India can never be a favourite for Pakistan: Jamaatud Dawa
While addressing the rally, senior member of JuD Ameer Hamza said "When Pakistan announced that it might award the MFN status to India, Hafiz Saeed reassured , Ali Geelani that we will not leave him alone."
"India can never be a most favorite nation for Pakistanis,” he added.
Syed Ali Shah Geelani is the founder of the Tehreek-e-Hurriyat of Indian administered Kashmir.
Referring to Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar, Maulana Abdur Rehman Makki said:
"How can this 33 year old girl know anything about the 63 year old Pakistan?"
He also added: "If this decision (to award MFN status to India) is not reversed then those who are responsible for this decision will have to get reversed."
Secretary General Punjab of Ahl-e-Sunnat-Wal-Jamat, the political wing of banned militant outfit Sipah-e-Sahaba, showed solidarity with the JuD.
"I want to announce from Sipah-e-Sahaba that we are with Hafiz Abdur-Rehman Makki and Hafiz Saeed."
The JuD Lahore Ameer, Ameer-ul-Azeem was present at the rally also.
Media efforts to promote harmony with India during the speeches were also condemned.
At the rally when the participants were asked why they were attending, one tractor driver said he was given Rs2,000 to attend. Others gave figure between Rs2,000-5000.
A few others said they are attending because of their personal association with JuD members in their neighbourhood. However, a few farmers said they were protesting because “India does not release enough water for their fields.”
Rally participants also included a number young boys from the JuD Markaz Tayyaba in Muridkey.
The group announced that on November 27 students from different seminaries will stage a protest against granting the MFN status to India outside the Lahore Press Club. On December 18, 40 religious parties will gather for a convention at Iqbal Park in Lahore.
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Pakistan will one day be a part of BHARAT (only the land,not the peoples) Inshallah!
@ali arbY: WHF r u talking about, RSS is not same as JUD. Jud is a banned terror organization who goes to other countries and kill innocent people, allegedly with ISI sponsered money. While RSS are made up of goons who make trouble in their own backyard and has no state backing.
JUD is banned internationally while RSS is do have much coult outside maharastra and are not known anywhere other than bunch of obbssessed Pakistanis like you.
Just miffs me how these anti-minority militant traitors, banned extremist terrorist organizations and Osama Bin Laden sympathizers, such as Hafiz Saeed who did Janazah for that Kharjite criminal, can openly rally in defiance against the Pakistan state.
It is hard not to conclude that the political or military state is either afraid of them or share ideological views or are in collusion for whatever reason. The Supreme Court has certainly not helped, always favouring the notorious terrorists.
@Asif Sajjad:
Love thy neighbours, you can not change your neighbours. Learn to live with them.
What has been achived so far with attitude like yours, be rational.
Religion does not teach to fight people of different faith, learn to live in harmony.
Govt. should make laws to safeguard intrest of Pakistan while granting India MFN.
@Malik:
Yes, its in Aabpara.
why pakistan has failed i can understand
@Ghaznavi: Agree with your comments. You have even explained it better than me but I am afraid nobody wants to buy this explanation in Pakistan, being totally brainwashed against India.
The twist lies in the translation of the term "Most Favoured Nation" into Urdu which becomes "Intahai Pasandeeda Mulk" - Giving a wrong impression to the masses. Even the term MFN is very misleading, it needs to be corrected to reflect that India will now be treated at par with any other nation for trade.
These poor people don't know what MFN status is. They probably only understand 'India' or 'Hindustan' related matter. While India-Pakistan Goverments trying to stabilize the relation, these stratergic assets think their lucrative Jihadi business is in jeopardy and slipping the nation from the grip of their masters. If Kashmir is really a concern then dialogue should start. Things will be better for common Kashmiri if 2 govts talk face to face on the table and not these paid protests.
@expresstribune. Sir, yesterday, you reported that many of the participants were paid between 2000-3000. Today, you have edited that portion of news. Are you scared of JUD???.
india blacked mail pakistan to give MFN whilst keeping its tarrif mesaures this was also so indian would stop its unjust opposition to EU deal whn pakistan never opposed india-eu deals @dude:
IS there any evidence JUD was behind mumbai attacks ? no india provided no evidence just accusations
every year g20 leaders meet in one of those G20 countries. T20 leaders always meet in Pakistan ( Which pakistan should atleast be proud of )...Looks like they are more productive than G20 leaders is what i learn from the above picture..
Don't worry. Nobody, and probably most of all India, believes you have become a tolerant and sane country. I'm sure most people would be more surprised by you not throwing your little tantrums. JuD, you're predictable in your bigotry, save your energy. If you let people just assume it rather than talking about it yourselves, you'll probably even end up with a better image since few, even with good imaginations, would reach the levels of your ridiculousness.
“If this decision (to award MFN status to India) is not reversed, then those who are responsible for this decision will have to get reversed.” Coming from this lot, this is definitely a death threat!
Lashkar-e-Taiba was banned in Pakistan on January 12, 2002. On 2 May 2008 it was placed on the Consolidated List established and maintained by the Committee established by the United Nations Security Council Resolution 1267 as an entity associated with al-Qaeda. The report also proscribed Jamaat-ud-Dawa as a front group of the LeT linked to Al Qaeda and the Taliban.
Only in Pakistan an organization banned by UN Security Council can hold a public rally without a single police man in sight. Isn’t that Pakistan would like India to follow up on certain UN Security Council resolution? JUD is suppose to be a charity organization and allowed to collect hide during the Eid. Is this rally was paid for by sale of hide collected during Eid?
So much for respect for UN as an elected member of the UN Security Council government of Pakistan has certain legal and moral obligations. How can Pakistan a member of Security Council pass resolutions against other countries and expect them to follow through while at home it is flogging its resolution with impunity? May be the 33 yr old lady who knows nothing about India should think twice before raising her hand at the table of UN Security Council to vote against other nations? Something to think about.
@R S JOHAR" If their own Govt. and the establishment cannot make them understand what more can you do to these brainwashed people.
Well done my Children!
Though I would like India and Pakistan to open up, both the countries will only put up more items on the non-trade list. Talks will take ages. In the meantime, Pakistan will say to WTO that they have indeed given India MFN and that they are free to trade in EU. India is at a disadvantage.
Agreed with Jamat-ud-Dawa "India can never be a favourite for Pakistan"
I don't think JuD and many Pakistanis understand what MFN clause means in global trading but take it as a dictionary meaning that Pakistan is granting India the status of most favoured nation despite being its number one enemy, which as per their perception is totally unacceptable to them. Let me explain this clause in layman words ie that most favoured nation(MFN) in world trade is merely a terminology clause in the World Trading Organisation(WTO) manual which states that a country may grant MFN status to the other country, if it is interested in increasing trade with that country ie reduced tariff on imported goods etc. Therefore mfn status is not being granted to India by Pakistan because of love or considerations of being most favourite but for trade considerations only, which would benefit Pakistan immensely.
As a loving and patriotic Pakistani I would like to make a comment. It is the need of the 21st century that both nations, India and Pakistan, ignore their horrible past and expeditiously normalize their relationships. The need to sincerely work on sorting out all of their bilateral disputes whether it is the issue of Kashmir or water-sharing. It is my desire in my life to see the peace and friendship between the both nations gets to the extent that the border between them becomes as soft as the US-Canadian border, where millions of visitors and traders travel back and forth without any hinderance.
@ ET Its not "Indian Administrated Kashmir", its "Indian Occupied Kashmir"....please show some level of nationalism
Their jihadi business is under threat by better ties between India and Pakistan
Just one question to all the pakistanis here...
In the last one year, We had Gilani, Hina khar and many more diplomats visited india.. Not one visited pakistan... This shows who needs who..
We are at losing end and we need to admit it, Bashing is not a solution performance is required!
Infact these useless mulla cant be favourite to majority of Pakistanis. These anti social element survive on hate, if not India then they will craft another imaginary enemy. Absolute majority of Pakistanis want to live in peace and want to do better in life. I am sure if these mullas live in Saudia then they will know their worth.
MFN status 2 india will open a market of 180m people for india bt for pakistan a huge market of 1.2b. So who is d gainer ? Absolutely that is pakistan.
It's just a label guys. India will do what it pleases and Pakistan will do the same. Trade opportunities will rise however.
@dude: india had already given thz status in 95 or 96 ..did pakistan asked india at that time??
@talha: Just read the documents about Sindh Tass treaty. Pakistani generals and bureaucrats (not "corrupt" politician) sold 3 Eastern Rivers to India for cash to build white elephant of Turbela Dam. This created tension between Sind and Punjab, thanks to the "vision" of the short sighted generals. And yes, I am older than Tarbela dam; just in case you apply mulla Makki logic.
India should demand that Pakistan not accord MFN status to India ( which India acorded Pakistan in 1996 ) . I mean if India demands something, JuD will oppose it.
Meanwhile, India is a fool to expect that unilateral concessions to Pakistan will encourage sanity. Sanity works only with sane entities.
Is if these nuts understand the concepts "MFN, bilateral trade, or peaceful coexistence."
Did India asked Pakistan to give mfn status to it? India is in trade with whole world, relation with Pakistan is more pain than gain.
rite now we are importing onion and tomatoes from india and iran which are cheap in comparission with our own country,there is'nt any problem in trading but the water issue should be sorted out before such an award
The majority of Pakistanis believe that India is our enemy ,they can,t forget the specifies that are given for Pakistan to get freedom from Britain and Hindus, and how the can forget their Muslim brothers of Kashmir where .8 Millions Indian army are busy to genocide the people of Kashmir and also the Indian behaviour towards water issues. They will never forget Indian aggression in 1965,71 and in Siachin. And someone who said about brainwashing and giving the participants 2000 to 5000 Rs. they should know that such activities are doing in a series and how it is possible to afford such huge amount of money??? Remember, ecept some Pakistani people ,All Pakistanis know that the relation with India is only of blood and built not trade...and its status for us worst enemy not MFN......
haha...thanks to pak news papers for publishing this . From this we can understand How the process of brain washing is going on there? "How a 33 yr old lady know about 63 yr old country"---Up to some extent it is true . Because history is being manipulated in pak according to pak media . So ,How can a normal pak citizen know about their country ??If India had stopped water or had diverted water for its over billion people , pak wouldn't have got a single drop of water and would have become Afghanistan . If Indian soldiers were killing Kashmir people for nothing then no one would have left as of now . India wouldn't have prevented its citizens to buy land and stay there permanently thanks to beauty of Kashmir . God has given Indians small hearts , but we know what water is for a country and specially when the country is Pakistan with which we have cultural and blood relations . Indians will throw the government out of throne who dares to do it. Indian gov can force other countries to end business relation with pak in case of any disastrous situation,but can't stop or divert water . Again why should India do it when Pakistan is in auto pilot mode for self destruction .
Who cares what they say?
Yes India is not the favourite for Pakistan. Pakistan's favourite is Afghanistan.
they saddest part is that the Jamat ul Dawa doesn't have a clue about the meaning of MFN. I bet not a single person in the rally had an idea what they were protesting about, except the chance of indulging in a little India bashing. I guess they are really compete with their RSS brothers across the border for inflaming anti peace sentiments.
@Asif Sajjad: China is killing our muslim brothers in xinjiang, even Allama had said that kashgaris(chinese muslims) are our brothers, why are we giving a Chinese general Nishan-e-Pakistan for killing our muslim brothers?
@Asif Sajjad: Completely agree, the liberals in Pakistan do not even try to look at what is RAW doing. Liberals in Pakistan are either fools or they willingly want to look over the facts to support India. I hope one day they look at the ground realities and try to find out how is India trying to destroy Pakistan.
@Samiullah: The sadest part is that people get fooled!
@Sirat-ul-mustaqeem: I wonder how?
It is unfair that we are declaring India as Most Favored Nation (MFN). Those who always abuse Pakistan are not at the level of such status. Any pressure should not be greater than self respect.
The political leaders should stand up and tell these ignorant, rabid reactionaries that MFN only allows level playing field to India, wihch we are obliged to give to India under WTO membership rules.
Iam shocked at this nation that is prepared to get its markets swamped by the Japanese, Malaysian, Korean and CHinese goods but not Indians when it is going to benefit the common man.
Common sense tells that India needs a stable, economically vibrant Pakistan on its borders. On the contrary we are seeking importnace in our negative stance. We are the one's losing out. These demonstrations only serve the interests of balckmarketeers, hoarders and economic barons who are extracting blood out of the people of Pakistan through their economic crimes.
Do any of us have a second opinion on it , that india is our enemy , they are stopping our water, killing innocent kashmiris , sending sui-cide bombers. I wonder, why only Jamat-ud-dawa is standing against it !!! This is not only their voice, this is voice of each true pakistani.
I fail to understand why is there a JI or JUI's picture whenever the news is about JuD? They sure don't get that much attention. These people should know what MFN status means and how its beneficial for the society .. but obviously the likes of Hafiz Saeed would never want that to happen and would prefer a society which is poor and can't afford education or food so that they can manipulate them for their own twisted views and thus keep enjoying their luxury cars and guards.
true! Only China can be our favorite. Though they are not Mulims but soon we will go there make China green.
So many terrorists at a single place. What happened to the Drones???.
“How can this 33-year-old girl know anything about the 63-year-old Pakistan?” LOL. Going by that logic Einstein should have never tried to explain the 13 billion years old Universe.
Jamaat-ud-Drama
JUD can never be a favorite of sane people.
Is there a off button on these guys?
JuD exposed!
JuD gathers people either by throwing money at them or brainwashing them that India is the cause of all their problems.
rs2000 for each participant... say 10,000 participants were there in the rally... it becomes atleast 20 million rupees... hmmm... who could be the financer ?
India would benefit more from MFN status and Pakistani government like its all stupid decisions gave India MFN. We will take that back and Indian Occupied Kashmir will be a part of Pakistan one day InshaAllah. Hafiz Saeed zindabad
“India can never be a most favorite nation for Pakistanis,”
this is certainly true
What idiots! Do they know what MFN stands for in terms of international trade? Or are they still stuck at literal translations
I dont know how the Pakistani society will get rid of this plague? Religious fanaticism is on the rise and is being fueled by ignorance, illiteracy and poverty.