It’s therapeutic applying the same logic to Pakistan’s prospects and the supposed legions out to sabotage us. For instance, it’s been drilled into us ad nauseum since independence that India wants to squash us and use our eyeballs to bake bread. Admittedly, wars have occurred in the past, when there was more parity of power. At the current juncture though, we have little that India could covet. Then, of course, there’s that argument that Americans want to neutralise our fantastically manly nukes and strategically castrate us.
Of course, per norm, what most haven’t considered are the ramifications. Consider this: a full-blown invasion by America occurs; and our utterly glorious forces are quickly defeated in battle — with the caveat emptor that their radars were under maintenance or were switched off, that the Fauji cornflakes were laced with soporifics that morning, or what have you (refer to a certain raid in Abbottabad in May for the entire litany of excuses). What then? At the very least, one would run into Iraq-like scenes; and while many will no doubt run to busts and portraits of Zardari to preserve them for future auction at Christie’s once his sainthood is papally sanctified, those better prepared will make for arms caches and help themselves to some good stuff of the radioactive kind. Yes, your friendly superpower will have contingencies in place for this, but the idea of them believing all possible sites could be secured without leakage is frankly ludicrous. And so, America, by its very actions, would arm anarchistic groups with the possible wherewithal of making American life very miserable.
One can also imagine India’s dismay. What was once a somewhat dysfunctional state on its borders will have suddenly turned into a delightful free-for-all where all strategy is useless. The problem with strategy as expounded by Sun Tzu and Machiavelli is it always assumes the enemy as rational. And by rational, one means capable not just of coherent thought but also concerted action. Multiple groups leave practical rationality adrift, because there is no overriding writ. So India, rather than tangoing with a foe it knows and comprehends, is suddenly left dealing with factions that do what they want when they want, based on whim and impulse, for they already have precious little left to lose.
No one wants a dead Pakistan. No one — not even India — wants a Pakistan so incapacitated it can’t keep itself in partial order. Despite all the jingoism, even if India has the military might to skewer Pakistan in half, what might it achieve by following through? It’d only have more states to add to the ones it can barely manage as is.
Flippancy aside, our purported carcass would turn into an excellent playground for opportunists. These will include Russia and China, who would quickly extend influence into the failed state. It’s easy to see how America won’t be happy with that. Iran will quickly mobilise its resources too, which would leave Saudi Arabia in conniptions. And all this will be happening on India’s borders. Not a good outcome for that erstwhile neighbour.
Yes, India is undoubtedly sponsoring the Baloch insurgency, but that’s only to keep us sufficiently busy that we can’t stir things up in Kashmir. And America is clumsily plying pressure any way it can, because it’s petrified of an explosive Afghanistan once it inevitably pulls out prematurely, rather like a poorly performing lover. It’s all realpolitik. But that doesn’t mean the world is out to get us.
Au contraire, the reason we keep limping along regardless of an economy that looks a wheel short compared to a unicycle and a leadership that makes Billy the Kid look like Mother Teresa, is that the entire world is united in at least one thing — Pakistan must be kept afloat at any rate. So the next time one brings up the idea of an existential threat from America, India or the bogeyman du jour, it might be a good idea to tell them that a Pakistan limping is far preferable for all concerned to one irrevocably broken.
Published in The Express Tribune, October 22nd, 2011.
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@Ali Tanoli: Diwali is at hand. Keep your "firecrackers" ready. It will be "fun"!
@ G Din, Dont forget thats why we made Fire crackers for that day so u guys can celebrate diwali'
@Ali Tanoli,: "Time has came peoples of world also reallized that pakistan is power and its gonna lead muslim world " So is Somalia. And, Somalia is Muslim, too. If you could not convince the world for 64 years that you are a "power to reckon with", may be you could band together and drag "the Muslim world" to the territory you two know only too well -the abyss of ignominy and oblivion!
"@ Rajeev, India will not make that big mistake they know what gonna happend niether do america. and just last week Gen Kayani said dont think we are afghan or iran u know what that means" Exactly what did happen that taught India not to make a "big mistake", Mr. Ali? Ditto for America! Gen Kayani's forerunner, the self-appointed FIELD MARSHALL Ayub Khan was made to eat his crow ("One Pakistani soldier is equal to 10 Indians") and then a piece of humble pie and subsequently sacked for a good measure. You are right you surely are no Afghans and definitely not Iranians who are still standing tall; when the time comes, you will last all of three days because all trucks, tanks, aircraft will grind to a halt for lack of fuel and there is no way to replenish your supplies because -oops - Karachi port, the only one you have, had been scuttled on the first day.
brilliant!
overall a very good article... apart from baluchistan-india part.... i have yet to come across any piece of information in british media about indian involvement... sorry mate... but as someone said above if it is intended for pakistani people i will ignore the accusation
@ Ali Tanoli
write in english please.
@Hisham Wyne: I do not necessarily agree with you. If Pakistan sends soldiers to India who pretend to be mujahideens like in 1965 or Kargill, India will not actively avoid engagement as you seem to believe. Nor will India remain uninvolved if 10 million refugees flood India as happened in 1971.
I also applaud your willingness to respond to and join debate with each person that disagrees with you in a respectful and logical fashion. The fact that I still disagree with your opinion in no way reduces the respect I feel for your approach.
@Menon I can't believe I am replying to you because having a knack for Indian/Pakistani psyche, I know where you are coming from. You are basically Indian version of our loving ghairat birgade. But anyway my friend, you completely missed my point. And please spare me the empty rhetoric of what Indian media is/isn't capable of. I exactly know the populist tendencies of both Pakistani and Indian media (responsible/ independent reporting is NOT there forte I am sorry). And may I say, in some case Indian media takes the cake for being more pathetic. However as I said before it does do a good job of controlling their international images.
Overall this is a great article but I'm always disappointed at how few of our authors can genuinely say something halfway nice about India. The article makes a great point that our neighbors in India have nothing to gain by Pakistan being any more of a mess than it is right now. That being said, we keep bringing up the "Indian involvement in Baluchistan" bogeyman - what evidence is there to that? If there is evidence, we should present it to the UN and make it public. We should leverage it to show that India is not totally innocent (which is the way the world now sees it. India is clearly seen as the good guy) but if India really isn't doing anything in Baluchistan, we should shut up and stop losing the last few ounces of credibility we have left before we are totally untrustworthy.
@ Ali Tanoli - what is your point?
Slippery Slope and arbitrary, what is a respectful word for speculation ...yeah... scenario planning in light of past based on present facts. It’s a peace well written, there is just one problem “the analyst tend to assume the future is going to be the product of factors they consider relevant” i consider your analysis a hunch a gut feeling. What they probably studied in political science and international affairs. This is my hunch, humans can be evil, but good always prevail in the end. Things may get worse before it get better. Stop dooming and glooming and it's sickning how friends at both side of the border leave no opportunity to show their real wrath and prejudice towards each other.
Respected Hisham Wyne,India can not walk and talk , and chew at the same time,it is beyond the capacity of Indian security agency,yes,Raw,exist just like black commandos,but real emergency occure like 1999,hyjacking,they were running like chicken without heads,and could not even disable the tires,and when Mumbai happened,they could not overpower them ,9 guys,teen agers,for 60 hours,you give way over capacity to Raw,and india.It is not bollywood movie,where some actors do play acting and copy tough guy talk in hollywood movie,only Mosad and Seals are for real.Your take on Pakistan is more accurate and realistic,but one need not to be Henery Kessenger to figure out pakistan policy,it is anti India and now lately USA has stolen India's top position,once USA,resume aid,India,and Indians will regain their top slot,every one knows ,India occupy unremitting,unrelenting hatred and enemity for at least 1000 years,there is nothing you or me or anybody can do about it,just pull up a chair,get a cool beer and just while away your afternoon.Cheers.
Baluchistan problem is existing since 1970 and Z.A Bhutto tried to fixed it and he knew the fuedals brain set because he was himself from fuedal background why we called india is doing some thing there because that time there was no afghan problem like we see now afghanistan has anti pakistan govt and biggest problem in baluchistan is there land lords and nawabs they dont wanna give there peoples education and dont let them work in industries. in reallty pakistan need change law & order clean leadership uncrrupt.
@Ali Tanoli
Time has came peoples of world also reallized that pakistan is power and its gonna lead muslim world
What exactly has Pakistan been waiting for? Your permission to 'gonna lead muslim world'? The Iraqis, Afghans, Somalis, Sudanese, Egyptians and now Libyans too are waiting when you 'gonna lead' them Do you have a tentative date in mind?
well done Mr Wyne and thank u for writing sucha accurate article based on real ground facts
You mean, you agree that US,Israel, India and the rest of the world are not conspiring against Pakistan? The guys pushing this narrative are lying? Are you sure?
@faraz: Dear Sir a very apt and true comment. I totally agree.
@ Rajeev, India will not make that big mistake they know what gonna happend niether do america. and just last week Gen Kayani said dont think we are afghan or iran u know what that means and then fallowing week Hillary in islamabad.
Time has came peoples of world also reallized that pakistan is power and its gonna lead muslim world well done Mr Wyne and thank u for writing sucha accurate article based on real ground facts.
Yeah, the only loophole I can spot is the one about Balochitan. But, I liked the way you put it. Kashmir insurgency from Pakistan stops, so will Balochistan. Even though it is not true. But, its for Pakistani readers, so thats fine.
Taking a lie that the masses believe to be true and turn it into an argument to support yours, which help steer the nation away from extremism and xenophobia is fair enough I guess.
I dont see many Pakistani commentators for this piece. Too bad.
@Pakistani in US:
Which tells me you know nothing about the Indian Media. Indian media is as independent as it can get anywhere in the world in democracy. You just get the hatred go or can't get rid of the habbit of blaming all your problems on someone else, can you.
Defending a rational article is illogical, as it rationalizes all the scenarios presented. I can see reaction toward the statement that Indians/proxies have been sponsoring insurgency in Balochistan and in other parts of Pakistan. I can also see that my fellow readers seek some evidence of these so-called accusations. With all due respect, it is entirely impossible to provide and seek evidence in such type of plots. However, the points raised in this article are not only scenarios, rather than some possible happenings if Pakistan's political and military establishment do not handle the critical Aghan-US operational diplomacy. There should be no ideology, but nationalistic as it brings every other aspect of religion, ethnic, linguistic and regional aspirations. No nation, no country, no country no territory and all that concludes that we do not deserve sovereignty. Awake up to the complexities of 21st century psychological warfare, guerrilla war, religious-cultural mercenaries and private armies. All these challenges need a planned well-thought and cohesive response. Our goal should be to reach to this level of competence, Don't make more enemies - Make Heroes!.
One of the best articles on ET ! Brilliant.
A very balanced and sensible article. What the authour says about the unity of all countries in the world to keep Pakistan as a single piece is the real truth. As far as insurgency sponsoring in Baloochistan I cant deny the possiblility as long as the pakistan sponsors the jehadists in Kashmir. It is all the grand strategy played by nations with their intellience agencies. It will stop once the two countries gets more closer in other issues.
@ Author You forgot about the other side of the story, what if talibanisation of Pakistan ? After all no sane state in the world would want a country with full of snakes and ruled by snakes, that too for neighbouring states it becomes a immediate cause for concern to prevent snakes from trespass their sovereign borders.
To all Indians...
Perhaps, it's possible that India is sponsoring Baloch separatists. It's a possibility. Though, Pakistan has failed to produce any evidence.
Meeting of Separatists is not proof that India sponsors them. India, in the past has met Palestinian leaders. India has Dalai Lama as a guest. So what?
Pakistan should come up with solid proofs. Otherwise, these claims are empty cries.
//India is undoubtedly sponsoring the Baloch insurgency, but that’s only to keep us sufficiently busy that we can’t stir things up in Kashmir//
Nah! It is pakistan that is poking its nose where it doesnt belong -- kashmir.
If India is doing something in Balochistan, I don't know if it will give any good results?
Pakistan, in the last 60 years, has not given birth to a single visionary leader. This means, they have a very small understanding of themselves and others.
So, when dealing with such dull people, India's method of sponsoring Balochistal insurgency, will have no effect.
//The problem with strategy as expounded by Sun Tzu and Machiavelli is it always assumes the enemy as rational.//
Brilliantly incisive.
@Rajeev Well put Rajeev. Although from what I know of Indian media (and their obsession with international image), I doubt they ever would put out such a news even if it's true. That would tarnish brand India and they would never want that (unlike Pakistanis who have no interest/control over any news about Pakistan in international press. No wonder we ended up where we are).
Very well articulated. But was India thrown in to appease the galleries? It would be nice to see all the evidence we have of India's involvement in Balochistan. Indians and even the Americans deny this. But it seems well informed people have credible information. Put it out in the public domain, please.
Excellent analysis of the whole situation of the region. As long as present establishment does not realise the futility of their jingoistic posture towards its neighbours and USA, the poor public of Pakistan will continue suffering. Well Done! Hisham Wyne.
"Yes, India is undoubtedly sponsoring the Baloch insurgency, but that’s only to keep us sufficiently busy that we can’t stir things up in Kashmir".
How do you know that India is sponsoring Baloch insurgency. No-one from Pakistan has ever provided any proof to India or international organizations. India flatly deines it.
Yes India does want to protect Jammu and Kashmir. But to do that it has sealed the border with Pak and has a lot of soldies on the border. The election process in india also allows the people in this state to be heard. In th last municipal elections, despite a ban on voting by Pak supported separatists, 80% of the people voted in the election.
"Admittedly, wars have occurred in the past, when there was more parity of power. "
I agree with the general direction of the article. However, the implicit assumption that India would no longer seek war because it has pulled ahead and there is no parity is incorrect. India has never coveted anything in Pakistan. All past wars were initiated by Pakistan. So in that regards, the situation is unchanged. India will never attack but it WILL defend.
Wrote a very funny and humrous,but very apt column,but factual state of affair in Pakistan today.Pakistani people need some reality check from many people,but how do you get to masses who are can not be reached through english news out lets?There is not enough time to right the ship,it can not be allowed to adrift any longer..Urdu publication need to educate people of reality in real world.India/us/or any other country is not intrested in breaking or destabalising Pakistan.He has in a funny way explained,world wants Pakistan in one piece,a near chatic failed state is not in the intrest of any body,in fact that is the best trump card Pakistan has.Only politicians and others are intrested in creating boggyman,to keep masses distracted for their own goals.
I would call this article "bitter but true" . Honest analysis, seems ET now becoming more like Dawn in publishing such material.
Very realistic picture posted by the author. Given a chance , I believe most Indians would wish that Pakistan was away in South America and not it's neighbor. Or the other way around if you please.
Keeping Pakistan alive has become a world requirement and pak army seems to be suicidal in nature and strategy.
it is a rational analysis of current situation in Pakistan. I am a keen follower of nearly all major Indian news outlets and have hardly ever come across anything relating to Balochistan in Indian news. One would assume that if Indian gov are so heavily and openly involved in Balochistan than Indian news agencies would want to highlight it, if only to improve their own TRP. Pakistan has never ever given evidence to the international community about indian involvement in Balochistan but blaming India for their own shortfall is a hobby in Pakistan, rather than looking into its own faliures.
Whichever news outlet you go to in Pakistani media they are all talking about war/india/US/jews. Hardly any debate about any social issues. I don't think any other nation on earth is so obsessed with war related chatshows on its TV screen round the clock. Pakistanis talk about fighting wars all the time with opponents who are mucg stronger and no one seems to have the brain to think of the outcome - Pak will barely last a week due to severe resource constrains if a war broke out with India, let alone US.
Be realistic and use your heads, not hearts.
Rajeev
You forgot to include the downsides to Pakistan as it is. You can make imaginary scenarios right up until the doomsday scene plays but the present is on most peoples minds. It could be disastrous later, but the here and now, leaving things alone, does not make for a good future scenario either.
Pak- Jelly state-MJ Akbar
"Yes, India is undoubtedly sponsoring the Baloch insurgency" - the author should back it up. Otherwise should refrain from writing as such in an opinion column. Even Mr. Malik changed his tune.
At the present political climate, all America and India have to do is just sit tight and let the events unfold with Haqqani, FM Mullah and alike.
PAK should come out of her caccoon and move forward for her own prosperity.
Such fantasies are necessary to prop up an imaginary external threat, and a huge military budget and foreign and defense policy controlled by the army to counter that imaginary threat. When the educated and middle class are made to believe that we are the focus of global politics due to ideological and geopolitical reasons, it injects a false sense of pride and endears them to the military who they believe is the only institution defending the country from global conspiracies. Myths are sustained through constant propaganda to maintain credibility and legitimacy e.g people believe that we never lost a war in history; the only defeat that led to break up of the country was a Jewish conspiracy against the citadel of Islam. It’s all about control over local resources.
One word: Brilliant
India undoubtedly supporting Baloch insurgency ! How did you know that?
Well articulated and unbiased. Please keep writing
I am speechless! That was some blunt message! You should prepare yourself from the ghairat brigade onslaught. :)