Dawat-e-Islami comes under military’s radar

Published: September 12, 2011
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" [Salmaan Taseer’s assassination] has changed our opinion about the organisation," Intelligence source.

ISLAMABAD: In an unprecedented move, military authorities in Pakistan have decided to curtail the activities of a proselytising organisation in their ranks after reports by intelligence agencies warned that its growing influence in the armed forces will have serious implications.

Dawat-e-Islami, an ostensibly apolitical Barelvi proselytising organisation, had never been under the strict watch of security agencies until now, primarily because of its non-violent religious views.

That appears to have changed after the assassination of former Punjab Governor Salmaan Taseer in January this year by one of the elite police guards in his security detail, who was believed to be a follower of Dawat-e-Islami.

Mumtaz Hussain Qadri, the self-confessed assassin of the late governor, is thought to be the first person affiliated with the organisation to publicly use violent means in the name of religion.

(Read: ‘Osama and Obama bad, Qadri good’)

“That incident has changed our opinion about the organisation,” said a source in the intelligence agency which recently compiled a report about the growing activities and influence of Dawat-e-Islami in the armed forces.

“We do understand it was an isolated event but we cannot be complacent now,” the source added, justifying the decision to put Dawat-e-Islami under the radar in military.

According to the intelligence report, the contents of which have been shared with The Express Tribune, not only is the influence of Dawat-e-Islami increasing in the armed forces, its followers in the military have become the organisation’s key source of funding.

“Over Rs20 million were collected from the Pakistan Air Force for the organization, during the month of Ramazan,” said a security official who requested to remain anonymous.

Founded by Ilyas Qadri in 1980 in Karachi, Dawat-e-Islami has hundreds of thousands of followers in Pakistan and abroad. The organisation has its own website and a TV channel called ‘Madani TV’.

Downplaying the move

A military official, when approached, tried to downplay the move by authorities to stop the growing influence of Dawat-e-Islami in the armed forces.

“It is nothing new. We have zero-tolerance for all such organisations within the military,” the official insisted. He acknowledged that Dawat-e-Islami has a following in the armed forces but it is not unusual.

“You can’t stop individuals practicing their own religious beliefs, if they are not violating the military discipline,” he argued.

Pakistan armed forces personnel are often accused by the west of having links with religious extremists.

In June, the army confirmed that it had detained one of its senior officers, along with four other military personnel, for links with the banned Hizbut Tahrir.

Brigadier Ali Khan and four unnamed majors have been in the military’s custody since then.

Published in The Express Tribune, September 12th,  2011.

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Reader Comments (76)

  • Bilal
    Sep 12, 2011 - 7:30AM

    About time.

    Why is religion sects color language the center of ever thing in Pakistan.
    It’s about tine. Religious extremism be forcefully controlled.

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  • Mirza
    Sep 12, 2011 - 7:54AM

    The army officers are given the best salaries and perks in Pakistan. They are paid to be a good fighter and not spend paid time on anything else. It may be alien to some people but it is like stealing from work. They should do anything personal including religion outside of the work and in their own time. If this is not controlled then like our cricket team the army would become professional mullahs and not soldiers. Look at the shining example of Turkey which has the best military in any Muslim country. Nobody can even think of them as surrendering more than half of the country. Looks like chicken have come home to roost for Pakistan army!

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  • sajid
    Sep 12, 2011 - 8:34AM

    AOA;

    i am not from Dawat-e-Islam but this news realy hurts me.the bad leaders are feared that they will be killed like salman taseer…thats why they are doing this….second they are doing every thing to please the international comunity.i am phatan but Dawat-e-Islam is good organization.
    their function is similar to tablighi jumat that is to bring people to islam………Dear reader it looks like there will be great battle between these currupt people and good people of pakistan…nd ofcourse good people will win.

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  • sumeet
    Sep 12, 2011 - 9:01AM

    what about jamaat ud daawah and laskhar e toiba?when will they come under radar?

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  • ibrar khan
    Sep 12, 2011 - 9:09AM

    Apart from purging their own ranks of the militants, the army should also do something about the spread of extremism in the country.
    I think they should also try to stem the tide of all and sundry extremists in the country and don’t leave the hapless masses tat the mercey the of the militants, many of whom boast of contacts with the Establishment.

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  • xOYA
    Sep 12, 2011 - 9:09AM

    Oh God help us all . I hope they suceed in removing this problem from the roots or else it will be HELL here

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  • Born Again Pakistani
    Sep 12, 2011 - 9:14AM

    i think it is too little too late. even if army now thinks these elements are dangerous the damage to the army and their infilteration is complete. they wont be able to flush out the silent cadre…

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  • M. Uzair Sukhera
    Sep 12, 2011 - 9:27AM

    Dear Mr. Mirza. Are you a military specialist or what? Your love for Turkish army is out of secularism? Do you have established proofs that Pakistan Army men are involved in religious activities during duty hours? I think they are free to practice their religion in off hours and you certainly can not complain about it!. If you had a iota of understanding of Pakistan Army’s modus operandi you would know that intelligence keeps strict tabs on religious activities and almost all religious organizations are curbed in army. Criticism is free if its not on you right?

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  • Chaudhry Allah Daad
    Sep 12, 2011 - 9:31AM

    Why agencies are showing anger towards D.I..In army and other government departments all religious and extremist groups have strong presence.

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  • GeoPakistan
    Sep 12, 2011 - 9:41AM

    They should have done long time ago.

    “Dar Ayaa, Durust Ayaa”.

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  • najam chaudhry
    Sep 12, 2011 - 9:45AM

    i wont argue with funded media and over liberalized minds, why not islam in army ….. and dont just use the word “MULLA” to just all allegations. Best fighters were the ones who were practising Muslims and had the biggest empire in world :) …
    when STAR-PLUS was banned in all of pakistan, it was available in all cantonments, SO may b it provided a better motivation to fight ….

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  • SJ
    Sep 12, 2011 - 10:07AM

    @Mirza:
    Perks for Majors and above only. Salary not good overall. Only Tishan. You must have heard of paying peanut and getting …………..
    So that’s what you have in Pakistan. Sad thing is they are not just at the lower level but right up to the top level, only difference is big ones and small ones. Through Darwin’s theory of natural selection one of them gets to go right to the top.

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  • biryani
    Sep 12, 2011 - 10:23AM

    west wanted to promote sufi and individualistic form of islam both in army as well as nation, primarily becoz of its limited view and not the global view of islam…. the Jama’at perfectly suits them and has been promoted of late to all time high…. given access to army garrisons…..

    but now it seems, any form of Islam is just dangerous…. y not make pak a atheistic state as Islam and secularism don’t go togather ….

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  • Ahmed
    Sep 12, 2011 - 10:45AM

    I think this is not a good idea to tease an organization who is working for pure islamic cause and the best part is its non political.

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  • muhammad naveed
    Sep 12, 2011 - 11:17AM

    how were these people allowed to collect Rs. 2 crores from the airforce ?? and how much did they collect from the other sections of the armed forces?

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  • Sep 12, 2011 - 11:44AM

    There are two very important words beginning with the letter “E.” These are EDUCATION and ECONOMY. In sixty-four years there is nothing much to show for literacy and progressive development.
    Our leaders are still hunkering for charity ever since it can be remembered and this leaves the citizens disgusted. It is for this reason that the village molvi reigns supreme and through half-baked interpretations ignites the illiterate person to extreme and murderous actions.
    Only through forceful action on the economic, educational and military front will it diminish and that too minus USA. Salams to our beautiful country.

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  • ahsan mir
    Sep 12, 2011 - 11:51AM

    Mr Mirza…..
    first of all i want to clarify one thing..army persons do not get the best pay in pakistan….as u r sitting abroad and you are unaware of ground realities ..they get the same pay as any govt official of same grade…however i totally agree that professional excellence should never be compromised due to their personal indulgence in religious/non-religious activities rather they should be punished accordingly….However at the same time i will request you not to demonstrate your personal prejudice for greater good…thanks

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  • Chilli
    Sep 12, 2011 - 11:56AM

    Dawat-e-Islami is the biggest land grabber of Karachi. Army should look in to this matter too.

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  • Iftikhar-ur-Rehman
    Sep 12, 2011 - 12:40PM

    BETTER LATE THAN NEVER !!! Good start, hope this move is successful!!

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  • Parvez
    Sep 12, 2011 - 12:45PM

    We are great at closing the stable door after the horse has boltedRecommend

  • sunny
    Sep 12, 2011 - 12:53PM

    @Bilal
    Forcefully control religion (extremism) and let come liberalism of the west where everybody is free to have illicite relations. No prob – this is a personal matter.
    Qadri and Dawat-e-Islami were pushed to this extremism but then they are called “islamic extremist, fundamentalist, fanatic;;;;” reason – ignorance from Islam. Pl watch Dr Zakir Naiks video on Islam and Terrorism for enlightenment.

    @Mirza
    Been to Army camps??? Never I guess.
    No soldier or other armed forces personnel perfrom any other job then their official duty during their duty hours.
    Religious duty is ultimate duty for the muslim soldiers and officers if they like to perform it. No body force them.

    Why guys u are so sorryful being Muslims. Reasons _ ignorance from Islam and secondly too much preoccupied by the western values that even feel ashamed to be looked a Muslim. Pl pray Allah to give us true guidance and understanding of His Deen. Remember “Dunia muqaddar se aur Deen talab se – worldly share has been written while deen one gets if he desires it.”

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  • MUNIB
    Sep 12, 2011 - 12:54PM

    +ve step from PAK ARMY . . .
    more needed . . .Recommend

  • sam
    Sep 12, 2011 - 1:46PM

    finally they woke up … US has been giving out these kinda statements for years just like they were saying Osama is in Pakistan … problem is we always deny things and when we are victims of those things itself then we realize …

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  • Zia
    Sep 12, 2011 - 1:51PM

    People like Captan Kernal Sher should be removed from the Army? Just because of their appearance? Were Generals Yahya and Niazi “mullas”? No, yet the degree of their “professionalism” is not unknown to us now. And what about Musharaf’s doing politics while in uniform? Was that professionalism or plain breach of military discipline?

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  • Abdul Rehman Gilani
    Sep 12, 2011 - 2:23PM

    wow, look at all the “liberals” applauding the action. Dont worry liberals, your pathetic dream of secularism wont come true anyway, so enjoy these whilst you even can.

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  • Go Musharaff..GO Army
    Sep 12, 2011 - 2:39PM

    @sajid:
    I do believe you but if you want the currupt leader behind bars use the proper procedure and not killing them directly.

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  • Sep 12, 2011 - 3:01PM

    Assalamu alaikum to all Muslims,
    Pakistan is made on the name of Islam, It is ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN. Is it not enough for you @bilal to understand why is it so?
    Army did not get the independence, it was the greater influence of religious leaders who very significantly contributed in this sacred work. People now have become very pathetic?
    Who said to @Mirza that Pakistani army is in any way worse than Turkish army???? Such an idiot? The bravery and power of the religion is central in ISLAM. WHY DID MUSLIMS WIN THE BATTLE in the begining of ISLAM? the beliefs were strong and they did not fear to any one but ALLAH and You people are trying to separate it from you? Go to somewhere else with ur nonsense ideas…..

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  • Aamir
    Sep 12, 2011 - 3:15PM

    Dawat-e-Islami is making fun of religion through their channels. They are projecting what they call soft image of Islam by complete deviation from real teachings. May Allah save us from these quacks.

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  • FARHAN
    Sep 12, 2011 - 3:16PM

    @Chilli:
    Many masjids in karachi are built on grabbed land. Dawat e Islami is no exception. All sects masjids should come under scrutiny without any delay.

    Will Allah accept our namaz if we offer it is built on grabbed land (Qabza ki hui zameen)?

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  • Muhammad Adnan Shahid
    Sep 12, 2011 - 3:17PM

    I m not agree with u. Because Dawat e Islami is a harmless organization.

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  • Ahmed
    Sep 12, 2011 - 3:31PM

    Assalamu alaikum to all Muslims,
    Pakistan is made on the name of Islam, It is ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN. Is it not enough for you @bilal to understand why is it so?
    Army did not get the independence, it was the greater influence of religious leaders who very significantly contributed in this sacred work. People now have become very pathetic?
    @Mirza Who said you that Pakistani army is in any way worse than Turkish army???? The bravery and power of the religion is central in ISLAM. WHY DID MUSLIMS WIN THE BATTLE in the beginning of ISLAM? the beliefs were strong and they did not fear to any one but ALLAH and You people are trying to separate it from you? Go to somewhere else with ur nonsense ideas…..

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  • Ahmad
    Sep 12, 2011 - 3:34PM

    “army persons do not get the best pay in pakistan….” Wrong
    They get best pay among govt officials,no taxes,housing schemes,free education for children,plots,retirement benefits worth crores and then jobs in fauji cements,fertilizers,educational institutes which get govt subsidies worth billions only to find way in pockets of generals, brigadiers as perks. For more details read “Army Inc” by Ayesha Siddiqua.

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  • Sadia
    Sep 12, 2011 - 3:38PM

    @M. Uzair Sukhera:
    why such vehemence?

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  • Rashid
    Sep 12, 2011 - 3:45PM

    DawateIslami runs its own T.V. channel, and they are absolutely exposed to everyone. The donation they collect is done very openly, they even request for donations on Madani Channel. And people are motivated to give after seeing DawateIslami’s projects right in front of their eyes. Their main policy-making body i.e. “Markazi Majlis-e-Shura” does not endorse activities that go against the welfare of the state, and citizens. It is a progressive movement, and working for the good of Muslims in Pakistan, and abroad. They consider suicide-combing to be strictly forbidden, grabbing the land of the state as disallowed, and are very friendly people. The event of Mumtaz Qadri has surely alerted the army, but, as the official himself said: “We do understand it was an isolated event…”, I don’t think that army would find any problems with the organization as time passes. Any person who has seen Shaykh Ilyas Qadri’s question-answer session on 14th August would have a clear idea.

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  • sunny
    Sep 12, 2011 - 3:48PM

    Intelligence agencies do not see the reymond davies and its activities in Pakistan.but finds faults in the religious parties.BIG SHAME FOR Intelligence agencies of Pakistan. Intelligence agencies should be nipped in the mud.Where are the Intelligence agencies of Pakistan when America voilale our .Sovereignty .

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  • Zahid
    Sep 12, 2011 - 3:50PM

    What a pathetic move…………I have seen no one more peaceful and peace loving then

    Dawat-e-Islami

    Tableeghi Jamat

    Stop Saudi and influence in PK, who are funding only extremist madrassas in Pakistan. Saudis building universities in KSA but only madrassas spreading the wahabism in Pakistan….

    I have not seen any muslim more rigid then Wahabis influenced by KSA, no tolerance….STOP SAUDI INFLUENCE

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  • Usman Ahmad
    Sep 12, 2011 - 4:03PM

    Meethay meethay Islami Bhaiyo! We are no terrorists!….;-)

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  • Fortune Cookie
    Sep 12, 2011 - 4:19PM

    Wow, Guys we seem to be loosing focus!!!!!! It is not RELIGION that is causing the upheavels. It is the INTERPRETATION of the QURAN. Let us focus on EDUCATION to eradicate the FALSEHOOD. With proper education and an educated NATION, petty problems will be destroyed. Tolerance, Compassion, Truthfullness is what is revealed in the QURAN and i am sure that all of us LACK these simple qualities that is taught in the QURAN.

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  • Hammad
    Sep 12, 2011 - 5:35PM

    The whole nation of Pakistan in general is in a state of ambiguity & extreme disbelief that what really we want to achieve & where we want to take our nation so as High-ups or policy makers of our forces are running astray in quagmire. Without doing much hard efforts it can be easily found by browsing some social networking websites that what so-called religious ideology or cult in false wrap of religion & using name of Jihad actually working against, defaming & spreading humiliating views about state of Pakistan & its armed forces & that become much clearer after Pak Army’s anti-Taliban policy & Lal “Masjid” action because both cases were byproduct of same ideology & by only fighting extremists our forces are just busy in cutting branches while leaving root from where this extremism is nurturing & branches will continue to grow from here to there until root is intact. Dawat-e-Islami is just a part of a huge & broader picture of AhlusSunnah, the mainstream & without minor doubt the single dominating ideology all across in Muslim world before British arrival on Muslim lands with policy of “Divide & Rule” & creating divisions among Muslims by targeting religion & every person who’s head is in proper working condition can understand this what was the general religious picture of Muslim world before British arrival & what became after British. Defending it like showing lamp to sun that Dawat-e-Islami in every manner is purely non-extremist & pro-Pakistani organization & question marking its image is just a show of ideological bankruptcy & chaos of some undeserving people who have somehow reached to policy making positions.

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  • Sunni_5
    Sep 12, 2011 - 5:36PM

    It’s funny how the media calls the majority of Muslims in Pakistan for ‘Barelvi’. The reality is that they simply represent mainstream orthodoxy, and have done so for the last thousand years.

    Only the wahabis/najdis came later, and they are indeed a sect, a new one. Sponsored by Saudi petro-dollars, they have only caused sectarian fitnah everywhere in the Muslim world.

    Ahl usSunnah is still strong, and will remain so, regardless of what the najdis/liberals want to do. Recommend

  • Siraj Ahsan
    Sep 12, 2011 - 5:49PM

    And it proves that most of middle class Pakistanis are indoctrinated… they need therapy to see the right and wrong… islam is not the domain of these crooks in so called islamic organizations. I am so happy the fabric of society is crumbling.Recommend

  • White Russian
    Sep 12, 2011 - 5:49PM

    “That incident has changed our opinion about the organisation,” said a source in the intelligence agency which recently compiled a report about the growing activities and influence of Dawat-e-Islami in the armed forces.

    And now the members of this organisations are becoming capable of working as our strategic asset instead of wandering aimlessly. (He further added? Did he or it is my imagination?)

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  • Sep 12, 2011 - 6:02PM

    @Zahid: Yes! My brother, Saudi influence must stop promoting Madrassas and Wahabism in Pakistan. They dont allow it there and they influence our politicians to do as the Saudis want them to. Salams

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  • Sunni_5
    Sep 12, 2011 - 6:08PM

    @Bilal: Only someone who doesn’t know about wahabi-influence and terrorism can make such an absurd comment. Dawat-e-islami are a part of the Ahle-sunnat, mainstream muslims, who have backed Pakistan since the very beginning. Sectarianism, and fanatical pundits are the najdis, followers of Saudi oil petro-dollars. Recommend

  • Abdul Rehman Gilani
    Sep 12, 2011 - 6:20PM

    @sunny:

    I agree, they are spineless in front of the Americans.

    @Urdu Poetry boy and Ahmed:

    Dears, if liberals had that much intuition or intelligence, they would have understood that long ago.

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  • Mirza
    Sep 12, 2011 - 6:36PM

    @Ahmad: I agree with you. However, most people only saw my first half of the line. I have added perks like you practically spelled out. Thanks for the explaination. Not even the US army officers have such perks, like exclusive lands and societies.
    I have worked with ex-servicemen in the US including marines. They cannot even think of the powers and perks Pakistani army officers have. In addition, if the army officers are paid like all govt servants, then why their pay scales and perks are kept secret? Why are they not discussed and printed?
    Thanks and regards,

    Mirza

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  • Kamran Khan
    Sep 12, 2011 - 6:42PM

    This news is realy very bad I donot know they want to remove the islam from our every level

    one thing must be consider that if in our all level the religion is not there we will fail and beaten by non muslim. which is going on

    to act upon Islam is the only solution to become a power full on all level
    thats all

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  • ali
    Sep 12, 2011 - 6:55PM

    No matter how hard they try…islamic shariah will be impletemented..Recommend

  • Nisar
    Sep 12, 2011 - 6:56PM

    Good start for the army. These fundamentalists need to be rooted out from all organisations, as they are only following the interests of their own organisations and not the interests of Pakistan. Maybe the army can do what the corrupt politicians dont want to do because of their fear of Mullahs.

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  • Sep 12, 2011 - 6:57PM

    @sajid:
    Dear Sir, The Armed Forces must remain above all religion and sect feeling. They must look after each citizen in the same manner.Any one or any organisation that tries to spread hate must be dealt very severely.

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  • Sep 12, 2011 - 7:02PM

    @najam chaudhry:
    Any way you are beyond argument and reason, so why worry. Move on please.

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  • Ali Tanoli
    Sep 12, 2011 - 7:23PM

    @ Sunni-5
    I think S.T sunni tehreek is very peacefull party and salim qadri was follower of illyas qadri
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  • R S JOHAR
    Sep 12, 2011 - 8:34PM

    Better late than never is applicable in the present case but the damage has already been done. As per Western defence analysts, approximately fifteen percent of the miltary has already been radicalised which includes the officers as well.

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  • Sep 12, 2011 - 8:58PM

    I think this story is bit misleading, we all knew that what Mumtaz Qadri did was isolated event though growing danger is that if liberal keep inciting such violence then we will loose the liberty in this country of practicing our religion and free speech. Currently both sides are trying to go for extremes and this is creating more mess than it should be.

    @Mirza , i have been following you and i dont understand your views at all as it seems quietly blind focused and focusing on a particular agenda which is obvious from your comments in this news too.
    Just for the information, I am working for a british company and i still be able to practice all the religious duties including Prayer and others and never been a hindrance to my work here. Similarly, a muslim wherever it is working, some duties are attached to it and i cant understand how any institution either its Army or anyone else can object to it. Its just a basic human right unless those activities are anyway against the law (surely those activities does not come within the practicing Islam anyway).
    My growing fear is that people who are practicing Islam start to become alienated in Pakistan as they are starting to feel in Europe or US. this sense of being victim creates an oppressive society and then you see the growth of fundamentalism which is hurting to Pakistan these days.
    I have myself spent few years in my Dawat-e-islami in my childhood and know their teachings quite well and never find any issue with that. there might be questions about their teaching as a sect but nothing what i would worry about as terrorism. I found it so lame that our agencies are not focusing their operation on those organizations which are openly associated with such activities but rather they keep finding problems with the people who are practicing Islam peacefully.
    Similarly there is been debate within the comments about secularism and Quad-i-azam etc. Can i ask a question did Quad made Pakistan alone without any argument. It has been quite apparent that Pakistan was demanded on the basis of Islam and that was one of the reason many indians who knew wont benefit Pakistan still supported the homeland. I found it surprising that recent surge of people who start debating about this issue dont read the history properly and then start blaming here and there.

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  • Doctor
    Sep 12, 2011 - 9:51PM

    To all of those who resent Mirza’s comment claiming that the Turkish Armed Forces are much better than the Pakistan Armed Forces, riddle me this: When has Pakistan won a war? Keep thinking.

    We hold our Armed Forces in very high esteem but the reality is they aren’t very good. We spend a massive percentage of our GDP on them. I’m not saying the average soldier is well paid. He is not. But the generals are living the good life in Islamabad.

    How did our generals fare in 1948? 1965? 1971? 1999? Swat? South Wazirstan? They can’t beat the terrorists ??Recommend

  • Ali Asad
    Sep 12, 2011 - 11:27PM

    As far i know Nothing is hidden abt Dawat e Islami.They are a Peacful Organization and they are open to anyone.
    They are Related to Sufism and on MADNI CHANNEL they openly speak against terrorism.
    Moreover those who know about thm they ll surly tell that they have a soft image.

    What i have seen is that they have always preached to abide by the rules of a states no matter in Pakistan or outside Pakistan.

    Every organization has the right to propagate ISLAM and collect fund for its legal activities.

    and YES i agree its important and necessary to keep a check on all organizations either political,religious or social.

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  • atif
    Sep 13, 2011 - 12:20AM

    Bad start for army because Pakistan is a muslim country.Dawate islami is pathetic move.

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  • Drone
    Sep 13, 2011 - 1:01AM

    Interesting how all the comments here are about the Army while this specific issue exists in the PAF and they are the ones behind this move.

    The Army is more inclined towards the Deobandi school of thaught which leaves little room for the Barelvi school of thaught.

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  • Moz
    Sep 13, 2011 - 1:03AM

    If Dawat-e-Islami is a peaceful organization, which is a lie then why did they Mumtaz Qadri. Stop enough with the crap of peaceful organization, they are not peaceful.

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  • Moz
    Sep 13, 2011 - 1:06AM

    @Usman Bashir

    What about the alienation of people who don’t want to follow Islam as strictly, or people of different faith? What is it about these religious people that they can’t be held accountable? Are these people god?

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  • Amar
    Sep 13, 2011 - 2:33AM

    Dawat e islami is no terroist organisation. Mumtaz Hussain Qadri said he followed dawat eislami not that the was told to do it by dawat eislami.

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  • Mohsin
    Sep 13, 2011 - 3:04AM

    I think that its a personal act of Mumtaz Qadri…and it should not be linked to dawat e Islami which is just a religious and non political organization of Quran and sunnat…The doors of dawateislami is opened for everyone but it doesnt mean that whatever a person would do is ordered by any Dawateislami personnell…I do also think that ISI shouldd try to work within their domains efficiently enough to limit the incidents like Abottabad operation and Mehran Air base attack,instead of just blaming and spoiling the image of any organization..secondly pratisind islam is not a sin…we are muslims and we have to practise the laws of islam..If we are not practicing,its our fault but ISI has no right to limit the pracitsing of islam in Army..The Mighty army of the era of Hazrat Umar Farooq was an islam practising army and how well they succeded is like an open book…so if army people will not practise islam then whom they are fighting for????they are fighting for the RAZA of ALLAH…so practising islam will surely boost up their morale…

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  • Infidel Humanist
    Sep 13, 2011 - 6:17AM

    @sumeet:

    what about jamaat ud daawah and laskhar e toiba?when will they come under radar?

    You don’t understand. JuD and LeT and not killing Pakistani politicians (at least not yet), so they are useful tools.

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  • Lazarus
    Sep 13, 2011 - 10:25AM

    “Over Rs20 million were collected from the Pakistan Air Force for the organization, during the month of Ramazan,” said a security official who requested to remain anonymous.

    Its a disgrace that how news is tampered on the daily basis in media these days, Dawat-E-Islami only asks for donations in month of Shaban, Ramadan and Rajab to run their expenses, Their Maktab-tul-Madinah (Which gives education to students to become Alim-e-Deen) these Maktab’s are established in over 140 Countries and have an yearly expense of 20 Million PKR, Their tv channel (Madni Channel) have expense of over 0.85 Million PKR a day (They don’t display any ads likewise other Islamic channels do), They have over 45+ Sectors that have expenditure over 70-80 Million PKR each year. I never liked Dawat-E-Islami ever my entire life but since I have tuned in properly and understood I have realized that they are the most peaceful organization which truly reflect the teaching of Quran-E-Kareem, Prophet Muhammad S.A.W etc. And If you talk about arms and ammo every visit Faizan-E-Madina they don’t have anything else than sticks and local guards.

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  • Mani
    Sep 13, 2011 - 2:36PM

    @Usman Bashir:

    Why not you write bolgs…I am really impressed what you wrote.
    And Its time to do Jihad with Pen not with the Blasting bombs into the peoples praying in masjid……

    I am observing since last six months that some writers of this tribune are writing againts islam or trying to show thats mullahs are not good and secularism is good bla bla bla..
    (Intentionally)

    And I see some commentators here are trying to projecting Turkey as a model state of Muslims, And Personally I like too and turkey’s economic devleopement in last 2 decades is amazing… but its all about education. And no religion prohibits Education so Their Development does not belongs with their Sucalrism title. Infact Secularism title is bringing more wines legally in Turkey and Now Turkey is in the top of list in the most wine users in Europe.

    On the Other Hand Alhumdulillah when I am writing this reply I am not sure regarding the correct spelling of wine……

    Regarding Army….. Pakistan Army is to save Pakistan.. An Islamic Country where people are allow to follow Islam without any huddles…. And here some poeple are suggesting that Army should not follow and should not learn just focus on to defence… No matter to whom you provide shelters Islamic Terrorist ( ALQaida Or TTP ) or Islamic Peace supporting Tanzeems ( Dawat e Islamic or other non violant ) …. And Last, For every Muslim Its necessary to learn religious Education..and PAK ARMY IS MUSLIM….

    I know some wrongly secular mind people will not agree with me but its your duty to write if you can…….

    From….
    ( SECULAR )

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  • Abdul Rehman Gilani
    Sep 13, 2011 - 3:03PM

    @Mani:

    truth flows in your words.

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  • Bewildered Indian
    Sep 13, 2011 - 6:36PM

    How come there are so many “proselytizing” organizations in Pakistan when 99% of population is already Muslim?

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  • Muddasar
    Sep 13, 2011 - 11:10PM

    Well i m not the supporter of Dawat e Islami (as m a Deobandi) but i see the dawat e islami moment non violent BUT as a matter of fact “Madani Channel” should be banned because those guys have made religion a funRecommend

  • Expert Analysis
    Sep 14, 2011 - 2:06AM

    This is not enough. Pakistan’s Armed Forces (Air Force, Army, Marines, Navy) all needed cleansing from extremists elements. The doctrine instigated or rather infused in the blood of Pakistan’s Armed Forces during General Zia’s regime for supporting US lead First Afghan War against Soviet Union is the root cause. We need to eliminate General Zia’s supporters, his policies and those who think he was a great general.

    Religious parties in Pakistan Jamaat-e-Islami, Deobandis, Braelvis, Sufis etc. were all against the creation of Pakistan yet they hijacked the whole of Pakistan and now they want to bring the country to non-existent.

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  • Observer
    Sep 14, 2011 - 6:38AM

    @Mirza:
    “They should do anything personal including religion outside of the work and in their own time”

    It is too late to ask for that now, isn’t it? When the nation is created in the name of Islam and then it is institutionalized in the constitution, how can religion be kept outside the personal domain? You can’t have it both ways. To do what you are asking, Pakistan has to declare itself as a secular state and rewrite the constitution. Do you think it will ever happen? Countries that declare themselves as Islamic countries will move in one direction only, namely, that of increasing emphasis of religion in public life and politics.

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  • Khadim Husain
    Sep 14, 2011 - 7:16AM

    Such organizations were breeded by Musharraf, and later current Government openly supported them, even Shah Mahmood Qureshi addressed at Multan to strengthen same sect. Army used same sect as proxy warrior to seek decrees against Taliban. It looks that it was policy of establishment to support extremists for their purposes. This report is nothing and looks like propaganda to remove black slur from the face of army that it is involved in sectarian practices.

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  • Abdul Rehman Gilani
    Sep 14, 2011 - 10:26AM

    @Expert Analysis:

    Then how come secular ANP( and former NAP) was charged with breaking up Pakistan! Heck I have never heard Jamaat-e-Islami being charged with breaking up Pakistan! Oh and what about Zulfiqar Mirza’s outburst against “secular” MQM!

    So keep your pathetic analysis to yourself, religion is an innate part of our psyche, and no “liberal” can remove it.

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  • laal
    Sep 15, 2011 - 4:19AM

    due to these religious groups and personals our society became a bright and visible shape of hill in this world, and i thing the Armed forces are already influenced by these so called religious ideologies. i thing that army should take strong steps against any involvement of religion in the armed forces and also should dis mental public speeches by the religious personals

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  • arshea
    Sep 15, 2011 - 8:01PM

    I am not the associated with dawat islami but i think that Dawat islami is promoting the true teaching of islam. They are doing great job for Muslims . may God give wisdom to those ,who are against the dawat islami . may god bless upon the leaders as well as all the lovers of dawat islami. zinda abad dawiat islami

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  • Sep 21, 2011 - 12:10PM

    If you connect Mumtaz Qadri to Dawat-e-islami this will be not fare becuase there are so many people of belong to Qadri silsila but not all belong to Dawat-e-Islami. What ever Mumtaz Qadri had don this is his own decision. Dawateislami never preach the people to kill any one even non muslim. They never preach for extreemisim. They only preach for Qabar and Akhirate. Recommend

  • Shahpar
    Oct 22, 2011 - 8:41AM

    @Rashid:
    Salam yeah bro i just completely agree with u…well-said!

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