Haqqani meets Grossman before boarding Pakistan bound flight

Published: November 19, 2011
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Grossman told Haqqani that he had never seen the memo till it was made public.

Grossman told Haqqani that he had never seen the memo till it was made public.

WASHINGTON: As Memogate continues in Pakistan and the United States, Pakistani Ambassador Husain Haqqani met with the US Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan Ambassador Marc Grossman hours before boarding a flight back home.

A State Department official, who did not wish to be named, said that the case of the memo was discussed in the meeting.

The official added that Ambassador Grossman said he had never seen the memo until it was made public. He also referred back to Admiral Mullen’s comments on the memo.

In comments issued via his spokesperson in Foreign Policy, Admiral Mullen did not find the memo credible when he received it.

Earlier on Friday, the State Department spokesperson Mark Toner told reporters at the press briefing that he was not going to engage in speculation. “Our understanding is that he’s still the ambassador of Pakistan to the United States, and we continue to have regular interactions with him, as we do with a number of people with – both within the Pakistani Government.”

Toner added that the United States “clearly support the democratically elected Government of Pakistan, as well as its constitutional processes.”

Haqqani on a flight to Pakistan

Pakistan’s Ambassador waved good bye to America, maybe the last time as a Pakistani envoy to the US, as he boarded a flight back to his motherland.

Minutes before his flight was to take off, the ambassador tweeted:

On way to motherland. #Pakistan

 

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Reader Comments (55)

  • Traitor
    Nov 19, 2011 - 8:37AM

    yes he has to meet his real masters before boarding the flight , no wonder…

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  • Sher Khan
    Nov 19, 2011 - 9:11AM

    evevn though i dont like PPP govt but i do now that destabilizing a govt right now in pakisstan will cause an upheavel in economy and more public unrest. We got to understand that Haqqani is more close to US than his own government and will do US bidding. US doesnt see PPP govt as doing their budding for refusing to comply with their agenda, therefore, they have asked their stooge haqqaniRecommend

  • Reality bites
    Nov 19, 2011 - 1:01PM

    They didn’t do anything against the Haqqani that America was asking for from pakistan’s army but I’m sure pakistan’s army will definately take action against this Haqqani :)

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  • k. Salim Jahangir
    Nov 19, 2011 - 1:31PM

    No Pakistani considers him our bona-fide representative in the US. Of course US would like to have him as so called Pak ambassador in DC,because he is their man.Must be arrested on arrival, he will spill the beens during interrogation.Recommend

  • Mirza
    Nov 19, 2011 - 1:36PM

    OBL’s friends and protectors would be all over him. They were all making stories that he would never return to Pakistan. He is not general Iskander Mirza or Gen Mush to run away from homeland or surrender to his enemies. Time to weed out terrorist’s friends and apologists. The whole civilized world should force the deep state to behave like paid govt servants and not masters.

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  • Blithe
    Nov 19, 2011 - 1:38PM

    He is still tweeting?!?

    Why do we have such politicians
    get to posted as ambassadors.

    This is a role meant for career diplomats ,
    not incompetent politicians and military generals
    like durrani and Karanat.

    Career are trained to be accountable to the
    foreign office…. and would NEVER dream of
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  • Farhan
    Nov 19, 2011 - 1:42PM

    Haqqani may have made a mistake, but considering the long mistrust between Islamabad and Pindi has caused this. I hope Zardari and Kiani solve this case because any clash over this issue would not be in Pakistan’s interest.

    By the way, even after this, I like Haqqani.

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  • Hammad
    Nov 19, 2011 - 1:58PM

    I can recall a similar episode. Javed Hashmi (PML-N), in a press conference on 20 October 2003, had read a letter that he received in mail, signed anonymously by some active military officers at GHQ, calling for an investigation into the corruption in the armed forces and criticizing Chief of Army Staff General Pervez Musharraf, and his relationship with the American President George W. Bush. He was arrested and his trial was held in the central Adiala Jail instead of a district and sessions court at the Lahore High Court, which raised doubts about its fairness. On 12 April 2004, he was sentenced to 23 years in prison for inciting mutiny in the army, forgery, and defamation.

    On 2011, entire raucous has been created due to a US businessman’s claim regarding an anonymous memo published by him in the US newspaper and reportedly authorised by our Civilian Ambassador. Surprisingly, everyone has started to believe its authenticity without any investigation or solid proof.

    When US raided OBL camp inside Pakistan and our forces failed to protect our borders, neither our Army Chief nor our Air Force Chief resigned out of shame. Why would anyone write a memo to seek help in saving the government from military takeover when the people responsible for failure to protect the borders are Services Chiefs and not the Prime Minister or President of Pakistan?

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  • Patriot
    Nov 19, 2011 - 2:14PM

    I feel PPP government has to fulfill promises made to US to complete their tenure but unfortunately they are failed to do so including operation in N Waziristan. US is now feeling uneasy and fedup with incompetence of PPP gov and they need to talk with the real power house so I feel PPP time is over after Zardari Haqqani was the most powerful man of the Zardari government and his downfall will be the start of End but in any case I pray for Pakistan. Long Live Pakistan

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  • MAHER ALI
    Nov 19, 2011 - 2:20PM

    State Depart­ment says they still consid­er Haqqan­i to be Pakist­an’s Ambass­ador to the US… who is state department to decide who will be our ambassador?? Oh, its USA, our Lord, they are giving us $ so they have every right to do ANYTHING in ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN….

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  • Americano
    Nov 19, 2011 - 2:49PM

    @Maher Ali. Relax, man, your government hasn’t replaced the ambassador yet. When (and if) you do the United States will accept the appointment. That’s how these things work.

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  • Much Amused
    Nov 19, 2011 - 2:58PM

    Haqqani on way to Pakistan? I bet he is taking stomach pills even though Grossman has perhaps assured him that he will not vanish in Pakistan?

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  • Was A Pakistani
    Nov 19, 2011 - 3:04PM

    @MAHER ALI:
    Have you made an announcement otherwise? So if they say they consider Haqqani as ambassador whatelse do you want them to say? He is so and till an announcement will remain so.

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  • aliz
    Nov 19, 2011 - 4:24PM

    The real show of Cats and dogs going on in Pakistan…
    each and every on who is disgarcing and looting pakistan and its people should be hanged without wasting time as we have wasted alot.
    we as people of pakistan must tell the looters that we are awake now u cant use us again. this was last chance for all of them whether its PPP( A t0 Z) , ANP, MQM , Muslim Leauge(A to Z), and PTI ( if not shown any progress in his words)
    Its time of change

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  • Usman Ayub
    Nov 19, 2011 - 4:54PM

    @ MAHER ALI

    100% correct, NO doubt

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  • Mohammed
    Nov 19, 2011 - 5:39PM

    Heads should roll and ultimately president zardari should be removed from his position if proven he has any involement in all this fiasco. So for me here is another test for PMLN. Time will tell if Mr Nawaz and his party will play the role of a credible opposition and pursue this matter through the parliament and the constitution. Nawaz Sharrif always complains why is the army always getting involved in such issues? Its because the opposition is incapable of protecting the soverignity of Pakistan. They are too busy playing the friendly opposition role!

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  • Muhammad Ali
    Nov 19, 2011 - 5:42PM

    Have you ever heard , Indian diplomat , Indian President & Indian Army involved in such controversies.

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  • furqan
    Nov 19, 2011 - 6:08PM

    It is sickening to see a civilian govt trying to control army. Army is the saviour and ruler of Pakistan. Corrupt politicians of all parties should be thrown out for good. Viva la Army !

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  • Pragmatist
    Nov 19, 2011 - 6:12PM

    Can anybody point out anything treasonous that Haqqani did? In fact, history will tell that he was the only high-profile Pakistani who wanted the skulduggery to end. Fact was, the insidious activities of the “establishment” was not longer a secret anymore. They were not nearly as clever as they thought. Osama put paid to that contention. The only way Pakistan would have survived with its credibility intact was to disown the real “traitors” who were denigrating Pakistan by supporting elements that would have only harmed Pakistan further.

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  • sadam khan
    Nov 19, 2011 - 6:23PM

    I think this issue is not related to Haqqani.Haqqani is bound to deliver what political leaders give him.The issue is related to president zardari.He should be trailed under article 6 of the constitution.

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  • Lawangin
    Nov 19, 2011 - 6:25PM

    Look. Haqqani is more blunt than any one in the PPP government. He wrote a book years ago (Between Mosque and Military) clearly indicated who rule the roost. It was a misake if any one in the PPP government was seeking US assurance to press the GHQ in Rawalpindi to decssest from taking over. The GHQ never cared about the outside world as far as their plan A, B or C was concerned. This time they would also care little if the regime failed to comply the agenda the PPP government was given.

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  • hedgefunder
    Nov 19, 2011 - 6:36PM

    Pakistan simply does not have competant person to take over from Haqqani, as he really does have a network and know how of the inner workings of Washington !!!

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  • Babloo
    Nov 19, 2011 - 6:45PM

    Haqanni should seek immediate political asylum or else the powers that rule Pakistan will put him in an asylum once he lands in Rawalpindi.

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  • Mohammad Ali Siddiqui
    Nov 19, 2011 - 7:00PM

    Haqqani has sold himself to US.

    He is no more a credible ambassador who can represent and protect the interest of Pakistan.

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  • Moulvi Nawaz Shareef
    Nov 19, 2011 - 7:04PM

    @ Mirza
    You are the only apologist this guy Haqqani has right now…..think about it!!!!

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  • r p
    Nov 19, 2011 - 7:28PM

    never such things happen in India
    to hell with such things
    many in Pakistan want army to leave civilian govt to take its decisionsRecommend

  • SM
    Nov 19, 2011 - 8:08PM

    Who cares what the Americans think… They are not our masters…

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  • Suckani
    Nov 19, 2011 - 8:27PM

    returning to “motherland” indeed! The same mother you will sell for a few dollars. Shame on you.

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  • Meekal Ahmed
    Nov 19, 2011 - 8:29PM

    @furqan:

    I is people like you who distribute sweets and cheer when another army person takes over the country. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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  • Raj - USA
    Nov 19, 2011 - 8:30PM

    The greatest fights – Good, Bad and the Ugly:

    Mohammad Ali Vs. George Foreman (Good)
    Zulfiquar Vs. Zia (Bad)
    Asif Vs Ashfaq (coming soon – Would it be Ugly?

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  • imran
    Nov 19, 2011 - 8:31PM

    I think Hussain haqqani should be treated as innocent until there is some credible evidence linking him and his master(?) to MEMO. Media frenzy is creating such a hype that it seems he would be hanged on arrival or else be arrested. Please- To Media People- show some civilization.

    Regards

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  • Raj - USA
    Nov 19, 2011 - 8:38PM

    The chants of Long Live Osama have come true !!!!!!!!!
    From the deep seas, he is still haunting and taunting the Deep State.

    Remember the old saying “Atte ki Diya: Ghar mein choohe khah jaya, Bahar Kauwa leeh jaye”
    (Lamp made from wheat flower: Rats shall eat them if kept in the house, Crows shall take away if kept outside).

    What will happen to Zawahiri and Mullah Omar?

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  • Raj - USA
    Nov 19, 2011 - 9:00PM

    @Muhammad Ali:
    Forget India. It does not happen even in Bangladesh or Sri Lanka or Even Nepal. Bangladesh it trying its former military officers in court. Sri Lanka just sentenced it former army chief to 3 years imprisonment.

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  • jane
    Nov 19, 2011 - 9:05PM

    @MAHER ALI: – bro try not to be offended by them , it’s just politely requesting pakistan , something like when you go to a chinese restaurant and request for ” fried rice ” – after all they still have the RIGHT to reply ” solly, – we has nooo fly lice today “

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  • khalidkhan
    Nov 19, 2011 - 9:48PM

    If Pakistani government and its leaders mainly Mr.Zardari serious about Pakistan interest, they should immediately appoint an inquiry commission with highest authority of Supreme court to get to the bottom of this, but they will try to avoid any way they can, because they are involved in this mess. What happened to OBL commission, it has been over seven month, no body knows what it is doing. there should be full inquiry on this, and Mr.Haqqani should be investigated with full force, and he should be removed from his ambassadorial post. He is a disgraced for Pakistan and its interest, and Zardari also has to go,because without his permission, there is no way Haqqani could have done this

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  • Zalim singh
    Nov 19, 2011 - 10:26PM

    so what?

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  • Cautious
    Nov 19, 2011 - 11:13PM

    The Pakistani Ambassador to the USA meets with America’s special envoy to Pakistan and you think this is newsworthy? You guys have to get a life.

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  • rk
    Nov 19, 2011 - 11:16PM

    @SM:
    are you sure…???come out from under the rock you live under…of course USA IS Pakistani’s MASTER…………Recommend

  • Mamoo shadna,
    Nov 19, 2011 - 11:22PM

    what else man after all they are bread feeder to them god bless america forever.Recommend

  • Mirza
    Nov 19, 2011 - 11:41PM

    Are all the liars who were predicting that Haqqani would never go back to Pakistan going to apologize for their lies and mis information? Or as usual they are going to continue supporting the rumor mill? Let all the facts come out before making a final decision. Why all of a sudden the army has become the darling of the rightwing mob after they were caught in bed with OBL?

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  • Kia Khaney
    Nov 20, 2011 - 12:11AM

    Which memo?? O, the one with TREASON written all over!!!

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  • Babloo
    Nov 20, 2011 - 1:02AM

    The main question is
    1. Is the army/ISI in nexus with terrorists ? How deep and high-up does the nexus go ?
    2. Did ISI/Army threaten the democratically elected government when it was caught in the OBL scandle ?
    3. Does the civilian government in Pakistan live in fear of the army who are accountable to none ?

    Who drafted the memo or who sent it to Mullen, seeking help to save the civilian giovernment is relatively minor issue.

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  • Nov 20, 2011 - 1:03AM

    Pakistani nation is with you Haqqani : )

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  • SM
    Nov 20, 2011 - 1:51AM

    @rk
    We all know that the US takes advantage of Pakistan’s poverty, but the reality is that the US is not Pakistan’s master whether you like it or not.

    Pakistan has single-handedly frustrated US plans in the region and therefore the US is in such an uproar about Pakistan.

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  • Nov 20, 2011 - 2:02AM

    Miss the old days when firing squad is the last thing these traitors see.

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  • Nov 20, 2011 - 5:29AM

    The contents of the memo are way too glaringly selloff of Pakistan that no Pakistani, even as bad as Hqqani and even Zardari will ever think of. How could they ask for protection from one umbrella only to have a thousand time aasman hovering above them (US).(Pak army will at least kill and put the dead body in ‘shade’ as against them who will dump it in the sea.) By logic it does not equate. Therefore the memo is a farce cooked by Mansoor and US.

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  • omar
    Nov 20, 2011 - 8:16AM

    A lot of people in Pakistan fail to read this episode correctly. The issue here is not whether Mr. Haqqani has communicated with Manzur Izaj. The sequence of events preceding this message are very important.

    1. The civilian government thought that it will be overthrown in the wake of OBL shoot down and its should be protected. Why would the army and ISI take over government? The army and the ISI suspected that Americans have a mole that showed the location of OBL and that the Americans have evidence of Army and ISI hand in hiding OBL. They wanted to punish the government for their deeds or misdeeds.

    2. Why did the civil government make an offer? The Civil government determined that evidence is preponderant that the army was involved. The only way Pakistan can escape being branded a terrorist state is to limit the damage. That means to behave as a civilized society and not as a terrorist state. The civilian government did perhaps what any civilian government would do in such circumstances. Further, the army’s credibility was low. It was a time to set the house in order.

    Given these two, what exactly are Pakistanis worried about? About their army role in hiding BIn Laden or their civilian governments legitimate role to pull Pakistan out of a quagmire that its army has landed this nation?

    Thinking Pakistanis would support Haqqani and Manzur Izaz.Recommend

  • Khurram Mansoorq
    Nov 20, 2011 - 12:24PM

    @Muhammad Ali:
    Yes we have one of them got asylyum in foreign coutnry

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  • Adnan
    Nov 20, 2011 - 12:41PM

    Now Mr Haqqani will be saying his *Famous* #SundayShair to Shuja Pasha,Kyani and other military officials.Recommend

  • Riaz Khan
    Nov 20, 2011 - 2:53PM

    Without listening to his point of view, we have proved him quilty, not understanding that Mansoor Ejaz is a safecracker of the highest degree. HH, we are with you. I was watching Mansoor Ejaz giving interview in Punjabi cum English, what was the reason of doing such absurd thing when it was a Urdu channel obviously to gain the creditability of Army who are 90% from Punjab province.Recommend

  • Adnan
    Nov 20, 2011 - 2:59PM

    Those who are busy in kissing up Haqqani, it’s needed to understand that the lethal thin in the memo is to open Nuclear Sities for foreigners.

    Sadly Muslim history is full with lots of Mir Jafar and Mir Sadiq.Recommend

  • Naeem Malik
    Nov 20, 2011 - 6:07PM

    Army should chase extremists Huqqanis in North Waziristan instead of chasing civilian ambassador who clearly saw interference of army in democracy process from long time.

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  • Adnan
    Nov 20, 2011 - 7:03PM

    @Riaz Khan:

    Wah! When some Mullah or right wing does some mistake, you guys don’t ask any proof and rely on media to prove him wrong.

    When a leftist extremist did same, you are now seeking the point of view.

    HH, we are with you

    Time will come when we will see how much you are with him. Will you stay with him in jail if he’s proved as a traitor? Offcourse not because you will not like to quit your business of making statements in chilled rooms.

    Talking about Punjabis, well majority of politicians are Punjabis too so keep your ethnic crap for someone else.

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  • Aslam Niazi
    Nov 21, 2011 - 10:45PM

    Not a fan of Haqqani, but it would be worst if he is sacked on fake evidences of a person who has no love lost of Pakistan. It is unfortunate that our agencies become super active to trace politicians, but when it comes to real terrorists, it has no clue at all. What are Mansoor Ijaz Thoughts for Pakistan are quite interesting for those who think that they are ideological and Territorial defenders of Pakistan and paying heed to Mansoor’s alleged Memo and if they are giving the memo so much importance then should read this:- “A rescue plan for Pakistan Without bold, urgent action, the country – and its nuclear weapons – could fall to the Taliban. By Mansoor Ijaz / April 24, 2009 Mansoor Ijaz, an American of Pakistani descent, is a venture capitalist and financier.” Here is the link of his article. http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2009/0424/p09s01-coop.html. After reading this article one can find what his murky thoughts about Pakistan military are and Government. He is wolf in sheep clothing. Hussain Haqqani is most credible and worthy diplomat of Pakistan, if he loses his job it would be a great blow for this country.

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  • hedgefunder
    Nov 22, 2011 - 12:25AM

    @Aslam Niazi:
    Could not have agreed more with you !
    Haqqani is the not only the most credible man for Pakistan in Wahington at present, but only option really, considering the crucial period ahead over next 12-18 months with views in Washington getting harder in regards to Pakistan and their Aid.
    Furthermore in all sincerity, everything stated in the Memo is actually true about the state of Pakistan today !!!

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