Xinjiang unrest: China blames unrest on Pakistan-trained terrorists

By AFP
Published: August 2, 2011
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Kashgar local government said assailants learned explosive-making skills in terrorist-run camps in Pakistan. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

Kashgar local government said assailants learned explosive-making skills in terrorist-run camps in Pakistan. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

KASHGAR, CHINA: 

China has blamed terrorists trained in Pakistan for an outbreak of deadly violence and imposed heavy security on Monday in a bid to prevent further unrest.

Nineteen people were killed in two separate incidents in the ancient Silk Road city of Kashgar over the weekend in the latest wave of violence to hit the restive Xinjiang region, home to a mainly Muslim Uighur minority.

The Kashgar local government said in a statement on its website that the assailants who attacked a restaurant that left six dead on Sunday had learned explosive-making skills in terrorist-run camps in Pakistan.

“The heads of the group had learned skills of making explosives and firearms in overseas camps of the terrorist group East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) in Pakistan before entering Xinjiang,” the online statement said.

The attackers adhered to “extremist religious ideology” and advocated “jihad”, the statement also said.

Chinese authorities have accused the ETIM, which wants an independent homeland for Xinjiang’s Uighurs, of orchestrating attacks in the region on many occasions.

The US and the United Nations have listed the group as a “terrorist” organisation and China has previously said it has operations in Pakistan as well as Afghanistan.

But Pakistan said it would “continue to extend its full cooperation and support” to China’s government against the ETIM.

However, Xinjiang expert Michael Dillon told AFP there was little evidence the group had any links to Pakistan.

“What we’re seeing now is a repeat of China’s complete unwillingness to see that unrest inside its borders might stem from poor conditions,” said Dillon, an academic and author of the book “Xinjiang, China’s Muslim Far Northwest”.

Many of Xinjiang’s roughly nine million Turkic-speaking Uighurs are unhappy with what they say has been
decades of political and
religious repression, and
the unwanted immigration of China’s dominant Han ethnic group.

This tension has triggered sporadic bouts of violence in the resource-rich and strategically vital region bordering eight countries, including Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Sunday’s attack came less than 24 hours after eight people were killed and more than 20 others injured at a night market in Kashgar by two knife-wielding assailants, according to authorities.

Police also reportedly shot dead five attackers.

The Kashgar government statement did not mention the night market attack, but some state media reports  on Monday blamed both incidents on “terrorists”.

Published in The Express Tribune, August 2nd, 2011.

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  • Aristo
    Aug 1, 2011 - 12:46PM

    Is this the reason why the DG ISI has been summoned to China?

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  • Aamir
    Aug 1, 2011 - 1:11PM

    Now Pakistani soil against China?? this is a dangerous allegation and Pakistan need to see in different context as an attempt to disturb Pak China relationship.

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  • continental
    Aug 1, 2011 - 1:14PM

    learned explosive-making skills in
    terrorist-run camps in Pakistan

    pakistan qualified, ideal time for China to be in USA’s position, the next master, pakis, be ready to hang on

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  • woohoo
    Aug 1, 2011 - 1:25PM

    China is Pakistan’s bestest and closestest friend.

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  • pappu can dance
    Aug 1, 2011 - 1:46PM

    ohooooooooooooooooooooo,,, what happened??Recommend

  • FactCheck
    Aug 1, 2011 - 2:15PM

    China is the best friend, they will understand. Just between friends, right?

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  • pl/sql
    Aug 1, 2011 - 2:23PM

    Even your best friend will not tolerate terrorist attacks on their soil emerging from your country.

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  • Meekal Ahmed
    Aug 1, 2011 - 2:32PM

    A great way to antoginize a great friend. Train and send them into battle.

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  • chandran
    Aug 1, 2011 - 2:40PM

    now one more neigbour in trouble

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  • omg
    Aug 1, 2011 - 4:36PM

    “oh china, you tooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    not expecting that china will go for a war or there will be breakdown, china want pakistan for her economy, pakistan want china more for pride, but this is just a beginning. – pakistan will be a 50/50 ‘country’ for china and will keep a distance from pakistan.

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  • Dinesh Chetti
    Aug 1, 2011 - 4:37PM

    Why did not your all time and all weather friend did not say just say humans making bombs or terrorists, rather Muslim terrorists ? Think it guys. You can never have emotional relationship between countries. Diplomacy is a kind of business. When you make loss, you will be bound to pay for the loss. China will pop ……… out of Pakistan, if any major attack happens in future. Remember guys, neither China nor communist bureau members are not looser !

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  • AnisAqeel
    Aug 1, 2011 - 5:01PM

    After enjoying and finishing your meal in my house, please don’t break the plate per habit.

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  • vasan
    Aug 1, 2011 - 5:12PM

    Ha Ha Ha, The Chinese are coming too, To make Pakistan see some sense.

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  • anil
    Aug 1, 2011 - 6:50PM

    china is not at all a reliable country ,be it in diplomacy or in economic purposes.Pak won’t understand unless and until china takes some action against it.Already china’s companies have made pakistan’s home-grown companies dull.Pak should try to stand by its own.Let Pakistani people leave in their way.

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  • Asfar
    Aug 1, 2011 - 6:59PM

    This is a very serious matter that China is targetting our Muslim brothers Xinjiang province. Pakistan should take up this matter same way as we do for our kashmiri brothers in india. Pakistan should do evrything so that human rights of uighur muslims are saved. we should be ready to fight a war with china if needed- as we are powered by passion of islam. we cant tolerate our muslim brothers being thrown out from their homeland. i stongly oppose han chinese oppression.
    ALLAH HO AKBAR

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  • nasir
    Aug 1, 2011 - 7:16PM

    its dangerouse and likely to be the american and israel spy agencies

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  • Aug 1, 2011 - 7:33PM

    China cannot be Brutus to Pakistan and blame terrorists like other countries. As an all weather, all times friend, China should bear this small shock treatments now and then to consolidate friendship with its valued and different friend which the whole world hates.

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  • Akthar
    Aug 1, 2011 - 8:00PM

    Pakistan should also tell China to stop the oppression of Muslims in China. The BBC also reported earlier that China is brutally crushing the Muslims and Han Chinese are encroaching upon Uighers.

    Pakistan as a friend, must be allowed to negotiate a truce between Chinese & Uigher in ways advantageous to both.

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/08/01/xinjiang-attack-masterminded-by-terrorists-trained-in-pakistan-china.html

    Negotiations are only way & oppression wont take anyone anywhere like in Indian Occupied Kashmir.

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  • P N Eswaran
    Aug 1, 2011 - 8:09PM

    The Chinese know about Pakistan’s role in Uighur terrorism. With American cooling down with Pakistan and Pakistan’s attempting to pile on China, the Chinese are sending a loud and clear message to Pakistan to contain and destroy Uighur terrorists base in Pakistan as a pre-condition for China to think of any assistance to Pakistan.

    The challenge for Pakistan is to credibly address Chinese concerns.

    The ‘all weather friend’ having put Pakistan on notice the next turn will be that of ‘brotherly’ Iran to up the ante.

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  • Incredible
    Aug 1, 2011 - 8:50PM

    China has censored this news in the local papers. It is only a matter of time the Chinese people will come. When that happens they will take out their anger on Pakistanis living in China.

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  • Realist
    Aug 1, 2011 - 8:51PM

    @woohoo…. No bestest and closestest friends in this present world. Another 1 or 2 similar incident in future, china will bomb paki terror training camps. just wait and watch

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  • Ashutosh
    Aug 1, 2011 - 8:53PM

    Pakistan is just testing the patience of the civilized nations of the world !
    .
    They are in control of the situation so nothing to worry …

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  • Akhilesh, india
    Aug 1, 2011 - 11:17PM

    Why pakistan interfare in country like china or india and other state because their muslim brother is not well in concern country and send terrorist to kill innocent people in the name of islam. Just grow up pakistani people, this tradition trouble your country in coming days.Recommend

  • G. Din
    Aug 1, 2011 - 11:46PM

    @Akthar:
    “Negotiations are only way & oppression wont take anyone anywhere like in Indian Occupied Kashmir. “
    You are talking about yourself, right? It did not take you anywhere. We(India) are O.K. We never wanted to go anywhere, nor do we want to, nor shall we ever!

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  • Kasim.Lahore
    Aug 2, 2011 - 12:39AM

    @Akthar:
    @Asfar:
    Are you going mad? Already we are held up with lot of Internal issues within and External issues with India…

    Do you want to create one more front with China??? Dangerous thoughts… Please drop those thoughts….

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  • G. Din
    Aug 2, 2011 - 2:00AM

    Now “do more”s will start coming over the Karakorams!

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  • Vicram Singh
    Aug 2, 2011 - 2:16AM

    I hope I.S.I chief Pasha is able to sell the “non-state-actor” line to the Chinese.

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  • Dr. Salim
    Aug 2, 2011 - 4:23AM

    @Akthar: It is not in our strategic interest to fight for cause of lot many oppressed muslims throughout the world. With India it is more fun and very much in reach and we have made it our “core” issue. We are so busy in Kashmir that our leaders kept us busy dreaming about the lost cause and arming nations with weapon they will never use. It is a well known fact that easiest way to get filthy rich is getting kickbacks in arms deals. Not only our leaders sold us and our ghairatgiri to kafurs but also successfully gave us a dream of kashmir which is already lost in every aspect. For those of my brothers who still want to hang on to that cause and not do anything meaningful contribution to our beloved nation, go ahead, do so. But I had wished we had been a economically more table and independent country who dont need friendship with bigger allies like USA or China to stand against India. Look at Israel, it is a midget infront of Islamic nation it is surrounded by. We like it or not they keep all the Palestinians at bay. If they can stand strong and independent, why can’t we ? They got backing from USA so did we. How come we become more like a puppet and less of an asset to USA? What did we do wrong? Our obsession with Kashmir and India got us blind sided by the changes in the world. While we were plotting how to get Kashmir from India, they went ahead in economy and is now supported by once foe USA for arms and nuclear deals. Am I the only one who wonders what we were doing all this while. 65 years and we are very much at the same situation we began with. God bless your heart whoever gets agitated by my comment and wants to strike back. But think for a moment what I wrote. Maybe you will have better point to argue and give me hope. Khuda Hafiz!!!

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  • Aug 2, 2011 - 9:19AM

    CheenPak friendship is deeper than the oceans and highest than the mountains….such small incidents will not make any difference…lets not deviate from the core issue

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  • khan of quetta
    Aug 2, 2011 - 10:13AM

    everyday lot of ughars living in are sent to china when chinese ask for them the authorities have many times deported central asians from madrassas in waziristan the problem is that the government has little control over what goes in wazirristan as the waziris are fiersly independent

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  • Rehan Khan
    Aug 2, 2011 - 10:24AM

    We must understand that there is no permanent friendship in international relations. only national interests can bring two states to friendship and also antagonize them if their interests clashes. China has always shown zero tolerance towards any kind of uprising and opted for using ruthless measures to crush it. Sinkiang is also a worst case scenario, where Muslims majority have been denying by the communist regime of practicing their religious practices since long. Now the time has gone when one can subdue others forcefully.

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  • Aug 2, 2011 - 10:41AM

    @Kasim.Lahore: You do have a lot of looney bins on the loose . Wish they would work towards making Pakistan a stable and prosperous country instead of chasing windmills around the world.

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  • babar
    Aug 2, 2011 - 10:58AM

    we put all of our eggs in one basket…

    :)

    Our govt and media had been telling us fabulous things about China Pakistan friendship. On contrary Chinese govt has a history of anti muslim policies…….

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  • Long Standing
    Aug 2, 2011 - 11:04AM

    This is all carp.. This is misinformation campaign carried out by CIA and RAW… I checked all chinese website ZooTee News… They do not mention anything like this … The terrorist most likely have been trained in Kashmir .. on the Indian Side….

    No muslim can ever kill another muslim let alone a Han chinese…

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  • Naeem Siddiqui
    Aug 2, 2011 - 11:41AM

    Blaming neighbours is not going to solve Uighurs problem in china. It’s a historical issue and Chinese must resolve this issue internally Uighurs want opportunity and share from Chinese progress and not separation. There are problems in Xinjiang which are causing people to escape and take refuge in neighbouring countries including Pakistan.

    China need Pakistan for its broader strategic objectives vis a vis US and India if Chinese are up to damaging their ties with Pakistan on this issue then it would be them in lose not Pakistan.

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  • Kasim.Lahore
    Aug 2, 2011 - 11:46AM

    @Long Standing: Sorry Brother… This type of denial and escapism is more dangerous than Terrorism.. We should not entertain such activities on our soil to create unrest in China..

    China is our all weather friend.. Should maintain the same for our good future…

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  • clairvoyant
    Aug 2, 2011 - 11:47AM

    I think its a knee jerk reaction to what I see the Seductive overture foreing policy of our foreign office , using the talent of Hina( neice of Mustaffa kharr), to amend relation with india. Our foreign office has learnt a lot from behind the door tactics of Hiliary in France,,,how much that works. And for those simpleton here,,, China has never been a dependable friend, all they want is that you should not have good relations with india,,, and if you will try, China will become your major foe!

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  • Akthar
    Aug 2, 2011 - 12:20PM

    Ramadan Kareem to all.
    @Dr. Salim

    Every True Muslim MUST stand by the ummah, isnt it true. & Pakistan being a Islamic Republic, what must it do? Just watch the slaughter of muslims, especially in this holy month:
    http://www.dawn.com/2011/08/02/china-police-shoot-dead-two-suspects-in-xinjiang-attacks.html
    As a Islamic Republic, it’s a duty of the state to safeguard & protect Islam & condemn the slaughter of muslim brothers everywhere. Aren
    t we supporting the Palestinian & Kashmir cause? Why not Uighur Cause?
    & China, being a friend of Pakistan, we should impress upon china not to oppress Uighurs. This is the least we can do during this holy Month.Recommend

  • LayMan
    Aug 2, 2011 - 12:53PM

    A lot of lies were taught to us when we were young. One of them was our friend ship with this sleeping bear china. See it is roaring now and will pounce on you soon if you step on its tail.

    the big guns that pull the strings in this country are not even friends with its masses, so why would a heartless country like china would.

    Think as this is something we normally keep for others to do.

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  • Zobia
    Aug 2, 2011 - 12:53PM

    This is our own mistake, we shouldn’t meddle in others affairs. Pakistan should close all training camps in the FATA area. After this incidence I was thinking that no one is this world is our friend. Either we have any friend in this world. Pakistan is standing alone and it is the prime duty of Pakistan government to pay attention towards such issues. Why always Pakistani territory is being used for all terrorist activities. We have to mitigate this world view that Pakistan is the spring of all terrorist activities. For this Pakistan should take firm action against those elements that are involve such activities? Terrorists who had been captured through crack down should be punished. Via media and other means of communication a message of tolerant society should be spread. Intellectuals and Moderates should come forward to cop the issue of intolerance. Before worsening such situation we should take step to make our society more liberal, more balance and tolerant.

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  • CNIC
    Aug 2, 2011 - 1:11PM

    Blockquote

    China has blamed terrorists trained in Pakistan for an outbreak of …………

    Blockquote

    O NO!!
    CHINA YOU TOO………………………HAVE YOU JOINED HAND WITH USA?

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  • Waquar
    Aug 2, 2011 - 1:19PM

    All weather friendship turning into ‘All wither’ one?

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  • ik
    Aug 2, 2011 - 1:20PM

    Without doubt PAKISTAN IS THE EPICENTER OF TERRORISM – Very very sad but as Pakistanis we should accept it if we are going to do something about it.

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  • Patrik
    Aug 2, 2011 - 1:26PM

    @Naeem Siddiqui:
    China needs Pakistan more than Pakistan needs china.?
    Which cloud cuckoo land are you living in ?

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  • ik
    Aug 2, 2011 - 1:27PM

    @Asfar:
    Fight a war with China – Try to dream about it – MUSLIMS – Put yourselves & you house in order before you even cast an eye on the enemy – Stop Dreaming & Wake up to see what is your condition in the international community today

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  • let there be peace
    Aug 2, 2011 - 1:37PM

    From another article: All incidents of terrorism are
    deplorable, Pakistan foreign ministry
    spokesperson Tehmina Janjua said in
    Islamabad.
    “Pakistan is confident that the patriotic
    people of the Xinjiang Autonomous
    Region of the People’s Republic of
    China and, in particular, Kashgar as
    well as the Chinese government, will
    succeed in frustrating evil designs of
    the terrorists and separatists, who
    constitute an evil force.”

    so separatist movement in turkistan which is far away from land of Chinese civilization and whose people are ethnically and culturally different than Han Chinese is evil design of separatists and terrorists; while separatists who claim to be Arabs and central Asians in a land which is part of Indian civilization since begining of history are freedom fighters?

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  • Hafiz
    Aug 2, 2011 - 1:43PM

    We should not forget that,, China is not a Muslim country,, every non-Muslims Country has problems with Muslims,, China is suppressing Muslims in the country for long long time,, but we might forgot this because China is supporting Pakistan’s economy but in order to avoid these issues every country should respect Muslim minority and give them proper rights. One thing that I read somewhere related to this issue is that “the police started indiscriminate firing on a peaceful rally.. and then this incident happen””..May Allah protect Muslims all over the world…

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  • dude
    Aug 2, 2011 - 1:50PM

    the news everyone was waiting for…!

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  • mannish
    Aug 2, 2011 - 2:19PM

    Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh Brothers

    Are we muslims or not ? Isn’t it is our duty to fight for the cause of Ummah and help our muslim brothers where ever they are ? China is an atheist country. It does not believe in any religion. While Pakistan is an Islamic republic which believes in world’s only true religion. So it is duty bound to help the and protect the citizens of the Great islamic caliphate. If it fails in its duties all kinds of perils will befall on Pakistan. So beware brothers before commenting.

    World’s only true book Al Quran says “the only Religion in the Sight of Allah is Islam”

    Always remember this.

    So do not talk about any other set of beliefs. All other religions or set of Beliefs have been proven false by none other than the Last Messenger and Prophet of Allah.

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  • Aadersh
    Aug 2, 2011 - 2:35PM

    But Pakistan said it would “continue to extend its full cooperation and support” to China’s government against the ETIM.
    Hence we can say Pakistan is not involved in it & btw we all know who is training these terrorists against Pakistan n now against our friends…Chinese leadership can understand that…
    Long Live Pak-China friendship!!

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  • R S JOHAR
    Aug 2, 2011 - 2:46PM

    @Asfar:
    I agree and give you full marks on your comments that Pakistan must support its Muslim brothers in China. China has an extremly poor human rights record and it is at its worst in Xinjiang and Tibet provinces. Nearly 50% population in Xinjiang province is of Muslim origin who are fighting for freedom for many a decades. In 2009 about 200 Muslims were killed and 1000 wounded but Chinese put down this rebellian with an iron hand and since then many were prosecuted and thousands are rotting in jails without trials.

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  • haris
    Aug 2, 2011 - 3:08PM

    @Akhilesh, india:
    Thank you for your advice. Wow! sounds too sensible, isn’t it?

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  • G. Din
    Aug 2, 2011 - 3:51PM

    @Long Standing:
    “No muslim can ever kill another muslim let alone a Han chinese… “
    So, if you know your English, Han Chinese stands even higher than a Muslim, in your view? Muslims are killing Muslims every day in Pakistan, so the newspapers tell us. That couldn’t be, you say. So, what is actually happening, Long Standing! No, don’t sit down, Long Standing, before you have explained it!

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  • M.Akthar
    Aug 2, 2011 - 4:14PM

    Guys, this is my 3rd comment here & probably most sensible. The report says the terrorist’s received training in pakistan. The report also says they used knives. For training in knives, terrorists wont have to come to pakistan!
    Its a genuine protest by muslims against oppression by china & china found a punching bag to blame pakistan! We read news but stopped thinking!

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  • Aug 2, 2011 - 4:16PM

    I have nothing invested in it to be lost due to the fact I’m not muslim. However, considering all the claims people make about what Islam is and stands for, if you don’t directly confront China about it due to your claimed values, you’re liars who only care about your fellow muslims when it’s convenient. No big deal though. I really doubt anyone believes Pakistan has it in them to do such a thing. But, just because it’s predictable doesn’t make you any less cowardly in every aspect but your self gain. Just don’t keep speaking as if you live a life that is centered around your religion in any aspect. I can’t think of a single religion where the God condones picking and choosing which parts you want to follow and forgetting the rest. Whether or not you confront China about it will actually decide, on a worldwide scale, just how much weight your claims of religious motives hold. If it holds nothing, it means that most of your justifications were bold faced lies and you really are simply void of credibility in just about anything since if you’ll lie about something based on a religion you’re proudly a member of, you’ll lie about just about anything.Recommend

  • Proud Paki
    Aug 2, 2011 - 4:19PM

    This shameless spin was started by an Indian newspaper(Indian Express).Read the actually story on XINUHA China’s official news agency. Nowhere in the story they actually blamed Pakistan directly.

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-08/01/c_131022491.htm

    But Indians never let an opportunity to demonise Pakistan.This should show you how indian establishment and media try to vitiate the friendly atmosphere between China and Pakistan.
    Just look at the quality and language of comments from Indians.

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  • Proud Paki
    Aug 2, 2011 - 4:30PM

    Here is another example of Indian spin machine in overdrive. This story will demonstrate to you how one sentence from same source is being rehashed into multiple stories and with each story the sources are growing.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/Chinese-media-highlights-Pak-angle-seeks-action-on-terror/articleshow/9454797.cms

    Read the story and you will notice that they mentioned “Global Times” as another newspaper carrying the similar story as Times of India. But when you look at it, it is just another edition of TOI rather than any Chinese News agency.

    As for as chinese media is concerned here is list of english news media in china. One look will reveal to you what has been said or what is being spun Indian media. For me it is very strange that why a Pakistani newspaper would carry story without proper background fact checking.

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  • What the !!!
    Aug 2, 2011 - 4:32PM

    Another avenue for Pakistan to make money …now beg money from China to crush these home grown terrorists…a beautiful but a dangerous game Pakistan is playing with the international community

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  • bijoy
    Aug 2, 2011 - 4:43PM

    @Long Standing:
    funny… opne your eyes and seea round you. the only community killing each other is yours…
    alas..

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  • kamal
    Aug 2, 2011 - 4:46PM

    @G.Din ,I am not seeing any reply from @Long Standing it seems he is still standing.

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  • bijoy
    Aug 2, 2011 - 4:46PM

    Chinese confusionism and Buddism will never suuport pakistan. they have indian back ground.

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  • Babloo
    Aug 2, 2011 - 5:17PM

    Are these non-state actors ? Pakistan has more non-state actors than Bollywood.

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  • lolllz
    Aug 2, 2011 - 5:22PM

    @Proud Paki:
    haha, first blamed Indian trained terrorists, and now Indian newspapers.
    then what about this news
    http://tribune.com.pk/story/221828/china-blames-xinjiang-unrest-on-terrorists/
    all this from Indian express or from air???????

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  • Tony Singh
    Aug 2, 2011 - 5:33PM

    The rumblings have already started – from down with US to down with China. Predicted it way back, but did not guess would happen so soon.

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  • Tony Singh
    Aug 2, 2011 - 5:37PM

    Now from Ghazwa-e -Hind to Ghazwa-e- Chin. Chalo bhadiya hai.

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  • Bigboy
    Aug 2, 2011 - 5:43PM

    @Proud paki
    Read the headline of the ET article and also the 2nd line of the 2nd para, in the article you have cited,
    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-08/01/c_131022491.htm

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  • Pragmatist
    Aug 2, 2011 - 5:48PM

    I hope, at least now China realizes who it is dealing with.

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  • Tony Singh
    Aug 2, 2011 - 5:51PM

    @Proud Paki:
    Why TOI, read news on other websites like BBC, NYT, Guardian or DAWN, They have all reported the news in similar manner. But you can still afford to keep your head burried in sand.

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  • J Oberoi
    Aug 2, 2011 - 5:57PM

    There is a reason why snakes don’t have friends.

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  • gk
    Aug 2, 2011 - 6:03PM

    @khan of quetta:

    everyday lot of ughars living in are
    sent to china when chinese ask for
    them the authorities have many times
    deported central asians from madrassas
    in waziristan the problem is that the
    government has little control over
    what goes in wazirristan as the
    waziris are fiersly independent

    single word, without fullstops 0_0

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  • Long Standing
    Aug 2, 2011 - 6:13PM

    @kamal: I have posted my reply

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  • Long Standing
    Aug 2, 2011 - 6:16PM

    @bijoy: My eyes are open so I C… does ‘zootee’ news ring a bell in ur head… as in jhoote.. Do I have to explain a satirical statement.. bad jojo…

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  • Proud Paki
    Aug 2, 2011 - 6:51PM

    To Indians; here is how international media has covered the story.Just look at the headlines and compare it with TOI or Indian Express- how they have written process stories highlighting angles which donot exist. In NYT Guardian AND Post the story is not even a front page news.

    BBC
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14368359

    Gaurdian
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/china

    NYT
    http://www.nytimes.com/pages/world/index.html

    Washingtonpost
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world

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  • H.A. Khan
    Aug 2, 2011 - 7:38PM

    Pakistan needs to seriously address this issue.

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  • mind control
    Aug 2, 2011 - 8:50PM

    @Proud Paki

    This shameless spin was started by an Indian newspaper(Indian Express).

    If that is the case I wonder why ‘higher than mountains friend’ China, and guardians of ideological frontiers a.k.a. ISPR, have not issued a denial as yet.

    you will notice that they mentioned “Global Times” as another newspaper carrying the similar story as Times of India. But when you look at it, it is just another edition of TOI rather than any Chinese News agency.

    Google Global Times and this is what you get. Does it say TOI anywhere?
    http://www.globaltimes.cn/ – Cached
    Global Times, an English-language newspaper under the People’s Daily.

    Time to pull your head out of the sand.

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  • Akthar or afsar or manish
    Aug 2, 2011 - 8:56PM

    Blockquote
    Akthar or afsar leave it are you not going to tution class
    having fun here
    where is manish means where are you
    Blockquote> BlockquoteBlockquote

    Blockquote

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  • RN
    Aug 2, 2011 - 8:58PM

    Pakistan Should not Interfare in China’s Domestic Matters. Thats it!Recommend

  • Chao
    Aug 2, 2011 - 9:01PM

    @ Proud paki:

    Reference to http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-08/01/c_131022491.htm

    Refer to the work PAKISTANI in the xinhua news – it appeared 2 times:

    “The initial probe found that the group’s leaders had learned how to make explosives and firearms in overseas camps of the terrorist group “East Turkistan Islamic Movement” (ETIM) in Pakistan before entering Xinjiang to organize terrorist activities, the government of Kashgar City said in an online statement.”

    “He said the organization is based somewhere along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border.”

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  • kamal
    Aug 2, 2011 - 9:13PM

    @Proud Paki,where you are commenting?is it an Indian site?you need a mental check-up..

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  • pardesi
    Aug 2, 2011 - 9:38PM

    lolz

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  • R S JOHAR
    Aug 2, 2011 - 9:40PM

    @Proud Paki:
    You appear to be a true follower of Zaid Hamid, a great entertainer of Indian net users. Keep up the good work.

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  • Aadersh
    Aug 2, 2011 - 10:20PM

    Proud Paki you r right these Indians r too good in creating fuss about small things….

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  • Vicram Singh
    Aug 2, 2011 - 10:26PM

    If India had control over Gilgit and Baltistan, this would never have happened.

    I can actually see a turn of events where Gilgit Baltistan will be incorporated into Indian Jammu and Kashmir pretty soon.

    With the US economy tanking, and Europe not doing too good either – the inevitable will happen – the tiger and the elephant, i.e India and China will become more inter-dependent.

    After all both India/Bharat and China have been in the neighbourhood for thousands of years and have a history of civilizational interaction.

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  • Arjun
    Aug 2, 2011 - 10:34PM

    In the older days, Proud Paki would have created another conspiracy theory in his country. Thanks to the Internet, we can show people who is creating theories and what is the real truth. This is especially important for Pakistanis, who are a people in love with conspiracies where nothing is ever their fault but just another Yahoodi-Hunoodi (Hindu-Jewish) conspiracy, lol.

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  • mind control
    Aug 2, 2011 - 10:40PM

    @Proud Paki

    Just wondering, do you assiduously follow The Rupee News and The Nation, or is it you natural unalloyed state of being?

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  • rameed
    Aug 2, 2011 - 11:11PM

    People should read Urmina Venugopalan’s eye-opener of an article in Foreign Policy on 21 July, entitled “Sorry, Pakistan: China is No Sugar Daddy.” Pakistan should wake up to the reality that between Pakistan and India, China would choose India anytime for its own strategic ambitions. Pakistan’s utility to China, in particular, and the international community, in general, is extremely limited, i.e., make sure Pakistani soil is not used to launch terrorist attacks in China/Xinjiang. Meanwhile, I recall one Pakistani analyst saying that while “India interests the world, Pakistan worries the world.” Spot the difference?

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  • G. Din
    Aug 2, 2011 - 11:35PM

    If US was “the frying pan’, Pakistan is about to land into fire (China). Pakistan could bluff the only Superpower of the world that it could go with China, if push came to shove. Well, the Superpower did not become one because anyone could fool it. So the push did turn into a shoves and it came quite hard. What does Pakistan do now? China could afford to bail it out, given that it has trillions in its kitty. But, China, unlike the US, is a stingy customer. Can you imagine a Chinese convoy being firebombed on the Karakoram highway? There would be hell to pay!
    The noose is growing tighter, Pakistan! You have no one to fall back on except your Muslim “brother countries”. They are no angels either and you can’t bluff them, especially when you have rubbed them also the wrong way. If they are going to come to your rescue, they are going to demand that you part with secrets of the “atom bum”. There goes the boastful claim of Pakistan, the only Muslim nuclear power. You still have your ace proliferator, the xerox Dr. Qadir Khan, though. Bring him to the rescue. Even he may be reluctant, given how you disgraced him in public. What sort of price is he going to demand and has he got anything to sell now? You are in a heap of trouble, Pakistan. All this because you just would not get the obsession with India out of your head. It is still in your head, Pakistan!

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  • Thinker
    Aug 3, 2011 - 12:51AM

    @China. Welcome to the club.

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  • Deb
    Aug 3, 2011 - 1:47AM

    US gone! China going….? Who is next? North Korea? Sudan (North)? Somalia?

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  • Cautious
    Aug 3, 2011 - 1:49AM

    Is there any country which shares a border with Pakistan who has not been a target of terrorist trained in Pakistan? Didn’t think so.

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  • Paki in Caribbean
    Aug 3, 2011 - 2:23AM

    Pakistan Problem = Feudals + Mullahs + PAK Army = No Justice for common people & Opression. For saying this I become a traitor according to standards and ISI will start hunting me but look at the history From Khaksar threek to Taliban all is shame and the the TRICA to blame who act and think only for thier own interests and wealth.

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  • King Khan
    Aug 3, 2011 - 4:26AM

    Every body know that who will benfit from this china shuld looking in to CIA ROW & MOUSAD
    hopfully tiay will get thair answer soon our chines frends have to think that who will be benifeted
    by creating caos in Xinging.

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  • Trainspotter
    Aug 3, 2011 - 5:35AM

    China is an atheist nation that will not hesitate to commit genocide against its own people. In theory, Pakistan can send Xinjiang freedom fighters to China and use its nuclear arsenal as a shield against any retaliation. That strategy has failed in Indian Kashmir. In practice, Pakistan will not stand up to China even though brother Muslims are being slaughtered. Instead, it will hold out its begging bowl to the Chinese leadership. Pakistan has failed both on secular development and as an Islamic state.

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  • Aug 3, 2011 - 7:51AM

    Wow! If a friend is saying this then clearly it’s out of control.

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  • R S JOHAR
    Aug 3, 2011 - 11:54AM

    The conditions in Xinjiang and Balochistan are quite similar to China and Pakistan respectively. While the former is rich in gas and oil and the latter has minerals and other deposits. Also, people of both provinces are fighting for freedom and being oppressed brutally by their respective countries.

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  • Aug 3, 2011 - 12:09PM

    @Long Standing: ‘No muslim can ever kill another muslim’ there was a 8 yrs war between Iran & Iraq ,30000 killed in the last few yrs in Pakistan by terrorists and you still hold this view pl take your head out of the sand.

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  • Long Standing
    Aug 3, 2011 - 1:57PM

    @jagjit sidhoo: Pra Ji cant u differentiate between something that is written in starical tone or factual tone…

    guys like u are one reason I get put off from commenting… but i stay on…

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  • Tony Singh
    Aug 3, 2011 - 2:06PM

    @Hafiz:
    You say
    every non-muslim country has problems with muslims? Why?Have you pondered on that? Anyone having thoughts on this?

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  • malik
    Aug 3, 2011 - 2:07PM

    @jagjit sidhoo:

    helloo…can’t you folks understand sarcasm ????

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  • Tony Singh
    Aug 3, 2011 - 2:24PM

    @clairvoyant:
    You believe that China is reacting in such a way because HRK visited India? Recommend

  • Aug 3, 2011 - 2:25PM

    This matter is under investigation and one – especially Indian bloggers should not jump to conclusion.
    ” THE news from Xinjiang is not good for Pakistan, as China, our closest ally, has claimed extremists trained here are responsible for two deadly attacks in the restive region. At least 19 people were killed in the recent attacks in Kashgar. Chinese officials claim the suspects received training in camps run by the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, a Uighur militant outfit reportedly linked to Al Qaeda. Uighur opposition groups in the West have contested the Chinese claim. But if there is indeed a link to elements within Pakistan, it would not be surprising. Though it is believed that Etim has been significantly weakened, hard-core militants are still said to shuttle between China and Pakistan as Xinjiang shares a border with this country. In the past leaders of the group have been eliminated inside Pakistan. A US drone strike in North Waziristan reportedly killed Etim chief Abdul Haq in 2010, while the movement’s earlier head Hassan Mahsum was killed by the Pakistan army in 2003.

    The Turkic Muslim Uighur people have genuine grievances against the Chinese state; due to the influx of Han Chinese they feel they are being turned into a minority in their own land and that their culture is under attack. The region saw deadly ethnic violence between the Han and Uighur communities in 2009 in which nearly 200 people were killed. While a nationalist movement exists, Etim espouses secession from China.

    Any community with grievances against the state of which it is a part has the right to demand its rights. The Uighurs are no exception. However, the moment this indigenous movement starts attracting external support — such as from Islamic militants in Pakistan — there is significant cause for concern. This development reflects the fact that over the years Pakistan has allowed its territory to be used as a staging ground for religious extremists of all stripes. The Foreign Office has offered Beijing “full support” against Etim. It will be taken more seriously if action is taken on the ground to ensure that Etim is being denied access to training camps in Gilgit-Baltistan and Fata. courtesy Dawn.

    Regards

    Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
    Johannesburg – South Africa.

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  • Aug 3, 2011 - 4:38PM

    @Long Standing:We have read the” starical tone” now lets have the factual one

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  • Anwar
    Aug 3, 2011 - 6:30PM

    Nobody is our friend or enemy. Quran is our guide. If Muslims in China are oppressed then its our right, as a Muslim, its every Muslims duty to support their Freedom struggle like we support our Kashmiri brothers. When we have successfully overcome pressure from USA, who is China? Mushraff took action against our brothers in Lal masjid and martyred our own muslim brothers under pressure from China. Why should we come under any countries pressure when we are sovereign nation?

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  • omar
    Aug 3, 2011 - 6:42PM

    @pl/sql: chinas foreign minister said no prpblem, pakstan is our friend. please get ur facts right. dnt be jealous of pak india friendship

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  • embrassment army
    Aug 3, 2011 - 7:48PM

    anwar biggest evil is mother

    according to mulla if your mother cooks food she is unislamic

    as women should be worshipped
    its man work to do work

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  • G. Din
    Aug 3, 2011 - 11:49PM

    @omar:
    “dnt be jealous of pak india friendship”
    No one can be jealous of Pak-India friendship because there is no such thing as Pak-India friendship. Thank you but if you can treat “higher-than-the-Himalayas” friend the way you have, no one would want your friendship. Recommend

  • Aug 4, 2011 - 1:53AM

    @Anwar:

    So basically ANYONE who has a beard and says he is muslim can go and create havoc, destruction and YOU would support him?

    This is Islam or ‘Mullahism’ – Mullahism the diesease that is destroying Pakistan and Pakistanis from within? Please grow up and understand what is happening in the world and READ the Quran with understanding not following these bearded goons from caves

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  • Observer
    Aug 4, 2011 - 2:58AM

    @Asfar:
    Where have you been? China has been oppressing its Muslim Uighur minorities for the past six decades. This current incident is nothing new. China has killed tens of thousands of Uighurs over all these years. Just google to an Uighur website to learn the truth.

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  • Observer
    Aug 4, 2011 - 3:06AM

    @Akthar:

    “Negotiations are only way & oppression wont take anyone anywhere like in Indian Occupied Kashmir.”

    While I agree with most of your post, your comparison to Kashmir is not a valid one. Kashmir has since ancient times part of the Hindu/Buddhist ‘nation’. Only in the last three hundreds years or so, Muslims, many of them non-Indic invaders, have controlled Kashmir.

    Xinjiang and Tibet, on the other hand, were never part of ancient China and never shared Chinese culture. China is very clearly forcibly occupying Tibet and Xinjiang.

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  • Observer
    Aug 4, 2011 - 3:34AM

    @Long Standing:

    Why don’t you read what the Uighurs themselves have to say about china’s brutal oppression of its Muslim Uighurs if you don’t believe other reports?

    Read: http://www.uyghurcongress.org/en/

    Or just google “china blames pakistan” “chinese oppression of Uighur muslims” if you want to know the real truth?

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  • Khan
    Aug 4, 2011 - 9:13AM

    Let’s follow the Indian model: because this happened, let’s stop the Chinese cricket team from ever going to Pakistan. That’ll teach them.

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  • Khan
    Aug 4, 2011 - 9:15AM

    @mannish: We are not Muslims. We are human beings and we don’t hate people because of what they believe. If you’re going to cry this Ummah baloney, please don’t hold your breath for any help from the rest of the Muslim world when your country is in crisis. No – nothing will get better when you re-establish a Caliphate. With no music, women, TV, laughter or sports, who would want to live in such a world?

    Religion is a personal matter, don’t drag it into politics and everything else.

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  • R S JOHAR
    Aug 4, 2011 - 12:15PM

    @Observer:
    Thanks for this latest information on Chinese oppression over Uighur Muslims which is a eye-opener and should be read by all Pakistanis.

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  • rehmat
    Aug 6, 2011 - 4:25AM

    @Proud Paki:
    Did you read the urls you yourself provided? In the BBC and NY Times, report, it appeared that Chinese authorities were blaming terrorists trained in China. So when the whole worled is saying that why would you expect Indian newspapers to say something different?

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  • reply
    Sep 9, 2011 - 6:41PM

    the road on you walk, the aircraft you feel proud, the reason you are not abused in world is china friendship

    otherwise brainless or brainwashed people like you will cut his own legs with their hands

    if china beat anybody the reason they create riots. its their national interest. so dont behave foolishly

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