India will give Pakistan information it has gathered on alleged Lashkar-e-Taiba terrorist Syed Zabiuddin Ansari, alias Abu Hamza, the handler of the terrorists involved in the 26/11 attacks in Mumbai, during the Indo-Pak foreign secretary-level talks in New Delhi on Wednesday including the passport purportedly issued by Pakistan, according to a report by India today.
Along with Abu Hamza’s Pakistani passport, the visiting delegation will also be given Pakistani domestic identity cards issued to the self-confessed terrorist, both of which show his name as Riyasat Ali.
Abu Hamza allegedly used the passport to enter Saudi Arabia in 2010 to recruit young immigrant Indians for future operations of LeT in India. The passport, copies of which have been obtained by Indian channel NDTV, show his permanent address as Muridke in Sheikhupura, Pakistan.
Published in The Express Tribune, July 4th, 2012.
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@Lala Gee
Please wake up. It's not late morning even, it's late evening.
@GreenOval: Bitter truth is sometimes confused as derogatory. Especially the ones which hurts badly.
@Malatesh: Dude I wouldn't want to inherit any single person or territory from Pakistan, except what is rightfully ours, the Kashmir under Pakistani Occupation.Pakistanis as tourist are most welcome, not as citizens.
@GreenOval: You only need to visit TOI and you will not wonder anymore.
@Fayyaz: Then please tell us, in your opinion, who carried out the 26/11 Mumbai attacks???
My understanding is that when a Pakistani national outside of Pakistan applies for a Passport renewal it takes 40 days as it has to go to Islamabad to Interior ministry. Not too long ago Interior Ministry reported loss of 4000 Passports. Is it possible Abu's passport is one of those missing ones and if it is does, it means all of those missing are infact missing for this purpose? Am I crazy to connect these dots?
Keep the fake passport your Indian RAW Faked. It's your fake one, keep it. Hand Over the Abu Hamza. We will give him to Punjab Police for couple of days and see How he sings that He Knows Colonel Prohit and His Hindu RAW Terrorist team. Munnay, Yeh Golyaan Kisi aur Ko dena. Chalo Bhago yahan Se.
Wonder if any Indian site will allow Pakistanis to post similar derogatory comments which some of the indian trolls regularly mange to post here.
It was reported that Pakistan Govt also claimed to KSA that he should be sent to Pak because he was a PAKISTANI.India did same.Indians matched DNA with his family to presented to KSA. So if Passport was fake,then why our Govt contested?
The passport, made of paper, will be dismissed as "literature". there is nothing "concrete" in it.
@mr. righty rightist:
Yeah right take this quotation of Richard and do what ever you want with it. It was THE PRESIDENT of USA who said that Iraq has Nuclear warhead and he LIED infront of the world so I dont want to hear pathetic comments from an American regarding truth and lies....please...
@Adil: Yeah right..we are always the bad guys...the rest of the world can come here attack our cities, stop our water , occupy illegal terroritories but we are bad...wake up..
@Nand: Yeah Mr.Nand and all the Indian spies caught in Pakistan came here for what. The first thing about todays world is no one is ready to give his views and values...either its Pakistan, India, USA, Russia or even the terrorist. It is like that..and the international court....PLEASE
As pointed out by a few Pakistanis ,it is quiet possible that Zabiuddin Ansari aka Abu Hamza aka Abu Zundal,might have greased a few palms in order to get a fake Pakistani Passport,but.....the thing which is difficult to digest is why were Pakistani authorities going out of their way to salvage his cause? apparently they had done their homework.
@Mr S: How is that ET was reporting that GLOC will be opening before being signed. So no TOI is not stupid. Blame yourself for not understanding. So how many multi passports have you issued to terrorists. You seem to be an authority on it.
No wonder all terrorist attacks originate from Pakistan !!!!
@Malatesh: Check back in 10 years..that's exactly where this sorry "state" is headed..
@Malatesh: Please don't do it. It will facilitate people to become prosperous.
Romeo : Cant u see that I didnt say anything else
@Lala Gee: You seem to be having your head sunk deep in the sand. Dear bro, this Riyasat Ali was in Saudi custody for more than a year now and Pakistan Army (read some other agency) tried its best to prevent his repatriation to India. Two months back even Gen. Kayani went to Saudi Arabia under the garb of Haj to put pressure on Saudi royal family to get this Riyasat Ali sent back to Pakistan. Have you ever heard before any Pak COAS accompanying the Prime Minister for Ummah? Well, when the guy in question is that important to the Army chief, then his passport or overseas id card need not be bought with money. Or probably you are one of those guys who think that it is the holy duty of the Pak Army Chief to accompany the Prime Minister so as to ensure personal security of the Head of the Government. That would be noble thinking indeed!
@Lala Gee: 'If you have enough money, any thing can be bought in Pakistan due to corrupt officials.' Yet you do no have any proof of India's involvement in Baluchistan yet involve it. So all your rantings made are nonsense
If you have enough money, any thing can be bought in Pakistan due to corrupt officials. Getting ID card and passport is one of the cheapest deals. Thousands of Afghan refugees and illegal Bangladeshi immigrants have already done the same. Secondly, identity theft - which is a single biggest crime in Western Europe and North America - is also as convenient in Pakistan as anywhere else. The reality is possessing an ID and passport proves thing except that the guy got them illegally.
@Oopsie!!:
These could have been Bin Laden's words the day before he swam with the fish!
Pakistan has lost its credibility as far as evidence related to Mumbai 26/11 is concerned. India should not share any sort of evidence with Pakistan on Abu Jundal. Pakistan surely will destroy the linking evidence existing in Pakistan as it did in case of Ajmal Kasab.
@VK: I think Raza was being sarcastic .
TOI report itself is stupid and how they are getting all the confidential information ? Getting fake passports is not so difficult thing to obtain and normally terrorists have multiple countries passports
@VK: Raja Khan is being sarcastic and you are being naive.
@Raza Khan: Million dollar commeny by you :) I was just waiting to read it by soem Pakistani! Just do one thing: Stand in from of mirror and try to convince your self that this is a conspiracy against pakistan and by no means any pakistani is involved in providing this passport to Abu Hamza......Check your feelings from the bottom of your heart!
@Malatesh: Talk is of no use. Only solution is, Iran, Afghanistan, China, and India should equally share Pakistan’s territory. Dude - the territory comes with the people in it. I suggest you reconsider your statement.
@vasan: I am sure that the trolls will argue that the passport and ID cards are forged or issued by RAW..........The trolls like you will argue that it is not issued by RAW.....
actualy it is not pakistan it is saudi arbia whome sending pakistani citezenes in the world for terrerisum.
The will still ask for more proofs, shamelessly !!
Yet another achievement by Green Passport- Congratulations to all Patriots here!
Talk is of no use. Only solution is, Iran, Afghanistan, China, and India should equally share Pakistan's territory.
If the documents were fake, the Indian side would not unnecessarily weaken their case by presenting them to the Pakistanis.
Only way to understand this reality is to see it as "Maya" .....an illusion!
@vasan: You said it!
How many Afghan refugees have Pakistani passports though they were not entitled to get Pakistani citizenship. One side our Indian friends call our govt institutions big time corrupt and now it is hard for them to accept that Abu Hamza got PK Passport by illegal means.
Yawwn.least bothered!
If you are a non resident Pakistani, its mandatory to acquire NICOP ie National ID Card for Overseas Pakiatanis. The NICOP holder doesn't require a visa to enter Pakistan even in case he has lost his Pakistani passport or travelling on a travel document. I hope u have learnt something today.
passports are made w/o investigation in pakistan? oh c'mmon and what about pak national id? I don't think it can happen without state support.
Epicenter of global terrorism facilitates its warriors with Id and Passport, no wonder a failed state act like this.
Passport must be fake! It's conspiracy against I.R of PK by RAW, CIA, MOSSAD, etc. We are the most honest people on the planet.
@ET Pakistani Passports are green in color. Change the picture at least.
No doubt that Passports can be made with some fake documents in Pakistan. But, how did he manage to get Visa?
i dnt see much happening in dossier exchanges and negotiations..pakistan will keep harbouring what world calls terrorists and they call mujahideens in the name of kashmir...but it won't be easy this time for pak, for india has set up quite a few consulates and bases in afghanistan, bordering the restive baluchistan and can use it for similar acts of pakistan, vis-a-viz, kashmir
I am sure that the trolls will argue that the passport and ID cards are forged or issued by RAW.
Is this a joke?
In today's TOI there's a report which shows an ID card issued to this terrorist by the government where it clearly says, he needs no visa to enter Pakistan. If I am a citizen of a country, I don't need a visa to enter that country. Why mention it? Is it due to some special OFFICIAL affection towards murderers and terrorists?
Pakistan has no conscience. It's a country of pathological liars like Richard Clarke says. Do you think, Pakistan doesn't know the details of his passport or identity cards?
As long as we have corruption in our Pakistan, even an ISRAELI can make a Pakistani Passport. So, no need to be surprised if Abu Hamza have a Pakistani Passport.
Many will even dismiss and deny as usual with a ‘need more proof’. They do not see in the seriousness and the gravity of this attack. It will not be long before all the evidence is presented to Pakistan who will object it again. That will only leave India to forward the case to the highest Court on earth, ICC. There, once submitted, it will be the beginning to an end. Either Pakistan wakes up now with limited damage or wait for later. Going by its track records it will favor the later as seen with the GLOC with USA/NATO.
Many will even dismiss and deny as usual with a ‘need more proof’. They do not see in the seriousness and the gravity of this attack. It will not be long before all the evidence is presented to Pakistan who will object it again. That will only leave India to forward the case to the highest Court on earth, ICC. There, once submitted, it will be the beginning to an end. Either Pakistan wakes up now with limited damage now or wait for later. Going by its track records it will favor the later as seen with the GLOC with USA/NATO.
I hope one day the two nations will at least stop the violence even if they are not friendly to each other.