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WikiLeaks: Solving Kashmir dispute will end Pakistan's support to terrorists

The cable emphasized on US reassessing its policies towards India.

Express May 29, 2011

Pakistan’s support of terrorist groups working in Afghanistan and Kashmir is to maintain balance with India, according to a recently released WikiLeaks cable.

The WikiLeaks cable (reference no. 226531), which was released on 23 September 2009, revealed that Pakistan fears an India-friendly government in Afghanistan will give India an opportunity to operate against Pakistan from Afghanistan.

According to the cable, solving Kashmir dispute will dramatically improve the situation. The cable emphasized on US reassessing its policies towards India.

We need to reassess Indian involvement in Afghanistan and our own policies towards India, including the growing military relationship through sizable conventional arms sales, as all of this feeds Pakistani establishment paranoia and pushes them closer to both Afghan and Kashmir-focused terrorist groups while reinforcing doubts about U.S. intentions.

Cable Referenced: WikiLeaks no. 226531

The full text of the cables can be read on Dawn.com, The Hinduand NDTV. WikiLeaks has previously released cables to other media organisations including Guardian and the New York Times.

COMMENTS (33)

Who cares | 13 years ago | Reply Conclusion: India should hence hand over Kashmir and vouch for eternal peace in South Asia :)

mussarat | 13 years ago | Reply Let's again wait for the bleak era of General (retired) Musharraf, a "master-double game player" when, according to him, the Kashmir issue had almost reached threshold of solution. It was the nothing but the matter of immediate future, I heard general Musharraf often boasting before his friends, whenever he was under the seizures of "over-consumption". According to him, If he got some more chance to rule country, the core issue of Kashmir would have resolved by now. Very straight and very fair, the occupied Kashmir and some other parts of Pakistan including Laddakh and some remote areas of Baltistan would have gone to India to achieve and realise the concept of "Akhand Bharat" without firing a single bullet from the either side. Musharraf should be ashamed, the same India also denied him visa after he was kicked out of the power. Mussarat

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ghairatmand | 13 years ago | Reply @Naveed: And by self determinition of Kahsmiris you also mean the Hindu Pundits who were systematically drove out of valley since past three decades, right ? And you also mean the Pakistan Occupied Kashmir correct ? And the voice of Kashmir being Geelani, it is easy to mis led Kashmiris to join Pakistan, which will happily let China to create base, and India is a definite moron to allow that ? Am I getting you right here sir ? The Britishers who could not digest their loss of Indian sub continent made sure that they leave the region in flames for generations to come. The partition was their gift and final strike of divide and rule policy. The way the partition was done is itself a joke. Anyway coming back to history lesson, please do your own research outside of Pakistani media on who first tried to forcefully annex Kashmir. It was Jinnah's mis-calculated adventurism to break the treaty according to which neither Pakistan nor India will try to forcefully occupy any princely state, thereby dropping Kashmir apple on Indian's lap. Always remind yourself when you argue that the during the partition it was decided that annexing of territory would depend upon the will of the "king" ruling it and not the people. It was Kashmiri prince who signed to annex Kashmir to India a part of which is still occupied by Pakistan. Pakistan broke a rule when it tried to capture Kashmir. Hyderabad was but natural outcome of the broken treaty. So my dear friend please for god sake atleast get your facts straight then you will be far capable to put a strong argument. Right now you are just arguing emotionally and that's the fact.

Thinking | 13 years ago | Reply This is sad. So terrorism is right now used to be a wedge on the Kashmir issue but then what next? You cannot negotiate with terrorists. You must destroy them in the way the Sri Lankan army did.

Ashok | 13 years ago | Reply @Naveed, Yes Pakistan has altered the demographics on a massive scale, especially since a nationalist movement raged on in Gilgit Baltistan and the Kurram Valley right after the Shah left Iran. Pakistan launched a military operation in GB, which ultimately resulted in Zia's pilot (who was from the area) taking revenge on him by downing the plane. Can you explain how India has been "trying to change the demographics" when India has made it into law that no non Kashmiris can buy property in Kashmir? Kashmir's history did not start in 1947 either. Yasin Malik is a pahari/punjabi speaking muslim (a non Kashmiri). Syed Ali Shah Geelani's ancestors came from Gilan, Iran, not Kashmir. Mirwaiz Umar Farooq's ancestors came from Hamedan, Iran, not Kashmir. However, several brahmin families throughout India can trace their ancestry back to Kashmir, not elsewhere. Those families left during the advent of Turkic conquest throughout Central Asia, out of which, native Iranian's lost the most land.

Malay | 13 years ago | Reply "...will end Pkistan's support to terrorist" Then the bosses are out of business, that can't be true.

AD | 13 years ago | Reply WikiLeaks: Solving Kashmir dispute will end Pakistan's support to terrorists and ..Jehad?

Naveed | 13 years ago | Reply Pakistan has altered the demographics?........its India who has been trying to change the demographics in the Kashmir region for last six decades but has not been successful in strangulating the voice of independence from the region...if the plebiscite does not hold ground anymore...or Pakistan cannot bargain on Kashmir by employing state terrorism, it does not at all mean that the people of Kashmir wants to live with India.....their right of self determination would still be there as valid as ever.....even if they dont want to accede to Pakistan.....let it an independent state....we, Pakistanis wont have a problem with that. fancy vocab wont change the facts. someone talked about Hyderabad Deccan.......check the history bro ....you are the usurpers....

TonySingh | 13 years ago | Reply Given the logic in wikileaks, its incentive for the Indians not to resolve issues with Pakistan. Then the terrorism in Pakistan will never end and will consume Pakistan itself. Someone has said truly - Pakistan is the only country which negotiates while pointing the gun at its own head.

TonySingh | 13 years ago | Reply @tim: "Why shouldn’t Kashmir belong to Pakistan? Its population is mostly Muslim… It should belong to Pakistan!" And then they should blow themselves to prove themselves to be good Pakistanis? By your logic most of south Asia should belong to India since most of the population in south asia is non-muslim!

abhi | 13 years ago | Reply Bilal your post is comical. You can froth as much as you want you will never get Kashmir. If you want peace it is good, if you want War it is your wish.

Bilal | 13 years ago | Reply Though the authenticity of wikileaks is as good as our knowledge about the source of information on wikipedia 0, it is clear to someone who understands the geo-poltiical situation in the region that for the past 64 years the major conflict between the two countries is Kashmir. The sooner it gets settled the better. As for Pakistan employing terrorist organisations in Kashmir to achieve its goals; it is not only untenable but also illogical for the following 2 simple reasons: The population across both sides of the line of control fully support Pakistan's stance of a plebicite in Kashmir against the biggest hypocrisy of the largest democracy which denies Kashmiri muslims the right to freely vote and choose their destiny. So why would Pakistan need to emplopy terrorist organisations for such a indigenous struggle? The groups that fight in Kashmir are fighting not against the population but against an invading army sitting there for the past so many years.And I think support to any such freedom struggle is legitimate cause. It's actually the Indian army that terrorizes kashmiris for asking freedom and hence the Indian army is the target. No where in the world and anytime in history is such an imported insurgency sustainable. The debate was never about Pakistan funding terrorist organisations in Kashmir, the fundamental point has always been: its a legitimate struggle. At the moment the whole talk about kashmir is skewed due to the turmoild in Pakistan given the American invasion of Afghanistan. Soon the Americans realize that its an unwinnable war and would have to move out and Pakistan would be able to set it foreign policy stand on the issue.

anil | 13 years ago | Reply Now pak is not a country .It is my conclusion.

tim | 13 years ago | Reply Why shouldn't Kashmir belong to Pakistan? Its population is mostly Muslim... It should belong to Pakistan!

Ashok | 13 years ago | Reply What a strange concept - that legitimizes terror as an instrument of state policy. All of you know that there will never be a plebiscite in Kashmir because Pakistan has altered the demographics of Gilgit Baltistan and has also ceded part of Kashmir territory to China. That nullifies any agreement or statement made in 1947. If India decides to use Sindhi and Punjabi outfits to terrorize Pakistan to discuss the 'core issues' of Sindh and West Punjab, will that be OK with Pakistan? If Kashmir's simple majority of Muslims means that it should go to Pakistan, doesn't that mean that since the Indian subcontinent is simple majority Hindus, the whole of Pakistan should go to India? Furthermore, Islam didn't even originate in India. Pakistanis are fooling themselves because they have nothing better to do.

ghairatmand | 13 years ago | Reply Great!!! If the world bows to Pakistan's way of negotiating things using terrorism we all are doomed for eternity. Every terrorist will see this as a great tool to get what they want. So for anybody who suggests that we accept Pakistan's way of solving Kashmir issue to stop terrorism has no imagination and is insane.

NJ | 13 years ago | Reply The correct nature of Pakistani terrorism is not nationalistic but religious. Therefore, I believe, it is not mere disputes but intollerence towards other religion as the main reason. Tomorrow, Pakistan may say, it is Hindu majority India which is the reason it needs to have terrorism as state policy; are we going to find it still worth commenting on.....I just wonder how can terrorism be a matter of justification whatsoever, where only innocents are killed. Time is not to discuss about Kashmir or Baluchistan but to see where and what fits the best i the jogsaw of Human plight or happiess.

Raja | 13 years ago | Reply @A Thinker I don't know where you are from. Your comments are weird. only apprx 6 years out of 64 years India was ruled by BJP. It is the opinion, it is a total commitment of all Indians- Indian muslims, BJP, Congress, Communists- the ENIRE SPECTRUM is NOT TO REVISE the border of India. Only acceptable solution may be accepting LOC as IB since we have been unable to have you vacate POK.

Mirza | 13 years ago | Reply Kashmir issue is there for over 60 years. Yet the Jehadis like Al-Qaida, Taliban and likes are more recent phenomenon. In fact OBL and Al-Qaida, have Arab roots and origin. Al-Qaida and OBL type turned against the US due to its presence in Arab lands and its support for Israel against Palestinians. Even if the Kashmir is solved these Jehadis would still find reason to hate and attack innocent civilians. The blatant lie that they are principled people/organization/freedom movement is a cruel joke on their victims. Have Pakistani civilians kept Palestinians and Kashmiris under their occupation? If not then why are they killiing Pakistani civilians by tens of thousands and not the actual occupiers? These cowards are brave only against poor civilians of Pakistan. Even in Pakistan they target poor police and not military officials.

Cherish Raj | 13 years ago | Reply No redrawing of borders at any cost!! Peace or no peace in the region.

Avanti | 13 years ago | Reply Really? If I were a Pakistani or an LeT, or a TTP, I would be saying, "Great. Now that we have Kashmir, let us move on to, maybe, Hyderabad." No Sir. You aren't coming anywhere close to getting more than what you already got. The lines have been drawn and shall remain so. Accept it and move on to a much better economic future, peace, and tranquility, or live under the present conditions. The choice is yours.

Arslan | 13 years ago | Reply @Blognostic: Try to digest your Naxalites first bro' =)

Krishna | 13 years ago | Reply That is blackmail!.

A thinker | 13 years ago | Reply From Indian right-wing point of view, let's not resolve Kashmir at any cost even if requires Indians to eat grass. let's terrorism takes it natural course in Pakistan. It may take 5-10 yrs but India can afford to wait. It may impact India's GDP 0.001 percent. But its OK for a 10% plus GDP growth. By that time there will be no Kashmir problem after that... Any thought from Pakistan right wingers??

sumeet | 13 years ago | Reply this is a totally wrong understanding on the part of US.terrorism or jihad has become more ideological than political.terrorist oppose india's ideology and kashmir is just a perfect excuse.if it was the case,then why did not mujahiden created by US and pak stopped their activity after soviet disintegrated.US need to learn from its past,but it has severly failed in that aspect till today.

insane guy | 13 years ago | Reply @sherish: Wow thats an amazing conclusion ! Well keep supporting the terrorist Jihadis and end up making Pakistan as the next Somali... congratulations....

sherish | 13 years ago | Reply It is never to late for the states to understand that despite the deteriorating situation we still have our state policy when it comes to India and that is what the whole globe should understand this. If today we announce the war against India these taliban's are going to be our first line of defence the reason stated that they are going to be in the line of Jihad saving the ideological state from the clutches of the non believers

Noukhez | 13 years ago | Reply It is never to late for the states to understand that despite the deteriorating situation we still have our state policy when it comes to India and that is what the whole globe should understand this. If today we announce the war against India these taliban's are going to be our first line of defence the reason stated that they are going to be in the line of Jihad saving the ideological state from the clutches of the non believers

Talisman | 13 years ago | Reply There's no reason not to solve the Kashmir issue anyway. India needs to pull out troops and let the people of Kashmir vote, as the UN resolution states. Pakistan and India need to accept the results of the vote. It seems likely it will reduce terrorism, and we can move on to other issues. More generally, we need better sharing of resources all around the world. Stability comes when people have their basic needs met, and that is true in Pakistan too.

hgfjhgj | 13 years ago | Reply but pakistani often say that wikileaks is sponsers by cia to defame pakistan image so for the sake of that we should not go into these cables.

Skin Taj | 13 years ago | Reply I think THIS IS THE ANSWER...solving Kashmir issue... PAKISTAN moving away from these Jihadi groups therefore...and move on to the ROAD TO PROGRESS !!!!!!!!

an | 13 years ago | Reply 'Pakistan’s support of terrorist groups' 'pushes them closer to both Afghan and Kashmir-focused terrorist groups' and think who are the real victims??

Blognostic | 13 years ago | Reply Pakistan uses Terrorism as a state policy. LeT is no longer a child to listen to its mother ISI. It has become a monster which is going to eat Pakistan soon. ;)

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