Karachi violence: Rehman Malik claims 'elements' sabotaging peace

Published: July 25, 2011
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Pakistani paramilitary soldiers patrol on the streets of Karachi  PHOTO : AFP/FILE

Pakistani paramilitary soldiers patrol on the streets of Karachi PHOTO : AFP/FILE

Pakistani paramilitary soldiers patrol on the streets of Karachi  PHOTO : AFP/FILE Five more killed. Police detain suspects, arms and ammunition recovered. PHOTO: NNI/ FILE Rangers Brigadier Waseem says the armed groups were using sophisticated weapons. PHOTO: PPI/ FILE The Sindh Home Department has imposed an indefinite ban on pillion riding. PHOTO : AFP
KARACHI: 

Interior Minister Rehman Malik has said that some “elements” are trying to sabotage peace in Karachi under the garb of ethnic violence.

Speaking to the media on Monday, he said intelligence agencies are monitoring sensitive information received from friendly countries on the situation.

Malik told Express 24/7, that the Frontier Constabulary is on standby to begin duty in Karachi.

Search operations as death toll mounts

Police in Karachi conducted door-to-door search operation in areas affected by violence, including Malir, Express 24/7 reported.

Five more people have also been reported to be killed in different areas of Karachi, taking the death toll over the last four days to over 50.

A tortured body was found in Garden area of Karachi.

One person was shot dead by unidentified men in North Nazimabad.

Another person was killed while three were injured during a clash in Landhi area.

A man was killed in target killing incident in Ibrahim Haideri area.

Express 24/7 correspondent, Ahmed Jung reported all markets and businesses in the area were still closed. Residents said they were not confident that police would be able to provide them with security.

Police officials said a number of people had been detained and arms were also recovered from the area.

“We have identified the people and at least 200 police commandos will be dispatched to search and arrest these people,” Naeem Boroka, a senior police official, told Reuters.

Armed clashes between supporters of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) and its breakaway faction the Mohajir Qaumi Movement-Haqiqi (MQM-H) have been taking place in various Malir district localities since June 22.

President chairs meeting on Karachi situation

President Asif Ali Zardari is chairing a high-level meeting at Bilawal House in Karachi to review the situation in the city.

Chief Minister of Sindh Qaim Ali Shah, Interior Minister Rehman Malik, Home Minister Manzoor Wassan and heads of law-enforcement agencies are attending the meeting.

Sindh IG Wajid Durrani and DG Rangers have briefed the president about the security situation in Karachi.

Reports by intelligence agencies on the recent carnage in the city have also been reviewed.

‘Law and order to be maintained at all costs’

Sindh Chief Minister Qaim Ali Shah says law and order will be maintained at all costs.

The Sindh CM chaired a meeting on the situation in the city. Sindh Home Minister Manzoor Wassan, Inspector General (IG) Sindh Wajid Durrani and other police officials attended the meeting.

Shah said that indiscriminate action will be taken against criminals, terrorists, miscreants and anti-state elements.

Updated from print version (below)

Violence in Karachi: At least 22 more killed in turf war

At least 22 people were shot dead in pitched gunbattles that are evolving into a fight for control of Karachi city itself.

But more than the actual killings was the fear that the firing spread, especially in Malir.

The worst affected parts were Malir, Landhi, Jaffer Tayar Society and Daud Goth. At least four rockets were fired in Daud Goth but no loss of life was reported.

Rangers Brigadier Waseem said the armed groups were using sophisticated weapons, including machine guns, assault rifles such as the AK-47 and .222 rifles.

Eleven more people in Karimabad, Sir Syed, Nabi Bux, Ghas Mandi, Liaquatabad, Baldia Town and Mobina Town were killed while over half a dozen others were wounded.

Published in The Express Tribune, July 25th,  2011.

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Reader Comments (62)

  • Basit Siddiqui
    Jul 24, 2011 - 3:39PM

    But we are bunch of stupid as we voted them to come to power. Next Elections an you will see these goons in power again.

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  • Syed Omar Sherazi
    Jul 24, 2011 - 6:18PM

    Now mahajir killing mahajir …………………. where is mahajir rabta council

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  • Frank
    Jul 24, 2011 - 6:21PM

    vikram

    Though God/Allah is the supreme power
    but i think even it has even gone out
    of the capability of Allah to save
    pakistan.Since all the people of
    pakistan are intolerant,peace can only
    be achieved by separating all four
    states of pakistan and merging FATA
    with Afghanistan.

    seems like you’ve posted the Express Tribune’s agenda here by mistake

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  • R S JOHAR
    Jul 24, 2011 - 7:20PM

    Its beyond civilian govt to control situation in Karachi. The city should be handed-over to Army who will surely succeed in bringing back normalcy and man sitting in UK will again back Kayani to take-over the country.

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  • dr. Aslam khan
    Jul 24, 2011 - 8:38PM

    its about time altaf hussain takes control of karachi and declare mohajirs as the true custodian of the city.

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  • Syed A. Mateen
    Jul 24, 2011 - 8:46PM

    It seems that the easiest way for the Government to control target killing is to put a ban on pillion riding with immediate effect and until further orders and that is what the Provincial Government has done today.

    The holy month of Ramadan is around the corner and target killing is going on unabated.

    May Al-Mighty Allah have mercy on us. Ameen.

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  • Hedgefunder
    Jul 24, 2011 - 10:24PM

    Shows how incapable are the people of pakistan !!!!
    They can not even deal with one city ! let alone deal with war on terror !!!
    So much for Pakistan’s brave and intelligent people, to witness this on their own doorstep!!
    Funny how their ghairat Brigade is too quiet these days too !!!
    How come no one has started blaming RAW, MOSSAD, CIA etc
    Perhaps they know the culprits responsible for these slaughter on daily basis !!!!!

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  • Basit Siddiqui
    Jul 24, 2011 - 10:36PM

    @vikram:
    good advice. First do the same with India. Why an Indian would read a Pakistani news paper and get 8 recommendations – the highest.

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  • sumeet
    Jul 24, 2011 - 11:15PM

    now who is the chaudhary of karachi?

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  • Great Jaat
    Jul 24, 2011 - 11:30PM

    At the risk of repeating myself, let me say again “The only thing that can save Pakistan is a defense pact and no-war pact with India. All other solutions are just people following their own agendas. You don’t have much time.”

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  • sumeet
    Jul 25, 2011 - 12:32AM

    my suggestion is build a encounter squad like mumbai comprising of police officers and rangers and shoot all the criminals.otherwise karachi will burn forever.save your financial capital.

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  • Pundit
    Jul 25, 2011 - 4:06AM

    Karachi : RIP

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  • habib
    Jul 25, 2011 - 4:23AM

    @vikram:
    brother i am not trying to start an argument but i would just like to kindly inform you that part of your statement :”but i think even it has even gone out of the capability of Allah to save pakistan” is an utterence of kufr and may even take you out of the fold of islam. I am just doing my duty as a muslim of informing you because you may not have realised. I am a talib ilm and can confirm with my teachers if you wish.

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  • Jul 25, 2011 - 4:29AM

    I hope there is no strike tommorow.

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  • khan
    Jul 25, 2011 - 4:29AM

    whats the point of these solidiers.. what is kayani waiting for.. everywhere democracy has destroyed and crushed the concept of a decent life.. every institution is either already bankrupt or on the verge of it..pso….raliways..pia… 100 ppl die in 3 days .. and a week later 3o ppl die in 2 days.. inflation setting new peaks.. foreign policy non existent.. law and order worse than somalia.. governance doesnt exist.. extremism on the rise.. promised roti kapra maakaan taken awy.. is this what we want.. is this the pakistan dreamt ..Recommend

  • laughing in India
    Jul 25, 2011 - 6:18AM

    And I just read an article on Pakistan “not accepting” Indian “hegemony”.

    You are exactly where we want you to be.

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  • rehmat
    Jul 25, 2011 - 7:54AM

    @Hedgefunder:
    Axtually they have ibdirectly blamed Mossad. Rehman Malik spoke about finding Israeli arms – as though no-one knows about the illegal arms market where any time of weapons can be bought at wil.

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  • Jul 25, 2011 - 8:24AM

    @vikram:
    You being follower of Hindu religion, please do not pass any remarks on our Islam religion and Allah. I have taken strong exception on your irresponsible statement.

    You have no rights to do so. Therefore, please refrain from passing such irrelevant and un-wanted remarks in future and learn to respect religion of others.

    Regards

    Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
    Johannesburt – South Africa

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  • Sajida
    Jul 25, 2011 - 10:05AM

    What the Commissionerate system was no magic wand?
    I suggest Govt restore modern system it replaced with prehistoric Commiserate system and consider using proportional representation in elections.

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  • sam
    Jul 25, 2011 - 10:50AM

    I watch many Pakistani TV shows and sse the Issues discussed.
    My conclusion– Pakistanis can not even hold an intelligent conversation for long before it just becomes a shouting Match.
    I just do not see anything but down hill for Pakistan.

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  • Ray of Hope
    Jul 25, 2011 - 11:26AM

    How they have got more sophisticated weapons than that of LEA’s of Pakistan?? The Government should take actions with the assistance of Pak Army against these terrorists irrespective of their party affiliations.

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  • Salman Orangiwala
    Jul 25, 2011 - 11:43AM

    @ Ray of Hope , What army ? why people like you sitting outside Karachi has to comment on Karachi ?

    The Police and Rangers just stand by and watch on the pretext that they can move only if ordered from “up and above ” , these up and aboves are responsible for the mass murder .

    And if these Outsiders ie Rangers and Police cannot protect Krarachi’s civilians , and have to be withdrawn , they have to pay us back the trillions we spent on them for the last one decade .

    Army is biased , we have seen that in 1992 .If they are smart enough they will eschew the Karachi quagmire this time .

    Karachi feeds Paksitan and its army .What army is gong to do , bite the feeding hand .?

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  • YAMM
    Jul 25, 2011 - 12:46PM

    Yaar, I am sick of these Pakistan hate commenters here ;) . They have nothing to do in life except commenting agaisnt Pakistan…instead of showing condolences…and these peoples claims that they are the PEACE spreaders..LOL

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  • Akthar
    Jul 25, 2011 - 1:21PM

    Theres an Blog in Dawn. Its very well written about the Arms circulating among the General Public. Also, theres an article on the Drugs in the Tribune on the other side. Drugs and Arms are a deadly combination. The country needs serious steps to deweaponize at every noon and corner of the country. N o one, I repeat no one, other than the law enforcement forces must have weapons. Action must be taken against the Mafias and drug peddling groups. There must be crack down (which isnt cosmetic) and take serious action so that the current situation does not repeat in times to come. This crack down must happen without any regard to political affliations.

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  • Lobster
    Jul 25, 2011 - 1:35PM

    @Great Jaat:
    as if India is famous for keeping its words :).

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  • Hedgefunder
    Jul 25, 2011 - 2:01PM

    @rehmat:
    They really need to clean up their act otherwise the only commercial hub of the country is going to go into abyss !!
    What really surprises me is the inaction of the people in Karachi !! How come they have not taken to streets and demanded immediate actions against this Goonda giri???
    Are they really that scared??

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  • Basit Siddiqui
    Jul 25, 2011 - 2:07PM

    has any Pakistani ever read any Indian national newspaper ?anyone here ? Anyone who has ever put any comments ? These are sockpuppets paid to do what they doing here ?

    And for Indians, I have many friends from India. They are not like you they are much better. One more reason to believe you are who you are sock puppets esp @Vikram

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  • Aamir
    Jul 25, 2011 - 2:33PM

    Pakistan is on the verge of next partition…Recommend

  • sunny
    Jul 25, 2011 - 3:14PM

    @Salman Orangiwala
    well said brother. i fully endosrse your comments.

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  • Red Alert
    Jul 25, 2011 - 3:23PM

    Fear the time when Pakistanis have to seek visa to enter Karachi.

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  • Asad
    Jul 25, 2011 - 3:35PM

    @Hedgefunder
    When a Man with a gun in his hand points it at you (and you are unarmed) then will you confront him? or go to the streets to protest against him? No- You will feel scared and beg for your life and promise to stay out of his way.

    Its easy to point fingers at the people of Karachi from within your hedgefund’s office (probably overseas)…

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  • waqar ahmed
    Jul 25, 2011 - 3:49PM

    HAHAHAHA
    Door to Door Operation what a bunch super fools of we have in media and government as behind the door they will find the terrorist.
    please capture those who are playing the game of Hit and Run.
    By door to door we mean poor people living in the area who are already scared and wonded

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  • waqar ahmed
    Jul 25, 2011 - 3:51PM

    HAHAHAHA
    Door to Door Operation what a bunch of super fools we have in media and government as behind the door they will find the terrorist.
    please capture those who are playing the game of Hit and Run.
    By door to door we mean poor people living in the area who are already scared and wounded

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  • Ali Kazmi
    Jul 25, 2011 - 4:15PM

    @ vikram
    Asaam and telgu, what about merging them with srilanka? these troibled lands have thier undergraduate armed forces too:)

    comments pls?

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  • Hedgefunder
    Jul 25, 2011 - 5:07PM

    @Ali Kazmi:
    Your really need a lesson in your geography !!!
    Assam is over couple of thousand km from Sri lanka !!!
    Secondly Telugu, have nothing in common with majority population in the country which is Sinhalese and those that they have anything in common with, namely Tamils !!
    We all know what haapened to their cause!!!!
    So merging them is not really an option just as you could not really merge with East Pakistan !!!!
    So if you have anymore bright Ideas then do share it with us, as this was not very smart one !!!!

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  • Hassan
    Jul 25, 2011 - 5:09PM

    @ orangiwala, how exactly does Karachi feed Pakistan and the army?

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  • Indian
    Jul 25, 2011 - 6:58PM

    @Ali Kazmi:
    I am sure you meant TamilNadu to be merged with Sri lanka, we have sent an application to the OIC (Organisation of Islamic Nations) and the deal would be ratified by South Sudan. Then it will be publically announced by the Sultan of Saudi Arabia (your benefactor)

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  • Jehangir
    Jul 25, 2011 - 7:10PM

    I fully accept waqar ahmed views! All they got to do is knock at the doors of religous & political party offices & nab whoever they find. Want long term peace? Nab the militant mullahs.

    There will be peace!

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  • Hedgefunder
    Jul 25, 2011 - 7:25PM

    @Asad:
    Yes you are right , i suppose , but surely out of pure fustration, people must consider creating vigilante groups to deal with these people who are direct threat to the ordinary law bidding people’s lives !!!
    Its a shame that even your law enforcements agencies are so ridiculously inactive or for that matter the Army has not stepped in to take control of the city and arrest these killings !!!!
    What is of concern is that, how long will the people continue to await for soem form of intervention to stop these atrocities, as its obvious that your Politician are simply not capable of doing very much, apart from talking and making absurd statements !
    I also dread to think as to the economic impact of these on the only serious Commercial Hub in the country !!
    Its tragic to see this city in such a mess ! I have fond memories of my vacations there during 70’s when it a cosmopolitan secular city, with lively lifestyle!!!!Recommend

  • rahind
    Jul 25, 2011 - 7:47PM

    “xtually they have ibdirectly blamed Mossad. Rehman Malik spoke about finding Israeli arms – as though no-one knows about the illegal arms market where any time of weapons can be bought at wil.”

    or STOLEN…hey, corruption does thse things…wake up!

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  • Sajida
    Jul 25, 2011 - 8:13PM

    Karachi feeds Sindh for sure. After all,those landlords do not pay any taxes. Their government is all paid for by Karachi!

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  • Sajida
    Jul 25, 2011 - 8:20PM

    @Basit Siddiqui
    I for one have read Indian papers. I continue to do so. India shares many of the Pakistan has.
    Both countries are also held back by their British era roots. It is a tragedy for South Asia as other countries are leaving them behind. Indians your growth story is not being considered here as it affects so little of the country. What is preventing it from not doing that is the ties of its British era roots.
    I also have Indian fiends.
    I should also mention what Pakistani should emulate of India is the civic groups they have. More Indians should join them to pressure the governments (state and federal).

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  • Asad
    Jul 25, 2011 - 8:33PM

    Why do Indians stray way from indian websites and comment on pakistani websites?
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  • Great Jaat
    Jul 25, 2011 - 9:08PM

    @Sajida: Abolish feudalism and enforce land reforms.

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  • Patrick
    Jul 25, 2011 - 9:36PM

    The ‘Elements’ are Criminal Elements and Sectarian Elements. Just let the police and rangers do their jobs without political interference. These partisan politicians are allowing this monster to get out of control !

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  • Cynical
    Jul 25, 2011 - 10:08PM

    @Asad

    May be, just may be, they want know us,know our country.
    That’s not bad to start with.

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  • Dr. Salim
    Jul 25, 2011 - 10:29PM

    What has our hatred towards India got us. All generations preached lies and hatred so much that the word “pakistanisation” has been coined with a derogatory sense. Read article http://tribune.com.pk/story/216830/oslo-attacker-feared-pakistanisation-of-europe/. Our intolerance is so much against the preaching of his almighty Allah. Are we practicing anything what we preach ? We are suppose to be most peaceful and forgiving religion. Where did we go wrong. Even though it pricked me hard being a muslim but I do kind of feel the same as what Mr. Vikram stated above that Allah has abandoned us. Look around us, does Pakistan looks like a country Allah cares about ? Khuda Hafiz!

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  • Jul 25, 2011 - 10:54PM

    @Dr. Salim:
    The point I emphasized that a non-muslim has no right to indulge and should not interfere in others religion more specifically Muslim religion. We dont need their commentary or pointation in our beloved religion Islam. How can a Mushriq and Kaafir can advise us. For us Allah and Quran is sufficient for our guidance. They must their own business.

    Now coming to your point. Being a Muslim we believe and faith in Islam. Enemies of Islam in the Past and at present were opposing and shall remain in opposition. In the days of our Prophet [SAW] Kuffar e Macca and other Mushriq were heavily against Muslims and were exercising cruelity on them and our Prophet [SAW]. Despite those very hard time, Islam religion was not only protected but also spread like fire.

    For your information, Islam is the most favourite religion in the World and is fast spreading. This situation is not liked by non-Muslim and therefore they are always against it to defame it. We dont care.

    The trouble in Karachi is temporary and spread by the enemies of Islam probably by India and Israel. We need to be united to tackle them with care as non-Muslim cannot be your friend as described our Prophet [SAW].

    Regards

    Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
    Johannesburg – South Africa

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  • Desi
    Jul 25, 2011 - 11:45PM

    “Why do Indians stray way from indian websites and comment on pakistani websites?”
    The heat you are feeling is because of global warming (i.e. globe warming to Indians or say beginning of ice age b/w US and Pakistan relations) … LOL.

    Anyways, you should see the number of Pakistanis commenting on Indian websites. Worst, many of them use Indian names while the content of their posts cry out loud otherwise.

    Moreover, one Pakistan is equal to 10 “kafirs” so why do you have to worry? You guys can easily win any battle! So what if you have not been able to move LOC by an inch for past 60+ years …Recommend

  • Dr. Salim
    Jul 25, 2011 - 11:51PM

    @Dr. Saleem Siddiqi: Bhai jaan, we can always choose to distance the religion aspect from the opinion. Irrespective of whom it comes from and feel humiliated about how he / she dare to speak at us , we can choose to just look at the message and not the between the lines mal-intent of the message. Are we the follower of Allah seriously emotionally so weak that we get readily emotionally hyper on comments from non muslim ? Shouldn’t we first think as human and then as muslim. If we r good human we r far better muslim. If we just try to be good muslim and not better human then we can never be good muslim. This was my point when I suggested that I agree with Vikram’s comment. Not necessarily I agree with whatever hidden hatred Vikram “might” have for Muslims. He may be opportunist for which I dont care. Regards and Khuda Hafiz!

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  • Dr. Salim
    Jul 26, 2011 - 12:11AM

    @Dr. Saleem Siddiqi: On your point on Islam history. First on foremost, it is our constant paranoia that there are “enemies” of “Islam”. I would rather look at is there are enemies of “mindset” of people who follow “Islam”. But in the same way aren’t we enemy to the mindset of the people following other religion ? Do not we despise to the core the practices by Hindus on their idol worship and many orthodox ways ? Dont we feel their practices disgusting and don’t we take every opportunity to prescribe that they be heavily punished. We dont have Indians but we hate Hindus in Indians . Dont we ? If India was full of Muslims then we might have another reason to hate them. We hate Jews and we certainly hate Christians and we like to believe that westerners are having crusade agenda against Islam. We get too easily disturb and provoked by the thought that these acts by Kafurs are against Islam. Have we just looked at it as differences of mindset then maybe our understanding and response to them be far different. I cannot change others but can change myself if the change is for good. Just couple of months ago I was standing with my friend outside a local masjid and a shop infront of me was playing Hafiz Saeed’s speech. So much of hatred, so much of venom. We spend so much of energy in hating Indians. Even if half of the energy was spend on our beloved country I am sure we would have handled Kashmir and many other issues with India with more ease, and just causes. We lost our cause the day we started supporting violence. By doing this we removed the difference between us and the Indians. We started acting like them. And in the process made our own country unstable. What our Prophet (PBUH) did was justified on those times. It was a very different era. Mindset and approaches to resolve dispute were different. Even back then our beloved Prophet (PBUH) suggested and justify jihad only on the Kafurs who do atrocities on Muslims. This act was justified on grounds of protecting our people. This act was to punish only the perpetrators and not the whole community to which the perpetrators belong. When we go beyond punishing the culprits and start punishing the whole community then we are triggering violence between community.
    On your comment on Islam is fast spreading, yes but we know for certain quite many of this conversion is by coherence and not willful. There are many cases but I dont want to speak on them as that is not my agenda.
    On Karachi trouble, please my brother, how many times we have shouted that Indians are behind our problems and how many times have we backtracked on those statement and proven wrong ? How come we never in 60 yrs caught them red handed in their act ? Dont listen to Malik, we all know what he said about the Naval airbase attack and what it turned out to be. Certainly Indian government and spy agency may be having their own insidious agenda, but we are helpless until we prove it. Dont you think so my brother ?
    Regards and Khuda Hafiz!

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  • najib moha
    Jul 26, 2011 - 1:40AM

    @Dr. Salim:
    Thank God there are still people like you in Pakistan

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  • Hamza Khan
    Jul 26, 2011 - 1:40AM

    @Hassan:
    Bhai jaan, it generates a major proportion pf Pakistan’s GDP. It is the single city which provides taxes and dimes- that is how it feeds Pakistan and its army. When it closes for a day or two, Pakistan has to face losses in billions. It is THE sole engine of Pakistan. Remove Karachi from the equation, Pakistan including the rest of provinces can’t stand on its own. That is why Karachi feeds Pakistan and it has been doing so since the latter’s inception. The working-class of Karachi are the providers and real contributors of this country.You have to come to terms with these facts and rest aside your prejudices which are very evident.

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  • Faction
    Jul 26, 2011 - 2:47AM

    @Dr. Salim: you are wasting your breath on that brainwashed South African fascist. He’s steeped in wahabi nonsense so he can’t relate to “humanism” because he divides the world into “muslim” and “kafir” and the latter aren’t deserving of either friendship or “human” rights.

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  • A Reader
    Jul 26, 2011 - 8:53AM

    @Dr. Salim: Very good post! What you have just stated – if only ‘leaders’ of this country said that. With such a viewpoint and such maturity of delivery, half the battle of an argument is instantly won. If only a few more people like you existed in Pakistan. All the present problems would be solved. The country would be an oasis of peace and would shine as an example to other countries.

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  • Vikram
    Jul 26, 2011 - 10:02AM

    @Dr. Salim: Dear Dr.salim,I do not have any hatred for Pakis or muslims.You are our estranged brothers and we Indians feel very sad about the state you are in.Also I did not mention only Allah.I mentioned God?allah.Allah is not only for Muslims ,it is for Hindus and other religions also.Allsh in your language means God.We call it Bhagwan .I am the person who has visited Haaji ali, Ajmer Sharif & Dargah of Hazrat Nizamuddin numerous times probably more than an Indian Muslim.When America carries out Drone attacks in which civilians are killed,we also feel sad and pained..Some prosperity of ours does deend on your safety so the concern…You guys in Pakistan differentiate in terms of Hindus,muslims,Ahmadi,baloch.In India all are Indians…Love to all pakistanis..

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  • Hedgefunder
    Jul 26, 2011 - 6:09PM

    @Dr. Saleem Siddiqi:
    Why don’t you accept and understand than until last 20 odd years no one in the west actually was even concerned about Islam or its followers!!!
    In fact they have always allowed everyone to practice their religious beliefs without hinderance or prejudice, which is lot more than can be said about all the Islamic states throughout the world!!!
    But at same time, when the Muslims demand that they have parallel legal systems in those countries, namely Sharia Law, its bit too much for most anglo saxon and other christian nations too, considering the fact that the Muslims don’t even allow other faiths to practice their religions in their countries!!!
    Can you see where the animosity arises from???
    Its really not that difficult to understand this, if one looks at it with open mind!!!!

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  • Jul 26, 2011 - 8:21PM

    @Vikram:
    Your post has been removed by the moderator otherwise I would have showed you that you exactly quoted and wrote as “ALLAH”. However, it is never too late and if you are whole heartedly determine to accept your mistake it is fine with us. But be careful before saying or writing something especially against any religion as everybody has full right in this regards and we must respect each other.

    @Hedgefunder:
    Again you being a non-Muslim, your remarks are regretted and are not welcomed at all. We Muslims have our own way of life and Quran leads us and our way of life. We do not have any division between us. Some Maulvis have self created it which is wrong. Only one Muslim sect which only believe in Quran and teachings of our last Prophet [SAW] will be contesting for Jannat based on his / her worship and good deeds. Rest shall go in Jahannam which also include non-Muslims and Kaafirs.

    If you read Quran you will clearly understand why our Laws are different than non-muslims. It is mandatory for all Muslims and we should strictly follow and spend our lives accordingly.

    However, good and bad people are everywhere as five fingers are not equal. These few Bad people who are trouble makers are found in each religion and society who keep creating problems for others. Inshallah when we have an able Leader [not Ruler] in Pakistan, we will eradicate or minimize this menace too. We have full faith and trust in Allah.

    Best Regards

    Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
    Johannesburg – South Africa.

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  • Hedgefunder
    Jul 26, 2011 - 9:50PM

    @Dr. Saleem Siddiqi:
    Than why are you in SA, and not Saudi Arabia, where there must be plenty of employment opportunity for medical professionals, no doubt???
    Also why do Muslims choose to reside in countries in the Western Hemisphere which are virtually all non muslim nations?
    Every religion has its own laws and way of life, but one also has to adjust to other’s ways if one wants to reside in their country!!!
    This is not an exclusive domain of Islam or Muslims to be allowed to do as they please, even if it against the Law of Host Country!!!

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  • hmmmm
    Jul 26, 2011 - 11:15PM

    i think vikram is studying for Ghulam Nabi Fai,Recommend

  • Jul 26, 2011 - 11:43PM

    @Hedgefunder:
    Allah has made this world for all human being and there is no restriction if any Muslim can live in any particular country and cannot live in any other country provide he or she complies immigration regulations of that particular country.

    Based on this, I have full liberty to live and work to any country of my choice. For your information, I have worked for 6 years in Saudi Arabia, 10 years in Qatar and now in South Africa. I am widely travelled to USA and European countries.

    You will surprised to know that Muslim community over here in South Africa is more organized here [better than Pakistan] in this Country. There are lot of Mosques and Islamic Madressas where people receive Islamic education. Even students from different countries come here to seek Islamic education.

    Therefore it is my choice to work and earn where I like due to my profession.

    Regards

    Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
    Johannesburg – South Africa

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  • Hedgefunder
    Jul 27, 2011 - 12:45AM

    @Dr. Saleem Siddiqi:
    You still did not answer my question!!!
    What right does a Muslim have to demand Sharia Law in Foreign Country, its a host country with its own laws, customs and traditions ??
    So who are they to demand anything that deem, as not suitable to their requirements???

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