Home Minister, while speaking on a debate in Rajya Sabha on internal security on Thursday, said there were indications of involvement of an Indian module in the July 13 Mumbai blasts that killed 26 people. It was the first time that the Indian government pointed towards involvement of a home grown terror group for the three explosions in the metropolis.
Chidambaram said all over the world right-wing fascist forces were on the rise and India is no exception to it. "While no conclusion has been reached, all indications point to an Indian module," he said about the Mumbai blasts, adding that perhaps it could be the same module that carried out a blast in the German Bakery in Pune last year, too.
"We cannot live in denial. We cannot close our eyes to facts. There are home grown modules. They do not belong to one religion," Chidambaram said. He said Pune and Mumbai blasts were "two major plots" in last 32 months since he had assumed the charge of Home Minister.
"I accept it," he said.
He said another mistake was pointing fingers at a particular religion whenever a bomb blast took place. Describing the period from 2002 to 2008 as the worst phase of terrorism, he said there was a "failure to recognize" growth of the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) and Indian Mujahideen in these years at the political and government level.
Chidambaram added that Indian security forces have so far eliminated 51 terror modules in the last two years.
"We have successfully busted a number of modules. Terrorism has taken a new dimension and it not only affect the nation's security but may even affect the nation's survival as one entity," he said
He said India lived in a troubled and vulnerable neighbourhood, as the epicenter of terrorism has shifted to Afghanistan and Pakistan from West Asia.
"As long as the epicenter of terrorism is in this region, we continue to be under the shadow of terror and continue to be vulnerable," he said. Citing terror attacks in other parts of the world, he said it was a myth that the US was free from any terror attack after 9/11.
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You will be in denial as long as your kins doesn't gets killed by the terror modules. Here home grown terror outfit is none other than RSS and all its sister organization who owns illegal bomb factories and the actions can't be taken against them because of the support from communally biased people like you
Finally chidambaram stopped blaming game on Pakistan. Time has come that he should take serious steps to suppress his home ground terrorists.
Only wise who admit their mistakes can overcome their problems however big they may be, but fools who always remain in mode of denials suffer in the long run.
@Incredible: only a fool like u, good turn a news story exposing india into a pak bashing one..get a life MQM gets its funding from India
To my fellow Pakistani citizens : Mr Chidambaram here pointed out Indian involvement in the recent attacks. How does that gives other Pakistani originated attackers a clean chit ? Similarly if we find certain terrorists in our country does not give clean chit to India for whatever trouble it may be creating in Balochistan. At least the home minister here showed a progressive stance of accepting there are internal elements besides external elements who terrorize India. This put them in better position to fix their house and this is the first step. We have yet to take such steps. Until recently Malik blamed foreign hand at Mehran attack, also more surprisingly he claimed foreign hand in Karachi attack. If we continue to spread such lie without any proof to substantiate our claim, whole world will just look us as a paranoid nation. Steps by Chidambaram has to be encouraged and followed in our country if we need to solve our problems. I am sad certain of my brothers are using this as an excuse to shift focus on India. How is this a good news to us ? Why are some of us getting so happy that India accepted local involvement ? We are in constant need of such kicks to keep ourselves happy to see India has problems. Which country does not ? The ones who progresses are the ones who accept their problems and fix it. Khuda Hafiz!
@Aadersh: That day will never come. Come out of denial mentality.
@Saleem Siddiqui
Hafeez Saeed is just a preacher? Seriously?!
He founded LeT, and JuD. Both are proscribed terrorist organizations by UN. He too would've been declared a wanted terrorist, if it wasn't for your 'all weather friend'.
The reality is next time when China wants to veto Pakistan's strategic assets, it'll have to think twice about its own territory, which is also being attacked by your 'innocent preachers'.
India is not a peace of paradise where angels live....it is a country of over billion people having different races, religion and objectives....
just see this video and you will see how brutally a man was beaten to death in india.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V2W2npJDIg
@Dr. Saleem Siddiqi: Doc, Jamat ud dawa (JUD) banned by UN. Anywhere in world no NGO workers or social activists flash AK- 47 guns because they don't required it to do social work. What I mean is AK47 does not go along with social work. Is it ok? India has local terrorists and we are working on it.
@Faisal: You need to understand the fact that core of the problem in europe is that very tolerant society and communities across the continent, have welcomed the Asylum Seekers and Refugees, of which majority are Bogus, with open arms!! Yet these people abuse their systems and never make any attempts to intergrate with the indegenous people of the host country, hence the resentment generated within the local people and sadly once in a while the outcome is incidents like Norway !!! Can you actually blame this people??? Put yourself in their shoes and enlighten me as to what would you have done to these sort of people, had they been in Pakistan ??? I dread to think of that particular scenario!!!!!
@Mohammad Ali Siddiqui: You got it. Hello Indian Bloggers hope you have got authentic response from the Indian Home Minister P. Chidambaram.
Now please repeat please do not over-crowd this august forum with un-necessary shouting on Hafiz Saeed and leave him alone. He is simply a member of Dawaa (Islamic preaching) and a Social Worker.
Regards
Dr. Saleem Siddiqi Johannesburg - South Africa
@Jahanzaib Haque: Thanks web desk for quick action.
@Faisal: Still Norway is the most tolerant country in Europe. They have done great jobs in peace missions. Ofcource the exception is always there. Ask pakistanis, are they ready to go to Norway?
@asif: First save mohajirs in karachi, first create minority marriage laws, First start respecting constitution of pakistan then talk about India.
@moderator: Word Hindian is racist. Is this word allowed then there are many racist words for pakistani people. Are you going to allow them? Is there any policy against racism or not.?
@asif: Word hindian is a racist word which you are using for offennsive purpose. Is it acceptable for you if we use similar sort of words for pakistani people?
Dear Chidambaram How long you people deny them their reservation rights on jobs and in school admissions what about the sacher comittee report implementation. So long the majority hindu in one or other way deny them their basic minority rights surely they are going to make bombs and kill people Idle man's mind devils workshop
@Shahbaz Younis...you make me laugh Shahbaz.
Progression doesn't mean turning 1 billion people into middle class overnight.
India is adding about 30 million people into its middle class every year. You do the math.
How many are you turning into middle class, every year?
@Shahbaz Younis: on Narayanamurthy
source :- http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=in&v=69
Country 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 India 35 35 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25 25
Povery has been reduced to from 35 to 25% over the past 10 years.
Now tell me, who is sensible and who is not ???
@Fahad Raza: I suggest that you need to read my comments more carefully. I neither blamed Pakistan for the recent bomb blasts in Mumbai nor denied the same having been carried out by some home grown terrorists. However, I must have commented a number of times on ET that your military must take action against all terrorists outfits in Pakistan and not consider some of them as its assets since this ill-concieved policy will back-fire and prove to be self-destructive one day. It is up-to you to decide whether my comments are against or for welfare of Pakistan. Best wishes and good luck. R S Johar, India.
@ Dear Ashok, Lol... at "Tolerant Societies in Europe", I think your memory is short termed, i would like to remind you about the recent "Norway" incident where more than 100 people were killed by a local man. If you call it a tolerant society then i am afraid my friend that your analysis is far far from truth.
Terrorism is a mind state irrespective of religion and yes all terrorism is not equal.
@asif: " .... They have the wrong number here. Other are hopping mad that we stand in their way to ‘India Shinning’ and lot of them use a lot of words on these pages to prove themselves superior. We will stand guard against any attempts by the Hindian move to act as local Chaudary and you can bet on it .... "
Asif bhai, it will do you real good if you stop watching re-runs of Zaid Hamid's Brasstacks episodes and watch other programs as well. In one of your current affairs programs, ex-US Ambassador Riaz Khokhar remarked that one major flaw with Pakistanis in general is that they have this overblown sense of self importance vis-a-vis their position and importance in the modern world. You should take what he said to heart and tone down the belligerence.
On the issue of being a local Chaudary - India is not at all interested. Becoming a Chaudary is the easiest way to bankrupt a nation. Look at what happened to USSR, look at what is happening to USA and if China keeps on over-extending, by trying to be everywhere, the outcome will be the same.
I think we should not be indulge in blaming each other, if Indian Minister has spoken good words, we should encourage them. Pakistan should also take firm action against terrorist. It is a good gesture if Indian Minister has accepted the reality. Well-done..
The truth has finally slipped from the tongue of Indian home minister.All the hype created against Pakistan and specially ISI by Indian government/ media has become a wastepaper basket material.What about usa media who were bent upon to involve Pakistan in the matter.The media must come up with objective reporting instead of putting up a subjective reporting.This formula also fits at Pakistani electronic media and print media where the things are spread without proper investigations /probing in many cases and without anticipating their effect on general public specially law and order situation specially in Karachi..
@Fahad Raza:
Remember Home Minister also said,
“As long as the epicenter of terrorism (Pakistan) is in this region, we continue to be under the shadow of terror and continue to be vulnerable,”
This is more sensible, isn't ?
@narayana murthy:
Sir, Mr.Bangash is c/o ET, hopes this explains.
Viva La SIMI!
Chidambaram is only stating facts, and it isn't new. only new thing is that Chidambaram said this in parliament.
It's been known for a long time that there are Indian groups, Chidambaram and others have pointed this out earlier too. There are a bunch of Hindu extremists who are in jail. There are far too many SIMI & Indian Mujahideen terorrists who are in jail and being prosecuted. Dawood Ibrahim gang continues to be a threat.
But, it is a stretch to say that India faces threat from india grown Hindu & muslim terrorists. It doesn't. they have a nuisense value, just like LeT or JeM, but unlike Pakistan trained & hosted terrorists, they lack sophisticated weapons, and they can't cause an international incident.
The real problem of international terrorism is that, they can bring countries to war. That's a far bigger problem than terror attacks themselves.
@narayana murthy
O really u r progressing :D It makes me laugh.... dear 41.6% of ur population falls below the poverty line n u said u r progressing in what...? If u don't believe this just check it out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PovertyinIndia
Next time use the progressing word sensibly ...
Thank God this guy got some senses....
I wonder if this chindabawangamanga is talking about the RSS/BJP?
Once in a while Indians speak a little bit of truth.
@Bangash, who cheaply writes "Indian trolls on ET will be gasping for breathe from Mr Chidambaram’s punch in their stomach !!!"
We Indians are progressing because we can always see our mistakes and correct them. You pakistanis are regressing because you always, invariably repeat the same mistake.
FOR EXAMPLE, Bangash makes the same mistake of abusing the Indians on this forum, because he cannot hear the truth coming from us. You will keep regressing, being ignorant.
Saeed says "I remember when this Mumbai attack happened I pointed fingers towards Indian mujahadeens and the discrimination and abuses against muslims in india which led to this home grown terror..not a single indian was ready to face the truth…may be now they can introspect and see what impact kashmir, Gujrat riot and issues like babri masjid can have in india if they dont deal with it properly"
Hope your first name is not Hafeez.
Now, coming to your points. You say "not a single indian was ready to face the truth". You thought so, because you are ignorant. Indians knew all along that there's a group of Muslim religious fundamentalists in india, who are hellbent in bringing Sharia in India. Bangalore cricket stadium blasts was blamed on Indian Mujahideen. By the way, guess who are these people linked to - Pakistani terrorist outfits. India has never blamed anything on Pakistan that we believed was conducted by indian muslims. Even Samjhauta express blasts were sorted out quickly.
You say "may be now they can introspect and see what impact kashmir, Gujrat riot and issues like babri masjid can have in india if they dont deal with it properly"
It has got nothing to do with Kashmir or Gujrat or Babri masjid. Muslims generally tend to be highly religious (in a bigoted way). And many tend to become terrorists and extremists. Recently there was a news that in London Muslims (again from Pakistan) were declaring Sharia Zones. Muslims don't need reasons to be fundamentalists. Also, FYI both Kashmir issue and Gujrath attrocities were started by Muslims.
And Babri masjid was started by a Muslim king, when he built a mosque over a temple.
atleast indians have the guts to say the truth and fight it openly. Our Govt and common people search for conspiracy theories right from the start. We live in denial in every fault of ours. We try to search some one else to put the blame. This shows our maturity compared to the Indians, US or other better nations who dont fudge the truth.
100% of this home grown terror is funded and supported from outside. he failed to mention that.
It is a very realistic approach and shows how strong morel courage Mr. Chidambaram possesses. Unfortunately we, the Pakistanis are bankrupt in this quality at civil and especially at military level. Morel courage is as important as physical courage and they go hand in hand for achieving any success. I wish our military and civil officers followed Indian Home Ministers example.
Dear Chidambaram We were telling you that from years ago... I m sure A day will come when Indian Home Minister will come out with a statement that "Indians were involved in 26/11"
Laaa la laa laaa'aaa
At least they don’t live in denial; here we are still looking for hidden hands, conspiracies and Hindu Zionists to explain 7500 bomb blasts that have resulted in 40,000 deaths. Taliban openly declare that they have carried out these blasts, but people say no, there has to be a conspiracy
Yes, only those down and out failures and college dropouts who are simp[ly beyond any capacity to deal with life in main stream, and from the very Community, following the doctrines from likes of HS, OBL and Jihad theories etc
I think the Indians are now talking some sense. The Hindu fundamentalist are feedng on and using Islam as a cover to create an Hindu state, in their imagination - like the Zionists in occupied Palestine - from Bengal in the East to Afghanistan to the West. The other elements are the oppressed Muslims and others wanting change and alleviation frm their oppression
If u have failed to reach conclusion then how can u say what is mistake and where not to point fingers? Anyway ur recogniton of epicenter of terrorism points to a neighbouring country from a particular religion. Home grown terrorist outfits like SIMI, Indian Mujahideen are paid agencies of ISI. After so much blood has been spilled we indians are vulnerable because of ur INACTION diplomatically and militarily. FED UP really.
Indian trolls on ET will be gasping for breathe from Mr Chidambaram's punch in their stomach !!!
That's sensible.. Unfortunately people like Ashok sai and RS Johar wont come out of this denial and blame PAK KISS TAN for even a dead cat in India.
Mr. Chidambaram, why are you beating around the bush ? Are you waiting for clearance from the Italian or her single digit IQ son ?
Well I cant trust my ears...does this guy just said that..India faces threat from 'home grown terrorist outfits'....I remember when this Mumbai attack happened I pointed fingers towards Indian mujahadeens and the discrimination and abuses against muslims in india which led to this home grown terror..not a single indian was ready to face the truth...may be now they can introspect and see what impact kashmir, Gujrat riot and issues like babri masjid can have in india if they dont deal with it properly...I hope in future comments to my reply there will be argument over this home grown terror of india not commnents of tit for tat and usual obsession with pakistan..we all know the situation is worse in pakistan but that does not mean that there are rivers of milk flowing in neighbour hood...
first time the truth coming out please tell the world another truth too kashmirs own people are fighting for for freedom of kashmir india.
India's Home Minister confesses that India does have home grown terror. That is call courage and truth. This is what India is in coming clean.
Pakistan's Home Minister's response is that "aliens hand" is involved in Karachi and whole of Pakistan. Lies, lies and more lies. That is Pakistan coming out clean.
Thank you Indian Home Minister P. Chidambaram for recognizing that there were indications of involvement of an Indian module in the July 13 Mumbai blasts that killed 26 people.
Dear Chidambaram: For each and every incident that took place at any place anywhere in India, your government always accused neighbourng country “Pakistan” and “ISI”.
This has paved the way for the Indian home grown terrorists to conduct terrorist activities in India, whereas all the Indian terrorists find themselves very much secured, as the Indian government was either blaming Government of Pakistan or the ISI.
This is just the beginning. With the passage of time, you will unearth more home grown terrorists groups in India that never came in the limelight, while you people kept on accusing Pakistan and ISI.
Thank you once again for accepting the reality.
its a total intelligence failure.and the shameless home minister is not ready to accept it.as long as we have people who never take responsibility and stern action against terrorist and their supporter,terrorism will continue.
Right approach by India. It is high time that nation all over keep the right wing in check. Religious intolerance and extremism is the major cause of communal crimes we are facing in our society today. The terrorists cares less on whom they target. They belong to no religion and no country. So being defensive only helps the terrorists to thrive because they count on emotional empathy from their own country men and religious brethren. It is time we stop defending them or supporting them and bring them to justice. Violence is no justification for any cause. No cause is greater than human life. May India and Pakistan work collectively to bring those behind such gruesome act to justice and may there be brighter future for our children. This is not impossible. Just need strong will and lot of effort to break the thick crust of animosity formed in last 65 yrs. Peace to all. Khuda Hafiz!
twisting fact and sensationalism has very much part of every newspaper throughout the world,aint it ET? first of all he said,i have a strong reason to believe that it is the same module that was behind pune attack.and the pune attack is linked to IM so obviously fingers are pointing towards IM.secondly he stated that these home grown terror module are getting constant support from across the border,which you did not stated anywhere in the news. a case of selective journalism.and i agree with him that we should keep a watch on rightwing forces,but not those who the govt think as right wing.but all rightwing in all religion.plane and simple.
Why doesnt Mr Chidambaram name the so called Indian module , which is the LeT sponsored SIMI Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI).
Its wrong to call them Indian modules.