Doctors’ strike: 22 patients die across Punjab

Published: April 3, 2011
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A file photo of an earlier protest by doctors. PHOTO: PPI

A file photo of an earlier protest by doctors. PHOTO: PPI

A file photo of an earlier protest by doctors. PHOTO: PPI Opposition leader blames ‘CM’s arrogance’ for breakdown of negotiations between YDA and government.
LAHORE: 

Doctors across Punjab continued their strike Sunday, while unattended patients continued to suffer at hospitals across the province. A total of 22 patients have died across Punjab due to the strike.

Three more patients died in the Nishtar Hospital bringing the death toll in Multan alone to 17, while a patient died in Faisalabad in the morning after being denied medical care.

More than 700 protesting doctors have resigned so far, as the Punjab government has refused to give in to their demands.

The Punjab government has recruited 300 fresh doctors and ordered the Heath Department to issue suspension letters of striking doctors by tomorrow morning. The president of Young Doctors Association has been sacked and 60 post graduate trainees have been suspended as young doctors refuse to call off their strike.

The provincial government has also issued show-cause notices to 84 protesting medical officers. A government’s spokesperson said the sacked doctors would be barred from practising privately or in public hospitals across the province.

Sources say that senior doctors have also gone on strike to support the young doctors. Only two doctors are on duty at the Allied Hospital Faisalabad.

The General Body of the Young Doctors Association has refused to call off their strike until their demands are met.

Blood is on Shahbaz Sharif’s hands says Riaz

Opposition Leader in the Punjab Assembly Raja Riaz said on Saturday that he would seek to lodge murder cases against Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif because he was responsible for the deaths that occurred during the ongoing doctors’ strike.

Riaz told The Express Tribune that Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) workers would collect data from each hospital about deaths during the strike. They would also reach out to families who had lost loved ones and put them in touch with party legislators to help them seek legal remedy. He said that he would visit police stations personally and seek to get cases registered against the chief minister. If the police refused, he would move the Lahore High Court, he said.

Law Minister Rana Sanaullah brushed off the threat, saying that he hoped that the opposition leader would not object if cases were registered against the federal government over deaths in federal government hospitals in the Punjab.

Blame it on Sharif

Riaz said that the escalation of the standoff between the provincial government and the Young Doctors Association was all down to Sharif. At 4pm on March 31, he said, the YDA Punjab and Senior Advisor Sardar Zulifqar Khosa had reached a deal to end the strike.

The two sides signed a agreement, Riaz said, adding that he had seen a copy of it provided to him by the YDA. He said it was agreed that the chief minister would announce the deal at 9pm that same day. Meanwhile, he said, the YDA announced that the strike was over.

But before 9pm, Riaz claimed, the chief minister was “deliberately misled” by Health Secretary Fawad Hassan Fawad about the contents of the agreement. “Sharif always relies on the briefings of the bureaucracy. He thinks they are the only ones who can solve the problems of the province,” he said.

He said that a YDA Punjab delegation went to the chief minister’s officer at 90, The Mall, to meet Sharif. But when they got there, they were told the meeting had been cancelled. The YDA Punjab called Khosa, but he did not answer his mobile phone, Riaz said. Later that night, the YDA Punjab announced the resumption of their strike.

“The chief minister is very arrogant; he thinks he’s a Mughal emperor. He snubbed the YDA Punjab and because of his stubbornness, dozens of patients have died,” Riaz said. “It’s in his psyche to solve every problem through brutal police torture.”

He added that he would ask the Punjab Assembly speaker to summon the chief minister to attend a special session of the assembly on the issue.

Law Minister Sanaullah said that Riaz’s statement had “exposed those behind the doctors’ strikes” and that his party would suffer for bringing doctors into politics. He said that Riaz should not talk about the doctors, but answer questions instead about the “petrol bomb” the federal government had set off.

Published in The Express Tribune, April 03rd, 2011.

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Reader Comments (75)

  • Your Supporter
    Apr 3, 2011 - 10:59AM

    O,the healers!!! You work hard,you secure top positions in exams,you study day & night for 5 years in medical colleges,you make doctors.You do prolonged hours in hospitals whole heatedly but you are paid peanuts.A foot constable,a clerk or dispenser earns more salary than you at the end of the month. THAT’S A PITY.

    You are treated like slaves and servants by corrupt politicians and bureacrats.You are threatened with suspensions and legal actions. You cannot compete with quacks if in private practice enjoying the patronage of corrupt government administration and politicians.

    If government is bankrupt and you cannot be paid decent salaries,it’s not your problem;it’s public’s problem who elect corrupt politicians to government who in turn plunder the country.Masses need you,they ought to change themselves and elect RELATIVELY honest peolple to the government,if they want medical facilities and treatment and your total devotion to the profession.

    If they cannot feed you,mind you their are heaps of opportunities in UAE and elsewhre with deent salaries.If the state fails in it’s obligations to the professionals and skilled citizens,it’s bound to lose them. Doctors are in shortage everywhre but no country treats them like yours.

    Pakistan Medical Association has failed as doctor’s union.I don’t see any support for you from them so far. Professors and others in profession have not registered any support for you either for the fear of losing jobs.This means a further decline in the profession in the years to come.

    On a separate note,I would urge public not to send your children to medical schools unless you can afford to send them abroad. Their lives would be ruined.They would never get what they deserve in life.Look into other avenues if you child is bright;at least you won’t see them protesting for a living.Recommend

  • Pakistani
    Apr 3, 2011 - 3:35PM

    Go to Hell the Psuedo Maseehas !Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 3, 2011 - 3:42PM

    It is not the right way to present the demands, the blood is not on the CM while on that doctors who are directly responsible for these deaths. Why they take admissions, why they take oaths for the services of mankind. All are useless, the doctors are not now the doctors rather they have become the professionals and note-minting machines. Recommend

  • merium azmi
    Apr 3, 2011 - 4:12PM

    I totally support the doctors, they have the right to earn a decent amount and feel content with their jobs. I am so proud that they have stood up to fight for their rights, if only we were all united no one can take our rights away from us, this is so amazing that every one is supporting each other and showing compassion for each other. Good luck, i really hope your demands are met.Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 3, 2011 - 4:22PM

    these are not doctors, healers… They are shameless and merciless killers.

    Boycott them…Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 3, 2011 - 4:31PM

    these are blood drinking draculas. not doctorsRecommend

  • rakam
    Apr 3, 2011 - 4:33PM

    I’m the Doctor,
    People call me saviour,
    and YOU call me, the killer…
    I was born to serve humanity,
    and YOU are dragging me to ruinity,
    …I’m blessed with immortal intelligence,
    and YOU are wasting me, by YOUR negligence,
    I am taught only to save life,
    and YOU are killing me by Poverty knife..
    I am a patriot, wanna stay at my homeland…
    And YOU are making this country for me a NO LAND….
    YOU ask me why I am on road…
    …It’s Only because I don’t wanna go abroad..Recommend

  • Ajay
    Apr 3, 2011 - 4:33PM

    Didn’t realize that Pakistani doctors are so stupid and lacking in both common sense and empathy. Nowhere else in the world when doctors or nurses strike, they ignore the emergency. Here in Pakistan 22 patients died already. Instead of the government, the Pakistani people should roundly condemn these so-called doctors and make sure that their demands are never fulfilled. They should all be sacked.Recommend

  • Truth_Prevails
    Apr 3, 2011 - 4:33PM

    Shameless totally shameless and barbaric!!!! You are not young doctors but young murderers. How can you let people die in front of you? There are ways to protest for your demands. How can you ever lock up an Emergency Room? How can you do that????? You know what will happen now? One of the victims’ relatives whose whole world gets lost because of your uncivilized methods of protest will get hold of some weapon (AK47 etc.) and he will make sure to send at least a few of you to Hell non-stop. You are provoking rather converting poor people to criminals.
    All the stirke-leaders should be fired immediately and criminal proceedings initiated against them for murder. Opposition, for instance Raja Riaz “this is a shameless and cheap way of political scoring”. Punjab Government “if you have no clue how to fix this problem, dissolve your government…maybe you guys are not worth it”
    @Your Support: It goes without saying that you are one these shameless mercenaries/angles of death.Recommend

  • raheela
    Apr 3, 2011 - 4:38PM

    ” Blood is on Shahbaz Sharif’s hand” i agreeRecommend

  • Ajay
    Apr 3, 2011 - 4:45PM

    The right way to deal with a irresponsible chief minsiter is to for PMAto take him to court and create awarenesss in the country about this CM. If PMA is in the pockets of CM, then doctors should disband and reconstitute it. But they can’t do a wrong thing by not manning the emergency wards. YOu are compounding one mistake by another mistake. In the end you as a people are responsible for sending Sharifs to the government. If the elctoral system is broken because of captive votes (serfs captive to their feudal lords) and rigging, then you have to wait for a revolution to change the system. Those who can support you but not supporting need to take the risk and come out in the streets in yoru support. How come so many come out on the streets in support for a Qadri or against Davis?Recommend

  • Madiha
    Apr 3, 2011 - 4:47PM

    Doctor is a noble proffesion!! 4 Godsake…y u punishng the poor citizen ?? U ppl take oath on being a doctor bt ur cold hw cn u let sum1 die jus 2 fulfil ur demands! Datz inhuman !
    P.S im nt suportng d corupt govrnment those dogs jus kno hw 2 play wid d situatn! Bt plz ve a heart y u makng a commonr suffer:o chalk out sum othr way ov protestng plzRecommend

  • asif khan
    Apr 3, 2011 - 5:03PM

    the real faces of these greedy doctors are now exposed.they become doctors by receiving subsidised education off taxpayer’s money & then after using & abusing the govt. provided subsidised education they blackmail the govt. to give them exorbitant salaries.

    the govt .should not surrender before these greedy doctors,their MBBS degrees should be cancelled.First they received cheap,subsidised education & now they are refusing to treat the public of whose taxes they first became doctors.Recommend

  • Salman Orangiwala
    Apr 3, 2011 - 5:16PM

    @ rakam

    “I was born to serve humanity,
    and YOU are dragging me to ruinity ”

    Nice poetry ( Read : Joke )

    You were borne to serve humanity .LOL .
    The Doctors of Pakistan just serve the much materialistic object ie “money”

    25 poor souls just went into oblivion in an ICU , 25 yards away from where you have been staging in .You could have saved them , had you just moved your %^**X$%^& to the ICU for an hour or two .

    Say ,even if your pay is raised , would it ever cross your conscience that the dough is
    stained with he blood of that toddler Alam Din who died on his poor mothers lap in YOUR ICU unattended ?

    Nope , you are a “doctor ” , after all . Recommend

  • Amer
    Apr 3, 2011 - 5:27PM

    I agree that the right mode of protest is not being used by the doctors. They should take the responsible people to court and get their demands ful filled there, I see no reason to close emergency rooms etc. But has anyone asked what their demands are in any case?
    Isn’t it a fact that they get paid peanuts? or is it not true that they have to suffer countless long hours and their working conditions are crazy as hell? I could on and on with listing the reasons but the people who put the blame on the doctors are just not looking at the whole picture.Recommend

  • Not a doctor.
    Apr 3, 2011 - 5:40PM

    @Truth_Prevails: Your comment is shameless and CRIMINAL to say the least! You have no right to threat someone with a AK47 etc. When you start doing that, there is no difference between you and the target killers & TTP etc. Get some sense or shut up!Recommend

  • faraz
    Apr 3, 2011 - 5:57PM

    Most of these murderers will leave the country and get jobs abroad after getting cheap education on tax payers moneyRecommend

  • joy
    Apr 3, 2011 - 6:01PM

    it should not have been for me to comment on the news item..but I remembered a similar situation here in my country , India ( dont remember the state where it happened)
    the state high court took suo moto notice and directed the doctors to resume work…..and needless to say,,,,,,the doctors obeyed…

    joy
    Recommend

  • aaaa
    Apr 3, 2011 - 6:02PM

    we pakistanis are the people who disgrace our national hero DR ABDUL QADEER KHAN and made him a priosner and disrespectful. doctors should be hanged because they are CREAM OF NATION, our nation only respect singers and lotarays. we deserve it. shameless leadershipRecommend

  • ASQ
    Apr 3, 2011 - 6:22PM

    pakistani doctors are best at every thing except giving quality treatment.i can assure everyone that even if their demands r meet common people r still going to be treated like animals by these doctors!Recommend

  • Apr 3, 2011 - 6:33PM

    Punjab CM is responsible for the death of patients during Doctor’s strike. Supreme Court is requested not to be a silent spectator in this matter.Recommend

  • ayesha
    Apr 3, 2011 - 6:37PM

    being a doctor myself i can only say dat those protesting in punjab r anything but doctors ………….howcan a doctor see ppl dying in fonrt of him and dont help them this means He has no Compassion or love or respect for human life ………u know in the not so old days it was said a doctor wudnt refuse to treat even his enemy ……….here in gov. hospital only poor ppl cum those who cant afford the private hosp. if these docs r so materialistic y dont they work in the private sector were hosp.management makes u loose ur sweat n blood for every penny u earn in comparision to govt setup where u can loose ur job so easily…..u can skip duties n hey u can even run ur clinic in the evening…..
    Please Note : the current pay scale of doctors in punjab is highest in the whole country already…….its a pity to know that thses inhuman creatures call themselves DOCTORS!!!Recommend

  • khurram kaleem
    Apr 3, 2011 - 6:39PM

    I cant belief that people who have been subsidezed to become doctors in this land of pure are so ruthless.How can a doctor refuse treatment to patient.

    These buthchers should be kicked out of the country.Recommend

  • faraz
    Apr 3, 2011 - 6:59PM

    Pay rise from 20,000 to 90,000. Are you people in your normal sensesRecommend

  • ABU
    Apr 3, 2011 - 8:26PM

    @rakam:

    But this does not mean that you let people die my friend. Allah is is not ignorant what you people have in your minds and hearts.Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 3, 2011 - 8:46PM

    @aaaa:

    Correct yourself, Dr AQ Khan is not a medicine doctor. He is a PhD in Physics..

    These people who are killing other people for money are anything but doctors. They are ruthless draculas. They are willing to kill for money.

    These people use nation’s resources to become doctors, and then forget in haste of earning money that they owe them.

    The best solution is to socially boycott these animals.Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 3, 2011 - 8:49PM

    @merium azmi:
    Then join target killers in Karachi. They do the same thing which you are doing right now. if you prefer money over honour then their are other professions as well.

    Do something else, but do not waste nation’s resources on your blood thirsty desires.Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 3, 2011 - 8:51PM

    @Your Supporter:

    You forget one thing. You become doctor from people’s money. It was the natioanl resources which bear ur costs of study.

    A person who allows others to die just to get his demands fullfilled,he is not a a healer. He is just a butcher.Recommend

  • DrSarah Zaka
    Apr 3, 2011 - 9:31PM

    yes people are dying and all blame goes to the govt .remember Hazrat Omar Farooq RA said “even if a dog dies due to hunger at the bank of river Farraat o omar ! you would be held accountable for that” so why dont the ailing and suffering humanity ask these govt officials for their suffferings.i wonder why are they not protesting.why are they silently going back to their homes.they should raise their voice and raise it loud.the reason behing this is the yrs of our brain washing that we have to be silent sufferers ,we ae not to speak ,we are not to ask questions,and thats what we doctors were doing for so many yrs and finally when we have managed to raise our voice the blame and pressure tragically is put on us the sufferers tthemselves.This is not fair at all.I would request the media to play their vital role here [email protected] Supporter: Recommend

  • Ch Allah Daad
    Apr 3, 2011 - 9:40PM

    Come on Doctors, don’t take singles. Go for a big shot, like terrorists at Sufi Shrine in D.G. Khan. Whats the diffenece between religious fanatics and money fanatics like you. Recommend

  • Musa
    Apr 3, 2011 - 9:43PM

    we have every right to protest. And doctors protesting will surely mean them not working, which will ultimately lead to deaths. We’re so important to the society, without us they start dying, that’s all the more reason for a quicker response from the govt.

    I’m waiting for the tome when the CM needs medical attention and there won’t be a doctor for him here. Only then he’ll learn to respect our worth.Recommend

  • Musa
    Apr 3, 2011 - 9:48PM

    I dpnt at all like these YDA people. When we had our protest against the principal Ijaz Shah at Quaid e Azam medical college, Bahawalpur, they supported the principal instead of us. But I do respect their right to protest. Everyone has the right to speak up, even if that means people dying. If we’re that important for you, learn to respect us first. We are humans too, have families to feed to, a mere reason of ‘people dying if we won’t work’ won’t make me work if you’re paying me in peanuts. I have a choice. A choice to do what I want to.
    I studied on an open merit seat without any contract of serving the govt, if I don’t wanna work for the pay you’re giving me, I won’t. Let them die. Its none of my concern. Recommend

  • Dr. Adnan
    Apr 3, 2011 - 10:19PM

    Well the only thing I would ask every single one who is opposing us that go ahead can you pay your bills and your kids school fee and house hold food budget for 22,500 PKR … if anyone tell me yes they can I would salute you … stop telling me all the BS that omg caring for people is not our priority it is … but we didn’t got this medicine degree for you … we got it for our own betterment of our life. If we don’t want to work who are you to make us work. Pay us what we are made off … we can’t live on the streets and diagnose you that wasn’t our plan when we spent our whole 5 years of hard study and tuition fees ! huh STUPID PEOPLE !Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 3, 2011 - 10:27PM

    @DrSarah Zaka:

    That does not make doctors innocent. But instead that makes them ruthless, merciless money fanatics who can go to every limit for their demands.

    I wonder what will happen when people who are suffering take their revenge from doctors. Surely, common people whoes beloved ones are dying have every right to protest against doctors. Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 3, 2011 - 10:29PM

    @Musa:

    So you are waiting for people to die. That makes you a doctor. But surely not a human. What is difference between a doctor and animal then. You answer me…..Recommend

  • rehman
    Apr 3, 2011 - 10:31PM

    I’m the Doctor,
    People call me saviour,
    and YOU call me, the killer…
    I was born to serve humanity,
    and YOU are dragging me to ruinity,
    …I’m blessed with immortal intelligence,
    and YOU are wasting me, by YOUR negligence,
    I am taught only to save life,
    and YOU are killing me by Poverty knife..
    I am a patriot, wanna stay at my homeland…
    And YOU are making this country for me a NO LAND….
    YOU ask me why I am on road…
    …It’s Only because I don’t wanna go abroad..Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 3, 2011 - 10:31PM

    @Dr. Adnan:

    If you did not want to serve country then payback the costs of your study to state. You are responsible to people they have paid your study costs. Recommend

  • Imran
    Apr 3, 2011 - 10:33PM

    Good Governance? Excuse me? For the first time I agree with Raja Riaz. This cheapster, named Shahbaz Sharif considers himself Mughal Emperor, and considers the doctors his bonded subjects!Recommend

  • Dr. Adnan
    Apr 3, 2011 - 11:00PM

    @Ahmed .

    Well my brother you are pushing the edge here … You are not even a doctor and neither you have gone through the hectic life like we go through every day. I believe no one in your family is a doctor so you have no idea how it is ! … Stop your intervention and let us deal with the govt. Your opinion is just hurting a cause which you don’t understand at all. Recommend

  • John
    Apr 3, 2011 - 11:47PM

    Just because they are doctors, you can not expect them to work for less than what their counterparts in other professions gets in PAK.

    Can you do the same if you are a barber, mechanic, etc.

    Education and public health services are the first two services ignored by Govt when it is broke because these two services do not generate revenue to the Govt.

    The first sign of bankrupt gov is delaying the salaries to the government employees. Recommend

  • Imran
    Apr 3, 2011 - 11:48PM

    Shameless Punjab government is hiring “compounders” as doctors…. No wonder why Sharifs go to London for their own treatmentRecommend

  • ovais
    Apr 3, 2011 - 11:59PM

    @Ahmed:
    if u are so much against doctors then better to take admission in a medical college and become a doctor to serve theis nation then i ll see hw u can serve in hospital day and night without pay. u shuld be ashamed of urself for blaming doctors who were protesting peacefully for one month ad u didnt bother to ask govt to fullfill rightfull demands of doctors and nw when we are forced to withdraw our survices u are blaming us. shame on u. u deserve even worse rulers than current currupt politician and surely u wont speak a wrd against them too.Recommend

  • pakdoc
    Apr 3, 2011 - 11:59PM

    we love you brave docs continue strike till you achieve your goals if government still does listen resort to other means like main road blocks and traffic jams people of PUNJAB are with youll Recommend

  • ovais
    Apr 4, 2011 - 12:05AM

    @Ahmed: if an employ doesnt want to work for an institute u cant force him or blame him for institute’s failure to perform. so if doctors dont want to work no one can blame them. govt can terminate them all. its govt duty to provide healthcare not doctors. so if a doctors is not willing to work govt has to replace him. its simple. and if 20000 doctors arent willing to work govt has to replace 20000 doctors simple. and if govt cant then they have to fullfill doctors demands. so why u blame doctors . use ur head u foolRecommend

  • let there be peace
    Apr 4, 2011 - 12:27AM

    few years back we had a resident doctors strike in mumbai. it is natural tendency of people to put all blame on striking doctors and governments know this. the striking doctors had to try a lot through friends in media to get their side published in at least a few newspapers. also ran “parallel OPDs” in tents outside the hospital. Recommend

  • Tariq Ahmad
    Apr 4, 2011 - 12:48AM

    It seems that no one in Pakistan wants to pay any taxes. From the rich industrialists, to the shop keepers. The land lords they don’t want to pay. So it seems that everyone looks to foreign aid to solve the issues in Pakistan.

    The rich in Parliment all drive BMW and Pagaros and all claim poverty on their income tax. What a shame. This country deserves what it gets. Recommend

  • ASQ
    Apr 4, 2011 - 1:16AM

    @Dr Adnan’s comment “stupid people” pretty much sums up how doctors look upon ordinary people.i always wonder why people become arrogant when they get some kind of degree especially mbbs.the only thing docs gona get out of this whole blackmailing is more thrashing by patients at hospitals and i m not gona blame them for their behaviour.Recommend

  • paindo
    Apr 4, 2011 - 1:19AM

    Fie upon the doctors, their blind supporters and the Punjab governments as well. All of them should be punished for their shameful attitude. PPP and JI, by supporting the strike,are playing with the galleries. Common man is badly suffering while they are busy in point scoring against each other. Recommend

  • Apr 4, 2011 - 2:05AM

    Why does it all happen in Punjab only?…Recommend

  • dr adnan
    Apr 4, 2011 - 2:18AM

    @Ahmed:
    sir we also want to serve the country rather then run abroad……..its very easy to say that serve humanity without pay…..one shud try to work one day without money then he will realize the real problem young doctors are facing.Recommend

  • Ajay
    Apr 4, 2011 - 7:24AM

    @dr adnan:
    It is about doing things the right way. Money isn’t the only driving factor. Look at the example of Japanese workers sacrificing their lives by going into the stricken nuclear plants.Recommend

  • Sania
    Apr 4, 2011 - 7:33AM

    CM Punjab shoul be tried for murder and worst human resource management. Recommend

  • Boota Khan
    Apr 4, 2011 - 9:18AM

    I see many people cannot differentiate between doctors who are on strike i.e young doctors employed as interns and medical officers in govt hospital and basic health units and specailsits making big bucks as well as private practitioners who are earning enough and sometimes resorting to unethical maens to poach their patients.

    These junior doctors are the ones who are suffering not others.Senior doctors who do not support these doctors should see patients when the former group is on strike.

    Als,how come bureacray will tolerate a junior doctor receiving more pay than an assisstant commissioner or ASP etc. Pakistani society in fact hates doctors.Shahbaz Sharif has a history in this regard.

    Jab pait main kuch no ho….one forgets ethics and standards of morality. Parhay likhay youngsters dakoo kiyoon ban jatay hain? Pait kay liye…….

    I would suggest Pakistani public should bring social changes whenn it comes to electing their representatives and govt. Otherwise……yahi kuch chalta rahai ga aur akhir kab tak……Recommend

  • ASQ
    Apr 4, 2011 - 11:02AM

    @ dr adnan no one is saying that doctors should work for free or peanuts but the main point is if doctors think that they r not being paid enough in gov sector then they should resign according to rules.i don’t know the gov employees rule but in private sector most jobs require a 30 days period for resignation so that the employer can make alternate arrangement in those 30 days hope u get my point.Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 4, 2011 - 11:45AM

    @dr adnan:

    If you can bear to have responsibility of human blood on your hands, it is your choice. I believe you are not a patient and nobody in your family is ever going to be a patient. Let some one in your family die from lack of madical treatment and you will understand the suffering of patients who are getting heat of your blood thirsty desires.

    You should have used your time in some other profession if money was your only concern.

    I know doctors and I know how corrupt and ruthless they are. They work for government. But force patients to visit their private clinics, use their private labs. Prepare fake and forged medical reports. Doctors do everything for money………… If you are a doctors you know all this. Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 4, 2011 - 12:22PM

    I believe that all government, federal and provincial should seek other alternatives. If doctors are thinking on basis of money than government should also start taking taking decisions which provide them value for money alternatives.

    The best alternative is to eliminate all doctors jobs in government hospitals and contrat out these services to private firms. And then should enforce the quality and availability of the services. The doctors under private employers of their own profession would be better managed. Moreover, a lot of them are engaged in illegal private practices, private bosses would take care of that as well.

    There will be no government jobs and there will be no strikes. Recommend

  • ovais
    Apr 4, 2011 - 2:57PM

    @Ahmed:
    waow what a wonderful stupid idea u gave to terminate all doctors so there ll be no govt hospitals running and hence no strike. so where would patients go? u knw they ll come to us in our private clinics and pay for their treatmen. its good idea for doctors but patients ll be suffering alot more than nw. u are truely a stupid person. govt has no alternative than to agree for our demands. problem is when they gonna give us our right. its impossible for punjab govt to replace 20000 doctors.Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 4, 2011 - 3:19PM

    @ovais:

    Countries like UK and USA has reformed health sector by contracting out these services to more efficient private sector. When doctors can come up with a strike, people and government can come up with creative solutions. Ball is in doctors’ court.

    I have not suggested a thing like people should also come on streets and manage doctors themselves.

    Govt should seek alternatives of employing doctors. One best solution is to hire sub-contractors who hire doctors and place them in different hospitals. This is a real-world solution. Doctors would be better managed by private bosses. The problem with government education {MBBS in govt funded schools} and government job {doing job as a part time employee and running private practices} is that people think that they deserve these, no one tries to earn these.Recommend

  • danish
    Apr 4, 2011 - 3:32PM

    i am a great supporter of these young doctors and i firmly believe that they deserve a substantial raise in their pay…..just look at the inflation rate in our country and you still expect these doctors to render their valuable services for just 22 thousand rupees a month…come on ,now it’s time for our pathetic government to wake up and smell the coffee.Recommend

  • salman
    Apr 4, 2011 - 4:02PM

    @Ahmed: every government educational institution spent money on their students and many of these go abroad and get settled there, why u r not raising voice against them. every government institution has employees who have got education from subsidized education system, and u may also be one of them. when people from other government institution raise voice for their rights then no one say that they should,nt raise voice as they have got eduaction from government institution. if a doctor gets subsidized education then at the same time, he himself and his family are paying taxes on which u and many others are getting subsidized education. if an employer is not paying enough to the employees then its their right to quit from job as doctors are doing. they are resigning because they are less paid but they are not barring anyone to join government sector. Recommend

  • Copper
    Apr 4, 2011 - 4:19PM

    How much is the current pay? And what is the demand by the doctors? Would anyone please enlighten meRecommend

  • MAD
    Apr 4, 2011 - 4:55PM

    @Musa:

    Wow you sound like a real hero dont youRecommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 4, 2011 - 5:08PM

    @danish:

    So you also support letting people die by not giving them medical care. There are other ways of protest.

    Journalists are a community who had protested in tha past. See how they behaved. How many newspapers were not published when they were protesting?? I do not think of any. Journalists behaved as educated people.

    You should not call these doctors educated ones because they havenot behaved like educated people.

    People whose loved ones have died due to these butchers would never forget them. 2-3 days back there was a picture of six month old who died due to lack of treatment.

    If I would have been in place of punjab government, I would have taken all steps to ensure no one dares to do these kind of barbaric acts in future. Recommend

  • ovais
    Apr 4, 2011 - 8:17PM

    @Ahmed:
    why should doctors in private setup come to join govt hospitals. i am working in private setup but i am with YDA from my heart so are 99% of all doctors in pakistan. ur idea is still a flop bc all doctors are supporting strike whether they are in govtt sector or private. so again good luck with that. no one ll come to join govt policy except for very few black sheepsRecommend

  • Ali
    Apr 4, 2011 - 8:23PM

    @salman:
    The main issue is killing people. The people who get education from other subsidised institutions and go abroad send remittances to Pakistan from time to time. If you may have seen news overseas Pakistanis sent around 7 Billion dollars in last year. These remittances are a source of keeping Pakistan solvent.

    However, the duty of doctors is different. Without any doubt doctors are the highest earning professional community in Pakistan. Off-course, these doctors need to wait and settle in first few years of their professional life.

    If you consider with sincerity, doctors are responsible for deaths. More than government, because governments’ psychy is always to control things.

    From thsi crisis I have come to conclusion that if you want to earn money do not waste your time in becoming a doctor. Do something else. Atleast you would not be killing people.Recommend

  • malik
    Apr 5, 2011 - 2:43AM

    @ahmed …… hey man wt do u do? i mean ur source of income??? watevr it is , sure u will b having alot money nd there r thousands other ppl in pak who hv billions of rupee . they all shd cum forward nd let the poor b treated at private hospitals on these rich men expenses . if doctors hv becum killers then y dnt u rich ppl MASEEHA???? dnt u hv heart???? y u letting the poors die at govt hospitals????what efforts u hv done till now for these suffering poor ppl???? ITS EASY TO GIVE LECTURE ON HUMANITY hun.every1 talking abt deaths of these ppl nd blaming evrythng on docs , IM ASKING HV U PPL SAVED EVEN A SINGLE LIFE , THRO UR MONEY BY LETTING POOR TO B TREATED AT PARIVATE HOSPITALS , SINCE DOCTORS STOP ATTENDING EMERGENCIES AT GOVT HOSPITALS.Recommend

  • aftab
    Apr 5, 2011 - 3:13AM

    For all those who think doctors strike is unjustified,I have an offer.Leave your jobs for 2 months and work with us in emergency,OT,OPD and wards.Do all the shifts with us.You don’t need to be a doctor,you can serve humanity by nursing the patients and helping the doctors.We’ll pay you Rs 18000/month. Action speak louder than words. If you can’t act, seal your mouthsRecommend

  • Dr. Adnan
    Apr 5, 2011 - 5:28AM

    @All Above

    Well I just wanted to say that I’m disappointed on the comments made by fellow citizens about our profession and just to show how serious we are I submitted my resignation yesterday at Jinnah Hospital, Lahore.

    And I would not be joining any hospital until this matter is over, I can’t support my family on 22,500 PKR/Month, I guess it’s time for me to take the offer of a foreign hospital and leave this place. Thank you all for helping me to make up my mind.

    I guess moving on is a better option when my govt. and my own people ain’t gonna look after me. All they can do is criticize on us.

    Have a good one everybody !.Recommend

  • ashfaq
    Apr 5, 2011 - 9:59AM

    @Ajay:
    ajay i dont know what you do but i advised you to just study a few pages of robin pathology. i am totally with the doctors. if gov can pay css officer and give him alaot of allownces then why cant they support a doctor.my prays are with you people. and inshallah you will succed.Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Apr 5, 2011 - 3:12PM

    @malik:

    I am not a doctor, but I work 16 hours a day. I also do not get 18,000 per month.

    But I know that what I am earning now is a temporary situation. In due process of time I would start earning only thing I need to do is just wait.

    Doctors are the highest earning community in Pakistan. There is no doubt in that. But you people are impatient, greedy and ruthless. You want quick money at any cost.

    Government has its limitation, but just imagine the time when people would start protest against doctors. Recommend

  • ovais
    Apr 5, 2011 - 3:47PM

    @Ahmed:
    shame on ur ridiculous comments. doctors deserve better pay bc they are heighest educated people of pakistan u cant compare them with anyone else. u dont knw hw much a doctor has to struggle in his life starting from school level u have to be always on top to be a doctor. i guess u couldnt qualify for medical college admission thats why u are against us. anyway docotors are no way heighest earning of this country. its politicians and businessmen and gangsters who earn 1000 times more than most successfull doctor. but u chose again these currupts to give them even more money. now dont tell me that govt officials are very honest and spending a simple comon man life.Recommend

  • salman
    Apr 5, 2011 - 11:51PM

    @Ali: when oil price and prices of other products are raised, government has only one answer, prices are according to international market then why these people do,nt pay doctors according to international market. i know an ASP who joined police force 1 year back, his salary is 80000 thousand along with a home which certainly cost about 30000 to 40000 in civil area, vehicle along with a driver and many other facilities. i think his salary and all other benefits approaches near two lacs per month. while doctors are also given grade 17 at their induction but least paid. i do,nt talk about US or europe but even india is paying 80000 thousand rupee per month to a medical officer which is about 150000 pakistani rupees. is it not injustice. doctors did, nt resigned all of a sudden, they started movement two years ago by wearing only black strips during their working hours. but no one to notice it. they protested on road, they did negotiatiations with government but no result. then they discontinued their services from OPD but no one to notice. it was the duty of civil society to raise voice for doctors so that they could do their duties in hospitals but if u people do,nt have such sense then what to do?Recommend

  • Tariq
    Apr 6, 2011 - 1:12AM

    @salman:

    A lot of MBBS physicians (it is pertinent to note that MBBS are not eligible to be called doctors; only M.D. are eligible to be called doctors) join CSS.

    You telling the starting salary of an ASP, what about comparison between retirement salary of an ASP and a Physician. Off course, you will not raise points which do not go in your favour. That is true fact of bigoted physicians.

    None of your logics and reasoning can justify killing innocent. I cannot understand why people forget that they are also suppose to die one day because death is an undenieable reality.

    After looking at comments of common people and doctors’ responses, I can only say one thing:

    Bhans ke aage bein bajanay ka koi faida nahin. Here Bhans means these physicians.Recommend

  • ovais
    Apr 6, 2011 - 3:45PM

    to all people
    govt of punjab is saying that no emergency in any city was closed for even 1 day and they have arranged alternate measures for patient treatment., so no one can blame doctors on strike for any of the deaths . u can blame it on punjab govt.how u defend that.?Recommend

  • Sk
    Apr 7, 2011 - 9:16AM

    Up until now in this Great Nation of ours, patients died in hospitals because of lack of medicine. Today however, patients are dying not because of medicine, but because our government simply can’t afford doctors in their hospitals. Asking us to go there and save people is like asking us to work for charity, which we have been doing for the past so many years. Something else the media should know is that We havent closed off the hospital doors, the hospitals are already open, the government, just needs to fill them with doctors.Recommend

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