Filling the void

Published: March 29, 2011

Apparently there is a cricket match on today? Yes, unless you have been living in deepest, darkest Mongolia you’ll be aware that there is a group of 22 men playing with balls and bats somewhere in India. It has transfixed the subcontinent. In Pakistan, little else has been talked about since India defeated Australia last week. People are going around with silly grins on their faces saying things like ‘This is THE World Cup Final’! ‘Boom Boom’ T-shirts have been offered for free to those who turn up at certain shops. Imran Khan’s failings as politician have quickly been forgotten, as people once again evoke the spirit of 1992’s cornered tigers and their captain. This was before even the politicians joined the fray.

All this brings to mind the famous quote by Bill Shankly, the great Liverpool manager, who said: “Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that”. Yes, for most of Pakistan, this is how this match feels.

However, let’s not get caught up in the hyperbolic hysteria. The reality is, it is just a game. Whether we win or lose, the excitement will fade. Then what? Where does that leave Pakistan? We’ll go back to being nations at war with each other.

For too long, we have been a nation divided; divided by ethnicity, language, class and creed. In the last credible census in 1981, only 8 per cent of the population considered Urdu their mother tongue. We are all too aware of our bloody sectarian divide. Whether it is the implementation of the 1974 Constitution or the upholding of the blasphemy laws, the Pakistani state has persecuted its religious minorities. The reality is that the only time we unite as a nation is at times of war, or cricket matches, against India; a reflex carefully manipulated and designed by our political establishment. The state has been good at defining what we are not (India, Hindu), but not as good at defining who we are. What does it mean to be a Pakistani?

There has been a lot of talk recently about a new Pakistani nationalism that is emerging; a nationalism that is said to be driven by the budding urban middle class which celebrates Pakistan’s pluralism. Some commentators have argued that the Pakistani identity has gone beyond the narrow confines established by our political establishment of Muslim, Islamic, anti-Indian, anti-Hindu. I am not so sure. Presently, I don’t see this newfangled middle class; a middle class that is accepting of a secular, pluralist society. Instead, the emerging middle class is predominately conservative and Islamic in outlook. It appears that some commentators are projecting their (worthy) aspirations onto the bourgeoisie. However, the reality is different.

Since 1971, we have been a nation in search of an identity. The idea that Pakistan was a nation designed as a political home for the Muslims of the subcontinent abruptly evaporated overnight. The two-state solution was dead. We suddenly had to ask ourselves what we stood for as a nation. What did it mean to be a Pakistani? There was very little soul-searching after 1971. We still barely acknowledge the event in our state history books. It has been airbrushed from history. Instead of a national dialogue, successive governments clumsily attempted to shoehorn their perceived notions of Pakistani national identity into the vacuum created after 1971. As a result, we had Bhutto’s pan-Islamic nationalism, Zia’s Islamisation, Musharraf’s enlightened moderation — whatever that was. None have filled the void. The identity deficit has also allowed others to encroach into Pakistan. The Saudis, the US, as well as non-state actors have all exploited this discrepancy for their own gain.

I wish the Pakistani team all the best today. But a win will not resolve our problems. Instead, whether we win or lose, we should take this opportunity for some collective soul-searching about our identity. What does Pakistan stand for today? What does it mean to be Pakistani at the beginning of the 21st century? We can no longer be reactively defined by what we are not — Indian. We need to find out who we are. We need to fill the void.

Published in The Express Tribune, March 30th, 2011.

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Reader Comments (64)

  • Mar 29, 2011 - 11:29PM

    Yay, George has not left Pakistan yet. Cricket, mate, has nothing to do with what you are talking about. But it is the only thing that it is keeping the nation united right now. Recommend

  • Atif
    Mar 29, 2011 - 11:36PM

    why does your history strat from post 1947? Where did the queen and her viceroy go?
    You divided us and today you call it zias issue. hypocrites!!Recommend

  • Mar 29, 2011 - 11:44PM

    Perhaps what we need is a post-apartheid South African styled Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Get the truth out in the open, reconcile grievances, create common ground and move forward. Recommend

  • Rakesh
    Mar 29, 2011 - 11:51PM

    I think a victory would help. It might create a sense of nationality, heck it might create another political party, 18 years down the line? I would argue that the very void you are pointing to, might as well be filled partly by a victory tomorrow.

    So, let’s not underestimate the impact of a potential win. If there is any country that needs a world-cup victory right now, it is Pakistan. Who deserves it, well, that will be decided on the field.Recommend

  • faraz
    Mar 30, 2011 - 12:07AM

    Nationalism cant be build upon islamic ideology because there is no concept of a geographically defined state in islam. Nationalism puts the interest of the state ahead of every thing including the word of God. Equality among all citizens of a state is one of the fundamentals of nationalism, but thats not possible in the kind of islamic state that majority of Pakistanis want. Recommend

  • Nitin
    Mar 30, 2011 - 12:19AM

    @Atif: come on man! don’t blame the british for dividing the country. It is we who are completely responsible for whatever nefarious designs the west might have played on us. Afterall, we did have a choice – and we chose to play in the hands of the british. Thus my point is – yes, the british and the west have always tried to manipulate us (the way they are doing it right now), but it is ‘we the stupid’ who fall for it. The only way out is to make ourselves economically strong enough that others cannot abuse our weaknesses – like what Illama Iqbal said ‘Khudi ko kar buland itna…’ Recommend

  • pakistani
    Mar 30, 2011 - 12:28AM

    i am an educated and an open minded person, who is a Pakistani. Religion is something personal to me, i dont care if someone else is a hindu or a christian, i want india to accept my couuntry as a reality and i want my country to be successful in the league of nations. Thats my identity…Recommend

  • Salman J
    Mar 30, 2011 - 12:42AM

    i thought you left UK once and for all, co called pseudo-pakistani ? then wht gives u the right to comment abt pakistan bro, no offence but u left IT, Recommend

  • Waleed Khan
    Mar 30, 2011 - 12:45AM

    I like it that STILL George talks with ‘ We’ and ‘our’ when referring to Pakistan and Pakistanis.

    GO George !Recommend

  • O
    Mar 30, 2011 - 12:53AM

    George ka khuda Hafiz part 3???? is it?….. how many more parts to come?
    let this country feel the hype….we are deprived of the game we love…thats why the desperation level is beyond high….
    you are such a pessimistic person man…..and an attention seeker too.
    looking forward to George Ka Khuda Hafiz part 4.Recommend

  • Cautious
    Mar 30, 2011 - 12:56AM

    Since it’s inception Pakistan has defined itself by Islam – that’s the fundamental problem. You wrapped yourself in a self defined image that your holier/better than others – you promote xenophobic behavior – and you allowed it all to get out of hand. Now you cannot even discuss how to moderate extreme views without being assassinated (with plenty of people applauding the assassin), Play your cricket game – enjoy the moment – but the downward spiral continues.Recommend

  • Usama Zafar
    Mar 30, 2011 - 12:58AM

    I agree with you but I would give more importance to being intellectually strong rather than being economically strong…Recommend

  • Nurmomad
    Mar 30, 2011 - 1:22AM

    “only 8 per cent of the population considered Urdu their mother tongue”

    What’s so peculiar about that?

    Is not there a difference between “mother-tongue” and “national language”?Recommend

  • ihsan
    Mar 30, 2011 - 1:28AM

    why are you still here man…???
    why dont you just leave us…???Recommend

  • ArifQ
    Mar 30, 2011 - 1:39AM

    George Bhai, Pakistan is a Federation, if only we could understand and accept this concept there would be no need to ask such basic questions in 2011. To answer your question ‘who are Pakistanis’ we have to go back and study the Lahore Resolution of 1940 and Jinnah’s speech to the constituent assembly, both these events are excellent dispositions explaining the idea called Pakistan shared by millions. A good example of this common spirit was seen in Bangladesh where the Pakistani cricket team was applauded and supported by Bengali spectators and people in general. Its unfortunate that our Captain and man of the match both failed to appreciate the support shown by the Bengali people, was it a honest mistake or reflection of poor basic manners, its difficult to say but does reflect the general apathy that people in the West have towards their Eastern brothers and sisters. Bangladesh today is a proud, secular nation with Muslim majority and Dacca is known as the city of Mosques yet they are not plagued by the self-righteous virus prevalent in Pakistan. It is still not too late, adopt in spirit and form the Lahore resolution of 1940 and include Jinnah’s speech in the Pakistani constitution. Recommend

  • ayaz
    Mar 30, 2011 - 2:04AM

    get a life George Bush.Recommend

  • anisa
    Mar 30, 2011 - 2:07AM

    i am so baffled by George’s opinions
    i haven’t slept in 3 nights because i am so anxious over the game
    i am a gazillion miles away, not with my people as they CELEBRATE their team making it to the semi finals… that’s all there is to it …
    a game played with a bat and a ball won’t change the dire condition Pakistan is in, but uniting over such a sport is heartening
    i am extremely proud of our team, they got us to the semis baby !!!! and all i want now is a good clean match, winning would help but putting up a good fight is just as great
    i sincerely don’t understand where George comes off with all this historical jibber jabber
    it’s the world cup ! we have due rights to be psyched ! when was the last time US Pakistanis’ had something so miraculous happen to us? we got through to the SEMI’s . THAT IS JUST FANTASTIC
    when the soccer cup was being played, south Africans were celebrating the sport and no they were not fretting over being one the the highest aids infested country, when Brazil played their fans cheered them on with such enthusiasm paying little heed to its raising crime rate and the economic crisis it is facing
    Pakistan has its issues – major ones
    but one mustn’t judge its people for banding together over a sport that brings US joy and excites us… this is something WE have been looking forward to
    irrespective of how our thursday might turn out, WEDNESDAY is going to be EPIC
    and NO ONE has the right to make us sound fickle and shallow
    not even George Recommend

  • Mar 30, 2011 - 2:08AM


    soul searching presupposes a soul;)

    judging by the establishment and power pundits it can be argued that we’re:


    but not speechless

    a mandatory comment on the game:

    one team will win

    the team which fields best, bats best, bowls best on wednesday
    the past performance is history

  • pl/sql
    Mar 30, 2011 - 2:41AM

    Being Pakistani = Hating India and Hindus or AT LEAST NOT being an Indian or a Hindu. Period.Recommend

  • Cosmo
    Mar 30, 2011 - 3:03AM

    Well, there you go,if India has not yet accepted your country as separate nation then why the hell are we playing this match against each other. Well, when it suits, you guys do say that BBCI has power to influence everything in cricket, well, then they could very well announce Pak team as a part of India. Dude, Pakistan is what you have made of it today, Pakistan is known exactly the way it has tried to project itself. The burden of announcing Pakistan’s arrival does not lie with Inida, it lies with Pakistanis.
    Actually, your concern and fear is exactly what this article is highlighting. Why the hell do you need India to approve you? Why would you not grow out of Indian shadow? Why everything uniting Pakistanis has to be tied to a success againt India?

    my advice, get rid of this MINDSET and you will start to EXIST.Recommend

  • Vicram Singh
    Mar 30, 2011 - 3:21AM

    @pakistani: ” i want india to accept my couuntry as a reality and i want my country to be successful in the league of nations. ”

    Why would we not want to accept Pakistan as a reality ?Recommend

  • Amir
    Mar 30, 2011 - 3:21AM

    India doesnt accept pakistan as a sovereign nation!

    you are still part of Greater indian and it would be soon a part of india by 2020.

    who cares about cricket!its about long term plans !!

    Greater India=Akhand bharat will happen soon.Insallah!! Recommend

  • Tim
    Mar 30, 2011 - 3:33AM

    I wonder why bloggers/journalists so cheaply abuse the country of Mongolia. Mongolia’s citizens are highly educated and very comfortably connected – in comparison with “the world averages”. Just consult some stats please. Her literacy rate is even higher than that of Spain. Or if it’s because one saw some farmers in video footages; then you mustn’t forget that the cameraman chose to look over their satellite dishes and trucks on purpose – for the sake of the image he intended to convey. I work with rural farmers there and they are well-connected, not the least via TV.Recommend

  • Patriot
    Mar 30, 2011 - 4:22AM

    @ Atif : You know why the british ruled over you people for so long? It was exactly because they could see what you people could never see. Just as today George can see what majority of pakistanis cant see. i.e. your week points, your short comings, where you lack and how to tackle all that.
    Two thumbs up George, it was a great readRecommend

  • Srinath
    Mar 30, 2011 - 5:09AM

    By George, I am reminded of another George (Bernard Shaw). At best, this game can only tickle and titillate people on both sides of the border. At the end of the day, we can’t escape the realities. GBS was right!Recommend

  • adam
    Mar 30, 2011 - 7:12AM

    Declaring a public holiday for a cricket match! now that tells something about work culture and work ethics. Imagine what the children must be thinking….If I had tried to miss school as a child to watch a cricket match on TV, I would have received a tight slap from my parents, not to mention the repercussions at school. Now imagine a public holiday being declared for a match!Recommend

  • Ajay
    Mar 30, 2011 - 7:20AM

    @Salman J:
    You will not understand. When someone like George has lived for so many years, when he took a conscious decison to settle in land called Pakistan, it means he really adopted it by his heart and mind. Now if such a person leaves the land, it should be an indicator to all patriotic Pakistanis that calamity is hovering upon you. Pakistan is already part of George’s many identites (greorge described in an earlier article how one can have multiple identities and feel obliged to all) and therefore he has a right to speak and he is speaking from knowledge about Pakistan that he is rightful owner of from living in it for so many years. That is why it is important to understand every word of his writing as he can compare cultures. Recommend

  • anfield kop
    Mar 30, 2011 - 7:31AM

    how any cricket match can compare to a football game is beyond imagination. shanks also said that for those 90 minutes football was more important than faith and family. but geezers stuck on cricket think it as a matter of faith, a crusade. poor chaps, they’ll never grow up…Recommend

  • Ravi
    Mar 30, 2011 - 8:25AM

    I think the best thing britons did war partition so that we can see all the drama across the border.
    Drama that pakistanis believe that they will be equal to india if they win this match.
    As far as identity is concerned the whole muslim community (irrespective of which country they live in) is in a identity crisis, they just don’t know whether they are muslims first or citizens of their country??????
    This crisis don’t end here people from all other religions don’t understand whether muslims are humans or animals first?????Recommend

  • Colorado NRI
    Mar 30, 2011 - 8:57AM

    As an Indian, I agree with George. I hope this event will be a catharsis. Pakistan has to stand for something positive rather than anti-this or anti-that. No one is out to get you – not India, not Israel, not America. That is all pure fiction. Clean you act, get rid of the oversized army, get rid of the backward taliban, seek for the middle road and walk it. Forget the Kashmir cause, forget the Palestinian cause…as they say, charity begins at home,. Stop kissing up to China or the USA or the Sauds, Reform yourself, focus on development, on education, on your own betterment. Reclaim your place amongst the league of respected nations. I think you can do it.Recommend

  • John
    Mar 30, 2011 - 9:01AM

    This is the first time the elected civilian leaders are actually visiting Pakistan in a non political agenda. For all practical purposes, Pakistan already won. Win or loose it does not matter. The ball is already in the pitch. Recommend

  • John
    Mar 30, 2011 - 9:02AM

    Sorry, type error, elected leaders actually visiting India.Recommend

  • Imran
    Mar 30, 2011 - 9:18AM

    What are you doing in the land of pure????Recommend

  • Mahvesh
    Mar 30, 2011 - 9:23AM

    Oh god, shut up! If we lose, so what! If we win – NEWSFLASH! It’s not going to solve our problems and give us a new opportunity for an in-depth identity analysis! Please stop doing this!!!!Recommend

  • Ozz
    Mar 30, 2011 - 9:36AM

    This just goes to prove getting a passport or your own T.V. show doesn’t make you Pakistani. Disappointed in George for calling a World Cup semi-final showdown with India as JUST a game. Recommend

  • MAD
    Mar 30, 2011 - 9:39AM

    Well atleast you still support the cricket team.Recommend

  • M.Aslam
    Mar 30, 2011 - 9:42AM

    I like it because i think the same way. We need more maturity as a nation and media can play a vital role doing this. Some times media just gets non-sense like in sania-shoiab case in recent history.Recommend

  • Talat Haque
    Mar 30, 2011 - 9:43AM

    George will remain George wherever he may be ……………. a man is a man , he is not a location ……………. good to be sharing …. and caring …. with you George ! :)Recommend

  • SI
    Mar 30, 2011 - 9:49AM


    Agree with George here. Good Analysis. He is not a pseudo-Pakistani. He is one of us. I am also hoping that Pakistan comes on top but then again it is only a sport and will not solve any of our problems.Recommend

  • Ravi
    Mar 30, 2011 - 9:50AM

    I think the best thing britons did war partition so that we can see all the drama across the border.
    Drama that pakistanis believe that they will be equal to india if they win this match.
    As far as identity is concerned the whole muslim community (irrespective of which country they live in) is in a identity crisis, they just don’t know whether they are muslims first or citizens of their country??????
    This crisis don’t end here people from all other religions don’t understand whether muslims are humans or animals first?????Recommend

  • Aristo
    Mar 30, 2011 - 10:03AM

    George all your concerns will fall on deaf ears. I suggest stop wasting your energies on non-productive activities.Recommend

  • G.K
    Mar 30, 2011 - 10:08AM

    Here the writer has tried to say that Pak is established on weak fundamentals.But due to lack of futurisic vision, our great great grand fathers divided the country.Some think that it was a black day in India’s histroy,but when i see the current condition of Pak,I feel no doubt in the vision of some of our leaders.Religion should not be an issue for 20th century.When People have reached moon,some people give importance to religion.This is pathetic.Recommend

  • SAK
    Mar 30, 2011 - 10:14AM

    After facing immense criticism about ditching the country, you’re trying to win hearts again by writing about Pakistan’s problems, taking care to throw in a few goody-sounding “our country” and “our nation” phrases. I don’t judge you for leaving Pakistan; many people in your situation would have, and heck, desperately want to. But now that you’re (hopefully) gone, please refrain from still trying to sound like you live here (like anyone reading your new articles would think)…after your lamenting about how Pakistan has failed you, it sounds like you’re saying “Oh, I love the country and the natives, but what can I do, they’re too dangerous and savage for me and my imported wife to stay here.”Recommend

  • masroor pirzado
    Mar 30, 2011 - 10:42AM

    Very well written article George!
    The subcontinent countries, especially Pakistan and India are too emotional about cricket. And when anyone is emotional, he is never logical and realistic. So we are.
    The tension between Pakistan and India will remain same even after this Cricket Diplomacy.
    Politics has its own interests, bloody interests. And for theses interests it uses different tools to gain profits. Cricket is also one of the tools.
    India-Pakistan politics use Cricket, music, art, cinema and other beautiful activities sometimes to gain its bloody profits.
    Art and other things repeatedly raise voices for peace and harmony in the region but our politics always denies them and ready for war, bloodshed, violence etc….Recommend

  • tarek
    Mar 30, 2011 - 11:06AM

    You’re own (or former) country, UK is mired in a huge debt problem right now. Pakistan and it’s people know how to live and deal with poverty, but what would happen when Rome would fall and it’s citizens would have no experience.
    I hate people when they actually start spewing this “urban” propaganda, most pakistanis live in rural areas. They own their own farms or for the most part work on some landlords farm. It is a subsistence life style. They know where their water, food is coming from. They are not dependent on bottled water which runs out when you need it most (hint:Japan).
    Stop believing in this civilizational utopia (side effects of reading too many books). Otherwise, it’s like having a wife and constantly berating her to change only to realize that she doesn’t give a sh*&.

    Here’s my advice, civilizations collapse very suddenly (former USSR, all the previous empires). The western world has it’s days numbered. You would want to own a farm, so come to Pakistan and buy some good farmland which would make you independent. What happened with Iceland will happen to UK as well.

    “A nation divided by ethnicity, language etc” isn’t that supposed to be right, or you want to remove this and create a singular identity and a class less society, sounds more like communism. And a nation state itself is a modern, fragile and ridiculous concept. Recommend

  • ba ha
    Mar 30, 2011 - 11:07AM

    “………….Since 1971, we have been a nation in search of an identity.”………….. WE KNOW WHO WE ARE BU,T WE CANT SEEM TO INTEGRATE URDU SPEAKING ASPIRATION IN OUR IDRecommend

  • Ayaz F. Farooqi
    Mar 30, 2011 - 11:12AM

    George, since you have fled Pakistan because you think the country is heading towards no where else but abyss, I suggest that you should not waste your energies about writing on topics related to my beloved homeland. Have a happy stay far away from Pakistan!Recommend

    Mar 30, 2011 - 11:15AM

    Have you not left? Its a little irritating when you continue to banter on trying to tell us how things should be in this country. You’ve taken the coward’s way out Mr Fulton, and that’s fine with the rest of us but please stop telling us what we need to do.

    Our solutions whether to “our overt in your face explosive religiosity” or “to our profound identity crisis” will have to be home-grown. These over the top words of wisdom from the “Gora gone native for a while” are becoming tiresome!

    You’ve moved out and no longer have novelty value at your present address! Live with that!Recommend

  • Usama Zafar
    Mar 30, 2011 - 12:18PM

    See that is the problem. We just cannot tolerate any sane voice in our society. This attitude is the very reason why George was pushed to such an extent that he was left with no choice but to leave this country for good in the first place!! You may call him a coward but I would definitely call him a wise man!!Recommend

  • Ammar
    Mar 30, 2011 - 12:57PM


    George is a Pakistani as well. And what done is done. We are victims of our own shortsightedness. It is us who bought the idea of drawing the line on the land and declared one PAK and the other NA-PAK. If we have learnt something from history then we should realize that Nations are not build on the foundations of religion. People own religions not the land. It really is necessary for us to identify ourselves. Our history starts with Muhammad Bin Qasim’s attack on Sind, I ask where did the indus valley civilization go. If we go look for Dravadians, we find not a single Dravad who actually is son of the soil. First of all we have to discard the history written by fanatic mullahs and then we should teach our children the true history. The history that does not contain the opinions, only pure events and let our children decide what is wrong and what is right.Recommend

  • Mar 30, 2011 - 1:58PM

    I dont know why you and other media types want to portray that Pakistanis think of this as solution to Pakistan’s problems. Pakistanis, a lot of them live below poverty, know that this match is not going to solve their problems. They are not idiots. They earn their living not by writing philosophical columns in English newspapers but by scraping a living on the streets, in factories, at construction sites and on roads. But for one day, this match gives them the opportunity to forget their miseries. Let them enjoy it. We all know that tomorrow is another hard days slog against illiteracy, corruption, low taxes to GDP ratio, law and order….and please leave the country alreadyRecommend

    Mar 30, 2011 - 3:46PM

    @Usama Zafar: I have nothing against sanity nor sane voices. however as someone who also has to live outside of the country for considerable periods myself I am of the firm belief that the best solutions are homegrown which are thought out by people who have to deal with these issues on a daily basis.

    Pakistanis should no doubt introspect and look inward to solve many issues that face us as a society from religion, to governance to morality but our expatriate diaspora and well meaning goras like Mr Fulton, have no stake in the country when they chose to leave it. You need to be here in the country to be part of the solution rather sit in the airconditioned first world and try telling people how they need to transform into better societies.

    The bitter truth that is dawning on George Ole boy is that he has no celebrity status in Britain and that is something he is seemingly having trouble with! These rants about the problems of Pakistan seems increasingly like attempts to have the best of both worlds which in his case is a coupling of his NHS benefits plus his fan following in Pakistan.

    And lastly while I can write volumes about how Pakistan as a society is dysfunctional and in terrible need of immediate reform, no one forced Georgie here to leave, in fact as he himself in his rather volumous Khuda Hafiz entries admitted that the country by and large received him with open arms assimilating him into society without much trouble for nearly a decade or so. So your entire tirade of how he was forced into exile is as hollow as George’s take these days on the many problems facing us from far afield. Come live with us George as a first amongst equal Pakistani and tell us what is wrong. Like many of your other fans I too miss your voice of sanity Recommend

  • reader
    Mar 30, 2011 - 6:14PM

    don’t be such a kill joy, george. we know of our problems. let us have a day off. Recommend

  • Babar
    Mar 30, 2011 - 6:53PM

    George, you are welcome to enjoy some good cricket.Recommend

  • Vicram Singh
    Mar 30, 2011 - 10:57PM

    Allah be praised. He loves India. Why would he let India win otherwise ?Recommend

  • Majeed
    Mar 31, 2011 - 1:36AM

    Man, saulah anney sacch! From your mouth to Allah’s ears.
    To think that in a subcontinent of 1.5 billion plus souls, we are allowing (the unfortunate and sad) history of 15 million displaced citizens to keep on hold ad infinitum, the progressive trajectory. We have wasted (all of South Asia together, though the Indian’s have found their stride and confidence) half our ‘independence’ to self- inflected wounds. Pathetic. Pakistan was Asia’s fastest emerging nation in the fifties and sixties. Surely there is something within us, that pushed us forward ahead of India back then. If India, after long stagnation is soon to be the fastest growing economy, there is something in them too. WE TOGETHER HAVE IT. But tell that to our feckless leaders. Time for us to have that reconciliation. Tomorrow is too late. We need it like yesterday. Just hope, that Pindi HQ plays ball. Recommend

  • Ravindra Mishra
    Mar 31, 2011 - 2:08AM

    Okay! It is quite evident that both your pseudonym and your comments are false. What utter bull. The only ‘Greater’ anything now possible in the subcontinent is a federation of sovereign, independent states on ones of the EU. A South Asian Federation which includes Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan and Sri Lanka. And if bozos like you think that it is impossible or far away… well dream away. OUR REGION is coming up fast against many limitations in resources. Cooperation, give and take and mutual preference in trade and services is the only way we will overcome poverty and improve the human index. Come to think of it, it was ALWAYS the ONLY WAY. WE HAVE WASTED A LOT OF NATIONAL TIME AND MONEY. Time to change and work together. Naysayers be damned.Recommend

  • Ravindra Mishra
    Mar 31, 2011 - 2:32AM

    @Vicram Singh:
    Very good Vicram beta. Khush ho Gaye, chahak lagakey?
    It is this adolescent boorishness of your types that embarasses us ‘grown-up’ sanjeeda- mature types. Don’t stay out too late tonight, I can already tell you are not learning anything new apart from the rictus parochialsm we desis are so prone to. Grow up for a change.

  • Usama Zafar
    Mar 31, 2011 - 6:37PM

    Yes I agree that the solution to our problems should be homegrown but I would disagree with the term “Gora gone native for a while” which you used for George since he actually came and lived here for 9 years!! Thats quite a lot of time my friend!!

    I would also diagree with your second point. George might be someone who is confused between being a gora or a desi to you. But to me he is someone who actually cares about this country (unlike our local people who are actually a part of the problem and not the solution)!!

    And lastly He did try to live with us but somehow the people of this land of pure just couldn’t accept his gori skin as their own!! Yes they opened their arms for him but the moment they found out he wanted to live here as a first class citizen, they just couldnt take it!!

    So you don’t get to pass such taunts about him!!Recommend

  • Vicram Singh
    Mar 31, 2011 - 7:13PM

    @Ravindra Mishra: “Very good Vicram beta. Khush ho Gaye, chahak lagakey?
    It is this adolescent boorishness of your types that embarasses us ‘grown-up’ sanjeeda- mature types.

    A South Asian Federation which includes Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan and Sri Lanka. And if bozos like you think that it is impossible or far away… well dream away.

    To the Pakistani behind “Mishra” – you got busted – first: nobody in India uses the word “sanjeeda” in common conversation, second: – no Indian wants a federation with Pakistan and Bangladesh – comprende ?Recommend

  • Ahmad
    Apr 1, 2011 - 12:00AM

    We have a very history and civilization that was always different from hind’s. This land was also known in history as hind n sindh, and we Pakistani’s have indus valey civilization behind us. But its a fact that we have lost our own identity. As an individual we will kill for honour but we wont even shed a drop of sweat for the honour of the country.

    We need events like thisbsemi final to awake this national honour in us individually. Win or loose matters, but what our team have achieved so far, despite a dead coach, an year without test matches, shame of lahore incident and 2 of its 3 strike bowlers out in a shameful case in last 4 years, is absolutely fantastic and it should be nough tobraise our heads high and proudly say that we are resiliant Pakistani’s who will fight back no matter how bad the situation is.

    Remain calm, head high and move on.

    Pakistan Zindabad. Recommend

  • Adeel
    Apr 1, 2011 - 5:50PM

    whats new in what you have said…you are fast running out of ideas mate after leaving pakistanRecommend

  • Apr 2, 2011 - 11:55PM

    You are absolutely right bhai.Recommend

  • Syed
    Apr 3, 2011 - 5:59AM

    Pakistan vs India is simply a cricket match , people need to get over themselves.

    Its a horrible feeling to know that a cricket match can bring a nation together…How about coming together for the thousands sleeping hungry every night? How about coming together and saving the lives the Taliban continue to take from us?

    Everyone keeps on blaming the US or India or some other magical country for their problems. The Pakistani Taliban are Zia’s creation (Sipah sahab, lashkar e taiba), in the name of the religion we ourselves harbor our own worst enemies.

    We created our own problems and sooner or later these same problems will be the end of us, meanwhile we can continue to have our heads buried in sand thinking our problems are going to go away.

    You want to live? Rise up and fight those same so called muslims who blow up our children…You want better lives? Sponsor some poor kids school and education so they dont turn into taliban fodder…You want Pakistan you call yourselves Pakistani? get the eff up and show what youre made of, sitting at home hiding in your hovel makes all of you cowards!Recommend

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