Pakistan successfully test-fires nuclear capable Hatf-9

By AFP
Published: April 20, 2011
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The missile has been developed to add deterrence value to the Strategic Weapons Development programme. PHOTO: ISPR

The missile has been developed to add deterrence value to the Strategic Weapons Development programme. PHOTO: ISPR

ISLAMABAD: 

Pakistan on Tuesday successfully conducted the first flight test of the newly developed short range surface to surface multi tube ballistic missile Hatf IX (NASR), a statement issued by the Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) stated.

According to the statement, the missile has been developed to add deterrence value to Pakistan’s Strategic Weapons Development programme at shorter ranges. NASR, with a range of 60 kilometres, carries nuclear warheads of appropriate yield with high accuracy, shoot and scoot attributes. This quick response system addresses the need to deter evolving threats, it said.

Director General Strategic Plans Division, Lieutenant General (Retired) Khalid Ahmed Kidwai, senior officers from the strategic forces, scientists and engineers of strategic organisations were present on the occasion.

On this occasion, Kidwai said that the test was a very important milestone in consolidating Pakistan’s strategic deterrence capability at all levels of the threat spectrum. He said that in the hierarchy of military operations, the NASR Weapon System now provides Pakistan with short range missile capability in addition to the already available medium and long range ballistic missiles and cruise missiles in its inventory.

Military sources said that the new missile system belongs to the category of tactical nuclear weapons and is a low yield battlefield deterrent, which is capable of inflicting damage on mechanised forces such as armed brigades and divisions.

With the development of this multi- tube, ‘shoot-n-scoot’ capability, Indian planners will now be deterred from considering options of limited war, the sources said.

According to ISPR’s statement, the successful test has also been appreciated by President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani, who have congratulated the scientists and engineers on their outstanding success.

Published in The Express Tribune, April 20th, 2011.


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Reader Comments (146)

  • Pakistani in US
    Apr 19, 2011 - 12:26PM

    Let’s use this to finish the poor and illustrate to get them out of their misery.Recommend

  • Pakistani in US
    Apr 19, 2011 - 12:27PM

    *illiterate. Damn spell check.Recommend

  • bvindh
    Apr 19, 2011 - 12:55PM

    North Korea should feel reassured about the performance of their missiles.Recommend

  • Eg
    Apr 19, 2011 - 1:00PM

    Don’t just condemn everything!
    Nuclear deterrence is the last thing standing between Pak and its so-called allies and big-mouth neighbours.
    Although, I pray that our capabilities are spent on safeguarding our ppl which is, sadly, not the case nowadays. Anyway we have the right to better our defence and we better keep doing it. Recommend

  • Rana Amjad
    Apr 19, 2011 - 1:10PM

    Pak Fauj ZindabadRecommend

  • Uzair Javaid
    Apr 19, 2011 - 1:12PM

    @bvindh: i literally knew and my eyes rolled left to the name as i was sure it would be surely a indian. What you test my son are Russian made toys that dont exactly suit the climatic conditions across india to be of full accuracy. This is what held you from your dreamed SURGICAL STRIKES onto Pakistani territory in 2008. Get your facts correctRecommend

  • rehman
    Apr 19, 2011 - 1:27PM

    what are these bombs for? we thought it would povide security but are we secure?ask yourselves suicide bombings, kidnappings, theft ,dacoits! but no we want to have bombs cause we feel more threatened from india even if we die in the midst of bombs!!we today have an existential crises of moderate thought in this country and we want to make bombs against india!we have pathetic education and health sector but no we want to add more nukes!we are dying everday but u know what i think even if we die india is more of a threat so we better get more F-16s!Recommend

  • junaid ahmed khan
    Apr 19, 2011 - 1:28PM

    For all those people who say that PAKISTNI MISSILES are made in CHINA, this is an perfect answer for those. CHINA do not has any multiple tubes missile program, RUSSIA has that program and missiles. Now indians, what do you people have to say about made in CHINA concept. Recommend

  • swapnil patel
    Apr 19, 2011 - 1:42PM

    tomorrow times of india will give detailed article on this and next month DRDO will make something bigger than this.PA will retalliate with even bigger and better missile…God knows when these all will end.Recommend

  • AD
    Apr 19, 2011 - 1:46PM

    Missiles Test,Terrorist Attack ,drones bombing,Suicide Bomber , military coups = Pakistan
    Do something positive to make other think that Pakistan is on positive path.Missile are going to stay here for ever. But Present generation of Pakistani won’t.Help poor. Where are the dollars Pak got for flood victims? Gone with the Missile.Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Apr 19, 2011 - 2:02PM

    Good. Enjoy the fireworks. As it is, they are not going to be used anywhere anyway. Maybe Pakistan develops some satellite carrying vehicle using this.Recommend

  • saleem
    Apr 19, 2011 - 2:05PM

    Great. These missiles are eating the people of Pakistan. GreatRecommend

  • bvindh
    Apr 19, 2011 - 2:07PM

    nuclear capable missile with a 60km range? is something wrong here? for 60km range, you could as well use a suicide bomber driving a trash truck.Recommend

  • J. Oberoi
    Apr 19, 2011 - 2:11PM

    Nuke-capable missile with a range of “60 kms”?? Well, you’d better run out of there pretty fast after firing it.Recommend

  • Ali
    Apr 19, 2011 - 2:15PM

    way to go pakistan..Recommend

  • Wollstonecraft
    Apr 19, 2011 - 2:25PM

    @Oberoi: Read instructions – For internal use only.Recommend

  • Anil
    Apr 19, 2011 - 2:32PM

    This blog seems to be only visited/updated by friends of Pakistan from India and ultra anti Army friends from Pak who just need an excuse to criticize the Army. So there is no point reasoning or arguing here.. Recommend

  • fahim
    Apr 19, 2011 - 2:32PM

    Fake chinese missiles in action painted in peshawar factory!!

    first pakistan needs to learn to build cycle and bikes!!Recommend

  • Ravi
    Apr 19, 2011 - 2:42PM

    @junaid ahmed khan:
    Double tube, single tube?????
    Were you sitting inside missile??????Recommend

  • Mjmannish
    Apr 19, 2011 - 2:43PM

    Is it the same Pakistan that was begging for food and supplies from all over the world for floods.

    Way to go Pakistan now fire that on India. Hindus or I should say unbelievers will be killed Recommend

  • Khalid Rahim
    Apr 19, 2011 - 2:51PM

    Can we use the missilles against the concentrations of the terrorist once for all and end this
    on going neocon business. If not what is the distance of Mumbai from Karachi or Kabul from
    Peshawar? certainly not 60km? Have we missed a zero next to the sixty ie 600km; that is an achievement if AFP could clarify?Recommend

  • Cautious
    Apr 19, 2011 - 2:56PM

    So much for cricket diplomacy?. I noted how you deferred testing your missile while your Finance Minister was oversees begging for money – if you have enough money to waste on these highly expensive and utterly useless weapons why should anyone give you any money?Recommend

  • Salman
    Apr 19, 2011 - 3:09PM

    @Anil,
    Totally agree with you. Recommend

  • Shahbaz Younis
    Apr 19, 2011 - 3:12PM

    @bvindh

    Its not like your arsenal purely made by Russia stamped by India :DRecommend

  • johnny_bravo
    Apr 19, 2011 - 3:18PM

    60kms? wow, now that’s useful!!! ROFLRecommend

  • faraz
    Apr 19, 2011 - 3:18PM

    Nuclear tipped missle with 60 kilometer range; is this a nuclear suicide vest?Recommend

  • Arsalan
    Apr 19, 2011 - 3:24PM

    Why so many negative comments?

    Do not you know what Allah has said to you ppl:-

    Against kuffars make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war to strike terror into the (hearts of) the Enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others beside, whom you may not know, but whom Allah does know. Whatever you shall spend in the Cause of Allah, shall be repaid to you, and you shall not be treated unjustly. (Qur’an: 8:60)Recommend

  • Amer
    Apr 19, 2011 - 3:24PM

    The common man in Pakistan and in India couldn’t care less about these missles and bombs. They are more concerned about their day to day security. In one of the largest cities of the world (Karachi), we are more concerned about someone putting a gun to our heads and demanding everything…. who cares about a nuclear capable BS missle!! and the first thing that I and many others thought was “60km nuclear capable missle??”… I MEAN SERIOUSLY!! Who the hell are we kidding here? Recommend

  • jameel
    Apr 19, 2011 - 3:28PM

    People are dying here in corruption and living below the poverty line they are selling their kids, committing suicide because of hunger! DO WE NEED THIS SHOW OF NUKES? When we are already dying of internal crises, suicides bombs, killings, sectarian violence, loot of national wealth.
    This century is more about economic than military and Japan, China, Germany are the examples of economic power. It would be better if we provide water and basic needs to our rural areas! Then we would deserve to celebrate anything else.Recommend

  • Pagal Mulla
    Apr 19, 2011 - 3:29PM

    My fireworks go farther than that. lolRecommend

  • Naveed
    Apr 19, 2011 - 3:30PM

    India provides a perfect example of a country which is hardly able to feed its more than a billion burgeoning population but still is a contender to be part of the elite club of the super powers. it is developing and expanding its military and nuclear arsenal beyond sensible limits when most of the population lives below the poverty line. Japan could have easily done that, yet it chose wisely. Pakistan on the other hand, is tied in a endless race of catching up with its neighbor. its like a tortoise trying to catch up a hare and ultimately ends up draining itself of all the energy. India and Pakistan….we are just a bunch of fools.Recommend

  • ABD
    Apr 19, 2011 - 3:32PM

    @johnny_bravo…..well if you launch it from wagah (lahore), it could still affect Indian territory. Recommend

  • dextor
    Apr 19, 2011 - 3:34PM

    Bvindh… Thank you….This missile was dualy successfull…on the field and off the field..i just cant believe this….guys…please now stop this for a while and spent money on educationRecommend

  • Arsalan
    Apr 19, 2011 - 3:36PM

    @faraz:

    Such missile is needed to blast Indian Military Concentrations close to border and no counter measure can work like anti-missiles bought by Indians from Russia due to short range and very less flight time.

    If you see the wind direction and rotation of earth, all the fall out is likely to spread in Indian Territory so,
    Do Not Worry and have a sound sleep.Recommend

  • fahim
    Apr 19, 2011 - 3:46PM

    India is growing at 9%!
    with this growth and strict corruption checking mechanism,it can continue to get out 1-2% people out of poverty!

    It has second highest saving rate of 36% in the world(only next to china),so it can continue to borrow public money and spend on social secuirty,and welfare programs!!

    Poverty in india is decreasing rapidly and we have the worlds highest subsidised food program( we dont export our agricultural products at cost of our poor)..

    All these missiles are chinese clones will become dud with anti missile defence!!Recommend

  • Tara
    Apr 19, 2011 - 3:47PM

    India got better missile(Anna Hazare), new era of “corruption free” india starts. Recommend

  • rk singh
    Apr 19, 2011 - 4:20PM

    Good news for India. Now we are sure that pakistani government wants to bankrupt itself. Pl develop missiles with 6000 km range now.Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Apr 19, 2011 - 4:32PM

    @Arsalan:
    Really and how good is your nuclear arsenal then if it cannot devestate an area of 60km radius? And then after that retaliation………? Think abt it. The only use it can have is to put satellite into lower orbits with some modifications on payload carrying area. As a tactical or weapon of war… no way! Recommend

  • Apr 19, 2011 - 4:36PM

    @Pakistani in US:
    How much do you send from there to help get your poor out from their ‘privations?’ Or do you lessen the budget deficit of Uncle Sam and talk morality with us?Recommend

  • Mitesh
    Apr 19, 2011 - 4:42PM

    @junaid ahmed khan: I agree with you as this may be made in DPRK, not china.Recommend

  • Singh
    Apr 19, 2011 - 4:42PM

    Do they calculate fall out range.
    Japan incident reaching thousand of miles away.
    Will they move pak to some other continent to save its ppl before they use any nuke in Indian subcontinent?
    Idiot mind with idiot thought.Recommend

  • Mitesh
    Apr 19, 2011 - 4:46PM

    @Shahbaz Younis: Just go and check wikipedia, and check the indegineously built misiiles of india and pakistan. You will find out the truth.Recommend

  • Saad Durrani
    Apr 19, 2011 - 4:47PM

    I hope I am not wrong but if you fire one of these from Karachi, Hatf 9 would not even reach Hyderabad.

    I hope someone made a typo or maybe they might be some kind of ‘anti-drone’. Then again it is the first test, I presume.Recommend

  • Roflcopter
    Apr 19, 2011 - 5:03PM

    meanwhile an Indian missile failed to launch yet again…….Recommend

  • bvindh
    Apr 19, 2011 - 5:20PM

    @Uzair Javaid:

    “i literally knew and my eyes rolled left to the name as i was sure it would be surely a indian.”

    –so, what’s so Indian about my name, Sir?Recommend

  • Saad Durrani
    Apr 19, 2011 - 5:21PM

    If I am not wrong but if you fire this from Karachi, it would not even reach Hyderabad unless that 60km is a typo.

    However, it is the first time that we are hearing of Hatf 9. I think there would be more test of these.Recommend

  • bvindh
    Apr 19, 2011 - 5:28PM

    @ABD:

    “if you launch it from wagah (lahore), it could still affect Indian territory”

    –Emphasis on the word “ifRecommend

  • sandy
    Apr 19, 2011 - 5:38PM

    funny part is the missile is just 60 kms… for a nuclear weapon !!! whose radiation ranges for hundreds of kms… I think this either a scrap deal from chinese or a low cost gimmick from north korea. Good job pak… you can launch a missile ! Spectacular achievement!Recommend

  • FactCheck
    Apr 19, 2011 - 5:59PM

    @Uzair Javaid:

    Actually not. Made in Bagalore. Surgical strike doesn’t need missiles, MKI’ will do jus fine.

    Thank You.Recommend

  • amarjamali
    Apr 19, 2011 - 6:02PM

    this is 2100 century. plz stop detering each other because this policy has been adopted by both countries since last 60 year as result of which common man is facing hardships in bothsides of border.we should learn lesson from european countries who made treaties and have no restriction for their citizens to travel around eourope without having visa.unlike these developed countries we neighbourers are confronting with each other and ultimately peoples have to suffer therefore we both nations must be realistic and avoid emotinal attitudes which is in favour of both countries for bright future.Recommend

  • Aftab Kenneth Wilson
    Apr 19, 2011 - 6:04PM

    This “UNCLEAR” missile which is capable to carry all suicide bombers has the range of 60 kms. This means who ever fires it will also go along with it. Good means to transfer the people from one city to another. This will also ease our outdated transport system. I would propose all wealthy people around the world to please fit this Missile in their cars instead of engine which can not match its speed. Recommend

  • ajpirzada
    Apr 19, 2011 - 6:13PM

    while i accept my ignorance in this regard, i have got a question to ask..

    Isn’t 60 km too less a distance for a nuclear missile? Imagine I fire it with a nuclear warhead on it, wont i have to catch a bus and start travelling in the opposite direction in order to save myself from the radiations? Recommend

  • UAF
    Apr 19, 2011 - 6:17PM

    ROFL: nuclear capable and only 60 Kms, People ready: to give taxes, more inflation. Soon you will find missiles on the roads but no food, bread and mind it nobody will purchase your missiles. Its unbelievable that we could build 15 dams from the money of these so called test flights. Its irony of this country that water saving isnt the issue of national security.Recommend

  • UAF
    Apr 19, 2011 - 6:26PM

    ROFL: nuclear capable and only 60 Kms, People ready: to give more taxes, more inflation. Soon you will find missiles on the roads but no food, bread and mind it nobody will purchase your missiles. Its unbelievable that we could build 15 dams from the money of these so called test flights. Its irony of this country that water saving isnt the issue of national security.Recommend

  • Sabih Shad
    Apr 19, 2011 - 6:28PM

    Whats the fuss about 60 km. Missiles can be used as tactical weapons on the battlefield as well. Not necessarily as strategic weapons only.

    Moreover, being nuclear capable doesn’t mean it can not carry a conventional payload. Nuclear just becomes a part of the headline to get people to read the report.Recommend

  • Salman
    Apr 19, 2011 - 6:33PM

    @bvindh, “If” there were “Ifs” with Pakistan launching this, your army would have gone to war with us long time back,
    @Sandy, this funny part was clear when in 2002 musharaff ordered the army to be ready for any strikes and started testing the stockpile, the response from your side was worth seeing, you know you have more to loose and cannot afford a strike, as regards the low range, dont worry we have enough to cover all india and your all time master isreal too, this is a small rage tactical one the significance of which you will only find out from your army, as regards the certificate of origin, please visit us sometime and we will show you the indigenous approach,
    @amarjamali: their majority does not have heart to do what you are suggestnig, they believe we all are the same, no matter how much we move forward, they would always lean back, not a fly will fall in their country without our conspiracy.Recommend

  • i dont want to die
    Apr 19, 2011 - 6:42PM

    60 km for NUCLEAR MISSILE. Will they launch from Gujranwala to Lahore. Please provide some brains to pakistani scientistsRecommend

  • Blunt!
    Apr 19, 2011 - 6:46PM

    @ajpirzada

    True! Hence , Pakistan will use it primarily for INTERNAL use! :PRecommend

  • Arsalan
    Apr 19, 2011 - 7:59PM

    @Tony Singh:

    Once 2 such missiles will be launched on your both strike corps and their armored divisions and single mechanized division will melt into radio-active metal then you will come to know about the devastating capability of this missile.

    I am sure this will only be done as last resort and for saving Pakistan.

    As far as retaliation or second strike is concerned – you Indians alway forget one thing.

    We are not afraid of death. We love death more than you love life.Recommend

  • Arsalan
    Apr 19, 2011 - 8:04PM

    @ajpirzada:

    You question has already been answered by me in my earlier post. See above.Recommend

  • Anish
    Apr 19, 2011 - 8:06PM

    We need more.. Pakistani ..please please urge your govt to build more missiles and these toys. we want you to see great nuclear nation with 14 hrs of electricity load shedding in karachi.. I guess you need moreo f these tests.. pleae urge your govt… please get on the raods and demand more… those who opposes it target kill them…. please burn tires on roads to demand more of these toys Recommend

  • Juju
    Apr 19, 2011 - 8:26PM

    @rehman: well said. Couldn’t have put it better… So frustrating!Recommend

  • Ravi
    Apr 19, 2011 - 9:39PM

    err……60 kms???????
    may be this will be used by pakistani army to quell BLA…………Recommend

  • Indian USA
    Apr 19, 2011 - 10:38PM

    If this kind of missile makes headline..then god save Pakistani missile program..

    or wait a minute..may be this is a test missile for Haqanni network suicide bombers :)Recommend

  • Khurdra
    Apr 19, 2011 - 10:43PM

    To all Indians…

    Your toy like bombs are based on failed Russian technology and even Russia is stepping backward after end of cold war as well as economy fall down…that is why you have become new beggars yourself for the sake of weapons and now are looking towards USA and EU….
    and increasing your defense budget by 12% every year…..!!!!!!Recommend

  • Grace
    Apr 20, 2011 - 1:35AM

    @Khurdra: Well said. All the Indians posting on this site only reveal their deep seated jelousies. After Indian technology is just copied foreign technology whereas Pak technology is home grown and better.Recommend

  • junaid
    Apr 20, 2011 - 1:55AM

    @ajpirzada:
    incase you missed it is to deter any quick evolving threat..and those firing it are professionals with f16s and stuff and not buses around them,so they will know pretty fine what they are doing:))…

    Mashalah and Pakistan Zindabad..:))
    Recommend

  • Cosmo
    Apr 20, 2011 - 3:08AM

    60 km range !! hmm, am sure if you fire it from one corner of Karachi it should, most likely reach the other corner in time.
    It would probably be more effective to just ride a bike and denonate a bum 60km away. Recommend

  • Avanti
    Apr 20, 2011 - 3:10AM

    Pakistan is making bleed India via Kashmir militants. India is making Pakistan bankrupt via these arms games. Let us see who comes out ahead in 5 years. Recommend

  • concernedPaki
    Apr 20, 2011 - 3:54AM

    @Naveed – “hardly able to feed its more than a billion burgeoning population”…..and its still ranking high in economic prosperity……..hmmmmm…….you are hopeless. So I will save the effort to even correct you. But you are right about the rat race for arms. India and Pakistan are indeed fools Pakistan being the bigger fool here. At least India has strong economic and development going on with very high and steadily increasing FDI. Its budget is atleast 20 times bigger to Pakistan and itsratio of defence budget to overall budget is atleast 15 times lesser than that of Pakistan. So, your whole preach of wisdom just withers away by your silly remark about billion hungry people in India. Sorry bro looks like we have a really long way to go!!!!Recommend

  • concernedPaki
    Apr 20, 2011 - 3:56AM

    @ABD – Do you have any idea of repercussions of nuclear fallout if there is a blast just 60 kms away ??????? You are suicidal. !!!!Recommend

  • maynotmatter
    Apr 20, 2011 - 3:58AM

    @amarjamali – Only sane voice here. I am with you bro , 100 % . Both countries need to stop burning tax payer’s money on such boyish tit for tat.Recommend

  • maynotmatter
    Apr 20, 2011 - 4:02AM

    @ajpirzada – no dude, frankly u wud need to ride on another empty missile towards exact opposite direction and that is the only fastest way away and assures any chance to survive. Oh wait that will just keep u 120 kms. Damn!!! no luck dude, sorry :( And please dont take bus by the time driver hops in, the circuits will be fried by EMP waves from fallout. :)Recommend

  • maynotmatter
    Apr 20, 2011 - 4:17AM

    @Salman – Conspiracy by definition is “an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot”. Conspiracy by itself is lesser evil until it is put into “act” because until then it is just an idea and will do no real harm. India has “caught” “certain” Pakistani elements in “act” of “hatching” their “conspiracy” and willfully acted on it which is by and large on common sense and moral grounds called “terrorism” by global standards. India seriously don’t have conspiracy theory artists like Hamid Zaid but concrete proofs and facts , provided in form of video, telephonic conversation recordings and many other substantial materialistic proof to prove the “involvement” of “certain” Pakistani “elements” ( please do note I do not say “all Pakistanis” ) in conspiring and harming India. How many times Pakistani establishment has provided any material proof to Pakistani people, media, international bodies or India or anybody until now to prove India’s so called hand in Baloch insurgency ? I just see newspaper headlines and tv speeches and claim, but where is a single thread of proof ? So I am little surprise by your attempt to call India paranoid. Either ways I am with many Indian and Pakistanis out there ( certainly you might be one too ) who just hopes India and Pakistan stops burning tax payers money and do more constructive work for their people and put an end to this 60 yrs of unhappy memories.Recommend

  • maynotmatter
    Apr 20, 2011 - 4:29AM

    @Arsalan – My dear brother, I know you are brave. But just to fulfill your wish prove how brave you are I will not want my army or my country to nuke the innocent civilians. There are more people out there who just want to live their casual life and pay attention to their family and earn livelihood and care less or care non about whose missile is better. I wouldn’t want these people to suffer by insane act of few. Logically designing a 60 km nuke missile is bad idea period , bad for both enemy and the user itself. So its like saying i will cut your ear even if it means my total annihilation. You really want to ride on a pride for such missiles ? No offense and not discrediting any scientists and engineers. These guys are cool , they thrive hard. And we just sit here and criticize their dear work :). I think we should seriously stop this childish race and start living together as good neighbors :) Peace!!!Recommend

  • maynotmatter
    Apr 20, 2011 - 4:35AM

    @rehman – very well said. And the same goes to my India. Stop burning our money on weapons. Ordinary citizens need jobs and social benefits not fancy missiles to feel secure.Recommend

  • Avanti
    Apr 20, 2011 - 6:05AM

    Why is it red? Recommend

  • Indian USA
    Apr 20, 2011 - 6:20AM

    @Arsalan:

    ZAB once said “GHAS khayegen magar nuclear bomb banayege”

    Maybe,his words are taking shape in present day pakistan..

    Atleast,INDIA growing at 9% and slowly but steadily eradicating poverty..

    “We are not afraid of death. We love death more than you love life.”

    ya right..because people like you believe that beautiful virgins will welcome you after death.Recommend

  • maynotmatter
    Apr 20, 2011 - 6:45AM

    @junai – hmmmm……..only smart ones like you will use f16 for surface to surface missile :) Your are the best hope and bright future of Pakistan.Recommend

  • Pragmatist
    Apr 20, 2011 - 7:08AM

    If the flood victims ask where all the international aid went, they should each be given a Hatf-9 missile. That is where the money went. Recommend

  • Sonam Shyam
    Apr 20, 2011 - 7:20AM

    One thing I just don’t understand is why we Indians get worked up whenever Pakistan tests any missile or adds another set of J-17 fighters. It’s their money and their country and let them make or break it. Agreed that Pakistan with it’s precarious economic situation should be spending money judiciously besides undertaking massive tax reforms but we must remember that Pakistan will never collapse like the USSR. The reason is that the Pakistani military has quite successfully blackmailed US for money and the US will simply keep pouring sufficient money in to Pakistan to keep it floating. Noted Indian editor M.J.Akbar in his recent book on Pakistan had rightly commented that Pakistan would remain in a “Jelly Like State” and it will neither stabilize nor collapse. As far as this jingoistic breast beating by both of us regarding whose missiles are better, I would say that irrespective of the origin of the missiles, the fact is that both the nations have weapons of mass destruction which are good enough to wipe out millions in seconds and future wars are always possible till the Pakistani army gets under firm control of the civilians, the possibility of which, as for now is simply day dreaming. Recommend

  • Cosmo
    Apr 20, 2011 - 8:02AM

    @Arsalan:
    Wow ! mind blowing, you also took rotation of earth into account. As they say it in India , you my friend, just pulled out a Rajnikanth !!Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Apr 20, 2011 - 8:52AM

    @Arsalan:
    Now this 60km missile makes perfect sense, Since you love death so much, your Establishment has come up with this contraption to fulfill your love interest. Indeed its for INTERNAL USE only.Recommend

  • junaid ahmed khan
    Apr 20, 2011 - 9:10AM

    @mitesh and ravi,
    north korea also dont has any multi tube missile. RAVI i dont know what sort of an argument r u trying to make. Plz talk with facts, not fire in the air by just uttering rubbish.

    . pakistan also has 1300 miles range missiles and those are strategic missiles. the missile that is being tested today is a tactical missile, means can carry small nuclear weapons just enough to destroy military and air bases near border.Recommend

  • Apr 20, 2011 - 9:18AM

    strong Pakistan better PakistanRecommend

  • Naveed Javed
    Apr 20, 2011 - 9:55AM

    ALLAH ho AKBAR! Recommend

  • Joji
    Apr 20, 2011 - 10:15AM

    To all of you who are questioning the range of the missile being only 60kms; this weapon has been developed to counter india’s cold doctrine. This doctrine states that indian army to be mobilized and able to make precision surgical attacks on Pakistani soil within 72 hrs. Thus preventing an all out nuclear war and also shielding govt. of india from international pressure.

    Thus this weapon system plugs a loop hole in our defense capabilities which indian army could theoretically exploit by using fast moving ground base force. Recommend

  • Mustafa
    Apr 20, 2011 - 10:46AM

    @Arsalan:
    Typical suicidal mentality.By the way how old are you? Recommend

  • Shahbaz Younis
    Apr 20, 2011 - 11:23AM

    @Mitesh
    Oh really dear just read below report published wiscon project on nuclear arms and control, appreciating your indigenous capabilities.

    France helped India master liquid-fuel technology by selling India the technology used to build the “Viking” engine used on the Ariane space launcher. India calls its version the “Vikas.” The Agni also needed a guidance system. The German Space Agency obliged with a long tutorial in rocket guidance, which allowed India to develop a guidance system and learn how to produce its components (gyroscopes, accelerometers and so forth). The German Space Agency also tested a model of the first stage of the SLV-3 in one of its wind tunnels in Cologne and helped India build its own rocket test facilities. Germany also trained Indians in how to make composite materials.

    Thus, India’s biggest nuclear-capable missile is an international product. Under the mantle of peaceful space cooperation, the United States, France and Germany all helped create the most advanced nuclear missile in South Asia.Recommend

  • bvindh
    Apr 20, 2011 - 11:52AM

    @Grace:

    How can anyone be jealous of a country that invests in, scientists who work on and public that gloats over a nuclear missile with a range all of 60km?Recommend

  • bvindh
    Apr 20, 2011 - 12:05PM

    “Thus, India’s biggest nuclear-capable missile is an international product. Under the mantle of peaceful space cooperation, the United States, France and Germany all helped create the most advanced nuclear missile in South Asia.”

    –So? We paid for the technology with our hard and honestly earned money. We didn’t steal like A Q Khan or beg for cash like Zia (or Zardari or Musharraf or —-fill in random Pak leader’s name—- for that matter) or borrow (as in case of PNS Ghazi). Neither did we sell our tech to rougue states like a cheap street peddler (as it was the case with Pakistan).

    BTW, thanks for the compliments about our missiles being most advanced. Compliment from an enemy means more than one from a friend.Recommend

  • junaid
    Apr 20, 2011 - 12:12PM

    i just dont get 1 thing…if the ind are sooo allergic,spelled- afraid, of our technologies that they have gone to the height of absurdities like what of 100 km rad of 60 km missile ….why dont they just shut up their beaks and stay with their moronic and superstitious comments on their own newspaper rather than just wrangling here for none…..i don’t know what sort of ego they satisfy by just posting comments ….
    ps: anyone 2 patriotic an ind who might be thinkning to reply,please go to your own sites and leave us ,we really literally give a 100% dam heck to whatever you think!!Recommend

  • Sonam Shyam
    Apr 20, 2011 - 12:54PM

    The Pakistani army’s contention that this 60km tactical nuclear capable missile is going to deter Indian army’s rapid thrusts in to Pakistan is an absolute joke and it is meant for domestic Pakistani consumption than any thing else. There are some very fundamental points to understand regarding this tactical nuke missile. Firstly, we must not forget that nuclear weapons are not weapons meant to be used in wars by armies. Even much less dangerous weapons like chemical and biological warheads are not used by militaries in a war. Therefore to assume that Pakistan army is going to use nuclear warheads in a war is nothing but “Jingoistic Posturing”. Secondly, Indian army is deployed on the border with Pakistan and it won’t take much time for it to rapidly cross over in to Pakistan with active support from Indian Air Force. Now if Pakistani army were to use its tactical nukes against the advancing Indian army that would most certainly be within Pakistani territory. Can any right thinking Pakistani ever believe that nuclear weapons will be used on their own territory? Friends, there is nothing called a “Controlled Nuclear Explosion in the open” as things can get horribly wrong. The radiation, even from a small weapon can have disastrous consequences around the blast area and more than the Indian army, it will be Pakistani civilians who will suffer. Lastly, if Pakistan ever uses this tactical battlefield nuke, (Which I believe is an absolute bluff), it will give a very convenient excuse for India to launch a massive nuclear counter attack thus finishing Pakistan. Therefore tactically, India can finish off Pakistan while suffering a loss of a few thousand soldiers. Pakistani friends, it’s high time you start questioning your army and its mindless war theories. Recommend

  • Pragmatist
    Apr 20, 2011 - 12:54PM

    India should keep upping its defense budget at least to the extent of its GDP growth and Pakistan would try to follow suit. With an economy going backwards, the results will be predictable. The Soviet Union provides a clue to such a strategy.Recommend

  • v9s
    Apr 20, 2011 - 2:22PM

    I don’t know what’s wrong with you people. As soon as Pak launches a missile, all the indian trolls come out.

    This missile will not be a full on nuke bomb of many kt’s, it’ll probably be used as a tactical nuke…you know, with low yield? :rollseyes:
    Haven’t ever heard of the davy crockett? or a SAM?

    Let me make it easy for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacticalnuclearweapon

    Perhaps you guys should stop feigning ignorance.

    As for the launch, it’s deplorable that our Army is still doing things like this when we’re going through one of our worst times.Recommend

  • Anil
    Apr 20, 2011 - 2:25PM

    @bvindh:
    What is yourt problem, this missile is in responce to india’s Cold Start military doctrine, for this you need this range, and by the way wethear its 60 or 6000 KM you should not be concerned where we spend our money, you worry about your own slumps ..Recommend

  • mjmannish
    Apr 20, 2011 - 2:26PM

    @Arsalan:
    Now that is the root cause of Problem in all the Islamic countries, including yours. But what can be said, your book is world’s only true book among all the religions and your religion is only true religion in the whole world. I am really happy that you have submitted to the only true faith in the world and wait for the judgement day. Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Apr 20, 2011 - 2:31PM

    @Shahbaz Younis:
    were you a part of this program?Recommend

  • Apr 20, 2011 - 3:56PM

    @ajpirzada:
    Pakistan has developed many types of Atomic warhead carrying missiles from long range to short range. The present one is a small version of 18km missille launched earlier pleaase see:
    http://tribune.com.pk/story/131079/pakistan-successfully-tests-another-missile/

    So dont worry if India ventures again to attack from Land forces as it did in 1970 and 1965 from Punjab secton, these short range atomic warheads will be nail in their coffin.

    For your information, Pakistan Warhead Missiles are more superior than of India. Read the article at: http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/594-1305.aspx

    So Indian and Indian must relax and wait for our accurate attack if we are being troubled by them verybally or practically.

    Regards

    Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
    Johannesburg
    South AfricaRecommend

  • Holy moly
    Apr 20, 2011 - 4:49PM

    Range of 60 kms?!!! Looks like Pak military is trying to nuke it’s own people. Pakis, your greatest threat lies within.Recommend

  • Amazed
    Apr 20, 2011 - 5:25PM

    @Dr. Saleem Siddiqi:
    Do you really believe that Pak defense which is 1/10th the capability of India really poses any threat or hurdle for India? Do you really believe that India’s missile capabilities are any less than the three other major military powers in it’s club? Do you think, someone who can send a spacecraft to the moon cannot send a missile anywhere in this planet? Those nukes, if they at all work, can easily be intercepted and destroyed with the defense shield India has in place now. Please check it out yourself and the reality will be as clear as light of day.Recommend

  • Sannan ZM
    Apr 20, 2011 - 5:55PM

    @ All those who are concerned with 60 km range of this missile:

    Please go to wikipedia and type “effects of nuclear explosion” and click on section 2.4.

    According to the figures in the table, even if Pakistan uses the heaviest explosive yield of 20 mega tonnes, the maxmum ground range radius covered is 53 km causing first degree burns in the vicinity. Rest of the effects/damages and their ground range can be easily interpreted from this table for different explosive yields. This missile is exclusively designed for close range enemies. Sleep tight Indians.

    Peace.Recommend

  • Pagal Mulla
    Apr 20, 2011 - 6:11PM

    It is meant for use in Balochistan and Pakhtunistan.Recommend

  • H I
    Apr 20, 2011 - 7:26PM

    @ajpirzada
    I am laughing my lungs out pal/Good humour.Normally on such missiles amount of bomb material used is very less which will not go beyond certain area say 20km.This is generally used to target close by areas which might be used as a buffer zone by enemy once larger areas or bigger cities are attackedRecommend

  • murad khan
    Apr 20, 2011 - 7:43PM

    people are dying of hunger and disease but the bloody security state is wasting its resources on missiles technology .shame on the security establishment of Pakistan which is totally indifferent towards the real issues of the poor people of Pakistan.Recommend

  • Sannan ZM
    Apr 20, 2011 - 7:47PM

    @Sonam Shyam:
    “Secondly, Indian army is deployed on the border with Pakistan and it won’t take much time for it to rapidly cross over in to Pakistan with active support from Indian Air Force.”

    Darling…we are not sleeping at the border. Why dont you give it a shot like you guys did in 1965 and see what happens. I think we will play a domestic match, probably Lahore vs Karachi at Mohali this time. (INSHALLAH)

    “Lastly, if Pakistan ever uses this tactical battlefield nuke, (Which I believe is an absolute bluff), it will give a very convenient excuse for India to launch a massive nuclear counter attack thus finishing Pakistan.”

    This was really funny…how cute of you! let me give you an advice here…first test and see if your “massive” nukes work and then we’ll see who finishes who. btw how old are you??Recommend

  • Zeeshan P.
    Apr 20, 2011 - 8:16PM

    lol at Sannan ZM…Recommend

  • Salim Ansari
    Apr 20, 2011 - 8:40PM

    I think Pakistan is very secure from Indian ground invasion now. But the question is – are there plans to invade India to free Kashmir ? If yes, Allah help us, if not, the security establishment has been wasting a lot of money. India still wins – it need not do anything – as India has no territorial aims on Pakistan. India just needs to keep fighting a low intensity localized urban conflict in Kashmir, while other provinces continue with business as usual.Recommend

  • Apr 20, 2011 - 9:06PM

    @Sannan ZM: and AMZED
    Keep Sleeping – Pakistan believe in Islamic faith which is missing in Hindus. Time will tell what disaster we can make when if India see us with any bad intention.

    Sweet Dreams – – –Recommend

  • Sannan ZM
    Apr 20, 2011 - 9:30PM

    @Dr. Saleem Siddiqi:

    Sir you misunderstood me. I am a Pakistani and I quoted an Indian girl’s comments in my post to reply on them. I had to clear out this 60 km range issue they were dancing about just to make them aware that 60 km is good enough even for 20 mega tonnes explosive yield warhead for close by Indian cities. Though this short-range missile is for lighter nukes such as 20KT..Recommend

  • idonthatepaki
    Apr 20, 2011 - 9:39PM

    @Sannan ZM – We entered Pakistan in 1965 ? Ah yes you are a product of that lied history text books you read in school isnt it ? Someone just coined the word tactical nuke here in blog and every Pakistani started using that word without even understanding what tactical nuke is. Also if you think you are planning to use your low yield bomb as tactical nuke, you guys are just pathetic. Shows exactly how corroded your education system is. Stop hating India, try to get some education, stop listening to your mullahs and clerics who still thinks sun revolves around earth and otherwise is blasphemy.
    @All – India’s cold war doctrine came into form after numerous terrorist attacks by Pakistan in India. What do you want India to do, just take the hit and do nothing ? You would wish wouldn’t you. While Indians are well aware that war will result into a huge loss of life and resources and it will be a grave adventurism, but then comes a point when u cant just take it anymore and u have to punish the perpetrators themselves even if it means entire annihilation of south Asia. So from the comments above the Pakistani seems to be arrogantly dreaming that their elements will keep terrorizing India and India will never use cold war doctrine because of the fear of loss ? If sane thinking is called fear these days then God bless your soul. Wait for second Mumbai and everybody’s doubt will be cleared. We will see whose weapons will help them survive. Cold war doctrine is planned keeping in mind that insane Pakistan will use nuclear weapon cause they are freakin scared to fight like a valiant soldier. Its frontmen will be terrorists and entire jihadi organisation so it will have no problem in launching the 60 km “tactical nuke” in battlefield which will kill Indian army and the jihadist which will not be loss for them. then they will sit in their bunker dreaming to use the entire nuke stockpile on India and wishing India will just sit and take the strike. India has signed “no first use” treaty doesnt mean it will wait for the hit and then decide what to do. Everyone Paki knows the outcome of full scale war and are wetting their pants. So just to hide your fear you grow huge beards to look scary and try shouting slogans loudly. All pre medieval techniques. Go on with this, you have right to be happy so you perish with happy memories.Recommend

  • Pagal Mullah
    Apr 20, 2011 - 10:26PM

    If the Indians come in through Kashmir, and we assume the missiles will be placed in Islamabad then Islamabad will be evaporated, in pursuit of reaching kashmir. If Indians come in through karachi, even then Islamabad will be evaporated, if they come in through Karachi, even then same result,If they come in through Afghanistan, Oo lala, even then Islamabad will be evaporated. In any case, the moral of the story, Run out of islamabad!Recommend

  • Hasan
    Apr 20, 2011 - 10:27PM

    I think with this short range we can call it the first suicide missile. Bravo.Recommend

  • Avi Horowitz
    Apr 20, 2011 - 11:50PM

    Pakistan does not have expertise to miniaturize nuclear weapons and Hatf-9 can not “lift” a conventional nuclear device.Recommend

  • Humair Anwar
    Apr 21, 2011 - 1:23AM

    what are we TRYING to do? When Pakistan was testing missile, India sent 3 satellites into space. Look at the WEST and CHINA and JAPAN, they are setting up industries. I heard DR QADIR saying that when a nation has NUCLEAR BOMB, they should relax and not worry about their defense and just work on the economic sector. WHAT ARE WE DOING? we don’t need this anymoreRecommend

  • double amaxed
    Apr 21, 2011 - 2:05AM

    @Amazed:
    what an idiotic superstition………..a 5’7” inch ofcorse needs much less clothes than a 6’9” inch man….so no wonder if it is 1-10th or what…..point is it must cover the body and whose cloth does it more glamourously ….we all know that….jealous freak heads cant do something except for fake atomic bombs and just keep on komenting posts as this propoganda like they do in UN and on other forums as if it will do them some gud if they dare do us any bad……
    and sending something on moon is one thing and transporting your nukes with pinpoint accuracy is another……….moreover 60kms..all of u are really really stunned and that is why this news has gone so popular……but sleep tight and dont forget to close windows..we ar awake..hahaha:))Recommend

  • Arijit Sharma
    Apr 21, 2011 - 3:28AM

    Pakistan believe in Islamic faith which is missing in Hindus.
    We are not afraid of death. We love death more than you love life.

    The question to ask is – does the Sindhi, Baloch, Pashtun or the Mohajir want to commit collective suicide with the Punjabi ? Recommend

  • LOL
    Apr 21, 2011 - 3:38AM

    I really hope India and Pakistan never use nuclear weapons on each other but let’s for a few seconds consider why this missile is a joke:

    60km range is pathetic. It doesn’t create any deterrence. It doesn’t create deterrence against Cold Start either. Think about it this way. If Cold Start works, which is perhaps a big if, they will have knocked out all potential deployment locales within 60km proximity to any major Indian population center.
    Given that almost all high population areas between the two countries are in Punjab and Kashmir, it means that the death toll/radiation impact on both sides would be awful. Even a strike delivered from 2km within the Pakistan hitting 58km away in India would have a massively negative effect on the Pakistani population near the border.
    India has a no-first use doctrine. Pakistan does not. Let’s play this out game theoretically. Pakistan deploys something that strikes in India. India launches full out attack and deploys nuclear arsenal on Lahore, Islamabad, Karachi. Pakistan is done. Over. Gone. Why would Pakistan do something so stupid?

    Pakistan’s army is clearly not very smart but they do great PR. This article is an example of that. They lose every war including against their own terrorists and go walk the world with a begging bowl.

    3.Recommend

  • Sonam Shyam
    Apr 21, 2011 - 7:00AM

    @Sannan, Well! I must say that I probably rubbed you and a few Pakistanis the wrong way. Your comments regarding myself and my views clearly show your ignorance. First of all what my comments have to do with my age and my gender? I would advice you to come to India and probably clear your biases and think beyond your official GHQ propaganda. Just google Operation Gibraltar and open your eyes as to what actually happened in 1965 war. Ayub Khan and ZAB tried to capture Kashmir and nearly lost Lahore in the process and you guys keep on boasting about your alleged victory. Whenever you want a reality check about your military prowess you can remember 1971 and that would be enough to bring you down to earth. Now your point regarding that your troops are not sleeping on the border. When did I say they are sleeping? All I said was what your own army fears about India. Your army Chief’s have consistently talked about India’s cold start doctrine and how India has the capability to split Pakistan down the middle. I have not added anything new. Your army’s theory of strategic depth in Afghanistan is also based on the premise that in case of conflict with India, your army can regroup in friendly Afghanistan with troops and weapons and launch counter attacks on India. Noted columnists like Kamran Shafi, have repeatedly pointed out the anomalies in this strategic depth concept and argued against the use of terrorists as a force multiplier. Besides this, your army has declared doctrine of “Nuclear First Strike” against India which is clear acceptance of their inability to defend Pakistan in a conventional war. Finally, you need to wake up with regards to your “Paper Theories” about the low yield nuclear weapons. Leave alone Pakistan, even highly advanced nations like US will be scared to use such weapons in a war. You people have readily accepted your army’s theories about tactical nukes when the world knows that Pakistan hardly has any domestic scientific prowess to master such critical technologies. Recommend

  • Singh
    Apr 21, 2011 - 9:20AM

    surface to surface multi tube ballistic missile Hatf IX (NASR),
    VS
    PSLV successfully places three satellites into orbit

    Which Option is better for future of country & its economy. You judge yourself.Recommend

  • cosmo
    Apr 21, 2011 - 9:23AM

    @Naveed:
    like Pakistan want to achieve India, India wants to achieve China and China wants to achieve USA, and USA wants to set more trends…its never ending. So please call your country a fool, but not mine.Recommend

  • Giri
    Apr 21, 2011 - 9:55AM

    WOW! Why do Pakistanis need such a big missile to kill the suicide bombers on the streets?Recommend

  • Giri
    Apr 21, 2011 - 10:02AM

    Pak Soldiers had to read Chinese manuals, but now they have to read Korean and God knows what language manuals they have to read next? May be Somali manuals?..God, i don;t wish even my worst enemy have to read the manauls. Heck, i don;t completely understand a English manual, they way they write..God forbid if they have to also read the legal documents in those languages as well..Recommend

  • Apr 21, 2011 - 10:46AM

    @Giri:
    This product and all such products are exclusively made for use to be used on India. I remember, Indian then Foreign Minister George Fernandez used to use filthly and abusive threatening Language against Pakistan.

    But once Pakistan detonated its own idegenious Atom Bomb successfully, not only George Fernandez shut his mouth (but has vanished not to be seen may be because of scared) but all Indian Guns which used to be active towards Pakistan Border were completely silenced because of surprise and scare.

    Proof that India attacked Pakistan in 1965 and 1971 is that after attacking Pakistan soil, Aakash wani (Indian mouth piece) and Indians talking over BBC used to claim that Indian will soon capture Lahore and have a glass of wine over the grave of Aurangzeb’s grave. My foot. Their claim has never subside and will Inshallah will never be full-filled. You check your own record which speaks of all such details that India was agressor and not Pakistan. But despite Pakistan being small in size and military gave a befitting response, which India cannot forget.

    And after equipping itself with Atom Bomb and its warhead missiles and F16 Planes, India has become a scary cat and has no other alternative to recognize Pakistan as its neighbour and coming to talk with us.

    We know how vulnarable India is. See the example of few terrorists (without going into details whether they were from Pakistan or not) they easily entered Mumbai Port on a Boat with immunation and played a hell / havoc in Mumbai with the lives of its citizen. Pakistan know what are the weaknesses of India and Indian Navy and Army. Dont worry we will fully capitalize all such factors if and when a war is imposed on Pakistan next time.

    Best of luck and enjoy – – – –Recommend

  • joy
    Apr 21, 2011 - 10:54AM

    @ Sannan]

    pakistan has won every war including the 1971 war, pakistan has won every cricket match including the world cup semi final, pakistan has won each and every football, kabbadi,baseball, ice hockey and what-have-you match against India....

    So,,can we talk peace now

    @ Dr Salim Siddiqui

    Sir…..pray tell me the population of Indian Muslims….

    and let me tell you this……for my fellow Indian Muslims the Jihad is against illiteracy, malnutrition, poverty…….coz they know they owe it to the future generations

    peace

    JoyRecommend

  • Apr 21, 2011 - 11:16AM

    @Singh:
    PSLV is only a means to transport a geo stationery satellite into orbit and has nothing to do with attacking with atomic war head. It goes straight above you. If you will use PSLV to carry atomic warheads, it will come back on to you – so dont every try it.

    Surface to Air and Surface to surface missible technology developed by Pakistan (much superior than what India has developed) will be fully capable to deter and or attack an enemy with high precision.

    We need to over-haul our old inventory of Atom Bombs as fresh stocks are being developed. So we need to try and use the old stock. Therefore, India should behave properly otherwise we are fully capable and ready.

    Regards

    Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
    Johannesburg
    South AfricaRecommend

  • joy
    Apr 21, 2011 - 11:42AM

    @ Dr Salim Siddiqui

    Sir,
    winter must have set in where u live. So you will have all the time in the world to read what I am going to tell you...


    you, I mean your country of origin is really blessed

    One country makes the roads for you, another the ports, some country comes and builds your schools, yet another country gives you petroleum produdcts, some nations shower you with arms, others fight the militants/terrorists on your behalf…..the list goes on and on… Ieft to you…see the plight of your countrymen affected by last year’s floods..

    India has a billion plus population and we have million plus problems..we acknowledge that and slowly and steadily we are resolving the issues..it will take time but we will do it
    We dont go to town blaming the whole world for our problems

    regards

    joy

    IndiaRecommend

  • Vicram Singh
    Apr 21, 2011 - 12:18PM

    @Dr. Saleem Siddiqi: – the problem still remains – you can not wrestle Kashmir from India and you can not improve your water situation IN-SPITE of building up an arsenal.Recommend

  • Ashutosh
    Apr 21, 2011 - 12:26PM

    By 2011-2012, India is to gatecrash into a very exclusive club of countries, which have both ICBMs (intercontinental ballistic missiles) and SLBMs (submarine-launched ballistic missiles) as well as BMD (ballistic missile defence) capabilities.

    Only the US and Russia strictly qualify for this club as of now, if all the three capabilities — ICBM, SLBM and BMD — are taken together, with countries like China not too far behind. Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Apr 21, 2011 - 12:28PM

    @Dr. Saleem Siddiqi:
    I say doc keep developing these weapons. We are very happy with whatever technology we have to send satellites. We are happy doing that. BTW this missile, if loaded with Nukes, can sincerely be used within Pakistan only. Reasons are simple.
    1. If used outside of its territory, it amounts to Nuclear attack and that invites a massive retaliation. In this scenario your “all weather friend” China will also not be able to stop that.
    2. If used inside Pakistan territory to halt assault of a small unit Indian Army (i.e if it enters Pakistan territory) which country is affected more?
    3. Cold war doctrine is essentialy to retaliate in case of another Mumbai like attack. This requires very small agile, highly mobile units. Can Pakistan afford a nuclear toxic landscape in its territory? Anybody who knows a little about these mini N devices know that their cost to benefit ratio is very high. Can Pakistan afford that or that too lies in hands of your faith?
    4. If you have not got the jist of it read about Fukushima disaster. Understand the economic cost.
    5. These weapons, at the end of the day, are just white elephants. But since Pakistan’s honour is linked to it, please develop them by all means.Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Apr 21, 2011 - 12:45PM

    @Dr. Saleem Siddiqi:
    Also look at the trajectory of yesterday’s launch. Am really surprised by your ignorance doc. Rockets just don’t go straight up. The one fired yesterday went down south across towards south pole. Just get your facts right.Recommend

  • Apr 21, 2011 - 1:20PM

    @Tony Singh:
    Missiles are tested for accuracy who will test Rocket. Looks like India may fire it for Pakistan but it may go to Afghanistan or Iran. Therefore test it for accuracy before firing it. Secondly, Rockets are not Atom bomb friendly and they cannot carry atom warhead. Probably you may like to fire your rockets during Deewali to celeberate your occassion.

    Secondly, we do not have Atomic plant which generate Energy for the the example you are quoting of Japan so we Pakistanis not to be worried. It is India who should worry more as US is assisting India to build many Energy plants in India which will be operated by Atomic energy. Keep US happy to earn few bucks at the stake of Indian lack of safety and hazards.

    @Ashutosh you are talking about future India may – – – India may become – – – Keep day dreaming there is no harm in doing so.

    @Joy
    Don’t try to hide behind Indian Muslims we can find find you with accuracy.
    Secondly, we love our Country Pakistan despite any and all odds you tried to pin down. You must worry for your own which is not the bed of roses either.

    Regards

    Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
    JohannesburgRecommend

  • double amaxed
    Apr 21, 2011 - 1:42PM

    wateva…….try us and well show what we can really do…….pakistan zindabaad pak defence forces paaindabadRecommend

  • Tony Singh
    Apr 21, 2011 - 2:05PM

    @Dr. Saleem Siddiqi:
    1. You have completely missed the point about my referance to Fukishima disaster. Read agin, understand and then comment. (let me give you a hint : its about low yield nukes have on environment, the one you plan on this missile.)
    Now that we have come to discuss technicalities, tell us what is circular error probability of this missile? (Its a jazzed up version of multi barrel rocket – nothing more)Recommend

  • Naveed
    Apr 21, 2011 - 4:47PM

    @All Indian Muslim who come in here to comment.

    (The roots of Muslim rage run deep in India, nourished by a long-held sense of injustice over what many Indian Muslims believe is institutionalized discrimination against the country’s largest minority group. The disparities between Muslims, who make up 13.4% of the population, and India’s Hindus, who hover at around 80%, are striking. There are exceptions, of course, but generally speaking, Muslim Indians have shorter life spans, worse health, lower literacy levels and lower-paying jobs. Add to that toxic brew the lingering resentment over 2002’s anti-Muslim riots in the state of Gujarat. The riots, instigated by Hindu nationalists, killed some 2,000 people, most of them Muslims. To this day, few of the perpetrators have been convicted.)

    excerpts from an article written by Aryn Baker of The Times/ Muslim Crisis in India.

    Although we welcome you to post comment on Pakistani Newspaper’s website….please don’t make yourselves look like a fool.
    BTW…the article was not written by Muslim/Pakistani/anti Indian, so believe it for a change.Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Apr 21, 2011 - 5:47PM

    @Naveed:
    Wish you could tell that to nukes on the missile. Stop this religious crap.Recommend

  • Sannan ZM
    Apr 21, 2011 - 5:49PM

    @idonthatepaki:
    Of course they wont write that 1965 war in your history books, I can understand why. Your generals who planned to have breakfast at Lahore Gym Khana club on September 6 1965 were not able to eat for rest of their lives, so evidently, they won’t write that in YOUR history but the world knows it. And these are our nukes, tactical or strategic, OUR missile short-range or long-range, what the hell are you guys doing here and expressing your concerns on our defense capabilities? Why dont you talk patriotic on your TOI??! We dont hate india, but you guys WANT us to hate you by stating your “how jealous and terrified we are” comments on our posts. Dont be bothered of what we are doing. We won’t hurt you, unless…Recommend

  • Pragmatist
    Apr 21, 2011 - 5:51PM

    @Naveed:
    You won’t get over you habit of trying to create more “strategic assets”, will you? Indian Muslims are much smarter and a great deal more literate to fall for a gag like that. After all, they are in India by their own choice.Recommend

  • avanti
    Apr 21, 2011 - 6:17PM

    @Naveed: “Although we welcome you to post comment on Pakistani Newspaper’s website….please don’t make yourselves look like a fool.”

    Look who is preaching! You guys have bombed 1000’s of Muslims in Mosques and shrines. Discrimination is all over. Women are stoned to death just because a guy doesn’t want one anymore. And your non-muslim minority? How is that treated?

    Thannk you for your concern, but please don’t make yourselves look like fool by commenting on Indian muslims. They are doing just fine, and we, non-muslims, will make sure that they receive the fair share of India’s resources. Recommend

  • joy
    Apr 21, 2011 - 7:13PM

    @ Dr Saleem Siddiqui;

    if you care to read my post carefully, I acknowledged that we have lots of problems in India and we are making efforts to solve them, its a huge country and with a diverse mix of race, religion and ethinicities,,the process of bound to be slow..but we will do it.

    BTW did you read the business section of this paper today

    this might interest you

    India offered cheap electricity to Pakistan on Wednesday to help overcome the lingering load-shedding problem.

    regards
    joyRecommend

  • Kewal
    Apr 21, 2011 - 7:37PM

    @Naveed:
    What is your point? Muslims in the Indian subcontinent are the converted underclass. Just changing into Islam will not solve their inherent issues.Recommend

  • Ik
    Apr 21, 2011 - 8:12PM

    Can this missile strike a drone?Recommend

  • Usman
    Apr 21, 2011 - 9:19PM

    @bvindh:dunno whether ur stupid or pretending to be stupid….but this missile has a range of 60km to roast ur forces when they cross the border…not 2000 miles from the border…but just at or across the border
    hope that helps Recommend

  • mo
    Apr 21, 2011 - 9:48PM

    @bvindh: Jealous Indians…your missiles keep failing even though the russian fund 80% of the research yet here is Pakistan fighting the Taliban and winning something a coalition of 50 countries in unable to do in Afghanistan.Despite being hit by record floods we are developing technology to destroy your cold start doctrine.

    For those of you complaining about high Military Expenditure. Schools and Hospitals dont keep the indians on their side of the border.Pakistan only spends 3% of GDP of Military.Pakistan does not have a spending problem it has a revenue problemRecommend

  • mo
    Apr 21, 2011 - 9:54PM

    60KM is a good distance in the short range surface to surface multi tube ballistic missile class.Pakistan has longer Range Missiles that can hit New Delhi, stupid indians and goras commenting,dont worry these are tactical nuclear weapons for when the indian try ‘Surgical Strikes’Recommend

  • Apr 29, 2011 - 2:23PM

    @saleem:
    Usury to international bankers is eating Pakistani people.Recommend

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