Mad dogs and laal topiwallahs

Published: April 2, 2012
The writer is a partner at Bhandari, Naqvi & Riaz and an advocate of the Supreme Court. The writer can be reached on Twitter @laalshah. The views presented in the article above are not those of his firm

The writer is a partner at Bhandari, Naqvi & Riaz and an advocate of the Supreme Court. The writer can be reached on Twitter @laalshah. The views presented in the article above are not those of his firm

The good thing about a free judiciary is, duh, that it’s free. The bad thing about a free judiciary is that it becomes the refuge of last resort for every idiot with a cause.

The latest of these crusaders is one Zaid Hamid, self-described as the “Founding President of an Internationally Recognised Threat Analysis Consultancy and Defence Think Tank.” On March 27, 2012, he announced triumphantly that he had filed a petition in the Supreme Court seeking the death penalty for a number of journalists as well as the South Asian Free Media Association (SAFMA).

Mr Hamid’s basis for seeking the death penalty against eleven different people is his firm belief that they are involved in “nefarious activities”, hence guilty of treason and hence liable to be put to death.

More specifically, what the petition says is this: (1) “If the ideology of Pakistan is destroyed, the entire State of Pakistan will then automatically crumbles [sic] and cease to exist; (2) SAFMA is attacking the ideology of Pakistan by “projecting the father of the nation as a secular leader”; (3) In addition, SAFMA is “a covert operation of Indian establishment and RAW”; (4) The Federal Government should lodge an FIR under the High Treason (Act), 1973 so that the various SAFMA members can be prosecuted and punished (presumably with the death penalty); and, (5) the Supreme Court should listen to Mr Hamid because he is, inter alia, “an internationally known … analyst” and because the Jordanian Strategic Study Institute named him as one of the 500 most influential living Muslims.

Legally and logically, the petition is rubbish. To begin with, critical analysis will not lead to the physical disintegration of Pakistan. Pakistan has been criticised ever since its birth; it has yet to disappear let alone “automatically crumble”. In any event, we no longer live in a world in which it is possible to wall off all criticism: unless you live in North Korea, those days are over.

Secondly, saying that the Quaid was secular is not treasonous. Not only was Jinnah far from being an orthodox Muslim but he explicitly disavowed a purely religious identity for Pakistan in his famous speech to the Constituent Assembly on August 11, 1947.

Thirdly, the contention that SAFMA is a covert operation of the Indian secret intelligence services is laughable. If Mr Hamid knows about SAFMA’s covert status, so too does the ISI. Is Mr Hamid then accusing the ISI and the Armed Forces of Pakistan of deliberately ignoring an entity that is being funded/guided by RAW? Why is Mr Hamid taking his suspicions to the Supreme Court rather than to the DG ISI? Is it because the spooks know him to be a moron?

Fourthly, inclusion on the list of the 500 most influential living Muslims means nothing. Had Mr Hamid actually read the introduction to the publication, he would have noticed that the book itself makes it very clear that Islam encompasses a diversity of beliefs and that “influence” is by no means to be confused with rightness.

For example, the same publication also lists Mullah Mohammad Omar and Ayman Al Zawahiri as amongst the 500. Should all Pakistanis join al Qaeda as a consequence of this recognition? I don’t think so.

To take another example, the list of 500 includes Mir Shakil ur Rahman, owner of the Jang Group. The Jang Group is one of the main sponsors of the peace initiative called “Aman ki Asha.” The petition filed by Mr Hamid alleges that the objective of “Aman ki Asha” is to destroy Pakistan. Clearly, the honour of being one of the 500 most influential Muslims is no basis on which to determine the truth or falsity of anything.

At this point, the petition in question has yet to be accepted for hearing, let alone fixed. This is because the Supreme Court sometimes tends to deal with really stupid petitions by stashing them away in some back corner till everybody involved has either succumbed to old age or lost interest. But is that really good enough?

Not in my view. A petition asking that somebody be put to death, no matter how absurd, is still a document on which action can be taken. As we have seen in the Asghar Khan case, petitions can rise from the dead even after decades.

More importantly, the accusations being made by Mr Hamid are no laughing matter. While Pakistan has increasingly adopted freedom of speech as a core value, nobody has sympathy for RAW agents. To accuse somebody of being an Indian agent is therefore, a deliberate attempt to short-circuit all critical thinking and instead provoke a violent response.

One contrary argument is that SAFMA and the others should sue Mr Hamid for defamation. Unfortunately, while SAFMA has already filed suit against Mr Hamid for earlier allegations, the fact is that trials in Pakistan tend to be a joke. By the time any result ever emerges, and by the time the inevitable appeals are adjudicated, the issue and the controversy are long dead. For all that it is worth, we may as well not have a law of defamation.

The petition therefore does not deserve to be let alone: instead, it deserves to be dismissed with penal costs. The petition is not only an abuse of judicial process but a deliberate attempt to intimidate every person who does not agree with Mr Hamid. Indeed, Mr Hamid has made his intentions very clear, announcing that everybody who is not with him is a “SAFMA snake” whose name will be added to the “list of traitors” and that every word “barked” by such traitors will “become the hanging rope around [their] necks.”

So long as this petition remains even theoretically alive, it will continue to poison the intellectual atmosphere of Pakistan. What is at stake here is not just freedom of the press but the freedom of every Pakistani to think critically. It is a freedom that the Supreme Court must defend, if only to put petty bullies like Mr Hamid in their proper place.

Published in The Express Tribune, April 3rd, 2012.

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Reader Comments (143)

  • Baloch Youth
    Apr 2, 2012 - 11:35PM

    I am just disappointed by the media for giving Zaid Hamid so much attention. He gets more airtime on television than any leader from Balochistan (Baloch, Pashtoon or Hazara).

    Makes me wonder, is Balochistan worth any attention?


  • marzook
    Apr 2, 2012 - 11:55PM

    ”Mad dogs and laal topiwallahs” very unfortunate to see how Mr editior has allowed this article to be published with such a nonsense and un ethical Title.If this is because you want to prove your liberal,secular credentials and want to uphoald the principle of freedom of speech ,then i must say Shame on such credentials. No matter to what ideology,race,religion or school of thought Zaid belongs to but using a word like DOG just shows how Secular these so-called seculars are in our country.Recommend

  • Zahil Hamid
    Apr 2, 2012 - 11:58PM

    the worried part is that lot of people in Pakistan are taking him seriously. He had spoken blatant lie on TV and incited violence against minorities. Media should unanimously decide to “boycott” him. Recommend

  • Falcon
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:00AM

    I am surprised you chose to spend so much energy on the workings of a delusional mind.


  • Ali Tanoli
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:05AM

    @Baloch youth
    u guys are becoming like a god chosen come on man just try to change your self with out govt supportand and stop litsning and supporting those Nawabs and feudals.


  • Mustafa Moiz
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:09AM

    @Zahil Hamid:
    Yes but people also take Feisal Naqvi seriously, so I guess it evens out.


  • Falcon
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:11AM

    I think you have misunderstood the author. He in fact is referring to statements made by Zaid Hamid (where he has accused others of being barking traitors).


  • Truth hurts
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:13AM

    Why are all these members of Begeirat Brigade in Pakistan targeting Zaid Hamid? He is a patriot Pakistani and points out the deeds of Indians! Instead of writing such a foolish and biased article, you should rather write an article about bal thackeray in India!


  • Taabi
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:17AM

    “the fact is that trials in Pakistan tend to be a joke”
    I wonder what kind of “advocate” the righter is.


  • Apr 3, 2012 - 12:27AM

    So You calling intentionally recognized anal-yst a liar??
    When did he lie?
    Did he lie about the Sakeena biwi, the Muslim woman who lives as a Sikh in India, Story? Sounds like Gadar, ain’t it?
    Did he lie that Pakistani will be on moon in 5 years ( 4 years already passed)?
    Did he lie that Azmal Kasab was Amar Singh and the other terrorist was Heera Laal. He got the information from his Indian sources. He recognized their “hinduon wali shaklen”.
    Did he lie that in 1965 war ghosts fought from Pakistan’s side?
    Did he lie that he was the follower of Yusuf Kazaab?
    Did he lie about his sources, Google and You Tube?
    Did he lie that it was not USA, not more than 50 other countries but Pakistan which defeated Russia on its own?
    Did he lie that he was a Afghan Jihad mujahid, though there is only one photo of him (that too doubtful) from the war era?
    Did he lie that he is an internationally accalimed author and still he sells his book through one student in UK and looking for other burger-jihadis to sell his book in Europe?
    Did he lie that he hates Riba based paper currency systems, yet he sells his Dvds and books online and accepts all kind of credit cards (no gold asharfis for Calipha Zaid Hamid)?
    Did he lie that he always wears laal topi because he is getting bald?

    Answer me, or I will call you traitor, Snake, RAW agent, Secularist (is that an abuse, by the way?).


  • ATIF
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:30AM

    Truth is always bitter, no wonder SAFMA PIGS cannot digest Sir Zaid Zaman Hamid Sahib. Recommend

  • ali qasmi
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:36AM

    inna lil’lahay wa inna ilayhay rajeoon

    i am extremely disappointed at express tribune for publishing such an unethical article which is directly attacking an individual…. is that what u call media? or u guys are getting ur funds from abroad..

    i can bet my life on it if i would write such an article which is against SAFMA … this forum will never ever publish it.

    the initiative taken by zaid hamid is 101% logical and correct. media has to be held accountable … it has gone beyond its limits.

    spreading disinformation provincialism confusion lies propaganda sectarianism hopelessness secularism fear and what not… our children are no more ours… we have gone far away from our religion…

    is that what media is for?

    zaid hamid should sue express tribune tooRecommend

  • Amjad
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:36AM

    i am NOT at all one tiny bit fan of zaid Hamid lets be clear about it.. but this is NOT the way for a newspaper to can you allow such an article “mad dog n lal topiwallahs” .. shame on you and this guy should be sued as soon as possible by any lal topi wallah not just zaid hamid..

    you put us to shame by writing this. you disagree but you cannot write such things for public readings..

    i object and i boycott ET


  • Adeel Syed
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:39AM

    I think we should not boycott him. He provides much need entertainment. LOL


  • Apr 3, 2012 - 12:57AM


    It is safe to label the Red Hat as a “Mad Dog”. How about names like Syed Shahi or Dr Mirza?

    Are they not sowing discord between different ethnic groups? Or someone who had wowed to turn River Indus red? And did it.

    Red Hat, barks only but can he bite, howsoever much his words may be despicable? Can you count the number of dead bodies due to the poppycock he spews and compare it with that of the other gentlemen?


  • Waqas Siddiqui
    Apr 3, 2012 - 1:04AM

    well….so much pain…I want to thank Zaid sab for giving such pain to these liberals. We the youth of this nation endorse this petition, and we will kick out this SAFMA dog out of this world.Recommend

  • Khan Jr
    Apr 3, 2012 - 1:10AM

    If memory serves me correct, this is the very same Zahid Hamid who was closely involved in a blasphemy case where he had publicly supported some nutter who had declared himself to be a prophet or something similar. After that ZH hid under a rock for a period of years before his latest reemergence.


  • Its (still) Econonmy Stupid
    Apr 3, 2012 - 1:19AM

    A very senior person told me that you can gather people by declaring either religion or nation is in danger by wrapping oneself in national flag or holding the religious book. The petition is nothing but to generate crowd of followers under the banner nation is in danger from whatever (RAW, SAFMA) is the flavor of the month. When a country lacks vision for its meaning for existence and future the vacuum gets filled with these nonsense petitions. If these nationalist have any vision for the country they should come up with a five year plan where at the end of the term country will have no terrorist camp, plenty of power, employment, foreign currency reserve and respect around the world. It is easy to scream when you are not in charge of governing the country as words are cheap and you are not accountable in the global village. One way to make this petitioner wise will be to send him to India for pilgrimage with the President or as deep throat said “follow the money”.


  • munchkin bob
    Apr 3, 2012 - 1:38AM

    the title shows that “hate” is a common factor here. a progressive and widely-read daily like tribune should be cautious with what it is publishing


  • Lone Star
    Apr 3, 2012 - 1:43AM

    Very well articulated Mr. Feisal H Naqvi. I truly find Zaid Hamid a scarey person. I think the real traiters are Zaid Hamid and Hamid Gul kinds.


  • SalSal
    Apr 3, 2012 - 1:56AM

    Stop this media uproar and targeting of Zaid Hamid. This media doesn’t target the rudeness and blatant disregard for Pakistans ideology and constituion by Marvi Sirmed. Why do u guys hate him so much? If he’s a BIG JOKE then why does media waste it’s money and time and space to writing articles against him?
    Btw haven’t all of you seen pictures of Asma Jahangir visiting that rogue Bal Thackery terrorist? Zaid Hamid used to speak about her acts and he turned out to be true. Well done Zaid Hamid by going to the court.


  • Syed Ali Hadi
    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:19AM

    Once a buzurgh said “If you dont know about the Haq, then see the arrows of the enemies. Where the arrows are going, there is Haq. Who dont know that India is our enemy? Who dont know that Israel and CIA, RAW is our enemy. There is no doubt. And all of them are against Zaid Hamid and our ideology and our founding fathers. So if we speak against our fore fathers, two nation theory, Army, ISI, then what is the diff b/w us and our enemies???????


  • M Musab
    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:29AM

    Oh wow so now this Feisal H Naqvi guy has proved yet again why newspapers like Express Tribune are nothing but trash where anyone and everyone who can take out time to write 7 paras in English can get their writings published. First of all Feisal lost his argument and his cover of being a good lawyer by the caption he used. Is this the best word that came to you Mr-OH-MY-GOD-I-AM-THE-BEST-LAWYER-IN-THIS-COUNTRY !!!! Weren’t you taught at law school to win by arguments. It would’ve been nice if you would’ve also given the online link to the complete petition instead of quoting a line from here and one from there to prove a point which no one can even see. Logically this newspaper and this article is rubbish because the article is full of hatred. Let the SC decide upon merit, why’re you afraid, Mr. Syed Zaid Hamid Sahab add this man’s name too to that list please. Not one follower of Syed Sahab will use these words for you not because you don’t deserve them but because he talks on facts which hurt people like you. Let the court decide who Quaid was. Syed Sahab has done a great job and saved your skins from public bashing by taking you to a decent forum and giving you a chance to fight. Recommend

  • true_blue_pakistani
    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:41AM

    Zaid Hamid is true patriotic Pakistani, Moin Ansari Rupeenews also. What is wrong if they are funded by ISI?


  • Ali Wazir
    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:47AM

    Where as the current case is juvenile. Our Media definitely needs of improvement. Its prone to spreading half truths,discord and character assassination. Its editorial standards are by an large appalling. Investigative journalism apart from half a dozen or so journalist are non existent. The proportion of “Pundits” “experts” and “analyst” ever increasing.

    I would not be surprised if its revealed that foreign funding and direction sways section of the Pakistani media. Foreign Corporation do indeed control increasingly large swatches of the Pakistani press, its likely and debatable wether this effects editorial judgements .

    CNBC Group(CNBC Pakistan, SAMAA). Express Media Group, Even DAWN and JANG have received foreign funding one way or the other.
    TASEER media group (Daily times, Friday times, Good Times, City 42,Pakmedia watch) also has received $$$ injections in one way or the other.
    ( funnelled through NGO,USAID projects, “Scholar ships” to journalist,Awards etc etc)

    This definitely is a serious problem.

    Other internal powers also actively buy media coverage. The sheer number of “News Channels” and the 100 or so current affairs programmes means most station run on loss as corporate advertising alone cannot cover cost(covers less then 70 %). The cost are covered through other means.

    Our government free plots, free hajj packages are also well known. The ISI i am sure also buys off journalist,as do political parties.Other Political entities being cheapskates(MQM,and other militant outfits) resorts to threats of violence which are unusually effective with the Pakistani media.

    This is hardly a conspiracy its easily accessible facts.

    As for ZH, though I dont agree with much he says and suspect he may not be completely sane , but the level of rabid Hysteria and hostility he arouses in some circles is very curious. They are lot more crazier people allowed on TV, who have actual blood on their hands.

  • Mirza
    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:55AM

    I agree with the author 100%. This type of cases should not even be accepted for hearing in any court of law let alone in SC. This man can be tolerated due to freedom of speech but he is using and abusing the religion and spitting hatred. Defaming and mis-using religion is nothing to ignore and must be dealt harshly. More power to your pen FN, thanks


  • umair
    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:58AM

    The whole article is nothing but a biased hatred towards one person. If this is called the freedom of speech, then I must apprecite Mr Hamid for standing against this intellectual terrorism. He is a legend !


  • Disappointed
    Apr 3, 2012 - 3:11AM

    Down with the Bighairath Brigade!!
    Their only agenda us to spread disinformation and hate and the rest into baighairath like them! But I’m not so rude to call them DOGS. Dont need to come down to their level.


  • Hassan
    Apr 3, 2012 - 3:26AM

    I think the problem with Muslims today is that they follow people and not the message. Whoever states that two nation theory is a figment of our imagination is presenting a gross misrepresentation of history.


  • Apr 3, 2012 - 3:56AM

    Mr. Naqvi,
    As an ardent supporter of animal rights, I’m appalled at your callous insults to mad dogs.


  • Muhammad Ali Shan
    Apr 3, 2012 - 4:11AM

    I felt pitty and felt sorry at the same time. Such a disregard and disrespect for Pakistan and the people who luv Pakistan so much. The writter is basically mad of the situation that there are people on this very earth who still believes that everything happening on this earth is because of reason. Pakistan was made to achieve a destiny. It was not made for distruction. We, the patriots of Pakistan, do not support SAFMA propaganda of defaming Islam. We believe that there was alot of struggle from our great Quaid-e-Azam (RA) and the ideological founder of Pakistan, the Allama Iqbal (RA). The foundation of Pakistan is based solely on Two Nation Theory. We support Pakistan Resolution. We do not care about these ‘2 takke ke log’, such people did exist in our past but Pakistan remained. Even if they are in thousands, we still are strong because ALLAH (SWT) wished the creation of PAKISTAN.

    Listen, all you losers….’EK TERI CHAHAT HAI, aur ek mere ALLAH ke chahat hai, hona wohi hai jo mere ALLAH ke chahat hai’

    Our of nowhere, Pakistan came into being and INSHA ALLAH it is not going anywhere.

    Zaid Hamid, you are doing a great job. We, the patriots of Pakistan are with you. Let the time come and we pray to Almighty ALLAH that we are not going to forgive you this time. Enough is enough now.


  • Apr 3, 2012 - 4:15AM


    such a nonsense and un ethical Title.If this is because you want to prove your liberal,secular credentials and want to uphoald the principle of freedom of speech ,then i must say Shame on such credentials.

    I don’t understand your point. Dog is a secular animal, so the secular/liberal writer used god in the title. In your view, would a non-secular animal be more appropriate for the title — are you saying, he should have used “pig”, since pigs are reviled in Islam?


  • Haris Chaudhry
    Apr 3, 2012 - 4:24AM

    I condone the very appropriate title of this article. For those criticising the article and ET, perhaps review the points Naqvi is raising in all objectivity and assess how it infringes on our liberty and on the worth of human life.

    Seeking death penalties for fellow nationals on the mere suspicion that their viewpoint is different to ours is a ‘mad’ and ‘crazy’ thing to do.

    Seeking to label others as traitors, indian agents, american spies and american sponsored papers is what is called as “Playing the man, not the ball”.

    It is akin to secular liberals filing a petition in the Supreme Court to seek death sentences of those that deny truth and question the authenticity of the role of Ajmal Kasab and Hafiz Saeed in killing of hundreds of innocent people. Or how about calling for death sentences that label Seculars and objective people as CIA agents..

    @ Ali Tnaoli: You need to either stop posting comments that no one can understand or start using some grammar or structure to your sentence so at least we understand what you actually mean… At the moment, majority of your comments come across as ‘waffling’ and without any meaning..


  • Arijit Sharma
    Apr 3, 2012 - 4:26AM

    Question to my Pakistani friends – what is Sir Zaid Zaman Hamid’s ethnicity ?


  • BushraS
    Apr 3, 2012 - 4:47AM

    A well-articulated piece Mr Naqvi. Zaid Hamid and Co. are also viciously campaigning against SAFMA through mass emails. Sad that space for critical and free thinkers is decreasing in Pakistan with passing time.


  • Nida
    Apr 3, 2012 - 5:13AM

    These comments supporting a bigot like Zaid Hamid make me not want to live anymore..


  • Ayesha Khan
    Apr 3, 2012 - 5:19AM

    @marzook: “No matter to what ideology,race,religion or school of thought Zaid belongs to but using a word like DOG just shows how Secular these so-called seculars are in our country.”

    So he can call very reputable journalists snakes and accuse them of treason and also of being funded by RAW with a mission to destroy Pakistan. HE can also issue open death threats. HE does that without any real proof (what his you tube videso show as proof is just laughable). But dismissing such absurd allegations by calling him a mad dog is not OK? Why the double standards?


  • Ayesha Khan
    Apr 3, 2012 - 5:21AM

    @Falcon: “I am surprised you chose to spend so much energy on the workings of a delusional mind.”

    I agree with you that he is a deluded mind. But if you go to his U-tube video uploads or his facebook pages, it is obvious that he has a following. It is therefore important to prevent young kids from being misled by providing an alternative perspective..


  • gp65
    Apr 3, 2012 - 5:31AM

    @Falcon: “I am surprised you chose to spend so much energy on the workings of a delusional mind.”

    As delusional as he is, see the number of people who totally believe him on the comment section of this OpEd itself. Maybe 9 out of 10 will not change their minds. But even if one person is persuaded by Faisal’s logic, it would have been well worth the effort. Also people Like Asma Jahangir, Najam Sethi, Nusrat Javed , Hasan Nisar who keep critical thinking alive in the country need to know that there are people that support them as well.


  • Mohammad Saleem Lashari
    Apr 3, 2012 - 6:30AM

    If you understand the title, you will never comment.

    Mad Dogs (Feisal H Naqvi & like minded people) and laal topiwallahs (Zaid Hamid & his group).


  • Amir Wayn
    Apr 3, 2012 - 6:32AM

    It looks like someone press the tail of the snake and it hurts alot. And ripple effect can be felt by other mates. Recommend

  • Zakir
    Apr 3, 2012 - 7:55AM

    This article reflects the immaturity of Pakistan’s media. Nothing except verbal bashing and abusive language. And you call yourself civilized Mr. Lawyer? The only person barking here is you.
    No I wont call u a dog. No need to stoop down to your low level.


  • Balma
    Apr 3, 2012 - 7:58AM

    At the risk of being edited out, I would like to mention that Express Tribune is part of the ‘shaping of heart and minds’ of Muslims: a scheme started by President Bush


  • Hafeez
    Apr 3, 2012 - 8:13AM

    @Zaid Hamid:
    I thoroughly enjoyed this list. I am amused at the commentators here who do not recognize Zaid Hamid for his role as an advocate of Yusuf Kazab. How come these guys don’t see this hate spewing red-topi.Recommend

  • Falcon
    Apr 3, 2012 - 8:23AM

    @Muhammad Ali Shan:
    May God give thousand years worth of life and prosperity to Pakistan. My only contention is that Love of Zaid Hamid = Love of Pakistan is a wrong assumption. He might be a sincere patriot but his source of information is almost always questionable.


  • Noor
    Apr 3, 2012 - 8:43AM

    Oh wow iam surprised to see how many people commented in favor of ZH , i would say after watching some episodes of brass tacks i too got emotionally charged but now this article makes more sense to me then Mr ZH we have other important things to focus on rather than putting people to death on account of their being RAW agents , I mean we have a great amount of budget going to army and ISI kindly let them take care of this matter we are paying such high price for sustaining these institutions they need to be accountable and are responsible of protecting Pakistan from RAw and its propaganda. As far as foreign funding of media is concerned its just business for them , if our politicians can be sold then why not media which only understands the language of money. My request to all my fellows kindly dont follow media or for tht matter any “recognized analyst” blindly use your own grey matter once in a while.Recommend

  • Muzaffar
    Apr 3, 2012 - 8:49AM

    Faisal Naqvi needs to spend time to explain what he did in Kishanganga Dam case……refer to extract appended below….(by the way this does not mean I am defending Zahid Hamid …my point is to first be upright to be able to criticize anyone else…….

    DAWN – June 26, 2010 “A team that failed Pakistan against India on one front cannot be expected to win on another front,” a legal expert said. A few years ago, Prof Crawford and his team, comprising Barrister Samuel Wordsworth and Faisal Hussain Naqvi, lost Pakistan`s case on the Baglihar project which, according to the expert, was “legally and technically a strong case for this country and should have been a piece of cake”……………..

    The documents show that while the debate centred on making a choice between Prof Crawford and Pr Kaikobad, the pleadings in the Baglihar case had been largely prepared Mr Naqvi who, according to an official, is not known for expertise and experience in matters pertaining to water disputes……………..


  • imran
    Apr 3, 2012 - 9:51AM

    “Express Tribune” please allow me to use all abusive words I will be really thankful. Recommend

  • Abdul Jabbar
    Apr 3, 2012 - 10:01AM

    @Abid P. Khan: Instead of these two people, I would rather you add Waseem Akhtar, haider Rizvi, “Madhuri”(who is awaiting death sentence), FArooq Sattar etc etc etc…


  • PakiKaka
    Apr 3, 2012 - 10:04AM

    Great article mr Naqvi… please don’t be discouraged by your detractors here. If you see the time at which those negative comments here are posted, you will realise they have all been posted at the same time, which means same person (perhaps belonging to the mad dog hamid’s think tank) used different names and posted all those comments. bravo for this article… but please don’t ask for neutralizing zaid hamid… he provides us much needed comic relief…


  • imran
    Apr 3, 2012 - 10:06AM

    I personally have objection with “freedom of speech”. Freedom of speech should be for those who respect others freedom of speech and liberty. All religious parties and mad analysts(like Zahid Hamid) do not fell under this criteria, hence a strong scrutiny of State and media censorship is needed. Those analysts and commentators and students confused with meaning of these liberties should read “On Liberty by J.S, Mills” who without any ambiguity called for a revolt against the people who want to snatch the freedom of others in the name of religion or any other superiority.


  • sars
    Apr 3, 2012 - 10:30AM

    Agree with content but its not appropriate for the learned writer to call anyone a “mad dog’ (or allude to it). Even if the person in question is possibly not compos mentis or is delusional or just very imaginative. Its just bad taste and worse manners.

    Society learns from your articles and will get the message that this is appropriate labelling.


  • Pollack
    Apr 3, 2012 - 10:35AM

    @Zaid Hamid: “Sir” Zaid Hamid, you rock!! Hahahaha. I am rolling on my bed with laughter.


  • samir
    Apr 3, 2012 - 10:39AM

    @ Arjit Sharma he is a loyal and patriotic PAKISTANI ,and dont question his loyalty


  • Zhahid Hamid
    Apr 3, 2012 - 10:41AM

    @Mr. Musab Quaid: Quaid was Shia Muslims since 1896. Before this date he was an “Ismaili” In his life he never remain an orthodox Muslim. He never want theocracy, on thing is sure.


  • Rana Amjad
    Apr 3, 2012 - 10:45AM

    Zaid Hamid is mentally unstable! I do not take him seriously at all.


  • Pollack
    Apr 3, 2012 - 10:49AM

    @Hassan: All theories are figments of our imagination until it is proven to be a fact or otherwise by reality. Some theories stand the test of time and get proven under various scenarios but some other theories just crash and burn when it meets reality. so which category does the two nation theory belong to in your opinion?


  • Wellwisher
    Apr 3, 2012 - 11:21AM

    I am glad to see a lot of ppl disillusioning Mr Zaid Hamid and that is the right thing to do. He is nothing but a bag of nonsense.


  • Raza
    Apr 3, 2012 - 11:43AM

    Constitution of Pakistan does not allow to officially,publicly denounce Ideology of Pakistan,its founding fathers, two nation theory, ridicule Judiciary,security institutions.
    So neutrally,realistically speaking that opinions of Zaid Hamid or Feisal H Naqvi would not count, let the constitution of Pakistan decide it.


  • Saif M
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:03PM

    I agree, the Supreme Court should reject this petition with costs. But will it?


  • osama
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:09PM

    We are hitting exactly where it hurts the most… SAFMA puppies are crying with pain….. Its just the start….


  • cat
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:15PM

    Reference is to ‘Mad Dogs and Englishmen’. In a free society, various and conflicting opinions will and should be aired. Diversity is the beauty of Pakistan, lets recognise and accept diversity but within the law. If the lawyers do not respect the law, we can only seek All Merciful’s Mercy.


  • jagjit sidhoo
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:24PM

    @Zaid Hamid:As usual g8


  • Uzair
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:50PM

    I think calling absolutely insane, delusional, and power-hungry people “dog” is an extreme insult to dogs everywhere. Author should apologize!
    And for all those defending Zaid “insane” Hamid here, stop smoking whatever it is you are smoking, it is obviously affecting your perception of reality.


    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:54PM

    strong textstrong text
    by reading ur column i can understand who is dog…


  • SherGIll
    Apr 3, 2012 - 12:58PM

    I think your this type of abusive attitude make people fan of Sir Zaid Hamid sahab! Zaid Hamid is now the only strategical and spiritual leader of the youth of Pakistan. You people taking funds from RAW will soon finished InshaAllah!


  • Dr Shabbir Hussain
    Apr 3, 2012 - 1:41PM

    another SAFMA funded article ..good:-) its shows Zaid hamid already won once SAFMA feeling threat


  • shahzad
    Apr 3, 2012 - 1:44PM

    What a shame to see a newspaper publishing such articles . Media is not working for the betterment of the nation . I also think the media sud be controlled and with in its limits .. MEDIA plz dont be dictator ….


  • shahzad
    Apr 3, 2012 - 1:45PM

    I think the media is afraid of the lal topi wala :P


  • Ayaz Toor
    Apr 3, 2012 - 1:59PM

    This is SAFMA’s ethics and free media policy? showing with this unethical Title…
    think what you SAFMA people are doing and against whom…


  • ather
    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:13PM

    support for zaid hamid and hamid mir. they are true patriotic pakistani. i think safma is an indian spy organization to weaken the moral of pakistanis.


  • Hassan
    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:13PM

    I got my disagreements with Zahid Hamid but this article is totally biased, irrational, illogical and stupid. portrays nothing Recommend

  • Adeel Ahmed
    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:14PM

    No where in that speech did the Quaid say that religion/Islam will never be an integral part in Pakistan or that Pakistan will be a secular state. In fact, he is talking about how minorities were treated by the Prophet PBUH (taking him as an example, rather than King Akbar)…

    Why is the writer trying to confuse the readers… ?


  • waqar
    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:18PM

    Dear reader there are many other speeches of Quaid-e-Azam in which he had said that Quran and Sunnah is the only way by which we can make Pakistan a prosperous country.


  • R.Khan
    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:31PM

    Zaid Hamid must be given his medications on time otherwise he might hurt himself & others!


  • IZ
    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:37PM

    A lot of people on this thread need to go back to school and improve their reading comprehension…


    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:39PM

    we love SYED ZAID HAMID SB .. great leader


  • Umair
    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:41PM

    Epic Fail: The author refers to the speech of 11th August but provides the link to 14th August speech of Quaid-e-Azam. So much professionalism. * clapping *
    And what about the speech of Quaid when he said ‘Pakistan to be based on Islamic Socialism, NOT any other ISM’ ?


  • Parvez
    Apr 3, 2012 - 2:42PM

    Reading the comments mostly of misguided people speaking in favour of this ‘ mischief monger ‘ simply re-enforces your argument that this case must be heard and dismissed with appropriate censure. I agree that a serious responsibility rests on the shoulders of the Superior Court to do what is right.


  • elementary
    Apr 3, 2012 - 3:13PM

    @Falcon: Not only is his source questionable, his usually violent action on such information is even more questionable.


  • khalid
    Apr 3, 2012 - 3:20PM

    i feel this debate regarding whether jinnah wanted pakistan to a secular state or not is rubbish
    Quaid e azam wanted pakistan to be a democratic state which upholds it’s islamic values.


  • Abuturab Sahibzada
    Apr 3, 2012 - 3:55PM

    I think Mr zaid had not sued SAFMA had they not sued him first. Wonder why has Zaid Hamid not got any freedom of speech while SAFMA and its journalists have all the rights to hurt as many ppl as they want.
    Well done Zaid Hamid. You are a sharp arrow in the hearts of Wehshi Molvis and dumb secularists.


  • Jhingalala
    Apr 3, 2012 - 3:59PM

    Zaid Hamid is an asset of Pakistan. He brigns smiles to peoples faces while making those geo-poloitical jokes.


  • amlendu
    Apr 3, 2012 - 4:03PM

    I second your thought. It is extremely cruel to dogs even the mad ones that they are being compared to Zaid HamidRecommend

  • ahsan jahangir
    Apr 3, 2012 - 4:06PM

    Shame on you express tribune, dont you know how to run a newspaper? Mad dogs and laal topi wala? I wonder how stupid would be the editor of the newspaper to allows such thing. Its not about Zaid Hamid being right or wrong, its about the credibility of the newspaper. Extremely disappointed Express Tribune. Sad! You allows any stupid person to write such crap and then you publish it.


  • Awais Shah
    Apr 3, 2012 - 4:20PM

    Nice attempt Mr. Editor….

    Rationalism has become a disaster for our nation. It must be thrown away from our country as well as people like Zain Hamid. So that our intellectuals can be saved.


  • Zaigham
    Apr 3, 2012 - 4:38PM

    Totally biased article, based on hate, I can’t believe how the editor allow this sort of writing straight way. I want to highlight one point here. we can disagree with Mr.Zaid Hamid but is this a way to talk?
    Mr.writer, Tell me one think that Quaid-e-Azam did only one Speech i.e. on 11th August 1947.(which people like him interpret as per their approach- Secular) what about number of other Speeches of Quaid which dilute this idea that he has a secular approach, but our secular writer (other like this one) only read 11 August 1947 speech in his whole life. they will never try to read other speeches as i mentioned.


  • Rehman
    Apr 3, 2012 - 4:46PM

    @ Mr Naqvi

    Sir, you have nailed it


  • Jahanzaib Rehmat
    Apr 3, 2012 - 5:19PM

    Zaid Hamid you are doing a good job .. Crush all those elements in Pakistan who are an Indian agents .. I as a 24 year old Pakistani do believe in TWO NATION THEORY .. InshAllah We will establish Islamic Spiritual Democracy in Pakistan .. As we have seen a true Islamic Republic in Iran and inshAllah next will be Pakistan .. I as a citizen of Punjab, Pakistan don’t believe in provincialism .. My Ideology is ISLAM and my Identity is PAKISTAN .. May Almighty Allah bless Pakistan and make us true servants of ISLAM .. Ameen


  • wahab khan afridi
    Apr 3, 2012 - 5:31PM

    zaid hamid needs to grow up he still lives in 18 century , pakistan will have to change it self according to external environment, zaid hamid is like mullas who wants war with World bt they aint gt bullet and they say God will help ? these dumb people den forget that God helps those who work hard unlike us pakistani who talks rather than work hard.. so zaid hamid should get a life seriously firstly he believes in Pir and Mureedi which Islam does not allow and secondly he preaches Iqbal who was him self Pir and Murshid believer,, why do ignorant like zaid hamid and other mulas follow Qurran and hadith rather than follow pirs?


  • PakiKaka
    Apr 3, 2012 - 5:42PM

    How does that prove that Pakistan will be a theocratic state.. Jinnah simply said a country based on Islamic ideals… he never said Islamic shariah will be imposed… get your history right… when Maulana Shabbir asked Jinnah to impose shariah in the newly formed Pakistan Jinnah’s reply was ‘really? whose shariah should we impose?’ please don’t contribute to already confused thought of Pakistanis… Jinnah never wanted Pakistan to be a theocracy he only wanted a country based on Islamic ideals, which simply means egalitarian ideals of equality…


  • Mr T
    Apr 3, 2012 - 5:47PM

    Down with Zaid Hamid and his followers.Recommend

  • waqar
    Apr 3, 2012 - 5:48PM

    @wahab khan afridi: Pir and Mureedi is allowed in ISLAM. Correct your self khan sahb.


  • Sultan
    Apr 3, 2012 - 6:01PM

    @Truth hurts:

    Zaid Hamid seeks the death penalty for people who disagree with him. That makes his idiocy newsworthy. But, as you suggest, he is similar to a number of Hindu bigots and chauvinists.


  • Usman
    Apr 3, 2012 - 6:05PM

    Well written. Free speech has its positives and negative points. But a nation full of illeterate people what would you expect?
    I am unable to understand how a person with a mind and senses can hear the rubbish from this guy. He is a total waste of timeRecommend

  • Rukhsana Jabeen
    Apr 3, 2012 - 6:29PM

    How can the writer call this petition “extreme rubbish”?Just look at the language he has used it is so cheap and rude… may be he hasn’t gone through the petition at all which is clearly is based on solid points which are worth considering. I am sorry to say Express Tribune seems to manipulating or spreading disinformation!Recommend

  • Umair
    Apr 3, 2012 - 7:30PM


    No, I never said Pakstan would be a theocratic state, Pakistan will be a Caliphatic State inshAllah, an Islamic state, just like the state of Medina which the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.) established after migration. There is a big difference between theocracy and caliphate. One is the rule of Mullah, the other is the rule of Allah. Quaid e Azam himself said on 25th January 1948 that (pointing towards liberals), “I could not understand the section of the people that deliberately wanted to spread mischief and propaganda that the constitution of Pakistan would not be made on the basis of Shariah”. So now I am asking YOU to get your facts straight first. And please give me the reference when did Quaid said this to Maulana Shabbir Ahmed Usmani which you claimed from nowhere ?


  • Pollack
    Apr 3, 2012 - 8:48PM

    @osama: Most of the people here wouldn’t even have known what safma is until the red topi walla started his campaign against safma. Red topiwalla has made safma famous. They look like a bunch of courageous guys now in front of this agency sponsored red topiwalla.


  • Imran Ali
    Apr 3, 2012 - 9:00PM

    @PakiKaka: Zaid Hamid is the Trend Changer in Pakistan. Muslim youth was disappointed before the intervention of Zaid Hamid, he let us know the real face of the Zions, the Zions whom you are supporting. They have suck the blood of poor masses all over the world. What Bravo Naqvi has done? Recommend

  • sohaib
    Apr 3, 2012 - 9:38PM

    Not only is the title offensive but shows the writer out of his depth. If Zaid Hamid is not a threat, then why is he spending so much energy writing this article. Not a fan of Zaid Hamid nor the fan of losers and defeatists Recommend

  • Muhammad Ali
    Apr 3, 2012 - 9:52PM

    You have tried to give your opinion Mr. Naqwi but I think that Zaid Hamid has rightly filed this petition in Supreme court. He has filed this petition in order to save and protect the ideology on which Pakistan was made. These media traitors are deliberately trying to demolish our ideology and identity. One who wants to destroy that is clearly trying to make this generation a lost generation and demolishing the very routes of this country. I support this act of Zaid Hamid Sahib and disagree to your article.


  • Silent Protector
    Apr 3, 2012 - 10:09PM

    Pakistan was made as a separate homeland for Muslims of the sub continent and majority of the muslims of Pakistan want Pakistani to be an Islamic state. Oh and please don’t confuse and Islamic State with the some fanatics version who by the way are created by your so called secular states. Islam had it’s on political, social, judicial and economic model for 1300 years and we did pretty well before traitors and show offs came into power. I suggest that you read aout the rise and fall of Islamic rule of Spain. We know our mistakes and we have learned from it……and lastly you mentioned about our Quaid…its quite clear from his speech that he wanted Pakistan to be based on Islamic Socialism and not any other isms including but not limited to secularism, communism, capitalism…as far as freedom of religion is concerned our Quran makes it quite clear that there is no compulsion is religion and that the right way is clear from the wrong. Non muslims lived in Muslim lands through out our great Muslim history and felt more secure and were given more rights!
    May peace be with you!Recommend

  • Asia
    Apr 3, 2012 - 11:16PM

    no logic in any argument, attacked the Patriot ZHamid, where as it was a great concern for the Pakistani awam that how Secularists are behaving in our Pure land.Recommend

  • Abbas from the US
    Apr 4, 2012 - 12:08AM


    Don’t take it literally, here is the defination from the dictionary

    verb (used with object), ‐dogged, ‐dog·ging.
    Slang . to glare at threateningly.


  • Mr T
    Apr 4, 2012 - 12:40AM

    I’m surprised you don’t see the contradiction in what you’ve been writing here… on one hand you’re correcting the author and telling him about his 11th August speech where Jinnah said that ‘whatever religion you belong to is of no business of the state’… what do you take that to mean?? it doesn’t mean he was talking about minority rights sir, it meant that Pakistan wud be a secular state where everyone will be an equal citizen, he never referred to them as minorities… perhaps that’s why he made a hindu his first law minister, to giv a stern message to ppl like you that existed at that time… unlike the corrupted meaning of the word secularism that ppl like you would have us believe secularism simply means that state will not differentiate among its citizens on the basis of religion… that’s it… anyway, coming back to the point on one hand you’re referring to his 11th august speech in which he says that Pakistan will be a secular state yet on the other hand you’re also referring to a speech of Jinnah, which is totally new and unheard of before, in which he supposedly propagates imposition of shariah in Pakistan, which if true wud mean that Pakistan wud not be a secular state !!! don’t you see the contradiction here, unsurprisingly, you wouldn’t….


  • Mr T
    Apr 4, 2012 - 12:42AM

    with apologies, but unlike the non existent speech of Jinnah you’re referring to (which i reckon if existed would have been rubbed in our faces by religious bigots 24/7), the 11th August speech is quite famous and readily available… PakiKaka shudnt have asked you to get your facts straight… your problem is a lot more grave than just getting facts straight… it’s about thinking straight… as for caliphate, you want a khilafat when for years Afghanistan (a muslim brethren country) has been trying to destabilize Pakistan pre russian invasion period, when saudi arabia actively invests in madrassas of pakistan which churn out taliban aplenty, when iran refuses to sign the gas pipeline deal to protect india’s concerns… please do us a favor and carve out a new country for yourself in antartica and impose whatever you want there… an btw…what kind of caliphate do you want, the ummayad and abbasi caliphate in which children of the prophet were actively murdered or the ottoman empire in which the so called khalifa was the king himself, which is against the concept of khilafat… please don’t tell me you want the khilafat of the rightly guided caliphs… they were rightly guided… we are not… unless, like hafiz saeed, you consider yourself Islam


  • Umer
    Apr 4, 2012 - 12:52AM

    Article like these shows the biased nature of the website attacking one individual. Recommend

  • Anwar Hayat
    Apr 4, 2012 - 1:06AM

    I am a liberal and a secularist Pakistani and unfortunately both these terms have been hijacked by the very same people Zaid Hamid has implicated of being traitors. These so called journalists claim to be “liberal”/”secularists” but are in reality bootlickers of American foreign policy. Some of these journalists should be taught that being a liberal doesn’t mean writing big English words or supporting America’s foreign policy, because that’s what some of them think, which is sad. That being said, I’m not a blind supporter of Zaid Hamid, however what he exposes about the media in Pakistan is quite accurate. There is no doubt Freedom of Speech is necessary and there is no doubt that a vibrant media should be in place to bring forth criticism and discussion. HOWEVER, there is fine line between what CONSTRUCTIVE criticism is and what NEGATIVE criticism is. I am all for media exposing the realities of this corrupt government and for the media highlighting our inability to bring forth services to the public. But simply complaining about them is not going to solve anything, I have yet to ever read anything by any of these journalists in which a person is motivated to bring about change. Instead, they are told to “shut up” and “accept it”…that we’re doomed. This sort of rhetoric goes against everything Pakistan was made for. In harsh times you never keep your head low and give up, you stand up and stay confident and try to bring about change. There is no doubt in anybody’s mind that much of the mainstream Pakistani media are controlled in some form by foreign elements. They seem to get some sort of “hard on” by broadcasting stories of sadness and despair, when infact so much is happening around us. Yes we’re in harsh times, the world is in a recession. But simply crying and saying all is doomed is not the answer. Many of these “journalists” talk about Pakistan this and Pakistan that, many of them have dual nationalities, if God forbid, a war were to break out with the US, these would be the 1st cowards on a plane to Washington DC. I’ll start supporting these journalist when I see CONSTRUCTIVE criticism…until then, they are only making more and more people supporters of Zaid Hamid. You would be quite surprised as to how many moderates and even some liberals support Zaid Hamid.


  • atif abbas
    Apr 4, 2012 - 1:36AM

    indian agents


  • Anwar Hayat
    Apr 4, 2012 - 1:38AM

    …and shame on you ET, this is patethic. You should read the response by the admins of the DR AQ PAGE which was done to this guy (most people spell it Faisal, but to make it look more “cool” he writes it with an E)…that in itself shows his caliber…laughable and sad.Recommend

  • Concerned
    Apr 4, 2012 - 1:41AM

    The Express Tribune needs to revamp its editorial board, and create a more competitive one, to prevent articles named such as this one, and with ‘bad’ content prevented from being circulated!


  • kahar ul ammar
    Apr 4, 2012 - 1:41AM

    We all know SAFMA peoples are traitors of pakistan,..SAFMA is really feeling the pain..n they will feel this pain till their end…..Zaid hamid is a patriot……and these safma people are the traitors who try to shatter the ideological basis of pakistan………Recommend

  • Apr 4, 2012 - 1:45AM

    SAFMA funded article


  • Ali
    Apr 4, 2012 - 1:53AM

    Shame on Express Tribune !! Is it what you call freedom of speech?


  • Ali
    Apr 4, 2012 - 1:56AM

    Zaid Hamid’s take on this issue is not pragmatic 100%. But I (By the way I am an IT engineer, no stone age mullah or anything) being a regular political talk shows watcher and being aware of latest trends in our media, believe that our media is not completely free. It’s heavily biased. There are specific channels which support and promote Indian interests in Pakistan. They never air a news of human rights violations in Kashmir or India, but always create big news of every little mischief of any Pakistan. Especially the military or ISI. So mr.Zaid Hamid’s right to a far extent that our media is biased. Especially the SAFMA’s role in propagating the secular identity of Pakistan is highly suspicious. Zaid Hamid is right that if SAFMA proves Pakistan is secular, then the Two Nation Theory renders useless and hence the very theoretical reason of existence of Pakistan is abolished. Then it will be easier to divide Pakistanis into Sindhis, Baluchis, Punjabis and Pathans and hence disintegrate Pakistan. Sounds like a simple math to me…


  • Feisal
    Apr 4, 2012 - 2:23AM

    I salute Mr. Zaid Hamid for his undying efforts against these pro US/India snakes.


  • Feisal
    Apr 4, 2012 - 2:35AM

    Well said!

    I’d say the author got terminally bewildered after the petition, like other PRO USA/INDIA/ISRAEL journalist.

    The way these blokes are rattled after the petition assures me even more about their treachery.

    We patriots are with you


  • Apr 4, 2012 - 2:52AM

    The Quaid’s August Speeches, Charter of Medina and the rights of minorities

    Burying the myth of “secular Jinnah” and August 11 speech

    Zaid Hamid

    The environment and the background to the August 11 1947 speech:

    Pakistan was about to be created just after 3 days. Millions of people were on the move from India to their new homeland and a horrendous slaughter was going on of the migrants. Over 5 million Muslims lost their lives in their quest to make Pakistan. Muslims had moved to their majority regions of West Pakistan and East Pakistan and a sizeable Muslim population was now a minority in India at the mercy of aggressive, angry and violent Hindu and Sikh mobs. While there was great concern in the new Pakistan government over the well being of the Muslims left behind, there was also concern that similar anti-Hindu and anti-Sikh riots may break out in West Pakistan when the horrendous tales of slaughter, rape and murder of Muslims would reach Pakistan. Muslim leadership was determined that no such slaughter of minorities should take place in the Muslim land. This was a noble yet staggering challenge. The Hindus in newly formed Pakistan was nervous and were mass migrating towards India fearing a similar backlash slaughter. It was critical that new Muslim government remove the fears and panic in the non-Muslims living in newly created Pakistan. This was one the hottest topic of discussion in those days – How would Pakistan treat its minorities?

    Quaid decided to respond in a series of speeches, explaining the Muslim concept of protection of minorities. He made two simultaneous speeches to the Constituent assembly of Pakistan. First was on August 11th 1947 and the other was on August 14th, just 3 days later. Both speeches are continuation of the same thought process and explain each other and must be seen together as policy statements of Quaid. Both speeches cannot be separated from each other, nor seen in isolation nor quoted out of context to the regional environment and the challenges faced by the new Muslim government with regards to maintaining the peace in the country and protection of the minorities.

    The liberal secularists have always used couple of lines from the first speech to try to prove that Quaid wanted a secular Pakistan where religion will not have anything to do with the state. This is most bizarre, illogical and sinister interpretation of the Quaid’s vision and words which have nothing to do with reality.

    Quaid chose to speak on few critical topics of the time, explaining the gigantic events which were unprecedented and were now shaping the region. He made few observations in order of priority to be achieved for the new government.

    Remember that this was an inaugural speech and Quaid had not come very prepared and had only wanted to make few basic remarks, NOT any future legal or constitutional framework. This is important to understand:

    He clarified this point the opening remarks: “Dealing with our first function in this Assembly, I cannot make any well-considered pronouncement at this moment, but I shall say a few things as they occur to me”.

    Then we opened up with his speech whose critical points are below:

    “This mighty sub-continent with all kinds of inhabitants has been brought under a plan which is titanic, unknown, unparalleled. And what is very important with regards to it is that we have achieved it peacefully and by means of an evolution of the greatest possible character”

    “The first observation that I would like to make is this: You will no doubt agree with me that the first duty of a government is to maintain law and order, so that the life, property and religious beliefs of its subjects are fully protected by the State.”

    “The second thing that occurs to me is this: One of the biggest curses from which India is suffering – I do not say that other countries are free from it, but, I think our condition is much worse – is bribery and corruption. That really is a poison. We must put that down with an iron hand and I hope that you will take adequate measures as soon as it is possible for this Assembly to do so.”

    “Black-marketing is another curse. Well, I know that blackmarketeers are frequently caught and punished. Judicial sentences are passed or sometimes fines only are imposed. Now you have to tackle this monster, which today is a colossal crime against society, in our distressed conditions, when we constantly face shortage of food and other essential commodities of life.”

    “The next thing that strikes me is this: Here again it is a legacy which has been passed on to us. Along with many other things, good and bad, has arrived this great evil, the evil of nepotism and jobbery. I want to make it quite clear that I shall never tolerate any kind of jobbery, nepotism or any any influence directly of indirectly brought to bear upon me. Whenever I will find that such a practice is in vogue or is continuing anywhere, low or high, I shall certainly not countenance it.”

    It was at this point that he started to talk about the division of India and its fallouts and the fate of minorities in both Hindustan and Pakistan. He acknowledged that the challenge is “unprecedented”. He knew of the hate and anger between Muslims and Hindus and he advised them that now when the division has taken place, they will have to “bury the hatchet” and become Pakistanis. He was assuring the minorities as well as the people of all ethnicity that now they will have to be one as citizens of country. Not just between Hindus and Muslims, even within Muslims, he advised unity against divisions of sect, province or language. To Hindus he advised the same. Keep this in mind that these sentences are being said in an environment when explosive violence is taking place all over India and minorities in Pakistan are feeling extremely unsafe and vulnerable and needed strong encouragement from the leader.

    “I know there are people who do not quite agree with the division of India and the partition of the Punjab and Bengal. Much has been said against it, but now that it has been accepted, it is the duty of every one of us to loyally abide by it and honorably act according to the agreement which is now final and binding on all. But you must remember, as I have said, that this mighty revolution that has taken place is unprecedented. One can quite understand the feeling that exists between the two communities wherever one community is in majority and the other is in minority.”

    “Any idea of a united India could never have worked and in my judgment it would have led us to terrific disaster. Maybe that view is correct; maybe it is not; that remains to be seen. All the same, in this division it was impossible to avoid the question of minorities being in one Dominion or the other. Now that was unavoidable. There is no other solution. Now what shall we do? Now, if we want to make this great State of Pakistan happy and prosperous, we should wholly and solely concentrate on the well-being of the people, and especially of the masses and the poor. If you will work in co-operation, forgetting the past, burying the hatchet, you are bound to succeed. If you change your past and work together in a spirit that everyone of you, no matter to what community he belongs, no matter what relations he had with you in the past, no matter what is his color, caste or creed, is first, second and last a citizen of this State with equal rights, privileges, and obligations, there will be no end to the progress you will make.”

    “I cannot emphasize it too much. We should begin to work in that spirit and in course of time all these angularities of the majority and minority communities, the Hindu community and the Muslim community, because even as regards Muslims you have Pathans, Punjabis, Shias, Sunnis and so on, and among the Hindus you have Brahmins, Vashnavas, Khatris, also Bengalis, Madrasis and so on, will vanish.”

    “You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place or worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed that has nothing to do with the business of the State. We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens and equal citizens of one State. Now I think we should keep that in front of us as our ideal and you will find that in course of time Hindus would cease to be Hindus and Muslims would cease to be Muslims, not in the religious sense, because that is the personal faith of each individual, but in the political sense as citizens of the State.”

    How can this last point 9 be taken as a declaration that Quaid wanted to make a secular Pakistan? All his life he never used the word “secular” for Pakistan. In fact, in over a hundred speeches he called for Islamic laws, Quran and Sunnah and Sharia to be the law of Pakistan.

    Just 3 days later, Quaid again addressed the same assembly in the presence of Lord Mountbatten and further explained the concept of protection of minorities in a Muslim state. Mountbatten had asked Quaid to follow the footsteps of King Akbar in tolerance and inter faith harmony.

    Quaid responded with a stunning reply, making the sunnat of Rasul Allah (sm) and its manifestation in Muslim history as his benchmark of tolerance:

    “I wish to emphasize that we appreciate the spirit in which those in the Government service at present and in the Armed Forces and others have so willingly and ungrudgingly volunteered themselves provisionally to serve Pakistan. As servants of Pakistan we shall make them happy and they will be treated equally with our nationals. The tolerance and goodwill that great Emperor Akbar showed to all the non-Muslim is not of recent origin. It dates back thirteen centuries ago when our Prophet not only by words but by deeds treated the Jews and Christians, after he had conquered them, with the utmost tolerance and regard and respect for their faith and beliefs. The whole history of Muslims, wherever they ruled, is replete with those humane and great principles which should be followed and practiced”

    How can Quaid be secular when he is drawing his ideals from the Sunnah of the Rasul Allah and the Islamic sharia which came “1300 centuries ago”?

    To explain the above point 9, we would like to refer to the Charter of Medina signed by the Rasul Allah (sm) and the Jews of Medina and the non-Muslim Arab tribes around Medina. An Islamic state had been formed in Medina with Rasul Allah (sm) as its leader. In order to strengthen its military, political and economic situation, a Constituion or Charter was drawn up and signed by all Muslims, Jews and Non-Muslims where they were given rights as the citizens of the state and were allowed to practice their respective faiths and beliefs without fear or threat.

    This incredible document was the first written constitution of the Islamic state forms the basis of rights of the citizens in an Islamic state where non-Muslims live under the protection of Muslims.

    Here we produce few relevant points of the charter where Jews and minorities were treated as equal citizens of the state, not in religious matters but as citizens of the state of Medina.

    This is a document from Muhammad the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace), governing relations between the Believers i.e. Muslims of Quraysh and Yathrib and those who followed them and worked hard with them. They form one nation — Ummah.

    Those Jews who follow the Believers will be helped and will be treated with equality. (Social, legal and economic equality is promised to all loyal citizens of the State).

    No Jew will be wronged for being a Jew.

    The enemies of the Jews who follow us will not be helped.

    The peace of the Believers (of the State of Madinah) cannot be divided. (it is either peace or war for all. It cannot be that a part of the population is at war with the outsiders and a part is at peace).

    No separate peace will be made by anyone in Madinah when Believers are fighting in the Path of Allah.

    Conditions of peace and war and the accompanying ease or hardships must be fair and equitable to all citizens alike.

    When you differ on anything (regarding this Document) the matter shall be referred to Allah and Muhammad (may Allah bless him and grant him peace).

    The Jews will contribute towards the war when fighting alongside the Believers.

    The Jews of Bani Awf will be treated as one community with the Believers. The Jews have their religion. This will also apply to their freedmen. The exception will be those who act unjustly and sinfully. By so doing they wrong themselves and their families.

    The same applies to Jews of Bani Al-Najjar, Bani Al Harith, Bani Saeeda, Bani Jusham, Bani Al Aws, Thaalba, and the Jaffna, (a clan of the Bani Thaalba) and the Bani Al Shutayba.

    Those in alliance with the Jews will be given the same treatment as the Jews.

    Yathrib will be Sanctuary for the people of this Pact.

    The parties to this Pact are bound to help each other in the event of an attack on Yathrib.

    The Jews of al-Aws, including their freedmen, have the same standing, as other parties to the Pact, as long as they are loyal to the Pact. Loyalty is a protection against treachery.

    Allah approves this Document.

    This incredible charter drawn 1300 years ago was one of the reference Quaid was making in his speech when it comes to treatment of the minorities or non-Muslims in an Islamic state. Jews were given equal rights, despite having their separate faith, under the protection of Islamic state. They were citizens of the Islamic state when called for duty and at that time, they would cease to be Jews or Muslims, not in the religious sense, but as patriotic citizens of the Islamic state. Isn’t this exactly what the Quaid had said which the liberal secularists try to twist as his desire to create a secular state?

    Here, we bury the myth of our Quaid’s August 11th speech which the secularists use as reference to “prove” that he wanted a secular Pakistan, quoting it out of context, without knowledge of Islamic history or of the wisdom of Islamic sharia and sunnah.

    The case is decisively closed now. Let the secularists say what they want. As Quaid himself had said that he wanted to make Pakistan as the “bulwark” of Islam and called Pakistan as the premier Islamic state and categorically made it clear that only Islamic socialism would be practiced here and no other “ism” like secularism, communism, capitalism etc.

    The real Quaid is now known to the nation. For the last 63 years, the bigoted Mullahs and secular fascists have been lying about this greatest Muslim leader of the 20th century. The time has come to reclaim our beloved Quaid.

    Zaid Hamid


  • Syed Ali Hadi
    Apr 4, 2012 - 3:19AM

    How many of you can see this video?? And can you decide after watching this, that he wants secularism??? Watch it again and again, esp feisal naqvi its for u.

  • Qasim
    Apr 4, 2012 - 5:18AM

    Shame is the exact word for an article like this. Do newspapers ever work like this?


  • Shahzaib Ansari
    Apr 4, 2012 - 5:40AM

    This is unfair to publish this kind of Articles in news paper with such title. SAMAFA is hypocrate organization which is spreading confusion in Pakistan. There are several Anchors, Columnists who have been writing and speaking against Muslims History and Pakistan, as can be seen and read. Therefore The Editor of Tribune will have to give a chance to Zaid Hamid to answer this hatred based article.


  • Shahzaib Ansari
    Apr 4, 2012 - 5:46AM

    @Khan Jr:
    it is very clear that he was with Yousuf Kazab but as he got to know about his blaspheme he left him. You can see his acceptance and his announcement that Yousuf was a blaspheme.
    I, Zaid Hamid, clearly believe in The Khatam e Nabuwat (salal lahu alaehe wasalm).
    Dear Khan, here, I believe you will not post such comment about this and will tell others as well whom you have told this…
    Shahzaib Ansari..


  • Omar
    Apr 4, 2012 - 6:38AM

    yea just like naqvi, here comes another stoog with a great “logical argument” as to why this idiot got so many negative comments. Because they most came about the same time? REALLY? How about your comment, did that not come about the same time as others? GOD you guys are just hopeless, whatever happened to “thinking”??!
    Let me get down to your level, so are you his cousin or brother or wife or something like that? Get a life you loser!


  • maria
    Apr 4, 2012 - 7:54AM

    @Arijit Sharma:

    He’s a Muslim. A muslim has no ethnicity.


  • maria
    Apr 4, 2012 - 7:55AM

    @Khan Jr:

    all lies.


  • Ashutosh
    Apr 4, 2012 - 8:04AM

    Zaid Hamid is the best agent RAW could hope for. He is a dream come true since he is doing most of their work . If someone can unravel Pakistan single handed; he can. He reminds me of Hitler . Similar stress on “jugend” (youth) and similar militaristic rhetoric ; similar confrontational tactics ; similarly economical with truth and similar lack of intellect. Once he manages to poison the minds of a large number of young Pakistanis; the country will embark on a journey like Nazi Germany and end like it too. The trouble is that I feel it has already begun and soon it’ll too late. Maybe it is already late too!


  • Faesal
    Apr 4, 2012 - 10:39AM

    Shame on you ET, absolutely disgusting title. article is not even worth spending one second.


  • Sadia
    Apr 4, 2012 - 12:44PM

    Bravo!!! Agree 100%


  • Mustafa Moiz
    Apr 4, 2012 - 1:13PM

    @Arijit Sharma:
    What difference does it make?


  • Akash
    Apr 4, 2012 - 1:50PM

    Reading the comments, one feels that most of the Pakistanis are still time wrap of 1947. Why the country was formed, what kind of leader Quaid-e-Azam was, two nation theory still debated after 65 years.
    Why so insecure and clear lack of identity ?? British manipulated, our leaders screwed and there was partition. Now move on guys !! its 65 years now for god’s sake.


  • Naveed Imran
    Apr 4, 2012 - 2:48PM

    Inshallah Time has come dare will be two groups … One from Haq n Others against… If Alahpak has decided to Clear the faces… No one can stop it… I Love Shah Sb ( Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid )… Aur Alahpak unko Dhairo ezt Daingay… Inshallah..


  • Kashmirian
    Apr 4, 2012 - 3:09PM

    No one is interested in Quaid-e-Azam outside the liberal elements of the posh areas of Karachi, lahore or islamabad, they are also bringing him in their discussion too much these days because it is suiting them, I never heard too much about Jinnah when I was child other than 14 August or his birthday.


  • Kashmirian
    Apr 4, 2012 - 3:14PM

    Who said muslims have no ethnicity, Allah has himself said in Quran that he divided the people in groups (tribes, ethnicities) so that they can be identified, like in arabia there were banu hashim, banu umayya, banu tamim etc at that time.


  • Kashmirian
    Apr 4, 2012 - 3:16PM

    On the Safma issue , everyone should support Zaid hamid eventhough he is somewhat psycho. But I will prefer to support a psycho partiotic person than a traitor on any day.


  • A. Khan
    Apr 4, 2012 - 3:16PM

    Wiki gives Zaid Hamid’s DOB as 1964 but he looks way older. Also who made him security expert. Every Tom, Dick and Harry (or Tariq, Dilawar and Hassan, in our case) has become an expert.


  • Kashmirian
    Apr 4, 2012 - 3:22PM

    @Arijit Sharma:
    He is one of your own, I am sure his forefathers came from india in 1947 , it is quite evident from the quality of his urdu and accent.


  • Abbas from the US
    Apr 4, 2012 - 6:34PM

    The likes of Zaid Hamid and the Difa e Pakistan groups are tryiing to write revisionist history. Anyone who is a serious student of history knows well that Jinnah was the most secular person in lifestyle, politics and mental attitudes.and there is enough evidence available both in India and Pakistan to that account. The records are clear and available for anyone willing to conduct research and conclude Jinnah’s ideas on Pakistan.
    All radical political movements advocating revolution mental and physical, typically feel the need to alter history, by rewriting accounts based on picking up small little truths exaggerating it to make it appear as if some real history has been surpressed. This is the nonsense that Zaid Hamid’s groups have made up as they go along.

    But like all fascists and manipulaters of political phillosophy, the German Nazi party, the Soviet Bolsheviks, this Difa e Pakistan nonsense will ultimately end in oblivion but could also like the examples cause a lot of grief to the Pakistani nation before it is swept aside finally.


  • jagjit sidhoo
    Apr 4, 2012 - 9:58PM

    @Ali: The only thing wrong with your math is that Pakistan has been a sovereign country for the last 64yrs and the fate of sovereign countries is decided by the actions of its citizens .


  • Shah Sahib
    Apr 5, 2012 - 1:01AM

    @Baloch Youth: Media should also give time to the relatives of deceased Punjabis, Muhajir, Saraiki and Pakhtoon for. These peoples were living in Balochistan from 100 years but indian agents killed them in their so called Freedom War. I know all Balochis are not bad but most of them are traitors , living in Pakistan and barking on Pakistan. If they needs freedom then they should leave Pakistan and should join their Indian Masters.


  • Sheikh Ovais
    Apr 5, 2012 - 1:49PM

    the time will decide,,who is write and who is wrong…….


  • Imran Ahmed
    Apr 15, 2012 - 3:19PM

    Excellent, well reasoned and sound article. “Mad dogs and Englishmen” is a mildly amusing quote to Englishmen but obviously not to some of the lal topi types who either intentionally pretend outrage or just exhibit their ignorance of the language by their protests when “Englishmen” is substituted by “Lal Topiwallah” in the quote.
    On a serious note, should we have faith that the learned judges of the SC are indeed … learned?


  • Imran Ahmed
    Apr 15, 2012 - 3:25PM

    @ Muzaffar,
    Dear Sir,
    Please look up the term “ad hominem” argument.
    Attacking the author’s record as a lawyer in an unrelated dispute and then to conclude that his article on Zaid Hamid is therefore incorrect is a manifest logical absurdity.


  • Adeel Akhlaque
    May 4, 2012 - 6:01PM

    I was reading somewhere a saying by one of OUR Khulfa-e-Rahideen (maybe it was Hazrat Ali (RA) but dont remember who exactly it was) that “If someone calls you bad and you get angry over it then YOU ARE actually BAD”.

    I’m not taking any sides but a nonsense and ridiculous title! SHAME ON YOU!!


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