The politics of relief: Aliens in their own land

Published: August 18, 2010
500 flood survivors from Ahmadiya community denied shelter, relief goods

500 flood survivors from Ahmadiya community denied shelter, relief goods

The government and local clerics refused to shelter around 500 flood-affected families belonging to the Ahmadiya community in South Punjab’s relief camps. Not only that, the government also did not send relief goods to the flood-hit areas belonging to the Ahmadiya community, The Express Tribune has learnt during a visit to the devastated Punjab districts of Muzaffargarh, Dera Ghazi Khan and Rajanpur.

For its part, the government claims that all relief goods are being distributed among survivors without discrimination. And that all survivors have been sheltered in relief camps without distinction. The flood-devastated families from the Ahmadiya community have strongly criticised the government’s “discriminatory attitude” even at a time when the entire country is reeling from the ravages of the worst flooding in living memory.

Of the 500 Ahmadi families, 350 belong to DG Khan, 60 to Muzaffargarh and 65 to Rajanpur district. According to Ahmadiya community leaders, over 2,500 members of their community have been displaced and are now living with their relatives while some of them have left for Rabwah, the community’s headquarters.

Aziz Ahmad Khan, a local leader of flood victims from the Ahmadiya community in DG Khan, told The Express Tribune that all members of his family have complained of discrimination in DG Khan. He said 200 families from Basti Rindan and Basti Sohrani, 60 from Chah Ismaeel Wala, three from Rakh Mor Jangi, 18 from Ghazi Ghat and 12 from  Jhakar Imam Shah of Ahmadpur. Khan alleged that 200 families, who have been displaced from Basti Rindan and Basti Sohrani by flooding, took shelter in a state-run school at Jhok Utra but within days the local administration forced them to leave the school. He said the local administration later told them that people from the surrounding areas did not want the Ahmadis in the relief camp. And that the administration could not allow them to stay at the camp as it could create a law and order situation.

“So we left our cattle and other belongings in the area and took refuge in the homes of our community members on higher grounds,” he said, adding that some of them even migrated to Chanabnagar.

Muhammad Iqbal Sohrani, a member of the Ahmadiya community told The Express Tribune that around 40 Ahmadi families who took shelter in a state-run school at Jhakar Imam Shah near Sumandri, some 40 kilometres from DG Khan, have not received any relief either from philanthropists or from the government. He alleged that relief packages were being distributed through local lawmakers who have been told by the district administration that the Ahmadis are not eligible for any support.

Saleem Chandia, another Ahmadiya community member, said that he along with 40 other community members rented a house but after two days their landlord was forced by local clerics to evict them. Chandia said they were offered help by their own community members after wandering for several days in search of shelter.

Mansoor Ahmad, a resident of Muzaffargarh, told The Express Tribune that over 800 members of the Ahmadiya community were displaced from Bait Nasirabad, Masroornagar, Hussainwala and Shahjamal. At least 100 members of the community, from Hussainwala and Masroorabad, were trapped at Shahjamal. He claimed that they had asked the district police officer (DPO) and the district coordination officer (DCO) to provide them a boat or to rescue the trapped people but they did not take notice.

Ahmad claimed that the trapped Ahmadis were rescued by their fellows on a broken boat. He said local clerics have issued an edict that the Ahmadis should not be provided help.

Naseem Ahmad, from Rajanpur, told The Express Tribune that their 500 community members from the areas of Basti Lashari, Basti Allahdad Dareeshak and from Basti Azizabad were displaced. Their houses were washed away and the government and local clerics ignored them. He said that they were not allowed to stay in state-run schools or in camps, therefore the majority of them were living on the rooftops of their inundated houses.

“The Ahmadiya community itself rescued trapped people and delivered relief to them,” community spokesperson Saleem-ul-Din told The Express Tribune by phone.

He said that the community did not want any relief package from the government for its members. However, the government should protect the property and livestock of the Ahmadis.

Hassan Iqbal, Commissioner DG Khan, told The Express Tribune that he would check the situation. He asked the Ahmadis to directly approach him if they face discrimination anywhere in the district. However, DCO Muzaffargarh Farasat Iqbal said that the Ahmadis have not contacted him.

Published in The Express Tribune, August 18th, 2010.

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Reader Comments (193)

  • Hassan
    Aug 18, 2010 - 10:38AM

    if the author of the article says “The government and local clerics refused to shelter”. When and who is the individual representing the government or local clerics that categorically refused? I did not read this in the article. Since the beginning of Tribune, I have found it a very good source for news considering how quick and the professional approach towards good journalism. If the purpose of stating the word “refuse” is to grab attention, you are doing more harm to your news organisation’s credibility than good journalism.Recommend

  • shy
    Aug 18, 2010 - 12:04PM

    Are ahmadies are not citizens of Pakistan?Recommend

  • Asiya
    Aug 18, 2010 - 12:33PM

    good story…we are a shameless nation indeedRecommend

  • NoNameInGame
    Aug 18, 2010 - 1:36PM

    and than we wonder why this devastating flood Recommend

  • Rizwan Ahmad
    Aug 18, 2010 - 2:13PM

    Read again, its says “a local leader of flood victims from the Ahmadiya community in DG Khan, told The Express Tribune….”

    An Ahmadi religion leader told this story and Express Tribune posted without verification. By the way do you people know that Qadyani leaders also claim that there are over 170 million qadyanis in all over the world? Do not go after claims, go for the facts.Recommend

  • Anwar Ahmad
    Aug 18, 2010 - 2:16PM

    Time and again, attitude of Government, judiciary and society, led by extremist clergy, has proved that Ahmadis are stepchildren of state. They have been denied every right from religion to life yet they stick to loving Pakistan. This should not be surprising for anyone. Absence of Government agencies from relief work has provided excellent opportunity for extremist/terrorist organizations like JuD (incarnation of LeT) to start poisoning the masses, recruit Jihadis and distribute their propaganda material (otherwise banned) along with relief goods. MNA’s, MPA’s of South Punjab are well known for having close ties with Jihadi organizations and have been instrumental in creating chaos and getting false cases registered against Ahmadis living in Leyyah, D.G.Khan, Rajanpur, Muzzaffargarh and surrounding areas. What else can be expected from them?

    At this time of worst disaster in Pakistan’s history, we have not forgotten to treat our minorities unjustly and show no mercy to them; then we beg for mercy from our Creator.Recommend

  • Sakina
    Aug 18, 2010 - 2:22PM

    Now this makes me sick!! :@ what is the government doing? promoting hatred.. and they talk about fighting terrorism :/ To hell with such people!! :@Recommend

  • Umer Farooq
    Aug 18, 2010 - 2:34PM

    One of the reason Pakistan in this state today. Recommend

  • Aug 18, 2010 - 2:36PM

    Utterly shameless and despicable. The government and the clerics have not learnt their lesson. These people need to study the biography of the Holy Prophet(saw) in more detail and follow it. Recommend

  • Aug 18, 2010 - 2:49PM

    “local clerics have issued an edict that the Ahmadis should not be provided help.”

    Remember, it is always Satan who stands on the straight path and diverts people to go into other directions. When will the people of Pakistan wake up???Recommend

  • Aug 18, 2010 - 2:49PM

    Previous comment was not from gilgit, but from America.Recommend

  • Zainab Ali
    Aug 18, 2010 - 3:16PM

    500 families of Ahmedia community are not being given any help, either from the government or from other philanthropists. This is the height of absurdity; however an enquiry into this matter would reveal the real facts. No one should discriminate in these times of need, but the growing extremist ideologies are perhaps the real contributing factors in making people go against their own fellows. Recommend

  • Sabahat
    Aug 18, 2010 - 3:46PM

    and then they wonder that why they should do Tubha and Astakfar on this azab?? this is the sole reason!! Pakistanis are the most racist and discriminating nation of the world!!!

    Allah reham kare Pakistan peh/… aur inn ko hadayat deh! Ameen!Recommend

  • Humanitarian
    Aug 18, 2010 - 3:47PM

    Ahmadis all over the world are raising money and collecting tents and other amenities to help alleviate the hardships that the flood victims are suffering. The aid will not go to just the Ahmadis but to the whole population. Ahmadis do not discriminate against those in need, unlike the holy clerics and their loyal government officials.Recommend

  • Shabir
    Aug 18, 2010 - 3:55PM

    When punishment from God descends, one should ask why? Is it perhaps because we are denying basic human rights to some of our citizens who, if they had been in the time of the Holy Prophet Muhammad salAllahoalaihiwasallam, would have been given full protection and succour by him and his sahaba.Recommend

  • Bin Ismail
    Aug 18, 2010 - 4:05PM

    How low can people stoop? According to this news piece, the clerics and authorities are in this atrocity together. All I say is that they should fear the day that God decides to pay them back in the same coin and they find themselves aliens in their own land.Recommend

  • Anwar Ahmad
    Aug 18, 2010 - 4:19PM

    @Rizwan Ahmad

    Read the first paragraph again. “The Express Tribune has learnt **during a visit** to the devastated Punjab districts of Muzaffargarh, Dera Ghazi Khan and Rajanpur.” The story stands verified or is it that you are questioning repute of Express Tribune? Probably you should read Urdu papers only who tell you only *all pious Muslim and Qadiani, Yahood-o-Hanood conspiracy theories*.Recommend

  • iqbal
    Aug 18, 2010 - 5:05PM

    they are welcoming another disaster!Recommend

  • europa
    Aug 18, 2010 - 5:09PM

    @ Rizwan Ahmed – is that all you took from this article? I mean who cares what their claims are about their population numbers, fact is that Pakistanis are trying to decimate their numbers in Pakistan. Recommend

  • Shabir
    Aug 18, 2010 - 6:02PM

    It reminds of the time of Pharoh and his people. Calamaties struck them 9 times because of their trangressions, and still they could not see it. They rejected the warnings of a God fearing prophet of Allah and would not mend their ways. Now, we indeed are behaving not one bit disimilarly. We simply dont realise that we are not practising or upholding the values of Islam of 1400 years ago. Why wouldnt calamaties befall upon us and try to warn us to mend our ways before Armageddon finally becomes the solution??Recommend

  • Aug 18, 2010 - 6:49PM

    thanks to the Law in 1984,,,,,, The result of which is very obvious today……………..But a law was passed on wine too… no one listedned to that while opening a wine shop?Recommend

  • Fizza imam
    Aug 18, 2010 - 7:06PM

    Basically everyone in Pakistan is complaining about government not being there for them, and not helping them with basic needs such as shelter, food, and medicine. They have been complaining in some areas that they get provided with rotten and old bread by the government, which they can not even eat, in some areas they complain that they get treated like animals, and some complain that there is no one to look after them. So is every sect going to complain that we are not being treated just and that they are being discriminated? Anyhow, if this really is happening to the Ahmedis, it is indeed a shame, because right now Pakistanis need help regardless of their national or religious identities.Recommend

  • Hibba
    Aug 18, 2010 - 7:22PM

    To all those that agree with this despicable behavior, you need help right along with those discriminating. As an Ahmadi i have sent money AND goods over to Pakistan. And many other Ahmadis i know have done the same. Are we asking that only Ahmadis be given the money/goods. no we are not. To all those that agree to this rediculous behavior, you should feel ashamed. and you will, for being so inhumane. It brings tears to my eyes to read about the Ahmadis being helped by other Ahmadis on broken boats when there are so many resources available. Pakistan has started its demise.Recommend

  • Harpreet
    Aug 18, 2010 - 7:35PM

    Was pained to read the news..I am from India but our heart reaches out to everyone in distress..I thought Indian politicians were the most stone hearted but Pakistani leaders take the cake..reading about your President jaunting away in Europe at the time of national crises..Recommend

  • merk
    Aug 18, 2010 - 7:43PM

    At least stop maligning this country now. Enough damage has been done to the aid-efforts for this poor country already by such “journalism” that people around the world have stopped to even think about helping the 20 million affectees of the devastating floods. Responsible and positive journalism is the need of the hour and not unfounded blabbering for cheap publicity.Recommend

  • A.G.B.
    Aug 18, 2010 - 8:20PM

    This is DISGUSTING. 500 families or 1, how dare they discriminate against citizens of the country. I am ashamed to be Pakistani. Recommend

  • midnight's child
    Aug 18, 2010 - 8:56PM

    This is appalling, but not surprising. Pakistan has been dragged this slippery slope vis a vis Ahmadis for most of her existance, These attitudes makes a total mockery of the values of the Founder of the country, and many of those who heeded his call. Let us not forget that many people in what comprises Pakistan today never shared the Quaid’s view of what compromised a secular, puralistic, free thinking state, and that most of his support came from the Muslims of Bengal and Central India and what was known as the United Provimces. The majority of those from the four provinces of modern Pakistan were extremely lackadaisical in their support of Jinnah’s Muslim League and its ideals.Recommend

  • Fauzan Naeem
    Aug 18, 2010 - 9:04PM

    “As you sow, so shall you reap”
    The reason for our misery
    This is just one story, There are many others, and many have been or will be, silenced Recommend

  • Amaar
    Aug 18, 2010 - 9:50PM

    No wonder there is little sympathy for Pakistani government and these Mullahs abroad…
    and no wonder God continues to punish the people for these sins.Recommend

  • Bushra Malik
    Aug 18, 2010 - 9:57PM

    It is a huge shame that brother Rizwan would not save a soul until a verification method was applied. Recommend

  • Syed
    Aug 18, 2010 - 10:00PM

    Utterly outrageous and callous! While the whole country is in mourning and misery these people can only discriminate.
    They have not learnt anything from this disaster. If they continue to behave like this then I am afraid there will be further Divine punishment.Recommend

  • Bangash
    Aug 18, 2010 - 10:17PM

    This is exactly the reason God sends floods to Pakistan to punish them for thier corruption, cruelty and bigotry. Recommend

  • halehma naseer
    Aug 18, 2010 - 10:29PM

    In the name of Allah , The Gracious, The Merciful….
    Have the people of Pakistan suffered enough at the hands of the Taliban, mullahs, local officials or whatever you want to call them? The Ahmadi Muslim Community consists of human beings. The inhumane treatment is bringing retribution to this country. This level of barbarism defies Allah’s natural laws of all levels of compassion….Black OrchidRecommend

  • Farhat
    Aug 18, 2010 - 10:59PM

    Although the Ahmadis will be helped by their community, a community that is helping all Pakistanis in this time of need. My heart really breaks for the people of Pakistan who will suffer calamity after calamity but will not change their ways of discrimination,hate,lies,deception… Abhi bhi khuda se nahi darte????Recommend

  • Ronald
    Aug 18, 2010 - 11:02PM

    I fail to understand how people can post comments on here somehow blaming the Ahmadi Muslims. It seems many people’s conditioning and hatred run very deep – so deep that they cannot accept the clearly DOCUMENTED facts that Ahmadis are brutally persecuted – even their existence is legislated against in Pakistan.

    One can only surmise that Pakistan’s days are numbered if they don’t quickly get their act together.Recommend

  • Arshad Rashedi
    Aug 18, 2010 - 11:24PM

    These misguided peopele need to study the life of the Prophet, Mohammad S.A.W. to see how he treated people who did not agree with him. The Prophet, S.A.W., would cary the bags of an old Jewish Lady just to be helpful. In Pakistan, the so called leaders in a so called Islamic Nation who promote themselves as guardian of Islam, the religion that Mohammad S.A.W. founded, are so cruel. It is hard to find the words to discribe the attrocities they committ against Ahmadies. For the sake of themselves and their generations, they should change their ways and follow the example of the Prophet S.A.W. in order to avert any further punishment from Allah, subhantala.Recommend

  • Sanaa Zubairi
    Aug 18, 2010 - 11:40PM

    Trust this nation. Please, keep proving that you’re animals and not human beings!Recommend

  • Basheer
    Aug 18, 2010 - 11:43PM

    Can you please verify and tell us it is all trye what you are saying. I don’t believe youRecommend

  • mehreen
    Aug 18, 2010 - 11:51PM

    wait for another disaster ppl!!y making ALLAH more angry???Recommend

  • Rizwan
    Aug 19, 2010 - 12:04AM

    I am utterly disappointed at the twisted and mal-intentioned reporting in this article. At a time when the entire country is effected in one way or another, you are creating controversies. Obviously the intent was not to highlight a problem, it was to create disharmony. There are still thousands of people that are without aid and are desperate for food and shelter. Nobody ever pointed out if they were Muslims, Ahmedis, Christians or hindus. The entire nation is suffering and you have the guts to spread disharmony from the comfort of your airconditioned studies! A thoroughly disappointing article at a time when we are searching for every straw that may unite us! Sad!Recommend

  • Wahab riaz
    Aug 19, 2010 - 12:10AM

    Dude this is true Recommend

  • Sonia
    Aug 19, 2010 - 12:14AM


  • Abu Omar
    Aug 19, 2010 - 12:54AM

    A question?
    Do Pakistanis read the Holy Quran? If not they should read.
    Mullas: If you read the Holy Quran, that will not go beyond your throat (Holy Prophet Sallaho alaihe wasallam’s words for latter day’s Mullahs). So they should not be blamed.Recommend

  • Aug 19, 2010 - 1:00AM

    As someone who has publicly debated against Ahmadi leaders in favor of traditional Islam, I find these types of discriminatory acts disgusting and abhorring. Yes, their religion is false, but are they not human beings? Do they not deserve shelter, food and assistance?

    Even if you are against their misguided religion, realize that you are only garnering sympathy for them, while strengthening their convictions that all Muslim authorities are “jahil mullahs”.

    We are working hard here in the US with Islamic Relief for the flood victims. I support Humanity First, their humanitarian organization. We must all come together to aid whoever was hit by this flood, be they Muslim or Ahmadi.Recommend

  • MMA
    Aug 19, 2010 - 1:01AM

    There is definaely some truth to this story. It is well known Ahmadies are discriminated against in Pakistan. But so are the poor and destitute of Pakistan. No one gives a damn about them except for noble heart NGO’s. Even in Rabwah, where poverty is common, the general society of common Ahmadies generally treats them with discrimination. So I would say, relatively speaking Ahmadies do better than other Pakistani, but still way off when compared to western christian societies (relatively speak please no need to argue here).Recommend

  • Sanaullah Mir
    Aug 19, 2010 - 1:04AM

    This again is a repeat of what happened with he followers of the Holy Prophet Muhammed saw. Clearly 72 sects are grouping together and going against the 73rd as the Holy Prophet saw had prophecised 1400 years ago. Ahmadis globally will continue to support all the flood victims regardless of religious background. Recommend

  • Noor
    Aug 19, 2010 - 1:21AM

    I am shocked but sadly not surprised. How long will the Pakistani government and others continue to misrepresent and neglect what is a peace loving community. Ahmadi Muslims all over the world are donating money to buy food a resources for those in need, without prejudice. I hope and pray for the safety and well being of all those effected by this tragedy and also that the Pakistani government wakes up to its responsibility and stops the discrimination of Ahmadi Muslims.Recommend

  • Masroor
    Aug 19, 2010 - 1:42AM

    This discrimination act of these uneducated people is leading the countries reputation towards ground.
    May god help them to serve humanity and understand each other well.Recommend

  • Erum Malik
    Aug 19, 2010 - 1:59AM

    we stoop so low once again , shame on us ! are Ahmadis not human? God is punishing us …. for sure ! Recommend

  • XYZ
    Aug 19, 2010 - 2:01AM

    Do not forget what happened on May 28th, 2010 in Lahore. Innocent blood was spilled in the name of religion. People were massacred for simply being Ahamdi.

    The Ahmadies had asked for help from the local police to stop this madness, but did they help???? NO! They took their sweet time in responding. I wonder if their response would have been the same if it was a Sunni mosque (some how I doubt it).

    AND today when people of Pakistan are asking for help with the flood, the internation community is shying away from it. WHY? Maybe its because they realize that most of the aid will never reach the people who need it. The majority of it will pocketed by the greedy politicians and religious clerics who have made religion a business.

    It is sad that because of the actions of a few ignorant individuals, millions are being made to suffer.

    I urge everyone reading this. Please donate and help the Pakistani people and pray for their well being.Recommend

  • Manahil
    Aug 19, 2010 - 2:35AM

    In all this devastation, not forgetting to make lives more miserable and further tarnishig our country’s image of how efficiently and responsibly are we dealing with the floods; Is it neccessary?
    Why is it so hard to start living as sane humans, for once.Recommend

    Aug 19, 2010 - 2:45AM

    LOVE 4 ALL HATRED 4 NONERecommend

  • Sajid
    Aug 19, 2010 - 3:08AM

    By not treating all the citizens of Pakistan equally even in this terrible moment, the Pakistani Government (who call themselves Muslims) have gone against the teachings of the Holy Quran. Holy prophet Mohammed (pbuh). His companions and Qaidiasam. Ponder over their teachings and you’ll realise it yourself.Recommend

  • nchaud
    Aug 19, 2010 - 3:23AM

    Assalamo Alaikum
    This is indeed a very sad state of affairs – having bowed to the clerics for years, hasn’t the government learnt it’s lessons and realized succumbing to their demands isn’t working. In every sphere, our dear Pakistan is crumbling. In the current situation, instead of focusing on relief efforts, they’re wasting precious time and energy disseminating discrimination instructions to officials and actively not sheltering everyone.
    Rasulullah (SAW) was, it seems, indeed right when he said discriminating has destroyed many an entire society.
    The Pakistani Ahmadis are in my heartfelt prayers – be steadfastness my brothers, may Allah reward you without measure. Ameen.Recommend

  • sumsuni
    Aug 19, 2010 - 3:35AM

    utterly disgusting behavior by the pakistani government. Recommend

  • Aug 19, 2010 - 3:53AM

    There is not truth to it.This is a big joke to increase clicks on this page.Recommend

  • Imran
    Aug 19, 2010 - 4:00AM

    This is an article devoid of any facts. The pic given in the beginning is from Charsadda where the people have shifted to the motorway to avoid flood waters. The one portrayed as unsheltered Ahmadis r actually Pashtoon boys who try to get the attention of passeby motorists for help. It is not good journalism at all.Recommend

  • aosaf
    Aug 19, 2010 - 4:21AM

    peace be on you.
    This is quite an un-islamic pactice by an islamic country. did the Holy Prophet refuse to help and body in need? for course not.
    in all corners of the earth ahmadi muslims are contributing to Pakistanis regardless of any difference. this is the a characteristic of a true muslim.
    may Allah guide the rulers of Pakistan.Recommend

  • Saadia
    Aug 19, 2010 - 4:24AM

    This is absolutely horrible. The government of Pakistan AND the people of Pakistan need to wake up. Recommend

  • Nadim
    Aug 19, 2010 - 4:29AM

    This is not surprising at all. It clearly shows how Ahmadis are being discriminated against not only by religious leaders but also by the government. On the other hand Ahmadis are raising funds and sending volunteers to help victims of flood. Their help is not limited to Ahmadis only, they are helping everyone without any discrimination.
    But our case is in the court of Allah the mighty. Inshallah Allah will protect us and make us prosper.Recommend

  • Aug 19, 2010 - 4:44AM

    Its very very sad, first we are human then we got our own faith, which we got from our fathers. we have no right to condemn others faith, just do it your deeds, you will get the reward or punishment on the day of judgment. I believe even a guy pray 5 times a day, does any one guarantee that he will go jannah? no my dear no one can guarantee you, because the niyyat of the person is the key? and Allah knows the reality. Please just do your deeds let Allah decide the final judgment. Do not hate any human because of his faith. that’s wrong!!!Recommend

  • Usama Riaz
    Aug 19, 2010 - 4:51AM

    What a contrast to the non-discriminatory humanitarian efforts Ahmadis here in London and all over the world are making. If anyone is in any doubt, check the record of the help provided by the Ahmadiyya Jama’at in the 2005 earthquake through its charity. Completely non-discriminatory and the trend is the same again this time. We are collecting tents and money here to send to our brothers and sisters (whether Ahmadi or not) but Ahmadis are being treated as Non-Citizens yet again! How Ironic!Recommend

  • Amir
    Aug 19, 2010 - 5:20AM

    Why Pakistani people don’t understand they are getting this flood?
    Because of 5/28 Lahore Attack on Ahmadiyya Masjids.
    And still they are doing the same.
    Allah will take care of these Ahmadies.Recommend

  • nadia shahid khan
    Aug 19, 2010 - 5:50AM

    this is totally shameless, this all are human being , government should not do like that…Recommend

  • Gul
    Aug 19, 2010 - 5:53AM

    Utterly ashamed to be Pakistani!!!!!!Recommend

  • omar sharif
    Aug 19, 2010 - 6:27AM

    Our country is in a state of Hell….. and all they care about is discrimination…. such a sorry state for our country …. Quaid and all those who made this country would be ashamed and regretting why they struggled so hard for the making of Pakistan..which is no longer PAK rather unclean …with mulaization and corruption… wish i was’nt born a Pakistani….Recommend

  • Amjad
    Aug 19, 2010 - 6:39AM

    How any one can ask about the faith of someone before helping? What religion got to do when you are saving lives. No matter what there religion or faith is they all need help. This is definitely not the time to questions any ones beliefs & faith. Who are these clerics? These are just ignorent with beard & pagris. Do not call them clerics because of their appearence.Recommend

  • Haseeb Ahmad
    Aug 19, 2010 - 6:42AM

    I pray that the corrupted clerics of Pakistan meet their doom one day. The supposed righteous ones in the eyes of many Pakistanis are in fact the worst creatures under the canopy of Heaven. May Allah smite them with humiliation in this life and the life hereafter. Ameen. Summa ameen.Recommend

  • John Donne
    Aug 19, 2010 - 7:17AM

    As with Ahmadies so with others in the past. Go back some 40 years ago, and know what ‘Pakis’ did to their own people, of the then East Pakistan. And therefore lost more than half of Quied’e Azam’s Pakistan. In my local mosque at Pindi, the Imam in his khutba had prayed to Allah to let our armed forces ‘succeed’ in East Pakistan. Poor men in arms, manipulated by our representative Government functionaries, by conniving with Yahya khan, the infamous debauch, to send our jawans on mission impossible. This in order to defame the fair name of our armed forces, the only entity in this country which saves this country from ruin, time and again, making the supreme sacrifice of life. And in return earns abuses by the thankless civil ‘Rahbars’ and the people at large. How wonderful we are? Aren’t we the envy of the world? Who is there to beat us in hypocrisy? I believe the Hindi saying,” Muh par Ram,Ram, baghal mey churi”, suits our description most. I lived over 30 years abroad. why? I suffered self-exile rather than living in my homeland. Why? I experienced many nationalities, both of the East and the West, but my hat off to ‘Pakis’. I know what you are thinking. Who is this guy/chap, a madcap? He is “L’enfant terrible”, who had shouted from rooftop, “The king has no clothes”. That’s what he is. A mortal like others. But he refuses to identify himself with others. He calls himself a human being, just plain human being. But that’s a tall claim indeed. According to Asadullah Khan Ghalib, “Admi ko bhi ma’assar nahin insan hona”. Recommend

  • Gohar H Qureshi
    Aug 19, 2010 - 7:18AM

    May Allah have mercy on Pakistan, and its officials.
    1st right of a human on any human is “Huqooq-ul-Ibaad”, if that right is violated, the whole mankind is killed.Recommend

  • hameed
    Aug 19, 2010 - 7:31AM

    I dont understand, Ahmadi or not Ahmadi everybody should be given
    Equal amount of help in this situation, remember PAKISTAN
    you can not win a game without the team effort,

    I also dont understand how Mr zardari can
    sit in london at a hotel price of £3000 a night when
    his own brothers and sisters are dying out their


  • John Donne
    Aug 19, 2010 - 7:34AM

    Pl notify me of the followup comments. ThanksRecommend

  • shameem and aesha
    Aug 19, 2010 - 7:57AM

    The people who are left alone, are not alone in reality,god is with them and he is the most merciful so isn’t he enought for the ones who are in pain? But, remember god will ask them one day what was the unforgivable mistake of this child who was left in the rain with an empty stomach while you were eating in a safe place….Recommend

  • Hashim
    Aug 19, 2010 - 8:11AM

    When people try to misrepresent GOD, the retaliation from the all mighty is very swift. Bhutto was the one who got this ball rolling about these poor God fearing Pakistani citizens. Dont worry about the life here after, because God will punish you here & now. Look at what he has done to the Bhutto family !! If you are a true muslim, you will treat all of Gods creation with love & respect.Recommend

  • Faez Ahmed
    Aug 19, 2010 - 8:49AM

    As one of the Directors of Humanity First, an International NGO founded by the Ahmadiyya Community, i could not understand how a people and its government can stoop so low. No wonder God says that those people are deaf dumb and blind, and indeed on their hearts is a seal…. for they can no longer see right from wrong. We in Humanity First though will continue to support all humans, irrespective of creed colour or race, and despite the fact that the treatment of Ahmadis in Pakistan is shocking. Non Ahmadi Pakistanis should be ashamed of themselves.Recommend

  • hurt
    Aug 19, 2010 - 8:56AM

    It is disgusting how in such desperate times discrimination still takes place. These floods are a sign from God that our country needs to mend its ways and stop following the path of hatred because that is not what the Holy Prophet or anyone else taught us. There is reason why they took place only in Pakistan and not anywhere else. God is “Rehman” and “Rahim” and promotes the path of love and equality and so everyone should be treated as an innocent individual who has suffered a huge natural disaster in need and this disgusting kind of discrimination should not take place. Recommend

  • Junaid
    Aug 19, 2010 - 9:20AM

    The author has done nothing good for either Pakistan or the Ahmadiya Community. Rather than just pointing out in this hour of crisis, one should step ahead and help. Recommend

  • Hasan
    Aug 19, 2010 - 10:01AM

    While Ahmadis are being discriminated against, they are helping out in flood relief;

    > A Wimbledon based charity is working
    > “round the clock” to bring relief to
    > disaster-hit Pakistan.
    > The head of Humanity First described
    > the flood that devestated the country
    > earlier this month as “worse than
    > anyone back home could imagine”, and
    > urged Britons to support its efforts
    > to help the survivors.
    > The Deer Park Road charity has sent
    > supplies to the country including
    > buckets, sheets, shoes and more than
    > 500 tents. It has also joined with
    > Rotary Club-backed charity
    > Worldwaterworks to hand out sanitation
    > equipment, and plans to deliver food
    > parcels in some of the worst affected
    > areas for the next three months.
    > A spokesman for the organisation said
    > its aid workers who were already based
    > in Pakistan before the tragedy struck
    > had been sent to respond to the crisis
    > on the ground – but extra volunteers
    > had been drafted in to help at the
    > Wimbledon headquarters. Humanity First
    > doctors have also set up three medical
    > camps in the country.


  • salman
    Aug 19, 2010 - 10:24AM

    No wonder why pakistan is suffering. the government is corrupt and all too often does what the Mullah tells them.

    A country where fundamental human rights are taken away from Ahmadi Muslims…Shame on you Mullah of Pakistan and people who follow them!!Recommend

  • shahina
    Aug 19, 2010 - 10:28AM

    From thr Holy Quran

    And when We intend to destroy a township, We address Our commandment to its rebellious people, but they transgress therein;so the sentence of punishment becomes due against it, and We destroy it with utter destruction.(17:17)
    Oh Muslims of today read Astaghfaar and seek guidance from God alone who is the All knowing and All powerful He will surely show u the right path !!!Recommend

  • meena
    Aug 19, 2010 - 11:22AM

    An appeal to all Pakistanis.please don not sit at home and pass judgements abt the govt or ngos.Media has started misery marketing which can only provide them with revenue but ppl should instead of making other ppl scared go there by themselves if they can and then decide wat the govt is doing.ive been to a few affected places…they were full of Pak Govt, UNHCR and Red Cresents tents.instead of wasting time on putting President Zardaris funny pictures and pathetic articles.plz spend time on the articles whch can create awareness of whch water to use etc to the affected ppl.there are statistically 5 lack pregnant women…plz spend time on trying to help them…find me ideas if u cant go…ill be going till i can…but kindly dont encourage the wrong things happening. thank u


  • hannan
    Aug 19, 2010 - 11:22AM

    salam i’m ahmadi muslim and i love PAKISTAN…. LOVE FOR ALL HATED FOR NONERecommend

  • sara
    Aug 19, 2010 - 11:37AM

    And the nation wonders, why there is so much pain in Pakistan. The day humans are valued, maybe then God will have mercy on this nation.Recommend

  • sac
    Aug 19, 2010 - 11:45AM

    Disgusting!!!!when will we wake up from the deep slumber n stop playing God!Recommend

  • Yousaf
    Aug 19, 2010 - 12:23PM

    This is not what Islam have taught us.. This is not what Islamic History says..This is not what happend 1400 years before!! Recommend

  • Bushra Hassan
    Aug 19, 2010 - 12:55PM

    Most of Pakistanis affected by floods are without shelter or food. There are not enough spaces in mosques and schools to accomodate everyone. This is not a religious issue and should not be turned into one. Express Tribune should instead write about the relief efforts undertaken by volunteers or lack of international aid, or lack of compassion for Pakistani poor as compared to other countries… this is not a report worthy of the paperRecommend

  • Atif Malik
    Aug 19, 2010 - 1:08PM

    Shameful. Ahmadi muslims all over the world are donating to this cause, without discrimination, and yet we now learn our money will definitely not help any of our brothers or sisters. Humanity First, is an indepedent humanitarian organisation Ahmadis set up as a natural disaster recovery charity to aid ALL humans regardless of religion, race, politics. My brother who is a surgeon led one of their teams in the Pakistan earthquake a few years ago, and the charity is on the ground now, helping EVERYONE. At the same time, our opponents not only continue their deplorable and unexcusable discrimination against us, but are also still finding time to ruthlessly murder Ahmadis (Dr Najam al-Hasan, shot dead by assailants in Karachi this week as he left his clinic) – you’d think even the twisted individual that thinks he’s killing in the name of Allah, at this time would want to help 14-20 million fellow muslims, but I guess this proves they are not even extremists, just jahil.Recommend

  • M M
    Aug 19, 2010 - 1:25PM

    Even in a humanitarian crisis discrimination is still rife with these Mullahs! Indeed such was the condition of the Holy Prophet (saw) and his followers when they were boycotted against.
    We brought Qaid-e-Azam back to fight for the cause of Pakistan, we send relief for ALL afflicted by disaster, we rely solely on our Creator.Recommend

  • H Rehman
    Aug 19, 2010 - 1:46PM

    This dispicable behaviour of Pakistani government against the flood victims who are its own citizens must be brought to the focus of the international community who are providing so much aid for the flood victims. I wish and pray that these so called Muslims in Pakistan gain at least the basic knowledge about the life and conduct of our beloved prophet Mohammad peace and blessings of Allah be upon him. Recommend

  • Adeel Shah
    Aug 19, 2010 - 1:47PM

    Another example of discrimination faced by Ahmadi Muslims in Pakistan. They are treated not just as non-Muslims, but as non citizens. This can be viewed as quite ironic considering the contributions made by Ahmadis both in creation and maintenance of Pakistan.

    Pakistan has lost its sense of friendship and brotherhood, on one hand they preach “Killing is a very bad sin” and on the other hand they say “Kill an Ahmaddi and you shall devote upon to heaven,” What sense is this?Recommend

  • Aug 19, 2010 - 1:48PM

    Pakistan proves once again that Ahmadis are persona non grata. They are Pakistanis for God’s sake. And if the Holy Qur’an teaches discrimination of religion,caste or creed in helping others in need, then please let me know also. I want to know what kind of Islam these mullahs and their cronies are following. This indeed is not the Islam of my beloved Prophet (peace be upon him). Give me one example, where the Holy Prophet (pbuh) had refused help of another person!
    This is a mockery of Islam. The Ahmadis were first declared outside the pale of Islam, now they are being treated as if they are not even human beings. Shame on all those who think this way. No wonder why Pakistan is in this state. Recommend

  • Zainab Ahmad
    Aug 19, 2010 - 2:01PM

    @RIZWAN and others who wonder about these ahmadis or any other caste or religious groups we discriminate against…you have no idea how much prejudice and provincialism exists in our country. even at times of trouble these hate-mongers will find excuses to discriminate. i refuse to believe that the masses indulge in this, i dont know part of me wanted to believe we as a people are better than that…but i dont know maybe my faith is wrong.
    i googled the ahmadi community and found their NGO Humanity first that has installed water filtration plants in punjab and installed relief camps and supplies or victims…not ahmadi vitims but ALL victims o the flood and cyclone phet.
    now what does that tell you?

    Humanity First Pakistan Working With NCHD; Delivering Supplies

  • Shani
    Aug 19, 2010 - 2:04PM

    Welcome to the dark ages.Recommend

  • yasser
    Aug 19, 2010 - 2:19PM

    This kind of despicable behaviour would not be tolerated in any other country of the world, and further still for it to condoned by certain factions of the population speaks volumes for the state this country finds itself currently in.

    Rest assured the Ahmadiyya community will continue to do its utmost to help the Pakistani’s starting with raising tens of thousands of pounds for the plight of ALL victims; be they ahmadi’s or not, just as they did when the Kashmir earthquake struck.

    Love for All, Hatred for None is their motto- the authorities would do well to take heed and follow their example.Recommend

  • JJ
    Aug 19, 2010 - 2:26PM

    Not unexpected to read this here but I am disappointed by ET’s standard of reporting. Activist journalism can be great but not in the absence of facts. Let’s see some details that can be verified. Recommend

  • Ahmad Khan
    Aug 19, 2010 - 2:42PM

    I am engaged in the Flood Relief through various NGOs. I have so far not come across any discrimination on the basis of religion,sect,color,ethenicity, or any other reason in the flood affected areas of Punjab, Sindh or the Khyber Pakhtonkhwa Province. The reflections in the news item is yet another instrument to make a case for immigration to North American and/oe European countries. This must be ignored being an utter mis-statement. Recommend

  • Mansoor Baig
    Aug 19, 2010 - 2:48PM

    It hurts to read something like this.

    No Respect, Honour, Dignity and Unity can be seem amongst the Pakistani goverment or so called Pakistani Mullahs who can only Spread haterism instead to teaching the true meaning and purpose of Islam. With regards to this article i am appauled to read how discrimination in Pakistan (especially against Ahmadi’s is at it’s peak). One thing everybody seems to forget is that Allah is still watching…Everyone is answerable on the day of Judgement.


  • Abhaya Sharma
    Aug 19, 2010 - 3:18PM

    I am not supposed to comment on interanl reportings.. yet being a human first and anything else later.. I observe 1 or 2 points that I feel would not be treated as something against the jornalist or the governemtn..

    First and foremost.. ity is the duty of media to highlight or express concern on issues of discriminations at such horrid times as have been created by the flood situaton in the country.. yet I would say that it could be treated little more fairly.. it could be shown as the lapse rather as a mistake.. in such vast tragic conditions all the workers could possibly not remain aloof to their socio-political beleifs.. not exactly a case of disharmony..

    Government should take immediate steps to quell any such feelings that some sort of discriminations were in place.. if they were.. it is not good.. anything and everything can be overcome by showimg immediate amendments to the situation..

    In the hour of crisis of Pakistan I wish every member of every clan, caste or creed gets the full support of the governement and social agencies.. it (flood situation) could help build Pakistan into a gretaer nation without segregating the relief actions on the basis of caste/creed or any other norms..

    Help Pakistan with all means to fight out the tragic flood siyuation that has left millions homeless and many thousands dead.. Allah be kind on your subjects…

    Abhaya Sharma Mumbai Recommend

  • Adil Zafar
    Aug 19, 2010 - 3:21PM

    I am appalled by the Lack of Humanity shown by the so called Leaders of our Nation.
    There are further reports thats Members of Parliament and Senators have sought to protect themselves first rather than serve the very people who elected them.
    Pakistan has steadly sunk into an Abyss of hatred, greed, discrimination and mistrust.Recommend

  • Lucky
    Aug 19, 2010 - 3:22PM

    My brother (a doctor) volunteered his efforts for a month in the previous earthquake, my aunt is a volunteer in an orphanage, my father’s cousin was recently murdered for being ahmadie despite being a doctor and him and his wife often volunteering their time to provide healthcare for free. Ahmadies have only shown this county their love, care and allegiance despite all this aggressive persecution attributed to us and we refuse to show any malice or any intention of revenge. What do we have to do to be treated with equal rights as it seems even winning a nobel prize is not enough!Recommend

  • Najm
    Aug 19, 2010 - 3:32PM

    Discrimination like this is simple unbelievable and shows the true extent of the damage caused to the moral fibre of Pakistan by the so called ‘Ulema’. The Ahmadiyya community is proactively raising money all over the world to help the victims of this disaster without prejudice and yet those in authority continue to discriminate. This is the latest example of Ahmadi’s being treated even less then citizens of Pakistan, let alone as Muslims. Another depressing chapter in Pakistan’s history.Recommend

  • Haider
    Aug 19, 2010 - 3:43PM

    Ahmadi’s come to the help of nations in need throughout the World regardless of caste, colour or religion. Religion aside, surely this is what being human is. People of other faiths also have given aid to Pakistan.

    Yet Pakistans discrimination in helping its own citizens, just goes to show the depths of ignorance that this country is being led by.Recommend

  • Ejaz
    Aug 19, 2010 - 3:45PM

    clearly we can see this is not the attitude of the rest of the country. Although we may have different views on religion at times like these we should put aside those differences.

    I hope this out an outburst by leaders of the Ahmadiya community due to general lack of support like the rest of the affected people in Pakistan are getting.

    May Allah help those in need, and give us strength to helpRecommend

  • quratul ain
    Aug 19, 2010 - 3:50PM

    no wonder this is happening to us. we have descended to the lowest levels of human existence and moral ethics. where and when did ALLAH gave a muslim right to question someone belief, the Prophet wont evn openly declare munafiqeen by their names in the islamic society in medina let alone call them as non muslims. paksitan is the only state in the world that have declared them as non muslims. but lets not get into this debate.
    pakistan was created in name of islam but not just for muslims, why do we forget jinnah and his leadership. islam does not preach discrimnation, inhumanity, injustice!! it is against all of this. please get rid of this “local mullahs”, shun them and prosecute them under law. media and civil society should play their part iin this.Recommend

  • Farhan Zaheer
    Aug 19, 2010 - 4:17PM

    For those who doubt this story: forget this incident, take out the facts of pakistan’s history and you will find hundreds of incidents against minorities. Can we say that our establishment has been fairer with minorities?

    For those who criticise Pakistan: dont criticise your country, criticise yourself first for silently witnessing atrocities against minorities in pakistan.

    Its time to mend our ways and condemn all such incidents against common pakistanis and especially against voiceless minorities.Recommend

  • Waqas Ahmed
    Aug 19, 2010 - 4:24PM

    How long will it take for Pakistan to make a change? Someone needs to stand up and make a stance and forget their seat of political power.Condemnation is not enough. Even animals are given more compassion than this.Recommend

  • K Ahmad
    Aug 19, 2010 - 5:18PM

    Do these people have any humanity left in them? This is absolutely disgraceful. People are suffering – HELP THEM!Recommend

  • Atif
    Aug 19, 2010 - 5:27PM

    Once again we see severe discrimination against the Ahmadi community. It has been happening for over 25 years. 25 years of state persecution.
    Ahmadis have done nothing but helped Pakistan in every way possible, Ahmadis have given their lives for their country and it was Ahmadis who played a major role in the founding of Pakistan.

    Yet we see year after year and time and time again they are subjected to the most severe discrimination for no reason other than they call themselves Ahmadis. These extremist clerics are mainly behind this but it is the government who is supporting them and giving them a free license to do anything they want. The government plays a very active role in this persecution and has been doing so for many years. The country is in such a terrible state yet the government chooses to ignore the one group of citizens who are and always have been loyal Pakistan. This is what we see happening, Pakistan is being destroyed by itself and by the blinded leaders and clerics and it seems there is no way out now for the people who transgress. Recommend

  • Shahmir Ali Khan
    Aug 19, 2010 - 5:32PM

    I hope you are happy General Zia, ZA Bhutto and all those who supported these horrific measures against our own Pakistani people in the name on religion. Shame on us for not speaking up!Recommend

  • Bilal Ahmad
    Aug 19, 2010 - 5:34PM

    It is very painful to know that even at such tragic moments of our national life, extremists are pursuing their way of prejudice and hatred against peaceful minorities. Is this the national attitude we were created to go with, was this the way our leaders including Jinnah had in mind when he asked Parsis, Hindus and Sikhs living in Pakistani areas to remain here and work for prosperity of this newly born nation. How sad full it is that we don’t let any opportunity go away to prove ourselves as victim of religious extremism in pre 1947 era, and now we are behaving in more worse manner to our own minorities. Our State lacks will to not only support victims of such discrimination but it also works to hide and suppress this ugly face of our national life. What will we get by denying relief to those minorities, nothing, God will arrange someone if he has a will to protect them but it is for us to know that we are not behind anyone when it comes to barbaric treatment to minorities.Recommend

  • Mahmood Syed
    Aug 19, 2010 - 6:02PM

    ANOTHER EXAMPLE of discrimination faced by Ahmadi Muslims in Pakistan. They are treated not just as non-Muslims, but as non citizens. This can be viewed as quite ironic considering the contributions made by Ahmadis both in creation and maintenance of Pakistan.
    However an even greater irony is that Ahmadis all over the world are raising money and collecting tents to help alleviate the hardships that the flood victims are suffering. The aid will not go to just the Ahmadis but to the whole population. Ahmadis do not discriminate against those in need as was proved in the aid effort after the earthquake in 2005.Recommend

  • A
    Aug 19, 2010 - 6:04PM

    Is this the example of our beloved Holy Prophet? (saw)Recommend

  • Rizwan
    Aug 19, 2010 - 6:07PM

    Could the author please be kind enough to tell all the respected readers where he obtained the picture from? If the author actually visited the affected areas then why doesn’t he show a picture of the regions that he has talked about?

    The picture shown is of a temporary relief camp near Charsadda on the Islamabad-Peshawar Motorway.

    Respected author, you are making us doubt the credibility of the story and highlighting the fact that the story was published with a view to create disharmony and to get more clicks!!

    As far as the Ahmedi community is concerned, I condemn all sorts of discrimination against Pakistani citizens. If there has been any such incident then it should be investigated and the culprits be brought to justice. However, let me remind you that it is not only Ahmedis that are suffering because of floods, has anybody asked about the Hindu community of Sindh? In any case, it is Pakistanis that are suffering so please stop this debate and do something for the flood victims!!Recommend

  • Aug 19, 2010 - 6:22PM


    From what I know, it can’t be govt, might few greedy officers did this , can be called deception. They had betrayed the nation, Each Pakistani will state this sentence.Recommend

  • Solja32
    Aug 19, 2010 - 6:24PM

    I am ashamed to be born in this country, I desperately wait for the day when I will be proud on this nation, unfortunately (even though I am 24 years old) I doesn’t seem like it’s gonna happen in my life time.Recommend

  • Dhanya
    Aug 19, 2010 - 6:25PM

    If Ahamadiya Muslim community is facing such discrimination, then what would be the condition of people from Hindu and Christian communities. Is there really anything said in Holy Quran against helping nonmuslims?. If so, please anybody do clarify?. Thank you. Recommend

  • zeeshan mahmood
    Aug 19, 2010 - 6:35PM

    so People are inviting more calamities themselves…. Save Innocent Pakistanis and guide these unguided hooligans…,.Recommend

  • R. Querieshi
    Aug 19, 2010 - 6:39PM
  • shiv
    Aug 19, 2010 - 7:37PM

    But surely the laws of Pakistan clearly give preference to Muslims over non Muslims. As Ahmedis are considered non Muslim why worry if discrimination is shown? After all people are still following the laws of the land in these troubled times. Imagine if people stated breaking laws. Imagine if a Muslim died because a non Muslim was being fed. Surely causing the death of one Muslim is like causing the death of al Muslims.

    So what exactly is wrong with the discrimination being shown? After all the world is showing discrimination against Pakistan. Pakistan should return the compliment to non Muslims, no? Recommend

  • Musa
    Aug 19, 2010 - 7:41PM

    First we should know how good we are as a Muslim. Our Holy prophet Muhammad S.A.W said be kind to everyone and ALLAH will be kind to You. So please help these people they are a part of us our nation and civilization…………………Recommend

  • Safeer
    Aug 19, 2010 - 7:49PM

    This behaviour is completely outrageous and unjustifiable. It is tantamount to state-sponsored discrimination and should be condemned by all sections of society – particularly national governments.

    Regardless of religious persuasion, these people should be cared for by their own government – that they are not shows a dramatic failing in the strength of the nation’s institutions.

    I also don’t believe that the people of Pakistan are being represented by the ignorance of the policies that are formed by their elected government – or by the actions of those local officials and clerics. I hope these good people of Pakistan can find the strength to take a stand against these injustices.

    Ordinance XX is a crime against humanity and against any semblance of logic and reason.Recommend

  • John Donne
    Aug 19, 2010 - 7:51PM

    I like your comment Harpareet. You have spoken well. People like you who tell the truth are too few. Recommend

  • saadianafeesa
    Aug 19, 2010 - 9:25PM

    well,if muslims believe, helping ahmedis in floodhit areas is a sin,do they realize ,that the aid………. they are getting most is from non _muslim nations where does islamization taboo goes here…….it is being consumed gladly there is no BIG NO NO ……………I just admire the humanity part of our muslim brotherhood hats off to clerics and the local government officials mashalla good job where does all islamiat lessons gooooooooooooooooo read in school college csp level and at homeRecommend

  • Ghuman
    Aug 19, 2010 - 9:45PM

    Unbelievable; maybe the current punishment from Allah is not enough for us to open our eyes.Recommend

  • Aftab
    Aug 19, 2010 - 9:51PM

    I dreamed of an earth quick……..

    I hope this dream does not become reality

    I do not know when people stop listening these clerics..

    Most of them have a notorious evil profileRecommend

  • Erum Malik
    Aug 20, 2010 - 12:39AM

    i agree with XYZ why is our international image so bad ? we have to look at ourselves . who will help us ? Recommend

  • ammar bajwa
    Aug 20, 2010 - 2:39AM

    this is nothing new and it can be one of the reason that Pakistan is in a miserable situation like this its a point to think what are we doing where are we going only creating hate-rate among our own Recommend

  • Ahmadhi Echo
    Aug 20, 2010 - 4:00AM

    Corrupt officials of Pakistan do not even remember why this nation was created in the first place. Was it not created because Islam was a minority religion in India and thus was persecuted? Forgetting their own history they are repeating offenses which their ancestors ran away from. The “Pak” in Pakistan was it not supposed to stand for purity? Why is the ‘purity’ going down the drain? Regardless of what religion, I hope the spiritual individuals globally will pray for this nation that does not understand or comprehend it’s own hypocrisy. Recommend

  • Ahmadhi Echo
    Aug 20, 2010 - 4:22AM

    If Ahmadhi’s criticize or ‘malign’ it is with the best of intent. Just because the nation is in chaos right is it right to ignore discrimination? The reason these issues are brought up is so that Pakistani’s who love their nation and Islam will reflect on their actions and the actions of the government as a whole. And these kinds of issues do not need to be brought up to ruin the little reputation Pakistan has left. The people of Pakistan have gotten enough negative media attention to last them a lifetime. If there are people out there who do not care about donating to help Pakistan it is not because of articles like these. The reason is because a) they are Islamophobic, b) they do not wish to support a Muslim country, c) they are stingy with their money, or d) they have read previous negative media about Pakistan which probably has nothing to do with Ahmadhi’s.
    Through Humanity First (an Ahmadhi Humanitarian organization) Ahmadhi’s are donating tons of money for their brothers and sisters in Pakistan.
    The reality is that the flood fund in Pakistan can definitely be solved without outside help. Islam is the second largest religion in the world. If the Muslims globally made an effort to donate even as little as $2 (let’s say American) then that would be a huge convenience. Yet the Muslims rich and poor, in this day and age are found to be very stingy with their money. It is a known fact that the majority of Muslims have negative views of Ahmadhi community already. So these kinds of articles wouldn’t have mattered to that majority. Recommend

  • Ahmadhi Echo
    Aug 20, 2010 - 4:26AM

    These kinds of articles create disharmony between who exactly? There is already disharmony between the majority of Muslims and Ahmadhi’s in Pakistan. Ahmadhi’s don’t dislike the majority of Muslims though. It is the majority of Muslims who dislike us. This article won’t change the issue much. But if Allah wills then maybe this article will allow the Pakistani majority to become more open-minded when it comes to minority groups. The only negative impact this article could have is if a ‘Ahmadhi’ reads it and decides not to send funds to Pakistan. But that will never happen. We are united community and our Khalifa is telling us to donate for the poor in Pakistan. Thus, the Ahmadhi community will hear and will obey. Recommend

  • Ahmadhi Echo
    Aug 20, 2010 - 4:31AM

    I like that being outside of the Ahmadhi denomination you have still give positive feedback. I would just like to let you know that according to Islam no person has the right to call another person’s faith false. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) as said that “If a Muslim calls a person a disbeliever when he claims to have belief, then he himself is a disbeliever.” I hope you don’t connect yourself with that kind of status in the future. Recommend

  • Ayesha
    Aug 20, 2010 - 5:50AM

    Pakistan’s situation is deteriorating day by day, Only way out of it is that Pakistan should have equal rights for all. Recommend

  • Zulfiqar
    Aug 20, 2010 - 8:21AM

    There must be no discrimination against any citizen,religion and sect in these miserable days…..If government can accept and ask for help and money from other non Muslims country, then why they are showing this discriminative attitude for their citizens….Recommend

  • Aug 20, 2010 - 8:49AM

    I agree with Hassan. There are almost never concrete facts given. This is the wrong attitude.

    In these times when there are fears of widespread anarchy, such kind of news items can only do more damage. There are many people who have received zero support from the government- you only have to surf the news channels and go there personally to know. It has nothing to do with Ahmaddiya community, or Hindu community or the Muslim community. The government is slacking for all. However, if i do give you a benefit of doubt, ( although journalism is reporting facts and there should not even be doubt), then ofcourse such a treatment by the officials is pathetic and must be punished.

    Apparently the DCO was unaware of the treatment, which shows his slackness of going himself and checking whether all were getting relief, as opposed to people coming to him. If this is the attitude God knows how many small tehseels have been sufferiing just because they did not go to the DCO. pathetic state of affairs.Recommend

  • Khurram
    Aug 20, 2010 - 9:28AM

    So shameful. They are the most cruel people on the face of earth. Recommend

  • vanquish
    Aug 20, 2010 - 10:52AM

    In comparison to other developing nations,is there anything good about Pakistan? It is such a blindfolded and narrow minded nation that even if Allah shakes the entire country with bigger calamities, yet they wouldn’t understand.
    May Allah guide and have mercy on them.Recommend

  • MSD
    Aug 20, 2010 - 11:53AM

    Amazing! So this is what the wicked clerics and brutal oppressors of Ahmadi’s want to accomplish, to force Ahmadi Muslims to denounce their faith and yet in return accept this trecherous faith of their oppressors?! Good luck!
    Long Live Ahamadiiyat True Islam!Recommend

  • Imran
    Aug 20, 2010 - 11:56AM


    I dont think that this nation have learnt from there mistakes and reality and punishment from Allah.

    I was out of country in Turkey (Muslim Country) and was amazed to found that only Pakistan is after color, religious race, non of any other country is after religious, no body bother to think of any one else then his own attitude, they dont even have time to think of the religious hearted, they believe they have to answer to God not to human, why we Ahmedi;s are being targeted, because I think we are threat to them in reality they are fear of losing in terms of who is holding real Islam, I believe that if we stop this race of religion and colors then we can grow, other wise I see that Pakistan will sink soon and later this nation will realize that they were wrong, but it would be too late…….
    Stop this un acceptable attitude, come back and stop all this….. You will not get any thing out of it, you will only get deep in to Allahs AZABBRecommend

  • Rachel
    Aug 20, 2010 - 12:37PM

    If the Pakistani government hates Ahmadis so much, they should also refuse the aid sent by Ahmadi charities. Will they do this? No, because Ahmadis all over the world have sent money and goods to be distributed to ALL of those affected by the flooding. I find the actions, or rather lack of action, of the Pakistani government disgraceful in this day and age. Recommend

  • nawaz Ahmad
    Aug 20, 2010 - 12:42PM

    I have donated large sums towards relief efforts for the People of Pakistan, even though I am under a huge debt. I love Pakistan and I love all Pakistanis. I love Pakistani Muslims, because they are ardent followers of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH]. They are not at fault because they have been taught that to mistreat and to kill Ahmadees is a essential requirement to become a devout Muslim.They will eventually learn the truth but the hard way. I pray to Allah, to guide all of them on the right path. I pray that they be given the minds to understand the teachings of Prophet Mohammad[PBUH], particularly towards fellow human beings.I pray to Allah to make Pakistan a land of Peace and Love. I pray that Allah may forgive the people of our beloved country and shower His blessings on us. Ameen. If we want to avoid Azab e Elahi like the floods, we need to improve our human rights and our discriminatory laws. But if we think that we can hoodwink Allah through lip service, then we should know that Allah is AllPowerful and All Knowing. He knows the secrets of your hearts also. So let us please Him, the way He has commanded us, through Prophet Mohammad [PBUH]. Let us unite and do good works and look after the needy lest it is too late and we find ourselves in another more serious disaster. Recommend

  • smak
    Aug 20, 2010 - 1:15PM

    With due respect and regards,
    This article is totally rubbish.It has no truth in it. No single community has been marked by any authority or organization or religion out of humanity. Those who are flood effectees, they are in the statics and they are being rescued according to the available expertise, capacity and resource.Recommend

  • Nony Mous
    Aug 20, 2010 - 2:53PM

    Ahmadi PR machine at work. No mention of local clerics nor government official. Recommend

  • John Donne
    Aug 20, 2010 - 3:14PM

    Mr Nawas Ahmad,you have stated that “the Pakistani Muslims have been taught to mistreat and kill Ahmadees is an essential requirement to become a devout MUslim”. Can you quote the source of your information. Do you realise that to make such a statement is insulting the community you have referred to?
    Isn’t it most unfortunate and vicious to make such a statement without substantiating the souce of information? Do you know that to defame anyone can result in facing action in the court of law, and is answerable to the One whom all of us must face one day on the Day of Judgment, which I know not if you believe in.Recommend

  • Salutations
    Aug 20, 2010 - 5:43PM

    People grow up. The nation is falling apart, economy is reducing to bits, the government is drowning in debt and REAL people are dying. These are the causes for concern. Not the fact that Ahmadis are muslims or not. Live and let live. When will pakistan understand this? The sooner the better, because otherwise, this is just the beginning of what is yet to come. A nation is built with hard work and it takes ALL sorts of people to make it. Pakistan was made with all religious faiths and backgrounds in mind. The killing and injustice towards any human being is abosolutely UNCALLED for. Is this what Islam teaches us? Is this the true nature of the coming of a prophet of Islam? Stop being barbaric and treat everyone equally with respect and dignity. Maybe then, Allah will have mercy on this nation. Recommend

  • Jabeen Ghauri
    Aug 20, 2010 - 7:00PM

    At the root and basis of every religion lies compassion. No matter the theology.
    And compassion is indifferent to religious, political and ideological boundaries.
    It is at times like these that humanity is given the opportunity to practise its humaneness whether in the name of religion or not, or choose to opt out of the brotherhood of humanity and what it means to be human. Recommend

  • Sadia
    Aug 20, 2010 - 10:03PM

    @ Mr. John Donne
    “Mr Nawas Ahmad,you have stated that “the Pakistani Muslims have been taught to mistreat and kill Ahmadees is an essential requirement to become a devout MUslim”.”
    I think it is you, who is living under a rock. You want the source of information for this statement? It seems you are well uninfored about the people and opinions of the citizens/gov’t officials/religious leaders of Pakistan. Do you not listen to the news. The whole Pakistan history and the news is proof and your biggest source for this statement. Recommend

  • hakeem
    Aug 20, 2010 - 11:47PM

    Principaly all citizans including Ahmadis must be treated indiscriminately, but regarding this specific story it apparently seems baseless, chain of facts not well connected.Recommend

  • Zunnaira
    Aug 21, 2010 - 1:00AM

    Once again the Mullahs are out sniffing infidels!! This was the time of standing united, I hope one of these Clerics suffer the atrocities of flood and then they will see how big is an Ahmadi’s heart who will still be happy to help him.
    If anyone tells me these clerics and their followers eat human flesh I will not be surprised because they are the worst creatures on earth!Recommend

  • Kamran
    Aug 21, 2010 - 2:18AM

    Honourable CJ – No suo motos ???
    Electronic Media – Hello ???Recommend

  • Aug 21, 2010 - 2:52AM

    When Mullahs keeping aid and food away from Ahmadies in affected areas, at the same time Humanity First (Humanitarion Organization of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community) serving and providing aid to People of Pakistan in most of the affected areas without any discrimination of race or religion.
    It saddens me why Pakistanis don’t try to change themselves.
    May Allah give them strength to accept the reality.Recommend

  • Tahir
    Aug 21, 2010 - 3:58AM

    Pakistan is certainly on a slippery road to ruin and devastation. Everyone knows how many of the Pakistani public ‘blindly’ follow the Mullahs in their hatred, persecution and killing of Ahmadis WHILST the remaining public sits quietly and watches. All are to blame one way or the other. Only in the last few days, despite the floods, two more Ahmadis were martyred just for being Ahmadis. We Ahmadis, following the example of Prophet Muhammad (saw) and the early Sahaba, continue to suffer but in return we have never retaliated, but instead have always turned to our Creator with patience and prayers.Recommend

  • Aug 21, 2010 - 6:01AM

    Where should i start this tragic episode from, Every single Pakistani news channel today is pronouncing LOUD n CLEAR that these Floods are a Direct punishment from God Almighty in return for our deeds….Day in and day out i hear a TV channel use the word “Azab-e-Illahi” i.e a punishment From God.

    They(on T.V) say that we should ask for forgiveness from God BUT I humbly ask that if this nation is going to continue its in-humane acts towards its citizens or a group of Pakistanis then How on earth do they actually think they will be Forgiven by God in the first place???

    What religion, Faith, Ideology or Philosophy accepts this In-humane act of barbaric attitude to stop or hold a box of basic aid to reach a person who is left with his 2 hands n feat to live on? And what right do these government officials or so called religious clerics have to declare that a certain group of people should not be allowed any shelter? I mean did a Pakistani living in or outside the country who donated through money or means even for a single sec think that his particular aid should or should not reach a group of People…?? If he is a Pakistani than certainly he did not…!!!

    Wake up Pakistan …..Wake up….. Cause If not Now then what more are u waiting for…?Recommend

  • Sadia
    Aug 21, 2010 - 6:49AM

    This is utterly shameful. Let us remember that Allah will always be with the Ahmadis and anyone that causes them harm and persecutes them are going against the teachings of the Holy Prophet (SAW) and will have to answer to Allah for their actions. Recommend

  • John Donne
    Aug 21, 2010 - 8:02AM

    Ladies and Gentlemen, by now we have 151 comments on this topic, some harsh and some kind. We Pakistanis have some things in common: we are highly emotional,have little tolerance, get easily disappointed and frustrated, blame each other,even for minor mistakes, but find no fault in ourselves. That’s why democracy produced chaos and anarchy, whenever it came. But we got to learn that there is no better political system yet devised by man. Therefore, lets develop the qualities which causes democracy to florish. We ascribe natural disasters as punishment from our Lord. How do we know it is from Him. There is no doubt that many of our acts are bad, even worse or more, but He says that He is an ever- indulgent Lord and continues to forgive us. He furhter says that if He were to take us to task for our misdeeds He wouldn’t leave even one of us alive. In the 114 Surahs of our holy Scripture, except one, He begins his message to us with,”In the name of the Lord Most gracious, Most Merciful”. He wishes us to be merciful to all our fellow men and women. I believe we have had plenty of comments on this topic by now, so it would be better for us to end it, and devote ourselves to help our unfortunate brethren in any way we can. I would also request Express Tribune to close this topic for more comments. Thank you all, anf my best wishes to you.Recommend

  • Aug 21, 2010 - 5:54PM

    Forgive us Allah Mian, as we’ve forgotten the finest example of Prophet Muhammad SAW on Whom a Jew lady used to throw junk daily, despite that Prophet Muhammad SAW visited her when she was on bed — ailingRecommend

  • sidra Javaid
    Aug 21, 2010 - 6:11PM

    I feel so sorry for are brothers and sisters, and i hope and pray for them for there safety, and for their well beings, i want to help but i don’t know where to send the money, please can anyone tell me?
    it would be really grateful of you to help me out here.
    this is my email just send me the information there.Recommend

  • Aug 21, 2010 - 6:57PM

    @sidra Javaid

    Humanity First Pakistan is helping people of Pakistan in most of the affected areas, you can see this link to get the information of how HFP is working in Pakistan and how to donate:
    Humanity First Pakistan Website

    If you are living outside of Pakistan, you can go to their global website to select your country, they are registered in 33 countries. I have been using their US website, they have donate online option:
    Humanity First Global WebsiteRecommend

  • khurram
    Aug 21, 2010 - 8:58PM

    we must fear Allah & think what GOD wants, when crisis comes people hels without thinking religion, like global village is helping pakistan without thinking we are muslim
    people must think, sun rises only muslims or whole world ??????Recommend

  • Malik muzaffar
    Aug 22, 2010 - 2:07AM

    Is this the example of the Holy Prophet Peace be upon Him about which they are showing.Shame on them and Shame on the Gov of Pakistan.They should learn from the prophet of Islam. May ALLAH bring change in minds of the people. Whole world is laughing on them,due to these kind of things. Recommend

  • salutations
    Aug 22, 2010 - 3:04AM

    The brothers who got killed in Sialkot. Another great story out of Pakistan. How many more innocent lives will be shed before this country relaizes that enough is enough! Who cares, hindu, muslim, Ismaili, Shia, Ahmadi or Sialkoti brothers??? Why does it matter??
    They are all HUMAN BEINGS. ALL ARE FROM PAKISTAN. Treat Life with respect and maybe then Allah will treat the Pakistani nation with love and honor. STOP THESE BARBARIC KILLINGS NOW!! Recommend

  • neutral observer
    Aug 22, 2010 - 4:24AM

    Pakistan today is run by a bunch of monkeys who have the combined IQ of 6 year olds. They clearly can’t run a functioning nation state by themselves and should just hand over their land to the US or India or any people with half a brain. people dying = relief. Anyone else would understand this formulaRecommend

  • Aug 22, 2010 - 5:17AM

    Simple.. Love for All, Hatred for None..

    Only an Ahmedi has been saying this and will continue to say it..

    Remember, Allah watches us all and knows all.. Not humans..Recommend

  • m
    Aug 22, 2010 - 11:46PM

    This Pakistani people coudn’t learn anything from any body .Because these flood is not simple thing,they should learn from this.because
    whole world now halping them include those (Christran,Ahmadi,Hindu,
    ets.)people who have been hated by these Pakistani.But still Ahmadi
    people have been discriminiting by these people.Recommend

  • Aug 23, 2010 - 12:35AM

    strong textNo one will believe me if I say that when innocent Ahmadis were still being killed by the brutal terrorists in their worship places,sweets were being distributed in northern city to celebrate the chivalry and a mullah was addressing the friday gathering saying that “though our two mujahedeen were killed but we have slain heaps of *kufaarRecommend

  • Syed
    Aug 23, 2010 - 1:00AM

    Have we lost all traces of humanity?Recommend

  • Ali
    Aug 23, 2010 - 2:59AM

    Pakistan Govrement should know that even Ahmadi is a Human! If you cant to anything for Ahmadis, do something for the humanity at least! Now, even Pakistan haven’t right to critisize to the world, why they arent helping Pakistan in this disaster – When even Pakistan arent helping theyre population! I hope the whole goverment gets blast!!Recommend

  • Cromulent
    Aug 23, 2010 - 5:34AM

    These are just the wages of Islam.Recommend

  • Mudassir
    Aug 23, 2010 - 10:25AM

    On **may 28th**, attacks were carrried out on Ahmadi mosques in Lahore. On **June 28th**, Airblue plane crashed in the Margalla hills killing all on board. On **July 28th** the unprecedented floods hit this country causing havoc that none of us had ever witnessed.
    This may just be a coincidence, but just think for a while. Will this country’s leaders and clerics (so called Ullemas)ever learn???Recommend

  • John Donne
    Aug 23, 2010 - 11:43AM

    Thank you for your posting Mr Mudassir. Let me talk about two incidents from the past: 1) a son was born in the family of our holy Prophet, and he died soon after. A total solar eclipse happened that day. One of his companions opined that it had happened because the sun was moved to sorrow. He replied that this was a natural event, unconnected with the death of his son. 2) this one is about a conversation between me and my Professor at the American University, where I was studying. He related to me that he was drafted in the army during the Second World War, as all able-bodied Americans are. His pastor in the army stated in the church one Sunday, that God was on their side in the war against Germans. He told me that he couldn’t digest the idea of God taking sides in the conflicts of men. And was so repelled by such talk, that he never attended church there-after. I learnt a lesson from him that day. I believe there is a thin margin between Faith and superstition.Recommend

  • wisdom
    Aug 23, 2010 - 8:51PM

    This is nothing new…Pakistan has been discriminating this ahmadiiya minority for over 30 years – the whole world knows about it since the 28th of may 2010. Yesterday the foreign minister of germany announced, that Germany will not send money to the government, instead of it they will send relief goods, because they do not trust the government and believe, that the government money will embezzle the money… and give a part of it to the extremists – poor Pakistan…this is the picture the world has of you…because of the “clerics” and the government, which are everything else than ISLAMIC.Recommend

  • Zara
    Aug 24, 2010 - 7:23PM

    Love For All Hatred For NoneRecommend

  • Dr. Inam
    Aug 24, 2010 - 8:17PM

    @ Rizwan Ahmad. I think you remarks are discriminatory and derrogatory. What has beeen reported in the media is that Ahmadis were discriminated by the government in flood relief. Instead of condemning that fact you are condemning Ahmadis. Thats is where Pakistan started falling apart. Nepotism, favoritsm, bribes and Mullah ka pait bharoo even though he spreads hatred in the Juma Khutba. Think with an open mind, the people suffering are Pakistanis first and without any discrimination they should have been provided basic needs. If any of you have lived in the western society, have you ever noticed that they refused you emergency treatment in the hospital because you are a Muslim.Recommend

  • Maleeha Javed
    Aug 25, 2010 - 1:14AM

    Now this is lack of humanity. Even Muhammad(PBUH)did not make any discrimination between Kafir and Muslims. We as a Nation need to get out of this please. Be open minded! Follow your religion but do not leave the humanity. I guess religion is important but for the sake of humanity one should do good, so humanity is also more important.

    It is good that through this article we see another side of the our society. They must have forgotten ‘Huqooq-ul-Ibaad’, one needs to remind them for what Islam has said about ‘Huqooq-ul-Ibaad’.Recommend

  • murassa sanaullah
    Aug 25, 2010 - 5:47PM

    r Aahmadis not citizens of Pakistan. does islam teach us such lesson ,if not then why r denying islams lesson of lov for all humanity .every citizen of pakistan should be helped irrespective of caste, colour ,and religion.allcivilized nations do that ,this applies for not only the govt. but r so called musalmans.shame on them.Recommend

  • shazil
    Aug 26, 2010 - 1:29AM

    i remembered that day the headline was the Flood in we are not supporting any1 on the religion bases ……….so Y we discriminate anyone .here we are only supporting people on humanity bases not on sects on other bases.Recommend

  • Kasim
    Aug 26, 2010 - 3:17AM

    No wonder the international community doesn’t trust the so called Pakistani government because it is a corrupt regime, and this is exactly why. Love for all, Hatred for None.Recommend

  • Qasid
    Aug 26, 2010 - 4:41PM

    Pakistan contradicts itself. It states that it will always treat every citizen of Pakistan equal when a law was passed a few decades ago that Ahmadis can’t be.Recommend

  • AR
    Aug 27, 2010 - 3:29AM

    This is a shame to the whole society of Pakistan, this is the image they present of themselves to the rest of the world. Some extremist Islamic preachers explained that Pakistan is in this present condition, because they were unable to wipe out the Ahmadiyya Jamaat and this is their punishment from Allah. I can only see a lack of humanity in these people. However, I still urge everyone to pray for the people who have been severely affected by these floods, whether Ahmadi Muslim, Sunni Muslim, Christian or Jew. After all, no one should be withdrawn from their right of being human!!! Recommend

  • Arub
    Aug 27, 2010 - 8:32AM

    As an American born Pakistani, I’ve always taken pride in my heritage and culture, and most of all my religion. I can’t speak with full authority on how it is to live there, as I don’t face the hardships some people face everyday; I can only speak based on what I see during my short visits to Pakistan, and read about, and hear from Pakistanis. What I’ve learned in the past few years about our current situation makes me sad. As the situation of Pakistan deteriorates, especially fast in recent years, hatred and inhumanity spreads and violence increases against anyone who’s beliefs are different. However, through it all, I’ve still maintained a hopeful attitude always and was never truly ashamed of being Pakistani. When I heard about the floods I knew it was Allah telling us to change ourselves for as a nation we’d fallen so low that we needed a jolt, or a taste of Allah’s wrath to awaken us and attempt to remove us from the path we’re on. While on one hand I see people within Pakistan doing so much and responding to the disaster with an open heart, perhaps with the realization sinking in that this was Allah’s message to us: change yourselves. On the other hand, I still see people continuing to spread that same hatred and intolerance that brought us here in the first place, even in the midst of a crisis. What more do you need to see before changing yourself? InshAllah I truly hope this brings about a better change in the long run, closer to the picture Quaid-e-Azam had for Pakistan, as opposed to falling deeper into this horrible pit we have slowly dug ourselves into.Recommend

  • Al
    Aug 27, 2010 - 1:39PM

    ‘misguided religion’ please refrain from bringing religious flare into a humanitarian forumRecommend

  • Al
    Aug 27, 2010 - 1:40PM

    there are other places to discuss theseRecommend

  • Aug 28, 2010 - 11:10AM

    Vilest shame on us so called Pakistanis and Muslims who denied help to our people and citizen on the basis of faith. such behaviour is ‘zulm’ in the words of the holy Quran, and all those who have been responsible for denying food and shelter to the Ahmadiees during the present flood situation are likel to go to purgatory, because they have not measured to the scale of ‘taqwa’ Recommend

  • khalid
    Aug 29, 2010 - 6:04AM

    I read this articl and all of these coments after that I have some exampels and Question’s
    1.When Sahaba-e-Rasool Salillaho alaihy wasalam (Razi Allah ho taala anho) migrated in Habsha the never look Government of habsha is Muslim Government or any other religius Government ?
    2.If any person help to other person then they must be asked which relegion have you ?
    3.Hadrat Mohamad Salillah ho alaihy wasalam some time take cradit from yahoodi pepels also that is islamic histry that time any muslim never make any objection about his religion ?
    4.If any body is injurd then doctor dont have any right to aske first about his relegion he shuld help to him ?
    5.If pakistani Government take help from Non Muslim cuntries or peoples but why they dont do help Non Muslim peoples for example Ahmadies (So called diclared non Muslim from Government of Pakistan)
    6.I have requst if any body do social work or social help then they look Humanity is First. I think this is the velue of Humanity.
    with thanksRecommend

  • khalid
    Aug 29, 2010 - 6:21AM

    Love for All Hatred for NoneRecommend

  • Hasan Mir
    Aug 29, 2010 - 11:49AM

    The levels of intolerance in our country beggars disbelief. Recommend

  • Baffled Reader
    Aug 29, 2010 - 8:33PM

    @ Rizwan Ahmad: if you’re so into facts.. i’d like to know where you’re getting yours.. claiming that this article is baseless. i think you should stop being ignorant and FACE the FACTS. this happens everyday. OH.. and i love how you ignored the issue and went on to make an irrelevant comment about the worldwide population of Ahmadis. I’d really love to know which population study of yours contradicts the one put out by the community, since you seem to be so good with the facts.

    @ Merk: cheap publicity? What do you want the world to do?.. Ignore the mercilessness Pakistani aid administrators show Ahmadis so that THEY can gain some sympathy and aid from the rest of the world? please stop being ridiculous. if you loved the country so much, you would recognize the core issues with the mentality of its people and try to address the underlying issue rather than suppressing it for a quick fix.. because trust me, this nation is WAY beyond the quick fix stage. it needs some serious moral reform. hence.. the wrath of Allah. Recommend

  • Anonymous
    Aug 30, 2010 - 5:45AM

    @John Donne:
    I completely understand your perspective but there are a few facts that you are skipping or are choosing to ignore.
    1. During the Battle of Badr the Prophet threw sand at the Meccans and it was stated to be like Allah himself throwing the sand to the opponents. Not only this there are many saying of the Prophet and Quranic verses the make a correlation between natural disasters and punishment.
    2. Punishment or not? I agree it is not right to infer that every single natural disaster is a punishment from God. But is it only a coincidence? After Mong (when a few Ahmadi’s were killed during Ramadhan praying in a Mosque) an earthquake hit Pakistan and after Lahore massive floods have been continuously hitting Pakistan.

    I will end it here.Recommend

  • Z
    Aug 30, 2010 - 9:51PM

    Well Said..Recommend

  • Iftikhar Sheikh
    Sep 2, 2010 - 9:40PM

    Pakistan is engulfed in turmoil of preposterous dimensions because of the demagogue attitude of so called Muslim clerics , or Jihadi Mullahs. They were bitterly against the creation of Pakistan and Qaid-e-Azam. Now it has come into existence, they are going to destroy it from within. These shameless Mullahs have invited the rage of God Almighty and majority of Pakistanis are involved in it now, since they do not speak against injustices .Allah will destroy these Jihadis along with their coronies.
    Do Ghari sabr se kaam lo sathio.
    Rut badal Jaige ,Raat dhal Jaige.Recommend

  • Sep 5, 2010 - 7:00AM

    If this is true that some poeple been denied aid due to their faith(ahmadiyya) then its really shame and Govt of Pakistan is accountable for this unjustyfied act, it may be possible too that such news is fabricated by ahmadiyya.Recommend

  • Dr. Alam
    Sep 24, 2010 - 10:30AM

    Dear Manan,
    you have very rightly pointed out a issue that we al as muslim need to understand and act. Our religion does not teach us discrimination in humans, we as a muslim need to act and make others to follow and us and thats the only way way we could show the world that Islam teach harmony.
    Now coming to the situation, this is the time that we need to develop the systems and strengthen the insitutions. Its all is due due to week systems, so for future preparedness to combat any such catastrophy the systems need to be strengthened.
    Dr. AlamRecommend

  • Anon
    Oct 7, 2010 - 1:20AM

    what was their patronizing ngo ‘humanity first’ doing at that time??different channels from the west have been paid by them to promote and pubicize this ngo,and their so called role in being the ‘saviour’ of flood affectees,,just a gimmick to gain yellow journalism,,just look at the no. of ppl affected in floods,,its in millions n millions,,n look at how the small no. of ahmadis who complained about not getting help from govt,,this news has been blown out of proportion,,bcoz ahmadi or non ahmadi,,majority of flood affectees have been complaining that they could not get the required help/relief,,bcoz the disaster was on such a massive level,,Recommend

  • Faez Ahmed
    Oct 7, 2010 - 2:02AM

    With almost 50000 victims in pakistan being assisted and over 10000 treated by Humanity First, i think the critcism is rather unjust and childish. I think if the above writer knew that all directors and Chairman/vice chairmen are all unpaid volunteers, the comments would never have been made. With approx 95p in every pound going to those who are in need, any such accusations and finger pointing is either just naive or malicious.Recommend

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