Escorting MV Suez: Row deepens as India lodges counter-protest

Published: June 19, 2011
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Pakistani warship, PNS Babar is escorting MV-Suez to port Salalah in Oman. PHOTO: FILE/APP

Pakistani warship, PNS Babar is escorting MV-Suez to port Salalah in Oman. PHOTO: FILE/APP

NEW DELHI/ISLAMABAD: 

In a classic tit-for-tat move that has come to define their volatile relationship, New Delhi on Saturday lodged a protest with Islamabad over Pakistan naval ship (PNS) Babur violating relevant regulations on navigational safety by its “risky” manoeuvres, and jeopardising the safety of Indian naval ship (INS) Godavari and its crew, the Times of India reported on Saturday.

On Friday, the Pakistan Foreign Office had lodged an identical complaint with the Indian government over the “dangerous manoeuvre” of INS Godavari as it escorted Egyptian merchant vessel (MV) Suez, recently released by Somali pirates, to Port Salalah in Oman.

Both PNS Babur and INS Godavari are providing cover for MV Suez that has 22 released hostages on board, including six Indians, 11 Egyptians, four Pakistanis and one Sri Lankan, freed after 10 months in captivity.

The protests come a day after Pakistan and India announced that their top diplomats would meet in Islamabad next week to discuss the Kashmir dispute, along with issues pertaining to peace and security between the two nations, for the first time in three years.

After Pakistan lodged its complaint, Indian external affairs ministry released a statement on Saturday saying the Naval advisor of the Pakistan high commission had been summoned by the ministry of defence and “our serious concern on this incident was conveyed.”

Alternative accounts

According to the Pakistani foreign office, PNS Babur, part of the international combined task force on anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden, had been escorting MV Suez when the Indian warship moved dangerously close to PNS Babur and brushed against it almost 100 nautical miles east of Port Salalah.

An Indian navy official refuted Pakistani allegations that an Indian vessel had put at risk MV Suez. “Reports of aggression by INS Godavari are incorrect and based on misinformation,” he said.

As per Indian media reports, INS Godavari had joined up with MV Suez on June 16 to escort the ship which is carrying six Indians among 22 sailors.

Taking credit

The Indian navy has already been under immense domestic pressure for not sending help in time to sailors and being beaten by Pakistan in measures to get the hostages released and escorted back to safety.

The release materialised after hectic efforts by the Ansar Burney Trust, which arranged a $2.1 million ransom to rescue the hostages last Monday.

India, which was due to contribute $500,000 as part of its share of the ransom fee, never turned up with its promised amount, almost putting the lives of 22 sailors in jeopardy.

After the sailors and their ship were released by pirates on Tuesday,MV Suez once again came under attack from Somali pirates. However, by this time PNS Babur had reached the ship and thwarted the attack.

Impact on talks

The event has snowballed into a diplomatic row as both countries lodged tit-for-tat protests with each other for impeding humanitarian missions.

However, it is not yet clear if the latest incident could impact crucial foreign secretary-level talks on June 23-24.

The two-day parleys will also discuss confidence building measures (CBMs) and promotion of friendly exchanges, the statement said.

Talks on the Kashmir dispute, which has been the main source of friction between the two countries for the past 60 years, will be the first since the November 2008 Mumbai attacks.

Suez runs out of fuel

Meanwhile, Burney announced on Saturday that although technical faults in MV Suez had been fixed, the ship has run out of fuel.

Speaking to Express 24/7, Burney said that if fuel is not supplied toMV Suez in the next 24 hours, all of its crew will have to be rescued.

Pakistan Navy sources add that the Panama based company which owns Suez has ordered another ship The Hasic to assist the stranded vessel.

The Hasic is expected to tow Suez early Sunday morning.

Published in The Express Tribune, June 19th, 2011.


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Reader Comments (96)

  • ashwin
    Jun 18, 2011 - 11:16PM

    Stupid Indians, so childish cant they allow the Pakistani Navy the satisfaction of protecting a Oil Tanker from pirates, after all the pirates are brotherly Somalia Muslims. Recommend

  • nadeem shah
    Jun 18, 2011 - 11:21PM

    Indians are a farce, they lied to Ansar Burney and never gave him a dime, then due to efforts by Pakistani officials and Ansar Burney and Military chiefs Kiyani and Pasha, the hostages including Indians were released, and India feeling left out and stupid decided it could at the last minute grab Pakistans glory by jumping into the party.

    If Pakistani naval ship was already escorting the freed ship then how could it cause dangerous manouveres? It is obvious the Indian ship which arrived late must have got too close to the Pakistani ship which was already there, so why did the Indian ship insist on coming so close? Instead of using decency and asking the Pakistani ship if they were ok or did they need any help, they instead tried to barge in and take over the situation.

    Indian cheap actions belie its size. This is exactly what I would expect from Indians, immature, stupid, hostile actions.Recommend

  • Jun 18, 2011 - 11:25PM

    WTH – Hellooo!! this is what Pakistan did, is india mimicking! we know what india likes doing. Couldn’t pay the ransom or contribute in it, all they could do was atleast hamper the escort. SHAMERecommend

  • Asad
    Jun 18, 2011 - 11:35PM

    Indians are sensible except when it comes to deal with PakistanRecommend

  • Usman Ahmad
    Jun 18, 2011 - 11:39PM

    han? Who was being risky?Recommend

  • Adnan
    Jun 18, 2011 - 11:44PM

    What was ‘INS Godavari’ doing there in the first place? Trying to steal the limelight after being upstaged by the Pakistan Navy’s humanitarian mission? What a bunch of losers! You would think they (the Indians) would show some gratitude considering we rescued 6 of their own people but, as usual with India, petty politics reigns! My only regret is that PNS Babar ‘brushed’ the Indian vessel- it should have rammed it side-on. That would have set the right tone for the Islamabad talks on Kashmir! Ha ha ha ha! Recommend

  • Moderate
    Jun 18, 2011 - 11:45PM

    I hope Indians in tribune comment section will surprise us by accepting the Indian navy shenanigans.Recommend

  • abdul
    Jun 18, 2011 - 11:58PM

    such a sick ppl!! were fail to secure their citizen. N nw doin’ ridiculous acts.. go navy go u make us proud! Recommend

  • AK
    Jun 19, 2011 - 12:00AM

    Wow. Indians never get tired, do they?
    Talk about being ungrateful Recommend

  • Ahmad
    Jun 19, 2011 - 12:07AM

    India is now trying to prove that Pakistan is wrong
    on the other hand INDIA failed to rescue its indian sailors and even failed to do any efforts

    a BIG shame to INDIARecommend

  • Dr. Ali Ahmed
    Jun 19, 2011 - 12:09AM

    first they made sure that the pirates execute these hostages, once released, they r tryin to make sure, they die before reaching india.Recommend

  • Dev Ram Gopal
    Jun 19, 2011 - 12:11AM

    first they made sure that the pirates execute these hostages, once released, they are trying to make sure, they die before reaching india.

    Thankyou Pakistan. today you are my hero :)Recommend

  • sajid
    Jun 19, 2011 - 12:18AM

    for god’s sake grow up ,and i mean both the countries,always fighting like 2 little schoolboys.Recommend

  • Babloo
    Jun 19, 2011 - 12:26AM

    Looks like, prior to secratary level talks, someone is orchestrating a rise in anti-India rhetoric. Wwe had the comments about Kashmir and now this incident. I wonder who is orchestrating it.Recommend

  • Ali
    Jun 19, 2011 - 12:29AM

    When will India stop crying??Recommend

  • dev
    Jun 19, 2011 - 1:02AM

    The “domestic pressure” in India makes no sense and is a manifestation of the stupidity of Indian media. There were no indian ships in the area and the only navy ship deployed in the arabian sea is the INS godavari which was busy escorting other ships. There are thousands of indian sailors in ships traversing these waters and it is illogical to expect IN to go for everyone’s rescue. IN will then need 1000’s of ships!Recommend

  • Jun 19, 2011 - 1:07AM

    Pak & India should learn from UK & Germany if they want to make q prosperous future.Setting an example of 2 Idiots for last 60 years.Recommend

  • Ashutosh
    Jun 19, 2011 - 1:16AM

    This is Pakistani version of the story.
    India is against giving any ransom to the pirates. It is the west which had been more forth coming with paying such ransom and had made it very profitable for the Somalis. The allegations that India did not pat its part of ransom is baseless.
    .
    Pakistani navy is a small unit and probably not fully aware of the codes that the battleships needs to follow and lead to a situation like this.
    .
    Better coordination is required between several navies to bring down the pirates in the Arabian sea and Pakistan has limited options as it has just one sea …Recommend

  • Mirza
    Jun 19, 2011 - 1:21AM

    Pakistan Navy cananot protect its bases, how can it protect its ships? This is an opportune time for the Pakistani forces to get involved against India to divert the attention of common Pakistanis. How about some communal riots in Pakistan or likes? Recommend

  • gonewithedrones
    Jun 19, 2011 - 1:23AM

    use of drone in these situations would have been very helpfulRecommend

  • faraz
    Jun 19, 2011 - 1:34AM

    I wish India and Pakistan had really faught some major war before becoming nuclear states, atleast they would have stopped behaving like immature states. Recommend

  • Asad
    Jun 19, 2011 - 1:39AM

    I am sure these frigates have on board camera so some one would have some sort of proof what was going on there. Lets see if it was it was PNS Babr’s dangerous maneuvers or is it the Indians trying to divert attention from the embarrassment it is facing after refusing to do anything to rescue its citizens and to make it worse they were rescued by Pakistanis.Recommend

  • khan
    Jun 19, 2011 - 2:14AM

    I hope the comments here on tribune are moderated? Mr. Ashwin who I think is an Indian has been spewing hatred against pakistanis Muslims and military in all his comments. I hope the moderators here on tribune have access to ip addresses and can look up on google the ips geography. Recommend

  • G. Din
    Jun 19, 2011 - 2:36AM

    @faraz:
    “I wish India and Pakistan had really faught some major war …”
    We did defeat you in everyone you started. We even truncated you and cut you down to half. Does any “major war ” do more than that? Recommend

  • Ali Wazir
    Jun 19, 2011 - 2:39AM

    Injuns: “No you scratched my ship first” Stamps feet, holds breathRecommend

  • Indian USA
    Jun 19, 2011 - 5:20AM

    @Dr. Ali Ahmed:
    Good one!!Recommend

  • Jun 19, 2011 - 6:30AM

    that’s what that India can do. ‘Pehle Chori Phir Seena Zori’Recommend

  • Raza
    Jun 19, 2011 - 6:33AM

    @Ashutosh:
    Perhaps you need to speak with the families of the indian sailors to find out who took the initiative to save human lives irrespective of their passports. Iam amazed at the audacity with which you mustered your comment…wowRecommend

  • Vinayak
    Jun 19, 2011 - 7:07AM

    Both countries should investigate this, with all honesty -and- the navy personnel guilty of provocation should be appropriately punished.

    A nations armed forces have to be disciplined. We do not want India and Pakistan going into war for the stupid action of a few people.Recommend

  • Amjad
    Jun 19, 2011 - 7:22AM

    Why couldn’t both ships joined together and powdered the somali pirates dens. Indians need to mature up and start thinking logically. Subcontinent divided almost 64 years ago. Get over with it and try to work together for our own people on both sides.Recommend

  • Mohsin Sangha
    Jun 19, 2011 - 8:04AM

    We Pakistanis arranged the money for release, we Pakistanis talked with the pirates,we Pakistanis get the hostages releases, we Pakistanis protected the ship !!

    India did nothing except for promises (as they always deal Pakistan, lies! )

    Then what the hell was that ins gardavri trying to do where as the protection was already there??? just to save face and make numbers or trying to discredit Pakistan by accusing us maliciously?

    Indian janta must take stand and put emphasis on their govt to be sensible and stop this blame game and enmity with Pakistan. It is good for both and for world at large !!!!Recommend

  • Atlantique
    Jun 19, 2011 - 8:46AM

    HaHAaaha! It wud hav been embarrassing had India behaved in such a stupid manner with some other country. But i simply love it when india behaves like this with Pakistan. Pakistan does not deserve sensible behaviourRecommend

  • Ashutosh Jain
    Jun 19, 2011 - 9:56AM

    First of all the facts: 1) The ship’s captain is a pakistani who refused help from Indian navy inspite of repeated request to connect to him.
    2) Its then that Pakistani navy came into picture. However, under its obligation Indian navy was still required to escort them out of dangerous waters before they were called back by the command.

    This incident happened in between this time. No body can know the truth for sure so before making the baseless allegations just remember that pakistani navy is no angel.
    Pakistani’s love for rhetorics and loose talk amazes all Indians.Recommend

  • Ashutosh Jain
    Jun 19, 2011 - 10:08AM

    “The Indian navy has already been under immense domestic pressure for not sending help in time to sailors and being beaten by Pakistan in measures to get the hostages released and escorted back to safety.”

    ROFL!!! says who? This piece is hardly news here in India. First know the facts! this ship is captained by a pakistani who didn’t respond to Indian navy calls to help him.
    We are Ok as long as sailors get released but guess what Pakistani media and public wants to play the game of one-upmanship every time they get chance.

    @ashwin, nadeem shah, Uzair Javaid, asad, adnan …. first know the facts then indulge in rhetorics. World knows you people love rhetorics and conspiracy theories so it comes as no surprise.
    And take credit for what? rescuing a ship? Child, such things maybe rare for pakistani navy because of its minuscule size but Indian navy does it every day for scores of ships. There is nothing to be taken credit of, its a routine job. Recommend

  • Bitter Pill
    Jun 19, 2011 - 10:10AM

    Why can’t both ships escort the vessel – MV Suez to port in Oman/// One on either side… both Navies happy…Recommend

  • Chandra
    Jun 19, 2011 - 11:35AM

    Even as a patriotic Indian I find it difficult to accept the Indian Govt’s version of the story

    a. They slept through through the entire day before responding to the Pakistani charge. It would not have been the case if the Pakistanis had started it. (Look the alacrity with which the Govt comes out with a statement when shelling happens at the border)

    b. Indian families were seen on TV channels praising the Pakistanis for saving their families

    The overall handling of the situation broadly reflects the thoroughly incompetent performance of MMS and his merry band of jokers. The country will be saved the day these clowns leave the Govt….3 more years…3 more years…:(Recommend

  • Ambarish Kumar
    Jun 19, 2011 - 11:42AM

    @Bitter Pill:
    Right you are! INS Godavari and PNS Babur cannot escort a ship, get this …
    ready? A ship, MV Suez, which has BOTH Pakistanis and Indians as crews,
    without an absolutely unnecessary fracas …
    .
    No wonder that INS ‘India’ and PNS ‘Pakistan’, with South Asians as crews (citizens),
    cannot row full speed ahead out of the ocean of frothing and storming troubles.
    .
    And we each like to think that we are mature nations?
    Well, go and tell it to the wind! Recommend

  • nadeem shah
    Jun 19, 2011 - 1:00PM

    @G. Din:
    You did us a favor, without realizing it, Pakistan and bangladesh were never one nation, did not share language, culture, anything except religion. secondly you did not secure anything, it was Pakistani leaders who decided Bengalis were not worth dying for, nor was that God foresaken land which is flooded each year, therefore removing a burden around our neck so thank you, but try as you might, you cannot take one inch from Pakistan today, and inshallah it is us who will retunr the favor, and break India up into small small nations that live peacefully side by side threatening no great nation like Pakistan.

    This is just the half time, the movie will end when Pakistan cuts India into small pieces and brings true independance to the people of India.Recommend

  • nadeem shah
    Jun 19, 2011 - 1:01PM

    Whenever Indians lose and argument, they bring up 1971, why not bring up the past 1000 years of Muslim Hindu warfare and lets see what the real score is.Recommend

  • nadeem shah
    Jun 19, 2011 - 1:05PM

    @Ashutosh Jain:
    we dont need to hear it from you, ARY station in Pakistan did a good job interviewing Mahesh Bhatt, and several family members of rescued Indian sailors and they were singing literally singing prayers for Pakistan and heaping scorn and bad language on a family channel against their sirkar and ministers, you Mr Jain need to watch that show on youtube and get a dose of reality.Recommend

  • CPKS
    Jun 19, 2011 - 1:51PM

    I find it amusing when Pakistani netizens accuse India of trying to “snatch” away the credit for rescuing a single ship..

    Please guys these things may be new to PN, but this (saving ships from pirates) has been a matter of daily routine for the Indian Navy for the past 3 or 4 years.

    Even at this time the INS Godavari was escorting another two ships simultaneously across the Gulf of Aden when it came here.Recommend

  • Sarmad
    Jun 19, 2011 - 2:21PM

    A brilliant effort by PNS Babur. Now Pakistani SSG Commandos are on board MV Suez.
    Shame on indian navy, they are only good for sinking small boats and then portraying that it was a pirate ship. Recommend

  • Adnan Khan
    Jun 19, 2011 - 2:37PM

    It would seem that Shakti Kapoor (or someone matching the flair and moral disposition of his Bollywood roles), manages the foreign office for GoI. Recommend

  • faraz
    Jun 19, 2011 - 2:48PM

    @G. Din

    Actually a day before Dhaka surrender, the state television aired news that everything is in control and Indian army will be crushed. By major war i mean a war of annihalaiton, like the ones faught by European powers in which each and every individual gets affected by war.Recommend

  • Malay
    Jun 19, 2011 - 2:58PM

    very sad.Recommend

  • faiman
    Jun 19, 2011 - 3:08PM

    The captain refused for INS GODAVARI’S HELP becoz they were a little too late! with pns bahadur medics and ssg already onboard! As for INS GODAVARI protecting other ships, this one was UNDER ATTACK BY THE PIRATES, ASSAULTED AND THEIR CALL FOR HELP IGNORED BY INS GODAVARI! So why would the captain respond to them second time when his urgent call for help was ignored the very first time in dire cirucumstances!

    and plz listen to what the families of indian sailors are saying!THANKING ANSAR BURNEY AND PAKISTAN NAVY!Recommend

  • Shahid Saeed
    Jun 19, 2011 - 5:55PM

    Both poor and starved nations find a moment of pride bullying each other while Generals from both make $$$$$ in kickbacks and people get high on whose ship was better. No one cares that both are too poor to have a war and generals use that sentiment to glue them so they can make big bucks. Recommend

  • Atlantique
    Jun 19, 2011 - 6:08PM

    @Nadeem Shah:
    Pakistan itself is broken. It hasnt managed to integrate KP with its territory. How wil it break india? Pakistan can break India only in dreams. India did it in reality.Recommend

  • ABC
    Jun 19, 2011 - 6:14PM

    Look at this one very good job done by Pakistani forces, how all Pakistani`s are feeling proud of it. Please Pakistanis continue with such activities and earn a good name in the world. Thanks.Recommend

  • Ali
    Jun 19, 2011 - 7:03PM

    @Ashutosh Jain:
    Indian media have a special section dedicated to pakistani news.pakistan media dont care about internal affairs of india. Indian media NDTV,Newsxlinve etc are covering still story all day and following frantically so dont lie. and no stop going into conspiracy theories about the captain.you didnt pay the randsome, you didnt come to aid of ship under pirate attack and now your trying to bully the pakistan warship into letting you take the credit Recommend

  • Ali
    Jun 19, 2011 - 7:05PM

    @Ashutosh Jain:
    what are you doing on a pakistani site then ? we know you love us. the only thing indian navy has accomplished in gulf of aden is blowing up a civilian ship from thailand in 2009Recommend

  • James
    Jun 19, 2011 - 7:11PM

    I feel this incident is the fault of the Pakistan navy.Indian navy follow the orders of the civilian Govt to the letter.Pakistan navy may be trying to distract attention from the Mehran base attack,by provoking this incident.What has happened is a farce and does not reflect well on both countries..Burney and the people who donated the ransom money are the true heroes.Recommend

  • Aadersh
    Jun 19, 2011 - 7:15PM

    Let the Indians cry…In the end truth remains same that Pakistan escorted MV-Suez & did a humanitarian job but here I m not surprised from Indian attitude afterall that’s what V can expect from them to hamper any humanitarian work carried out anywhere…a BIG SHAME on India…
    Carry on the Good work Pakistan Navy…V r Proud of You…Recommend

  • Jayant M
    Jun 19, 2011 - 8:14PM

    If the Indian Govt didnt pay up. you can simply transfer half million USD from the 25 MUSD that the Govt of India gave Pakistan because of floods last year. The aid apparently was routed from a third country so ordinary Pakistanis wouldnt know it came from India. Chew on that. Recommend

  • Ashutosh Jain
    Jun 19, 2011 - 10:28PM

    @Ali…ROFL!!! tell to anybody that pak media doesn’t focuses on India and he will die laughing on floor.
    What am I doing on pak website? same thing that you people do on Indian website, right?
    Did you ever visit a third party news website that has credibility for unbiased reporting? First gain knowledge then talk the troweler that you are talking about was already in hands on pirates, any good news website such as washington post, nytimes, bbc will tell you this. Its another matter that pakistanis believe only what their media says, which is 90% lies most of the times.
    As I said we don’t need to take credit for this incident. you want it? ok take it. For your small navy it might be their greatest achievement but for us its a routine job!!!
    I dunno why you pakistanis get so worked up such small matters? The zeal that you have been showing through your words if you had shown it through your works pakistan would not have been the begging bowl of the world.
    Sad that you people never understand this simple fact!!!Recommend

  • Aamer
    Jun 19, 2011 - 11:24PM

    @Indians,

    Im sure saving white-looking men from pirates is a daily routine for Indian Navy, but saving your own people didnt come up in the schedule for the past several months. Heck, you didnt even pay for their ransom, and come up with an age old rhetoric, ”we dont negotiate with terrorists/pirates”, fact however is that it was India that offered to pay part of the ransom.

    And to those who say that the Pakistani captain didn’t respond to Indian Navy, well first of all prove your claim, and secondly, with a Frig. already escorting him, ofcourse he was not interested in entertaining credit seeking sailors. Recommend

  • let there be peace
    Jun 19, 2011 - 11:32PM

    Thank you Mr Burney and others. Great work.
    About childish war of words between two navies-no comments

    What company owns the ship? Arent they supposed to pay ransom in such situations?

    @Jayant M:
    That comment was very cheap. Shame on you.Recommend

  • Ashutosh Jain
    Jun 20, 2011 - 2:36AM

    @let there be peace…So the war of words between two navies is childish. Jayant’s comments are cheap ( I dunno how??? Its a fact! ). And you are the grand daddy of all, right?

    @Aamir, dude first of all the read what is said and then comment. Its clearly written by me that pakistani navy came into picture after Indian navy’s response to help went unheeded.
    Now, why do only we have to prove our claims? How about you doing the same? How about proving it that the pakistani captain of the ship didn’t receive any response from the Indian navy?
    Why this hype and hoopla? You people saved them? Great job! well done! Now do you want to be compensated for it? Is thats the reason why so much shout?
    At least for once your nation is saving people and not killing them.Recommend

  • maestro
    Jun 20, 2011 - 3:02AM

    @Ashutosh Jain:
    Indian navy went into action AFTER PNS Babur rescued MV Suez, repelled two more attacks from somali pirates, and now has chopper lifted all onto PNS Babur and PNS Zulfiqar and are succesfully on their way to Oman from where each individual of each nationality will be returned to their countries. Your Govadari came into scene after the Indian victims families ridiculed the Indian govt and forces for inaction for 10 months while Pakistan sent two warships, with chopper support and SSG commandos to take them out safely AFTER Pakistani Ansar Burney secured their release. You indians have NO LEG to stand on, on this incident. Grow up! I bet no indian navy ship would rescue pakistanis like PNS Babur did. You would let them sink. Thats the sad reality – and we know your propaganda against us. The truth is in front of the world via your own media like NDTV!! lol…..Killing? Why dont you stop killing maoists, kashmiris, muslims, sikhs? Pathetic. Your holier than though fake credibility is sinking as fast as MV Suez!Recommend

  • Ashutosh Jain
    Jun 20, 2011 - 5:07AM

    @maestro…read this: http://www.indianexpress.com/news/nervous-govt-pulled-godavari-off-routine-mission-to-help-mv-suez/806019/0

    And stop your foolish rant about killings. World knows the truth and it doesn’t matter if you know that or not.Recommend

  • Ashutosh Jain
    Jun 20, 2011 - 5:13AM

    @(fake) maestro…How about stopping killing of journalists, ahmadis, balochs and rest of the world? How about not meddling into afghanistan, India, Nepal? How about not supporting LeT, HuJI, Taliban, Al Qaeda etc?
    AND how about keeping your mouth shut since its clear you know nothing and only show your illiteracy thru your comments.
    You are a terrorist nation whether you believe it or not hardly matters.Recommend

  • arvind
    Jun 20, 2011 - 9:14AM

    Size matters…Pakistan is equal to Tamil Nadu in terms of Electriccity Generation. Stay within your boots or …….another Bangladesh is waiting to happen in Balochistan.Recommend

  • Ashutosh
    Jun 20, 2011 - 9:49AM

    @Raza and other Pakistanis,
    .
    Perhaps it was the first rescue effort by Pak Navy. India had played a leading role not only in escorting merchant ships and involved in preventive attack against the pirates. This has been done to help merchant ships of all nationalities including that of China and Pakistan.
    .
    In this particular case, the Pak Navy kept Indian Navy under dark about its involvement and the merchant ship had a Pakistani Captain, (therefore) did not respond to the signals send from INS Godavari. This lead to the feeling that the MV Suez had been recaptured by the pirates.
    .
    The Pakistan Naval Ship violated the regulations on navigational safety as per the ‘International Regulations for Prevention of Collisions at Sea’ and Article 10 of the ‘Agreement between India-Pakistan on Advance Notice on Military Exercises, Manoeuvres and Troops Movements 1991’.
    .
    Regarding Pakistani and the western country’s rush to pay ransom to the pirates, it is this payment that had made pirates such a lucrative business.
    .
    India has huge stake in the safety of merchant ships across the globe as not only India is an emerging economic super power but also provide the maximum number of navigational and technical staff to the world merchant shipping industry. Every ship that is hijacked has few Indian staff, irrespective of its nationality of the vessel.
    .
    BESIDES INDIA HAD GIVEN VEDIO AND PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF EXPOSING THE PAK NAVAL NEFARIOUS DESIGNS. It had not been made public yet because of the upcoming secretory level talks between the two countries.Recommend

  • IWriteURead
    Jun 20, 2011 - 10:26AM

    @Arvind—size doesnt matter dude! An ant can kill an elephant…get your facts right.
    I am a proud Pakistani and proud of our Armed forces— Navy has fearlessly subdued all attacks be it on their bases or in sea.
    Being attacked is part of the game–combating it and kissing victory is the reason for pride!

    I am also happy that despite the contention INDIANS were also saved by our soldiers–considering the fact that they are also humans.
    For those comment against Pakistan– at least be thankful for our friendly gesture, we know you guys would not like to do more than that.

    Actually the negativity is being reflected by those who think liberation of Bangladesh is Pakistan’s loss because they believe that liberationo of Pakistan was India’s loss.Recommend

  • malik
    Jun 20, 2011 - 11:04AM

    This incident has two versions; one a pakistani version and one Indian version.

    In the international community, the defence forces of one country has zero, zilch credibility and the other country has 100 per cent credibility.

    Now you decide which version to believe !!!Recommend

  • IWriteURead
    Jun 20, 2011 - 11:32AM

    @Ashutosh —it is good to defend one’s country — that’s called patriotism.
    But that does mean to offend other by defaming theirs.
    No matter what you say— on this trips Pakistanis have saved Indians too and the fact is not being denied by neither Indian nor Pakistani media.
    Enjoy the FACT that Indians are saved and let those venomous emotions go down the drain!
    The point I am politely trying to put across is that when you have been favored then it is not ethical to criticize the favour doer! :)Recommend

  • IWriteURead
    Jun 20, 2011 - 11:37AM

    LOL @Malik.

    The one that you are referring as zero credibility is working closely in CTF and NATO and your 100% credibility’s good work we have just viewed in the article.
    Sir, it seems either the international community has gone crazy that they are still working with zero credibility OR your statement is wrong.

    JUDGE FOR YOURSELF!Recommend

  • ashok sai
    Jun 20, 2011 - 11:43AM

    @ All Pakistanis who were chest thumping

    China ‘appreciates’ Indian navy’s help in rescuing its sailors, Wed May 11 2011

    Link :-
    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/china-appreciates-indian-navys-help-in-re/788993/

    Its a routine exercise for Navy’s across the globe, no need to bring politics about it.Recommend

  • Naveed
    Jun 20, 2011 - 11:50AM

    @IWriteURead……Well said!Recommend

  • IWriteURead
    Jun 20, 2011 - 12:08PM

    I like the way Indians are putting up articles to showcase that they have similar achievements as Pakistanis….

    Yaar, who is saying you people are not capable? You guys are very capable but learn to appreciate—Look even China also appreciated India’s Navy for their help. Learn from them only!Recommend

  • malik
    Jun 20, 2011 - 1:12PM

    @IWriteURead:
    I appreciate your sense of humor !! Working closely with NATO…???? That’s a massive joke.If you believe that, you will believe anything!

    Just a few days back, CIA chief was here with satellite images to show how Pak army is tipping off militants And you still believe that the army is working closely with NATO.

    Pak’s defence consists of lies, damned lies and more lies. The whole world knows that. Only some indoctrinated, brainwashed souls refuse to see that. Be denying the truth in the face of overwhelming evidence, they are pushing themselves into a corner, only to be isolated and alienated by the world for ever.

    Having sense of humor is ok dude, but pls wake up and smell the coffee !!Recommend

  • Udaya Bose
    Jun 20, 2011 - 2:20PM

    @sajid:
    i couldn’t agree more with youRecommend

  • Ashutosh
    Jun 20, 2011 - 2:25PM

    @IWriteURead:
    You started of rude yourself but then tried to end polite so that the arguments is not stretched.
    .
    India saves life of people of various nationalities in the north-west Arabian Sea routinely and never seek any appreciation.
    .
    The problem was the Pakistani Caption of MV Suez who proved more of a Pakistani and had jeopardize the safety of the crew by not responding to the signals from INS Godavari. He surely has made a blunder and had screwed his career.
    .
    Please remember that INS Godawari has photographic and video evidences and if this comes to public domain, it will another day of shame for Pakistan.
    .Recommend

  • Waqas
    Jun 20, 2011 - 2:48PM

    @ Ashutosh

    Stop blabbering, what you are calling as FACTS, how do you know? Give us some concrete proofs. the REAL FACT is you are as much ignorant (if not more) than all of us. So until you were ON any of the ships when this happened and are telling us your own account, i will say YOU ARE LYING, you are covering up for the inhuamne attitude of your country men and your incompetent navy.

    And as for your claim that India doesn’t negotiate with terrorists and doesn’t give in to their demands. Do you remember when afghans hijacked an Indian Airlines plane, took it to Kabul and you had to release Pakistani militants in exchange??? Or maybe you were still having milk from a baby feeder :-) LOL

    EAT YOUR WORDS, LYING INDIAN!! Recommend

  • Indian
    Jun 20, 2011 - 4:15PM

    @Waqas… Ironic that while you want to stop ashutosh from “so called” blabbering, you end up doing just that!!!
    You just kept on making accusations without supporting it with facts. But then thats a normal pakistani habit, isn’t it?
    Your use of capital words shows you are shouting. The point is if you don’t believe his words why will anybody believe yours? Holier than thou huh?
    Everybody knows who tells lie to whom, if you want to know how your country is regarded in the world just read international newspapers or just try getting visa for any european country.

    @IWriteURead…india would never like to be compared with pakistan period. we are way ahead.Recommend

  • Paki
    Jun 20, 2011 - 4:57PM

    @ashwin:
    Learn to be thankful………….Recommend

  • Paki
    Jun 20, 2011 - 5:00PM

    @Dev Ram Gopal:
    Non-sense!!! Have you really read/heard the story from your own media?Recommend

  • Aadersh
    Jun 20, 2011 - 5:04PM

    My Dear Pakistanis stop arguing with Indians n few of payed agents too as it’s of no use they will never except truth they have kept denying every truth from 1947 till date….let them cry yar…do they think they can change the truth?? C’mon world knows Pakistan rescued the ill-fated sailors & India obviously as per their habit tried to hamper the humanitarian work….& if they don’t trust Pakistani media they should go & check some Indian news about the issue & more importantly check the views of victims’ families….Indians will always deny their aggression as they denied in 1971,65,99 or whateva… …Afridi was right their heart can never b as big as our’s :) :)
    Be a Proud Pakistani!!Recommend

  • IWriteURead
    Jun 20, 2011 - 5:30PM

    Jealous of Pakistan…Envying Pakistan…continue baby continue :P

    We will inshaAllah see much better days….this is hopefully just the beginning of a change towards betterment :)Recommend

  • IWriteURead
    Jun 20, 2011 - 6:21PM

    @Indian…thats what I am trying to say….You guys are way better than us so please dont compare yourself with us but you guys are not listening and Ashutosh and Ashwin just cant take it that for the first time may be Pakistan had beaten india…its a game guys be thankful and cool it off!Recommend

  • Jayant M
    Jun 20, 2011 - 7:04PM

    Aadersh:

    Well i am glad the Pakistani players werent allowed in IPL :-), a sore heartburn for most Pakistani players and Pakistanis. In 1971 Indian aggression stopped further genocide of ‘half hindu’ muslims as the racist West Pakistani army called Bangladeshis. A heart as big as Pakistan’s but in the wrong place has gotten your country into the worst trouble of its existence! with daily bomb blasts.

    As for Indians hampering humanitarian work, lol Indian doctors routinley operate upon sick Pakistani patients, the Indian govt fast tracks visas for such patients. Poor Wasim Akram had more faith in Indian doctors than Pakistani ones when he shifted his then sick wife to Chennai for treatment. Recommend

  • IWriteURead
    Jun 20, 2011 - 7:41PM

    Thank you ET…love you guys! After a long time a pro Paki and pro Paki institution article made me so hopeful of future and brought a smile to my face :)
    Aaj tu maaza hi agaya….and I also enjoyed how our IT giant is sooo angry on Pakistan’s achievement :) …which is a rarity but in our dark times of today I guess it means a lot to Pakistanis because it refurbishes our trust in our institutions.
    Positive mindset and outlook will make us shine soon….Media will be playing the strongest role in getting Pakistan there :)Recommend

  • Reeba
    Jun 21, 2011 - 2:14AM

    By giving ransom to Somali pirates you might have rescued a few sailors but put many more in danger as pirates will continue this behavior if they get ransom. So there is nothing to gloat about for both Indians or Pakistanis. First destroy the pirates and save the sailors. Then you have the right to gloat!,Recommend

  • delh_se
    Jun 21, 2011 - 4:32AM
  • SK
    Jun 21, 2011 - 9:17AM

    @Uzair Javaid:
    Thankless Beggars. It was not long ago that India contributed $25 million to your flood reliefRecommend

  • KJ
    Jun 21, 2011 - 9:42AM

    Shame to All Indians…………………..Recommend

  • sam
    Jun 22, 2011 - 2:33PM

    @Dev Ram Gopal:
    we didnt have to try anything India pretty much sealed those peoples fate when it refused to do anythgi to help them and when help came to them they acted counter productive.. TYPICAL INDIAN i swear to God you guys are so childish your ego is soo sensitive… GROW UP!!!Recommend

  • sam
    Jun 22, 2011 - 3:31PM

    @ashok sai:
    errrr gets ur facts staright china would bomb india back to the stone ages for pakistan any dayRecommend

  • ashok sai
    Jun 23, 2011 - 8:30AM

    @sam:

    You are too funny….Recommend

  • Waqar
    Jun 23, 2011 - 9:53AM

    Indian media perform a bad rool in the metter of mv suiz…and some indians said that this is rotine jab… indians shame on you…. Pakistani nation perform a great rol in this metter they collect the money for indians but indian people and govt cosider animy to pakistanIndian media perform a bad rool in the metter of mv suiz…and some indians said that this is rotine jab… indians shame on you…. Pakistani nation perform a great rol in this metter they collect the money for indians but indian people and govt cosider animy to pakistanRecommend

  • sam
    Jun 23, 2011 - 9:53AM

    @arvind:
    the mughals ruled u guys for centuries… bangaldesh was a one off incident.. what are you on about?Recommend

  • sam
    Jun 23, 2011 - 9:55AM

    @SK:
    so ur trying to say 25 million donated for a humanitarian crisis means u buy a free ticket to jeopardise a rescue mission……..lets not forget the prisoners also included indians…. seriously where is the logic in what all your saying

    @ ALL INDIANS
    stop your whining its soo unattractive Recommend

  • Waqar
    Jun 23, 2011 - 10:03AM

    O Atlantique in india great variety of nations hindu sikh muslims parsi and other relegion but the terorist hindus for example bal thakrey is aginst all the nation except hindu indian govt fear with these hindus on this reason india break into 100 pices one dayRecommend

  • James
    Jun 28, 2011 - 2:09PM

    @sam:
    Check out the June 24th issue of Daily Times.There is a very good article on Pak-China friendship by Azizullah Khan.Read it before making such stupid comments.Recommend

  • Nilesh
    Jul 2, 2011 - 3:12PM

    great Job Of Pakistan & Ansar Burney , insted of appriciating India is playing games like 9/11 Ever 1 knows Mumbai 9/11 was Indias SHIV SINHAS JOB. shame on India
    As a Indian i feel ashame to be Indian . thu Recommend

  • shanti
    Jul 2, 2011 - 3:15PM

    Great Job pakistan . shame on Indians officials Recommend

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