India 'concerned' over China running Gwadar port

By AFP
Published: February 6, 2013

Pakistan approved a deal transferring management of Gwadar port on the Arabian Sea from a Singapore company to China. PHOTO: FILE

BANGALORE: India’s defence minister said Wednesday that New Delhi was concerned by Pakistan’s decision last month to transfer management of a strategically located deep-sea port to China.

“In one sentence, it is a matter of concern for us,” AK Antony told reporters in Bangalore where he inaugurated the Indian air show. “My answer is very straightforward and simple.”

On January 30, Pakistan approved a deal transferring management of Gwadar port on the Arabian Sea from a Singapore company to China, which provided most of the funding to build the facility in the province of Balochistan.

China has been extending its influence with traditional allies of New Delhi around the Indian Ocean as well as in Pakistan.

Beijing also funded a port in Sri Lanka and has been approached to help build a similar facility in Bangladesh.

A high-level Chinese delegation from Beijing is attending the Aero India show for the first time in a sign of improving relations between Asia’s two biggest countries, which renewed their military cooperation last September.

Reader Comments (133)

  • Shah
    Feb 6, 2013 - 3:21PM

    wht a statement….let me laugh…….just a word to India…you are not even near of becoming a super power….so stop acting like one….

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  • Ghaznavi
    Feb 6, 2013 - 3:21PM

    India WHINING, yet again!!

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  • Django
    Feb 6, 2013 - 3:31PM

    No India, no you’re not America; you can never become a super power

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  • Waqas Butt
    Feb 6, 2013 - 3:37PM

    Gawader must be built and should be made fully operational for both business and defence purposes. India would never be sincere with Pakistan either on dialogue on Long awaited and disputed issue of Kashmir or so called measures of confidence building. History provides a clear insight.

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  • ab
    Feb 6, 2013 - 3:39PM

    they have bad relations with pakistan, china , nepal, sri lanka. wow what a neighbour.Recommend

  • Talha
    Feb 6, 2013 - 3:46PM

    Mind your Business India!!!

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  • Pakistani
    Feb 6, 2013 - 3:47PM

    What a joke. What on Earth has India got to do with Gwadar? We are concerned about the presence of 800,000 Indian troops forcibly occupying Kashmir. They should vacate it and hold a plebicite in accordance with UN Security Council resolutions to determine the will of the people of Kashmir.

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  • Ali
    Feb 6, 2013 - 3:48PM

    Oppa China Style!

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  • Shamsuddin
    Feb 6, 2013 - 3:53PM

    Nobody knows or may be those who know just do not speak about the details of duration and scope of this port management. It is all so secret. It seems to be a double bottom (or may be multibottom) deal . Everybody in Pakistan is afraid of asking about the details because deep state is very very deeply involved in this dangerous game of trying to ride many tigers simutaneously.

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  • Usman Lakhani
    Feb 6, 2013 - 3:54PM

    LOL! India should just change its name to Bollywood! Suits its attitude!

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  • Advice
    Feb 6, 2013 - 3:58PM

    hahha… @AK Antony you should be concerned with the rape cases in your country First.. “India Cocerned over China running Gawadar Port” feels like someone is jelous :D funny statement.

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  • SM_India
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:00PM

    This incident glorifies Pakistan’s slavery to China.

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  • Feb 6, 2013 - 4:01PM

    India is fearing due to increasing influence of China.

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  • Parvez
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:05PM

    ….A.K. Anthony said something for the sake of saying something.

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  • neutrino
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:10PM

    What on earth is wrong with india??? are they trying to become a pseudo super power or what?? they have over 300million beggers who sleep on roads.. (more the the population of USA) look yourself in the mirror first “india”.

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  • Candid 1
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:11PM

    Hey India, mind your own business. This once again shows Indian animosity against Pakistan: Pakistan is developing its infrastructure which in no way threatens India, but India is still “concerned,” while India inauguraes an airshow to attract arms manufacturers from around the world to buy weapons to attack Pakistan. By Indian standards, Pakistan should treat the airshow as a declaration of war, and act accordingly.

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  • Yuri Kondratyuk
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:16PM

    AK Antony simply stated a fact in front of Indian audience in India. And what he said has been acknowledged previously too and there is nothing new to it.
    What I don’t understand is the gleeful song and dance routines executed by Pakistanis here at a mere hint of Indian discomfort. Well if it makes you guys any happier, I woke up with a little cold and mild fever this morning!

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  • Kaleem
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:16PM

    They say, Gheron ki shadi men Abdullah Deewana

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  • MS
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:20PM

    Laughable, at most!

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  • Concerned
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:21PM

    @SM_India:

    Your pain is very much understandable

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  • vasan
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:22PM

    I could never think that pakistanis will be so proud of their meek surrender to china in the name of friendship. Handing over a port inside pakistan to be managed by a foreign govt is a serious affair. That speaks about pakistan. Wonder why pakistan itself cannot manage the port.

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  • Nathoram Godse
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:28PM

    Pakistanis are ‘concerned’ over the treatment of women in India. India can not even protect their own women from being gang-raped by their own people in their own capital city, how can they protect the country from China???

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  • Concerned
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:31PM

    @vasan:

    We can manage the port the only reason to hand it over to China was to tease India.

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  • pani ka horse
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:33PM

    happy belated kashmir day

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  • roadkashehzada
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:37PM

    okay…. so india has all rights to establish 13 so called cultural centres in afghanistan along pakistani border and pakistan needs approval from indian defence minister before its decision of a port.

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  • Indian Wisdom
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:37PM

    @Candid 1:
    “Hey India, mind your own business. This once again shows Indian animosity against Pakistan: Pakistan is developing its infrastructure which in no way threatens India, but India is still “concerned,””

    Why not… and same goes for objections of Pakistan over India developing infrastructure in Afghanistan!!!!!

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  • Feb 6, 2013 - 4:38PM

    Its encouraging that Pakistan Govt has taken this decision in face of open as well as hidden opposition from many corners of World. A fully functioning Gawadar Port is not only vital for our strategic interests, Pak – China friendship, economic activity, but also to bring ppl of Balochistan is national stream. We are already late on Gawadar. I would love to see this partnership with China to further grow into military (Naval) cooperation to dominate sea routes over Strait of Harmuz and Indian Ocean. So, as far as Indian discomfort is concerned, we must put them in difficult situation, keeping in view their growing “Water Regulating Capability” in Himalayan water shed

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  • Feb 6, 2013 - 4:41PM

    @vasan:
    we don’t have funds and other resources. and moreover, we want to build it in a Naval cooperation that will counter check Indian designs in Indian Ocean……… n that we WILL do dear friend

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  • Nazim
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:41PM

    Mr. Vasan, it is not the question of surrender. It is handling of port facilities professionally and we think chinese expertise suits us very well. So, please don’t both as you have your own mammoth problems to resolve.

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  • Sheikh Ali Tariq
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:44PM

    AK sb should worry about the war crimes in Kashmir. Handling of a mere port won’t result in war crimes I hope.

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  • A2Z
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:44PM

    India, this is none of your business.
    @SM_India when Singapore authority was running the affairs of Gawadar port that was fine but now if China would manage it then it is an act of slavery lols. You indians provide good entertainment

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  • Amer
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:49PM

    @Yuri Kondratyuk: Pakistanis are very concerned about the growing influence of rapists in India specially the Indian capital city of New Dehli. There are human rights violations of women every second in India and there is a girl being raped everything 5 seconds in Dehli.

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  • Pakistani
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:50PM

    Gwadar port can change the fate of the country….gulf countries are also a big hurdle in making it operational..

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  • Rajesh
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:52PM

    They allow the Arabs to hunt their wildlife;
    they allow the Americans to use their airbases;
    they also allow the Americans to fire drones on their citizens;
    they allow the Chinese to exploit their ports

    AND they have the nerve to tell India to watch out!
    Seriously guys – what chutzpah!

    I think India should be getting in line along with the other countries to get a chance at exploiting your resources.

    We have already made a beginning with Pakistani talent in Bollywood.
    Can you let us have a go at your minerals? Please. Pretty please.

    R.

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  • roadkashehzada
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:54PM

    @Yuri Kondratyuk:
    get well soon.
    if u say ur fever is start of a dangerous disease spread by LeT with the help of ISI and pakistan must hand over Hafiz saeed then definitely we will laugh.
    discomfort is one thing but acting like this is something else

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  • BlackJack
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:58PM

    We really shouldn’t be making these statements as our opinion doesn’t really count – we couldn’t even get Maldives to change its mind on GMR; Pakistan has legitimate reasons to develop Gwadar port and hardly any money – so what do we expect them to do? Of course, the glee with which this little announcement has been greeted is really odd – it is like laughing your head off at people’s expressions when they see that you have stepped on something les-than-desirable.

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  • Tune In
    Feb 6, 2013 - 4:59PM

    I wonder what the beggars got in return for Gwadar port.

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  • Free Advise
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:05PM

    You surrenderred Gwadar to china and India is ‘concerned’. You are dancing madly that finally you made India ‘concerned’. So, here is a free advice- surrender your entire country to China. This will make India ‘very deeply concerned’. In turn, entire pakistan will very deeply jump into arabian ocean out of uncontrolleable very deepljoy. Who know, there you may rejoun with your Mehamaan-o-Akbar-bin-Mush-la-adin as well. Khushamdeed.

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  • abhi
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:17PM

    pakistani want azadi for kashmir, but they themself surrender their land to China what kind of azadi is this?

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  • Sidrah
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:24PM

    I’m a Pakistani but I’d want to know the long term implications of giving away your ports and other important sites to foreigners even if they are china. For example do the Chinese employ local Baloch at the site? How much of their revenue is spent in Pakistan and how much goes back to china etc. I remember reading a couple of news items where some countries like australia, Indonesia and Malaysia are making laws to stop foreigners from buying too much land in their countries because this can prove to be harmful in the long run.

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  • Dr. Asad Sadick, Germany
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:28PM

    Indias concern should be seen in its revisionist policies. Pakistan should not pay any attention to it. Interference in our internal affairs is in bad taste.

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  • Sky(Indian)
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:31PM

    You think China is Pakistan’s friend and want China’s presence in Pakistan well and good.I am from India and I fell Indian government is necessarily fearing the presence of Chinese and China in Pakistan.But one thing is sure If Pakistan becomes closer to China, India will move closer to Iran,Afghanistan,Russia and America and I think such mistakes should not be done by Pakistan.If its just for developing the port then its well and good but more then that India will not keep quiet and then India my interfere in Baluchistan where the port is being constructed.If Baluchistan needs to be peaceful(Insha Allah) then don’t entertain China(which India fears that too in Baluchistan on the sea shore) inside Pakistan.its the need of Pakistan government to put to rest all the genuine fears of Indians and India for Aman ki Asha to prevails between India and Pakistan and China.

    If we want India,China and Pakistan to be friendly nations and peace and prosperity to be present in south Asia then the fears of India should be resolved immediately by the Pakistan and Chinese governments.I love India,Pakistan and China we are all brothers no fears and conspiracy theories should exist between us for permanent friendship.

    The Issue which creates fear and concern and tension between the three countries especially for the Indians should be resolved immediately. Port development given to china is against the strategic Interest of Indians and India and we Indians and India see a more greater plan in this against India.

    I think Pakistan government is mature enough and deescalate the fears from the minds of Indians and we Indians,Chinese and Pakistanis can start love each other more.I have full faith on President of Pakistan Sir Asif Ali Zardari saab his party PPP(Secular Democratic party of Pakistan) and foreign minister Hena Rabbani Kar ji to solve the concerns of Indians and bring cheer in the face of Indian “Aman ki Asha”. Long live friendship of India,China and Pakistan live forever we can make the world a safer place. I suppose my response is candid Jiyo India,Jiyo Pakistan,Jiyo China :)

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  • Truth detector
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:32PM

    None of India’s business, so back off & keep shut.

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  • Jackson
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:33PM

    @ab, Pakistan relationship with entire world is really exemplary. Most of the world helds pakistan in high esteem, its citizen are treated with high respect around the world, and airports have special no-frisking policy for pakistani citizens. Green passport is the most sought after passport in the world and people die for it. Pakistan’s enemy neighbours are: India, Iran, Afghanistan with three countries it directly shares its borders.

    China has friendly relations with N.Korea and Pakistan. Two most progressive nations of the world. China’s enemy neighbours are Japan, Bhutan, Malaysia, Philippines, Vietnam, so that also makes China a great neighbour.

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  • King(Indian)
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:35PM

    Pakistan give the Port to us(Indians) we will develop the port to you free of cost. :)

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  • Maqbool
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:38PM

    India is worried as one by one it’s neighbours are becoming pseudo colonies of China. While one could still give benefit of doubt to Sri Lanka and Nepal being small and hence not able to take up big infra projects, what baffles is countries like Pakistan are succumbing to it. East India company ruled the Indian subcontinent, they started as businessmen doing lot of trade and infra work but soon started asserting their authority over our resources. Anyone with an idea of history would be afraid of what’s coming next.

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  • Watan(Indian)
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:39PM

    Pakistani brothers please understand the India’s concerns, India thinks that Pakistan and China both can join and attack India so please resolve the fears of Indians and India. Aman ki Asha :)

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  • Peak(Indian)
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:44PM

    You Pakistanis make the port as beautiful as you like you want it to be but please understand the Indian fears and concerns.

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  • verizon-user
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:46PM

    Indians losing it ..seriously..if Pakistan is surrendering to China with this port..please do let us know how India does China has to be India’s biggest trade partner and the on the other hand India is China’s 10th largest trade partner.India has almost half of its trade with China the minute China holds back you guys are gone…

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  • Z Ali
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:48PM

    @Yuri Kondratyuk:
    You obviously don’t read Indian comments often enough. Their interminable preaching and unmitigated glee at any loss suffered by Pakistan makes it necessary for us to laugh at them when we can.

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  • Seek(Indian)
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:55PM

    @Pak Circles:
    So address our concerns and solve the issue.

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  • Ajaz Haque
    Feb 6, 2013 - 5:58PM

    And how is this any of India’s business or for that matter, any other country’s business?
    It is a Pakistani port and Pakistan can choose anyone to run it.

    Doesn’t India have hundreds of Russian military consultants helping them build one of the world’s biggest arsenals, while over 600 million Indians cannot afford two meals a day?

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  • antip
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:02PM

    pakistan is used to compromising its soverinity

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  • Mountain(Indian)
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:08PM

    Its unfortunate that Pakistan(Aman ki Asha) didn’t attend Aero India 2013 show next time hopefully it attends like the Pakistani players in IPL.

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  • Shah
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:22PM

    @Yuri Kondratyuk:

    no the point is …India should mind their buisness…who are you?????? GLOBAL POLICE….????? Trying to act superior or wht……

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  • Patriot
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:22PM

    It is our land, whatever we want to do with it !

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  • Shah
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:24PM

    @vasan:

    and no foreign company is handling buisness in India…are you KIDDING ME…??????????

    you did wht your minsiter did…said some thing for the sake of opening your mouth

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  • Feb 6, 2013 - 6:25PM

    @vasan:
    By your definition taking control of Farkhor Airbase in Tajikistan is enslavement of that country? This also means that Tajiks have very right of revolting against this development. And by 1971 Indian standard, Pakistan would have every right to help Tajiks helping in the revolt?

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  • Feb 6, 2013 - 6:26PM

    hey all pakistani haters dont be so proud of gwader it can be destroyed easily by Indian navy within minitues it gets orders from south block should pakistan or china uses it militarily against India,second India as a state will definitely feel concerned its natural just like china is concerned about India’s growing engagement in south china sea but unlike pakistan china is no fool to use gwader militarily against India cuz it knows well in such case if ever happens then pakistan anyhow will loose gwader but along with it china will loose its naval warship docked or that uses gwader.By the way when India says We are Concerned then that does not mean it doesn’t have cards in is hand and hina is fully aware about it so all pakistanis dont get so excited when your gwader itself is defenceless you talk about yourself dont try to become mouth of china,let china say it will use gwader militarily which is unlikely.Recommend

  • Yuri Kondratyuk
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:36PM

    @Shah:

    no the point is …India should mind
    their buisness…who are you??????
    GLOBAL POLICE….????? Trying to act
    superior or wht……

    Strategic security of India and global factors that can affect it are indeed India’s business. More rationally so than Gaza strip being Pakistan’s business.

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  • Saad Babrak
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:40PM

    I will put my money on the ports of Chahbahar and Turkmenbashi to counter Gwadar and make it insignificant no matter who is at the helm of Gwadar.

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  • Analyzer
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:42PM

    As a wise man said, “People of small caliber are always carping. They are bent on showing their own superiority, their knowledge or prowess.” India perfectly displays this tendency.

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  • VJ
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:43PM

    I love the freedom Indian trolls have on these pages. Can anyone say the same about the disgusting comments posted on TOI?

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  • Muhammad Usama Aziz
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:49PM

    where are indian trolls :D BlackJAck, Mj, Tony Singh, kindly comment here

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  • Mika
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:50PM

    They should be more worried about rapists and female infanticide.

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  • trimdon
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:51PM

    India is worst neighbour: problems with all ( china, nepal, sriLanka, banglaDesh, pakistan)

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  • Mika
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:51PM

    @SM_India:
    Myanmar, Sri Lanka also hase bases. Looks like noose is tightening hence these desperate words.

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  • Shah
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:54PM

    @Vectra:

    ahahahah…Indian NAVY…where is your Navy now…

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  • Shah
    Feb 6, 2013 - 6:56PM

    @Yuri Kondratyuk:

    and do wht ever you can…in simple words…..dont waste your and the worlds time….

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  • Singh
    Feb 6, 2013 - 7:05PM

    @Nazim:
    It is handling of port facilities professionally.
    So in other word, you guys are not professional.

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  • Raj - USA
    Feb 6, 2013 - 7:19PM

    I have commented earlier also that I am for China taking over Gwadar port. My view is that the more Chinese control over Pakistan, the better it is for India. No one can control the islamic influence and terror as effectively as China. They could control Xinjiang, even stop Ramzan fasting there. Look at the way they handled the Rohingya issue. Which other country so effectively and ruthlessly do so? China’s control of Pakistan will make it peaceful and both India and China can benefit. Afghanistan will also become peaceful. In fact the entire middle-east will also have a much sobering effect. All this will have a positive effect on the muslim community in India also. For me wiping out Islamic fanatics and terrorism matters more than anything.

    Yes, India should express more concern and this will encourage Pakistan to hand over more of its territory to China. India does not have a problem of infiltration of terrorists from the portion of Kashmir region that Pakistan had gifted to China. India does not need additional territory. All it needs is to bring in more development in India. When China controls the territory, they are not going to allow flag burning or slogan chanting crowds. Yes, Pakistan may see more of pork being consumed but certainly shall see less of pork-bellied leaders of terrorist parties on its streets.

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  • Max
    Feb 6, 2013 - 7:26PM

    @Singh: China manages 7 of the 10 largest ports in the world. Who do u think can be more professional than them to run a port?

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  • roger
    Feb 6, 2013 - 7:32PM

    @Shah: super power or not….no one cares!!!!!!! but we are a regional power and will not tolerate instabilty in the region ……get that??

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  • Hold your horses
    Feb 6, 2013 - 7:41PM

    @Shah:

    You can laugh, only the world laughs at you…

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  • Hold your horses
    Feb 6, 2013 - 7:42PM

    @Kaleem:

    Just like you were “Abdullah deewana” in Afghanistan….

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  • sheikh
    Feb 6, 2013 - 7:45PM

    @Ajaz Haque: who told u 600 millions cant afford food??? kaunsi duniya mein ho bhai ??

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  • Singh
    Feb 6, 2013 - 7:50PM

    I don’t know on what base all these Pakistani friends are happy about. Half of your country land own by Arab. they build air strip for own personal use for hunting purpose & have right to lease it to other country for militarily uses. Now it is Chinese, come next may be Iran too on IP gas line. Do you guys understand that you are loosing Pakistan bit by bit. It should be matter of concern but instead you guys laughing.
    Reason: You guys got your country without fighting for it from British. How many Saheed Bhagat singh you have.
    People who demand Pakistan from British, none of them went to Jail even for one day. In fact when they see pie was baked they ask for their share without putting any effort toward it.
    People who earn something with blood & sweat knows value of it.
    Now it is high time to step back, take a deep breath & think which way your country going.
    Do you want to leave your country as a whole to next generation or you want to have momentarily happiness on discomfort of neighbor.
    May god bless you with wisdom.

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  • rajeev (Indian)
    Feb 6, 2013 - 8:08PM

    I think China has got a old map depicting Pakistan an ancient part of China, so before asking they are surrendering themselves to China. No sovereign country will do that.
    Now Pakistani people have one safe place at Gwadar port from attack of American Drones.

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  • A2Z
    Feb 6, 2013 - 8:20PM

    @Yuri Kondratyuk…Pakistan’s port, Pakistan’s own territory, India has strategic problem with this, but when Pakistan involves in Afghanistan that is not a strategic problem according to indians. Hypocrisy at its best

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  • SAL
    Feb 6, 2013 - 8:29PM

    @SM_India:
    What about indian slavery of US, Russia, Israel, etc????? First look around and then talk.

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  • SAL
    Feb 6, 2013 - 8:35PM

    @Yuri Kondratyuk:
    Take 2 Tylenol and go back to sleep. Don’t worry Pakistan will not destroy india till you get up.

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  • syed baqar ahsan
    Feb 6, 2013 - 8:58PM

    @Watan(Indian):
    aman ki asha was trap India has very intelligently put all issues of serious nature at back step like stealing water,siachen,sir creek and most important OUR CROPS ISSUE OF KASHMIR,daily muslim freedom fighter being killed by Indian army,police and BSF.

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  • Yuri Kondratyuk
    Feb 6, 2013 - 9:27PM

    @SAL:

    Don’t worry Pakistan will not destroy
    india till you get up.

    No problem. Last time Musharraf himself checked, the Ghauri missile (based on North Korean Rodong-1 and repainted by KRL) wasn’t even sure which direction it was going!
    I mean, one of the “successful” tests of Ghauri ended with some parts of the missile falling into Iran.

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  • Sterry
    Feb 6, 2013 - 9:32PM

    @Z Ali: We all know how Indians are obsessed with Pakistan. Most comments on any Pak neewspaper is usually an Indian and they like to use phoney names too. As for Gwader Port, It’s great taht China is going to help make it operational. Who cares what India thinks- let them watch Bollywood movies for all I care.

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  • aj
    Feb 6, 2013 - 9:37PM

    i don’t understand why india is concerned???

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  • laugh
    Feb 6, 2013 - 9:41PM

    @vasan:
    Didn’t you read this? Bangladesh is doing the same!

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  • Genesis
    Feb 6, 2013 - 9:44PM

    The wealth in this region which should have rightfully been used to develop Baluchistan, .is sadly not reaching them, and is going into the hands of the Chinese leading to more volatility. Chinese presence in Baluchistan can only encourage Pakistan to follow policies similar to the Han presence in Xingjian and Tibet.Chinese are not there in Baluchistan our of philanthropy.they are hard nosed business people looking our for the interest of their country and rightfully so. It is not a surprise that Baluchistan is progressively turning into a festering wound for Pakistan where the locals have no stakes in either its administration or benefits from its vast resources.

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  • Enlightened
    Feb 6, 2013 - 10:20PM

    @aj:
    India is genuinely concerned about the well being of Pakistan whose sovereignty and integrity is being compromised by handing over its territory to China in phases. I am sure you would not like your country to be one of a Chinese province named Pakisliang.

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  • Rex Minor
    Feb 6, 2013 - 10:37PM

    Indian military leader did not mean what he sai; he was just thinking loudly.

    Rex Minor

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  • John B
    Feb 6, 2013 - 10:56PM

    I told you so, when the news first appeared

    Not going to happen, at least with navel rights. China can be an investment partner but not an operational owner.

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  • Pops
    Feb 6, 2013 - 11:34PM

    @Shah: Indian navy is above an below water. Nuclear powered sub is below and aircraft carrier is above. They can take care of India. Indian army, navy always deliver when the time comes.

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  • Hi Hi hey hey
    Feb 6, 2013 - 11:59PM

    Indians and their attempts of acting like a superpower!! LOL
    guys you better buy pampers for yourselves.Recommend

  • YSK
    Feb 7, 2013 - 12:01AM

    @King(Indian):
    Have you developed all your ports and infrastructure :) you start acting like superpower :)))

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  • Subhash
    Feb 7, 2013 - 12:04AM

    @Advice:
    Funniest part – you need a foreign country to even manage a port.

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  • G. Din
    Feb 7, 2013 - 12:05AM

    China is the one that asked Pakistan to come up with 20 million dollars before it resumes work on a dam, already in construction. They made good on their promise.
    Chinese and French technicians have been murdered for coming to Pakistan to help Pakistan. Those who think China will employ Pakistanis at Gwadar have a lot of growing up to do. China uses only Chinese in all the projects it undertakes down to the menial labour. It is notorious for doing so in Africa. Before long, Buloch will be using Chinese for target practice because Chinese would be seen as joining Pakistanis in their (Buloch) exploitation. So, just wait a while. Don’t bring out the champagne just yet!

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  • YSK
    Feb 7, 2013 - 12:06AM

    @Watan(Indian):
    It is not possible. We want peace more than anybody else in south asia but india need to understand that we have to resolve all conflicts issues including Kashmir.

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  • Vampire
    Feb 7, 2013 - 12:20AM

    India should worry about their terror camps in afghanistan in the name of embassies and cultural centres bcoz 2014 is near and soon they’ll vaporize :) stay tuned….

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  • Vlad Singh
    Feb 7, 2013 - 12:35AM

    Well, I will say its Pakistan’s internal matter to hand over their ports, airports or whatever to anyone . Indians should concentrate on building more air force bases like they have Farkhor air base in Tajikistan and other countries around China . In past Pakistan has been host to American bases , it doesn’t make them more secure and prosperous than they are now. Only strong countries make bases in other countries.

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  • Romm
    Feb 7, 2013 - 12:40AM

    When Kingdom of Amman handed over Gwadar to Pakistan, Indians sacked their high commissioner in Pakistan. Whom would they sack at this venture. Commerce minister, Defence or foreign minister? Hard to make decision. …….. Hoon Aram eeeeee….

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  • Feb 7, 2013 - 12:46AM

    Whats is the bid deal ? concern ?
    The upside is great Chinese food and well priced Chinese products….and hopefully someone will finally build a decent road to Karachi if they do take over…

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  • Behari Kebab
    Feb 7, 2013 - 12:57AM

    If managing port operations is enslaving yourself, then India must be the slave of the world with all the foreign companies doing business there, including Pakistan because I know a few people of Pakistani origin who are managing operations of multi-nationals in India. Anyway, India has historically been a slave of USSR/Russia, and is now trying to become a slave of the West.

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  • Raj - USA
    Feb 7, 2013 - 1:47AM

    @Behari Kebab: You say:
    “I know a few people of Pakistani origin who are managing operations of multi-nationals in India.”

    Can you provide names of these people of Pakistani origin, their designation and also the names of these multi-national organizations so that we can check these from the web sites of these multinational companies?
    I hope you are not going to mention organizations like SIMI, LeT, Hurriyat, etc.

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  • Behari Kebab
    Feb 7, 2013 - 1:57AM

    @Indian Wisdom: That’s an oxymoron, if ever there was one! In any case, Pakistani objections are not over Afghan infrastructure development, rather they are over Indian terrorist operations that use these infrastructure projects as a front.

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  • Raj - USA
    Feb 7, 2013 - 2:37AM

    @G. Din:
    As you say, China uses Chinese labor only in all the projects they undertake and have been doing so in Africa. However, I give credit to the Chinese also. In the late 60′s Zambia wanted to build a road from its capital Lusaka to its western province Mongu. Most of the road had to be built over sandy desert area. No other country wanted to build the road as it is very difficult to build a road over sand. Chinese undertook the project. They brought in rocks to cover the sand and built a road on it.
    On another point, the then President of Zambia while inaugurating the road praised the Chinese. He said that he admires the Chinese for two things. One is the building a wonderful road that all others said was impossible or very difficult build. Another thing he said was that even though there were many thousands Chinese employees, all men and no woman, who came to Zambia to construct the road and remained in Zambia for over 10 years, you still cannot find any Afro-Chinese mixed race child but can find many other mixed race children like Afro-White, Afro-Asian, etc.

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  • Observer
    Feb 7, 2013 - 4:08AM

    We have to wait and see what this report on Chinese running Gwadar is all about. This news in only published on Pakistani sites and not China’s. In the past, many such reports linking foreign countries to issues in Pakistan have proved to be Establishment propaganda. The Pak establishment is known to sees such “information” to extract more dollars out of America and to get more concessions on Afghanistan.

    The Chinese are very shrewd businessmen. They never invest their money and efforts anywhere unless the payback is ten fold on economic and political areas. The Gawdar project has been a money losing black-hole and it is not about to change anytime soon. If China wants access to sea route, it would make more sense for them to do that through Bangladeshi (and eastern Indian ports) and ship oil and gas to southern China from these ports using a new pipeline through Bangladesh and India. On the western side, China can also use Iran’s Chabahar port to connect Xinjiang through Afghanistan.

    Then there is the fact that the Chinese will face serious threats from the Baloch freedom fighters. The Chinese had to pull out of Balochistan in the past due to attacks.

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  • vasan
    Feb 7, 2013 - 9:25AM

    laugh : I did. I also saw Bangladesh is also prosecuting 1971 war criminals. Will Pak do the same to its personnel involved in 1971 massacre ???

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  • Max
    Feb 7, 2013 - 9:39AM

    @Observer: “Then there is the fact that the Chinese will face serious threats from the Baloch freedom fighters.”
    You mean indian-funded terrorists? Don’t worry they will be taken care of, with such a project the proper clean-up will be done to thwart indian plans in the region.

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  • Clear Black Bag
    Feb 7, 2013 - 11:20AM

    China is Pakistan’s proven and testified time testing and all season friend and if China is having control of Gwadar port then what’s going wrong with India?Whereas Indian leadership always has been claiming that India never interferes in any country’s personal matters and if this is not interference then what is called interference and why India is showing concerns and reservation on it?Mind your own business Indians and you don’t have any authority to say any thing about/for/on any confidential/internal Pakistani matters because as you strongly dislike interference of Pakistan in your matters we also have the same attitude like you regarding interference in the personal matters……

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  • Milind
    Feb 7, 2013 - 11:23AM

    I guess Amrika should be more concerned than us Indians, since the Chinese are a direct threat to their hegemony in Pakistan…

    Counter-intuitively Chinese presence should dampen the bravado of the Pakistani army & non-state actors, especially their foolhardy ventures against us… Recall how the Chinese stayed neutral and poured cold-water during the Kargil fiasco leaving the Pakistani army isolated (when they needed Chinese help the most) and nullifying their gains.

    The Chinese are shrewd enough and know when to use their vassal state… The Pakistani move here unfortunately appears to stem from their myopic India-centric position, rather than long-term gains as such…

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  • Anita Mallik
    Feb 7, 2013 - 1:38PM

    with ever increasing presence of China in Pakistan, its Pakistanis who should be more concerned. on one hand you talk of sovereignty and on the other hand you are willing to part with your national resource to your so called fair weather friend. China is a grand nation with its own resource and wealth hunger to cater to. I wonder what fine print price Pakistan is willing to pay or probably already paid by engaging China to manage its own resource.
    All I know about the international politics is that future appears to be bright for any nation with economic resource. this world doesn’t function missiles but on the power of green.

    Peace out

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  • Feb 7, 2013 - 2:26PM

    @shah “ahahahah…Indian NAVY…where is your Navy now…”

    Now is not the time for IN to interfere but it will do so whenever required and that depends on your govt about how it uses its port.

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  • Gujesh
    Feb 7, 2013 - 2:30PM

    Why Gwader Port ? Let the whole of country be managed by China. They will solve all your problems. We will have peaceful Pakistan and peaceful world.

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  • syed
    Feb 7, 2013 - 3:02PM

    Indian Concern! Who Cares

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  • Dr. Dang
    Feb 7, 2013 - 4:31PM

    @Shah:
    Did u read the article it read. “AK Antony told reporters in Bangalore where he inaugurated the Indian air show..
    Air show, by the way is not a Drone attack which is what most pakistanis are familiar with..We have the money to buy weapons not steal them.
    Forget about us acting like a superpower before becoming one, learn how to manage a port without kissing the chinese foot.

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  • Dr. Dang
    Feb 7, 2013 - 4:40PM

    @Z Ali:
    im an indian and i agree with you on this comment.
    best of luck

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  • rana
    Feb 7, 2013 - 5:49PM

    u a…ole we are far far ahead of you guys in all aspects………………Recommend

  • ashu
    Feb 7, 2013 - 7:04PM

    well paistan is on its way to commit yet another blunder by allowing a foreign power to use its soil for short term gains..previously the intruder was US and now China and the chinese are very much unlike the US.Once they are in you wont be able to get rid of them so easily.this is probably india’s primary concern and pakistan should take note of it for the sake of india,pakistan and thensouth asia

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  • Ali
    Feb 7, 2013 - 8:25PM

    Guys, if you see the map you will come to know that Gwader is the bottle neck of the sea traffic for the Gulf. so technically you can control every traffic from Gwader.

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  • Behari Kebab
    Feb 7, 2013 - 10:33PM

    @Raj – USA: Keep dreaming. Why don’t you provide your name and address first?

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  • Prabhjyot Singh Madan
    Feb 7, 2013 - 11:24PM

    It is a bad news for India but it is pakistans internal affairs.

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  • Zubair Katay
    Feb 8, 2013 - 2:43AM

    Good job china very good job.

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  • polpot
    Feb 8, 2013 - 11:54AM

    @Candid 1: ” Pakistan should treat the airshow as a declaration of war, and act accordingly.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Your fervent appeal seems to be lost in bureaucracy….time is running out:)

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  • polpot
    Feb 8, 2013 - 11:56AM

    @Yuri Kondratyuk: ” I woke up with a little cold and mild fever this morning!”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Pls dont take the Pakistani cough syrup that has killed several thousand.

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  • polpot
    Feb 8, 2013 - 12:00PM

    @antip: ” pakistan is used to compromising its soverinity”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    what sovereignty? the one thats blown daily by the drones?

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  • polpot
    Feb 8, 2013 - 12:02PM

    Pakistan must follow thru
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    And allott its Railways, Domestic Airlines, Power Generation, Democracry etc etc to China. Soon the entire country would be sub contracted ….well done.

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  • Hina
    Feb 8, 2013 - 12:36PM

    @Sky(Indian):
    You have confidence in Sir Asif Ali Zardari. LOL. Looks like you’re living in lala land

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  • Hina
    Feb 8, 2013 - 12:54PM

    @Genesis:
    Same can be said for Indian.occupied Kashmir

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  • Naresh
    Feb 8, 2013 - 3:56PM

    .
    China will be bringing Myanmar’s Port of Kyaukpyu on stream in 2013-14. It is a purpose-built Port for handling ULCC Tankers in respect of Oil to China by Pipe Line transporting China’s imports of crude oil from the Middle East, Africa and South America and also a Pipe Line to carry Natural Gas from the Myanmar – mainly off shore – Gas Fields. This Port is near the Port of Sitwe (Old name Akyab).
    .
    Here is the Article : China and Burma Leaders Meet, Oil and Gas Projects Move Forward
    .
    URL : http://www.earthrights.org/blog/china-and-burma-leaders-meet-oil-and-gas-projects-move-forward
    .
    Cheers

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  • Observer
    Feb 9, 2013 - 2:09AM

    Moderators, you should please allow a response to the post by @Max who seems to falsify the truth. Isn’t allowing proper debates the purpose of this discussion forum?

    @Max:

    “You mean indian-funded terrorists? Don’t worry they will be taken care of, with such a project the proper clean-up will be done to thwart indian plans in the region.”

    I know Pakistan has been blaming the Indians for Balochistan problems, but to-date hasn’t produced even a thread of proof. Even if Indians do support the Baloch, that would be a justified “quid pro quo” for the terrorist proxy war that Pak establishment has been waging in India for the past four decades.

    If you mean committing murder and genocide of the Baloch freedom fighters when you refer to “proper clean-up”, it hasn’t worked that well in the past 65 years of gross brutalities by the Pak army. Today, Baloch alienation and resistance is as strong as ever. Just giving you a fact.

    Nevertheless, as far as the Chinese are concerned, it doesn’t matter to them if their workers in Gwadar are killed with or without the support of India. In either case, the dead are equally dead.

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  • Yuri Kondratyuk
    Feb 10, 2013 - 8:20PM

    @Amer:

    Pakistanis are very concerned about
    the growing influence of rapists in
    India

    Sir, tell that to Mukhtar Mai. Especially since it’s the victim who’s blamed in Pakistan and not the perpetrator.

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  • Shahzad Rashid
    Feb 23, 2013 - 10:40AM

    Why cant we just live by the concept that you live peacfully in your country and let me live peacfully in my country………..and I would advise the indians to start digesting few things, and who cares what u say

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  • Bharat Verma
    Feb 23, 2013 - 11:29AM

    Why this matter concerns India is a very legitimate question. Its not that Pakistan and China, the all weather friends, can do any harm to us. But Balochistan was illegally occupied by Pakistan in 1948, so as the present day Gilgit and Azad Kashmir. India stands by the Balochi people and this ‘selling’ of important port sector is a very serious matter.

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  • asif
    Feb 23, 2013 - 11:57AM

    By seeing your attitude don’t cry when india help Afghanistan. You are evil with China want to harm india but when india help poor Afghans you cry

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