NATO choppers violate Pakistani airspace again

Published: November 3, 2010

A file photo of a Nato-led coalition soldier firing during an operation against militants. PHOTO: REUTERS

PESHAWAR: 

Three Nato helicopters flew inside Pakistani territory in Lower Kurram Agency on Tuesday, violating the country’s airspace for the third time.

According to officials, the incident occurred at around 5:00 pm. The Nato helicopters entered up to 600 metres inside Pakistan, including the areas of Borki, Kharlaki and Kurram and hovered in Pakistani airspace for 20 minutes. These areas lie close to the Afghan border.

Officials said that the flight of Nato helicopters spread panic among the locals, who remained inside their houses fearing bombing of the area. A military official told The Express Tribune that it was not an airspace violation, adding that the helicopters were dumping supplies at a check post close to the border –  which the authorities were aware of.

Earlier, on September 30, two Nato helicopters opened fire on a border post in the Kurram Agency, killing three paramilitary soldiers and injuring three others. Pakistan had closed the border with Afghanistan after the incident, halting Nato supplies going through the country. The supply line was restored more than a week after the US tendered an official apology for the cross-border attack on security forces.

Published in The Express Tribune, November 3rd, 2010.

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Reader Comments (34)

  • Moise
    Nov 2, 2010 - 6:42PM

    Bye bye sovereignty, good morning crusaders.Recommend

  • Nov 2, 2010 - 6:53PM

    So what… Drone’s do it everyday.. Recommend

  • Copper
    Nov 2, 2010 - 7:16PM

    Where is the “professional” pakistan army? hiding in their barracks? Ahh I see! this is not the civilian Prime Minister against whom they can roarRecommend

  • noon
    Nov 2, 2010 - 8:43PM

    Boss is always right. Bigger has no choiceRecommend

  • ahmer
    Nov 2, 2010 - 9:20PM

    bloody 7th largest army, equipped with latest technology war machines, but cowards you don’t need weapons you need guts, kafir hai to shamsheer pe karta hai bhrosa….momin hai to be taig bhe larta hai sepahi…………..Pak army zinda?Recommend

  • Nawal Butt
    Nov 2, 2010 - 9:29PM

    :-(

    “If Army will not take sticked action against violations and killing in Pakistan by NATO and America that going on and army when army blocks supply then their soldier were killed……we should understand all what is happening in our country”Recommend

  • Anoop
    Nov 2, 2010 - 10:49PM

    How is sovereignty violated when even the Pakistani army cant go into that area? If Pakistan claims sovereignty then it should enforce it.Recommend

  • Imran Yousaf Rajput
    Nov 2, 2010 - 10:58PM

    What violation, Pakistan is his alliance and getting financial help from them to fight against terrorists. So, if they killed or target the area inside ALLIES BOUNDARY there’s no such issue to highlight. Recommend

  • Nov 2, 2010 - 11:00PM

    Pak Army wont retaliate, unless they bomb any army check post. And I am sure NATO forces will be careful this time, they will kill as many civilians as they can but no army man.

    Pak army is best in the world, indeed.Recommend

  • Akhtar
    Nov 2, 2010 - 11:48PM

    This is BALAY BALAY an army that has been defeated three times by India is being urged by crake pots to take on United States. Only thing you will get a sure defeat. A professional army is one that knows it’s strength and they are just being professional and realistic.don’t people understand that America is exercising it’s right to defend it’s forces being attacked by jihadi thugs?Recommend

  • Independent Journalist
    Nov 3, 2010 - 12:18AM

    Pakistani media should stop portraying that is victims of sovereignty violations and instead focus its resources on the Pakistani government, the criticism of foreign aid packages ( or ” buyout bribes as i deem it” ) and also get to places where the C.I.A is conducting its operations. The people should stop buying corporate products that give the economic power for these military forces to exist. This should be the focus of the media – however and unfortunately true journalism is dead in the 21st century and independent journalist are left scrambling when it comes to raising their voice on issues that really matter.Recommend

  • Ade
    Nov 3, 2010 - 1:31AM

    To Mr Akhtar,

    An army that has been defeated three times by India? If that is true then technically, your forces should be sitting IN Pakistan but it somehow they are in Indian barracks. I wonder how? It seems blatant that you are just sitting on your couch and making up history. Well done you. If you are literate enough you should be able to see that all NATO helicopters have done is spend 20 minutes in Pakistani air space, most probably obtaining reconnaissance. NATO has aided Pakistan during the flooding and in the past few days. A professional army knows its strength, and it also knows not to bite the hand that feeds it. Kindly reply with credible information and not propaganda.Recommend

  • Ali Farooqui
    Nov 3, 2010 - 1:38AM

    @ Akhter : I agree that the reason behind Pakistan Army’s lack of response is strategic but not because of fear as you put it but because its contra productive to its strategy to maintain ties with both Talibans and America. As these choppers did not react but hovered for about 20 minutes there could be only two possible reasons A) Recon (which I doubt as they have satellites for that) or B) to force a response and pick a fight. therefore the decision not to attack them was a highly sensible one

    and about the right to defend, I hope you use the same argument when they attack a few miles inside on your home

    on a different note

    These attacks whether drone or otherwise are killing more civilians than the terrorists, this war is so fragile that civilian casualty completely negates the purpose of these strikes the more innocent civilians they kill the more hate and revenge they are breeding. Recommend

  • Akhtar
    Nov 3, 2010 - 2:14AM

    To Ade
    Dear sir history is this
    In 1947 India occupied Kashmir and is still there in 1971 it invaded east Pakistan and that is now a separate country and in 1965 it reached gates of Lahore and india stopes only because of international pressure my comment is same as second part of your blabberRecommend

  • Ade
    Nov 3, 2010 - 3:35AM

    To Mr Akhtar
    Your first comment indicates that Pakistan did not attack the NATO helicopters, due to the fact that they will “get a sure defeat”. I am pointing out to you that Pakistan will NOT attack NATO helicopters because they are friendly, allies, associates, accomplices (whichever term you understand).
    International pressure on India indeed! Pakistan soundly defeated India in 1965, and further pressed on onto Indian soil and it was Pakistan that was asked to stop by the World powers that were asked to intervene. As I said, kindly stop making up such atrocious historical ‘facts’.
    This is my last post as I cannot stoop to your intellectual level and do not wish to turn this news article into an argument. Recommend

  • Sialkotia
    Nov 3, 2010 - 4:26AM

    @ Moises . This year’s Figure is 601 so far and number increasing. Do you Know what number is this? Find out on icasualities.com . 10 years war in Afghanistan and still worse than when you came there. I wished your Wise President George Dubliew should have listened to Gorbachov. How sad !!!! But What can be done now? Nothing. Moises those Armies who win a war win it in few days or month or few years BUT 10 years? And specially when your casualities start rising after year 5 is a bad sign. That simply means Your leadership is lying to the Taxpayers in America. You are Losing it .Just like Soviets and British and those invaders came before them. . we all Know what happens to Soviet Union after the Afghan War. We wish you best of Luck Or else Bye bye sovereignty crusaders. How many states became independent of the Soviet Union Moises? will end on a Note that “Afghanistan is THE GRAVEYARDS of EMPIRES ! British Empire, Russian Empire and It’s your Turn Now. INDIAN EMPIRE Looks very willing after you are gone to try waters. So welcome to Afghanistan “The Graveyard of EMPIRES!!!

    @ Copper
    Ohhhh Copper… How Innocent you are..??? Or are you just pretending? I am surprised that you are asking the question ” Where is pakistani Professional Army”? ahh Cooper, let me ask you this? Where is the Biggest war Machine of the world in the bordering areas of pakitsan and Afghanistan? are they present there? where are their forward bunkers once they build and had to vacate after heavy attacks by Taliban? After they killed 9 in one attack in one incident, all those bunkers are gone empty? And you are asking the question where is pakistani Army?where is your army? In barrecks? Killing only Afghan civilians because I don’t see them fighting Talibans? And on top of it More talibans are Kill your soldiers , more you are willing to talk to them. Where is your brave army? Why don’t they fight Taliban? It will be even foolish to ask where Pakistan army is? Pakistan Army is securing Your Life line that is your SUPPLY LINE. Without which Talibans will devour you within no time. And you want to fight Pak army now to cut your own supply line? Well, I can see What caused your defeat in Vietnam, Copper? Perhaps the same strategy?. Hillarious..And there is One more thing , your SPECIAL Friends who are hiding under disguise under your umbrella in Afghanistan will have to leave Afghanistan as they did when Soviets were defeated there. Recommend

  • Munir Khan
    Nov 3, 2010 - 5:30AM

    there was a time when 300 Muslims punished and killed the army of thousands but they are finished by the time now we cant find the MOMINS who believe in Allah and his Orders. we are only by name and by chance Muslims Allah ham sab ko IEMAN naseeb farmaye.Recommend

  • ahmed
    Nov 3, 2010 - 6:56AM

    The master is always right. Got remember who pays the bills for Pakistan. Aye, Aye sir!

    AhmedRecommend

  • Arfan
    Nov 3, 2010 - 7:13AM

    @ Akhtar
    In 1947 India launched a very clever, stage managed invasion of Kashmir; using aircraft and land transport to transport their units. In response Pakistan urgently mobilised irregulars (and some regular troops) to counter the move. In what should have been a walk over, India suffered badly – losing 1/3 of the state they should have just strolled into. Not exactly the stupendous victory you ellude to dear chap!

    In 1965, on paper it could be considered a stalemate as neither army was able to push home their advantages. India failed to do this in the early hours of the conflict. This later made Gen Chaudhary look like an idiot who had promised to have tea at the Lahore Gymkhana. Nor the Pakistanis, who had managed to destroy in excess of 120 Indian tanks at Chawinda. Strategucally however, whenyou consider the sizes of the forces involved (Pak was approximately 1/3rd India’s size), then its quite clear the Indians shoud have been able to do more, much more than they did. Fortunately (or unfortunatley, depending on which side you slant), the Pakistanis did a bloody good job defending their land and halting the Indian juggernaut. And yes, the Indians sought international assistance when they noticed the Chinese were positioning their troops along the Indo-Chinese border – 1962 again? It was definitely believeable for the Indians, hence call to the UN and the Russians.

    So simplify this Indian ‘advnace’ only stopping at Lahore gates because of international pressure – would demonstrate either your naivity or arrogance to the events that unfolded then. Furtrher, it most definitely illuminates sheer ignorance of the troops (YOUR Indian troops) who perished without any acknoweldgement to their plight. Oh dear – poor buggers!

    In 1971, granted that was clearly an Indian victory. But then again, what would you expect? 95,000 defending Pakistani troops, against a 300,000 attacking Indian force, with an estimated 45,000 rebels/traitors (again choose the word you would describe the Mukhti Bahani) hiding amongst the civilian populations.

    So facts are there – distort them as much as you may wish, but on the face of it dear man, the score would read Pakistan 2 India 1 – touche and tally ho!Recommend

  • ABID HUSSAIN
    Nov 3, 2010 - 7:19AM

    this is the time pakistan,take a strong action,agaist them,pakistan is a indepandent country ,just help amrica to fight against terrism,we must protest on this violation,not softly but strongly. we are muslims and we trust on ALLAH,amrica can not do any thing with pakistan ,i request pakistan govt please trust on pakistane peoples,we will fight ,but on any cost we can not compromise on our indepandenseRecommend

  • Rajat
    Nov 3, 2010 - 8:25AM

    India never occupied kashmir. KASHMIR IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF INDIA. It has been so in the past, it will be so in the future.Recommend

  • M Dawood
    Nov 3, 2010 - 8:28AM

    I’m all up for it……they should go all the way in to islamabad and carpet bomb all safe havens for crooks starting from the presidential palace, parliments house, ghq and the lawyers offices.Recommend

  • M Dawood
    Nov 3, 2010 - 8:36AM

    this army is not there to fight or protect but to wait on plot allotments. Recommend

  • Muhammad Kamran Khan
    Nov 3, 2010 - 10:41AM

    It seems Pakistani nation should ready for Nato attacks like drones.Recommend

  • Aristo
    Nov 3, 2010 - 10:42AM

    The Pak army only protects its own (institutional) selfish interests, all the coups instigated by them have been to maintain the status quo, not in the love of the common man. They will only react once they feel threat to their interests and as history educates us, their interests have never been aligned with the interests of the general public of Pakistan, so sad! that it has been rather unfortunate for us.Recommend

  • Yusuf
    Nov 3, 2010 - 11:09AM

    The day isn’t far when Nato choppers would take off from an airbase in Pakistan to strike ‘militant’ targets in Isloo or Karachi.Recommend

  • Nov 3, 2010 - 12:33PM

    The Americans are violating our airspace to hit innocent Pakistanis in mountainous regions like as if they are dumping garbage in their backyard.

    This sovereign violation continues unabated and our leaders are not in the least bit concerned about it. The so-called war on terror has continued for nine years and Pakistan is being dealt the rough end of the stick.

    Were we born losers??? NO definitely not. We only lack the will to do something about it. Plenty of sticks and very few carrots.

    With salams and best wishes.Recommend

  • Naveed Ali
    Nov 3, 2010 - 2:19PM

    plz pak army save us from this devils.Recommend

  • Copper
    Nov 3, 2010 - 2:59PM

    plz pak army save us from this devils

    highlights the lack of common sense prevailing our society. They are busy in looting the country and pretending to be saviours, wake up man!!Recommend

  • sehrish
    Nov 3, 2010 - 6:29PM

    Allah Pak please save the Muslims and Pakistan & trap the enemies in their own plan. (Amin sumain) Recommend

  • Ahmer Ali
    Nov 4, 2010 - 2:31PM

    Assalam-o-Allaikum Warahmatullah.Please keep it in your mind firmly our corrupt leaders that the beggars and the dependents are treated always in this way and all their complaints are thrown in the dust bin not included in the most important strategic meetings.Why our beggars leaders don’t understand or even don’t want to try to understand or intentionally are not trying to understand?Recommend

  • Ameer
    Nov 6, 2010 - 10:25AM

    To Aktar

    Wow, you are so proud about 1971 huh?

    India talk so much about Pakistan supporting terrorism, but what about you guys supporting Mukti Bhani, and using that to your advantage, and feeling proud of it.

    You forgot that even though Pakistan lost the war, it won the air war despite being in the disadvantage!

    You also forgot that India had the geographical advantage.

    Worst part is, you guys felt proud to intefere in Pakistan’s civil war, and claimed it as a victory.Recommend

  • Aasia Sohail Mian
    Nov 6, 2010 - 2:16PM

    This act by the intruders will not stop unless we take a firm stand and become a sovereign nation. We have to depend on our resources and to find solutions for the existing problems but it seem impossible by this regime. sorry to say. Recommend

  • krs1
    Dec 11, 2010 - 6:24PM

    Actually the “professional” pakistani soldiers are on the offensive. There are at least 3 IED attacks on regular Pakistani Army units every day. Recommend

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