The wait to get a visa can be many weeks or even months, to most destinations, whether you are an academic, professional or business person. Last month, when members of the Pakistani elite were sending their children to the US and Canada to start their higher education, many fathers were not given visas in time to accompany their children. It is usually men, Pakistani men, who are subjected to additional processing and screening or extensive delays when they apply to visas to many countries. Since 9/11, these additional processing delays along with extensive application forms have become the bane of any Pakistani wanting to travel overseas. Until the Mumbai attacks of 2008, India was the exception.
Visas to India — after former General-president Pervez Musharraf’s volte-face following Kargil and Agra — were far easier for Pakistanis to acquire. For about three or four years, India was the preferred destination of many Pakistanis irrespective of class, gender or ethnicity. In the now-prehistoric good old days of cricket matches in the last decade, it almost seemed like Pakistan and India were neighbours, of course with differences and unresolved disputes of over six decades, but still willing to allow people to travel to each others’ countries. Visas were easily available, at least for Pakistanis, and the only hassle and obstacle one had to endure, were the Pakistani spooks outside the Indian High Commission in Islamabad asking irrelevant questions. Indians coming to Pakistan faced more difficult challenges.
In fact, any visa regime between India and Pakistan will benefit Pakistanis more than it will Indians. More Pakistanis will always want to visit India than the reverse traffic, with the possible exception of Indian Sikhs wanting to visit their holy places in Pakistan. With a very large Pakistani migrant population from undivided India which came in the period 1947-52, both Punjabi and Urdu-speaking, there are still ancestral ties and some sense of vague association to the lands which are in India. Apart from these connections, there are numerous other Pakistanis who would want to visit India like other normal visitors; as tourists, business people and for religious pilgrimages, and just to enjoy being in a different country where, at least in north India, language and culture are far more familiar than in other countries of the region or farther afield.
Understandably, since November 2008, and especially once David Headley had been identified as one of the key operatives in the Mumbai attacks, it has been near impossible for normal Pakistanis, even well-connected normal Pakistanis, to get a visa to visit India for a host of purposes, whether meetings, conferences or business purposes. Compared to the pre-2008 period of visitor exchanges and cricket matches, the last four years have been troubled, barren and disheartening for those who have worked for and believed in an India-Pakistan future which was friendly, open and allowed citizens to visit each others’ countries.
The initiatives announced last week at the India-Pakistan Foreign Ministers’ meetings in Islamabad, are a bold and appropriate first step in moving to a visa regime which better reflects the wishes and aspirations of many people, particularly Pakistanis who are bound to benefit far more than Indians in a liberal visa regime between the two countries.
There is no denying the fact that the eight new categories of visas are indeed a big step forward, especially allowing concessions to Pakistani business people and those over 65, and all these measures have already been hailed by the Pakistani business community and by civil society. However, the question of processing time, scrutiny and general hassles will determine the efficacy of the new visa regime. While Pakistanis can apply for visas to any country in the world, it is what happens after they apply, which has been cause for concern. One hopes that while the initial sentiment between India and Pakistan is highly positive, the actual implementation of the new liberalised visa agreement will also be so.
Moreover, given the interest by many Pakistanis to visit India — and vice versa — any developments on the new visa regime will have to have substantial support structures to make the scheme workable. Just one Indian or Pakistani High Commission in the capital handling visa applications is inefficient and will give rise to bureaucratic delays. For a start, both countries need to open many more consulates in the cities from where they are expected to receive applications. More flights are also needed between Pakistan’s three main cities to at least Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi and Chennai, to make the visa regime more realistic. The announcement of the Islamabad-New Delhi flight is a beginning.
The problems with moving forward on visa regimes or trade or cricket between India and Pakistan are not the difficult and bureaucratic resistance to change and the implementation of new processes, but actors on the Pakistani side who have disrupted all peace (and visa) processes in the past: Kargil, the Indian parliament attack, Mumbai. The ability and freedom of Pakistanis wanting to visit India is inextricably determined by the political economy of Pakistan.
Published in The Express Tribune, September 13th, 2012.
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@Fighter: Were you talking about your country by mistake or when was the last time you read news?
@andleeb(Ottawa,Canada): I hold MBA (1992) from Ottawa University and I am living here in Canada since 1990. Many Pakistanis call themselves Indians in the job interviews. I know this because I see/interview them on daily basis.
@Nitish Please read my comment before passing such remarks. I am not referring to Indian companies hiring inexperienced Pakistanis from campuses as India has an abundance of young talent available. I am talking about experienced & proven corporate talent ie mid 30s to mid 40s for which you will be surprised, there is a clear shortage in quite a few sectors as a lot of talented Indians end up leaving India, creating this gap. The total shortage of such people would not amount to more than 10 to 20 thousand across India in various sectors which can be filled, not just by Pakistanis, but also Sri Lankans & Bangladeshis, who will find it much easier to adapt to India, compared to professionals from US or Europe. Trust this clarifies.
@Fighter: "Nobody in his right mind would ever want to visit India. I cant think of anything different/new that India has to offer. Our roads and Infrastructure is far superior, our cities are much much more cleaner, apart from some remote area Pakistan in general is much peaceful "
And yet top cricketers come to filthy unsafe India each year while despite being clean and peaceful, Pakistan has to play its home matches in Dubai. Have you wondered why?
National pride is a good thing - head in the sand, not so much.
I have fond memories of Gujar Khan where I spent the first six years of my life. I would love to visit it but all I can do is to see it in Google maps. I was also told by my parents and uncles that he who has not seen Lahore has not lived at all. Then there are numerous other places where my parents and other relatives lived, and I wish I could see those places too. With the current political climate it will not be possible for me to visit either place in this life. God bless all of you in the places of my dreams.
Well well guys,how pakistan is going to accommodate we 4% population of india.i mean we have our own personal reservations about muslim world .will pakistan be able to provide us vegetarian food with accommodation patronized by Hindu?we need our community to assimilate .
@Fighter, your comment shows you have been fighting sanity all your life...and you won.
@shahid: Shahid, not only you but all fun loving Pakistani's are always welcome in India. Anyone who has an open mind is most welcome, is it too much to say we do not want trouble makers. Life is to be lived and enjoyed and valued too.
@Fighter: you really think Indians will fill up your streets? I can guarantee one thing, they won't be Non Muslim Indians at least...
@Ali: . hindus will not rent their apartments/flat to muslims and vice versa By the way comment is not very relevant to the current blog, every thing except vice versa in above given statement is not true at all.Dont start as usual hindu -muslim debate.
@Roy: Have you any idea about recent economic crisis?People r in fear of loosing their jobs.pata nahi kis duniya me rah kar baat karte hain.infosys has already cancelled visiting campuses.Talking about talents,How come pakistanis going to match with ours.There is a bigger....bigger gap.First we need to accommodate ourselves,then put focus on others.
@Falcon: And my wish list in Pakistan includes - famed food streets of Lahore, Bustling city Karachi, Shahbaaz Kalandar shrine, Data Darbaar, Nankana Sahib and so many
And and ...if they allow me - I would love to go to in Hinglaj, Makran coast in Balochistan, Pakistan. but will they allow me ??
And by the way ... I am not a RAW agent, but a true friend of peaceful invisible Pakistanis
Your's truly
Kallu Mama India
India and Pakistan became independent of each other 65 years ago....both sides,get over it ! A fine example is that of Malyasia and Singapore, they work in harmony and both prosper. Get your minds out of the gutters!
@Ali: "The mistrust and prejudices between hindus and muslims is eternal "
This blog is about India/Pakistan not Hindu/Muslim. So you have an underlying assumption that Pakistan = Muslim and India = Hindu. Well it may caome as a surprise to you that in India there are240 million non-Hindus - more than the total population of Pakistan. You are also disowning the Pakistani citizens who may not be Muslim. Think about it,.
@Indian Wisdom: "Pakistan is a beautiful country " ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The issue is with the beauty of the Pakistanis. And I am not referring to Veena Malik.
Appreciate the honesty of the author to put things in perspective. Its high time that talented, experienced & well educated Pakistanis look at cities in India like Mumbai/Delhi/Chennai/ Bangalore/Hyderabad & Pune, as places to live and work. This will be beneficial for India, as there is a talent shortage in some key sectors of the economy, like IT & Banking, and it will be beneficial for these Pakistanis as they can put to use their education & experience. Pakistan does not offer these professionals meaningful opportunities to use their talent & expertise, as its economy is vastly underdeveloped, and most of them have always looked at the US/UK/Canada & Australia for employment opportunities, which is also not forthcoming nowadays after 9/11 & also due to the troubled state of the world economy.
Hey, guys I have a plan. Can we form a group and visit Pakistan. It can be great trip.
Interested Pakistanis can do the same. Infact I may join you when and if you come to India. You will be surprised to know that there are so many things and places here and we ourselves have not visited most of them
@gp65 & @sid
Thanks for the generous welcome gesture. I certainly look forward to visiting India (whenever that happens).
@andleeb Your games won't last long. World has waken up to people like you. If you demand everything at gun point, then i see Muslims will be the next Jews in making.
The mistrust and prejudices between hindus and muslims is eternal (1000 years of history proves it). even in so called secular india you will find muslims living in their own areas and hindus in their own. hindus will not rent their apartments/flat to muslims and vice versa. this visa regime will quickly go away once we realize that indians are using this for creating unrest in balochistan and gaining foot hold in pakistani side of kashmir.
@andleeb (Ottawa, Canada)
So, this virus has reached Canada too. When are you going to ask for self determination? Maybe we will see the Islamic state carved out before Quebec. That would be simply surreal.
@Polpot:
you missed out one thing.- Dont sit next to your wife in a mcdonalds"
cc: Fighter
i d love to visit Goa , heard its such a fascinating place. I even want to see the F1 Grand Prix in Delhi, Wish we could host one in pakistan because im such a race fanatic
cc: Fighter
@ andleeb(Ottawa,Canada)
what a narrow minded person you are. You threaten the very people who gave you refuge from your accursed nation.
India is and will always be skeptical of any pakistani visiting its land. only pakistan is to blame for it. a lot of insurgency in india and trouble is created by pakistanis who cannot live in peace. be it kashmir, punjab, mumbai, our parliament etc. where as pakistan hasnt faced any problem with indians bombing their cities etc.
so it is only fair if india is more strict. not only india but all other nations have the same attitude towards pak nationals, they all cant be wrong. pakistan will have to work on its internal situation and mentality of its citizen. more people to people contact is always good, i am glad they came up with a liberal visa policy for elderly , businessmen and tourists. now pak civil society will have to be more responsible. even if one person creates any trouble on above visas then everyone knows how far back this initiative will go back.
Advice to all Indian Visitors Planning a Trip to Pakistan +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1.Pls settle all your affairs and write a legally valid Will. 2.Take a large Insurance if available. 3.Study the blasphemy Law. 4. Pray and improve your relationship with your maker. One cant be too careful.
What fascinates me about India is that she has a rich culture, diverse communities, various languages, and countless activities for fun and enjoyment.... whenever find an opportunity I will definitely go through the whole India. Pakistan also has some great things to be explored, but I fear to visit some areas which deserve our visits and the irony is "I am a Pakistani".
@Fighter: I agree with you. Pakistanis should come to Canada and see for themselves how much they welcome muslims. There is no dearth of food or place here and I have no doubt the in the next 20 years most of the west will be Islamic. Pakistanis should apply for Canadian visas instead of India visas.
@ Fighter..
no words for your ignorance..after all ignorance is bliss..and most of the pakistanis live in that bliss..but for how long ? that's the answer we're trying to find here..
now see what happens
Definitely this is a good step forward. My neighbors in Delhi all are migrants from KP and Sindh are dying to visit the places of their origin. Even we would like to visit the places which have already been mentioned by my compatriots i.e. Harappa, Mohan jo Daro, Lahore and definitely the river Indus , upon which our country and even religion is named.
@S Akbar Zaidi "In fact, any visa regime between India and Pakistan will benefit Pakistanis more than it will Indians." Please don't generalize it. Pakistan is a beautiful country and with very similar culture to ours and lot of Indians will be benefited who want to visit Pakistan. If the security condition improves places like Swat and GB will be paradise for Indian visitors/tourists.
@Mirza:
While I see your point on age, the intent is to make it difficult for would-be terrorists to enter India. An age of 65 is a reasonable compromise. May be, after sometime, with good relations established, the age limit could be relaxed.
@Fighter: "Nobody in his right mind would ever want to visit India." and "I have talked to people who have visited bombay" Are you saying the people you talked to were not in their right minds? Medical help is urgently required.
@Arpit: Taxila too...
"it has become very difficult for Pakistanis to get visas to most countries. " ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ever wonder why?
"Just one Indian or Pakistani High Commission in the capital handling visa applications is inefficient and will give rise to bureaucratic delays. "
I smiled when I saw this. India has 5 consulates in Afghanistan - in the exact same cities that Pakistan has its consulates. Yet the presence of these consulates has led to accusations that they only exists to push terrorism to Pakistan. I wonder how people would feel if India actually opened additional consulates in the capitals of the 4 provinces i.e. Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar and Quetta.
@ Fighter ..
Filthy minds will visit Filth ... Even when Mumbai attack was telecasted live ... People all over the world have seen what Mumbai is .. Try and clean the filth in ur head ... that might help u ...in some ways ...
excellent article.
I would like to visit Mohanjodaro and Harappa.. I was always fascinated about them when we read about them in History .. and language is still undeciphered!!
I think Indians will be more enthusiastic to travel to Pakistan due to sheer curiosity and cultural similarity!
I welcome author's stand :)..
-- An Indian
The new visa regime should be applauded by all sections of people. I hope it is not exploited by unscruplous individuals and derailed. Like they say the proof of the pudding will be in the eating.
@Falcon: Welcome. Hope yuo have a faboulous time.
Some enterprising individual should start a one stop VISA outsourcing to India PR PAK to make the matter easy on both ends.
@Falcon: People with good intentions are welcomed.............When u come u will see whether we persecute Muslims or not???????????
Personally, I would love to visit Delhi and Ajmer Sharif. Hope that happens in my lifetime.
You want India to open more "consulates" ? - most brainwashed Pakistanis will recoil in horror - thanks to the constant brainwashing by the Establishment that the Indian consulates Afghanistan are responsible for all violence and terrorism in Pakistan!!
In short - no liberal Visa regime is going to reverse the India-centric paranoia that the decades of Establishment brainwashing of Pakistanis has caused.
One more attack linked to the so called "non-state actors" in Pakistan and all this goodwill will vanish in to the thin air. My guess, at best we have one more year before anything major happens in India liked to Non-State Actors in Pakistan and we will be back to square.
Your last para is very true and fair. I do have a problem with the senior citizen's age. In both India and Pakistan most people do not have long lives like the west and retire when they are 60 years or even younger. The senior citizen's age of 65 is rather high for that part of the world. It should have been 60 years or so. Most 65 years and older do not have the strength and desire to take extensive tours. In addition there should be an easy visa for medical needs. I am looking forward to meeting my friends and relatives once again perhaps this coming winter.
wow - read through the article and could find only one opinion disputable - that of Indians having a lesser inclination to travel to pakistan - on the contrary if matters were normal many indians would love to visit pakistan - especially mohenjo daro, harappa, lahore and perhaps islamabad.
Nobody in his right mind would ever want to visit India. I cant think of anything different/new that India has to offer. Our roads and Infrastructure is far superior, our cities are much much more cleaner, apart from some remote area Pakistan in general is much peaceful (don't believe me? well then just browse any Indian news site and you will see minorities are being harassed every day. I have talked to people who have visited bombay and everyone has only think to say, filth, beggars, mafia.
If only, am worried about Indians filling up our streets. I know, there would be many Indians who would deny this, but hey that wont change the reality.
@author: " ... In fact, any visa regime between India and Pakistan will benefit Pakistanis more than it will Indians. ... "
Demand for a liberalized visa regime has always been from the Pakistan side. Nevertheless, the sane minded Pakistani with a secular outlook is always welcome. It is just that the "Islam is the end-all and be-all" crazies need to be kept out.
Proud Pakistanis have no reason to visit India! Zaid Hamid would be so disappointed!! Why would we want to visit India when we can watch Indian movies, tv shows, quiz shows right here, by Salman Khan posters and have Katrina Kaif sell us soap! Not to forget the India, Zakir Naek coming in live. Patriotic Pakistanis will not visit India! They want our nukes!