War in Afghanistan is jihad, says Imran
Terming the ongoing war in Afghanistan a ‘jihad’, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan parried a question on Wednesday whether the war in Pakistan’s tribal belt could be labelled as terrorism. He was addressing a press conference in Peshawar after paying a visit to inquire after the health of Malala Yousafzai.
The PTI chief condemned the attack on Malala, saying attacking children was against the teachings of Islam and Pashtun traditions, and offered every possible help to Malala’s family.
Imran added that there was a need to investigate the motivations of various Taliban factions operating in the country, adding that the decision to carry out a military operation in Waziristan in 2004 and the Lal Masjid episode were ‘the main reasons’ behind the violence across the country.
“In the guise of the Taliban, there are several criminal gangs who didn’t even spare PTI workers by demanding extortion money.”
The PTI chief said that “drone attacks are carried out with the consent of the government, and in reaction, Taliban attack civilians.”
Citing an ex-employee of the US Central Intelligence Agency, he said that unless the Pakistani government withdraws its support as a coalition partner on the ‘war on terror’ it will be unable to overcome the insurgency in the country.
“A military operation can be a small part of a larger solution but a conflict cannot be resolved through military operations alone,” the PTI chief said.
Published in The Express Tribune, October 11th, 2012.
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American presidents were also saying this JIAHD and shouting slogans in Peshawar 'ALLAH HU AKBAR' when afghans were fighting against soviets, so this is american point of view, now why it become so unpopular in the eyes of USA worshiping liberal extremists. only because now its american agenda
I totally agree with Ali's comments. This Malala drama has been conjured so that hatred and resentment towards tribal areas continue and phantom Taliban is once again accused. So drone attacks can resume on pretext of wiping out Taliban when actually innocent civilians are killed. Why all people cannot see the propaganda in this. This so called Taliban are actually foreign sponsored mercenaries and killers. Do not confuse them with the real mujahideen who are fighting the US forces in Afghanistan. This TTP is a scapegoat for USA and its allies to carry out more killings and drone attacks on Pakistan and tribal areas. People cannot see through the facade. By the way Imran Khan is right when he said that Taliban are criminal gangs. He has my vote and is the only man for a better Pakistan.
@ Ali: REALLY! sorry state of affairs
@Ahmad Bilal: wow what a great word you have used "Foreign Invaders" didnt you see the taliban terrorists when they were runing for their life after the fall of kabul as they caught by peoples and searched most of them were having the Pakistani National Identity Card" and i would say its always better to live under foreign invaders who are not snatching ur human right rather the local ruthless who are suppressing their countrymen
@Abu Hamza:
They did indeed illegally occupy property, attack and burn businesses and their merchandise, government buildings and vehicles, in their protest against mosque demolitions alleged to be illegally constructed on disputed land. Claiming otherwise would be dishonest and lying, and that sick low class attack against the factual commentator on your prostitution fetish unwarranted. They had no mandate to kidnap the suspected Chinese prostitutes illegally in defiance of Pakistan law, regardless of the corruption from the elite. Their twisted Deoband ideological brand supported the Taliban, amassing weapons within a masjid with connections with known terrorists and terrorist groups like J-e-M and Al Qaeda, and stooped so low as to use their students as militants and calling for suicide bombings....don't think spreading anarchy and fasad violently is halal, Shariah or Islam...unless that is your kind of extremist ideological Kharijite brand.
@ Big saf
And where has Imran Khan justified school attacks, beheadings or suicide bombings? He has time and again said that people who do such things are not even HUMAN far from them being Muslim. He calls them Barbarians every now and then.
Stating the reasons and causes behind terrorism is NOT justifying terrorism. You are behaving the same way as some people in west did when they called the peace-workers, anti-war activists and noble peace prize winners and even many war and terrorism analysts as the one's justifying terrorism!!! Talk about all the articles by learned war-analysts where they have listed the ROOT CAUSES of terrorism! Well, are they too justifying terrorism?? Just as Noble Peace Prize Winner Betty Williams said on BBC
Also you have a very superficial knowledge abt the Afghan Taliban, they are an entirely different entity than the TTP.
Imran Khan has been condemning the terrorists every now and then, and he did this in this very press conference as well, and he also said "how can any human not condemn this". Also see this video, where he condemns beheadings, school burnings, ahmadi killings etc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Q0iLVOY2s )
@ big saf
It is obvious that the ET is lying since what you are quoting isn’t what the ET said! Saying that “the Afghan war” is a jihad is WHOLE LOT different than saying that “there are some people in Afghanistan who are fighting for their freedom and doing Jihad.” Pls see the video I posted for you, there IK clarifies that he considers some people in Afghanistan are actually fighting a Jihad BUT they are mixed with the CRIMINALS and that it “it is all a MIXTURE now” So why do you want to ignore one thing and stress on some other thing?
If he really had said “afghan war is jihad” that would be akin to saying that all suicide bombings, all the attacks were jihad. That would be a really bad statement to make. But he said people in Afghanistan who are fighting for freedom are fighting a jihad-which is fine and true. He also said that they were NOW intermixed with the criminals (as i mentioned in the zemtv videohttp://www.zemtv.com/2012/10/10/imran-khan-press-conference-10th-october-2012-express-news/ )
@Ashraf P: since when did you turn into a hypocrite who hates Jihad and the teachings of Islam.. you have a muslim name... what happened to you?
@ALI:
[Why Talban not killed her in last three years as she was there, Why they select to kill this time???} Do you consider Ehsanullah Ehsan a CIA agent having owned the attack on Malalah and threatened a repeat attack if she survives. Have you heard of any Taliban leader / spokesman etc condemning the attack and distancing themselves. Please open your eyes dear brother.
@Caramelized_Onion: (If Turkey could stay neutral during two Iraq Wars and also attacks on Libya and Serbia, why couldn’t we stay neutral in the Afghan war?}
Simple answer: Turkey never allowed its land to be used for cross border terrorism. If you can ensure it, no one will ask you to be a partner in war on terror. Nobody asked for Pak Army contingents to fight alongside ISAF/NATAO/USA forces in Afghanistan.
Once again ET twisted his statement & additionally didn't describe it in the news body' ET is biased!
Full speed ahead Imran, we are with ou all the way!
Whatever IK says, he's right...............
@unmet46:
This is what was said from the first 24 seconds of the video that qzj00 provided, translated from Urdu to English.
http://tribune.com.pk/multimedia/videos/450148/
"what you said about in Afghanistan, look, Jihad is a very simple thing, when I fight for my freedom, that is Jihad. This is the Quran's verses - instructions. Whoever is fighting for their freedom is Jihad. So those fighting in Afghanistan against foreign occupation, this is Jihad."
He basically sympathized, condoned or justified the Taliban, overlooking their criminal acts of terrorism or attacks on civilians and giving credence to their claim of 'fighting an occupation' and 'Jihad'.
@riz: GOOD RIDDENS
This is a Lie Imran Khan never said that war of Afghanistan is a jihad. Here's the video:http://www.zemtv.com/2012/10/10/imran-khan-press-conference-10th-october-2012-express-news/
He said two things which had to with the word "jihad":
"It was "perceived" that any one fighting against the US was doing Jihad and it was "perceived" that fighting against the one's supporting the US was Jihad" Secondly he said:
"It is the tradition of the tribal leaders that they don't openly come against any one doing Jihad while IN REALITY it is all mixed, there are criminals (operating in the name of jihad), and there are certain people fighting in Afghanistan who are actually fighting Jihad but it is all mixed now" (i.e. the militants are mixed with the people who were actually fighting against US occupation in Afghanistan)
Also he nowhere used the word "even" when talking about PTI workers being asked extortion money. He simply said that diff. militants gps. are fighting for various reasons, our workers were threatened and asked for money. He din't imply that this was something unusual that could not have happened to PTI workers.
@qzj00 Firstly Youtube is not legally accessible in Pakistan, so this video you are posting doesn't play. Secondly I searched the whole press conference and heard it, no where did he say "Afghan war is jihad" thats such a BIG LIE on the part of ET!
He said two things. Firstly:
Secondly he said: "
Also he did not say : "EVEN" PTI workers were not spared by the taliban. He did not even use this word EVEN. He actually said that militants were fighting due to different motives...and that some of them were fighting for money and that PTI workers were threatened and were asked money...Its not that he said it was something unusual that could not have happened to PTI workers.
(Here's the video: http://www.zemtv.com/2012/10/10/imran-khan-press-conference-10th-october-2012-express-news/ Shame on ET.
I will never come back to this website again.. quoting a person wrong is a crime. it can change the whole concept of the message he wanted to convey. that's exactly what ET has done today. Unlike from my facebook page n twitter. I would stick to www.Pakistantoday.com. Good bye!
Indeed ... IK is inexperienced on foreign policy and pretty much all other issues and I wouldn't want him to do a test run on us. IK lost another supporter.
USaid is funding Express Tribune for such biased behavior. IK didn't say that war in Afghanistan is Jihad. He said the Taliban thinks that this is Jihad. Total misinterpretation just to spoil IK popularity. This media is our greatest enemy and part of this status quo !!
Imran khan is also strongly and truly religious personality . As well as last hope of Pakistan.
Hassan Ali... please review IK's video interview again... what he said was that Afghanistani people who are fighting against the right of their independence against US are fighting a "Jihad".. please stop twisting the truth according to your own perception and write what he has actually said...
@Smart:"Shame on you IK" Same for you Mr. Smart because your mentality can never differentiate between Jihad and terrorism and you always mix up Jihad with terrorism.Whereas Jihad is never the terrorism because Jihad's conditions of obligatory are different from the terrorism and in Afghanistan there is/has been Jihad not terrorism because Jihad is obligatory when any non-muslim tries to harm and kill the innocent muslims and US' and NATO's forces are killing and harming the mostly innocent and sinless people which they never have to do and leave Afghanistan on top priority basis as soon as possible sans wasting any more time and $$$$$$$$ on the useless war in hilly and barren country "Afghanistan".......
@riz: Which world who is against Iraqies, Afghani, kashmiri, Phelestini etc freedom fighters and with US, India, Israel. Imran always great and only chance to save Pakistan. Many more suporter added. Sohail
@Zalmai: Your advice to Imran to revert back to cricket might become a reality after the next general elections in Pakistan. He was one of the topmost and popular cricketer of his era and can easily help Pakistan to reach the top but politics is not his cup of tea which he would surely realise after the coming elections.
@Noman: May be so. However, even if we take him to be technically correct, does Mr. Khan realize the implications of his words on the International stage? Sure, you will say that speaking 'the truth' is paramount. To that I will say that there is a very thin line between valour and discretion! Just think about it, by issuing such statements, do we cause problems for the vast majority of Muslims all over the world, or do we gain something for them? Allah has surely made it incumbent on us to use our brains before opening our mouth!
Imran Khan did a press conference and implied that the terrorists are justified in fighting our state, our forces and us. So, the veiled jihadist removes the veil finally. Imran Khan gives this obnoxious ‘Fatwa’ and declares the war of terror, a jihad, in “tribal belt” by combined dark forces of Al-Qaeda, Talibans and various gangs of the warlords and drug mafias. This is against us and our Pakistan and we must refuse and reject this ‘Fatwa’ from this chronic jihadist on behalf of the forces of evil the ‘brave warriors’ the Talibans, the same barbarians who go around shooting our innocent daughters and sons, like the attackers of Malala. What is even more detestable is the timing this mad man selects and the occasion. He attempts to incite the innocent masses to take arm in the name of jihad in the guise of sympathy for the victim. What a trickery! The man is asking the victims of terrorism to support their brutalizers the attackers, the very murderers. Thank you, Mr Imran Khan, thanks for this invitation to “Jihad”—— but no thank you!—–Khan Sahib go and fight your jihad but not with our blood.
Imran Khan should stick to cricket and get a job as a color commentator on ESPN and pontificate about unscrupulous Pakistani cricketers. As a former elite athlete the role of a cricket pundit would suit him better than this new pseudo jihadi/fundamentalist role he has assumed. It is sad watching him unravel.The idiom (sau chuhe kha ke billi haj ko chali) is very appropriate for this confused man.
I hope he sees the light and reinvents himself if he wants to survive as a politician. He should take cues from the seemingly reformed Sharif brothers and Altaf Hussain.
@Super Star
Totally agree with your comment. Afghans have suffered enough at the hands of the Taliban/proxies. Double standards and myopic foreign policies are coming back to haunt Pakistan but they are still defiant and tread along the same destructive path.
@ True Muslim Paki
Actually I am mostly right. A state is nothing more than an organization that is the governing authority of a political unit. I should have said the middle ages consensus on this was that the declaration can only be made by the Head of State.
Muslims are not interested in anarchy.
There is a saying that "repeatedly say sweet sweet and you will feel sweetness in your mouth". Mr. Imran Khan is the dream of reaching to the throne in Pakistan, alienate himself from the truth and this will alienate him from the masses. So, his dream will remain as a dream only!
Oh please people, what is YOUR solution to the taliban problem? IK is a diplomat, he is trying to RESOLVE things with the taliban so that they can stop killing innocent people. what will he achieve by condemning them? has anybody been really able to stop the taliban by speaking against them or using force against them?
Since 9/11 Why every brutal act is known as Terrorism originating from Taliban? Attacks on Police Stations/Srilankan Team/Marriott and Why TTP is always ready to take the responsibility of Terrorism in no time? Is that So no body will ask the authorities responsible for investigation, litigation and punishment. because its Taliban, so case closed
Mr. Imran Khan double talk will not work. Taliban are barbarians and that is it. Don't talk about good and bad Taliban. Remember what Mush said about you '' Taliban without a beard ''. It is time for our army to move in all those areas and take action against these barbarians. Enough is enough. If you want a jehad then do against those who are very much in our own society.
Oh my God! I can't believe how immature these commentators are, whining and declaring that they're not PTI members anymore! For Gods sake, do you really believe that you know more than Imran khan? He's the one with first hand information and who is constantly dealing with these situations everyday! Because its his job! What are you? A banker? An engineer? A businessman? Your knowledge is confined to newspapers and the media, which are controlled by the government!
I really wonder how some Pakistanis like Imran and co , support the Taliban jihad in Afghanistan. Supporting the Jihad in Afghanistan would mean the harsh Taliban rule being forced on Afghans which includes banning Girls from going to work , getting an education , public executions and many more sharia based laws. Would the same Pakistanis like the same laws to be applied on themselves in Pakistan? Why then there is such an outcry on the attack on Malalai in Swat? She was actually struggling to get an opportunity to educate herself and other girls in Swat. She stood for womens rights and freedom. These are the very things which Taliban oppose in Afghan and Pak. When you support the Taliban ideology in Afghanistan why are you then opposing the same ideology being implemented in your own country and crying hoarse when someone attacks a girl who is trying to oppose this talibanization ?
The world sees this hypocrisy.
Sad to see a man, whom I and many of us in India idolized in our teens not just as a cricketer but as an honest and able leader of men stoop to this level of hypocrisy. IK, I hope this is not you.
@tilsim. You are wrong. Jihad is not declared by state in Islam. Islam doesn't recognize states.
And you didn’t quote him on the main line??? Where did he say the Afghan war a Jihad…?
Jehaad against fesaad which is rooted in you're Pakistani government is jehaad, don't sacrifice my beloved country for you're own good if u need to jehaad against Americans don't accept their billions of dollars, stop begging them! Start jehaad in you're own selves, don't try to find a short cut to paradise in Afghanistan, we as pashtuns and Afghans have paid enough, tnx Imran for being as same as the other political figures.
that's the reason why i like Imran khan .
This jihad is going to engulf you and your country , mr khan .
Don't play politics on this issue and support army to eradicate such elements from the region for ever .
Mr Oppurtunist Khan true jihad is war against attackers of Malala YusufZai,you havent uttered a word against her culprits , why would you, we all know you were sitting in dharna against USA in Karachi and ran away when Talibans attacked PNS Mehran , you only want nice newspaper poses of yours, days are gone , you are not a cricketer any more.
What a joke of a person
I have lost my believe in politicians! Maulana Imran Khan declared Jihad in Afghanistan following the path of his masters Maulana Dieseli, Hamid Gul and Zaid Hamid. If its Jihad in Afghanistan then its definitely Jihad in FATA and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa as well. There is no good or bad Taliban! All of them are on their way to Jahanam Inshallah. Was shooting innocent Malala Jihad as well? I don't understand whom he support? I think Imran is acting to seal his failure, with this statement he tries to increase more confusion about his stance. He should take rest for weeks to revisit his thoughts and revitalized himself…… Yes he was/can be a good leader.
Taliban are Pak Army proxies, not Pashtun nationalists,Taliban, both in Pakistan and Afghanistan, are an attempt to wipe out entho-nationalism among the Pashtun and temper with the Pashtun cultural identity In fact Afghans, both Pashtun and non-Pashtun, accuse Pakistan and more specifically the Punjabis of nurturing the insurgents in Afghanistan. Many of the Pashtun in FATA also accuse Pakistan Army of backing the Taliban or not supporting local anti-Taliban forces. Just because the Pakistani media is not showing Pashtun anger does not mean it does not exist on the ground.
Imran khan is under the influence of jamaat islami and people like Hameed Gul who are the main reasons for this state of affairs in pakistan. Imran khan is intoxicated by Maudoodis ideology and just to let you know Imran brother in law is terrorist Jamiat Nazim. Imran khan is a mullah without beard. He has gone insane and cannot solve problems of pakistan which are extremism, intolerance and division. PTI is a good looking Jamaat Islami?.
Imran sahib, what you tryin to say taliban are true saviour of afghanistan and fighting the invaders but khan sahib didn't these monsters ruled our country for 5 years, what they did in these 5 years..nothing
This is the result when a man has no knowledge of his own religion but is dependent on people telling him what is his religious teachings should be. He is an educated man, and all the books are available to him in English translation from good sources, he himself should study and then give 'fatwas'.
In Islam jihad is declared by a state. Half the muslim Afghans, including the current government are fighting the oppression and deviancy of the Taliban who have allied with terrorists and adopted their battle methods. Muslims are allowed to work with non-muslims in their wars. Those opposing the Taliban are also Muslims. Its not as simple as Imran khan makes it out that supporting one side is Jihad. Shame that he confuses Pakistanis and goes against Pakistan's army.
Howzaat!!!!!!! and you are out. Imran Khan, a political novice proves that he is a lackey devoid of convictions and ideas that great leaders are supposed to have. By pandering to the religious right and power brokers he demonstrated his inability to lead as true statesmen are supposed to, but he is no statesman.
“In the guise of the Taliban, there are several criminal gangs who didn’t even spare PTI workers by demanding extortion money.”
So what does this mean? Does it mean that: PTI is in cahoots with the Taliban? Ehsanullah Ehsan was just kidding when he said that TTP will attack PTI members and IK in Waziristan? Ehsanullah Ehsan does not really represent TTP? TTP claimed responsibility for attack on young Malala so TTP are not Taliban? Taliban don't really kill innocent people and destroy schools because they have nothing against them because Taliban believe that Muslims should get both religious as well as secular education? Taliban did not really control Kabul and Afghanistan in general between 1995 and 2001 because the people who were ruling that nation at that time were forcing men to grow beards, forcing women to wear burkas and killing and lashing them publicly for "offenses" ranging from going to the market without a male mahram, learning to read and write, and getting accused for fornication or adultery. Taliban are generally peace loving people whereas the criminal gangs commit the crimes and then blame it on Taliban? Taliban are so stupid that they happily take the responsibility of doing inhumane things that the criminals do?
Imran Khan, I think your desire to win elections has surpassed your desire to help Pakistan. You have just joined the ranks of existing political leaders. Bashing US was right, but taking Taliban's side when the entire Pakistani population is condemning them was not only stupid it was equivalent to axing your own feet off. You didn't read the public temperature well, did you? Should have this one alone.
@MBB The above written article is the same what Mr. Khan said... and now you are losing one more PTI voter as I do not want Pakistan to be an other Afghanistan...
What exactly does a "fatwa" mean? Perhaps, some enlightened reader may be kind enough to explain this to me, because Its connotation has gone through a major evolutionary change with its relevance becoming questionable in modern times. Imran Khan is but an opportunist, like most Pakistani politicians, military and the mullah fraternity. But Imran is one level more dangerous than the others: he is pretentious and hypocritical, and is playing a dangerous game by rubbing shoulders with the Taliban in the hope of gaining power. It does not augur well for Pakistan and its people who will face enormous problems if he did come to power. However, other leaders, tried and tested, are equally bad. It's what we call a Hobson's choice -- one choice worse than the other. And don't forget the sources of all fatwas -- the mullahs, the defenders of the divine faith, who have stirred religious sentiments to incite marrauding mobs to carry out their deadly and destructive agenda. Pakistan's doom is assured..
Don't know what twisted ideological religion IK is following but it is clear in the Quran that bombing masjids, schools, banks, hotels, markets and killing innocent women and children, including throwing acid/poisoning/whipping or shooting dead school girls, is NOT Jihad or fighting for 'your freedom' but aggression and ZULM. Instead of peace they want absolute political power again through force to impose their tyrannical system again. They were ousted because they purposely continued to give sanctuary to Al Qaeda. Disgusted with the jahil/ignorant, munafiq/hypocrite and pro extremist/Kharijite supporters, which unfortunately constitutes a lot of elitist Pakistanis. Afghans, Pashtuns and non-Pashtuns, don't call the Taliban their 'brothers', but their 'murderers' as they have killed more Afghan civilians than NATO and their AFGHAN govt combined.
The same militants from Waziristan who are attacking us, were doing the same to the Afghans, and some of our tribals like the Turi tribe, earlier - but apparently they are your twisted idea of 'mujahids' even when it comes to killing a school girl in Swat. There is no justification or legitimate excuse and simply shameful, but expected from two faced extremist apologists, sympathizers and supporters. We had negotiated when Swat was taken over and allowed it. We had delayed for Ijaz-ul-Haq to negotiate with the Deoband militants of Lal Masjid. We have had militancy pre-2001, in bombings, target killings, religious and sectarian massacres, etc, so it is incredibly stupid to claim when the US will disappear it'll be heaven. Enough of this stupidity. The problem isn't operations, but the growing religious extremist and violent mindsets.
Maybe he should just come out like the Islamist JI's Munawar Hasan and declare Osama Bin Laden as his Sheikh as well, which probably half of his PTI base already do.
WAR IN AFGHANISTAN IS JIHAD, SAYS iMRAN KHAN
So, why isn't he there in Afhanistan fighting this great Jihad? Oh, I see, he only means Jihad should be faught only by the poor illeterate men.
IK as well as PTI has always catagorically denounced any form of terrorism. Can any one of you who's opposing IK's views on Afghanistan answer these questions: 1. How can you eliminate Taliban? How will you identify good Taliban from Bad Taliban, or you want to paint all Taliban with the same brush, which is exactly how the West paints all muslims. 2. Has any military operation in the past been able to eliminate militants successfully? 3. If India occupies Pakistan, resisting the Indian forces would be terrorism or Jihad? IK has time and again explained his stance on the Taliban. Pakistani Taliban were created 2 years after drone strikes started in Pakistan, which proves that they were not ideological - rather reactionary to the strikes. His stance has always been "no military solution" which has been proven throughout history. Does that make him Pro Taliban?
If the war in Afghanistan is jihad, isn't it obligatory for him and his followers to go to Afghanistan to fight it? Why're they still here?
Foreign elements attacked OUR daughter (Malala) by using people (so called Taliban group who takes money to do the killings) so that we support US drones to kill OUR people in FATA & Waziristan. And people of FATA in return be used to attack OUR forces and population. And this chain will go on and on until we all are screwed......
And this War on terror continues and the military industrial complex in USA continue to thrive and small percent of their earnings is used to bribe third world country (like pakistan) governments n military to fight on .... SHAME on those sold out souls...
And ONE THING how PERFECT IS THE TIMING of the attack when the whole world shifted their attention to the drones for the first time .... SEE THE BIG PICTURE .....
Credits: part of my comment is from some other comment
This interview is on YouTube & this is true. All insafians & patriotic citizens support Imran khan & PTI. Haters will hate, anyway. We are with you, Imran khan. & we support every word you said.
So, Mr Khan, how many drones had Malalai launched? How many bullets had she fired on the Lal Masjid? And just how many people had she killed in Waziristan in 2004 for the Taliban to shoot her. Stop confusing people and stop presenting these beasts as "victims" rising for revenge. You have shown your true colours - now spare us your Talibanised views!
Imran Khan by bowling a number of noballs(Supporting TTP in killing innocents and jihad) has dropped the World Cup(PM chair). A lot of rats will now be jumping off the sinking ship of PTI in the next few weeks.
@sabi: "Imran Khan, thank you that every passing day you prove your critcs right in their criticism.Too many no balls!!"
hahaha wonderful ! Your comment is funny in so many ways...
Ok. First it is an intervention in afghan Affairs and he is trying to be another devastating Zia for Pakistan. Moreover, What shall be the stance of people against a Pro-American Army and Pro-American Government ? I see no difference in the situation of Pakistan and Afghanistan as for as the hold of US in both the countries is concerned. Americans have bases in Pakistan as she has in Afghanistan. Americans are more influential in Pakistan in certain situations. The american have presence in both the countries. the Americans have done several land-operations in Pakistan [i.e - the killing of Osama] and many in other areas. If we take this beyond Pak- Afghan nexus and see it in the light of happenings going-on in Syria or happened in Libya - then i feel no difference in doing Jihad in fighting against US-Army or US-led Army & Governments of Pakistan and Afghanistan. However, I just smell another Zia-ul-haq in the person of Imran who would certainly provoke people and ignite the ongoing war. It is for sure that Pakistan can never live in Peace until or unless Afghanistan is in peace. Its either Jihad Terrorism on both sides.
Tribune good job of mis-quoting IK. We all know that this is totally out of context. Really?? Just sickens my heart to see media creating such sensational news.
Like ur commenting for afgahanistan war zone rather than commenting from drawing rooms @CallinArmy-Khi:
Taliban Khan has pronounced his fatwa in favor of Afghan Jihad. Finally the cat is out of the bag.
By the way you anti IK losers, if you listen to his video you would have heard that he said "anyone fighting for their freedom is doing jihad". So, what do you think they are doing in Afghanistan? If you are all muslims then tell me whether there is a definition of jihad that you know about and I don't.
Try to use your brain for a change.
@maestro:
agree..but disagree. president musharraf gave lal masjid several week, nearly a month, to put down their arms, negotiate, allow them safe passage to get out. for IK to stand and say that lal masjid operation caused this terror is so oblivious to the reality of what was happening and how things were shaping up is ridicilous. has IK ever condemned the fact that several of our brave SSG men were killed? he hasnt. he always blames musharraf for launching an operation after the rangers and police were fired at, an SSG man saving children was shot in the head. his policies and idealogy scares me.
IK has bowled the doosra when everyone was expecting an inswinger..
@riz: Is it only me that can not see anywhere in this article where Imran said war in Afghanistan is Jehad? Never in this article it is qouted that Imran said so, only headlines states it. Why can't u guys read simple english and fail to understand the motive of such article.
Its a shame to see newspapers misquote people for the political agenda that they are following.. Give the full context in which he said those words not just that one line.. shame on you tribune!!
Jihad is an obligation and integral part of Islam. Every muslim should take part in jihad and support jihad.
He's a hypocrite, and I'm happy that most of my Pakistani's fellows understand him and his hollow ideas... He's trying to become another Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto or Benazir Bhutto by saying revolutionary words, lacking the sense that baseless ideas can't bring revolution, it will only deceive few simple men and women for a limited time and its nonsense content won't be bought by people for long.
According to my Islam, I'm thought that whatever you like for yourself like it for your neighbour too, here Khan saheb likes the same Taliban for us who have attacked Malala. I want to tell my Pakistani fellows that there's a similar feeling of pain for Malala here that is in Pakistan. At least my friend's face book pages are filled with messages of condemnation for Taliban and prayers for Malala. So if we feel pain for your Malalas how can he be some inhumane to support the cause of her attackers here.
There's no use of re-inventing the wheel by negotiating with Taliban, you've done it so many times and we've done it many more times. The only way is to stand united against very sense of fundamentalism and extremism and condemn it everywhere and in every sense.
There's no good or bad extremism too, the only way for us would be to fight it to last man or they lay down their weapons.
Imran Khan, thank you that every passing day you prove your critcs right in their criticism.Too many no balls!!
Since we are stuck with this crop of pseudo intellectual politicians instead of statesmen, I suggest we exorcise the inner fanatics they harbor. God save Pakistan and Afghanistan from these nut jobs.
This is the future leader of Pakistan. The Taliban can now go home. Their man in the form of Imran khan is going to lead Pakistan into another form of glorious Afghanistan, his ancestors country. That's what the Taliban want and they will definitely get it through Imran khan.
and those who consider Imran Khan to be extremist, please continue voting for Zardari and bear the fruits of it as well.
Very true Imran Khan. I was a voter of PPP but now i'll vote for PTI.
What about the fight of Pakistani armed forces against the most inhuman Talibans? Would he also issue an statement calling it jihad, too?
Glad Imran is showing his true self. This gives credence to the old saying - "You can take Jihadi out of Jihad-land to England (and marry an English Lady too). But you cannot take Jihad out of the Jihadi."
He is out of his mind and needs psychiatric help.
Even after 17 years in politics, Imran Khan has proven that he is a novice. A total greenhorn ! Does he seriously think he can reason with the murdering Taliban? What possible reason could they have in trying to murder little Malala? Does IK think it is due to drones?
wow.. I salute all you so called pseudo-intellects, Go on and study what Jihad is? Imran Khan did explain it from the Quran reference. It is fighting against the illegal occupation of your land. In that context yes it is Jihad in Afghanistan. Very well said by Imran Khan, we are with you.
@Amazed:
Re Where did he say the Afghan war a Jihad?, I am not sure if you mean 'where in the article' or 'where in Pakistan'.
In either case, please re-read the first two sentences of the article and if your amazement still exists, please see the video at http://tribune.com.pk/multimedia/videos/450148/
@riz: Your announcement of not supporting PTI/IK is a huge blow to the party. And next IRI survey will reflect loss icurred by PTI.
@Tanveer: Please dont listen to this propaganda, it is my request to you.
The US should withdraw from Afghanistan and just let the Taliban gain control. There is no way to stop them anyway.
@riz: This is pathetic absolutely that u think that way..... Stressing on dialogue after we have exhausted military operation for years isnt being taliban apologist..... Even US is negotiating with the taliban, what will you call that..... Unfortunately, the way u think, its just that national security doesnt work that way
Duck omran guy
Imran, who was blowing away all other parties with his tsunami now finds himself badly caught in the same by supporting TTP barbarities. This self created tsunami would now blow him and his party away.
@riz: bro there is difference between talibans and tehrek e taliban( who attacks mosques).plzzzzzzzzzzzzz dont mix them
I wish i did not have respect for you otherwise i would have condemned your statement in the most ruthless and harshest manner ever :) If that is Jihad then we must be crazy to support a Jihad that kills our own people, children, soldiers and women. And i know all about the difference between "Afghan Jihadies and Pakistan Jihadies" bla bla bla but at the end of the day they all kill people in the most disgusting way ever. This so called jihad was declared by OBL, who himself was hiding like a crazy scared man in an army safe house.
Mr. Khan u have lost my trust, loyalty and vote :)
He is the first one to denounce the attack. Don't understand what all he has to do to make the liberal minded people of this country that he is not a Taliban lover. He has always condemned attacks on this country by them. He is the only one who talks sense in Pakistan. The whole western world is willing to talk to the Taliban for peace and when IK says that then liberal in this country say he loves the Taliban. Wish they could just give this guy a chance. Everyone else has failed many times and now i think for the sake of Pakistan we have no other choice but to give IK and PTI a chance.
What is wrong with this statement "War in Afghanistan is jihad, says Imran" He is right, because Afghan Taliban's are fighting for their land, They are the rulers before USA had attacked Afghanistan. They are fighting against the aggression. I am supporter of PTI bcz IK always supports the truth. If he says something which is in favor of Taliban then people called him Taliban Khan on the other hand some religious leaders called him a liberal. Where he would go ? and What is wrong with this statement ?
Those who are opposing it kindly tell us why are you opposing ?
Can all the "liberal scholars" who have commented above tell that after a foreign invader has attacked your country, what else option your are left with? We are abusing Afghan Talibaan because a drone hasn't struck our homes, B-52 planes haven't bombarded on our cities. If rebelling an unjustified foreign invasion isn't Jihad, what else is it?
This man is a terror supporter - though I am not Pakistani, (perhaps that's why I can view all this with lesser emotion than Pakistanis) I think the day he comes to power will be a sad one for Pakistan. How many times have we heard these lines from terrorist supporters '...they have been suppressed...'. 'they've been misled', 'we need to know why they do what they do', 'a war on terror will only create more terrorists'....so what should be done then Mr. Khan? Stop the war on terror and let the existing terrorists rum amok? Why doesn't Imran Khan share a five year plan for dealing with terror with his country if he thinks the present strategy is wrong?
I am unable to understand why Imran Khan is being criticized for his honest acts. I am not trying to be biased here but if you analyze it neutrally, you will realize that he has not spoken anything wrong. He is just identifying the root cause of all the menace. I have never felt that he has ever defending Pakistani Talibans for their barbaric acts they have been committing. I will ask a question to all those who are criticizing him, tell us a solution and identify the root cause. Condemnation is not enough. What is the root cause of all this menace in our country? If we diagnose the root cause then only we would take concrete steps to nullify these attacks and then only we would be able to protect our people from these sick barbarians. This is not a time to show any political differences instead we need to show the whole world that we are together in our stance against these barbaric acts.
@Mind "The Islamic resistence Force in afghanistan I.e Mujahedeens really abide with islamic principles of women rights"
You do realize that they beat women to death in stadiums when they were in power?
Hypocrites open up a quran, ask a scholar and find out the meaning of jihad, for all intensive purposes it is jihad.
I can prove it with evidence. IK said.. ""those who are fighting against foreign occupation in Afghanistan,, is JIHAD..""
Actually he has a point - it is very simple to call the taliban terrorists and sweep all the wrongdoings of the military establishment under the carpet - the only concern I have with Imran khan's stand is that he is not looking at exposing the military by refusing to term the taliban terrorrists.
Dear All Pakistani brothers,
This man mission is to distroy Pakistan and divide it in to 2 parts, those speeking Pashto and those who are speaking other languages, for this he received the advance payment as well as signed off the contract with foriegners, another his mission is to distroy atomic system of pakistan, his plan is to bring local Taliban to those areas and than foriegners have justifications to directly attack pakistan and after that divide it the way he was instructed. so please stop him if i were in Pakistan i would kill him but advising you to stop him before your distroyed.
it has been ages since i have seen an unbiased article in the tribune. you didnot quote Khan on the the actual headline of yours. and such things have to be understood fully before people start bashing Imran khan. and please open your eyes, the majority of people in pakistan believe war in Afghanistan is Jihad. The afghani taliban and the so called pakistani taliban are different
Why he is embarassment because he has courage to call Afghan war Jihad and American attack terrorism. Which world is against Taliban? Why world is no against America killing Muslims and people of all other religion for last sixty years in the name of American interest. Shame on you. Now America has spokesman like you to defend its crimes. Shame on you.@riz:
Shame on you IK
if instead of using the word Jihad, Imran Khan would ve said the Afghan people are right in fighting against foreign invaders, would that have been politically correct?
Thank God imran khan releaved his true loyalties to islamic terrorists . he should have condemned all types of taliban terrorists whether afghan or pakis (Recently, you would have heard about an incident in afghanistan where taliban beheaded 15 men, 2 women when they ransack a wedding hall, now indeed its an awesome jihad). Recently on malala attack; Except PPP, MQM, ANP, nobody has condemned tehreek e taliban. no one has the guts to name them in fear of backlash (as they are hand in gloves with their ideology). Imran khan even condemned the government for this barbaric act by taliban. Thank God he exposed himself early, otherwise many among us could have committed a crime of voting him in. my vote is for PPP in the coming pole. and i will vote them because atleast they have always supported our army's stance against these sub-humans. i will vote PPP despite the fact that they are corrupt.(infact all parties are somewhat corrupt). its better to live in a liberal failed state than a taliban run, mullah-political combo failed state.
@zeeshan sheikh: "...he is saying the same thing since 2004. and I am supporting him till the end."
Well then the end is near...
If a foreign agressor attacks your country without any reason and you fight against it.... what else will you call it?
Imran Khan is the man....................
Imran, the closet Taliban, has finally come out of the closet!
It is a shame for Imran Khan
Never did he say such a statement. what he said was that TRIBAL PEOPLE think War in Afghanistan is jihad. This is such a biased report. posturing the comments in wrong way
And I respected Imran Khan. Sob sob sob
@riz: You gonna realize this later, may be after a decade. Talbin ideology is in masses over Pakistan, we need to eradicate this ideology , not bunch of militants who are wrongly supposed to be guards of Islamic ideology.
Although I'm not Imran's supporter, I second his opinion. It's not all black and white as most of the commentators seems to suggest, from their cozy drawing rooms. There are grey areas, and we have to identify them.
where is the part where he says war in afghanistan is a jihad.. is this freakin journalism??
Well done Imran khan this is the spirit we need all Muslims.. for all US Israel and Hindu :)
Now my vote for you :)
What exactly did he say?
"he (IK) said that unless the Pakistani government withdraws its support as a coalition partner on the ‘war on terror’ it will be unable to overcome the insurgency in the country"
Absolutely. Excuse me while I withdraw antibiotic therapy and nursing support from a patient of mine, to help him overcome his deadly infection.
Misleading Headline
Hahaha show me the video where he said this tribune has very bad habit of misinterprating and quoting out of context i know what he said he also said this on cnn he said that talibanz considered that they r doing jihad thats why usa is not winning the war if usa leave afghanistan jihad will be over and its easy to control terrorism bcoz the real terrorists will be isolated and people who r fighthing bcoz of foerign occupation would stop fighting and terrorists will lose the local support but our so called liberalz or the better word for them is liberal fascits never miss any oppourtunity to criticize IK anyways i also believe that many people without any evil intention fought in afghanistan against usa have done jihad same goes 4 palestine the people who r fighting against israel r doing jihad let me ask u guys if someone comes in ur house and try to capture it and start killing ur family members if u fight with him do u become a terrorist? But whoever is killing innocet civillians is terrorist whether its usa or taliban
Dear minorities of Pakistan please don't vote PTI. Imran Khan is nothing but a political voice of taliban, he does nothing but intricating the scenario after every such attack, "ONCE US WITHDRAW FROM AFGHANISTAN THERE WILL BE NO VOILENCE IN PAKISTAN" Iam tired of reading and listening this statement. let me fix it "ONCE U.S WOULD WITHDRAW FROM AFGHANISTAN THERE WILL BE NO VOILENCE IN PAKISTAN BECAUSE THE VOLCANO OF TERROR WILL ERUPT THAT SOON WOULD ENGULF THE ENTIRE COUNTRY THE EMISSION OF TERROR WILL DESTROY EVERTHING AND NOBODY WOULD BE ALIVE TO FACE TO THE VOILENCE." dear imran khan please call back your sons to pakistan and recruit them in your favourite taliban militia
@riz: well we should not bother about what this world say about our internal matters .. world say alot of things against our country and our religion we should open our eyes and make clear some misunderstandings about few things..... if suppose in future any hostile country invade us and what wll u do..will u fine any political solution or u will pick a gun and save you country.. those afghans who never fought against PAK and fighting for their freedom are real freedom fighters i mean they have been living there for 100s of years they have families there......yes but TTP tahreeq talban pakistan are the main culprits murdering innocent pakistanis who are being sponsored by the hostile agencies like CIA, Afghan INTEL RAW etc.... but your concept is right as Imran khan should not mingle afghan talibans and TTP.......
@Arslan: good joke, i cant help laughing on it , hahahaha
Lot many supporters of PTI on this forum are trying to cover up Imran's statement that TTP is attacking civilians due to approval of drone attacks by the Federal govt, thus justifying the killings of the civilians by these barbarians. The PTI chief has certainly lost my respect for making this most shocking statement which only shows that he is totally insensitive to killing of innocent people at the hands these cowards and indirectly backing the Taleban to continue their atrocities.Whereas whole of Pakistan is stunned at this ghastly incident and condemning TTP who claimed responsibility for this attack but Imran has not condemned TTP so far but on the contrary justified their action on camera. I am not from Pakistan but people in this country should decide whether he is the right person to rule the country.
@Hassan:
And what about NATO and American Forces?? What are they doing there?
Ok most of the people are really confused here. You have to distinguish between TTP which is purely a terrorist organization bent upon destabilizing Pakistan by targetting civilians and institutions and Afghan Taliban ( Mullah Omar) who at best is an exremist NOT a terrorist. TTP is supported, funded & weaponized by our enemies. Afghan Taliban, if anybody likes it or not are doing jihad which historically they have done against all foreign invaders/occupiers.
look at these all fake ex PTI supporters that they are not going to support Imran Khan as he said something new. he is saying the same thing since 2004. and I am supporting him till the end.
The one quality the liberals have that they are liars and also hypocrites
Seems like a lot of your did'nt even bother to read the article.
Thank you ET. This is a good way to bring more traffic to your website and more bad name to Pakistan.
"attacking children was against the teachings of Islam and Pashtun traditions"
Sounds very noble, but if this is a direct quote does he then mean that a grown woman who holds such views and acts in a similar way is a suitable target for an attack?
I support Imran Khan he is absolutely right fighting against US in Afghanistan is definitely jihad. He is a true muslim. Liberals gonna hate anyways .
@Tanveer: Really bad decision!
Well said Imran khan.we are with you
Tsunami??????Ha ha
@MBB! You Rocks! Comment of the day! Great!
Oh dear God. He said that the people(Taliban) fighting there in Afghanistan think that it is a Jihad. Et does it again....
@How can he say its Jihad in Afghanistan.Many civilians and Afghan Security forces are killing in taliban attacks.
Many people also got killed in American Attacks!
I like his uniformity in thought. Taliban are not evil, doesn't matter TTP or Afghan Taliban. At least he is being honest to himself, even if that honesty is misguided.
Only imran has the solution to so called "war on terror"! Geo IMRAN!
@riz: This man doing a great job. Always follow a right path. Use your brain.
I am amazed at the lengths that this man will go to, to prove that he stands for nothing. This is not the time to score political points or to be an apologist. There should be no doubt where we stand on this. There is no middle ground any more. As a nation we need to decide whether to stand up and fight this menace to the end and the eradication of the scourge of Taliban, or to accept them as a fait accompli. Mr. Khan has very much emerged as a dyed in the wool Taliban, and has made clear what side of this divide he stands on. My sympathies to his supporters.
This man is a bully.. he is trying to make Afghanistan worse. He is following the same agenda that was and is followed by ISI and CIA. He is trying to push TTP towards Afghanistan and to kill the innocents there. There is no jehad in Afghanistan. There is just a game of ISI to make Afghanistan In-stable so, it never claims Durand Line. Pakistan has a threat to its security from US and India. It doesn't bear the existence of India there therefore, through a cheap leader they are promoting the Voice of Jehad in-order to make worse the already unstable Afghanistan.
HOW FOOL ARE PEOPLE READING THIS ARTICLE AND TURNING AWAY FROM PTI
YOU PEOPLE ARE CHEAP AND SENSE NOT EVEN UNDERSTANDING ROLE OF MEDIA
ITS MEDIA MEDIA MEDIA MEDIA AND ONCE MORE MEDIA
HE IS GIVING AN ANALYSIS AND I AGREE THAT MOST WOULD THINK ITS JIHAD SO YOU HAVE TO TACKLE IT DIFFERENTLY
IF YOU GUYS ARE CORRECT THEN WHY DOES HE NOT SAY LETS DO JIHAD IN PAKISTAN?????
AND WHY DID HE SAY "attacking children was against the teachings of Islam and Pashtun traditions"
If some dumb and senseless people want to chnage their opinion because of paid media, then go ahead, PTI does not need people like you who do not have there on sense
I was with imran but looking at his views and ideology I think he'll empower the Taliban. He was the last hope, now there are a bunch of thieves or a Taliban. I really hope Musharraf can gain back some ground he was truly awesome, but I think there are equal to no chances of him coming back into power...
he dosnt have the right take decision about Afghanistan its none of his business first of all he must start Jihad from his country which Muslman just by name
misleading news story title to attract attention with almost opposite story details. Looks like some money is in action while drafting this news story here! Twist everything against Imran with negetive is the goal!
When is he going to this Jihad?
100% agree with IK.
"“In the guise of the Taliban, there are several criminal gangs who didn’t even spare PTI workers by demanding extortion money.”"
An Insafian.
He is actually defending deobandi‘s ideology about called Jihad。。。。。。。
I will never vote for IK! It is because of sentiment like this I miss General Musharraf even more. I wish him well in life and i pray somehow he comes back to power. Tere yaad aye tere jaanai kai baad!
Any country fighting against invaders is Jihad.All these so called liberals should know that US is an invader in Afghanistan and thus for Afghan ppl/Afghan Talibans its Jihad to fight against them
I like Imran Khan, but he is going a yard beyond where Talibani cult and Islam follow different highways. Talibani cult is based on deep public humiliation, injury and disgrace. They do not believe in human dignity, quality of life. They need pliant human bodies (Just the meat portion) without soul who would submit to them rather than the One and Only, the Creator, the Rehman and Rahim. They promote public contempt. Their belief is based on hate, violence and intimidation. Those who support their belief is not amongst the followers of this great religion of peace, where the religion takes it birth from Word Iqra, and where the start with the praise of Rehman and Rahim.
Well the mask is off now
Thank God, IK finally revealed his true loyalties. i was opting to vote for PTI, not now!
Sensationalist and criminally incriminating headline, Imran khan should sue the tribune for misquoting him just to get hits on the headline.
For the Afghans who are needlessly being butchered and thrown out of their homes it is a Jihad. But what kind of animals are those who kill civilians in the name of Religion??
Amnesty and surrender in-front of these Savages is the real solution here ...
@shoaib khan: What did he say then?
Drones were a result of terrorists killing civilians. Not the other way around. It's not even something you can debate. It's not complicated to look up the timeline, either.
liberal fascists and religious extremists are a curse !!!!
@Umair Savul if you were a supporter you would have checked up if imran khan had made a statement like this imran khan never said war in afghanistan is jihad
Only Tribune could twist words like that!!
Irresponsible and sensationalist reporting by ET imran never said war in afghanistan is jihad..
This guy is insulting the sacrifices made by our people and Jawans for the protection of Malakand division from the menace of fundamentalists and fanatic. i don’t think this guy can led the nation through this critical juncture. i am agree that the people don’t like American oppression but i am more than sure that they neither want the subjugation of the fundamentalists and tyrants.
Please dont simplify an extremely complicated solution by using sweeping remarks, you have just lost a supporter
But the war fought by the same people in pakistan is not jihad?
Imran logic
Brutus at least was clear in his goal, evil though. Mr khan is confused about his Taliban policy. For all their barbarity from Swat to Waziristan and in the whole country, from the blowing up of Jirgas & shrines to attack on Malala, he cannot see a villain in them. He claims we lost 40 thousand lives in war on terror but stops short of saying who killed these 40 thousand people? drones? NATO or the Taliban? Peace march is held against drones in which both militants and innocent people die, but no march against or clear condemnation of the terrorists/Taliban. Further it is claimed that suicide attacks are the revenge for drones. this is really a pathetic logic.
Finally on what basis is he declaring war in Afghanistan as Jehad? If he says it on the basis of NATO troops presence then again he is wrong as NATO has the support of Afghan govt and a large portion of population. In fact these foreign forces were invited to deal with the occupation & interference of other foregin forces i.e Arabs, Chechens, and ISI sponsored Taliban. Similarly, if war against foreigners is a qualification for jehad, what about a military operation against Al-Qaieda and their supporters (who have terrorised our society) in waziristan? Why these double standrds?
“A military operation can be a small part of a larger solution but a conflict cannot be resolved through military operations alone.”
He summed it up well.. :)
lets concentrate on Pakistan first
Imran khan tried to interlink Drone attacks and Taliban attacks. If drone attacks stoped than TTP will surrender to pakistan? He said military operation isn't solution of militancy,well, then what is solution as he knows Talibans not interested in negotiation. Imran should make his stance clear.
The rough up by IJT in PU, the various snubs by the Taliban before the flop 'Peace March' and now the attack on Malala.
Despite all, Khan continues to cling onto the sleeves of extremists.
How can he say its Jihad in Afghanistan.Many civilians and Afghan Security forces are killing in taliban attacks.Are they not muslims.This is total hypocracy.Terrosis is terrorism in every part of the world if innocents are killed.
I like Imran Khan, but he is going a yard beyond where Talibani cult and Islam follow different highways. Talibani cult is based on deep public humiliation, injury and disgrace. They do not believe in human dignity, quality of life. They need pliant human bodies (Just the meat portion) without soul who would submit to them rather than the One and Only, the Creator, the Rehman and Rahim. They promote public contempt. Their belief is based on hate, violence and intimidation. Those who support their brand of Islam is not amongst the followers of this great religion of peace, where the religion takes it birth from Word Iqra, and where the start with the praise of Rehman and Rahim.
Mr. Imran Khan! Malalai was fired on because of this hypocrisy, which has become so prevalent in Pakistan. It does not make any sense to call them Mujahid in one place (Afghanistan) and terrorists in another (Pakistan). Mr. Khan it is this kind of mindset which is responsible for the entire atrocities committed against Pashtuns both in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Shame on you.
A military operation can be a small part of a larger solution but a conflict cannot be resolved through military operations alone,” the PTI chief said.
i totally agree with this, i wish our pseudo liberals understand it quickly
i saw the interview myself imran was saying the militants think war in afghanistan is jihad
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
I once thought voting for PTI but not now!!
headline is totally out of context he was saying the people fighting think ongoing war in afghanistan is jihad.
Behold! It's the 'strategic depth' delirium all over again.
if this is how a highly educated world travelled countryman thinks, i am scared. he doesnt say its against the laws of the country or laws of a civic society, he says its against islam and pashtun traditions? so if non pashtuns and non muslims attacked a pakistani it would some how be ok? and how myopic of imran to cite events as recent as 2004 as reasons of the happenings in the country today. where were you when we were cocooned and brainwashed as a whole nation by zia. ah yes! you used to be playing abroad often.
dumb really!
If Imran will give such statements, then good bye PTI
Just watch how our pseudo pro war liberals jump at this one. They are the only educated pro war liberals in the world who support US in their war OF terror!
If pakistanis vote for IK and he becomes PM, you would've written the script for more Malala like shootdowns to happen.
IK will enter into a peace deal with Taliban, who'll happily accept it, but won't be bound by the general structure of the deal. They'll use it to grow,strengthen and spread terror in one region after another. They'll issue diktats, flog people, kill & maim who disagree - because if Army & IK are affraid to go after them now - how will they do so when they have gained in strength and may even have a safe harbor in Afghanistan??
What Imran Khan is saying should be understood in a much wider context. The War in Afghanistan is the third invasion of that country by a Super Power. The first being Britain who faught three Afghan Wars and lost all of them.Than came the soviet union and got itself disintegrated and now the US from the last ten years but still not in control. Pakistan as a bordering country sharing the same volatile border
With history at the back of mind, we should analyse whether in all these years of turmoil and losing 50,000 precious lives and a never ending uncertianity are we really on path of victory or for that matter stabilty. The answer is a big NO.
Now let us ask ourselves whether we are capable to handle this situation for times to come. The answer is again a big No.
So what do we do than?
The answer is what Imran Khan tells everyone from day one
Imran no one wants to listen to you... We would rather lend our ears to Zaid Hamid
Pathetic.. I feel awful that even IK has gone to such misleading levels.. !!!! I feel hopeless about quality political leadership even coming to Pakistan
Why do the TTP shoot Malala just days after IK rallies in waziristan? isnt the timing strange, as supposedly the threats had begun in april and they could have shot her way before..the role of fazl ur rehman..who is the TTP? why do they (an unknown group in years goneby) claim responsibility for every terrorist attack? raymond davis was reported to have met/called one of TTP's members, why wasnt he investigated and why was he released so quickly? the role of the CIA in Pakistan's (and countless other countries') destablization cannot be overstated, its a historical fact backed by books and books by their own former agents..i believe the CIA, Pakistani government and the TTP are colluding for the past 4 years..corrupt politicians, an agency with resources to bribe, and a band of mercenaries working hand in hand for mutual interests - not a far fetched theory i think!
There is no difference between educated Muslim and uneducated Muslim. You guys are always on Jihad. I am sad to tell you that Muslims wants to be treated well but you treat others like crap. If I am not wrong, there will lot of bloodletting in the Muslim world. This not far in future. You guys believe in nothing but killing.
Lal masjid operation was the right thing to do and should be a template for what needs to be done now. Enough appeasement and erring on the side of caution. Otherwise you will be picked off 1 by 1....
Imran Khan will inshAllah stop the cycle of violence and bring peace to the country.
" . . . The PTI chief condemned the attack on Malala, saying attacking children was against the teachings of Islam ".
Why do you simply condemn the attack. Why don't you condemn the attackers? Why do you become their apologist. Why do you throw in red herrings by talking of "criminal gangs in the guise of Taliban", when their chief spokesperson claims full responsibility for these great deeds of "Islamic Valor". You talk of 40,000 people having died in this war. Please go one step further and elaborate as to how many of them suffered death after being hit in the drone attacks, and how many have died at the hands of these noble Talibans. Please be honest with your numbers. God forbid, if there is an armed attack on to your house and you lose one of your dear ones in this attack, would you have a license to go on a killing spree in your neighborhood
Malala has shown the world how brave she is. I am sure she can live without your hypocritical tears of sympathy. May God protect this brave girl from the hands of these barbarians and their apologists.
We are stuck in rightist Mullah and their allies and leftist Army generals and their allies, please God help the common people of Pakistan. At the end we have to get rid of both elements, like every modern democratic society did.
Actually what IK says is true and more closer to reality. Military operation anywhere in not a solution to the problem. It never has been. Even if you do the military operation, at the end of the day its the civilian setup that is needed to stabilize the situation in that area on long term basis. Here the situation is opposite. Civilian supremacy is nowhere to be seen in the country. Part of it is attributed to the sheer incompetence, extreme corruption, negligence and lack of interest and motivation of the government. Army cant fight this war alone and for how long? If the US is willing to talk to Taliban after decades of occupation in Afghanistan and is still struggling to cope with the insurgency there, why is it that Pakistan must follow the same route? To fight a war that wasn't even its own war to begin with?
Oh the use of the word "JIHAD" and yet no comment i see from the liberal mafia??? unbelievable......!!!
The confuse khan had a recent set back to his confused charter as Taliban ruthlessly and crudely showed their face and also the intentions that how they wanted to act in future. The PTI chief is dilldillying here and there as he has no solid stand. On one side he says that Taliban are good and Jihad in Afghanistan is justified but when Mallalah attack gets world wide condemnation then he eats his tongue and condemn the attack. Now, i want to ask the Confused leader of the PTI that who attacked Mallalah? if these were Taliban which they are then shouldn't Imran Khan come out openly and condemn Taliban for their merciless and callous acts? COME ON iMRAN KHAN DON'T BE HYPOCRITE. NOT ONLY CONDEMN THE ACT BUT THE PERPETRATORS ALSO! PLEASE?
What a dubious title .. Title and news does not match
Jihad does not solve the problems in 21st century. IK if you think we cannot fight taliban then why should we be even giving a nod to fight against super power like US in Afganistan. War should only be the job of a military not of goons like terrosrist groups. militaries should also not feed milk to these "assests"/snakes. snake is a snake no matter yours or mine.
Well Said by Brave Leader of Pakistan.
IK has now thrown off the mask and has come out in open support of the Taliban and their allies. Now is the time for all PTI supporters to condemn his ideology if they don't want Pakistan to be turned into another Afghanistan.
Imrans commennts these days are often loaded with rhetorics bt unfortunately truth n veracity ars its twin victims.by labelling two products of same ideology and same breed bt outsourced to different geographical areas,Khan is playing to the gallaries.This old mantra of good talibans n bad talibans is brain child of Those Who Must Not Be Named in this country and khan,s recent attempts can be billed as means to curry favours wd the back_room boys.amidst all the mayhem that has plagued the country there are very few sane takers of his utterances.Over the years as a bench warmer in pakistan's political arena he has surely learnt art of demagoguery...
“A military operation can be a small part of a larger solution but a conflict cannot be resolved through military operations alone,” the PTI chief said.
Liberals please note that IK doesn't rule out mili ops. Ofcourse, he doesnt- any guarantee to the world of zero terrorism emanating from Pakistani soil would require him to authorize mili ops. Why IK then? Because his mili ops will be better planned (reduce the elements at play- eg drones, foot soldiers who can be inspired to mend ways), will have the tide of public opinion behind him (if elected), and yield maximum results (least collateral damage, maximum ideological terrorists killed/captured)...#votePTI
Pakistani ISI create Taliban and Imran Khan support them. If you have any jihad to do, then do it in your own soil, don't dare to put your dirty feet in the pure soul of Afghanistan.
Just recently Maulana Fazlurehman, the Pakistani political and religious leader, called Imran Khan a Jewish and Western Agent. Today, Imran khan is calling the crimes committed by his tribal brethren in Afghanistan as "Jihad". If the war in Afghanistan is Jihad, going by the same definition, then what TTP ( Tehrik Taliban Pakistan) are doing in Pakistan is a bigger jihad.
I think Imran Khan should stop issuing Fatwas and start cleansing himself from the sins he committed in the past. There are already hundreds of Fatwa centers in Pakistan, there is no need for another cricketer turned politician to embark of a new profession of becoming Mufti.
I think Imran khan is confused or didnt bother to clarify. I guess he meant the war started by Zia under the pretext of Jihad. Only the opponent is different now.
et tu, brutus?
I like Imran Khan and I hope he wins the elections and puts this country on the right tract but I dont think his ideas about Taliban, drone attacks and now war in Afghanistan is a Jehad are not right..Please Mr Khan keep away from making these statements, we need a social revolution in Pakistan to improve the pathetic conditions a common pakistani lives in, we had enough of religious extremeism and Jehads
So Imran thinks those were criminals in the guise of Taliban. In that case why does not Taliban come out with such a statement. Or is it that they only speak through Imran.
Here we go again!
It was happen after Imran Kahan Peace March, President OBHAMA ordered CIA to Kill the Malala Yousafza in order to reduce the pressure due to Imran Khan peace March against drone. As Obhama want to show there is Talban so my Drone policy is not wrong. \
We must understand President Obhama is most powerful person and He has licensee to kill. He gave permission to kill people in Drone attacks. By giving order to kill MALALA the whole world media will forget the Imran peace march and will start to talk about terrorist Talban. I hate all Talban, I am not supporting them, But we must see who will be the beneficiary to that murder. Of course Talban not. But only Obhama as there is election in US soon,
Why Talban not killed her in last three years as she was there, Why they select to kill this time???
Taliban Khan should put his money where his mouth is, that is he should cross over into Afghanistan and fight in this jihad. Also please take PTI along with you, cyber world be much peaceful without them.
If only the solution was as simple as IK has proposed. The Taliban have reached a point in their war against the world where they feel that they can defeat anyone, including the US. As the US withdrawal from Afghanistan seems imminent the Taliban's focus will most definitely turn towards Pakistan. Even before 9/11 the Taliban had started to exert pressure on Pakistan for "transforming" itself into a "Muslim" state following the Taliban model. The Lal Masjid was a test case for them as armed boys and girls used to come out of the Masjid and attack businesses and vehicles with media players; thus acting in accordance with the Taliban faith. If anything the law and order situation would still have deteriorated had Pakistan not joined the war on terror. The ideology of the Taliban thrives on a desire to conquer the whole world and make it a "Muslim" world where women, freedom of expression and civil rights are restrained.
No need to investigate motivations....anyone whose motivation is to hurt the citizens of the country does not need a shrink, they need jail and gallows.
I can share the link of video in which IK said that, That was totally a different thing, and see this journalist, I mean is it really necessary to start another fight? Such an Immature article.
Getting rid of the invading Army is a jihad, but regardless of what happens in Afghanistan the only jihad we need in Pakistan..is Jihad against corruption.
The little support I had for his party is gone. He has exposed himself as a deranged conspiracy theorist.
sir please do some thing sober. you are totally confused , what to say and at what time.
Dear Imran, kindly remain quiet when you have nothing good to say. Please.
I hope Govt dont use this horrible incident to prepare the public sentiment to launch another military operation in tribal belt...Yes these people are worse than animal who attacked our Sister Malala but we need to have a comprehensive policy on terrorism instead of only military option because it hasn't worked so far and it wont work again.....
Now it’s a must on all PTIian to run for Jihad to Afghanistan as Mufti Imran has spoken.
"shahadat hai maqsood o matloob e momin" -- Mufti Iqbal
Is Imran and PTIians not momin?
Rightedly said by Imran khan...TTP is not a faction of Afghan Talban insted they(thugs) are created to defame them and try to create a bad name for the Talibans in General world.The Islamic resistence Force in afghanistan I.e Mujahedeens really abide with islamic principles of women rights ..even they had freed and honured the British reporter Yvonne Ridley in light of Islamic shariah..which results in "free" conversion of her to noble Islam and now working for the Islamic cause ..she's same Yvonne Ridley who highlights the case of Afia siddiuqi in Bagram prision..!!! Yes Defending home land is jihad.
And mr tsunami khan killing innocent civilians is terrorism whether it be drone attacks or taliban suicide attacks.
Resistance against foriegn occupation forces is a lawful activity recognised internationally. But, in Pakistan situation is different. As regards the motivation behind the militants Taliban factions, they want the government to follow internal/ external policies as per their dictates and not as desired by the people through Elected representatives. Had,there been no military operations in SW,lal masjid and Swat; Malala/ lal masjid like incidents would have been massive.Such operations does not completely wipe out the militants, but curtail their activities to a large extent.If military is still in Swat, it is the failure of political government and NOT that of military operations or of the philosophy of military operations.
“A military operation can be a small part of a larger solution but a conflict cannot be resolved through military operations alone,” the PTI chief said.
The conflict can be resolved ONLY by overwhelming military action. The Taliban are an extreme group of insurgents who don't respect rules of engagement and have utter contempt for civic means of conflict resolution. They only understand the language of power. The more you talk, the more they'll consider you weak and beneath their dignity. Come out swinging with bombs and missiles and they'll bow down.
Now if only the Pakistani Army would grow a pair.
Since when did Imran Khan turn into a mullah ?
Simply, shame on you Imran Khan !! Your thinking is worst than any of Pakistani politicins
I hope you win the next election in Pakistan so we can talk face to face and eye to eye ...
Imran is acting to seal his failure......He seems to be confused and morally collapsed after people/companion walk out from his party....... with this statement he tries to increase confusion more in nation..... he should take rest for weeks to revisit his thoughts and revitalized himself.... Yes he can do.... he was/can be a good leader.
He is right. But why shouldnt we in pakistan , nextdoor to Afghanistan , join this Jehad?
what is happening in this country ! No offence but i think IK is going insane.
Taliban Khan is becoming more and more confused day by day, I think the failure of his march and the fact that his maternal relatives have not allowed him to do much point scoring made him mad. He must ask his (x,y or z) brother in law Zac Goldsmith to protest against drones in British Parliament, as Imran himself run his election campaign. Imran, day by day it is clearing on you that you can't become prime minister of Pakistan and this had ruined your nerves.
Then why is Imran not in Afghanistan to do the Jihad? Is he not aware Jihad is obligatory on every able bodied Muslim? Is he afraid of Shahada himself?
This is the most immature statement of a political, and goes against any human, ethical or even islamic standards. These wild beasts have killed so many innocent people and Mr Khan is saying these incidences are happening because of military operations/lal masjid etc. Lal masjid was the right decision of Musharraf government and military operations are the only way to implement writ of law over the loose wild beasts hovering around in the towns/villages of Pakistan in the northern areas. These barbarians have no place on this earth regardless of the reason.
Dear Mr Khan, if the war in Afghanistan is Jihad then kindly do comment on what is your comment on the war in swat and tribal agencies isn't jihad? If they are fighting for their survival the we Pakistanis are also fighting for our survival.
Zara Sochiye!!!
“In the guise of the Taliban, there are several criminal gangs who didn’t even spare PTI workers by demanding extortion money.” Yes, obviously if they were real Taliban, they would have let Taliban Khan's men go because they know they are their brothers, you know, the same religious fanatic that Imran has apparently become. And pleaseeee Imran, stop pretending you give a crap about Malala. This is the kind of world you are progressing by your constant talk so dont tell me this is bad because if this is bad then everything you said is leading to more bad.
Does anyone really believe that the Taliban are going to drop their weapons, abandon their ideology and join the fold when Pakistan withdraws it's support for the WOT? How many Taliban switched sides during the 7 months Pakistan stopped NATO supplies and was barely talking to the American's. Further - does anyone really believe that the USA is going to stop drone attacks just because IK is in charge?
Good bye imran khan. Thank you for opening my eyes. I was driven away with the wind and was going to vote you, But now it is clear. Those who wants liberal forces in the centre, then PPP, MQM, ANP should be voted in. i know they are corrupt, but we have no other choice.
Inshallah, IK is the true savior of Muslims. "Imran added that there was a need to investigate the motivations of various Taliban factions operating in the country, adding that the decision to carry out a military operation in Waziristan in 2004 and the Lal Masjid episode were ‘the main reasons’ behind the violence across the country." This was my comment too in this section earlier.
Khan sahb - Musharraf gave Lal Masjid over a week to put down their arms and negotiate. They shot down army officers. Those people were burning video shops in Islamabad, and final kicker was the kidnapping of chinese. And may I ask, why were there so many guns, grenades and firearms in a mosque? Why were women standing with sticks in that mosque? If thats what you call Islam, then I am sorry, you have clearly lost the true ideology of this religion, which is PEACE and TOLERANCE! Do you still want to "negotiate and talk" with these beasts called "taliban" which means students? Students of what? Hate, illiteracy? If you come into power, will you have the guts to take them down? Pakistanis are rising. So called fundamentalists have no place in this country. Hear the speech by Quaid e Azam on Aug. 15, 1947 clearly, whom you apparently adore so much. Pakistan was made as a secular state for the muslims of India with full protection and rights for all minorities. No one has any security or rights in this country right now. And keep blaming the US for everything - you can visit Malala all you want - the mullahs have destroyed this nation with their hate speeches in mosques and madrassahs. Will you stop them? A 14 yr old girl is fighting for her life right now - get some real guts and condemn the so called "taliban" openly now if you want to be a real cheetah. Cheers.
Imran is acting to seal his failure......He seems to be counfused and morally collapsed after people/companion walk out from his party....... with this statement he tries to increase confusion more in nation..... he should take rest for weeks to revisit his thoughts and revitalized himself...... Yes he can do he was/can be a good leader.
what a disgrace
If Turkey could stay neutral during two Iraq Wars and also attacks on Libya and Serbia, why couldn't we stay neutral in the Afghan war?
People like Imran Khan are the main reason things like this will continue to happen.
attacking children was against the teachings of Islam and Pashtun traditions
I think this was more suitable title for this news.
well said imran khan but our so called pro indian puppet and liberal extremist media will oppose your stance .
Only solution suggested to so called "WAR ON TERROR"!!!!! People will not understand him now!
not a supporter of PTI, but i will 2nd imran khan.
I'm no more supporter of PTI...
:) It sure is jihad!! Bless you for speaking out loud.
PS: wait for the sitting-at-home trolls comments now ...
what is jihad? good or bad?
Khan Sahib please stop justifying these barbarians and stop finding excuses to justify there acts of voilence against the inoccent country man. May be time has come for people like you and your patrons who has supported these so called jihadi look inward find and identify the real enemies. I am in no way or shape support drone attacks, however, I can not turn my eyes when I see these strategic assets killing civilians and military officials and attack our way of life. Khan sahib its time for you to let go of your mentors like gul hameed and Qazi sahib and look to the people who have suffered at hands of these barbarians.
This man is serious embarassment for his followers.
the world is against taliban, but he is still trying to devise ways to extricate them. well, he has lost one more follower today.