KOLKATA: Pakistan has not taken necessary action against Jamaatud Dawa chief Hafiz Saeed, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Monday, suspected of masterminding an attack by Pakistan-based gunmen on the Indian city of Mumbai in 2008.
“We're well aware that there has not yet been the steps taken by the Pakistani government to do what both India and the United States have repeatedly requested them they do,” Clinton said in the Indian city of Kolkata.
“And we're going to keep pushing that point. So it's a way of raising the visibility and pointing out to those who are associated with him that there is a cost for that."”
Clinton also said that the United States believes al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri is somewhere in Pakistan.
India has repeatedly called on Pakistan to bring Saeed to justice, an issue that has stood in the way of rebuilding relations between the nuclear-armed neighbours since the carnage in India's financial capital, where gunmen killed 166 people.
India is furious Pakistan has not detained Saeed, despite handing over evidence against him.
Washington has offered a reward of $10 million for information leading to Saeed's capture.
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@ factcheak, Obama has also never killed even an ant .
While I don't believe all of America's claims, I don't trust Hafiz Saeed either. He is not what he claims to be, that's for sure. I hope he stops his adventures because it is hurting Pakistan - far from benefiting it.
@Mirza: Is it a sarcastic comment dear.
Y Pakistan still couldn't frame false charge sheet against H Saeed?
Taking charity from US, depositing looted assets in US, bargaining power deals to seize govt & still not worked for US.
Act or get fired for next elections!
@goof:
True and my sympathies are with you in this dismal journey.
@Dr Priyanka: u indians r so funny why not try a comic book of yr thoughts well i can bett it will be a big success
Its high time that we take down the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in our backyard. Why do we let these remnants destroy our reputation and progress? They have nothing for us in common at all. We are Pakistan. We do not simply let foreigners dictate the terms of our citizenship in this country. So that we can take down these people, Ayman Al-Zawahiri, Saeed, Hakimullah, etc. Do you know when we go to their countries we are treated as third class citizens? I sincerely hope that the Pakistani Government can do something about it otherwise, give the Americans the information and let them do their job.
@whatta whatta: Has Saeed agreed to this? If not, please cut the crap for once.
@Khalid Javed:
She said this in India, that means she is trying to please Indians. She has to get billions of dollars of weapons order from India. Last time US buttering did not help and India gave the order to France. Lets see what will happen this time.
davis for saeed!: lets make the bargain...:P
@FactCheck. Hafiz Saeed has never killed a Pakistani, please get your facts straight before making a joke of yourself.
He has killed enough Pakistanis, what more evidence do you wnat?
@Tariq: there were 6 Americans and some jews among the victims of the Mumbai attacks. And the victims' relatives keep reminding the Americans about the unfinished jobs on the American list!Your Hafez Saeed thought that there are only Indians in that hotel, in Leopold Cafe and the Nariman house.
@Sultan Ahmed: Please can you name one known terrorist who been convicted by Pakistani court? Even those terrorist capture by Pakistan's forces.
@Ashvinn, There is no need to complain about Indian association with BLA as at the end of the day India will fail in it objective anyways....that is exactly why Pakistan points out indian involvement but rarely complains about it.
Dilemma with the USA is to please Indian and Israelis at all cost by issuing statement when visiting there country
Interestingly now India & U.S both have joined hands against Pakistan & are applying cheap pressure tactics on Pakistan to help them in there so called War on Terror... Wasn't it the same United States of America who changed their statement regarding Hafiz Saeed that "We have put bounty for the evidences given against HS & not over his head" Moreover HS has clearly invited U.S to take him if they have got guts..!
@True Muslim Paki:
Since when have madrassahs become institutions of "education"? That's a new one for the civilized world. "Madrasah'graduates" have run Pakistan down. Open your eyes, man. By siding with terrorists like Hafiz Saeed, Imran Khan will not be welcomed anywhere. But, of course, he spends a lot of time in the West where he does not mind enjoying their hospitality. Shame!
@ Vasan.. Much appreciated about your comments. It looks to me that you are doing it very dedicatedly. Good to know that you are among those well wishers of Pakistan who want to contribute in this way. There is no doubt that Hafiz is a well known terrorists without evidence, so we have to waite for Pakistan to unearth he and his gang with solid proofs. I remember correctly, he is not only one, there are thousands like him who were heros for Pakistan, Afghanistan and USA. Now, they are terrorists, no doubt that they are, as they fought the war against USSR, but they are still dealing the deadly game in and outside country.
what Pak can do now is try and capture Zawahiri (if he's in the country) and prosecute him through our own system. US should not get their hands on this one, dead or alive. If we can do that then we may regain our lost credibility after OBL incident
@Roflcopter: For you killing 160 people is no sin. Fine. So how many terrorist your court has punished? Remember they have killed more than 30000 people as per own record.
@Roflcopter: Good complain about Indian association with BLA
@Indian...Association with Kashmiri freedom fighters or Pak army is not a sin.
Hafez Saeed is a brave Pakistani National and there is no evidence against him, then way foreign GOV against him? at the time when India and Pakistan try to start he relationship USA again creating problem with these kind of blames, may be they will again attack in Mumbai and pakistan to distory this peace affords
I am surprise the remarks made by pak people regarding hafiz saeed. Instead of asking more evidence. Why don't you check his past, his association with LET and Pak Army? You will get all answers. Anyway because of this type of thinking you lost 30000 people. So how many terrorist your court has punished?
@Anonymous: "... that the evidence handed by the indians is not sufficient in a court of law" When did the lack of evidence ever stop the Pakistanis? They accuse India of meddling in Balochistan without a shred of evidence. Same goes for Mossad, KGB et al. With terrorist masterminds, you can never have clinching evidence - only circumstantial. That's because they don't ever enter the battle themselves.
United States flip-flop on Hafiz Saeed, American have conveyed a signal in which they expressed love, through proper channel,named Hilary Clinton.
Efforts are being made to make Hafiz Saeed a new flesh point between India and Pakistan after Kashmir.
There Is no other option for opening ground routs supply line to the American and NATO forces stationed in Afghanistan except pressuring the incumbent leadership in government already embattled condition.
Ms Clinton America has not taken any action against Bush responsible for 9/11 and killing hundred of thousands of innocent Muslims around the world.
@vasan, not that I agree with you but if for one second I admit Hafiz Saeed is a massive terrorist and that Pakistan courts will not convict him even if strongest evidence against him is provided by India...then why even bother with this? why does india continue to moan over this? Surely Pakistani investigators are wasting precious indian time when they visit india?
@wonderer, Qadri is still in jail even if the judge had to run. Pakistan has free courts so if you find evidence please give it to us.
Haris : The same yawn applies to the so called sacrifices of Pak in WOT including the so called 35000 lives.
@vigilant: To some extent well said....US is more with India because of its business intentions....actually it niether concerned with Pak nor India's growth....
@Anonymous: @vigilant: If you feel that the evidences handed by India are not sufficient to prove Hafiz Saeed as the mastermind of attacks then may I ask what does the Pak investigation says regarding the case where 10 citizens of it launched a terrorist attack on its neighbouring country ? My point is: Do you you guys and your govt feels any sense of responsibility regarding the mumbai terror attacks ? Thank god that India has not hit back....
@Roflcopter:
OK, if the evidence, very strong evidence, is provided against Hafiz Saeed, are you sure you can find an honorable judge who will be willing to try and convict him?
Such a judge does not exist in Pakistan. You know what happened to the Judge who convicted Qadari, the self confessed murderer of Salman Taqseer, the Governor of Punjab? He had to run away to USA with his whole extended family to save his life.
And, another important factor. The prosecuting officer of the accused is a not only a good friend of his, but is also complicit in the crime. Can you find justice in such a country?
So many admirers of Pakistani courts,Justice, Judiciary and investigations !!!. Wonder how they could forget the following 1. No of judges still in the courts who validated the military coups and NROs 2. Status of the Judge who gave the judgement for Qadri 3. No of terrorists convicted in Pakistani courts Vs No of charged terrorists released 4. Orders passed by the court to produce the missing persons in Balochistan and the govts response to that 5. Unsolved cases of high profile murders starting from Liaquat Ali to BB to Bhatti
In light of all the above and many more, Sayeed's release by the courts does not mean anything at all.
@UNofficial: Yawn bombay yawn please come up with something original and not the usual drivel your compatriots make up
@UNofficial, just because you have nightmares about Hafiz Saeed doesn't mean he's a terrorist. You must provide evidence, thank God Pakistani courts don't use conspiracy theories as evidence.
@Yaida M: "There are no terrorists in Pakistan. Only freedom fighters.**
Oh, yeah?!! Hafiz Saeed is the world's most wanted war-mongering terrorist who should be brought to justice immediately. And a country that protects such criminals also automatically becomes a terrorism-sponsoring nation. Remember: he has the lives of 165 innocent, unarmed men, women and children in Mumbai on his conscience. You may wish that Indians would forget that but, unlike in Pakistan, we have a strong public opinion (thank God, for that!).
USA should handle its rouge assets on its own and should pay for the damages they have caused to Pakistan.
Please do provide evidence against Hafiz Saeed
Next stop for US to declare PTI as a Militant Organization and IK as a terrorist. This is because both IK & Hafeez saheb have many things in common. Both are against drones, both are against US, Both provide lots of services to the common man like Hospitals and Education (Madrasa`s) and both have same idealogy.
Inshallah, these conspiracies wont work
@Haris:
No need to wonder, ET is Pakistan concerned Newspaper.
I am sure all this is to please India. What Saeed has to do with US? Why they annonced bounty?
@Anonymous: I sometimes wonder, is Express Tribune is a Pakistani-based Newspaper?
@Indian: Me too! She said that she wants to wander in India without any security. I live in the UK and I want to wander in India too. Miss my country. Mrs Clinton visits my country more often than I do! What a shocker! Ayman Zawahiri is in our neighbourhood! And pray what is he doing there? Very unpleasant news!
what Hilary is saying is fair comment by ANY standards - PAkistan has to stop harbouring terrorists ! it's as simple as that !
Its pakistans own fault to breed people like hafiz saeed. those who are supporting him are equally responsible for extremism , hatred and violence that these mullahs preach. he once said any attack on me will be attack on islam. who's hafiz saeed to this nation and islam?
@goof..
I am dying to know your country's destiny... well let me guess.. thousand cuts for India??
We must understand that She is inDia right now
to goof We are on the right track to our destiny. Now they call us a failed state. Soon we "ll prove that they are indeed right.
Cut this crap out
He is our Raymond Davis... why shouldn't we protect him?
@Kaalchakra:
India will do what it should without your advice. You still owe an unconditional apology to Kuldip Nayar. How about gathering a little courage to do that?
she is getting old.
Dear Mrs Clinton Has any action been taken against a Mr R. Davis? Your government denies paying blood-money for him. If so then he is still an unpunished murderer. Mr Saeed has been tried and found not guilty. No warrants or cases remain open against him. Stop twisting our arm and start mending your own ways first. Regards A Pakistani
Conflict building measures are being adopted deliberately to resolving the hidden designs,'' opening of ground supply routs '' to the United States and Nato forces ,stationed in Afghanistan.
hi Hilarious , have you got 'evidence' for which you announced bounty?
By killing of hundred of thousand innocent people in Iraq,you have violated the international law.They were not responsible for the incident of world Trade Center..they were deprived of freedom.They are still facing aggressor's designs.
Weapons of mass destruction were not recovered from their stockpile as allegation leveled against them.International court of justice is still silent spectator on this historic carnage and heinous crime committed by you.
As for as Hafiz Saeed is concerned,he was tried in Pakistani court but no allegation was proved against him. He was innocent really innocent.
In fact,you have hidden resolves behind the scene,opening of ground routs is your first preference but you are talking about other issues for pressuring Pakistani leadership.
On Salala outpost,we have lost our 24 beloved soldiers ,and you offer no apology,is unacceptable, absolutely unacceptable.
aoa...madam clinton is quite right that all anti-humans like hafiz saeed and azawahiri are safe here in our society which is based on the values and doctrine"do everything against humanity", kindly don't start advocacy for such wild-barbaric creature like hafiz saeed and azwahiri who have killed innocent people more then western powers.shame on such outlaws like the above mentioned terrorists, who equip innocent children with bombs and guns instead of books and computers.
And don't forget Hilary Clinton you shall face the most worst ever consequences in Afghanistan if you take any wrongful/negative steps against Pakistan in any forms and manifestations because the whole Pakistani nation has been fully aware of your hidden and harmful intentions about Pakistan and the whole Pakistani nation shall stand against you and any possible and easily accessible tactics may be used against you by the whole Pakistani nation in the future in case of your any wrongful/negative steps against Pakistan.Please keep your eyes off Pakistan and Pakistani nation.
She thinks he is here but I am sure he is in US near or in White house, brought out during election year and then put back on the shelve near deceleration of independence.
I love these phrases - Indian city of Mumbai, Indian city of Kolkata. :)
Grapes are sour. This lady was in Pakistan a year back and from her talks she sounded a close alley of Pakistan. Now she is in India and doing the same. A real Fox
This is unfair bullying without any basis whatsoever. US and India want to find some excuse to go after one of Pakistan's most respectable and outstanding charity workers! Why doesnt the US take action against Colin Powell and India go after their head of military???
Our country refuses to become an emulation of your desires. We have our own destiny.
Like I said earlier carrot didn't work, now bullying is the way to go.
c'mon...if we do then u r not happy n attack, if we dont then u r nt happy n attack..just attack na why u need lame xcuses?
I would bet my entire wealth, both earned and inhereted.... Pakistan would not take action. Any one ready to bet against me (saying Pakistan would take some/any action). Rgds P
More trouble for Pakistan, another Abbotabad type operation on the cards.
why pak never asked for any evidence when U.S accused OBL and attacked a whole brother nation in neighbors and pak now asks for evidence when U.S accused Hafiz saeed....
shows how loyal and dear Hafiz saeed is to status quo forces and sacred cows of pakistan ! No threat!
Stop playing pressure tactics
Why action! He is on protected status.
Bring the evidence and you can have him Ms. Clinton. The notion of innocent until proved otherwise doesn't apply to him? continue your india pandering since you want to sell them 100 billion worth of weapons.
CIA involved.
Another episode is being prepared to stage a big attack on Pakistan. This time raid could be somewhere in Balochistan. My dear nation fellows be ready for a major conflict between 2012 - 2014.
A typically biased western article. it fails to mention that the evidence handed by the indians is not sufficient in a court of law. secondly, the americans have offered a bounty on information that leads to a conviction, not capture. if india has that sort of evidence, they are idiots for not claiming the $10million bounty.
The Tribune should refrain from publishing articles from Reuters as is.
She said it before about Osama Bin Laden and was right and will be right again but its not her being a genius but any ones solid guess. Only our revered “number one” thinks the entire world is full of fools.
Arm twisting continues to pressurize Pakistan to open NATO supply route
India is happy now....& will buy a lot of arms from u
Another OBL like attack in pipeline....
There are no terrorists in Pakistan. Only freedom fighters.
She should take all of them to the INDEPENDENT JUDICIARY of this country and ask PUNJAB LAW MINISTER to expedite the case for her.
what i think he is dead or in your custody or he must have changed his face.
Ms. Clinton, stop playing power games, US has to answer why it killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis? can anyone ask for heads of US intelligence chief who master minded that operation.
and then you wonder why we have anti US sentiment in Pak. Stop hypocrisy!
Not again Mrs. Clinton, not again. We thought that after killing OBL (our biggest asset) without giving us any head money you would forget about the little fish but much to our chagrin you have good memory. Hafiz Saeed is the darling of our rightwing parties and a strategic asset that we could use against India at will. We are not going to do anything against him on our own. May be a drone can find him some day? Sorry we do not have the often repeated excuse that OBL was created by the US, Hafiz Saeed is pure Pakistani in every sense of the word! We cannot think of any good excuse right now.