An open letter to General Pasha

Published: June 7, 2011
The writer was a Ford Scholar at the Programme in Arms Control, Disarmament and International Security at UIUC (1997) and a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution’s Foreign Policy Studies Programme

The writer was a Ford Scholar at the Programme in Arms Control, Disarmament and International Security at UIUC (1997) and a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution’s Foreign Policy Studies Programme

Dear General Pasha,

I write this letter to you in the wake of the gruesome and gratuitous murder of Syed Saleem Shahzad, friend to many, including myself.

The Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Directorate, the agency you head, is being accused of Saleem’s murder. You must also know that the ISI is widely reviled and dreaded at home. For an agency that was set up primarily for strategic intelligence, this is quite an achievement. It is accused of driving in its own lane, monitoring the media, kidnapping, torturing and sometimes killing dissenters, political and otherwise, determining, arbitrarily, what Pakistan’s national interest is and how best we should go about pursuing it.

You must also know that some former officers have not only admitted to electoral fraud, rigging, making and breaking of political alliances, buying people through a mix of carrots and sticks, and browbeating the media, but consider having done so as part of their remit and in the best national interest. Perish the thought that any one of them would say peccavi, since some actually boast about it.

Whispers there always have been. But now much is being said aloud. The ISI is not accountable to anyone; it is all-powerful; it can kill mercilessly and, in this case, it has killed Saleem, so go these whispers. What would you say to this? Shrug and move on, as if it makes no difference, that this is about a few flies buzzing around, a minor nuisance at worst? The man, who now lies buried after being tortured to death, leaves behind three children and a wife. To me this does not look like anything minor.

And what has the agency you head done so far? Nothing, beyond getting an unnamed official to say that while the “unfortunate and tragic death of Syed Saleem Shahzad is a source of concern for the entire nation”, “the incident should not be used to target and malign the country’s security agencies”. Well, sir, to me this is totally unacceptable. What makes the security agencies exempt from criticism or accountability, especially if they are considered enemies by the very people they are supposed to protect?

I believe in giving everyone a fair hearing but the ISI has to do much more than get an unnamed official to issue a feeble condolence and follow it up with a veiled threat to the media to deserve such a hearing. And as far as maligning the agency is concerned or knowing what national interest is, this being no time for mincing words, let me assure you that I understand the theoretical and practical dimensions of statecraft better and more deeply than your entire agency. And I am not the only one.

Now, for a moment, let’s assume that the ISI has not killed Saleem. Let’s also assume that much of what is being said about the ISI is the product of a heat-oppressed civilian brain, not a reality. Perhaps you would still like to know why people think such things of the ISI. So, here goes.

Nation-states are not biological entities; they are, to use the cliché, ‘imagined communities’. This, as the starting point, should give you some idea about how easily the concept of the state and its interest can be problematised. Democratic states garner the loyalties of their people through a sense of sharing and participation, through constitutionalism. In comparison, totalitarian and oppressive states use fear to keep the flock together. History shows that the latter break up at some point. No amount of oppression can keep the people chained; it is only a matter of time. Instead, oppression begets violence and deep turmoil. The problem with oppression is thus that it attracts what it sets out to avoid. Therein lies both the irony and the paradox.

Allied with this point is the idea of civilian supremacy, the fact that while the state becomes overarching, those representing it at any point of time have to operate on the basis of accepted and acceptable rules of the game. They are all accountable through two levels of agency. The first and primary level of agency is granted by the people through elections to their representatives; the second, a much more restrictive level of agency, is accorded by the peoples’ representatives to bureaucratic institutions, including the military and its intelligence agencies.

You, sir, are therefore a servant twice over, as are all your officers and other personnel. You are answerable to our representatives and those representatives are answerable to us.

Obviously, theory does not match fact in Pakistan and it is this anomaly which has brought the country to the brink of disaster. I have said this before and I will say it again: The military-ISI combine has no business defining Pakistan’s interest. That is our job and we, the civilians, will do it through our representatives. Your job is to implement, not formulate, policies.

Since it is your job to identify threats, you must understand the deep fault lines developing in this state. Today’s disarray is the product of flawed policies and even more flawed attempts at nation-building. Strategic vision, like charity, begins at home. If the people of this country feel proud to be Pakistanis, you will have that strength at your back. If they don’t, that makes you very weak too. And you can’t beat people into submission; nor kill them and expect all will be hunky-dory.

It is all about the fundamentals. Unless you get the fundamentals right, no amount of cloak-and-dagger stuff will reduce the threats the country faces. In fact, given what the people think about the agency you head, one of the biggest evolving threats appears to emanate from an organisation whose very reason for existence is to identify and evaluate threats to this state. Could there be a deeper irony than this?

I met you the first time in November 2007 when you were director-general military operations. I know you to be a straight-talking soldier. I would expect that you would do everything to prove that Saleem was not murdered by the ISI. Conversely, if the spoor is traced back to your agency, that you would ensure that whoever is responsible for it, no matter how highly placed, would face the law as a common murderer. That is the only honourable thing to do and nothing less would do, or be acceptable. That is also the only way you can save this country.

Published in The Express Tribune, June 8th, 2011.

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Reader Comments (243)

  • Jun 7, 2011 - 11:53PM

    These people should reread the constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and their own oath as officers, and then tell all of us how we are the ones who dont know whats in the “nations interest”. Recommend

  • Shan
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:07AM

    we need more people to speak as boldly as you haveRecommend

  • Javed
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:08AM

    Not only very well written but very courageously written as well. Recommend

  • Saad Duraiz
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:13AM

    Brilliantly worded Ejaz Sahib! Just hope Gen. Pasha reads this!Recommend

  • Nosheen
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:22AM

    Right on. Your best piece ever, thank you. Recommend

  • billo
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:32AM

    “I understand the theoretical and practical dimensions of statecraft better and more deeply than your entire agency.” And where did you gain this practical knowledge of statecraft Ejaz? Prostrating the role of the journalist-scholar in the service of power and statecraft is a frightening prospect we need to move away from. Not that I necessarily disagree with what you are saying, but lets dial the ego back a notch. Also, your abiding and unshakable faith in the army and ISI to “save this country” is somewhat bizarre. We need to get over the mindset that the country belongs to the military to save. Let the military simply stand out of the way of the people. Democracy may be a slow-paced saviour, but it is the only one. Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 12:33AM


    every word resonates here.

    have not much hope of how pasha would fathom your words


    my prayers are for the safety and well being of you and others in your fraternity who are at last speaking out eloquently and clearlyRecommend

  • bhupinder
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:42AM

    Hats off to Ejaz Haider for this hard hitting and blunt letter. I wish him well and pray that he is not targetted by the same people who did Saleem Shahzad in.Recommend

  • Shock Horror
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:44AM

    I admire you, on this occasion, for your hard hitting and to the point article. No more dancing around, as in your last article, in Express Tribune. I hope Shuja Pasha takes notice of you and acts. Otherwise, three years down the line, he will be appearing on talk shows, to make claims about what he did as ISI chief, like Hamid Gul, and Asad Durrani.Recommend

  • Kashif Iqbal
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:56AM

    This falls like a drone attack on General Pasha. Hats off to Mr. Ejaz.Recommend

  • SaudiRules
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:00AM


  • Jun 8, 2011 - 1:02AM

    @Ejaz Bhai, very eloquently put, the voice of almost all sane Pakistanis. Sir hats off to you. This is the truth and as we know to discredit it all lame excuses such as patriotism and conspiracies are used as a facade. Long live Ejas Haider, you the man.Recommend

  • Aryabhat
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:19AM

    Wow! What an article Ejazssab! Kudos and more Kudos to your bravery, clarity of thought and for speaking an honest truth! Kudos to ET for publishing this!

    Yes, whether ISI is involved, or not, this world’s best in HUMINT agency must find who did Mr Shahzad’s gory murder. That would be an act of redeeming itself a little bit.

    Strategic policy formulation is a civilian business world over. About time it happens so in Pakistan too. However, I believe things would go worse before it gets better on that front.

    I must say last week when I read your article on death of Mr Saleem Shahzad, I had criticised you for avoiding pointing finger at ISI or even mentioning “Deep state” and its actors may have something to do with it. I thought you had malign intention, selfishness perhaps – why fight a lossing battle mindset.

    I am happy that someone in their right mind had not published my comments – as I would have been publicaly ashamed it. Anway, I must own it and an honourable thing is to say Sorry to you publically! I tender unreserved apology to you Ejazsaab!Recommend

  • Bilal Burki
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:30AM

    Thank you for having courage and for calling a spade a spade! Recommend

  • zwandun
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:45AM

    I agree with everything you said. Loved it. may the likes of you mulitiplyRecommend

  • sandy
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:47AM

    well spoken, a million times over, well spoken!!Recommend

  • Khobar From United Kingdom
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:52AM

    Very brave man and very bold letter to chief spymaster. The whole world is pointing fingers at the ISI as there are irrevocable signatures left by the murderer belonging to this reviled organisation.

    I feel utterly proud of Ejaz Haider who, without mincing his words, has taken on pharaonic generals who consider themselves unaccountable. There should be a judicial commission headed by the CJP and if it finds someone else responsible for this gruesome murder then ISI sta ds exonerated and will garner lot of trust from the citizens. Recommend

  • abrar
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:56AM

    cc: to KiyaniRecommend

  • realist
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:58AM

    bravo ejaz bravo!Recommend

  • Mirza
    Jun 8, 2011 - 2:06AM

    Dear Ejaz, I salute you and your craziness. You are 100% right. However, I don’t want you to be dead right! I hope against hope that your article can raise the dead solider in ISI. On my part I have no hope for any positive change in near future. You are expecting the right thing from people who have been committing multiple acts of treason and throwing judges and their families in detention for protecting constitution. They have nothing but disdain againt their slaves bloody civilians. I would be happy if I were wrong. Recommend

  • Faheem
    Jun 8, 2011 - 2:11AM

    Loud applause for the writer!! Recommend

  • Rehan
    Jun 8, 2011 - 2:14AM

    I don’t think I’ve ever had as much respect for anyone as I have for Mr. Ejaz Haider right now. Articles like these are just what this nation needs right now. I salute your bravery, and your commitment to your people’s better future. Great article!Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 2:26AM

    This piece, Mr. Haider, while written with good intentions, is confused collection of unrelated points. It is obviously an attempt by you to show your ‘independent credentials’ after the previous column where you – rightly – questioned the one-sided accusations against ISI without evidence. National interests of any State are defined and imposed by the strategic environment, and not by spy agencies. For you to suggest that ISI would define those interests is ridiculous. Prime Minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto expanded religious madrassas and sponsored Afghan tribals against the pro-Soviet govt in Kabul in early 1970s. Didn’t he as a visionary politicial define this national Pakistani interest based on circumstances on the ground? Or was it ISI then that dictated the definition of national interest? For you to confuse the issue of Saleem Shahzad’s murder with the separate issue of definition of national interest is ridiculous to say the least. For someone who has been writing with reason and logic, it is unfortunate to see you here riding the anti-Pakistani military wave, which has its roots outside Pakistan. Address the truth, not the gallery, Mr. Ejaz.Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 2:38AM

    Is it not strange that CIA, RAW and other worldly intelligence agencies are above the law even in India extra judicial detentions, tortures and killings are not uncommon and why Pakistan’s ISI in being hit particularly. Interesting, in America there is a issue raised by some investigative journalists that President Obama was planted a president of America by CIA as there is ample evidence that Obama’s family had close ties with CIA in 1960s. Is it not a strange thing that Ilyas Kashmiri was also killed in a deadly drone attack after a few days of Saleem Shahzad who had close links with Kashmiri as Shahzad was the only person who interviewed Kashmiri and his last story also confirmed there still close links. There is something fishy in this whole episode and Ijaz Haider’s open letter appeared at last at the result of the criticism of Mak Lodhi and others. Recommend

  • Pakistan Khan
    Jun 8, 2011 - 2:54AM

    God save you from the wrath of our intelligence agencies who have turned into a mafia.Recommend

  • Ajay
    Jun 8, 2011 - 2:55AM

    This is the best homage to the slain journalist !

    Perhaps Ejaz is the 1st PAkistani to have delivered just the right message to the Army and the ISI ! I don’t think even US could do the job so effectively.

    Pakistanis, if you are looking for PM material, here is the guy ! Likes of Imran Khan have no idea what the problems are and how the message needs to be delivered. They love praise and adulation of the masses but do not service to them. It is useles to talk about Gillani, Nawaz, Shabaz or that actor ex-FM- Qureshi.

    Delivering the right mesage at the right time to the right audience is the duty of every good leader !! All the joker leaders in Pakistan have been quite as geedars !Recommend

  • Nasir Jamshed
    Jun 8, 2011 - 2:57AM

    ISI and to a lesser extent army are both out of control. They pretty much do what they want to. I appreciate your bravery in writing this article.Recommend

  • Obsever from UK
    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:15AM

    Salut Ejaz vous etes magnifique. Recommend

  • Javed X
    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:17AM

    Thank you! Pakistan has become heaven of fascists – weather they be feudal, religious, or military/ISI. The real question is will Pakistanis succumb to this fascism or will we raise above it? I’m sure Gen. Pasha and his cohorts will not heed the anger of the nation. They will do what they have always done – when all you have is have is a hammer, everything starts looking like a nail. So they will continue to on their path to suppress anybody who questions their world view and false narrative based on existential threat from India. Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 3:22AM

    I love it when scholars don’t mince words – when they have the courage to speak truth to the power. We know it can be fatal, therefore, I salute Mr. Haider for speaking for us all.

    It is time now for our civilian leadership to borrow some courage from the likes of Mr. Haider as well. Ignoring the need to establish supremacy over the intelligence community would be a grave mistake on the part of Pakistan’s civilian government. Reducing the role of the military in the intelligence sector will allow the government to consolidate itself domestically, so it should be a top priority.

    Although reform to intelligence agencies will be difficult, the good news is that with patience, resolve, and international assistance, Pakistan’s government can indeed reassert civilian control over the intelligence community. Luckily for Pakistan, there are predecessors to take notes from. Indonesia and Chile have both undergone transformations in the intelligence arena and have plenty to offer Pakistan by way of example.

    Intelligence agencies reform in Indonesia and Chile became a reality after media began exposing the atrocities and, people had the courage to reject authoritarianism. Reform of the murky Indonesian intelligence service, Badan Intelijen Negara (BIN), were spurred by revelations that emerged in the trial of the alleged killer of the country’s top human right activist.

    Munir Said Thalib, died from arsenic poisoning while on a flight on Garuda, Indonesia’s national airline, from Jakarta to Amsterdam via Singapore on Sept. 7, 2004. Indonesian media exposed the hands behind Munir’s murder.

    Extensive exposure by the mass media of the massive human rights violations and power abuse by the Tentara Nasional Indonesia (TNI), led to the abrupt breakdown in its public image. And, the abolition of “Dwifungsi ABRI” (the dual-function of the military) became a major demand of the pro-democracy movement.

    I am hoping Saleem Shahzad’s murder will prompt changes in Pakistan but for that to happen Pakistani media’s role is necessary to question the functioning of ISI. I hope others will join Mr. Haider ….Recommend

  • Roflcopter
    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:23AM

    God bless the ISIRecommend

  • Srinath
    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:25AM

    Kudos to Ejazbhai for letting his heart find the words this time around. His last piece understandably drew flak. If intellectuals and scribes muster a fraction of the courage that Shahzad did in uncovering the unholy links and dark deeds of the establishment, and engage the nation in a honest debate on the questionable role of the Army and spooks, that would be the greatest tribute to the slain hero and a signal contribution to the society. Recommend

  • Tauqeer
    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:42AM

    wow, salutes mr.ejaz you are the man, did you forget yourself, who you are??? what was you throughout your studies?? you were so shameless and pathetic and now you wanna teach others and tell them to be ashamed of theirselves. come on, you are the weapons of western interests, you are the black sheeps of media and enemies of pakistan. I don’t know how can i let others know about your reality. you and likes of you deserves a book to be written on, but a book which takes off the mask from the face of media…. hmm who is gonna publish that… you guys will live and live long and keep on driving people in the opposite direction. and at last destroy pakistan. syed saleem did something that should be stopped. approching to secret stuff of your own interest is never good for you mr. never.Recommend

  • Babloo
    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:45AM

    Too little. Too late.
    Mr Ejaz Haider, has spent years, propogating the theories and agenda of ISI/Aarmy, cloaked in the most estructive term invented , ‘national interest’.
    Its such conduct, which has contributed to national decay.Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 3:45AM

    General Pasha reads The News. Great article nevertheless.
    It is all about the fundamentals Reminded me of Mohsin Hamid.Recommend

  • Ali Wazir
    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:46AM

    Bravo Sir….. Do keep a ticket out of the country..these ppl dont appreciate honesty..Recommend

  • Emmon Khan
    Jun 8, 2011 - 4:00AM

    Simply majistic Ejaz Haider!!! You have really really marvolously spoken the heart of all Pakistanis! I wish these blind and deaf and dumb guys: the ISI and other so-called saviours of Pakistan will listen. Kindly keep safe after this!!!Recommend

  • Muhammad Tayyab Tayyab
    Jun 8, 2011 - 4:05AM

    Dear Sir/Brother,
    The Writer of this column, i am ordinary civilian, not linked to any govt. agency of dept … YES i do feel pain of Mr. Saleem brutal murder …

    kindly do not jump on to conclusion, before proper investigation of the case… We are in “Middle Of Terror” means multiple Anti-Pakistani forces are exercising there tactics to harm our beloved nation, since ISI is 1st line of defense of Pakistan so they are doing anything to break this defense line at any cost… (the only way to beat break ISI security, to make Peoples of Pakistan against this organization)

    We are humans, not puppets of anyone… your knowledge about ISI is good enough, have to made any research on CIA or RAW or MI6 ? (believe me they all do same type of tactics)

    Example: Real peoples 9/11 complainer or witness never been on “world Stage” which power has turned them down ? ……simply …CIA (in USA)

    People benefited by “Spectrum Scandal” are protected by RAW (in india)

    in simple words… every Intelligence Agency has history of “tasks” contradicted to own nations law or Internationale laws

    I just like to say, ISI and all Forces of Pakistan are responsible and professionals institutes, they do have self-diagnostic and self-Correction systems, which are 24/7 active and focused on officers and individuals working in respected organizations…

    Yes, each organization has self made limits of tolerance of errors, they do systematically act within that limits … for your information “killing/murder” is beyond limit of any security organization…!!!

    i know you are journalist, your vision might be more wider than my experience, i am somebody who has spent years on research on this topic….

    can you answer me following ?

    Q) What is Asia Times ? web based newspaper ?
    how many such newspapers can be made to “Hire” best journalist to assign “spy jobs” ?

    when Pakistan is target of Multi-Powers, we suppose to be careful to start “blame game” on national security organizations

    (i am deeply sorry if i had hurt you or might be my message has any error)

    Pakistan Zindaabad
    fi aman AllahRecommend

  • Imran
    Jun 8, 2011 - 4:53AM

    I can already see Mr Pasha peeing in his trousers after reading this piece………..NOT.Recommend

  • shair khan
    Jun 8, 2011 - 5:13AM

    Hats off to Ejaz Haider. I also hope Ejaz that you do not live in Pakistan.

    I DO NOT expect ISI to do any thing.

    Rumors are that all the phone record of his and his family before his killing are lost. Recommend

  • ahmed
    Jun 8, 2011 - 5:35AM

    He wrote exactly what we civilian thinks about them.i like it its not you G.Pasha.or Military
    its civilian who will make the policies and rules for you to obey and implement with the ordors of civilian .


  • Mir Agha
    Jun 8, 2011 - 5:49AM

    Seems like conspiracy theories against an ineffective ‘deep state’ are fine, but pointing out the complete failure of the ‘civilians’ and their leftists warmongers is not. Recommend

  • sundar
    Jun 8, 2011 - 6:02AM

    Mr. Haider I am really worried for your safety. Please take care.Recommend

  • K B Kale
    Jun 8, 2011 - 6:04AM

    You are absolutely right! Your comment “your abiding and unshakable faith in the army and ISI to “save this country” is somewhat bizarre” reminded me of another comment on Tribune. The writer had called Pakistan’s Armed Forces as a “bunch of self-glorified nincompoops who have yet to win a single war!”
    How true!Recommend

  • Dr. Aslam
    Jun 8, 2011 - 6:05AM

    Great article. ISI and army must change their mindset.Recommend

  • Syed Najam Uddin
    Jun 8, 2011 - 6:06AM

    What a self aggrandizing piece and a delusional indictment of ISI. Keep to writing Dear Mr. President emails Ijaz your much better there with the ponytail ofcourse.Recommend

  • Abbas from the USA
    Jun 8, 2011 - 6:13AM

    Mr Haider,

    Commendable recognition of your journalistic reponsiblity.
    As I said earlier, it will be only journalists like yourself and Syed Saleem Shazad willing to fullfill their sacred duty to the Pakistani people who will help possibly bring about this long overdue change.
    I wish someone like you had stepped upto the plate and spoken up in 1970-1971 when West Pakistani civilian politicians along with the Armed Forces chiefs had teamed up to deprive the elected majority of their right to form the Government.
    But nevertheless your courageous decision to speak up deserves applaud from the Pakistani nation as well as the diaspora.
    First of all these questions should have come from the civilian government, but their lust for power has disabled them from the discharge of their duties towards the Constitution of Pakistan. It is high time the the Armed forces were made subservient to civilian authority.
    Although your colleague paid for with his life in the quest for truth, I can only wish the best and hope Pakistani journalists will stand behind you.
    Thank you sir you have taken the first step.Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 6:33AM

    Eloquently put, Ejaz sahab! I wish it does not fall on deaf ears this time. Recommend

  • vasan
    Jun 8, 2011 - 6:56AM

    Ejaz Haider, Pl take care of your security, sir. ISI should be dismantled and prosecuted. No other solution for the salvation of pakistan. Recommend

  • oracle
    Jun 8, 2011 - 7:32AM

    i totally agre wuth your comments and analaysis. I would just like to add that it is of utmost importance that the armed forces of any country can only succeed in the discharge of their duties to defend the state ,if fro they are backed by the respect and love of the people for their soldiers.
    i ask if the people of pakistan have such sentiments ?

    a few years back an incoming army chief was asked his opinion on the threat perception from the pakistan army. his reponse was telling. he responded that the pakistan army was no longer in the business of war; it was in the business of real estate.

    And why has the army abdicated its primary role of defending the frontiers by out -sourcing its responsibilty to jihadee organistaions.

    and what about giving osama sanctuary within a kilometer from the kakul academy. do the expect us to believe that ,they were innocently ignorant. if indeed they did not know then they are guilty of gross incometence which is even worse.

    many people now believe that there no existential threat to pakistan fro india or
    other neighbours. its only projected to garner a major portion of the revenues of the state.

    and why shouldnt their budget not come under public scrutiny. arm purchases are no secret since long—pick up JANES and it will tell you all.

    at a time when the country is reeling under an economic crunch the armed forces continue to buy toys that we dont need. it has even increased its budget for the next year.
    they should pause and think and stop oppressing the people of pakistan by sucking up resources which can be utilised for the anelioration of health education clean drinking water.Recommend

  • paindo
    Jun 8, 2011 - 7:44AM

    bold and constructive, thank you ejaz hyderRecommend

  • White Russian
    Jun 8, 2011 - 8:04AM

    The good one.Recommend

  • Babar Khan Javed
    Jun 8, 2011 - 8:25AM

    The ISI are what stand between the peace you citizens have now and a macro scale invasion from our enemies.

    Your ungrateful stand has been noted.Recommend

  • AD
    Jun 8, 2011 - 8:27AM

    Writing letter to ISI head?Darn…..Situation has crossed the limits. Send an SOS to UN.Recommend

  • ghazni
    Jun 8, 2011 - 8:46AM

    Fantastic my honourable. In this article you have worked as our mouth-piece. We hope you will keep up this new style. Thanks Recommend

  • crime master gogo
    Jun 8, 2011 - 9:10AM

    execellent piece of writing. May Allah swt save you from the wrath of Intelligence Agencies if they were behind murder of Salim or those hidden hands that are trying to malign the image of ISI.Recommend

  • Muhammad
    Jun 8, 2011 - 9:15AM

    “I understand the theoretical and practical dimensions of statecraft better and more deeply than your entire agency.”

    An egoistic claim Ejaz! Put yourself in the same shoes and you will experience theory is far different than reality.

    Interestingly Washington Think Tanks like The Middle East Institute is also holding a session on “Inside Pakistan’s ISI” on 13 June. I hope such events are not linked with op-eds appearing in local media.

    Wish you sanity Recommend

  • Sanjeev Jha
    Jun 8, 2011 - 9:29AM

    The best respect for Saleem Sehzaad is to speak TRUTH and Ejaz bhai you have done the same.

    Two paralles – This is the first time i am seeing people in Pakistan asking question from their military masters, and in India people asking tough and truthfull question from politician on corruption.

    Both of the objectives needs to reach their conclusive ends, its worth coming on the street for the reason.Recommend

  • Thinking_mind
    Jun 8, 2011 - 9:43AM

    Irony, the agency which exists to protect Pakistan is doing exactly the opposite.

    Great job, Ejaz!!!! Keep it up…. Recommend

  • SAAwais
    Jun 8, 2011 - 9:43AM

    Times are indeed changing. The mere fact that such a piece could appear in the mainstream print media gives me unbridled hope that we soon would be able to turn the tide and finally make our motherland a truly democratic state as envisaged by the founder of this rather unfortunate nation. Well done Mr. Haider!

    Long Live Pakistan!Recommend

  • Shaukat Qadir
    Jun 8, 2011 - 9:44AM

    sometimes you surprise even me.
    Wonderfully, courageously written, well supported by the science of democratic norms, and yet not overboard.
    Extremely well done.

    Jun 8, 2011 - 9:54AM

    i hope Gen pasha reads it and learn somethingRecommend

  • ashok sai
    Jun 8, 2011 - 10:03AM

    At last, outburst from a fellow journalist.

    @ Ejaz & ET

    This is the first step, a pat on back to both of you as too much compliments makes you complacent. Continue with your good work. Recommend

  • Shahid Saeed
    Jun 8, 2011 - 10:08AM

    ISI in particular and Army in general has brought more misery to people of Pakistan than any outside enemy. This is time to call the spade a spade. ISI needs to be restructured and brought under civilian control. Nothing less will make citizens safe and Pakistan survive as a nation state. If there is no fear that these rouge defenders will join terrorists, better to dismantle agency altogether and give the task to MI for defense purposes. Recommend

  • Shahid Saeed
    Jun 8, 2011 - 10:15AM

    ISI in particular and Army in general has brought more misery to people of Pakistan than any outside enemy. This is time to call the spade a spade. ISI needs to be restructured and brought under civilian control. Nothing less will make citizens safe and Pakistan survive as a nation state. If there is no fear that these rouge defenders will join terrorists, better to dismantle agency altogether and give the task to MI for defense purposes.

    Who has given the mandate to these little educated men with IQ level below room temperature to define what ‘national interest’ is? This is we, the people to define. I do agree with Ijaz that we does so through our representatives. Not through these Duffers who always failed in performing their duty and are active to takeover the duty of parliament.

    If Pasha fails to handover his guys to face trial, we should hold a public trial and ask parliament to declare his agency ‘enemy of state’ and ban it. Enough is enough, either they should accept accountability and civilian rule or should cease to act as an organisation under state.

    . Recommend

  • ashwin
    Jun 8, 2011 - 10:15AM

    you are true centrist, well done.Hope fully you do not face any negative repercussion for your piece.Anyways Good luck with building a better and promising Pakistan. Recommend

  • Shahid Saeed
    Jun 8, 2011 - 10:32AM

    @Muhammad Tayyab

    Why you need to assure others that you do not belong to army or agency?

    Job of ISI is to identify threat and not to act as police, court and executor. They run terrorist camps, they kidnap and torture people and they do kill. Nothing of that is secret. Should not they be accountable for these crimes?
    Let us assume that Saleem Shehzad was bad guy (which he was not) and was working for a website which is against Pakistan, Is that enough to kidnap and kill him? Then we should shut the courts and policing system and give these funds to ISI to do the justice.
    3.If ISI is not involved in mirder and beliving your conspiracy theories, is not it agency’s job to being the murderers of a Pakistani to justice? ISI is rather threatening his family. There is evidence that they promised to HRW and his wife that Saleem Shehzad will be released.
    The major concern here is that ISI should not act as a court and executor but act under the law of land. It should not formulate policies but act on directions of civilians. Is it too much to ask?

    Your comments the mindset of ISI which itself is biggest threat to Pakistan and its people. We have to choose from Pakistan and ISI, certainly I will go for Pakistan as I do not have another country. Agency we can built, if we survived as a nation, which is more important. Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 10:39AM

    Sir jee! you have cha-ed… Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 10:41AM

    @Ejazhaider – Kia baat hai apki!
    This piece reminded me of that speech Khawaja Asif delivered during a session of the National Assembly tellin the Army- its generals in specific- how it was and how it needed to be… that speech was less factual and academic in its content …

    The insights on concepts of State/Public Policy/Publicadmin coupled with the elegant flow of this piece make it special…Bohat Ala!!
    Straight from the heart and for that I think this takes 5 out of 5 Jaleibis.
    Rating: @@@@@ – Job done great!!Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 10:43AM

    Dear Genl. Pasha: You may have done commendable services for Your Country and People for which you have been overloaded with Awards and Rewards..But its about time to PackUp and go Home…Recommend

  • Timur Beg
    Jun 8, 2011 - 10:47AM

    Gen Pasha,
    I hope you have read the article.Think deeply about it.Recommend

  • Khurram
    Jun 8, 2011 - 10:55AM

    Well said. We hope against the hope that Pasha will not order for your head.Recommend

  • narayana murthy
    Jun 8, 2011 - 11:05AM

    @ Mohammad Tayyab, who says “People benefited by “Spectrum Scandal” are protected by RAW (in india)”.

    I never read this in Indian news papers. Perhaps, you have people who have penetrated RAW.

    If you say CBI is protecting these people, is possible. Because, CBI is government’s puppet. However, most people who had direct links and evidences in spectrum scandal are behind bars.

    By the way, good article, however, these days (since Osama’s death), I’m reading many such articles. Some targeting the army and others targeting ISI. Has it made any difference? Time will tell.Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 11:07AM

    It’s really sad what happened to Saleem Shahzad, but I’m sure there’ll be no results…Recommend

  • narayana murthy
    Jun 8, 2011 - 11:09AM

    Mr. Agha says “Seems like conspiracy theories against an ineffective ‘deep state’ are fine, but pointing out the complete failure of the ‘civilians’ and their leftists warmongers is not.”

    I think, in Pakistan’s case, civilian government has been browbeaten by army ALL THE TIME. I don’t know if, Jinnah’s regime had to face this problem, but I’m 100% sure that the following civilian governments never had a free hand at governing the country. Recommend

  • Ali
    Jun 8, 2011 - 11:33AM

    Wow! In our country, every Tom, Dick and Harry is a statesman! No wonder we are such a successful and envied society…Recommend

  • Nasrat Baloch
    Jun 8, 2011 - 11:37AM

    I wish Ejaz Haider could go beyond Saleem Shezad and not been specific on journalists only.Recommend

  • Umair
    Jun 8, 2011 - 11:45AM

    I hope the author also realizes the irony that underlies the piece. He is asking the alleged tormentor to subject itself to justice. We wouldn’t have been in this mess in the first place, if the Generals and minions that run the ISI-military combine were that level-headed and fair-minded to subject themselves and their policies to self-criticism. I do agree with the point that military should not formulate policy but , in my view, the author is barking up the wrong tree. The ISI-military combine will never open itself to any accountability; whether it is about the murder of a journalist or the inner working of its wider policy making process, unless it is forced to do so by elements beyond its control. The current civilian setup is too week to be that force. We need a few more debacles at the magnitude of 1971 and Operation Geronimo to have any hope of making that happen. The irony!.Recommend

  • A. R.
    Jun 8, 2011 - 11:54AM

    For all those saying that ISI killed Saleem Shahzad, I simply ask if you have any proof? Even if circumstantial evidence points to the ISI they are innocent until proven guilty by the law of civilization. Second, how many of you have bothered to investigate Asia Times Online for whome SS worked? It is an Indian front organisation with the sole aim of defaming Pakistan. I wish the journalist community that is so quick to identify with SS would do some investigations. Third, 15 journalists were killed this year, why was none noticed by Secretary Clinton and UN Secretary General? Fourth, his last article in AsiaTimesOnline had the sole purpose of diverting attention away from India and towards Taliban while giving a stupid theory that mullah Bardar gave away the location of Osama Bin Laden in return for an American withdrawal from Afghanistan. Why was he writing such nonsense? Sixth, according to his own profile on AsiaTimesOnline, his speciality was the power sector and aviation. Doesn’t it seem odd that suddenly he was interviewing Ilyas Kashmiri, Hakeemullah and other militants who specifically target Pakistan? I wish people would do some investigation before jumping on the bandwagonRecommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 11:56AM

    Well done Ejaz, buck up Ejaz, great piece Ejaz, be careful Ejaz, salute to you Ejaz, bla bla. This is what all you wanted to hear? So heard it? Must be feeling happy now especially when the applauses are heard from the enemy gallery? In the whole piece I agree with only one thing that “If the people of this country feel proud to be Pakistanis, you will have that strength at your back. If they don’t, that makes you very weak too.” And you are polluting their minds so they should feel ashamed thus weakening the Army’s back. As one Babur Chughtai rightly commented that “For someone who has been writing with reason and logic, it is unfortunate to see you here riding the anti-Pakistani military wave, which has its roots outside Pakistan. Address the truth, not the gallery, Mr. Ejaz”.
    When the salvo comes via Brookings Institution’s Foreign Policy Studies Program, when one points a direct and deliberate accusing finger at someone without any solid proof, when every member of a ‘Pack’ starts dancing on the same symphony and when the kettle starts calling the pots black then don’t expect that your ‘straight forwardness will have any worth, ‘Mr. Upright’. Bashing ISI and the Army has become a fashion these days and above all you are doing a fine job by pleasing your Masters. After all you have to return the favors. I am damn sure that now it will be said that this is written by some ISI agent because what you people say, qualifies as the freedom of press but what others say is always said by agents. Everyone knows the hidden links of Cafe Piyala, Bolta Pakistan, Daily Times, Apas ki Baat and many others but very few knows that this venom is spitted by a military academy thrown out disgruntle dude. Please do tell your fans that why you were booted out from PMA. Now don’t say that it was again for your straight forwardness.
    Saleem Shahzad’s death is no doubt a heinous crime and the culprits should be brought to justice but the lead and direction you people are giving shows the depth of your honesty, sincerity and respect for the forces.
    Muzaffar Ali Sial rightly pointed out that, “Is it not a strange thing that Ilyas Kashmiri was also killed in a deadly drone attack after a few days of Saleem Shahzad who had close links with Kashmiri as Shahzad was the only person who interviewed Kashmiri and his last story also confirmed there still close links?” Why don’t your honesty and bravery consider CIA or RAW as the suspected culprits? Simply, because they are orchestrating the notes that compel you to dance. Pity the Nation that has a media like a Bull in China Shop. By the way, well done Ejaz, keep it up. After all that’s what you desperately expecting from your readers.Recommend

  • Saad Durrani
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:02PM

    I am not sure from which region you are but honorable peoples honor the death of their loved ones first. Last week, he wrote a plain obituary. This week, he played it to his strengths. Recommend

  • Nabiha Chauhdry
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:05PM

    The class that Ejaz Haider is! Brilliantly done..Recommend

  • A J Khan
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:05PM

    This is all rhetoric and public speaking. The courts have proved their independence. Media trial is frivolous and trivial. Remedy should be sought in the court and not through slander.Recommend

  • Aristo
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:10PM

    I, personally fully endorse your letter and feel perhaps that it is indeed the voice of our nation. If we could just rally back on your letter and turn this into a movement but then reality hits and reminds that all of the things you said in the letter would fall on deaf ears, as no one can put sense in the mind of those who are headed towards self- annihilation. Recommend

  • Omer
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:16PM


    There you go, you hand him/ISI the baton again…

    “That is also the only way you can save this country.”

    I think the idea of them saving the country on their own is where the problem started..?!Recommend

  • mind control
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:25PM

    @Ejaz Haider


    A much needed and welcome departure from your take on the same issue in Pakistan Today.I hope the soul searching leads to some home truths. And lets hope the home truths lead to a different wotld view. And lets hope the changed world view leads to a better Pakistan.

    All the best.Recommend

  • Feroz
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:38PM

    This letter is going to have the same effect as a dog barking at a wild Elephant. We can all pat ourselves on the back on writing such public letters but do little else when even the peoples elected leaders(Parliament) cower in fear and lack the courage to challenge the Khaki uniform.Recommend

  • sarim
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:43PM

    excellent article. Pen without courage is like an impotent man. May God save you from the wrath of ISI and the mandarins of military.Recommend

  • Independent from UK
    Jun 8, 2011 - 12:59PM

    @asif chauhdary:
    I don’t think you are speaking from your own conscience.
    Your testimonial in favour of ISI and other agencies will not sway the opinion in favour of these hideous operatives who inflict pain on many with impunity. The people have broken taboo and have gathered courage to ask pertinent questions to these generals. The reign of generals is over. Rest assured who so ever you are.Recommend

  • Shahid Saeed
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:05PM

    GREAT piece, Ejaz Sb.!
    Am reminded of Shaw: ‘But I dream things that never were; and I say, Why not?’

  • parvez
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:10PM

    You have done the Press / Media proud.Recommend

  • sri
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:16PM

    @Muzaffar Ali Sial:
    If people of Pakistan want an agency which can guide its democracy, then it is for them to decide.But trying to equate ISI with RAW won’t help. It can only help the Establishment in Pakistan to deny democratic rights to its people. Yes there are human rights violations in India too. But RAW’s operations do not even compare remotely with the ‘exploits’ of ISI .In fact, even in the days of Emergency, during the mid 70’s, when there was a spurt in HR violations, nobody blamed RAW. May be you should try better excuses. Recommend

  • Manoj
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:19PM

    It seems Pakistani common citizen has finally come to the conclusion that most of their misfortune are created by the internal forces like power hungray, money sucking politician and army.

    Hence, I belive, time is ripe for all the honest, upright and people of repute to give voice to the anger of the people, and best way will be to go for a mass base non violent struggle to get rid of the present govt. They should force the govt. to call for a fresh election in which civil society get thier own candidates elelcted, write a new constitution with fundamental rights and relgious equality as the core values. Go for a no war pact with India duly guarnteed by P5 and UNO and gradually trim the armed forcess to the level of paramilitary forces.

    I think this is the only right cource for pakistan to come out of the present crisis.Recommend

  • Sheheryar
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:24PM

    Such is the material in this piece that it has even touched a pro-ISI person to think. Beautifully articulated, Mr Ejaz.Recommend

  • sri
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:26PM

    @Muhammad Tayyab Tayyab:
    Good stuff from IS’s PR Department. Small correction. Most of the culprits in Spectrum scandal ( of India) including the ex-Cabinet Minister are rotting in the Tihar Jail. Don’t compare oranges and apples.Recommend

  • Malik Rashid
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:31PM

    Wonder how could one expect the government to act against transgressions and murders by the ISI. They can’t as much as nominate a fair-minded, powerful commission to investigate Abbottabad incident. Findings of Hammod ur Rehman commission have not been made public yet. So, ‘hope’ is a repeat of error in this case or plain BS. However, recent outpouring of condemnation against army and ISI is a positive movement. There could be another assault on media-freedom and democracy. But Pakistan’s rulers have committed grave crimes. Patronizing terrorism and nuclear proliferation will not continue unhindered. Chile and Indonesia broke out of fascist mold but Hitler’s Germany had to be defeated in a war. Since 1947, militarization, coerced patriotism and common enemy defines Pakistan. The state is owned by security establishment as well as all real estate and business enterprise within. Those not owned by army belong to their compliant politicians. Adding USA on the list of common enemy is like cutting the tree they sat on so far. Movement of history is ironic and it certainly is cruel. Worst part is collateral damage.Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 1:36PM

    Fully endorse your comments sirRecommend

  • Nadeem
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:52PM

    @TightDhoti: They can read the constitution of Pakistan a hundred times, it is still ‘a bloody piece of paper that can be torn up and thrown in the trash bin anytime’Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 1:56PM

    The country is at war and all these journalists can do is keep clinging to one dead man and ranting on and on, ignoring the fact that Saleem was last briefed by DG FIA Tariq Khoosa, not the ISI. Recommend

  • Karim
    Jun 8, 2011 - 1:57PM

    as habib jalib said “yeh fauj apni qom ko mehsoor kar ke naz karti hay”, they take all the resources and like a cancer are destroying the country. I’ve heard since childhood that the army wont allow a strong democracy to be established to prevent its hold on all aspect of power to be eroded. Shame on them, shame on us (for allowing this to happen)…Recommend

  • ali
    Jun 8, 2011 - 2:01PM

    Jumping to conclusions….. is that what statecraft teaches. While gruesome killing of Saleem Shahzad is deplorable, Mr. Ejaz is cashing the event for self aggrandizement and self projection. I wonder how could he claim to “understand the theoretical and practical dimensions of statecraft better and more deeply than the entire agency.” After all what else one can expect from a person who was thrown out the military academy, other than vengeance, venomous allegations and maligning state institutions. Morality demands that he testifies before the judicial commission if he can prove his point, contrarily it manifests that he has been paid the price for dancing to the tunes of his masters (CIA)in advancing the ‘great game’. Recommend

  • saad chaudhary
    Jun 8, 2011 - 2:04PM

    “Wall Street Journal reporter Saleem Shehzad was investigating the man who allegedly planned the PNS mehran attacks on navel defense in Karachi. When he was kidnapped and murdered, according to two former ISI officials. A former case officer in the agency’s Directorate of Operations, said he provided Saleem with unpublished information about these attacks, who has since been discussed by media officials of being one of the masterminds of the PNS mehran attacks.Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 2:04PM

    @A. R.:

    Very true AR but trust me this is a planned campaign against the armed forces and ISI, though very unfortunate. This is a special class having vested interests, more oppropriately can be called ‘Liberal Fascists’. There is a saying in Punjabi for them “Chor naalay Chatar” sojust keep listening to them. I believe that whosoever has betrayed this Holy Motherland has seen the horrible end. Just look back at history. Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 2:12PM

    Mess with a Bull and you’ll get a horn. Recommend

  • shahzain
    Jun 8, 2011 - 2:29PM

    aoa pls be sure you are doing something good for your isolated ejaz i feel your imotion over took your professional obligations as ehixibitted by media persons of israel,india.asma jahanjir went to india to cover human rights voilation by pakistani troops and indian only turned up on the day when she roared on pakistani forces but remained absent next day when she had to talk on kashmir atrocities. Washington post.speigal,guardian,india today are few example where you find national interest supreme and they resort to social issues then just to sensitized masses.if you are sincere then you can get acess to him but if you want cheap popularity by writing open letter this will not serve the dear we need people like you but not at the cost of national interest.pls write something about those efforts of police,rangers,fc,army which are going unheard owing to no media projection.recently British journalist went on flight which was destined for pre-mission confirmation- to libya to project the efforts being put in by British armed one from British media discusses the atrocities in supplement i can give you american media example who have kept their eyes shut on the involvement of american troops in afghanistan brutal killings or treatment of prisoners of guantanamo bay,america supporting Saudi Arabia/Bahrain’s kingship as they serve their interests .their media is is not fame centric or have lust for handsome amount for writing something may have some truth but unwittingly supporting the cross frontiers interests.pls come ahead to give solutions to confronted challenges to our nation as a whole.your armed forces are not aliens some of them are my relatives and some of them are yours.when you write such baseless without evidence cooked stories spirit of soldiers fighting along western borders will go down.if they retreat then who will go to guard these territorial borders.your neighbouring enemies want to break the will of these soldiers.During Sri lanka fight against terrorists or Indian tropps in Kasmir their medi remained mature and did not write anything wrong about these poor soldiers.any complaint against your institutions has to be rooted throuhj right channel .if publicise it so wont be able to serve the purpose i.e to effect change for betterment.i appeal you all pls see international media ,they resort to national interest besides sensitizing already terrified nation.Recommend

  • Saleem
    Jun 8, 2011 - 2:43PM

    Dear Ejaz sahab

    what is probably required is an urdu or even better a punjabi translation to be understood by the real movers and shakers Recommend

  • ishrat salim
    Jun 8, 2011 - 2:44PM

    This is just great !…keep it up Ejaz Sb…may Allah swt protect you & yr family…may we hv more such courageous people & Ejaz Sb…do not worry …we are behind you all the way.

    It is high time…this sacred cow shud be held by its horn….enough is enough.

    However, it need courage & bold leadership in our civilian set-up to accept the challenge to bring this ” sacred cow ‘under civilian control….which I do not see at the moment.

    The present leadership has allocated Rs 150 b extra to the Armed forces in this budget which is over & abv its allocated budget…what does that mean ?? scratch my back & I will scratch yours…You give us money & we will not interfere in the civilian set-up…now how does this sound…??

    CC to Gen Kiyani Sb, President & PM & to all others who are still in the state of denial.Recommend

    Jun 8, 2011 - 2:57PM

    Great article Ejaz sab, Times has changed , ISI and Army cant control everything now. Social media has brought dictator husni mubarak down, it was a very brutal regim bring down by people through social media. People has started speaking against brutal ISI and Army now.Fear has gone.times has changed. ISI cant harass, torture and kill their own peolple anymore.They have been exposed.But i have a question , WHERE IS CHIEF JUSTICE? We pakistani people, specialy media struggled very hard for 2 years for the restoration of CJ.We were told by lawyers leaders, media people that once IFTIKHAR CHOUDRY get restored there will be complete rule of law, he will protect the weak.Why is he silent when the whole world knows who killed Salim shazad. what we struggled for? did we struggle for rule of law or only to get him his job back. He took notice of minor issue of 3 bottles of Atiqa odho but he is quite on this brutal murder of an innocent journalist.Why is he so selective?Journalist supported CJ very much in his restoration movment but when media needs him to protect them why is he silent?

  • Hamid
    Jun 8, 2011 - 2:58PM

    Do you Know the age of Pakistan?
    if not, its 64 years.
    If you are a Pakistani today, its because of ISI and Pak Army.
    I know you’ve got angry.
    You want to know How long more Pakistan will live.
    Give Pakistan to current politicians and you can have it too for as long as you want.
    You will know Paks life.
    Let politicians and ISI do their job as they are doing today.
    Pray for politicians onlyRecommend

    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:12PM

    Some pro-ISI comments here are of people from cyber wing of ISI. They are monitoring all websites and trying their best to divert the blame and spread conspiracy theories to save ISI. Sorry people its to late for you.

  • VLRao
    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:13PM

    Hear! Hear!Recommend

  • Umm Ayyanah
    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:29PM

    Very well said sir … From now on you and your family will be in my duas. May Allah (swt) protect you and your family. AmeenRecommend

  • Aftab
    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:32PM

    “The military-ISI combine has no business defining Pakistan’s interest. That is our job and we, the civilians, will do it through our representatives. Your job is to implement, not formulate, policies.”

    The summary of what must be done to avoid a collapse of Pakistan. Recommend

    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:40PM

    sorry ISI dont try to shape opinion in your favoure on different sites. You have been badly exposed. Cyber wing of ISI is no more helpful now. Time has changed, world has changed. You have to accept the face that you cant control everything any more. Recommend

  • Ishtiaq Ahmed
    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:44PM

    Bold and factual! Pakistan has slipped into a state like Chile did under Pinochet. Mid-night knocks and disappearances are not uncommon now. Pakistan today is battered not only by the terrorists but the also by the invisible agents of the state who act far and beyond their remit, all in the name of protecting the national interest. What next? The mass graves?Recommend

  • Mehmal
    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:52PM

    Thank you for writing this Ejaz. Recommend

  • fayyaz hyder mangi
    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:57PM

    Also…. it is for the misguided search of its own journalists and politicians that the agency is unable to find beforehand the perpetrators of GHQ and Mehran base attack ……..Keep up with such a good writing and keep away from TV.Recommend

  • Shahid Saeed
    Jun 8, 2011 - 3:58PM

    They had no idea that Osama Bin Laden was hiding outside their training academy.
    They do not know how American choppers reached Abbotabad and what they did there.
    They are clueless as to how a half dozen terrorists took over GHQ.
    They have no knowledge of how 6 terrorists seiged Naval Headquarters for 18 hours.
    They have no idea as to who killed Saleem Shahzad as they deny killing him.

    But sit with a General for few minutes and you will know the Real Estate prices all over the country.

    They proudly boast of ousting Benazir Bhutto’s govt as she was a traitor.
    They are proud to arrest and detain Nawaz Sharaif as he is a traitor.
    They killed Bhutto as he was a traitor.
    They think and have proofs of Asfand Yar Khan being Indian agent.
    They are sure that MQM is an extension of RAW.

    They are proud of making and breaking political alliances. They are distracting debate and bully intellectuals. They kidnap their own people and kill with impunity. They love killing Bhutto’s and popular leaders of country.

    All their incompetence in their professional duties comes for Rs. 800 Billion a year. They spend more in a single day than entire years budget for health and education and only thing they have are sex tapes of politicians while clueless about security issues.

    @Mr. Asif Chaudhary, Leave Saleem Shahzad’s murder aside, are all above baseless allegations. Please say YES if you have no conscious inside. How long they want to outsource their duties to terrorists and be engaged in Real Estate business and politics? Please say all about facts are false. Tell us that they did not FAILED in their professional responsible and never destroyed country for plots and kick-backs.

    Nation will only stand behind them when they confessed and changed. Beofre that they are nothing but a gang of thugs, an occupation force oppressing their own people. Recommend

  • Pakistani
    Jun 8, 2011 - 4:03PM

    What an audacious and brazen piece. I am so proud of you. You speak the heart out for the people of Pakistan. Today the biggest danger to the existense of Pakistan is not from outside but from inside. The mass weaponization in the country, the widespread jihadi network, corrupt and inept politicians, no rule of law, and limping democracy ; all are the precious gifts of our military establishment to us.

    The India-phobia has been carefully orchestrated and purposely continued to enjoy the greatest share of the pie without being accounatble to anyone.

    This is time for the politicians to act like men and take the rein under the control of civil administration to finally empower the people of Pakistan.

    Hats off to Mr. Haider and ET.Recommend

  • Shahid Saeed
    Jun 8, 2011 - 4:05PM


    Being thrown out of a military academy which for five long years remained clueless about presence of worlds top terrorists outside its wall’s, should be a pride not a shame! No doubt that academy produces duffers and throws out every little piece of brain. Do you agree? Recommend

  • Ashok Jha
    Jun 8, 2011 - 4:07PM

    My respect for Mr. Haider has only increased by many fold. i have been reading him wherever i find him. not everybody is audacious enough to say the truth as it should be said. you sir, deserve to be cheered and lauded. your article reflects the pain, the anguish and the worries of a common pakistani.though i do not think The Agency can harm you but better still, be on your guard.Recommend

  • Arif
    Jun 8, 2011 - 4:23PM

    What to talk about only one journalist………. who will take responsibility of thousands of missing persons in this country….even our FAMOUS supreme court has gone into suspicious silence……..our whole society has become corrupt from top to bottom because every Pakistani is pursuing either his personal gains to meet his earnings or harboring the interests of someone influential in his life. It’s going to be total failure unless we start thinking only as PAKISTANI irrespective of religious and cultural differences and practical support of TRUTH and only TRUTH.Recommend

  • hallaj
    Jun 8, 2011 - 4:34PM

    I fail to understand how the killing of Syed Saleem Shahzad is linked with writer’s claim that he knows more than the entire agency.
    True, it is not the army’s job to define national interest. But let’s face the reality: It’s the incompetence on part of politicians which led us to this stage. Do you think, Mr. Ahmad Mukhtar has the right knowledge of defining national interest? I doubt it. Recommend

  • mind control
    Jun 8, 2011 - 4:35PM


    “Second, how many of you have bothered to investigate Asia Times Online for whome SS worked? It is an Indian front organisation with the sole aim of defaming Pakistan.”

    A. Did your ‘investigations’ not show that Asia Times Online has its ‘ Head Office at Unit B, 16/F, Li Dong Building, No. 9 Li Yuen Street East, Central, Hong Kong’?

    B. Did you also miss out that Hong Kong is in China? Yes, the eternal friend China.

    C. Does this imply that India, the eternal enemy and China the eternal friend have come together ‘with the sole aim of defaming Pakistan’?


    D. ISI had called Late Saleem Shahzad for an interview in October,2010. Did ISI also miss out on the ‘Indian front organisation’ part due to a malfunctioning radar?Recommend

  • K B Kale
    Jun 8, 2011 - 4:42PM

    The most readable part of every newspaper is the Readers’ Forum because it represents how the literate people of a given country thinks & expresses.
    I read DAWN & Tribune regularly, particularly the Readers’ column. And as a Hindu Indian who hopes to see a good neighborly relationship between us, I clearly perceive a definite shift amongst the literate Pakistani people towards the advice given by your ex-PM Mr Nawaz Sharif who urged Pakistan to stop considering India as the biggest enemy. He also appealed Pakistan Government to re-appraise its relations with India to take Pakistan on the path of growth. That is real statesmanship.
    I am hoping for the day when Pakistan will realize that only India is its genuine & best friend, its other “all-weather”/”forever” friendship notwithstanding! Our experience with the ‘forever’ friendship has been “too maan yaa na maan, main teraa mehmaan“!
    So Pakistan, beware!Recommend

  • Safiya Aftab
    Jun 8, 2011 - 4:46PM


  • Dr Yousaf
    Jun 8, 2011 - 4:55PM

    Dear Ejaz Sb,

    A well articualted article truly expressing the pain and sorrow of everyone but then isn’t your tirade of frustration borne out of the national/international propoganda onslaught against the ISI? Aren’t your arguments and insinuations, especially your last para “I would expect that you would do everything to prove that Saleem was not murdered by the ISI” akin to “Guilty till proven innocent”?Recommend

  • Ali Sher Mussali
    Jun 8, 2011 - 4:57PM

    Lovely! god bless you long life and courage to your family and friends.

    AS Mussali

  • Latif
    Jun 8, 2011 - 5:07PM

    Well written
    Just to cite a case that this is nothing new ,how officers can be cruel
    Once in Sindh- tando Bahawal a major in army conspired with local influential and killed more than 12 people . This was telecasted in national media as killing of dacoits for three days.then local media investigated and found that poor farmers were killed due to dispute over land

    Finally that major was hanged after a lot of hue and cry by local civil society

    If some people don’t remember that incident, this is just reminder how officers can be flawed and cruelRecommend

  • Shahzad
    Jun 8, 2011 - 5:08PM

    . Find the courage Mr. Pasha to step down…if you still have some honor and grace left…Recommend

  • habib
    Jun 8, 2011 - 5:09PM

    Thank you for making public actual feelings of Pakistanis, especially second class citizens of Sindh, Baluchisgtan about the much dreaded ISI.Recommend

  • waqqas iftikhar
    Jun 8, 2011 - 5:10PM

    Every one who is gloriously looking back and defending the armed forces….when did they ever win? anything….’48, ’65 (stalemate), ’71 (horrible loss) ’99 (kargil, pretty much a lost cause), and yet you have the gall to come here and defend them – i suggest slashing their budgets, get the rear (sic) admiral outta his customized bling bling bmw….neither they nor the politicians deserve these perks….the problem is, only the ISI are strong, brutal and shadowy enough to actually go ahead and kill…..which they are doing with impunity, just look at whats happening to balochistanRecommend

  • KP
    Jun 8, 2011 - 5:18PM

    Simple, straight forward & courageous. Well done.Recommend

  • Babar Ayaz
    Jun 8, 2011 - 5:36PM

    Dear Ejaz,
    I have no hope that even a “straight-talking” General will hold an internal inquiry and take action against the killers of Saleem as these people protect their colleagues’ out-rageous actions. I have proposed in my article in Daily Times that PML N if it is realy serious should move a bill in the assembly proposing that ISI and Army should be under the parliamentary committees oversight and their funds should also be approved by these committees as it is done some democratic countries. You have also rightly said that they should be under the parliament. But the issue who will bell the cat, when our parliamentarian are made fools by them as they did on May 13?
    Babar AyazRecommend

  • Salman Abbasy
    Jun 8, 2011 - 5:41PM

    Powerful and audacious advocacy of a bold journalist and friend. Do be careful though, these out-of-control ISI goons are known to beat up teenage boys who defeat their sons in sports.Recommend

  • K B Kale
    Jun 8, 2011 - 5:54PM

    Write a new constitution with fundamental rights and relgious equality as the core values. Go for a no war pact with India duly guarnteed by P5 and UNO and gradually trim the armed forcess to the level of paramilitary forces.
    Bravo, Manoj!Recommend

  • pari
    Jun 8, 2011 - 6:03PM

    I appreciate Ijaz Sahib but writing wont help anymore,,,we need a courage to come out on streets like Algerians, Egyptians and protests against the army, corrupt rulers and people. Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 6:32PM

    64 years down the line and Pakistanis still unaware of the meaning of the term ‘national interests’.Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 6:33PM

    Oh and May God be with you Mr Haider!

    This might be accounted as high treason too! National Interests you know.

    Good job!Recommend

  • K B Kale
    Jun 8, 2011 - 6:37PM

    Never forget how the Chief Justice of Pakistan & his friends amongst lawyers community brought down the dictatorship of Musharraf and ‘re-liberated’ Pakistan. Also look at how the dictatorships in Tunisia, Egypt crumbled like cookies when determined people ‘meant business’ & also look at the other Middle-Eastern dictatorships slowly making way to democracy. Rest assured that this will also happen in Iran.
    In today’s information age, dictatorships will not be able to rule for long!Recommend

  • Suresh
    Jun 8, 2011 - 6:38PM

    Common people in India are ignorant about RAW, including many parliamentarian themselves. It is just one of the many government department under home (interior) ministry. It may have freedom in its area of operation, but it is fully answerable to the minister and parliament. It has no connection with defense ministry or military. Mostly, it is a white collar type intelligence think tank exclusively for external threats, instead of an armed, commando type outfit with license to torture and kill.Recommend

    Jun 8, 2011 - 6:44PM

    I congratulate ET and the writer for this bold article which would just tantamount of taking the bull by its horns. This agency has been totally unaccountable to civilian govt and judiciary of the state. Its complicity in hundreds of missing persons in Pakistan and more recently in Mumbai massacre by an American court are damning with far reaching implications. But the million dollar question is that who will control this raging bull ? Recommend

  • K B Kale
    Jun 8, 2011 - 7:21PM

    @Shahid Saeed:
    My dear Saeedbhai,
    For these ‘little educated’ men with an IQ below room temp, ‘national interests’ is defined as ‘the interests of the Top Brass of the Armed Forces’! And they are doing a good job in taking care of such National Interests, aren’t they?
    “Who has given the mandate to these little educated men with IQ level below room temperature to define what ‘national interest’ is?”Recommend

  • call me Pakistani
    Jun 8, 2011 - 7:24PM


    such senior writers also working on the enemy’s agenda to defame ISI and other agencies that protect the nation while the nation remains busy in serving the corruption, as its very basic raw material. You and all such writers and TV anchors should feel ashamed facing your own self in the mirror as you are doing what enemies could not do in decades …. damaging Pakistan’s line of defence. I have seen loads of people accusing ISI of killing saleem shahzad and what not but not one, I REPEAT NOT EVEN ONE, proof of this accusation has been produced.

    I am sure you do feel of your self as a heated brain that represents this society, but its about time you face the ground reality that you’re not authorised for this.

    I am not here to defend ISI but I can very well imagine that they must not have the time to get indulged in any sort of argument with media or journalist since their prime job is to protect the country from all threats …. both foreign and DOMESTIC. Now that’s a job that’s bound to keep ’em real busy

    The nation does not need sensational writing that shows that we’re being destroyed by ISI and army and what-not. rather we need people who have the eye to see all the good aspect of this country as well. I am amazed how all of you writers find it ignorable that this country & its people do so much, but still not even one article appears to promote & motivate it. If you wanna stretch your writing muscles, may be you should look at the figures of what the farmers, indsutrialist and other scientists of this country are doing, without any support of reward. I am sure its bound to motivate many others to join hands in the good work of the country because afterall, its not the media, journalists or anyone else who keeps the country going…. its the common man and all the hard work a common man puts in everyday, and it he who deserves the space and efforts in all the writing columnsRecommend

  • Nissar
    Jun 8, 2011 - 7:38PM

    The only gud that Pakistan can now do is to speed up its own demise and let the people form secular and free dispensations.Recommend

  • K B Kale
    Jun 8, 2011 - 7:51PM

    @Shahid Saeed:
    Agency we can build, if we survive as a nation, which is more important.
    Bravo, Saeed bhai!Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 8:23PM

    Finally, people have started talking about Army and Agencies :)Recommend

  • SaudiRules
    Jun 8, 2011 - 8:52PM

    @asif chauhdary,
    You have spoken like a man who is about to have his gravy-train derailed. Also, looking at the current graduate of “crore commanders” from PMA, one can safely assume that PMA is nothing but a country club.
    OBL was hanging around the kakul PMA for five yrs while PMA students were learning how to play golf, derail an elected government, tapping of peoples phone (or erasing the phone record, like in SS Shehzad) or how to conquer the awam! Recommend

  • Asad Shairani
    Jun 8, 2011 - 9:06PM


  • Obsever from UK
    Jun 8, 2011 - 9:19PM

    There is no dearth of people who believe that military and its vile agencies are sacrosanct and above criticism. Times have changed. People can’t be fooled any more. Accountability must be in place. BTW, I should remind the commentator that it was because of military Pakistan disintegrated into two in 1971. Because of adventurism in Kargil Pakistan had to swallow its pride. The agencies in general and ISI in particular involved them in politics and the result is that innocent civilians had to suffer. Many went missing and many found but dead. The military showed its professional inefficiency in OBL and PNS Mehrsn debacle. Recommend

  • Ali
    Jun 8, 2011 - 9:53PM

    Punch line: get to work…and get to what you are supposed to do, not the opposite…Recommend

  • Hassan Shehzad
    Jun 8, 2011 - 10:05PM

    Ejaz is back. in writing. Recommend

  • Truth Seeker
    Jun 8, 2011 - 10:10PM

    Ejaz Haider has smartly thrown the ‘bell (to) the cat’. Despite being cornered the cat is still agile enough to avoid the bell.
    Kudos to Ejaz for courageous attempt.Recommend

  • Tariq
    Jun 8, 2011 - 10:18PM

    Reality is far more ugliest than writer have shown. Even a uniform solider in Pakistan is not bound by any laws. They get this impression from their superior who are nearly above the any law of the land.

    For controlling such institutions, only honest, lawful and patriotic civilian leadership can made them accountable. Otherwise present and future looks the same.Recommend

  • Savail
    Jun 8, 2011 - 10:34PM

    I take it Mr Uddin that you are bald?@Syed Najam Uddin: Recommend

  • Syed Jamal Masood
    Jun 8, 2011 - 11:23PM

    Ejaz Sb, Excellent writing but I have an objection here that why you have used word “Sir” for a Government Servant?? You are a tax payer and he gets salary from tax payers money therefore he should call you the sir. I think time has come that we should demand accountability and operation clean up within our Security Agencies/Armed Forces. We are law abiding citizens and men in uniforms should also follow the same line. But this is not possible in current Govt set up but inshaAllah it will happen sooner or later. . Recommend

  • Bilal Abbas
    Jun 8, 2011 - 11:25PM

    Although I’m a great fan of your writing and have benefited a lot from it, I’m thoroughly disappointed by your assertion that “I understand the theoretical and practical dimensions of statecraft better and more deeply than your entire agency”.
    Let me remind you an age old maxim, that absolutness and finality of opinion are signs of a small mind. Recommend

  • Jun 8, 2011 - 11:44PM

    promote terrorism in others , and get it back in droves. besides that, i think the isi has to explain itself to pakistan, i feel sorry for the decent and innocent lot in ur country. U have every right to be angry and shocked. I hope it works out and the army /isi is made accountable. His killers must be punished.Recommend

  • Arifq
    Jun 9, 2011 - 12:12AM

    Well said! Finally, truth being told. This Pakistan I can live with, Pakistan defined by ISI is unacceptable.Recommend

  • Baseer Haider Malik
    Jun 9, 2011 - 12:20AM

    I will tend to disagree with the author on many accounts.Firstly how can one claim to be theoratically and practically be the best in understanding of statecraft than the whole agency; we have seen the authors abilities in the talk show he conducts and am sorry but its a shameless claim.Secondly he hasnt done any wonders n shown courage by writing this just went along the direction of the wind as the jounalists have a mindset to put blames and since ISI is on a weaker wicket being the accused so he has shown his bias and wasnt very objective.And if we see beyond we will have clear idea who is behind in damaging the agency and Pakistan so he is serving the purpose of our enemy whether wilfully or ignorantly.Thirdly no reference has been given of the stories Mr sallem did,which made ISI angry enough to kill him .so any sensible person wont write on assumptions,which is the case here. And lastly the people in Khaki are also Pakistanis and they do have families,dnt think them as your enemies for God sake; i have served for 25 years in the Army n believe me it hurts once people think and take men in khakis as their enemies.If the civilians and am talking about our politicians were sincere and able as Mr haider who is better in understanding of the statecraft than the whole ISI then Army wont have ever intervened.Recommend

  • ali
    Jun 9, 2011 - 12:21AM

    courageous journalism,
    reformation is must , kharotabad killings, collateral damage in waziristan, assassinations all over and in balouchistan, mullah military alliance,,,,,
    all this needs definite reformation Recommend

  • Asif Iqbal
    Jun 9, 2011 - 1:18AM

    Brilliant as always. But if I am not wrong than Ijaz is one of those scholars,who till very recently thought army’s role in politics as ‘given’.so, first congrates to Ejaz for this ‘paradigm shift’ in his own thinking.As for a ‘strategic rethinking’ in army’s mindset,if Arab spring is anything to go by, than we have our job cut out for us,because it is not just the matter of mindset but deeply entrenched vested interests. They are not going to give in easily. Recommend

  • imtiaz khan
    Jun 9, 2011 - 1:53AM

    Mr Ejaz Haider ! Of course very touchy and emotional write-up.
    Without defending ISI, I too have question for you.
    Have you (and those TV anchors) ever thought that what are the desires of the ‘enemies’ of the Pakistan?
    Humbly suggest that do not align with their desires. This option is certainly more dangerous as it is said “pen is mightier than sword.”
    The damage done by such articles in the society may be uncontrollable.
    Actually to put the state institutions under proper check and balance you need honest leadership at the top. Therefore, why to blame state institutions directly once representatives are in the Assemblies and Senate? I think here lies the problem…
    And do not undermine the sacrifices of hundreds of the Shuhdaas who laid their valuable lives for our ‘MOTHERLAND’Recommend

  • khubiab
    Jun 9, 2011 - 2:36AM

    I think the intellect of this article is way too high for a “Pak Army General” to understand.

    Anyway Hats Off to Mr. Ijaz Haider to speak it out so loud and clear. i think whole nation will understand and agree except army.Recommend

  • Mazari
    Jun 9, 2011 - 2:41AM

    Daring job, though I doubt if the General has got the brains to decipher the later half of his letter. I doubt if the whole lousy lot of our Generals and Admirals and Air Commodores would be able to understand what the guy is talking about even if they join their brainless heads together.Recommend

  • Shahid Saeed
    Jun 9, 2011 - 2:59AM

    @Baseer Haider Malik

    Please stop joking, SERVED for 25 years in army is a cruel joke, you RULED for 25 years. It is long time and you must have been a part of crimes committed against people and democracy by military rule. We hate those we take away our right to choose leaders(even incompetent), our right to choose friends and enemies and our right to choose laws which will be acceptable for a pluralistic society.

    Please let us know how many plots you have acquired, in which areas and what is market price of that property in present market? How is overseas property market and what is your highest score in Golf. Recommend

  • Zareen
    Jun 9, 2011 - 3:47AM

    Bravo!! Please courier the letter to Mr. Pasha. May be his conscience will wake up!! Hoping and hoping… Recommend

  • JM
    Jun 9, 2011 - 3:52AM

    Well said Sir,Keep it up!I totally agree with the contents & questions raised about ISI.God Bless you.Recommend

  • Moshin Ali Khan
    Jun 9, 2011 - 5:07AM

    we all learnt this from media he was threatened by ISI and even may be killed but we did not ever mentioned those powers active in our country pushing the country in to turmoil, disbelieve and mistrust on our institutions. it is well said that media is a fools tool it can convince us on whatever it want. Once Sonia Gandhi said India do not need to invade us because they already have invaded us culturally. The emotional Pakistani nation and media is just a small glimpse of that culture.Recommend

  • Dr.A.K.Tewari
    Jun 9, 2011 - 6:59AM

    Well .a Drone attack on Pasha .Recommend

  • Jun 9, 2011 - 7:19AM

    The military-ISI combine has no business defining Pakistan’s interest. That is our job and we, the civilians, will do it through our representatives. Your job is to implement, not formulate, policies.

    This is something that the people of Pakistan must say to themselves over and over again… and then to the Khakis….. Thank you Ejaz Haider, for saying it like it should be said…. stay safe!Recommend

  • Raza
    Jun 9, 2011 - 8:22AM

    If there is anything called revolution in Pakistan, It will be brought about by media. I salute you Ejaz sahab for speaking out the truth! I admire the way you have so eloquently articulated the voice of Pakistani people.Recommend

  • WhatsInAName
    Jun 9, 2011 - 8:57AM

    ISI and Army are the only intact institutions of Pakistan which we can be proud of. The enemies of Pakistan today are currently maligning and targeting only these two institutions.

    We must be careful with our word selection when we want accountability.

    Allah knows best, He knows ALL, He listens ALL

    Long Live Pakistan!!!Recommend

  • azhar saleem
    Jun 9, 2011 - 9:05AM

    you are genius, the best column i had ever read. i salute you correctly point out our national problem, the strength of strategic depth lies on confidence and good economic situation not to rely on militants.Recommend

  • Pasha
    Jun 9, 2011 - 9:24AM

    Why is everybody blaming Pasha and ISI. It is the best service ever. They are succeeding in their plan to fool westerners and Afghans by forcing them to befriend Taliban. Once USA is out and our Talibani brothers are in, we would dictate terms in Afghanistan Inshaallah. Then we would teach the infidel India a lesson it will never forget. This is just bad time and we will have to endure the little loss of our own people bleeding for a while, but in long run we will bleed India and Hindus. Doesn’t this prospect salivate you ? It does to me. Isn’t that all we thrive for ? No matter whether we are better technically, industry wise or economy wise, we will be glad if we can kill thousands or millions of the kafurs Indians. Our whole dream, aim, strategy of life, weapons, arsenal and everything should be directed towards India. And Inshallah my brothers the day will come that even we had to eat grass for rest of our life , India will be doomed and our dreams be realised. Pray with me and join hands and support ISI and Pasha and our pious Lashkar and army whole act of killing innocent citizens is just a call of duty and pious in HIS ALMIGHTY’S EYES. Cause they are only killing Kafurs and Mohjahirs. Recommend

    Jun 9, 2011 - 10:03AM

    Ejaz Sb

    What do you do? Who is your employer?
    What have you done for this country?
    Now the Iran President has said “US is after nukes of PAK”
    Which is very true. I believe you would agree.
    do you know its only ISI that PAK is breathing yet.
    So please no need to be emotionial and Bold.
    If you cant do something right, dont do wrong. stop blaming.
    Live or Leave Pakistan

    Author: HAMID, IslamabadRecommend

    Jun 9, 2011 - 10:17AM

    @Obsever from UK:
    Dear Friend
    Bangladesh was never ours. They refused to have mother language as URDU. They refused in many aspects. Yes. it was military. I agree. Kargil? yes it was Military. But remember it was your politicain Nawaz Shareef who went to America. Then things changed. If you believe that it was OBL, I feel highly sorry for you. extremely feel sorry for you. If our political structure woudl have been strong. ISI would have stood up and said its all DRAMA. PNS MEHRAN. remember, This is the ratio. Pak VS US, India, Isreal and many more. So its one against many. It is ISI strenght, that they are fighting against so many enemies. Friend besides. you are living in UK. What is there for you in Pakistan.
    Leave us alone. With all due respect, Do not INTERVENE.Recommend

  • Jun 9, 2011 - 10:46AM

    @Independent from UK:

    I don’t speak for generals and I need not to. When you speak its truth but when I give my point of view, I am stepping on your tail. What a joke? Click on my name and you will find my blog, so I am not “whosoever you are” better if you have said it for yourself Mr Nameless Independent from UK. Its not a discussion going on here rather posting of views so tolerate or move on sirRecommend

    Jun 9, 2011 - 10:53AM

    @imtiaz khan:
    The corrupt leaders would only retard the progress of the country and fatten their bank balances but Shahzad was un-earthening an extremely serious matter about Pakistan armed forces being inflirtated by the militants and its catastrophic effects on the country. This malignancy will not go by murdering the journalists on line of their duty but by cleansing the three wings of defence forces of these sinster elements, otherwise dis-integeration of Pakistan is not far away. Recommend

  • Jun 9, 2011 - 12:04PM

    How a “SIR” be answerable to me?? :P

    You, sir, are therefore a servant twice over, as are all your officers and other personnel. You are answerable to our representatives and those representatives are answerable to us.

    Kia ye Khula (open) tazaad (letter) nai??Recommend

  • Masood Khattak
    Jun 9, 2011 - 12:49PM

    Dear Ijaz

    Your letter shows that still there are few people in Pakistan who have courage to speak truth and raise their voice against atrocious policies of establishment. Your article gives us hope that we are still alive not DEAD….wish u best of luck…Recommend

  • ashok sai
    Jun 9, 2011 - 1:57PM

    @ Author

    Few of our Indian papers are highlighting your courageous article, I think you have become center of topic.

    Considering the party involved, I sincerely hope your next article’s title won’t be,

    “Ejaz ka khuda hafiz’.Recommend

  • Arslan Qadeer
    Jun 9, 2011 - 2:20PM

    sorry for being a little agressive but your article though frought with sort of ‘mastery of words’ has failed to impress me a bit.I remember when I was a class 10th student back in 1984, the biggest shortcut to become famous and to get oneself recognized as real time intellectual, a ‘Taraqqi Pasand’ and to excell in one’s field was to put on the red cap of communism, and to start abusing Gen Zia for everything going bad under the sun. This would fetch them the required degree of being a great thinker of the time. I knew everybody did that. Today since we donot have communism any more we have invented ISI and our own Army for this purpose. But Mr Ejaz you are going in the right direction.It is unfortunate that so many people have penned down their comments eulogizing Mr Ejaz on his command on English language bravery, but how myopic these my friends are. If this is the intellectual level of our educated class then sorry to say, in the words of Mr Aradsher Cowasjee that we are an intellectually starved society. The reply to to Mr Ejaz’s assertion that he knows better statecraft is that he should concentrate on his own work and let others do theirs. I am neither from ISI nor from any govt department but I know for sure that our Army and ISI are not our enemies.Not everyone out there at the helm of affairs traitors as we usually think.I have the audacity to say that if not all most of them are very concerned Nationalists, loyal Pakistanis. And this I am saying on the basis of my persoanal observation. If someone wants me to I am prepare to write a complete book on this. I am a low middle class – someone who always finds difficult to meet both ends. But does it mean that I should start malighning everyone. I think it is by time when we should get over with these age old tactics to become famous and rich overnight. ArslanRecommend

  • Naveed Khan
    Jun 9, 2011 - 2:25PM

    Conscious and accountability starts from yourself, heart and mind. If General Pasha was so conscious and accountable and ALIVE, he should not have consulted his family or any one or even presented himself to our incumbent national assembly but would have resigned as it was his personal failure and if it was not then he should be courageous enough to reveal all the names of those responsible. He is as dead as all the other leaders of Pakistan.Recommend

  • Jun 9, 2011 - 2:34PM

    @Masood Khattak:

    Masood Khattak? Sir you mean Masood Sharif Khattak? Nice to know Recommend

  • hater
    Jun 9, 2011 - 3:12PM

    put everything on ISI. Real MatureRecommend

  • faisal
    Jun 9, 2011 - 3:37PM

    Ejaz, I was a colleague of yours at frontier post long long ago. Your article is incisive and portrays eloquently whats on the mind of many. You make us proud.. keep writingRecommend

  • Darvesh Ali
    Jun 9, 2011 - 4:51PM

    Very well written piece of work. These are thoughts of almost each Pakistani. Recommend

  • Akram
    Jun 9, 2011 - 4:53PM

    Gen. Pasha, I hope you take this in the positive light that it was intended with and understand Mr.Haider’s sincerity towards Pakistan and the value of every human life.Recommend

  • Jun 9, 2011 - 5:02PM

    “You, sir, are therefore a servant twice over, as are all your officers and other personnel. You are answerable to our representatives and those representatives are answerable to us.”

    While I agree with the piece and especially this statement, the day they realise this is the day pigs flyRecommend

  • observer
    Jun 9, 2011 - 7:36PM

    @Hamid (perhaps Zaid too)

    I believe you would agree.
    do you know its only ISI that PAK is breathing yet.

    Well let me see,

    Bangladesh— No ISI- Breathing? Yes, you bet.

    Nepal—–No ISI- Breathing? Yes, you bet.

    Sri Lanka- —– Ditto—

    Maldives ———Do—-

    And so on and so forth.

    ISI, a neccessary condition for ‘breathing’? Nope.Recommend

  • peace of mind meditation
    Jun 9, 2011 - 10:53PM

    the ISI has been a major failure. It has witnessed a number of attacks on its own offices in Pakistan and terrorist attacks on many targets, the latest being the one on a major naval aviation base near Karachi. The truth is that the ISI’s reputation was built on the many successful operations it carried out in/against India.
    But these attacks could only be carried out because the ISI had a huge support base in India

    In the air war, technology is far more important and with its Sukhoi 30 MKI, India has a clear superiority.

    *missile shield* Endo-Atmospheric Interceptor

    BILL 2 (Sweden) and SPIKE (Israel) anti tank missilesRecommend

  • journalist
    Jun 10, 2011 - 12:25AM

    Mohammad Tayyab , who has commented earlier is not an an ordinary man. he is writing for ISI. this is ISI speaking for itself.Recommend

  • Yousafzai
    Jun 10, 2011 - 12:45AM

    Jumping to conclusion……is that what statecraft teaches. While gruesome killing of Saleem Shahzad is highly deplorable, Ejaz Haider is trying to use the incident for self aggrandizement and self projection. Implicating national institutions without concrete evidence demonstrate that the writer is dancing to the tune of his master (CIA). Morality demands that if he has enough evidence he should testify before the court, that actually will be solidarity with the family of the slain journalist. How could the writer claim to “understand the theoretical and practical dimensions of statecraft better and more deeply than your entire agency.” The piece appears to be full of vengeance and venom Recommend

  • Farzana
    Jun 10, 2011 - 2:38AM

    We can eat grass as long as we have an atom bomb
    We will have ISI even if they give us nightmares
    We have the biggest army but they only want to play politics
    We have lost half our country and handed the other half to our army
    We have millions of poor but our army lives like kings
    Does this make any sense?Recommend

  • Pragmatist
    Jun 10, 2011 - 6:28AM

    No institution however important should be beyond accountability. Pakistan’s establishment have been running their own parallel economy and governance for the best part of 65 years and this is what you get. They are brutalizing the very system they are supposed to protect. In a true democracy, the military and intelligence would come under the control of the elected government but in Pakistan you only have a sham democracy.Recommend

  • Danish Kamal
    Jun 10, 2011 - 7:53AM

    thanks for your voice. we are with youRecommend

  • hanya
    Jun 10, 2011 - 10:04AM

    “I would expect that you would do everything to prove that Saleem was not murdered by the ISI”

    How the heck do you prove a negative??? Provide alibis (independently corroborated) for each and every ISI agent?

    Does not make sense. Arent the ISI innocent till proved guilty? Why should the rule of law not apply to them??Recommend

  • Naveed
    Jun 10, 2011 - 10:10AM

    I wish if other journalists also have this courage like Ijaz Haider to write against this dreaded institution. First I doubt if Ijaz Haider termed Gen. Pasha a straight talking soldier, who will act fairly. A man who got twice extension and not ready to leave unless through away.
    Secondly, Ijaz Haider should also right an open letter to Chief justice to draw his attention towards Saleem Shahzad’s case because he is too busy in Atiqa Odho’s case. . Recommend

  • Umar
    Jun 10, 2011 - 1:54PM

    Very brave, about time someone confronts intelligence agencies. Recommend

  • arif
    Jun 10, 2011 - 3:23PM

    Neither do I support the Army Neither do I support the media. Both of them have their own interests. Sometimes army gets out of hand and sometimes its the media.Recommend

  • Bilal
    Jun 10, 2011 - 4:47PM

    Our main problem is that Pakistan has totally become an nonfunctional state…Nonfunctional state creates various power centers within itself… these power centers supports their own mind set, right or wrong, whatever it is… and the end result is a complete destruction of harmony, strength, rule of law, nationalism, institutions and Justice,etc.. in a society.

    These Power centers are now challenging state and writ of our state. Components of our state are in total mess in our country. Apart from our four main state components, the role of these power centers should be minimized to reach at the better solution. Recommend

  • Jun 10, 2011 - 5:44PM

    Though the contents of the letter are logical and supported with fine reasoning but even then I have another point of view. Pakistan is at War with most treacherous Enemy. I mean Alqaeda and Taliban. They have successfully used media to confuse the nation. Lal masjid was an invasion on Pakistan but they have made them Heros, They Kill people in thousands in Mosques, Shrines and in the city centers but nobody picks fingers at them but blame USA. They have won over the nation in their war against USA. As they kill more and more so the nation gets killed and blame USA. Alqaeda and taliban are against every organized force and when USA and Pakistan forces will be out of the areas where Al Qaeda and their Allies operate they will then start exporting their brand of Islam to other Areas.. They have already taken the Pakistani Society Morally and now every Mulla is the ruler and uses his power with out discretion. They kill Governor and the nation throws flowers at the Killers. They Kill Ministers. So because of that any body who lives in Grey Area is the Public enemy and thus should be treated as collateral damage. Why people do not work on the assumption that Saleem Shahzad was killed by Taliban to discredit ISI? In Uzbekistan we are not hyper in Politics and Thus Tashkent remains the most peaceful city. What we have got with free Media? Public nothing. But Hamid Mir and others like him have become Rich. Khalil Ur Rehman is the most powerful person which he uses to be come more richer. Many may talk bad of Islam Karimov but atleast Uzbekistan is Progressing at 10% and Tashkent citizens are most grateful.Recommend

  • ghazni
    Jun 10, 2011 - 7:14PM

    Please take care of yourself, you may not fall victim to their wrath. Agencies have to surrender before us. Recommend

  • BS
    Jun 10, 2011 - 7:27PM

    should have been addressed to Gen. KiyaniRecommend

  • Isloo Watcher
    Jun 10, 2011 - 11:15PM

    Very well done Ejaz sb !!! U r doing de same which our enemies are trying to achieve, i.e targeting own security establishments(knowing dat its our center of gravity) and creating doubts in the innocent minds of common people. I would appreciate if you will come up with some solid proofs next time :) Recommend

  • Asia Siddiqui
    Jun 11, 2011 - 1:13AM

    Dude, Ejaz Haider is being sarcastic. Its grim humor. “if I laugh at any mortal this, tis that I dont cry” (paraphrasing Byron)Recommend

  • asif
    Jun 11, 2011 - 12:47PM

    May ALLAH give you courage to write more like this as you have written this one. Recommend

  • Arsalan
    Jun 12, 2011 - 3:05AM

    It is a fashion now —- Lets bash Army and ISI.

    Proof or no proof….. Perpetual accusation after accusations.

    Since the victim is journalist so he belongs to powerful group and needs a powerful killer as well. what a logic ?

    Most of us including this writer are tools in the hands of enemy of Pakistan.

    With no proof he is accusing premier Int Agency of Pakistan.

    Have some sense…..and balance……….plz….. and do not dismantle Pakistan Recommend

  • K B Kale
    Jun 12, 2011 - 3:35AM

    Dear Mr Ejaz Haidersahab,
    Congratulations on hitting a double century! A new record?
    Also about 90% people support your opinion.
    Good going.
    Keep writing & take care of your safety.
    K B Kale, Jakarta (currently on a brief visit to USA)Recommend

  • Dr.tanwir Ahmad
    Jun 12, 2011 - 5:39AM

    I was in Iran durng the revolution.I saw poeple attacking Savac office in Rasht.The savakis were dragged out of the office and executed by them in Bagh-i-Mohtashim,the main park of the city.These days are near for Pakistani intelligence agencies.Recommend

  • Dr.tanwir Ahmad
    Jun 12, 2011 - 5:47AM

    I was in Iran during the revolution.In Rasht ,a northeren city,I saw poeple dragginging the SAVAK employees from their office and executed in Baghi-Mohtashim (the central park of the city).These day are near for the Pakistani intel. agenciesRecommend

  • Danish Kamal
    Jun 12, 2011 - 5:15PM

    Its better to address Human Rights Commissions, UN, IMF, EU, USA to subject the aid to stop violence of security forces against innocent people. I do not think the addressee are right people. They are the part of the policy and they cannot go beyond the policies of their organizations. Recommend

  • M.T.Soomro
    Jun 12, 2011 - 10:49PM

    I congratulate Ejaz for writing this daring letter. I would like to raise the issue of our great Civilian representatives who sit in the Senate and Assemblies. They have been elected by the most oppressed subservients in their electorates. All these feudal lords, zamindars, sardars, pirs etc etc are in the Houses for their own interests. If they were straight, dedicated and understood the sufferings of the nation, No Simon agencies could dare turn their guns against the people. They know little about the human beings they represent or else their subjects would not have to suffer..Recommend

  • bilal
    Jun 13, 2011 - 2:39AM

    very courageously written.. much appreciated sir.. rule of law must prevailRecommend

    Jun 13, 2011 - 3:59AM

    To me he is thinking like the journalist, who threw shoe on BUSH. It is all hearsay, no investigation, no hard fact, just conjectures. The subject doesn’t warrant applause fron so many readers.. He must write open letter on issues like

    Suggesting to isolate non Pakistani ( Foreign) terrorist in Northern Area.
    Measures to distant from all Waring groups in North of Pakistan.
    Measures to put biomatric on Pak afghan border to regulate cross border traffic..
    Suggesting to move as quickly as possible in the folds of China as strategic partners.

    5..Expose better picture of Pakistan, hide the filth, in an effort to suggesting ways to improve.

    6.ANYBODY CAN BASH ANYBODY, good writers, dont bash, they propose, what to do in open letters. Those recommendation must be based on the theme, to make Pakistan Safe for investment and tourism
    Take care.
    You have a good day

  • Marya
    Jun 13, 2011 - 10:51AM


    Reading this article gave me goosebumps and tears. Forgive me for saying this, but tears of joy. To see, some people still have it in them to speak the truth without fear! standing ovation for your courage!Recommend

  • Jun 13, 2011 - 11:52AM

    Well said but unfortunately the writer is settling some old vendetta sir.Recommend

    Jun 13, 2011 - 1:59PM

    Ejaz sahib is right that ISI should come up with official and rational reply to all the questions pointed to shahzad murder.

    This will make our central agency strong and not weak.

    It is unfortunate that Army and ISI officials still think that silence on matters like Shahzad murder will not hurt the crediblity of our institutions. Pakistan is changing, people are now demanding their basic rights. Army and ISI please change your attitude towards media and civil society before it gets too late…Recommend

  • Shahbaz
    Jun 13, 2011 - 2:48PM

    Well, it is a well written article in good english but without considering over geopolitical situation now Pakistan is. Will the writer consider to write on the role and conduct of CIA, RAW, Mosad etc internally and internationally.

    Notwithstanding what happened, can you accuse some based on some past incidents and so called acceptance of some ex officials. If they were not trusted earlier how they could be trusted now.

    If we read between the lines, this article serves the purpose of the enemies of Pakistan and although writers is in a strategic institute, very learned, but appears to be an American in mind and not Pakistani.

    Please do not serve the purpose of enemies, like Asma Jehangir, who reportedly submit a report that Indian troops have not committed any violence in Kashmir and her comments recently. Pl do not disgrace yourself to the level of Nazir Naji and Najam Sethi, gutless b- – – – – -s. You belong to intelegencia and we expect not a layman emotional response from you. Pl write again in overall context.

    We feel sorry for Shahzad.Recommend

  • K B Kale
    Jun 13, 2011 - 5:18PM

    I would like to mention here a sentence from the book “R-Document” for those who are mixing between Security & Freedom and rooting for the Army/ISI.
    The sentence says, “Those who compromise freedom for their security end up losing both!
    So my Pakistani friends, it is time to wake up!Recommend

  • Lie Buster
    Jun 13, 2011 - 9:14PM

    Dear Ejaz Sb,

    Wow !!!!! What an article to write. While you may believe that your so called open letter to Gen Pasha is a brave effort, I fail to understand some obvious flaws in your assertions.
    If you have a bit of moral courage then please do reply them in another open letter.
    firstly if Pakistan is so called Police and Intelligence agency run state then do you think people like you could have written such open letters full of assumptions. We have seen Police states like Stalinist Russia or Gestapo run Germany. Trust me in true Police and Intelligence run states no dog is allowed to bark.Even in Ayub and Zia regimes such openess was not allowed. So I don’t agree that ISI is running the country.
    Secondly , what makes you so sure that ISI killed that honorable Gentleman.
    What are the basis of this confident assumption that you hold Gen Pasha accountable.
    Were you there? Did you positively identify the killers as ISI guys???
    Were the killers wearing sweat shirts with ISI written at their fronts and backs.
    If ISI is so good as you have asserted in your article then do you think they will leave tracks so obvious that amateurs like you can untangle it in few days????

    Please do reply ….
    I will be waiting.


    Lie BusterRecommend

  • ACE
    Jun 14, 2011 - 7:05AM

    Bold articulation, yet a fundamental omission. Till proved by court of law jumping to conclusion is a fatal virtue which we embrace with eyes closed and open arms. Recommend

  • Jun 14, 2011 - 9:37AM

    @Arslan Qadeer:

    [I remember when I was a class 10th student back in 1984, the biggest shortcut to become famous and to get oneself recognized as real time intellectual, a ‘Taraqqi Pasand’ and to excell in one’s field was to put on the red cap of communism, and to start abusing Gen Zia for everything going bad under the sun.]

    Arslan Sahib, a perfect hit inthe ‘Butt’ or Ijaz’s Butt (oh not cricket wala)Recommend

  • Shahbaz
    Jun 14, 2011 - 11:12AM

    Out of context. I agree with TayyebRecommend

  • Jalil
    Jun 14, 2011 - 12:34PM

    I really appriciate the commendable boldness in this difficult time when there is chance of retribution by the hooligans. Only journalists like you, Syed Saleem Shazad and others willing to sacrifice their lives will possibly help bring change. Also please write on the loot of national resources for the benifit of few in the name of national defense. Recommend

  • jalil
    Jun 14, 2011 - 12:43PM

    @Babur Chughtai:
    I could not get it as to how the letter was a confused statement. If for instance it is an alligation why it is not being confronted. Recommend

  • Jun 14, 2011 - 1:21PM


    But sir when you have vendetta or “Allah waastay ka baer”, then its naturalRecommend

  • Taj Iqbal
    Jun 14, 2011 - 8:43PM

    Dear Sir
    I liked your open letter. I especially liked the comment “I understand the theoretical and practical dimensions of statecraft better and more deeply than your entire agency.” Great claim sir but I am not amazed. Your academic moorings and where your bread comes from makes it abundantly clear as to who is putting the words in your mouth. Question is sir, why dont you ask Rehman Malik about the murderers of Salim Shehzad? After all he is the civilian boss of all internal affairs.
    Bigotry and double standards of so called western democracies are nothing new or surprising to us and it is natural for like of you to to be loyal to your masters.
    Well done sir!!Recommend

  • Saad
    Jun 15, 2011 - 12:38AM

    Mr. Ejaz Haider good piece of writing and brilliant ideas but would u like to elaborate and tell me and other people that what actually Saleem Shahzad was doing?

    What book was he writing and releasing in which what kind of things were investigated and told to people of world. I myself and many other people need to to know that as we might wonder why some agency required to kill the innocent journalist. And what were the sources of his income was that really his own media because the kind of things he was writing against the country i just wonder why he was doing any such act.

    I don’t justify any ones act but i’m just as suspicious about Saleem Shahzad’s actions as that of any agency or ISI (if involved). Please tell us full story not half truth and if u have some piece of his writing u can share that also. Recommend

  • paki
    Jun 15, 2011 - 12:44PM

    Wow,superb piece of writing!!Recommend

  • Sher Ghazi
    Jun 16, 2011 - 1:53AM

    USA also wants that ISI should weak then they will operate easily in our country.Why Pakistani Media got 50billion US dollars from pentagon? any counts about that? Why every sunday night Pakistani Journalist visit US embassy.everyone saw that pictures where our so-called big fishes of media participated in alcoholic parties in the mid-nights.Ask Asma, Bukhari and some others,? That was the agenda to crash down ISI? Why media not speaks against MQM and his Ammunition depot at Nine zero. why Pakistani media show off the names of Wali baber killers, Already zulfiqar mirza mentioned the names of walibaber? If ISI put his hands-up, at that day Pakistan will crash n down fall…Recommend

  • K B Kale
    Jun 16, 2011 - 2:39AM

    Saad sahab,
    You should try & understand the difference between one’s loyalty to his/her country & (blind) loyalty to some of its institutions which themselves may not be loyal to their country but busy in creating their own fiefdoms & stashing money in their personal accounts.
    He was writing against the country i just wonder why he was doing any such act.Recommend

  • Dr muhammad hussain naqvi
    Jun 16, 2011 - 7:29PM

    Mr.pasha . . .i would love to see u resign. . .u r son of a primary teacher. . .at least u should have this much courage.Recommend

  • Asma Ali
    Jun 17, 2011 - 12:21AM

    I am sorry to read this article very late ,but I dont want to withheld my appriciation for this piece of writing. it is very brave and articulated one.Recommend

  • MilitaryInc.
    Jun 19, 2011 - 4:56PM

    Bravado, for challenging the unchallenged, telling them where they belong and reminding them their Job. Their Job, to freeze on the heights of Siachen, burn in the heat of Cholistan, face the enemy(which luckily, Pakistan has none) except for “Men At Their Best”. Defining Policy is ourjob through our Reps, their’s is to implement,very well said. Mr Haider, May God protect you from these….(I got no good words for them)Recommend

  • Pundit
    Jun 24, 2011 - 3:52PM

    Respected Air,

    Today u hv proven that that even in Pakistan the Pen is mightier than the sword.

    May God give u strength
    ( from aindian)Recommend

  • K B Kale
    Jun 24, 2011 - 10:02PM

    But Musharraf, in his recent article to CNN, says that though he was the President of Pakistan in 2006 when Bin Laden came to live in Abbottabad, he also didn’t know! So when a General-and-President rolled into one can talk like that, why not others? Does Musharraf think anybody will believe this cock-and-bull story? Was he the top rogue element in Pakistan Army, the “capo de tutti capi”?
    I think Musharraf is dreaming a comeback thanks to atrocious performance of the Zardari-Gilani team! They were totally exposed by their absence in the post-flood era when their country needed them most.Recommend

  • asap
    Jun 26, 2011 - 11:51PM

    I dont understand the motive except it is part that well orchestrated smear campaign in American media. Our journalists lack disretion and they are suffering from foot in mouth disease. The guy is dead no one knows who did it and what were circumstances of his death. But our journalists have already decided who was responsible and passed the guilty verdict. It only happens in Pakistan.Recommend

  • Syed M. Khurshid
    Jul 7, 2011 - 12:57AM

    Great article. Objective and professionally done.

    Keep up the pressure this is a turning point in the fight to keep this imagined community together. This land has seen 5000 years of civilization, so I don’t care if this 60 year old federation does not survive, I am sure we will continue to thrive albeit as smaller nations. It will be a take away some economies of scale but we are better off as smaller imagined communities drawn on linguistic lines than an imagined uniform religion that has left us with no identity.

    You, Bibi of Human rights, Cyril and other like minded media folks need to coordinate your efforts in educating and boosting the morale of the public. The judiciary is working now, we need to leverage this opportunity to awaken the media and we can change the legislative and the executive leg in the next election.

    Btw, I agree with you, mr.10percent f* us over. Recommend

  • Syed M. Khurshid
    Jul 7, 2011 - 1:07AM

    I agree. They don’t want to save this country. @Omer:
    Great article. Objective and professionally done.

    Keep up the pressure this is a turning point in the fight to keep this imagined community together. This land has seen 5000 years of civilization, so I don’t care if this 60 year old federation does not survive, I am sure we will continue to thrive albeit as smaller nations. It will be a take away some economies of scale but we are better off as smaller imagined communities drawn on linguistic lines than an imagined uniform religion that has left us with no identity.

    You, Bibi of Human rights, Cyril and other like minded media folks need to coordinate your efforts in educating and boosting the morale of the public. The judiciary is working now, we need to leverage this opportunity to awaken the media and we can change the legislative and the executive leg in the next election.

    Btw, I agree with you, mr.10percent f* us over. Recommend

  • Zunera Rais
    Jul 7, 2011 - 3:15PM

    You are making false accusation in any case since you have no proof to support what you are saying. If however, the ISI is doing anything for the safety of the country, I support it. the media should start making a distinction between what is the matter of national security and what can be dragged on in the media. And if you do not have the common sense to do it, then I think ISI should handle it, because that is what it is supposed to do….protect national interest!Recommend

  • Zulqarnain Haider
    Jul 12, 2011 - 1:25AM

    brave words used by u sir. I salute ur courage. May Allah give us relief from this extremist control less agency and their nation enemy policies. God bless u….Also CC to kiyani


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