A delegation of panchayat leaders from the state visits him in Delhi; he lands up in Sonmarg and tells the people he wants to “understand your pain deeply”. This makes former chief minister Farooq Abdullah so emotional he blurts out, “We are Indians and we will die as Indians. No power can separate us from India. A day will come when children of Rahul and Omar will see fruits of steps taken by us.” In July, Hurriyat leaders met Pakistan’s foreign minister on her official trip to India.
So, who is ruling the state?
Rahul Gandhi organises a corporate picnic with big industrialists. Many promises will be made. Perhaps, for more formula racing, tulip gardens and skiing facilities, to ensure tourist traffic. These are mirages used to market the state to others. He wants to “connect Kashmiri youth with the development process”. There is no introspection as to why that has not happened yet.
Twenty-two-year-old Altaf Ahmad was shot dead in a deliberate attack by Central Industrial Security Force (CISF) personnel in civilian clothes only because he was protesting against the power cut in the biting cold of January. Did it help that Omar Abdullah had also wanted to feel the pain of the common man then? As People’s Democratic Party leader Mehbooba Mufti had said, “The CM announces that power should be cut off to VIP areas, why these gimmicks? Which VIP is here? All are in Jammu and the only VIPs here are the CM and me and both of us have generators and invertors.”
Only a week ago, Gandhi’s tone was decidedly patronising: “Kashmir is a tough and sensitive job … He is the leader of the National Conference (NC) and it is the NC’s decision who runs Kashmir. Omar is a youngster and Kashmir is a difficult place.”
Replace difficult with ‘disputed’ and a similar charade was played out at the UN General Assembly. If Jammu and Kashmir is “disputed territory”, then do India and Pakistan have the right to fight over it? Neither country has followed the UN Resolution of 1948 where a plebiscite would make it incumbent on all of Kashmir to opt for one of the two countries. There is no provision for division. That bits and pieces have been occupied or squandered leads to the question: Do Kashmiris indeed have a case for absolute independence?
The freedom struggle in the state precedes 1947. In 1846, the British — born traders — sold the state to Gulab Singh, the Dogra king of Jammu, under the Treaty of Amritsar. In 1931, the Kashmiris revolted. It would probably qualify as the first attempt at self-determination. Two months after Partition, when India announced its tryst with destiny and Pakistan formed its cocoon Muslim state, Kashmir’s accession to India was neither smooth nor valid. Muslims in Jammu were given an option to cross over to the other side. The brutalities they suffered are consecrated as one more Martyr’s Day.
The rest of India was not affected by the occupation of Pakistani government-propped tribal incursions. The Kashmiris, once again, saw their state preyed upon. The two countries were not going to let go of this one touchy issue history had handed them on a platter. Pakistan, unconcerned about the parts it annexed, wants to assert its identity in Kashmir. Stressing insurgency and militancy, India promotes the victim narrative of how the whole nation is held hostage because of just one state.
In a 2009 survey conducted in both sides of Kashmir by London’s think tank Chatham House, it was found that there was “no support either for joint sovereignty or for maintaining the status quo”. Robert Bradrock, who conducted the study, also said, “… there is no support at all for militancy in the Kashmir valley … About 84-98 per cent oppose militancy in the Valley and there is strong criticism of militant activity”. Is that not the reason it took 40 years after Independence and 10 years after inception in the UK for the Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front to become active in the state?
Turn the killing of a deputy sarpanch from a false alarm militant attack to envy and it exposes how these local leaders are being used. Mohammad Shafi Teli’s was a rags-to-riches story. He owed his wealth to the Border Security Force (BSF) that compensated him well by acquiring his land. Indian Express quoted a police officer: “We know that unlike earlier, local factors like a village feud became a reason. Even last year, former militants were used to get a contractor killed in Kreeri only to settle personal scores.”
Yet, Teli’s murder became a pivot, leading to resignations. The superficial importance given to the 35,000-member local bodies is not as innocent as it appears. They are the call centres of political promotion. It is, therefore, quite natural for Chief Minister Omar Abdullah to flaunt the turnout of over four million people at the elections. What could be the relevance of panchayats in a state where separatist organisations have their own unofficial constituencies and dispense quick justice? Syed Ali Shah Geelani’s fears about these new politicians, although opportunistic, reveal how the centre can deflect the autonomy of the state that has been granted separate rights under the Constitution.
There is some kind of battle here and it seems rather obvious that the state and the centre, as well as some separatist outfits, are aware that frittering away power to small groups will loosen their slippery grip over Jammu and Kashmir.
In the big scheme of owning Kashmir, surrogates are co-opted to display cosmetic democracy.
Published in The Express Tribune, October 6th, 2012.
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@Gaurav:
In addition to the above facts that I've stated, the 'Article of Accession' has been proven as a forgery, since biographical data has proven beyond doubt that the signatories could not have been in the occupied land on the day of the Hindustani invasion. In other words, not only does Kashmir belong to Pakistan politically, religiously, morally, geographically and culturally, it also belongs to Pakistan legally.
Open my eyes?! Try opening a history book, sweetheart.
Hasan
@Mango Man:
Whoops...looks like I hit a raw nerve.
What is the problem with Hindustanis talking about 'known facts'?! I wonder which of you guys first discovered this english phrase and started using it without any knowledge or intellect. Azad Kashmir has a higher standard of living than most of the rest of Pakistan - and since Hindustanis are generally more dirt-poor and malnourished than Pakistanis (you can verify this through the Global Hunger Index and existing poverty data), you should get the idea that Pakistan's Kashmiris are streets ahead of most of you guys. Babbling on about 'external influence' won't make the mass graves of IOK disappear; you will eventually learn that the hard way though.
As for Bangladesh, why only three million deaths? Why not try three billion, or perhaps three trillion?! It's hilarious when you guys get excited by your own lies - this statistic has been debunked so often you're just making a fool of yourself. Besides, the first lesson about respecting human lives in the region came not in 1971 but 1947, when we smashed your 'bharat' into pieces after decades of minority discrimination. That's why you guys serve yourselves up for so much abuse by coming to these sites; 65 years on, and it's obviously still a bitter lesson for you all.
Kashmir belongs to Pakistan, as it always has done - that is made abundantly clear by the relentless protests by the Kashmiris, who usually get gunned down for daring to express their popular will. Half of your beloved Ghandi dynasty has been blown to smithereens by separatist activists - only recently a former Hindustani 'army' officer was assaulted in London by a group of Sikhs in reaction to his brutal involvement in the sectarian clashes of 1984...so trust me, you certainly do need lessons in governance. Unfortunately for you guys, the only language Hindustan has ever understood has been the back of the hand.
Hasan
@Hasan, Your rant justifies it! Firstly, it is a known fact that those in J&K have a better life and more Freedom than those in POK, as per admissions from both sides of the LOC. Secondly, the Kashmir problem would not have existed but for the external interference of Pakistan which is manufacturing news for internal consumption, failing which it will not be able to justify its very own purpose to its own populace as the flag bearer of Islam, and thus implode for lack of governance and economy. Now coming to the governance - We dont need any lessons from Pak on Governance. It is just over 40 years that West Pak inflicted untold horrors on its eastern "brothers" and savaged over 3 Million lives, raped women and made refugees of 10 million people in their own country, just because they had more votes in your own National assembly.! If you cannot give the respect that elections deserve in your own country, you will never understand it in other countries! Now Balochistan is going the same way! Pak has destroyed itself and continues to spiral out of control! Get a life and fix your internal strife before coveting others' and preaching governance!
@Mango Man:
It usually placates the typical Hindustani sense of insecurity to use words like 'slimy' when describing Pakistan, but the brutal truth is that Kashmir belongs to Pakistan purely due to the subhuman behaviour of the demented animals in the Hindustani 'security' forces.
Had there not been so many mass graves, so many assaults on women and children, so much poisonous, violent religious discrimination and so much sheer hypocrisy on the part of most of the Hindustani players, Kashmiris could well have given up their natural desire to join Pakistan many decades ago. Unfortunately, centuries of being slaves to outsiders have deprived you guys of even the most basic experience on how to govern. Really you have only yourselves to blame.
Hasan
@Ghaznavi - I think you need to read the article before commenting. Actually, the author has not even mentioned about Kashmiri Pandits and not the other way around! Secondly, there is no mention of those of from Jammu and Ladakh regions of the state. Kashmir is only a prt of the state. How blind is that? What about their aspirations. Add to that the fact that slimey Pak has gifted away parts of Kashmir to China, without the consent of the natives! The UN resolution expects India to conduct the plebiscite in all areas under one rule - Do let us know when you get your Chinese friends to vacate so that we can have the plebiscite!
It is this victim-game that Pak and some Kashmiris are playing to the galleries, obfuscating facts and real issues, thereby milking the donors for the last 65 years.
So funny, Indians commenting here using the US and THEM narrative. They never even bothered to read that the Author lady is an Indian and lives in Mumbai. This is what Indians themselves are saying about Kashmir, time to wake up and smell the coffee.
While there are many comments on Kashmiri Pundits but no regard for Kashmiri Muslims. Another example of how Indians see everybody from the religious and ethnic angle. For Indians its not that Kashmiris are Indians first and then Pundits and Muslims but the other way round. With this mindset, no wonder Kashmiri Muslims don't want to be part of India!! India herself is responsible for how it has treated Kashmiris for the past 65 years but Indians continue to bury their head in the sand.
Majority of Kashmiri people are Muslims, the King may have been Hindu who brought it for a few rupees,it don't mean he can rule a majority populated Islamic province just because his the head of the province,other wise why was he kicked out? If it's a case of, Pakistan saying they have a right to it because the majority populace is Muslim, and India has a legal and administrative right to say it is thiers, why don't you both let the Kashmiri people decide who they would want to be with, they could chose to be with Pakistan or India or they may even chose to be an Independent nation, or why don't you form a bilateral agreement and start power sharing?
@Plal: They chose to settle in India instead.
Followers of rishi kashyap owns kashmir and they are hindus....hindus own not just kashmir but whole south asia!
@FV: No wonder coz of this attitude only ,we in india become more concerned over your growing population.Upcoming serious threat.
Last time your article was about a silly movie with objectionable content. Now its about a very serious topic. May I ask what prompted the jump?
@FV:
It makes no difference if you were Indian, Pakistani or some other national, because what we discuss here are opinions & points of views. Not the identity of the one voicing it.
It is absurd to believe any survey could show 98% of Kashmiris choose independence, because the state of J&K has far higher number of Hindus. At time of British, J&K had a combined 64% muslims (Kashmir valley had 95%). Today the numbers are about 70% muslims vs 30% non-muslims.
If the survey was representative, then it is impossible that 98% would've chosen to be independent - for that would mean minorities willingly submit themselves to become second grade citizens.
It is quite possible a majority in J&K may opt for Independence given a choice, but then a Majority in Tamilnadu also may opt for a separate nation at times, when the Linguistic Tamil sentiments are high. It means nothing.
@rp We in Indian occupied kashmir have no bias against any individual including indians, Our feelings of revenge are for indian state. India because of its machiavellian politics might succeed in retaining kashmir (land) for a while but it has lost kashmiris LONG BACK, betrayal after betrayal, atrocities beyond one's imagination, rigging in the name of democracy, custodial killings & what not. It is this cumulated anger that gets reflected when any indian politician visits kashmir....
@FV: Looks like the comments from Indians got to you. You are most welcome to write about Kashmir but be prepared to get bouquets and brickbats in the process. Pakistanis would love it and Indians will hate it.
So indians, you want to listen Kashmiri views about Pakistan. Then check out youtube. Kashmir University students sung Pakistans national anthem while rahul kid was delivering his 'gyan'. KASHMIR BANEY GA PAKISTAN. JEEVE JEEVE PAKISTAN. PAKISTAN, KASHMIR LOVES YOU. God bless ummah.
@Bhismah Arya: Kashmiri Pandits were against educating muslims, returning the land to them and of course independence.How can a small minority keep vast majority of Kashmiri muslims hostage for their own reasons. Migration to Jammu was your choice and you paid for it. Why don't you ask Jagmohan who orchestered your migration?
The author is obfuscating facts about which she is completely confused while displaying her complete and total ignorance of the situation on the ground, as a result of reading up one-sided versions on prejudiced blogs run by dummy kashmiris on behalf of the ISI/Pak Gov! Get your facts right and grow a brain, lady!
Just give them independence and be done with it.
Just a few points:
The bio clearly mentions my location, just in case people do not know.
The 'Who owns Kashmir?' is rhetorical based on the disparate voices, specified in para 2, and not literal.
I have and will continue to write on J&K. Thanks for the concern.
I do not obfuscate, so I am on the side of Kashmiris. Problem is there are divisions there too.
Balochistan, Waziristan had no reason to be in this piece, and Pakistan's treatment of the other side of Kashmir was not detailed but it was mentioned. If you have the time, do read.
@Chatham House. Indeed, the poll did suggest that 98% support independence.
If anyone is still looking in, here is an older ET piece in gentler times:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/13908/a-kashmiri-victory/
Thanks for reading-weeding. I guess my 15 minutes are up..
Who owns Kashmir? Answer: India. signed : Maharaja of Princely state of Jammu and Kashmir and real Kashmiri people(Indians). . Uzbeks and Arabs are free to decide whether to stay in India or migrate to Pakistan. (Uzbekistan and Arabia will not not accept them)
@naeem khan Manhattan,Ks
I jus saw Kerala in your list and decided not to read anymore. goes on to show how ignorant you are about India! pathetic!!
kashmir was never a disputed territory ,not it is ,i visited kashmir many times no kashmiri wanted to talk about Pakistanis ...they hate pakistan
both the nations be happy wd what u have..stop fighting let kashmiris live a peaceful life also....both nations shuld b ashamed of what they r doingggg.
@Fayaz: "Could not understand your article. Bottom line – Kashmiri’s hate India and Indians. Let them leave us alone." Take a one way ticket to Islamabad. @Author No point discussing Kashmir if you are not discussing partition
Elegantly summed up the mess. The recent rhetorics of Rahul G just add to india's colonial tactics,"beware of the imperialists offering friendship and bearing gifts". Free Kashmir.
Pakistan supports "Azaadi" too. We talk about people's aspiration.
The Kashmir dispute has created three losers. Out of all this mess only the Goras (who created this parting gift it in the first place) won and are still wiining. Think about that. Nice to read Farzana here.
Oh - I did not realise the author is Indian. My mistake.
So I take back the drone argument. But I would advise the author to visit the state, speak to the people and realise how precarious their economy is. And also marvel at the diversity of the state that within a day's drive will take you through hindu, sunni muslim, shia muslim and buddhist parts -all living peacefully with each other.
The truth is whatever the sympathies the author has for the sunni muslims of the valley - Indian forces would not have stayed a day there if the overwhelming majority of the local population did not want them there.
To cite an analogy, India did not liberate bangladesh - it was the bangladeshis who did it - you think the indian soldiers would have so rapidly progressed to dacca if the local population had not supported them?
YOu spoke of one sarpanch, I can tell you about K from Kargil - a shia muslim who drives tourists from srinagar to Leh and then lets his buddhist colleague take over in Leh - he does not fully trust the sunni muslims from the valley - but his heroic spirit of helping other drivers along the road speaks of a people that is proud, independant and want to live an honourable life. I dont see that under any sunni majority rule. Do you? As for your question - who owns Kashmir - I own it as much as the Kashmiri who lives in my neighbourhood in the South of India.
@Hukka , Yes definitely doubt about Pakistani occupation of Balochistan since 1948. Balochistan should be independent.
"Who owns Kashmir?"--I think the answer to this question should be clear: The Kashmiris (on both sides of the LOC). What association can a South Indian from Bangalore have with Srinagar or Pahelgam--why is that land their "atoot ang"? Similarly, a Pathan from Quetta doesn't really care about Kashmir. It is the Kashmiris, and the Kashmiri-Punjabis who care.... My grandmother still tells stories about going from (Pakistani) Punjab to Srinagar and renting a houseboat on the Dal Lake--this is how they spent their summers prior to 1947--- something that I, as her grandson, cannot do anymore......
Kashmir belongs to Pakistan and India has illegally occupied some parts. Also India is involved in worst forms of state terrorism. Any doubts?
@Hasan: How can Kashmir belong to Pakistan when Pakistan was itself part of British "India" and before that it was always ruled by kings and mughals of "Indian" sub-continent ? The label for Pakistan is coined just 65 years ago. While the word Hindustan has been coined thousands of years ago. Grow up and stop believing that world is only 1400 yrs old :)
I would like to know from author ,whether Kashmiri Pundit owns Kashmir or not and where are they?
Just another self-serving article written in complete or near-complete denial of facts. The author conveniently does not mention the atrocities committed by Pakistanis in their occupied portion esp in Gilgit Baltistan where there is a full-scale "ethnic cleansing" in progress, and rakes up (or rather plays-up) the "broken-record" of plebiscite! Remarkably she speaks about the idiots called the Hurriyat (who have no backing other than some stone-throwing rabble in the gullies/gutters of Old Srinagar) in the same breath as those duly elected by over 70% of the population for the J&K Assembly of India! This fact alone is a rock-solid vote for the system and State of India, no matter what so-called resolutions of the UN say (and everyone knows how discredited that "August body" and its resolutions are anyway!) ... Lastly, yes as another reader said before about what "Mr Amul Baby" said -- forget that, the fact is that Kashmir (and whoever lives there from whichever religion, caste, creed etc) is part and parcel of the Indian ethos and heritage since time immemorial. And you cannot selectively cite history where it suits you like a certain Pakistani called SAS Geelani likes to do be it 1947 or 1931 or 1846 or whatever. If you do, then remember so too can we. When it comes to the crunch we (i.e. Indians) are ALL KASHMIRIS no matter whatever X or Y or Z person or institution says or thinks. Enough said!
@Hasan: " ... Kashmir has historically been a part of Pakistan ... "
Historically there has never been a Pakistan.
just to correct In my above comment it was about Anti mohamad movie protest
being a kashmiri pandit myself we want to be with India kashmir is the land of our ancestors..kashmir word is itself derived from the word kashyap Rishi..It will always remain a Integrated part of India no matter how much terrorist try to disturb the peace of Kashmir....
This is our appeal to hear the plight of we kashmiri pandits we want justice for the Genocide of kashmiri pandits our people are still rioting in jammu we want to return back...Indian govt is miserably failed to give us justice..We want justice ..Jai Hind
@Hasan: "Kashmir has historically been a part of Pakistan " If this were true, how come Pakistan ceded large parts of the disputed state to your "higher than mountain friend", China? You cannot "buy" friendship this way. This land ceded to China and so called "Azad Kashmir" needs to be put on the table for any meaningful negotiations. Until this happens you are whistling in the dark.
Could not understand your article. Bottom line - Kashmiri's hate India and Indians. Let them leave us alone.
The author makes some salient points, particularly about the condescending stupidity of successive Hindustani administrations.
Kashmir has historically been a part of Pakistan - this was as true in the build-up to Partition as it has been in the ensuing decades through which the Kashmiris have suffered violently in their struggle for emancipation. As can be seen even from these comments, Hindustanis typically become quite bug-eyed and hysterical when the simple question in the title is raised; the incoherent answers, as always, range from some pointless rants about drones all the way to an idiotic, ham-fisted assessment of Sunni-Shi'a tensions. Of course, it is beyond the comprehension of most Hindustanis that the mass graves of Kashmir contain Muslim schoolchildren of both sects.
The simple answer to the question can be found on 14th and 15 August every year - on the former, the people of Kashmir wave the Chand Sitara and sing the Qaumi Tarana, and on the latter, they come out waving black flags in mourning.
Elementary, dear Author.
Hasan
Why she take NO pain to say there still 6 Lakh kashmiri Pandits who are kicked out by jehadis are living as Refugee in their own country and Govt is NOT helping them...NO NGO Support for them ..There houses are occupied by the Local Muslims..Temples Demolished...why she don't say Hurriyat or so called sepratist are involved in scam which invlove Taking over the properties of kashmiri pandits ..I feel shame full to say that Indians was NOt able to protect their own citizens NO justice has been done to the Genocide of Kashmiri Pandits in late 1990's which then lead to make 6 lakh kashmiri pandits as refugee...No Voice for them that is so much painful..
And about Altaf Ahmed we know what kind of protest these guys do by burning public property looting etc..3 days back in UP Anti Islmic proptest was happening and they guys destroyed the police station and 10 vehicles torced molested the local police women 3 people Stabbed...So it is the only way left to stop these kind of Protests..this is highly Biased Article
There is an Notices over most of the Kashmir stick by jehadis to Kill the Sarpanchs and they have already killed 7 ..Yes there are Militiants over there which having backing of Pak based terrorist Group like LET..We need Army over there to keep the unholy plans of Militants at bay ..Recently these Militants burnt famous sufi Shrine in Kashmir...
Looks like ET editor decided it was time for another piece on Kashmir and gave the author 15 minutes to put something together.
@Babloo: "Meanwhile more than a million tourists visited Indian Kashmir this year, breaking all previous records and peace reigns with an elected state government that has more powers than any state government in Pakistan. "
Actually the toursim story is better than that. LAst year 13 lakh people visited Kashmir valley, 6 lakh people visited Amrnath temple in Jammu around 2 lakh people visited Ladakh and none of this includes the almost 1 crore pilgrims that visit Vaishno Devi temple.
This year the numbers are expected to be much better.
Lady:
It isn't sufficient for a population to have strong urge for the creation of new nation on some narrow sectarian ground, there should be a very strong moral foundation for such a demand. even the oldest democracy of the world, USA went to war with its south to maintain the integrity of USA.
Typically denial of equal rights is a good ground for demanding a new nation. That hasn't been the case in Kashmir. The only demand for separation comes from Kashmiri Muslims on religious grounds - that Muslims can't be governed by another majority community.
A similar religious partition in 1947 resulted in not only massive blood shed, but also in creation of Pakistan, that is easily among the most religiously intolerant countries in the world, which relegates all non majority community citizens to second grade status..
Why would India or world wish the same to happen to minorities of Kashmir? Does a majority have the right to demand a nation just so they can eliminate, convert or discriminate the minority??
@Yes!: "The only solution is to make the line of control an official border with both sides learning to be content with the parts they control. Simple. "
India is a status quo country. It is Pakistan who wants to alter the status quo and needs to rethink.
The author talks of Kashmir's "jigsaw puzzle", when her disoriented piece looks like jumbled pieces of God only knows how many jigsaw puzzles.
India owns Jammu and Kashmir and it will remain with it forever.
Who owns Kashmir? Of course Kashmiris.
Sorry. I read the article 3 times and could not understand the point the author is trying to make. Is this a call to action - if so what is the ask? Is this supposed to provoke thought - iin which case what are the 2/3 take-aways? Is this supposed to be a critique of an existing policy - in which case which policy are we talking about and what exactly is being criticized?
Totally stumped.
Jammu and Kashmir will remain with India. Period
" If Jammu and Kashmir is “disputed territory”, then do India and Pakistan have the right to fight over it? " A very strange statement indeed! Apparently the author thinks they do not have a right to fight over a dispute. A territory, or any thing else, is disputed precisely because there are more than one claimant claiming its possession. Yes, they do have the right to fight over it. How else can one or the other take possession of the disputed territory?
The only solution is to make the line of control an official border with both sides learning to be content with the parts they control. Simple.
Probably not a true story but worth a read (source-All over the net) :-
Who owns Kashmir?
An ingenious example of speech and politics occurred recently in the United Nations Assembly that made the world community smile. A representative from India began:
’Before beginning my talk I want to tell you something about Rishi(sage) Kashyap of Kashmir, after whom Kashmir is named. When Rishi Kashyap struck a rock and it brought forth water, he thought,’What a good opportunity to have a bath.’ He took off his clothes, put them aside on the rock and entered the water. When he got out and wanted to dress, his clothes had vanished. A Pakistani had stolen them.
The Pakistani representative jumped up furiously and in support of Pakistan, he shouted, ‘What are you talking about? The Pakistanis weren’t there then.’
The Indian representative smiled and said, ‘And now that we have made that clear, I will begin my speech saying that Kashmir has been an integral part of India all along.’
Biased Article
The report also stated 98% support for Independence.
@sid: Experience over a long period of time has taught me that it is only exceptionally that a Muslim will have anything good to say about a non-Muslim especially when there is a comparison between the two. Farzana Versey by her writing has shown that she is no different.
Twenty-two-year-old Altaf Ahmad was shot dead in a deliberate attack by Central Industrial Security Force (CISF) personnel in civilian clothes only because he was protesting against the power cut in the biting cold of January. The CISF is tasked with protecting "industrial installations" - they do not do street patrols like the CRPF / Army. So unless Altaf was "peacefully" destroying govt property, there would be no reason for the CISF to fire at him. Kindly do not make him out to be a martyr. Let's get one thing clear - there will never be an "independent" Kashmir - Pakistan will not allow it, neither will India, and with land gifted to the Chinese, neither will they. And when you talk about the urge for "independence" among Kashmiris, are you also including the Pandits, who were brutally driven out of their ancestral homeland by the militants, and are the residents of Ladakh and Jammu, also counted to see if they desire "independence". I'm pretty sure, there will be a resounding NO from these folks. So the only way out is to accept the status quo as permanent and move on - anything else is just delaying progress in Kashmir. It is time Article 375 is dissolved and rest of India allowed to in.
Indian Kashmir today is 1000 times better in every way than most of pakistan and certainly Baluchistan, Waziristan. Visit it and you will know. But unfortunately you cannot visit waziristan or Baluchistan ! Meanwhile more than a million tourists visited Indian Kashmir this year, breaking all previous records and peace reigns with an elected state government that has more powers than any state government in Pakistan.
"In the big scheme of owning Kashmir, surrogates are co-opted to display cosmetic democracy."
Like, hello - init true of the remainder of the bloomin' Akhand Bahrat - all of it is OWNED by one family thru surrogates - if you think Raja Sahab is an owned PM, you ain't seen MMS dance yet. Heck, Madam even owns Pranab Da (like she did Pratibha tai)
India Owns, Thanks!
Not a world on POK or so called Azad Kashmir........Is everything fine their?......And what about the separatist movement in Balochistan.....Do they deserved to be heard??
india of course ....we have illegally occupied it ...........
not a word about kashmiri pandits............this shows the sensitivity of author
There are too many points in this op-ed that appear to be going nowhere, so let's focus on the title - Who owns Kashmir? The answer to this question is based on the 16th century concept in that possession is nine-tenths of the law. There is no progress on the Kashmir issue because Pakistan refuses to stop playing its double game of supporting Kashmiri aspirations in public and coveting their territory and water in private. If Pakistan agrees that an independent Kashmir has no locus standi (which is in line with the 1948 UN resolutions), then the choice before the Kashmiri people will be simple; if it continues to play the same tune, then they should discard the UN resolution argument. India has actually been rather stupid in sticking by Article 370 to maintain the ethnic integrity of Kashmir while PoK is now full of Punjabis and Shia dominated Gilgit-Baltistan undergoes a continuous orgy of Sunni-inspired sectarian violence; we should have treated the state as any other region and allowed investment and people to flow in and out - playing like a cricketer in a rugby match is just not sound logic. In addition, pseudo-secular forces have ensured that the gangrenous regions are not separated, due to which Jammu and Ladakh are tarred with the same brush. We need to bring investment and people into these parts of J&K - if Kashmiri youth want jobs, they should be able to find them; if they want an Islamic state, they don't have to travel very far.
@Author
Who owns Kashmir ? Answer is simple . Kashmir is occupied by 2/3 by Pakistan just after pakistan born . Rest part is still with India .
@ Farzana Versey
whose side are you ?
|"The rest of India was not affected by the occupation of Pakistani government-propped tribal incursions"
Author lady - this is the thinking that helps most Pakistanis sleep well despite the fact that their sovereignty is being violated by drone attacks - because it is happening somewhere far away to people you do not consider pakistanis worth protecting.
We do not have to go back to 1947 and the number of indians who died fighting the so-called tribals. 500 soldiers from every part of India died during the kargil war. In the heart of Drass, there is a memorial in the name of one officer Pandey who is definitely not kashmiri but one who believed kashmir was worth protecting. Every day, there are innocent kashmiris dying because your regime wants to bleed india by a thousand cuts.
Seriously - look within and fight the drone guys first.