Three Ahmadis, including two minors, killed in Gujranwala

Published: July 28, 2014
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The site of the incident. PHOTO: EXPRESS

The site of the incident. PHOTO: EXPRESS

GUJRANWALA: Three members of the same family including one woman and two minors were killed and nine other people were injured when an angry mob set a house on fire in Arafat Colony, Gujranwala.

According to details, the clash started when an Ahmadi, Saqib s/o Ahmad Din, allegedly shared a blasphemous picture with Ejaz on Facebook.

Ejaz along with Zakariya s/o Imam Jama Masjid Sadiqia Qari Muhammad Hakim and others gathered outside Saqib’s house to protest.

However, Ahmadis belonging to the community had gathered at a Dr Sohail’s house at the time. The angry mob attempted to raid the doctor’s house in search of Saqib when, according to Ejaz, people inside the house opened fire on them, injuring Zakariya.

After that the angry mob set one house on fire, due to which Bashira Bibi, 30, and two minors including eight-month-old Hira, and five-year-old Kainat, died of suffocation, while nine others, including a woman and two minors were injured.

The injured were transferred District Hospital Gujranwala where they were given medical treatment. They were identified as Ruqia, Razia, Humaira, Noor Tabassum, Samar, Atta, Atiya and an infant. However, they were later shifted to Rabwah hospital because of security reasons.

SHO Peoples Colony Station Malik Asghar has confirmed three casualties. Six houses and a shop were damaged in the incident.

A cases was registered against 420 people, including 20 nominated, under sections 302, 436, 148 and 149 of Pakistan Penal Code and Section 7 of Anti-Terrorism Act on the complaint of Bhutta, father of the deceased minors, at the Peoples Colony Station.

Majority of the male members of the Ahmadi community have still not returned to their homes out of fear of another attack.

Family members have taken the bodies of the deceased into their custody and are heading towards Rabwah for burial.

Also, a seven-month pregnant woman, identified as Mubashira, had a miscarriage because of the incident.

Police have been deployed in the locality and no arrest has been made till the filing of this report.

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  • Jahanian Shah
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:07AM

    The usual fruits of ‘Two-nation theory’. Keep relishing !!!

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  • Aysha M
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:13AM

    Intolerance at its height in the holy month.
    RIP, those who lost their lives

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  • Az
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:29AM

    Gaza = Gujranwalla

    Jews = so called Muslims

    Will Culprits be arrested = No

    Can some one explain the difference.

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  • csmann
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:40AM

    Ah!! Mullahs again got blood on their hands.They need it every few months;What easy way other than attacking from behind the Blasphemy law to satisfy the blood-lust;Even constitution gaurrantee it.Pakistan Zindabaad!!

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  • Waseem Ahmad
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:45AM

    No arrest has been made till the filing of this report. No arrest will be made what so ever. The terrorists are free to roam this country while the innocent Ahmadies suffer at their hands. Another page in the black history of the evil doer mulla!Recommend

  • Sufi_Sindhi
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:46AM

    Shocking news :( Religion of Peace means Killing minorities and other minority sects?? What a positive side of religion being portrayed by Muslims of Pakistan. Shame Shame!

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  • A
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:46AM

    You say clash when people fight with each other. This is more like slaughter. 3 more Ahmedis murdered in cold blooded hatred.

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  • from Gujranwala
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:47AM

    What a ridiculous report filed by this ET reporter!
    “according to Ejaz” says it all. A terrible one sided story. I had higher expectations from ET.Recommend

  • Abdul Hai
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:51AM

    Please share the Facebook picture deemed offensive for the knowledge of readers.

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  • mikek
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:58AM

    Why is the Islamic world silent about ……

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  • Sohaib
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:00AM

    Opened fire? Proof?
    What a country! Where the murdered are blamed!
    Where are all the pro human rights? Those who only speak against Gaza, but not against the atrocities against Ahmadies, Shias and Christians?
    Speak up against Ahmadi Apartheid!

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  • AP
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:06AM

    There’s no humanity left in this country.

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  • Insaaniat
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:06AM

    My name is khan and I am a terrorists.

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  • faisal
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:08AM

    All those posting pics of dead gaza kids, will u post pics of these burnt dead ahmedi kids? If answer is no, then shame on u.

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  • Mahdi Akhbar
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:09AM

    Some days back lots of my fellow men were angry with Jews and today none of these fellow men are angry with extremist Sunnis. No wonder world calls us hypocrites.

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  • Amaar
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:15AM

    “According to details, the clash started when an Ahmadi, Saqib s/o Ahmad Din, allegedly shared a blasphemous picture with Ejaz on Facebook.”

    There was no clash; only murder of innocent Ahmadis due to bigotry of local Mullahs. When will you have shame Pakistanis!

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  • umer
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:21AM

    What a tragedy. 8 months and 5 year old. The same fire will engulf the whole nation one day. We need to secure our toddlers by dousing it immediately.

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  • Proud Pakistani
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:24AM

    As a Muslim & Pakistani, I condemn burning of houses of Ahmadis in Gujranwala. This is not the way we shall treat our fellow Pakistanis.Recommend

  • Ahmed - Karachi
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:26AM

    It’s right when we ourselves commit sins but when someone else commits them they deserve to die? Why pick on the helpless. If these people feel so strongly about Islam then why not go for jihad against the jews in Palestine? Just shows the hypocrisy of these people who call themselves Muslims.

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  • Skhan
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:35AM

    Barbaric! How dare we protest about Gaza when we have Gaza everyday in Pakistan. Hypocrisy at its worst. Ashamed to be a Pakistani. This is so brutal, brutal, brutal. I am disgusted with these inhuman and cruel people.

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  • Omer Sajeed Mallhi
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:35AM

    bravo islam saved again ……. right

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  • Osaama
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:38AM

    There is no evidence that there was a “clash.” Rather, innocent Ahmadi Muslims were killed because of their faith. The police did not do anything. The government has institutionalized persecution against Ahmadi Muslims through their blasphemy laws.

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  • Waqas Akhtar
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:40AM

    Any body knows what did he post on the facebook. Do you guys have the link to the post?

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  • Rehan
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:41AM

    Many congrats to everyone involving in this and killing kids and women. In this blessed month of ramadhan they have earned Jannah, and also to police that they couldn’t stop this happening, Allah is very happy now with them as they are showing the west proper and true image of Islam. When will the people of pakistan wakeup ? If you do disagree with someone where in Islam it says to kill them? Killing of one person is equal at killing of whole mankind. All I can do is pray for these jaahils involved in this attack and may Allah give the martyr’s whom died in this Jannah and their family sabar.

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  • Sohaib
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:47AM

    Only in Pakistan the murdered get blamed for the cruelty.
    Yes it were the Ahmadies who fired and burned their neighbours, one wonders how then they were the only one who died in the “clashes”…… Hmmm

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  • Parvez
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:48AM

    ……….and the killers will religiously celebrate EID……..DISGUSTING IN THE EXTREME.

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  • Garam Pakora
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:53AM

    It’s sad that mob set on fire the houses of innocents but why they do Blasphemy to incite voilence. Why they play with the religoius sentiments of majority of people? The results are always horrifying.

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  • muzaffar mansoor
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:54AM

    Sadly no arrest has been made in the past and will be made now shame shame

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  • Alas!
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:57AM

    Here come the followers of a religion of peace , again , to show the world that actions speak louder than words ..? I believe the people who kill people on the name of blasphemy are the real blasphemous characters and should be tried in the court and punished immediately . Otherwise Muslims will never be able to get out of the pit they have put themselves into .

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  • Sid
    Jul 28, 2014 - 5:12AM

    Well you know the name of the killers. Arrest them and prosecute them for first degree murder!!

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  • umer
    Jul 28, 2014 - 5:17AM

    The last line of the news sums up the state of affairs ‘No arrest has been made till the filing of this report’ – basically a license to carry on such ghastly acts.Recommend

  • Kiren Khan
    Jul 28, 2014 - 5:28AM

    Please follow this story and exert full media pressure to ensure that the perpetrators of this murder are brought to justice.

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  • Jul 28, 2014 - 5:29AM

    Today my head bows down in shame again for being a Pakistani. For God’s sake what is wrong with this society. Shame on the legislatures for not taking any steps during successive governments to ensure the safety of the minorities. Is anyone safe in this country anymore..really.
    This rule of the mob and the vigilante justice based purely on an allegation without any investigation is a despicable crime. What was the fault of the two children and the lady that died inside in the worst possible manner?
    Today we cry for Palestine, but what about the crimes the people and governments are committing against our very own.
    We are a pathetic society. I feel like puking at this disgusting news on the eve of the Eid.
    Shame on us.

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  • JEJ
    Jul 28, 2014 - 5:35AM

    Pakistanis are more concerned about the plight of the Palestinians. This will make headlines for a day or two. After that, Pakistan will return to a state of Islamic frenzy over events far, far away…

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  • Imran Ahsan Mirza
    Jul 28, 2014 - 5:36AM

    An Eid gift by killing people. Shame on all religious clergy of this country.

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  • Nomaan
    Jul 28, 2014 - 5:51AM

    May Allah Grant the martyred members a high place heaven. May Allah bring these heinous perpertrators their due justice and grant sense to a society that allows such barbaric instances to happen.

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  • Anon
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:07AM

    Inexplicable…Recommend

  • Your dad
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:13AM

    Typical typical…. What a disgrace my country is… Disgusting! Country for Muslims Hahahaha. We are a country of animals nothing less nothing more. Dirty animals. Actually some animals are better than us!

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  • Zeeshan Shahid
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:19AM

    That sad moment when emphasizing on “Ahmedi” is expected to raise more response than the horrific death of innocent little children, referred to coldly as “minors”.

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  • Dar
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:30AM

    Shame Shame Shame – pathetic act.. these Mullahs have ruined this country and the wrose thing is that the MAJORITY of our Nation’s mindset/thinking has been trapped/brainwashed….alas! I am speechless on this barbaric and shameful act…

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  • pm99
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:40AM

    what is the difference between the Israeli soldiers kiling and these ones. Pakistanis have no right to protest Gazans massacre unless they punish the criminals responsible for these deaths.

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  • Alfa Romeo
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:41AM

    Pakistan is for the Purest of the Pure Muslims. In other words, True Muslims Paki`s only.

    Even a 8 Month old Baby or a 5 year old kid shouldn`t be spared, they all should be burnt, stoned, beaten to death! 8 month baby can also commit blasphemy.. And all such burning, stoning etc committed in these Pious days will help!

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  • Sam
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:50AM

    Problem is with the system which does not punish the evil. Fix that and no one will even dare to harm anyone. We can talk all day long about it but don’t do much from our actions.

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  • Ammar
    Jul 28, 2014 - 7:04AM

    Legacy of gen. Zia lives on!

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  • Chachoo
    Jul 28, 2014 - 7:05AM

    I am ashamed today as a Pakistani. For me the celebrations of Chand Raat and Eid does not matter. The woman and two children were locked inside the house and then the people let these innocent people to burn alive only because of the difference of Opinion???. How low we can go from this level?.

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  • Jaahil
    Jul 28, 2014 - 7:12AM

    Old and new Jews are on the same page when it comes to show cruelty towards the weak.

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  • Singularity
    Jul 28, 2014 - 7:23AM

    @Chachoo, you are ashamed just today? I was and have been ashamed of being a Pakistani when i first discovered that Iqbal, one of the founding fathers of this country, had praised the killer of a publisher of a book, because of guess what, Blasphemy! I feel embarrassed when I see the kind of TV anchors and guests dominate our media every day, I feel ashamed to see racists openly calling minorities “bhangi” and every other nasty label in order to feel good about themselves as a Muslim, I have been ashamed to have been born in a country where people vote for a guy who cannot even own his own daughter, is there anything there left that one can be proud of?

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  • Me too, a Pakistani
    Jul 28, 2014 - 7:56AM

    Mashallah!….over a thousand innocent muslims being killed while more than 6000 injured by the jews in Gaza.i have nt seen such an intense response from you guys.

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  • Naveed
    Jul 28, 2014 - 8:12AM

    It says “According to details” now (was it “According to Ejaz” earlier?). The New York Times should be ashamed – a great paper in the U.S. has irresponsibly loose standards abroad. Shrinking budgets for overseas bureaus is no excuse. Rather than make ridiculous assumptions, just report the basics. See the BBC (Urdu) report – aka real journalism in the age of bounded rationality.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2014/07/140727gujranwalamobattackahmadihometim.shtml?ocid=socialflow_facebook

    The Tribune should take this blurb down and re-post something grounded in reality, and fact.

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  • Naveed
    Jul 28, 2014 - 8:14AM

    Just to be clear, “According to details” is literally non-sensical. “Details” is not a source (person, organization, etc.) and gives the entire piece a typical “lets try to frame — i.e., cover up — anti-Ahmadi violence as some squabble that can be pinned on the Ahmadis themselves” flavor. Cheap tactic that The Tribune should be ashamed of supporting.

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  • WB
    Jul 28, 2014 - 8:25AM

    @Ammar:

    This one is a legacy of Bhutto and not Zia.

    And you give it more thought, you will realize that this is a direct result (not even a legacy) of blindly adhering to scripture without thinking.

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  • Ali
    Jul 28, 2014 - 8:34AM

    And we mourn only for Gaza now. jews and their produce are dedicated to the killings of innocents, women and children too

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  • Np
    Jul 28, 2014 - 8:41AM

    @pm99:
    The difference is that the Israeli soldiers only fire on Hamas areas not on known cilian areas and only when they are fired. Upon. They do not start it.

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  • Amir
    Jul 28, 2014 - 8:52AM

    So where is Shahbaz sharif; Nawaz Sharif; Imran Khan and the lots…will they condemn this as they are condemning Gaza? NO?

    I have heard that the police just stood and watched.

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  • JEJ
    Jul 28, 2014 - 9:40AM

    Too much Iman and Jazba is sometimes not so good.

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  • thruthseeker
    Jul 28, 2014 - 9:44AM

    I condemn this incident. Now that’s taken care off, lets go and beat our chest about Palestine. Oh, Indian is bad, there were riots in Saharanpur, Sikh business were burnt, do not remember by whom

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  • Saim Baig
    Jul 28, 2014 - 9:46AM

    Not so different from Israel after all.

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  • Rafay
    Jul 28, 2014 - 9:47AM

    It depends upon the content that was shared. If it was really blasphemous, then execution is the law (as in Shariah). But the way it was done, suffocating children to death should be objected. No kids should be harmed. Its funny how the real culprit (if he was) is alive and the innocent died.

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  • sk
    Jul 28, 2014 - 9:47AM

    This is so called religion of peace.raise your voice like you do for gaza!

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  • anwar
    Jul 28, 2014 - 9:55AM

    I m so much disappointed with this falsely reporting

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  • Rana Ajeet
    Jul 28, 2014 - 10:26AM

    What is the use of taking action against Taliban of KP when most Pakistanis are intolerant Taliban

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  • Thotatum25
    Jul 28, 2014 - 10:29AM

    @pm99:
    The Hamas fires rockets into Israel. Three Israelis were kidnapped and killed. As far as we know the Ahmadis aren’t doing any of these things.

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  • Kashan
    Jul 28, 2014 - 10:33AM

    Very sad!!! Gaza in Pakistan. There is no government writ. Shame PML(N)

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  • SA
    Jul 28, 2014 - 10:47AM

    I guess we should forget Gaza and start praying for the peace of our own country. Additionally as far as I know the system of our beloved country NO action would be carried out on the people who did this inhumane act burning minors alive. This case will also be buried deep soon. I feel sorry for the family of the people who died in this act of insanity. #SavePakistan

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  • farhan nawaz
    Jul 28, 2014 - 10:49AM

    there are three hundred countries in the world why only in some countries bloodshed think about this world

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  • Bewildered
    Jul 28, 2014 - 10:52AM

    @Rafay:

    “It depends upon the content that was shared. If it was really blasphemous, then execution is the law (as in Shariah)…..”

    I don’t know which school you attended, but your comment suggests it wasn’t good enough to teach you the importance of observing the laws. You just cannot take law in your own hands and start delivering justice without giving the accused any opportunity to defend himself against the allegations in an impartial court. That is why, for this purpose, every country has courts and elaborate legal procedures to follow in order to convict/acquit an accused. You can not kill a murderer by yourself even if you are the eye-witness. In any civilized country, you would be charged for committing the crime of murder, if you do so. And this is exactly the crime that has been committed in Gujranwala as per the laws of Pakistan Penal Code.

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  • Intisar
    Jul 28, 2014 - 10:53AM

    I guess no Eid for the family that lost their loved ones. The worst are ones who danced and rejoiced in the streets at the burning of the innocents.

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  • rg
    Jul 28, 2014 - 11:02AM

    The next time I see the nonsense ‘Save Pakestine’ , ‘Save Gaza’ posts polluting my news-feed on facebook, I’m going to post this article and ask the Indian Muslims to look what’s happening closer to India. See what your brethren are doing.

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  • Narendra
    Jul 28, 2014 - 11:06AM

    Who made you inhuman?

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  • Bewildered
    Jul 28, 2014 - 11:11AM

    “Deen-e-Mullah Fi-Lilaha Fasaad”, Iqbal identified this Mullaha-menace a century ago. As long as Mullah exists, the troubles will continue where ever they are. Please get rid of them, if we have to make any progress in this world, and, I am sure, also in hereafter as well. One way to do that could be to implement Turkish model with full force, or just kill them all.Recommend

  • Aysha M
    Jul 28, 2014 - 11:23AM

    Like charity, advocacy for justice, equity and tolerance should begin at home. Those of us clamouring for peace and condemning barbaric acts in Gaza, should with equal perhaps more vehemence condemn this heinous and cowardly act. If the perpetrators are not apprehended and get police protection like it did, it is going to spread. It will follow the same trajectory, starting with putting on fire Ahamdi muslims’ houses,then shias and then that of minority sunni factions. May peace and light be on all ameen

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  • Mohar g
    Jul 28, 2014 - 11:26AM

    This is ridiculous! This is our beloved country got in the name of Islam. But if this is Islam, its shameful for every Pakistani.
    We only can pray that Allah will take the revenge from the people of this nation.

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  • Big Fat Liar
    Jul 28, 2014 - 11:28AM

    I ve read with apparent disgust with which Punjabi vigilante justice is consuming minorities. If the Facebook post was indeed blasphemous, a simple arrest and court appearance would have settled the matter once and for all. However, I m stumped at the venom being spewed out by the muckadoos yet again on this scale. Those frothing at their mouths were on a Gaza Solidarity vacation when 1 million Internally Displaced Pakistanis were bombed out of their homes and forced to flee without their belongings, just to see their homes and livelihoods destroyed. An estimated 300 civilians were martyred, including newborn children and pregnant women from indiscriminate bombing and shelling which was being cheered by all the haters. Simply because Pushtun blood is better spilt. I guess what goes around comes around.

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  • disgusted
    Jul 28, 2014 - 11:35AM

    Lets see how some Einsteins here will start to rationalize the murder by these pakistani muslims, by talking about what is going on in Gaza. These rationalizers are as disgusting as are those “Pakistani Muslims” who are responsible for the death of these “other” pakistanis! These same Pakistani Muslims when they go to the west demand all sorts of rights as minority there, but back in their own home they deprive the minorities even the right to live!

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  • Jogger
    Jul 28, 2014 - 11:44AM

    While I denounce what happened in Gujrawala of burning of a house and killing, I must state that a page which is presumably being run by an Ahmadi, Have ridiculed Islams many times. I dont know why some purposely commit an of incitement which instigates violence and causes complications to ensue

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  • disgusted
    Jul 28, 2014 - 11:47AM

    @Bewildered:
    do you realize that the character you are referring to was full of praise for the murderer of a publisher of a book that the “Muslims” found blaspemous. Iqbal is not a character you would want to mention if you want to talk about sanity and tolerance!

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  • Mirror
    Jul 28, 2014 - 11:56AM

    @Jogger:
    yes blame the victim. Totally despicable!

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  • butt
    Jul 28, 2014 - 12:11PM

    That was under the nose of custodians and scholars following others.

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  • aamer tanoli
    Jul 28, 2014 - 12:14PM

    its very shameful acting.islam discourage such acts.shame on those who kills innocents and shame on those who blame islam ,do islam preaches such acts. yes if they post any blaspehmous material,thats v wrong,the one who post should be brough to justice but killing women and children is v v wrong can never be justified on any ground.

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  • butt
    Jul 28, 2014 - 12:15PM

    @Me too, a Pakistani:
    That was under the nose of custodians and scholars following others. you have not seen does not mean that there is response.

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  • Muhammad
    Jul 28, 2014 - 12:17PM

    if it was a clash where is Zakriya allegedly had injured with fires from other side. Can you report his injuries and any other injured from Mob which has resulted in Killing of two children and a woman and several injured. Please report honestly if you have courage.

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  • Farhan
    Jul 28, 2014 - 12:35PM

    The killing is not tolerated but Blasphemy we will never tolerate. First wait for complete report of incident then comments………

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  • Jul 28, 2014 - 12:56PM

    @Nomaan: “May Allah bring these heinous perpertrators their due justice and grant sense to a society that allows such barbaric instances to happen.” — Why do you leave every thing on Allah to bring justice , bring sense to the society? Why don’t you try something to bring justice ? why like minded people do not get down on the streets demanding justice ? No if it can not be done ( don’t have the courage) then stop all the fake sympathy.

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  • Moiz Omar
    Jul 28, 2014 - 12:59PM

    R.I.P.

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  • ZIA UR REHMAN
    Jul 28, 2014 - 1:09PM

    Shocking news. Shame on Police who failed to protect

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  • Kolsat
    Jul 28, 2014 - 1:29PM

    My advice to all Pakistanis and Muslims is before you cast a stone on India, complaining about its treatment of minorities, look at yourself and how intolerant Muslims and pakistani societies are. To all Pakistanis who call Indian Prime Minister bad names I say that the person who was sent to control the Godhra riots was Lt. Gen. Zameeruddin Shah who is now the VC of Aligarh Muslim University.

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  • Talha
    Jul 28, 2014 - 1:33PM

    Pakistan is just as bad as Israel.

    No wonder most people in this world look at Pakistan with so much contempt.

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  • SGN
    Jul 28, 2014 - 1:40PM

    @Garam Pakora I bet you also believe the Gazans brought their current predicament upon themselves by refusing to just die on their own thus hurting the sentiments of the Israeli majority.

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  • SGN
    Jul 28, 2014 - 1:44PM

    @”Me too, a Pakistani” do you know for a fact that the people who have commented have not expressed outrage about Gaza? If not, you are at best intellectually dishonest for suggesting so, and at worst a bigot who thinks that somehow the hatred of one party towards a second is justifiable countered by the hatred of a third party over a fourth.

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  • Sohaib
    Jul 28, 2014 - 2:12PM

    ET please show some courage and do some real reporting.. Not hearsay evidence! Please!!!!

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  • Taimur khan
    Jul 28, 2014 - 2:25PM

    I am not an Ahmadi……but I want justice for those killed. I am ashamed of this murder, and I too want justice for the innocent. This stupid concept of blasphemy needs to be cleansed from the Pakistani psyche.

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  • Shafiq A.R.
    Jul 28, 2014 - 2:40PM

    @WB:

    While once again Bhutto started it, it wasn’t until Zia passed Ordinance XX and Blasphemy law that such incidents started to take place.

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  • Observer
    Jul 28, 2014 - 2:46PM

    @Taimur khan:
    You cannot get rid of the germs of these kind of laws when people do not have anything else of value that they have developed on their own. It is pretty easy to feel self righteous and powerful by killing minorities in your country. In the next 100 years , if this country survives, maybe the people will have something of real value to feel secure about themselves and do not have the need to kill others to feel worthy

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  • Noon Ghunna
    Jul 28, 2014 - 2:56PM

    Forget it. We are too busy in protesting for Gaza.

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  • Usman
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:03PM

    You know what – everyone who claims to be a muslim – you are all full of hypocrisy!

    You can stand for Gaza but you will never condemn the killing of innocent Ahmadies and the amazing bit is all of you get to speculate their beliefs!

    What a disgrace this nation has turned out to be and what a disgrace has come out of the people of this nation!

    I wish Zia Ul Haq never existed!

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  • ZZQ
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:07PM

    Deplorable indeed. The culprits in the gang must be caught and brought to justice. No one should be allowed to take law in hands.

    To start with, the police should simply catch try that son of Masjid imam who lead the gang!

    Pakistan Haters, please do not compare this with Gaza! both are separate and atrocities in both cases are deplorable.

    Very rightly said by ‘me too a Pakistani’. Didn’t see such overwhelming response at over 1200 innocent children killed in Gaza!

    May Allah SWT protect the innocent.

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  • Ek Pakistani
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:14PM

    Those who were involved in this issue should be burned alive.

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  • zaid hamid
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:16PM

    This is a conspiracy against Pakistan. Nothing like this happened. This is a media created story. There was no one in the house when the fire accindently happened. Shame ??? That’s a small word

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  • mrs ahmed
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:27PM

    two states created in the name of religion in late 1940s and look how humanity is treated , in these countries , it proves religion is for people and not for states , the sooner pakistanis get rid of all kind of MULLAHS the better for every one who may be adherent of various faiths , ahmedis are most persecuteed minority in pakistan and lone voice in support on an official level is by MQM , people should pay heed that once we rid us of religion in the realm of politice , until then this abysmal slide continues.

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  • Kashif
    Jul 28, 2014 - 3:43PM

    Things like these, end even worse, happen everyday in Punjab. Just read the newspapers. I do not understand why you are making such a fuss about this particular incident? Is is because some ahmadis were killed this time? Or may be because some mullah was involved? Stop pin pointing mullahs, muslims and islam. The problem is within yourselves.

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  • Jul 28, 2014 - 3:47PM

    Now I understand why Jews hate and kill Palestines. Pakistan is lucky that it has no border with Israel.

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  • Mobeen
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:27PM

    “No arrests were made…” ..Islamic justice in PakistanRecommend

  • Dr. Shafique
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:27PM

    @from Gujranwala:

    Don’t take the ostrich’s “head-in-sand” attitude by blaming this paper because it has reported the incident which is not the first or the last one of its kind in Pakistan, a country that has gained international notoriety for its barbaric treatment of minorities. Yet, people like you have the temerity to complain about the treatment of Muslim minorities in other countries where they enjoy far more rights than in Pakistan. By the way, if you care to read, stories about the killings of the Ahmadi family, have made the headlines today in the international media — thus, it is not just ET that has reported about the cold-blooded murders of a family, including a toddler and a minor child. You must be very proud and sleep well tonight!Recommend

  • Cosmo
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:35PM

    @Waqas Akhtar:
    That is irrelavant. Human beings are no one to say how one should interact with his/her god.

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  • we
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:37PM

    I am ashamed of being a Pakistani citizen

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  • Waqas Akhtar
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:48PM

    For the Muslims: This is one of the most shameful thing we as a muslim do. But when there is no rule of law to decided the matters then people will do it themselves.
    For the Non-Muslims: Why do they feel proud by doing anything blasphemous? Why respect & honor of Holy prophets not taken care of seriously? Why do they have to say something disputable and expect roses in return?

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  • socko
    Jul 28, 2014 - 4:48PM

    @Kashif, Shame on you

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  • OSAMA
    Jul 28, 2014 - 5:10PM

    These so called Muslims proved that there is no protection of Minorities in the Pakistan. Government of Pakistan is using these terrorist for their political purpose. There is a lake of tolerance for minorities in this country. Even they did not respect Holy Month of Ramazan and killed innocent people. That is why this country is not progress because they have created lot of racism in it. People before hiring and doing business being asked about sect whether you are Shia, Sunni or belong to other minority sects. People are leaving this country because of Religious Extremism. Pakistan Army should take an action against these religious extremist in Pakistan. Other wise survival of this country will be difficult.

    All should Pray for the peace and Prosperity of Pakistan.

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  • Syeda Kazmi
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:14PM

    and what about the thousands of blasphemous photos shared by sunni shia for each other??? y ahmedis every time…

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  • Down with the hatemongers
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:26PM

    So should we not get to see this Ejaz guy and should he be accountable for these murders..the last blasphemy case I remember was more of a personal nature and was given a blasphemy twist. Civil society should stand up against this atrocity. The ones murdered were kids and this Ejaz should not be given a free pass

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  • zer0
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:30PM

    to all over hyped commenting peoples..

    Why is there soo much uproar when Ahmadi’s are killed?? seriously, i fail to understand. when soo many perished in model town, even than there was not such uproar in ETs comment box. No one cares when people get killed daily in Karachi and other part of the country, but when a Qadiyani is killed there is sudden hala hola that i feel ashamed being Pakistani, this and that.. weird peoples!

    What happened is bad, must not have happened.

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  • Muhammad Rizwan Ali
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:37PM

    Again this happened in Punjab, where all PMLN leaders, and Ministers lives,
    This fire must have taken hours, but still CM could not informed, what a shame CM

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  • Waseem
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:39PM

    This is why everyone in the world hates Muslims as this is the face of ISLAM these days.

    What did they achieve?… killing women and children in the month of ramadhan, you gave garuenteed them Jannah (inshallah) and yourself Ja’hanum (inshallah).

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  • suleman
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:51PM

    What has two nation theory got to do with this incidence
    Its a shame how people try using an event to manipulate the mind of the weak
    However the two nation theory will bother you if your interests and motives are on the contrary..
    So r.I.p.your media/I.t cell’s Attempt at trolling a post!

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  • Anonymous
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:54PM

    Rizwaz Ali, please do not play politics over regions saying these things happen only in Punjab. KP is far worse.
    There is no security system in place in KP and IDP’S are suffering. IK wants to break the country into two as per wishes of his Jewish wife.Recommend

  • Milind
    Jul 28, 2014 - 6:55PM

    @mrs ahmed – “two states created in the name of religion in late 1940s and look how humanity is treated , in these countries , it proves religion is for people and not for states “

    Ma’am Israel is far lenient with its Arab citizens… They get religious freedom, voting rights and representation in the Knesset. They’re well off living with their Jew compatriots.
    Its so-called “inhumane treatment” is for the folks who are not its citizens, but then Hamas is also using the Palestinians as human shields. Additionally, almost all countries do not have shining records, while dealing with “enemy” states…and Israel is as good or bad as the rest. (though still better than Pakistan which slaughtered 3 million of its own citizens in 1971).

    ET – Don’t know what your benchmarks are.. But my posts are not being published. Not sure why.. Hope this one does…

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  • tahir
    Jul 28, 2014 - 7:13PM

    Here we go again.
    No police report /FIR will be registered.
    NO comments by the Government high ups.
    No one will be arrested for killing 8 months old and five year old Kafir Ahmadi children
    Mullah will rampage against Ahmadis more and ignorant ,illiterate Public will be encouraged to kill more heretic Ahmadis.
    Muslims of Pakistan are celebrating Eid and Ramazan by killing Ahmadis once again.
    Jinnah was fortunate to have died in 1948 ,otherwise he would also have been killed by the Mullah.
    Mullah is the root cause,so castrate the clergy and save Pakistan.
    Don’t you see,all the Talibans and terrorists are Qaris ,Hafiz and Maulanas.

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  • AllahRukha
    Jul 28, 2014 - 7:17PM

    Barbaric.

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  • sad
    Jul 28, 2014 - 7:34PM

    This is so heartbreaking.Shame on molvies, mullas and all the religious fanatics. Shame on the perpetrators, their supporters and onlookers. Shame on the government for doing nothing to arrest the killers and the supporters.

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  • Thinking Indian
    Jul 28, 2014 - 8:03PM

    @Garam Pakora:
    This mentality leads to such tragedies and give a bad name to Islam & Pakistan.
    What these fanatics think blasphemous is generally a legitimate freedom of expression in the civilized world. Allah is capable to decide & punish those who insult him. He does not need such barbaric actions of his followers to protect his honour.

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  • Bewildered
    Jul 28, 2014 - 8:22PM

    @disgusted:

    “@Bewildered: do you realize that the character you are referring to was full of praise for the murderer of a publisher of a book that the “Muslims” found blaspemous. Iqbal is not a character you would want to mention if you want to talk about sanity and tolerance!”

    My reference to Iqbal is even more pertinent because despite his strong religious inclinations —- as obvious from his praise for the killer of the publisher of a blasphemous book — yet he thought of Mullahs as the hate-mongering trouble making creatures of the lowest order — scum of the earth, to be precise — and pleaded naive Muslims not to pay heed to them.

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  • ASalman
    Jul 28, 2014 - 9:07PM

    so shameful. I am not Ahmadi and I condemn such killings

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  • Kashmiri Pandit
    Jul 28, 2014 - 10:04PM

    Very tragic that loss of human life is seen through the prism of religion, sect and what not.
    Can we see every death , every killing as killing of our fellow human being.

    I am atleast assured by majority comments here that Pakistan is not all about what

    ` media here makes out it to be. There are innumerable people who despise violence in the
    name of religion.

    @ Garam Pakora…Freedom of speech does guarantee one to say the absurd thing, which
    can be debated in a civil society, but no civil society allows one to snuff ones life as per
    `whims and fancies of a select few.
    Your opinion about “my God “, does not anyway diminish my faith in him. Is that So ?
    As a responsible citizen of a free nation one need to to think hard on this , isn’t It?

    We can only wish that the souls of those little kids may rest in eternal peace.
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  • Kashif
    Jul 28, 2014 - 10:10PM

    Please stop blaming mullah, molvis and islam. If an ordinary person cuts off the arms of a child, kills his daughter or sister in the name of karo-kari/ghairat, or murders an entire family just because they refused to wed their daughter with their son, your attitude is like “this happens, it is nothing new”. Why is it that you only make a fuss if the person committing the crime is a molvi or has a beard. Try to understand my point: the problem lies within people. The blasphemy law is there but it is misused by these same people. If not blasphemy then they would have used some other lame excuse. People burn other people’s houses out of hatred and make silly excuses in court. Stop making wrong conclusions from this tragic incident. You want to condemn something, condemn the judiciary system that allows people to commit crimes and get away with them. If islamic laws practiced the way it should, people would think a dozen times before committing crimes, or, even accusing someone of blasphemy.

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  • abdul
    Jul 28, 2014 - 10:14PM

    @mikek:
    because it is a local issue. home grown and nourished by sharif brothers.

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  • Iqbal
    Jul 28, 2014 - 10:15PM

    And all because MAJ wanted a muslim Pakistan although he was an atheist. Mr Modi’s new India should take all minorities back to India.
    It is extremely cheeky of Pakistan to claim Hafeez Saeed is innocent because there is no “proof”. I wonder if there is any proof here and whether the culprits will ever be caught.
    I am glad I left Pakistan long time ago. I will only return when it becomes part of India. Note I said “when” and not “if”. To all the minorities in Pakistan please keep hope and move to India. If there are revenge attacks in India and muslims are killed then Pakistan will get upset. I wonder why? Keep living in the 7th century.

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  • Danial
    Jul 28, 2014 - 10:30PM

    1st which picture…?
    2nd it is an unhuman act
    3rd nothing on media
    Shame shame shame….

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  • A Peace Lover
    Jul 28, 2014 - 11:14PM

    All over in European media news included in prime news specailly by Euro News. On this sad incident supreme head of Ahamdiyya issued follwoing statement which is self explanatory.
    “This attack was an act of the most extreme cruelty and brutality, whereby innocent people who were sitting peacefully in their own homes were attacked and left for dead.
    It has been falsely claimed that this attack was provoked by a member of the Ahmadiyya Community. This allegation is completely untrue and without any foundation whatsoever. If those who perpetrated this attack truly felt that 1 person had provoked them then they should have sought his arrest but instead they chose to burn alive an elderly lady and her two granddaughters. In truth, this was an entirely unprovoked assault on all forms of human decency which led to the death of 3 people including 2 very young children.This attack took place as the local police stood by and watched and took no action. It is yet another example of how the authorities in Pakistan are aiding the persecution of Ahmadi members of the community. Let it be clear that we Ahmadis will never undertake any worldly protest and nor will we ever take to the streets. Our response to all of the sustained persecution that we face is, and will always remain, to bow down before Allah the Almighty and to seek His Help and Mercy.This barbaric attack was conducted in the name of Islam, whilst the truth is that such violence has nothing to do with Islam or its teachings. Such merciless attacks can only be deemed as inhumane in the extreme. These types of vicious assaults are nothing but a stain on the pure and peaceful teachings of Islam.To kill and to violently oppose is not an act of Islam but it is the act of those people who do not believe in God and do not even possess the most basic human values or decency”.

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  • bill
    Jul 28, 2014 - 11:33PM

    @Az:
    If you cannot see the difference there is not point in trying to explain it to you or the 400 people who voted your stupid and ignorant comment. All either Muslims themselves or liberal lefties no doubt

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  • Shahzad
    Jul 29, 2014 - 12:23AM

    Not so Proud of being a Pakistani!

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  • Abbas Mehdi
    Jul 29, 2014 - 1:00AM

    It’s a slap on the face of humanity and all those who pledge their support for Palestinians while showing a cold shoulder to atrocities carried out against minorities in Pakistan.

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  • Huma
    Jul 29, 2014 - 2:19AM

    @shah
    Thousands of Muslims were killed in India by modi. Why are you dragging the two nation theory into this?Recommend

  • Noman
    Jul 29, 2014 - 2:22AM

    @Kashif: Indeed a sane comment when the self-loathing breed of Pakistanis blabbers on to expose their ludicrousness.

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  • Aatif
    Jul 29, 2014 - 2:58AM

    not sure about the extent or purpose of sharing the photo on facebook … but firing by ahmadis made it worst and the mob’s reaction after that was what people get to do where law enforcement bodies fail … Had there been some rule of law, the incident of photo sharing could have been managed in a better way.

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  • Aamed
    Jul 29, 2014 - 4:59AM

    With so many people condemning such acts, you would think they were the true representatives of the prevailing attitude in Pakistan. Sadly, the people commenting here an other forums are a minority… The majority are the ones that burned those houses, who support such acts, and are now celebrating the deaths on Eid.

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  • Mega
    Jul 29, 2014 - 5:34AM

    @huma. “Thousands of Muslims were killed by modi” prove your statement,chalenge. If Supreme Court could not find proof in same verbal attacks from opposition opportunist party talking nonsense about modi for political gain in election,how would you? And FYI its 790 Muslims in response to 254 Hindus who were killed. Do a little research before making your own figures. And btw all rioters who killed Hindus and Muslims are in jail. We have excellent laws in the country unlike yours.

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  • bashir
    Jul 29, 2014 - 8:35AM

    Let us see how doesKhadim_e _aala reacts.There will be no funds or sympathies to add to his popularity.

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  • shami
    Jul 29, 2014 - 7:46PM

    Shame on all ppl…poor innocent kids n women.. shame shame..all those who ate involved in this killing may you never find peace ever…

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  • mobi
    Jul 29, 2014 - 11:06PM

    3 Ahmadi Muslims killed
    1 Unborn child Killed
    8 Homes burned
    Police bystanders
    Ambulances stoned
    Islam Saved
    Eid Mubarak Gujranwala Pakistan

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  • RHS
    Jul 29, 2014 - 11:54PM

    What a disgusting state of affairs. When are the Angrez Sahib’s coming back?

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  • mosawwir
    Jul 30, 2014 - 11:25AM

    Being an Ahmadi, I do not expect any justice of this brutality from these silent spectators and the law of this country. But let me tell you that Allah will do justice one day as Allah is seeing everything. I strongly believe that Allah’s justice would be the real justice.

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  • Atiq
    Jul 31, 2014 - 9:46PM

    To much misconception in this accident. Any body have link of uploaded photo/video which one caused of this tragedy????

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