Afridi’s political ‘no-ball’

Published: April 5, 2011
Fans gathered outside Afridi’s residence to catch a glimpse of their superstar. PHOTO: REUTERS

Fans gathered outside Afridi’s residence to catch a glimpse of their superstar. PHOTO: REUTERS

The skipper of Pakistan’s cricket team at the ICC World Cup, Shahid Afridi, delivered a political ‘no-ball’. Forgetting the unwritten sportsman’s rule of not expressing political bias, he launched into a tirade against the Indian media, as well as the Indian people in general, on a TV channel, with audience members applauding him for ‘letting India have it’. He accused Indian TV channels of “worsening political ties between the two great rival countries”, adding that the Pakistani media was “a hundred times better”.

He also gave his audience the dubious satisfaction of hearing a piece of judgement directly out of Pakistan’s textbook indoctrination, something that his Indian counterpart MS Dhoni would never have done, given his better education: “If I have to tell the truth, Indians cannot have the kind of hearts that Pakistani Muslims have. They cannot have the big and clean hearts that Allah has given to Pakistanis”.

Notwithstanding his later remarks that his comments were taken out of context, what he said will greatly put off people on both sides of the border. Afridi opined: “It is very difficult for us to live with them or have a long-term relationship with them. You can see how many times we have had friendship in 60 years and how many times relations got strained”. He then made mincemeat of his earlier claim of being an ambassador of Pakistan by boasting that he knew what he was saying because of this special status.

How some Indian TV channels behaved during the World Cup is for others to judge. Their hate-laden ‘analysis’ was seen by viewers across the world, including in Pakistan. Mr Afridi should not have aired his own view of it, packaged with his completely gratuitous judgement of Indians as a people. What came out of his mouth was the brainwashing of India-haters who continue to block the road to peace in South Asia.

India and Pakistan have developed views of each other across decades of conflict. These are actually constructions of ‘the other’ that the world has learned to discount. Because of his preoccupation with his game, Mr Afridi was unaware that this mutually hostile rhetoric is taken outside South Asia with a pinch of salt, if not with ridicule. If he was trying to inform the world of any new discovery of India’s villainy, he should have saved his breath. If he was trying to inform Pakistanis of this villainy, he should also have saved his breath, because his cliché-ridden statement is already old hat in Pakistan.

Prime Ministers Manmohan Singh and Yousaf Raza Gilani knew exactly what the world outside South Asia thought of the bruising battle of words between India and Pakistan. Mr Singh invited Mr Gilani to the Mohali match knowing full well that the meeting will bring down the temperature raised in the past by the ‘ratings-seeking’ media on both sides. The world has not forgotten the India-Pakistan media war that took place after the 2008 terrorist attack in Mumbai. Later, the anchorpersons who had unleashed it were exposed as men and women of dubious ethics. The Pakistani captain got the significance of the word ‘ambassador’ wrong. Cricket players are pointedly called ‘ambassadors of peace’, not diplomats who often create bad blood where smoothing of the ruffled feathers is required. It is unfortunate that ambassadors exchanged between the two neighbours often represent hardline elements back home and end up perpetuating conflict. Skipper Afridi, one has to say regrettably, is perhaps one such ambassador.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) should reprimand Mr Afridi despite his popularity, because he has done the opposite of what the sport is meant to achieve. When the Olympic Games first began, they allowed competing nations to defuse their instinct for war and divert it to a more productive purpose. Athletes gathered in Athens from states often at war with each other, and the objective of the games was not to promote hostilities but to remove them through catharsis. What the Pakistani skipper has done tells us that the PCB continues to neglect its duty to educate its players in the decorum of the game. It needs to undertake this briefing, given the low level of education among our sportsmen.

Published in The Express Tribune, April 6th,  2011.

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Reader Comments (101)

  • John
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:18PM

    The comments of Afridi and the audience applause of his big heart statement are years of.
    “”Hindu Dhushman” education.

    If this is the view of PAK sportsman about India then what are his views of the west that he and his team are not sharing.?

    Shame on him by further justifying it by saying that his comments were taken out of context.

    All is talent means nothing now.

    Now we know why his team lost.Recommend

  • Faisal
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:25PM

    Wannabe Dhoni :)-Recommend

  • Idrees Kamal
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:27PM

    We hold a rally in Peshawar to pay tribute to Shahid Afridi that he did not win semi final but make history by winning the heart of Peace loving people on both side of the border. But after reading the above the interview of Shahid Afridi we think that he is am matured and brain washed. Recommend

  • Jawed Akhtar
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:30PM

    This shows the standard & level of education in Pakistan. Recommend

  • asad
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:32PM

    I think the last para of the article explains what we should do…the PCB really needs to educate the cricketers, they represent the country… I seriously didn’t like his comment…there is a need to promote peace & celebrities like afridi can do alot in this regard….educate the cricketers plzzRecommend

  • Jaydeep
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:36PM

    Afridi’s outburst took a lot of us in India by surprise. It was just a game, and the team which played better on that day won… His comments are most unfortunate and untimely> Its also a political ploy on his part to keep the light away from the fact that the team failed to deliver, though many of us in India thought they put up a fine performance…Recommend

  • Esprit
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:44PM

    The original interview that Afridi gave was not meant to be negative…

    The media that Afridi said was very negative is now proving to be true as they took his words out of context and fabricated it into some nonsensical story. I would say get over it, and move on. It’s petty issues like these which hinder peaceful co-existence. As for Afridi being fined for crossing the political line, I suppose the same can be said about Goutam Gambir. But really the point is the tit for tat type idiocy is what makes this so called hostility worse, and by showcasing news like this, in which a person who has always been gracious of India and its people does nothing to help in the bilateral peace cause. Perhaps, Afridi is right… until the media stops being so negative, it will affect the political tension that exists between India and Pakistan.Recommend

  • Ashraf
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:46PM

    Shahid Afridi is a great player but he is not captaincy material. But this begs the question of who has the right stuff to be made skipper in the Pakistani team. Can’t think of anyone who compares favorably with the Sri Lankan or Indian skipper. Our players lack grooming and/or integrity. There’s too much drama associated with them and their expressions of religious piety on the field which are basically a front for their money making proclivities. As for the Punjab CM’s award of Rs. 5 lakhs to each player it would have been better if the money had come from his own deep pockets instead of the public purse. That money could have been used on a lot of other things such as improving sports facilities in the province. Recommend

  • Srinath
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:53PM

    A remarkably candid edit and the suggestion to the PCB is spot on. Unfortunately, at the heart of the issue is, not one of articulation and etiquette but that of cultural ethos a society seeks to develop. Afridi appears to be more a victim than a culprit in this regard. Recommend

  • fouad
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:54PM

    boom boom afridi has done a good job in bowling and in captaincy,now india is worried about his performance therefore they dont want to miss any chance to criticise him.go ahead afridi we are with you.its right that indians are very narrow minded and educated ignorants.Recommend

  • sash
    Apr 5, 2011 - 10:58PM

    @Esprit: totally agreeRecommend

  • Bikku
    Apr 5, 2011 - 11:05PM

    What wrong did Gautam Gambhir do.You have to get your facts straight or your head checked. Gautam Gambhir dedicated the victory to Mumbai Martyrs. He never spoke, from where the terrorists came or who trained it, as the world knows who was behind that evil plan.

    Gautam Gambhir never uttererd any word that was political in nature only thing this poor guy did was to dedicate the victory to those Mumbai martyrs who were innocent civilians mascarred for the cause of a religion whose fundamental principle is hate of other religions and Mr. Afridi echoed just this fundamental principle. Indians are not surprised Mr. Afridi’s comments because you cannot expect anything good from an illiterate PakistaniRecommend

  • Pro- Afridi
    Apr 5, 2011 - 11:21PM

    Telling the truth is not wrong.
    If the Indian Media were harsh on Afridi it is totally alright to tell this to our own people. We on the other hand were hospitable when they came to Pakistan, So it needs to be both ways.
    It’s not about being illiterate at all!!!
    Afridi has made us all very proud and this article is really negative giving a total negative view of our national hero.

    I would like to ask – whoever has ritten this article-
    Have you forgotten the effort that Afridi did to took this (Useless- Untrained- and NEW) team to the Semi- Finals..
    Have u heard the answers which Afridi gave to the Indian press right after he lost the Match. Though his emotional state was not appropriate but he gave the BEST answers which one could give in that situation.
    He has made us all very proud and we should avoid writing such Articles to blame the Super Hero.
    Then I believe it is rightly said that our MEDIA portrays a very rong image of EVERYTHING
    like “Espirit” just said that Afridi said it in another context n it came out in a completely different context..!!!
    We shud avoid this “namak mirch lagana” and start stating FACTS!!!
    and Even if the Captain (After staying in India for so long and after answering their questions n all ) Came back home n said his heart out to his own people then there is NO HARM in it..!!!Recommend

  • ravi
    Apr 5, 2011 - 11:34PM

    whatever afridi has done now its time to think about future and with this match we both sides came closer and we just want peace and friendships. Recommend

    Apr 5, 2011 - 11:40PM

    Wonderful article and wonderful to see even in pakistan majority of educated people dont like his comment.This is the way how we can isolate any one no matter how ever big he is, if he is spreading hatred.Afridi will get applause from some but let me tell you not majority.Recommend

  • Suresh
    Apr 5, 2011 - 11:46PM

    PCB can not undo what state has done in education field.Recommend

  • shireen
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:03AM

    i m with u afridi, and i m against the Indian media who spread false rumors of match fixing against Pakistan, we were guests on thier soil, they should have paid some respect , it was our captain at the end of the match who was clapping for India and congratulated Indian crowed and whole nation, what they have done in response was curious , he has all the right to express his feelings. did u forget hoe unfairly they throw us out of the IPL. they insulted us every time , and we paid respect every time. i do not understand why people always always criticize our heroes. Recommend

  • hydbadi
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:20AM

    I do not see any issue with what Gambhir said.He just dedicated the win to the victims of Mumbai terror attacks.He did not say that it was a revenge for the terror attacks nor did he imply Pakistan was behind the attacks (although that wouldn’t be far off the truth )Recommend

  • Ani
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:57AM

    When in front of the world media, Afridi , like Musharraf and Yaseer Arafat (PLO leader), talk in English and portrays himself to be above hate. But in front of the local media, he speaks in Urdu with hate and bigotry. Yes, it is true that our creator only gave Muslims a “”good” heart. This is the truth as preached in Pakistan. Recommend

  • Bikku
    Apr 6, 2011 - 1:07AM


    We threw “Pakistanis unfairly”. Shireen for your knowledge IPL is Indian Premier Leaque and the BCCI can remove/withhold any player of any nation from playing because its an Indian affair. It isn’t Pakistani birth right.

    What’s unfair in it, after Mumbai attacks Indians did not want any Pakistani player to be part of it, so Pakistanis were removed. Its IPL and not India Pakistan Leaque. Start your own PPL and don’t allow Indians to play in it. You all know the outcome of that no foreign player will be part of it nor your PCB has the wherewithal to make it happen.Recommend

  • Seeker
    Apr 6, 2011 - 1:27AM

    His comment over Indian Media is justified. But his comments over Indian people as a whole cannot be justified at all. Recommend

  • Sheheryar
    Apr 6, 2011 - 1:29AM

    Thanks my Indian friend for pointing out our education problems but do they praise Pakistan and Jinnah in your textbooks?Recommend

  • sourabh
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:28AM

    @Sheheryar we do not praise Pakistan or Jinnah in our textbook,but we don’t criticize or compare them with us either nor we claim ourselves to be a better nation or better religion then others ,on the other hand I have seen your curriculum which is filled with biased comments against India and Hindus(some of that are very hurtful),mind it we never ever heard anything bad against Muslims in our text books… if you want I will show you your curriculum written and signed by your countrymen.
    btw your media itself wrote “He also gave his audience the dubious satisfaction of hearing a piece of judgement directly out of Pakistan’s textbook indoctrination, something that his Indian counterpart MS Dhoni would never have done, given his better education”
    btw I accept our media is sensationalist and craves for TRP but His gambhir statement was too much to digest.Recommend

  • Anonymous
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:47AM


    What do you mean by ‘rumor’ of match-fixing? Pakistani players have been charged in UKRecommend

  • ms. opinionated
    Apr 6, 2011 - 3:08AM

    i agree with seeker, but guys remember that if our politicians and higher ups can make huge muck ups and blunders, say wrong at times do wrong too, we should not go overboard in criticizing a fellow like Afridi. poor guy got carried away and said a little too much in justifying his position and thanking the people of Pakistan. everyone makes mistakes and are liable to err. he is only a cricketer. and he has had a good repute and displayed good character for over a while so this should be pardoned.

    furthermore, i think that the indians (not media) but the people should not over react to such a statement, if afridi calls you not as big hearted as pakistani’s -mind you that does not mean you are small hearted- please understand the difference, it doesnt make it true! why are you guys getting bitter and defensive as if it is his view that is going to classify you to the entire world?? take a chill pill and deep breath. however i must add that the indian media has fueled fire and i will stand by afridi on that (you guys know about the whole black stone ordeal and naming the match as perpetual war!!!) other than that i would urge all fellow Indians to let it go and depict your big hearted-ness!Recommend

  • John
    Apr 6, 2011 - 3:39AM

    Our text books do not praise Pakistan or Jinnah. They just say the truth as it is and leave the conclusion to the students. And we read more than one book to arrive at a conclusion.

    Same for Gandhi, Jefferson, Churchill, etc in case you are wondering.

    You miss the entire point. Now no one will remember Afridi’s performance in world cup, but his comments will be remembered forever and will always be attributed Team PAK.

    What did his team pray in the Mohali pitch, ” God give us victory over the infidels or God be with us and use us for your glory?

    From his comments I think he, at least, prayed the former prayer. Recommend

  • Steven
    Apr 6, 2011 - 4:47AM

    I smiled when I read Afridi’s comments. With wry amusement.

    Imagine if Ricky Ponting (now defunct) had said that Australian christians had bigger hearts than Pakistani hearts. Or Australians are more hospitable etc… ad nauseum.

    I don’t normally follow cricket – just football (i.e. soccer) – and I follow the English Premier League. I have sat in for a few games supporting my club and the abuse directed towards the other club players and supporters is not for the faint-hearted. Most of it is forgotten once the game is over, though there is a minority in each and every club who take it a bit further. Do I condone it? No.

    One should not tar an entire clubs supporters for the actions of a few and one shouldn’t generalise from the passions ignited inside a cauldron of a stadium to the entire club, or in this case, a nation and its people.Recommend

  • Steven
    Apr 6, 2011 - 5:11AM


    I do not know the extent of indoctrination in Pakistan, but having grown up in India, I don’t recall being ‘brainwashed’ with anti-muslim or anti-Pakistan propaganda. I was a nominal christian then (an atheist today), and I did study about the Pope and his minions. I don’t recall it being negative too. I’m sure there was (and is) bias against Pakistan but I don’t think it’s on your face.

    I think if there is any bias, it’s mainly due to the role of the media, political parties or organisations and/or the social milieu.

    Indian education system is influenced by its leftist traditions, more than anything else, though the BJP has tried to put its stamp as well.

    You will get a better idea by checking the following links:-

  • basanti
    Apr 6, 2011 - 5:42AM

    @Biku and @shireen
    Pakistani players were kept outside of IPL coz of the reason of Drug usagge and betting scandals that follow them.To tell u the truth pakistani cricketers cant be trusted and BCCI is not gonna spoil the brand name of IPL for Pakistanis.Its pure business.After 1st IPL Asif was caught with drugs in dubai.And Playing in IPL is not pakistani cricketer’s entitlement.coz its domestic tournament as biku has said.Its upto us indians to decide who should play and who should not.

    Secondly,I’m not surprised at Afridi’s “Pakistani large heart” vs “indian small heart” remark.If people remember Even sohail tanveer too said something to this effect ,”hinduon ki jahniyat…” (watch here: …..

    So nothing new in it wrt pakistani cricketers.

    Thridly, If Gambhir’s remar regarding Winning the world cup for mumbai victims rile afridi and other pakistanis then it just shows one point :chor ki dadi main tinka.Btw afridi is lying when he said on NDTV that gambhir said that he took revenge of 26/11.Its afridi who is liar as his words in different interviews proves it .its like he is thali ka baigan or lota.Recommend

    Apr 6, 2011 - 6:18AM

    @ Sheheryar

    Well I haven’t read anything in my school days against MUSLIMS or Pakistan or Jinnah as an EVIL -KUFFR ,I can vowed and say confidently because in my class we had Muslims ,Sikh ,Jain ,Parsi ,Christian ,Buddist,and Hindus students and we never ever feel uncomfortable with eachother company. and Our lunch box was shared regularly.

    Friend that is the difference between I and PRecommend

    Apr 6, 2011 - 6:22AM


    Sorry ,I forget to add Ahmediya ,Shia ,Sunni ,Vohra ,and we treat them all as good Muslims.

    Just so you know friend that also be not teach in your TEXT BOOKS.Recommend

    Apr 6, 2011 - 6:56AM


    Let me finish what i have started.

    As a Kid when we go to school ,First thing we all have to do is before we start our class to recite ,Bharat is my country and all citizen of Bharat is my brother and sister.

    Also Inour text book we have positive views about Jinnah and Muslims ,I have studied Many muslims freedom fighters in our text books, Not only about muslim freedom fighter but about AKBAR ,BABAR ,Shahajahan, yesi have fond memory of that part of our history,Akbar was protrayed as a equal Justice loving king.

    We Indian Proud of our Muslim Brothers and sisters. Many many Non Muslims and Muslims Kid looking forward to be next APJ Abdul Kalam , Many want to be like Zaheer Khan ,Munaf Patel, Yousuf Pathan ,Amir Khan , List will go on.

    Indian Muslims are a MODEL for Muslim community over the world,Indian Muslim suffered a lot because of Pakistani Muslims interpretation of Islam and Hatered towards India and Indians(Hindus).

    Before you point any finger against india ,Make sure three fingers are pointed toward you and ,we also have 200 M Muslims as our brother and sister , and we are immensly proud of them.Recommend

  • Agonised Uncle
    Apr 6, 2011 - 7:08AM

    You have done an excellent job of bringing a great publication to life in Karachi and in Pakistan.
    You have done an immense job of attracting a South Asia wide readership online.
    You have provided a very good platform for important and relevant topics to be discussed freely, without censorship.



    Please promote these threads at colleges and commercial hubs …
    do direct marketing. It is those minds and leaders who need to engage in these conversations.


    Not for slinging mud at each other and bringing down each other as on YouTube etc.
    But, to open ourselves to each other’s mindsets and notions.
    I sincerely pray to Allah almighty that you are listening.


    Will the moderator please forward this request to the appropriate person?
    Ek bahut hi zaruri iltejaa hai. Mehrbani kariyega? Shukriya.
    Sirf Aaapka,
    Agonised Uncle.

  • Agonised Uncle
    Apr 6, 2011 - 7:21AM

    I have seen Indian textbooks. They mention the partition of the United India into Secular India and a Muslim majority East Pakistan and West Pakistan. They do not denigrate Quaid E Azam or treat him unflatteringly or with disrespect.


    The textbooks in India on the whole do not play a communal double game … neither eulogising ‘Hindu’ leaders such as Shivaji or Prithviraj Chauhan, nor condemning any invader for being Muslim. The Indians, know that history is important. That lessons have to be drawn from it.


    Those Indians, who don’t and have political or fundamentalist agenda tend to force a ‘State’ (Provinces in terms of Pakistan) syllabus with a regional / parochial stance. The Central boards from New Delhi and the NCERT (The National Council of Educational Research and Training) seek to create a citizen who is pan-Indian in outlook and moral sensibility. MORAL SENSIBILITY. That is a huge undertaking.


    It is because of that most Indians who attend English medium schools remember first with dread, and then in more mature stages of life, the unique advantage of receiving instructions in a subject called MORAL SCIENCE. Therein, they are required to understand the beliefs and systems of their fellow classmates who invariably belong to different faith streams. Now, how forward thinking is that! Very!


    As a Pakistan abroad, I can see the impact of this. Here I meet Indians, who find it easier, much easier, than an average Pakistani to accept the difference of another person, his culture, his food habits. That does not mean they don’t have their own preferences and biases (and who wouldn’t or shouldn’t? They have their own beliefs and cultures in which they have grown up.) but they are able to find a middle ground by striking a compromise and not encroaching upon the freedom of the other. These are the basics which are required in any society.


    Allah knows, it is required in our country. If we had focused on this, instead of exclusivism, we would be far ahead. It is fast becoming a cliche, but I suggest you read again the August 11, 1947 speech by M.A. Jinnah and obtain a marker to discern, how far the Pakistani state and its citizens have strayed from his vision of a secular state. He would not be happy. Nor should we be. Recommend

  • Dennis Dey
    Apr 6, 2011 - 7:33AM

    John is a blasphemer, and in your beautiful and great Pakistan, you and a few others of your ilk could have demanded his execution. You should invite him to your home in Pakistan and then accuse him of blasphemy. The Blasphemy Law is Great Jinnah’s creation, and small-minded Indians can have no idea of Jinnah’s greatness.Recommend

  • nadir khan
    Apr 6, 2011 - 7:39AM

    I agree with the viewpoint expressed in the editorial. His comments were in pretty bad taste. It all comes back to a dire need for drastic overhaul in our curriculum, as well as restraint and a more prudent attitude when it comes to singers, artistes and athletes with an international – or ‘cross-border’ – stature.Recommend

  • nadir khan
    Apr 6, 2011 - 8:15AM

    I agree with the viewpoint expressed in the editorial. Afridi’s comments have once again betrayed our ‘holier-than-thou’ Paki mindset, highlighting the dire need for a drastic overhaul in our curriculum. Our artistes, athletes and sportsmen should adopt a more prudent and mature attitude, in keeping with their international / cross-border stature. Recommend

  • Ron(Indian)
    Apr 6, 2011 - 8:33AM

    Our textbook do not hurt feelings of pakistanis or jinnah. Please read our books and then talk… Yes, Indian muslims are against Jinnah for breaking India, dividing muslim community. They are not agree the concept called “Pakistan”. Other communities have accepted the “Pakistan” and feel safe today. This will change as time passes. ThanksRecommend

  • plal
    Apr 6, 2011 - 8:33AM

    When Afridi is saying that Allah has given big heart to Musalman only then he should also know that 3 players in Indian squad eg Zaheer Khan,Munaf Patel and Irfan Pathan were also muslim and India has more Muslim than in Pakistan.Recommend

  • joy
    Apr 6, 2011 - 8:41AM

    Mr Shahid Afridi

    henceforth…pls speak about the game and refrain from commenting on issues which are just not your forte

    Your are a gifted player…high time you became a sportsman as well


  • SA
    Apr 6, 2011 - 9:28AM

    @Bikku: Are you any different from Afridi? He hates and you hate, you’re one and the same :)Recommend

  • Cherish Raj
    Apr 6, 2011 - 10:27AM

    We do not praise Pakistan or your leader. But unlike you we do not spew hatred on a particular community even when 2 million of them live within your borders.Recommend

  • masroor pirzado
    Apr 6, 2011 - 10:35AM

    excellently writtenRecommend

  • ashok sai
    Apr 6, 2011 - 10:51AM

    Afte hearing his hate speech, we Indians felt fortunate to eliminated him from the IPL otherwise he would have triggered IPL-M(Muslims). Truly, this ball eater is not a captaincy material.Recommend

  • maynotmatter
    Apr 6, 2011 - 10:56AM

    @Sheheryar – not praising is not same as mud slinging. Indian text never praised nor did it ever said anything bad about Pakistan.

    @shireen – It was not Indian media but your own foreign minister who started the rumor or made any comment on match fixing. So please get your story straight.

    For Afridi, still his fan. It’s just his bad luck that his comment is getting so much attention since he is a celebrity. We Indians and Pakistani say far worse thing about each other daily, even on these blogs, dont we ? :)
    I guess we are just being over sensitive about the matter, everybody has right to have opinion, Afridi has one, it’s his right, we dont have to like / dislike it.
    Peace to Pakistan and IndiaRecommend

  • Gohar
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:08AM

    Why Gambhir didn’t dedicate World Cup victory to Mumbai Attack victims?why only Semi Final victory? he is a narrow minded person !Recommend

  • shireen
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:11AM

    @ MR BIKKU
    we didn’t let Mumbai attacks happened, we r the victim of terrorism, we got killed every in pakistan, even in our mosques, we r not safe. indians blame us for mumbai attacks, do we have a choice to blame any one for our slaughter, injustice, ,, tell me?

    we can only praise India,, they r very gud people, go and live over there dn’t live here MR BIKKu. Recommend

  • Ashwin
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:14AM

    @Sheheryar: Pakistan is not even mentioned in our textbooks,it is only about the Chinese Silk Route and some such things and 1857 revolt.Their is no mention of partition what so ever.We Indians get Know about Pakistan Only through Media and it’s Non-state actors.Jinnah is not revered in India neither is Nehru.Today we see India largely going to towards radicalization becoz of Politics and Pakistan’s establishments strategic policy.As for Politics radicalizing Indans. we realize it is not the way forward, that is why MMS is the PM as he represents development.We Indians today only believe in strong Economy.We Admire china for it’s progress. We are not a ideal society , but definitely moving in the right direction, it is only a matter of time when we move to the next level.
    @Editorial: Well written,but my view is Afridi is a victim of his perceived role in India-Pak Peace process.Sportsmen should remain sportsmen not a Diplomat, they are not trained for it.And he was my favorite bowler in World Cup 2011, although Wahab seems to be something promising. i would love India vs pak match, this time for cricketing reasons not politics.Also becoz i believe India is better side then pak in the current form so it be nice to hand a few defeats to pakistan :):).Defeat to pakistan with love from India what say guys? Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:20AM

    Can anyone who is thrown out of home of their ansistors praise Jinnah? What has Pakistan done to be worthy of praise? But our textbooks do not show Pakistan or Jinnah in bad light. At worst there is an element of indifference towards Mr. Jinnah and Pakistan.Recommend

  • Manoj
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:19PM


    Why India should praise Mr. Jinha, he divided the country on wrong assumption of two nation theory, which he and other elite muslims floated only to protect their own political power. Otherwise, when for 700 years muslims were rulling india, no muslim ever thought that Hindus and muslims are two nation and can not co-exist.

    Mr. Jinnah’s theory and assumption proved wrong by separation of Bangladesh and continuos military rule and relegious fundamentalism in present Pakistan.

    Mr. Jinnah’s only achievement is that he demoshished a composite culture of subcontinent and pitted inocent people against each other and mercilesly got lakhs of them killed before, during and after the partition.Recommend

  • Adnan
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:27PM

    I think before judging anyone, one should experience media on both sides and then decide for himself which entity is presenting a negative picture of other. There are lots of youtube clips in which Indian media have made bad comments on pakistanis both before mumbai attack and after.
    The way their common people were asking questions to Obama about pakistan does not depict a good picture of intentions. No matter what, no foreign visitor to pakistan makes any bad comments on india when he/she being in pakistan.Recommend

  • Malik
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:30PM

    Just a case of sour grapes. Afridi lost and he needs to divert attention of him to someone else so here it is the Indian media in Afridi’s firing line.Recommend

  • Subhash
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:42PM

    Shahid Afridi’s comment was immaturish & not in good taste. That’s all. Let’s get over it & move on having learnt some lessons from this fiasco.Recommend

  • Concerned Canuck
    Apr 6, 2011 - 12:53PM

    I think its about time, India and Pakistan grew up.

    Your mainstream media and government is run by money-hungry, greedy, corporations who only care about filling their own pockets.

    You people put too much emphasis on bs like this when areas all over your country are being bled dry by your greedy government, and the lovely media you adore, is being funded by foreign corporations who are turning your environment into mincemeat.

    You people waste time on mundane issues like this and screw your country over.

    Don’t come crying to the rest of the world, when you’re government bleeds your resources dry, and starts happily funding the rich.

    “Peace between our countries is strained because of the words of a Sportsman”. “So and so politician may have insulted us.” “This is the result of “India haters” “This is all caused by you Indians”

    Lets get something straight, both of you, are the biggest bigots in the world. India, your main news channel Aajtak, puts the USA’s Fox News to shame. And Pakistan, you really need to stop blaming India for every little thing. Indians and Pakistanis, if you care about your future, start using your brains for something more than becoming the next straight ace engineer or doctor only to export yourself abroad, and start using those brains to free the chains that keep you from achieving peace.Recommend

  • ms. opinionated
    Apr 6, 2011 - 1:25PM

    Guys, an indian in the other article made an excellent point where he said that the anchor of the tv show that started it all was really pumping afridi to give extremely patriotic responses and opinions to please the audience (which was evident in how they were applauding his every statement) and the usually cool minded lala fell prey to this and said way too much..Recommend

  • Love Pakistan
    Apr 6, 2011 - 1:30PM

    There was absolutely no need for this editorial because this piece has been written to spark a controversy, where there is no controversy. First of all a number of people commenting here don’t even know what he said and how he said that in that orignal interview. His words were taken out context and this really proves his point regarding the media because he was talking about the media not the ordinary Indians. For those who are concerned about this so called “unwritten sportsman’s rule”, I think Ravi Shastri is also a former sportsman and I did not see these people ganging up on him when he called Pakistani cricket team an autorickshaw while Indians, BMW. And this when Pakistani players were in India after a very long time. We do not treat our guest this way, yes we are not like them. Those bickering about Pakistani education and curriculum should do something about their own education because they are completely ignorant of what was said or done. Recommend

  • abhinav
    Apr 6, 2011 - 1:37PM

    I also commented against Afridi in some other threads. But on later thought, I think it is not as bad as it is made out of. It was more like a slip of tongue. He didn’t realize the outcome while speaking. It is like his habit of trying to hit balls going outside of offstump and get out.
    We can be little sad that he actually thinks in such a biased way (This is called xenophobia), but I think that is how most of the pakistani think and cannot be changed until they get good education and exposure to outside world which is a far cry looking at current situation.Recommend

  • Bikku
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:04PM


    Shireen I am neither interested nor a resident of Pakistan. Terrorists who are bombing Pakistan and its people are created by your state institutions based on a state policy of exporting terrorism, when the policy failed it boomeranged on you people. You cannot blame others for it. Even your govt has accepted the fact that Mumbai attacks were planned and carried out from Pakistan with the active help of some ISI members. Shireen you should be reading some good International or national newspapers rather than going with your madrassa viewpoint.

    When Pakistani people shower rose petals on the killer of Salman Taseer it shows how much degenerated the Pakistani society has become, which you are a part, it is folly on anyone’s part to think you will have sane view of the world at large.Recommend

  • Maria
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:17PM


    Think you take your ignorance as a bliss. Gambhir dedicated World cup victory and not semifinal victory to Mumbai Martyrs. I should ask whether you read newspapers or just sit in some teashop and hear what others say, to jump the fence for commenting. Never throw your filth around when some good Pakistani bros and sis are putting points to ponder.Recommend

  • Bikku
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:30PM


    Calling a spade a spade dosen’t mean I hate. If am hater, then my comments have received the most recommended voting, so according to you most of them who have read my comments are haters too !!Recommend

  • sourabh
    Apr 6, 2011 - 2:33PM

    please lets stop commenting on this… too much has happened and he said himself it was a mistake..whether or not he mean it or not.. lets not make pakistani people antagonize more nothing will change from commenting here ..i think 60 comments are more then enough to prove or putting a point, just stop commentingRecommend

  • SA
    Apr 6, 2011 - 3:56PM

    @Bikku: I’d like to quote a line from one of the comments above: Lets get something straight, both of you, are the biggest bigots in the world. Yes you’re a hater; self scrutiny and calling a spade a spade hardly ever come together. As for your recommended votings, another comment: BUT, 80% PLUS OF THE THREAD PARTICIPANTS ARE INDIANS! I’m not too sure about the figures here but yes I can see most of the people commenting here are indians :) I wonder if the borders have really divided the two nations!!Recommend

  • Apr 6, 2011 - 3:58PM

    All said and done we won the world cup!!! and if that means only mean hearted can win it so be it better a small hearted winner then a big hearted looser LOL!!!!Recommend

  • SA
    Apr 6, 2011 - 3:58PM

    @Dennis Dey: Congrats, you made the ‘lamest’ comment on this thread. You get a special reward for posting out of context and making us laugh! LOL!!Recommend

  • YLH
    Apr 6, 2011 - 4:11PM

    Dear Dennis Dey…

    Please do tell how blasphemy law is Jinnah’s creation given that he criticised even 295-A when it was introduced pre-partition. Atleast get your facts straight.

    Maybe you are confused… besides now we hear you too are introducing a blasphemy law for Gandhi after he was exposed as a racist.Recommend

  • YLH
    Apr 6, 2011 - 4:16PM

    Manoj mian your ignorance is appalling. Jinnah is the only politician in Indian history to be called the best ambassador of Hindu Muslim Unity.

    Your little comment about composite culture is old news… read H M Seervai’s “Partition of India Legend and Reality”… you will realise that it was Gandhi (also a racist btw) who destroyed the composite culture of the subcontinent.Recommend

  • Mateen Siddiqui
    Apr 6, 2011 - 4:39PM

    Remember the general law of Pak-India relationship: India is a big country like an ICEBERG. Pakistan is a small country like TIP of the Iceberg.Therefore any Indian action (which may look to them as very small) is an ICEBERG and any Pakistani reaction (which may look to Indian as very big) is only TIP of the Iceberg.

    What does it mean. Forget history of the last 1200 years. Behave like responsible neighbours. How much to blame each country if they do not heed, refer to general law above.Recommend

  • Sheheryar
    Apr 6, 2011 - 7:00PM

    To all the Indians: Since you guys are proving that there is no hatred against Pakistan or Jinnah in your textbooks (which I doubt) then I wonder from where your media gets the hate dose?

    About Pakistani textbooks, well they don’t teach hatred against any religion as people of different faiths (Christians, Hindus, Sikhs) also live here. It is actually the Kashmir dispute which resides in every Pakistani mind.Recommend

  • Bikku
    Apr 6, 2011 - 8:49PM


    Ya Christians, hindus, and sikhs live in Pakistan and so is blasphemy law to hound them. So many Hindus and Sikhs have come to India seeking asylum because of the good Taliban according to you people. About Christians the world knows the state of Christianity in Pakistan after Shabaz Bhatti’s murder.

    Kashmir. We have divided our Motherland for the sake of Islam who were invaders, now if you think we will give up Kashmir it will be your miscalculation. Every Indian from Kashmir to Kanyakumari from Gujarat to Kibithu villiage will fight and die not only Pakistanis even Chinese together. And I am from Southeren tip of India. You have not learnt any lesson from all these wars, its futile for Pakistan to follow Kashmir. Hands off Kashmir and live peacefully. Pakistan is not in a term to dictate and will never be! We call our nation Motherland, which is even superior to our gods. Jai Hind, Vandemataram.Recommend

  • Bikku
    Apr 6, 2011 - 8:57PM


    Its not the border that divide us, its the narrow mindedeness of Pakistani establishment that have divided us. We Indians have never questioned about all those wars with your country coz it was fought between armies and not like the Mumbai attack were unarmed civilians were attacked. Let Pakistan grow balls declare war instead of killing civilians According to your estimate 80% are Indians, so its clear a paper like this whose standard cannot be less than any International one is visited by less than 20% of Pakistanis. Then god knows standard of Pakistani society at large. Forgive me if I was strong worded, but I call a spade a spade. Speaking truth can be a blasphemy in your society not mine.Recommend

  • Ducky
    Apr 6, 2011 - 9:23PM

    Kashmir is not your property. And its not ours either. So you should try and withdraw your own hands before lecturing others. Kashmir deserves independence. Its not up to India or Pakistan to decide who gets what. You Indians are still sour about having your bharat mahan divided. Get over it, its been 60 years. Haha, sour grapes huh?Recommend

  • Rakib
    Apr 6, 2011 - 9:51PM


    You say: Pakistan is not even mentioned in our textbooks,it is only about the Chinese Silk Route and some such things and 1857 revolt.Their is no mention of partition what so ever.

    Wow!! You arouse curiosity…Only 1857 and no 1947-no mention of Partition? When did you go to school?1911? Where did you study? Agaribommanhalli,Kavaratti or Jhumari Talayya?Recommend

  • WR
    Apr 6, 2011 - 10:14PM

    I hate reading Indian comments. Full of hate and disgust.Recommend

  • John
    Apr 6, 2011 - 10:15PM

    I understand your feeling of being portrayed in negative criticism. But the reality is that the world is worried sick of PAK.

    The religious extremism that ZAB tried very hard to pacify has gone amuck and the religious passion has become religious terrorism and both religion and terrorism has become one. The present president of PAK himself admits as much, and however unpopular he may be in PAK, whatever he says is true.

    As far as anti- PAK questions raised with world leaders- the Indian youth of this generation memory is scarred by Kargil, parliament attack, Skirmishes in Kashmir, and Mumbai attack, whereas PAK youth memories and education are anti-India and all that goes along with it, now anti-US, anti-israel ( not sure how and when Israel became of enemy of Pak ) without regard to the truth, sponsored by the PAK state and PAK media.

    So the questions are bound to come up, especially when the world leaders visit India. It is untrue anti-india questions are not asked in PAK with world leaders. India is as much important in world politics as US, UK, China, France, Germany and Russia, leave alone economy. This naturally irks PAK politics.

    The present gov in PAK is trying a new course and it is welcoming at international level. Whether the same course will be continued by next Govt in 2 years is an important issue.

    The reason: In about two years the US, India, Afghanistan and PAK go for new election.

    Will the new gov ( same or different) in PAK begin to resonate Afridi’s comment in its policy then?

    That is why Afridi’s comment gets it’s significance, beyond cricket, especially after Mohil diplomacy. Recommend

  • Jagmohan, New Castle
    Apr 6, 2011 - 10:19PM

    If one captain is forced to lose the semi final of world cup and then another team is forced to lose final just to make sure India is world champion…..then tell me what will be going inside minds of those captains….one of them had an outburst on tv and the other relinquished captaincy…
    I know this comment will not be printd as it is against liberal approach…but these are hard facts….world cup was sold to might of indian economy……ICC and all other nations are now hostage to this billion population juggernaut………
    I am an Indian but I am ashamed at the the way we have been gifted the World cup by helpless and forced captains of Sub continent…………I still love the 1983 jialas of India…they were clean and they were true victors…I can only relate to them..
    The current bunch of Indians is nothing but lucky to have been playing in an era when Indian economy is eating away everything by hook or crook……..!!!!Recommend

  • Arijit Sharma
    Apr 6, 2011 - 10:30PM

    @Ducky: ” ,… Kashmir is not your property. And its not ours either. …. ”

    So you are going to free “Azad Kashmir” and Gilgit Baltistan, etc ?Recommend

  • sourabh
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:08PM

    @Jagmohan- from which part of India do you belong? Recommend

  • sourabh
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:09PM

    @Jagmohan- and wats your surname?Recommend

  • Vicram Singh
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:20PM

    @YLH: ” … Manoj mian your ignorance is appalling. Jinnah is the only politician in Indian history to be called the best ambassador of Hindu Muslim Unity. …

    Indians hold Jinnah responsible for Partition, Pakistanis hold Gandhi and Nehru responsible for the Partition. From from an Indian point of view, Partition was a good thing, so we thank all of these gentlemen.Recommend

  • Dr Mishra
    Apr 6, 2011 - 11:45PM

    steven above, your comment was superb- ‘ Imagine if Ricky Ponting had said that Australian christians had bigger hearts than Pakistani hearts. Or Australians are more hospitable etc… ad nauseum ‘

    Or imagine Dhoni playing in an imaginary PPL and coming back to India and saying- we hindus and sikhs have nice and clean hearts.

    Shahid your conduct saddened me.Recommend

  • Avanti
    Apr 7, 2011 - 2:19AM

    There are two things involved here. 1. Education, 2. What you believe in. The educated mass learns to become diplomatic, understands the consequences of an action, and hence, gets smart in hiding it’s feeling. Afridi, not highly educated, is not good in diplomacy, which means, he is more honest than many others in expressing his feelings.

    This is where the problem comes. Why should he feel that way? Because that is what he learned during his school years from his teachers, books, and friends. So, the problem is not what he said, but what he was taught during his developing years.

    This is one difference between India and Pakistan. Privately, an Indian parent may be teaching whatever to his kids, publicly, the kids are taught to respect human beings regardless of their religion, caste, or language.

    Unless Pakistan changes it’s “muslim superiority” complex and stops meddling with history, it is going to have serious problems which are so evident now. Recommend

  • Avanti
    Apr 7, 2011 - 4:32AM

    @Agonised Uncle
    This is the best comment I have ever seen in ET. You have said it just perfect. Appreciate it.Recommend

  • chandran
    Apr 7, 2011 - 10:27AM

    big hearted pakisthani muslims should have forgiven salman tasser and other minister and should avoid celebrating their killingsRecommend

  • Agonised Uncle
    Apr 7, 2011 - 11:33AM

    @SA: Brother, from Pakistani to another, I have posted about this ‘imbalance’ of interaction on another thread in this publication. The Tribune Express needs to attract more informed and intelligent participants to these threads. Not for some narrow online jousting and hurling verbal abuse as on YouTube, but to truly exchange thoughts and ideas. This can be done and must be done in a civil manner. This thread and forum is unique … except for the the islands which attract educated comments elsewhere on the web with matters South Asian, (,,, Recommend

  • Asad
    Apr 7, 2011 - 2:39PM

    Afridi is absolutely right!! Being an overseas Paistani and having worked with Indians, I certainly echo Afridis comments. Hats off Bro Afridi for being so frank!!
    Freedom of speech anyone? thought the Indians and Americans were great proponents of freedom of speech… why are Afridi’s frank comments causing an outrage on forums?
    You either believe in freedom of speech or you dont. You cant have it both ways. or you cant have a principle of ‘freedom of speech’ for ‘Americans and Indians only’ and ‘restriction of speech’ for Pakstanis.Recommend

  • Asad
    Apr 7, 2011 - 2:42PM

    Afridi is absolutely right!! Being an overseas Pakistani and having worked with Indians, I certainly echo Afridi’s comments. Hats off Bro Afridi for being so frank!!
    Freedom of speech anyone? thought the Indians and Americans were great proponents of freedom of speech… why are Afridi’s frank comments causing an outrage on forums?
    You either believe in freedom of speech or you dont. You cant have it both ways. or you cant have a principle of ‘freedom of speech’ for ‘Americans and Indians only’ and ‘restriction of speech’ for Pakistanis.

  • Adnan
    Apr 7, 2011 - 4:05PM

    this is exactly the way I feel too. Recommend

    Apr 7, 2011 - 7:25PM

    I feel Afridi got carried away in front of Pak media and gave some statements which he should have clearly avoided but realised the blunder made by him and issued clarifications to this effect immediately. This being his first blemish, should be condoned and we should show our large heartedness to forgive him rather than making this a issue out of it. The guy is a simple and loveable Pathan and we should not read too much on his statements as requested by him. May be, his most ardent and Oxford educated admirer, Imran Khan give him some tips regarding the etteqates and dealing with media. Recommend

  • Apr 7, 2011 - 8:07PM

    Afridi has mixed sports, politics and religion. He does not represent all these fields. He not only spoiled the friendship atmosphere but also embarrassed the Prime Minister Gilani who extended his hand of friendship to India. He proved to be an ambassador of spoilsport. Recommend

  • Bikku
    Apr 7, 2011 - 9:28PM

    Let me as an Indian tell you the truth we never want war with Pakistan. I don’t know how many as a muslim would understand me. We never want war with Pakistan, but when war thrusted upon us by word or deed by the ISI and army we cannot afford to go on defensive. Remember Kargil when it happened when the Indian Prime minister extended his hand of friendship. Hinduism is the only religion that says every religion is a path to god and every god by whatever name is being called is truth and the path to god leads to truth. one day before the semifinal there was such a bonhomie that I even got a Pak girl as a friend. Now we are daggers drawn at each other coz one man’s folly. Its a lesson to all my bros and sis on both sides of LOC we should take caution when we speak about each other. it takes just a word to create bonhomie and just word to declare war on each other. Going by the comments we are daggers drawn at each others throat.

    The british they did a wonderful job when liberating us they divided US to the very extent we bay each others blood rather the british blood who enslaved us.

    Leave Islam and Hinduism think as a human we both are from same ancestors and have both the same feelings. Recommend

  • Dennis Dey
    Apr 7, 2011 - 11:03PM

    So now its the British’s fault, is it? Let me tell you that the British ruled India as a whole for only about 200 years. They did not destroy Somnath temple and all the other destroyed temples in Mathura, Dwarka and Benares. They did not loot, molest and kill in comparison to those who ruled India for 1000 years. Instead, they unified India and gave it the means to compete today on the world stage.Recommend

  • Adnan
    Apr 8, 2011 - 1:47PM

    thats what Afridi is trying to tell Mr. its not pakistan who start giving problems. Example is the media behaviour during the world cup!!! its so straight forward. Pakistani media been so positive througout.
    Throughout the history India has instigated issues which lead to war or conflict. There are Pakistanis working or studying with Indians in Europe. 95% of the time its Indian who start making comments about things which create conflicts when they meet each other. This behaviour is leading towards a bad impression of Pakistan and its people all around.
    Whenever a foreigner who has an Indian friend meets with a Pakistani starts talking like Pakistan is villain in this conflict and then its Pakistanis who have to clarify each time. You understand the situation?
    what if a non Asian never talks to a Pakistan but has Indian friends? he will spend his life strengthening the thought that Pakistan is bad. While its not the case when someone has Pakistani friends!! Recommend

  • Tony Singh
    Apr 8, 2011 - 3:08PM

    @Jagmohan, New Castle:
    Since you know so much, please also let us the price paid!Recommend

  • Love Pakistan
    Apr 8, 2011 - 3:32PM

    @Agonised Uncle
    Those who are commenting are mostly Indians because the moderator is not interested in Pakistanis commenting here because the pakistanis know very well, Afridi’s comments were taken out of context. He said it about the Indian media.
    Instead of whining about our curriculum and captain’s remarks, those who are commenting here need to see the way our team ( a guest team) was trashed by the Indian media. What Ravi Shastri said about Pakistan team was also not very decent. Does this mean Indian curriculum needs to be changed too?Recommend

  • Dennis Dey
    Apr 8, 2011 - 7:42PM

    COOL OFF, PEOPLE!! As per latest news, Afridi is now begging to be included in the IPL, no doubt appealing to the suddenly-discovered “large hearts” of the Indian / Hindu sponsors … lets see where this goes.Recommend

  • Apr 8, 2011 - 8:49PM

    @Dennis Dey:

    Indian is ok, where does the religion comes in my dear (Indian/Hindus) ?

    Let it go wherever it is, dont pull religion, Mr.Dennis Khan !!!Recommend

  • Dennis Dey
    Apr 8, 2011 - 10:20PM

    @Ashok Sai:
    Afridi had commented that Indians cannot have as large hearts as Muslims and Pakistanis. Go to the recordings of his interview and judge. You are free to ignore his comment dragging in religion if you want.Recommend

  • Vinod
    Apr 9, 2011 - 5:22PM

    the way he poses with his chest wide and hands raised whenever he gets a wicket speaks about the class of the man. it is so disgusting to see him repeating it. his compatriots younus khan is a far matured and civilized cricketer than him. i had a chance to talk to younus khan for 3 mins and i walked away with a heartful of respect for the man. my whole opinion about pakistan took a u-turn seeing younus’ polite and friendly attitude. he even allowed me to take a snap with him. i felt he is very confident and positive about the game. for the first time, i and my cousins felt very comfortable with a celebrity and that too at an airport.Recommend

  • Ray
    Apr 10, 2011 - 1:59AM

    He took name of his country to be literally true.Recommend

  • peace
    Apr 12, 2011 - 1:37AM

    At least this discussion gave me a fair idea about whose more biased? i.e…Which government did their work better :)wry smileRecommend

  • White Dove
    Apr 12, 2011 - 4:15PM

    @Peace: Obviously the Government of that pure land which has been under a military dictatorship for more than half its existenceRecommend

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