont you let the maulana (especially in this case where he has shared the correct approach according to the Islam) live"
No-one had asked for Maulana's direction - so it is unclear how this became his job. Incidentally when he describes a marriage that is CLEARLY valid legally in India as a joke - he is speaking against the Indian constitution. But freedom of speech allows him to get away with that as long as he does not try to force his archaic views on the couple. As far as letting him live - well I am not aware of anyone having issued a fatwa against this mullah - al that people are doing is to criticize him for poking his nose where it is not needed.
@khan: "well he is right, we dont need to make jokes..he is simply saying that its a marriage not a nikah, a term that is specific for marriage between two Muslim"
No. HE said that the marriage is a joke. PEr Indian law it is not a joke Indian marriage act does allow people of different faith to get married.
@Raj Kafir: "Sharmila Tagore did not embrace Islam while marrying Nawab Mansur Ali Khan Pataudi." She did embrace Islam! @Syed: " Jo Khuda ko bhula day dunya main uss nay kuch nahi paaya aakhrat main" Neither of them have declared that they are discarding "Khuda". It is just that each believes in his/her own concept of "Khuda", not a coerced version of the other's.
Have a great and happy life both of you. Don't worry about the mode of wedding as long as both of you are in love. Love is above and beyond all the walls and hurdles. Please set a good example for all the young moderen youth with secular thinking.
Saif should convert to Hiduism. He will be most Welcome & get rid of Mullah interference in his life. In India each mature person can live their life at their own will.
@BlackJack: Islam has no compulsion...its just to avoid confusion in bringing up the children that islam for both is required....yes if a husband is Muslim and wife is Hindu then what you will get...a child who is neither muslim nor hindu....that is why it is preferred to get the couple in same religion....otherwise the cleric's view point is right....come what may...it is not Islamic marriage........let them enjoy...has the cleric said anything bad.....???? no......just described the nature and status of their act............simple.............
Its official now.....
Marriage will held as per Hindu customs and saif will take 7 fare with kareena tonight.
So, inofficially saif has converted to Hinduism.
Good, nikah or call it what you like. The concerned don't give a hoot about it and I think they are just fine.
Jab miyaa biwi raazi, to kya karega kazi!
The bride's mum is a Catholic, and her dad a Hindu - the groom's mum is a Hindu, dad was a Muslim. Groom & bride are of different faiths, and as adults have decided to join in matrimony. What business is this of anyone else? Whether the bride and/or groom decide to chnage their religion, is also their own business - no one elses!
And such marriages happen among ordinary Indian citizens - not just the celebs. I personally know friends, where the couple are of different faiths - in fact many of them have two wedding ceremonies, one for each faith, so double the fun! And most of the priests / pandits / maulvi's add an extra explanation of the ceremonies so guests from other faiths can understand what's happening.
This guy probably didn't get invited to the fun and hence is sour at the couple.
.maulana pl made her to convert.There should be some lesson for such girls.
Mr Maulana should know that India is a secular country governed by a law which provides fundamental rights to its citizens and it is not a theocratic state where mullahs will decided what is right and wrong!
If he wants theocracy he should move to Afghanistan or Pakistan.
@Syed: This is the problems with Muslims, passing judgement on everyone! how do you know that they dont pray in their own way? and even if they dont what is it to you? Religion is a personal matter. Are you sure you are going straight to heaven?
"Cleric says Saif, Kareena marriage cannot be termed as nikkah"
They do not claim it to be nikkah. They are getting married by civil marriage under the Indian marriage act which covers hundreds of thousands of Indian couples of different faith. Even Amrita Singh - Saif's earlier wife had not converted.
Interesting that no such statements were made about Shah Rukh and Amir who also have Hindu wives who never converted.
As far as people saying that KAreena would now try to bring Hindu influence in the household, people should realize his mother was a Hindu from the great Tagore family.
Well, if you declare yourself a Muslim, like Saif does, then you have no choice but to atleast follow the bare minimums of religion. In Islam marriage between Muslim and Hindu is NOT allowed and this has nothing to do with Taliban'isation or anything. The cleric just mentioned a fact. I think ET readers are mostly obsessed with anti religious views and any fact which is related by any means to Islam is a Taliban ization to them.
Who gives it a damn, Mr. Maulana Hafeez; mind your own marriage or nikah!
@BruteForce
P.S. I love Saif in the new liquor commercial. Muslims even have freedom to disobey a Religious diktat in India.
If one claims to be a member of a religious faith, one needs to follow its rules and practice it as ordained. Its like joining a club and following its rules and regulations, otherwise your membership is revoked. Disobeying the diktats of a religion is not freedom, its more akin to rebellion. By the way, we all "indulge" in the "freedom" of disobeying the religious edicts, even in Pakistan, day in and day out, with complete immunity, thanks to the busy Satan. This is not something exclusive to those living in India !
Well thats a valid point that if they were already living together, than where was the cleric than with his comments. This marriage is just a formality and if it is allowed as per the Indian laws than who has given the cleric authority to say such things.
There is a lot of difference between a Muslim who is just a Muslim by name and a practicing Muslim which majority of the people nowadays do not realize or differentiate.
The Maulana did his job, to direct them about the correct way according to islam. Now we can go around bashing the maulana about why does not let others live... Well here is a question back...
Why dont you let the maulana (especially in this case where he has shared the correct approach according to the Islam) live
By this cleric's logic, the marriage of Saif's parents is void as Sharmila Tagore did not embrace Islam while marrying Nawab Mansur Ali Khan Pataudi.
You don't need to convert to Islam, there's no Shariah in India, one can follow one's own religion without any force if they're married to another person in India. Gauri Khan still follows Hinduism so as Kiran Rao, Nobody cares what Mullahs say in India even educated Muslims don't
i think we have to be free from all these type of old things - should be free from all such restrictions enjoy & live free.
@Salman: What do you think the Taliban are doing -- poking their noses in other peoples lives and wanting to decide what they should or should not do, even when nobody has asked their advice. In which country do you live because you seem to be very innocent ?
If Kareena had married that Maullana then I assume it would have been kosher...
@Observer
And Akbar was not a muslim. In fact he might be called Wajb-Ul-Qatl if he lived today for starting his own religion called Din-e-Lahi.
Who cares? God bless the couple.
The clerics should stop being so intrusive. Islam is not a straitjacket. It gives the religion a bad name and promotes Islamophobia around the world.
Twenty comments on this story but just one cooment about some schools in Lahore not letting children have polio drops. Says a lot about our priorities..doesn"t it?
Ignore the mullahs and move on.
I will be happy if she got converted to islam.My best wishes to kareena kahan,ayesha khan,faiza khan,hamma khan ...whatever name she wants she can opt.
@saaz: hahahahahahahahahahahas ......... best comment on this
Maulana is talking sonesense. Interfaith marriages were very common in Indian high society. Now trend has crept to middle and educated classes. Thousands of muslim girls are getting married with hindu boys and muslim boys are doing the same. In Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan, Muslim males marry Jewish and Christian girls and nobody gets upset. They would marry hindu girls too, but they are not available in those countries.. When a couple loves each other, no one and nothing can stand between them.
Why should only women convert ? Why not men ? Oh..keeping their Moghal legacy alive....Sad thing is that people of this mentality live in India and dragging a community down day by day .
This couple obviously don't care what the cleric says... neither is religiously minded!
Well done to the couple i wish them a long and happy married life!
Stupidity has no boundaries….not even love….better to keep love aside….
@Hamid: a correction, it was Jehangir's (or Prince Salim) father Akbar who married Joidha Bai - Jodha was Jehangir's mother
Ha Ha Ha... Clerics are funnier than politicians nowadays. If the clerics are not recognising the marriage, is it going to stop them from having kids.. ha ha ha...
The Khans and other muslims working in bollywood don't seem to know the abc of their religion. Jo Khuda ko bhula day dunya main uss nay kuch nahi paaya aakhrat main
A question to maulana -- should Saif become Hindu, then it won't be joke, right?
@Hamid -Jehangir was Jodha Bai's son :) . It was Akbar who married Jodha Bai.
Like it or not they are Husband and wife, so clerics should mind their own business.
Wedding is happening in true Indian style. They are gonna exchange vows as Kareena's mother is a Catholic. Yet, Kareena is a Hindu, Saif a Muslim.
P.S. I love Saif in the new liquor commercial. Muslims even have freedom to disobey a Religious diktat in India.
So....no invitations for him then?
He will not say anything against Arab Sheikhs who buy girls in the name of nikkah from India and leave them after few months........I know lot of those cases in Hyderabad(deccan).......the clerics are also involved and get money from Sheikhs........
@Hamid:
Mulan “what about Jahangir Who married Jodha Bhai”
To the best of my knowledge, it was Akbar who married Jodha Bai. Jehangir was the 'Son' of Jodhabai.
But then, some people have a history that is all their own.
I am NO fan of Molvi's of Pak or India, by as per Islam , he is right. And no one can argue over this point.
@Feroz:
and how this can be termed as Taliban mentality ?
Marriage is a formality, they are already living like a husband and wife. Its just another day in their lives and just another night, nothing new.
What is a religion to do with a marriage? They are matured and can live the way they like. Who are these dumb heads to call it a joke?
Siddique Sahib, There are many jokes around you happening in INDIA then
These people are a plain nuisance - I suppose if she converted to get this termed as a 'nikkah' everyone would celebrate that she had suddenly realized that Islam is the true faith? And then you hear statements about no compulsion.
love has no boundaries....not even religion....better to keep religion aside....
Very True Indeed..!
Hmmmm, so what? when did they say it was nikah?
Simple Mulana, society in India is no more religious but is based on economic relations. Its more trade then love. Mulan "what about Jahangir Who married Jodha Bhai"
True
Looks like the Taliban philosophy is now main stream with people wanting to poke their nose into other peoples affairs. I doubt anyone in India will care a damn what anyone thinks of them. It will be futile to explain to this Mullah that the concept of LOVE preceded every Religion. Fortunately Saif and Kareena understand their God better than those who claim to speak on his behalf. Wishing the couple a very long and happy wedded life !
They are getting getting married under the Indian law. I suppose they are not interested in the opinion of clerics.
very true... very true.. Cleric zindabad...
yeah, as if people care what he says!
One more temple and Bhagvad gita inside muslim home. Many did that before, now its kareena's turn.
Thats why muslims dont feel happy in india when muslim boys marry hindu girls because they rarely convert, instead they make their husbands hinduised muslims.
Congrats to both of them.
"she should first embrace Islam." HA! I think more importantly he should embrace Islam!