How America can make a difference

Published: August 11, 2010

shehrbano.taseer@tribune.com.pk

In the aftermath of the 2005 Kashmir earthquake, US Chinook helicopters — dubbed “angels of mercy” by many Pakistanis — lifted in millions of dollars worth of aid to help victims. Subsequently, US approval ratings in Pakistan shot to an all-time high. After the devastating floods last week, America provided relief assistance again. For a relationship between the two nations to last, though, we require more. Pakistan needs continuous aid that targets its neediest. The mighty Indus showed no mercy as it swept away families, livelihoods and villages within hours in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, Punjab, and Sindh last week.

Pakistan’s already strained leadership is dealing with more carnage in the volatile Karachi, and an ongoing extremist insurgency. It is struggling to provide adequate relief. The international community, however, has been quick to step in. Netherlands, Greece, France and Canada — to name a few — have all given millions in aid to the much-needed humanitarian relief efforts in Pakistan. In spite of widespread unpopularity in Pakistan — a meagre eight per cent popularity according to a July 2010 Pew Research Centre report — the US has swiftly and effectively provided 35 million dollars and supplied helicopters, medical instruments, boats, pre-fabricated steel bridges and 200,000 ready-to-eat halal meals.

As for the $7.5 billion granted to Pakistan by the Kerry-Lugar bill, why not use some of those funds to rehabilitate the hundreds of thousands displaced from Muzaffargarh? Why not build a hospital in that district or invest in existing hospitals to improve the quality of the healthcare provided by the local district headquarters hospital. Even simpler, what about generators to keep electricity running in that hospital, so that it can keep its vaccines refrigerated and reach its polio eradication goals?

What about constructing a sewerage treatment plant in Haroonabad, where the sewerage system collapsed decades ago? Watch how instances of malaria and diarrhoea — the number one killer of children in Pakistan — subside. When an individual is given the chance to reach his/her potential, only then can they positively contribute to their state. A strong Pakistan, in turn, can be an immense asset to the world.

Pakistanis — even initial advocates of the Kerry-Lugar bill — are losing patience with our ally’s promise. The US must earn the respect of the common man and those living under and just above the poverty line — which is around two-thirds of our population. That is how the high trust deficit that currently marks our relationship will subside. Chances are the rickshaw driver coming from Sheikhupura will most likely be uninformed about US botch-ups in the Philippines or Latin America, or even its inconsistent foreign policy with Pakistan, and its hand in the creation of the Taliban in the 1980s. They will, however, feel the palpable difference that sewerage lines make in their lives and in their villages.

There is a fissure, a gulf, between what the US defines as poverty, and what Pakistan does. The poor in America have televisions and insurance, the poor in Pakistan walk miles for clean water and cannot afford shoes. The necessity of the continuation of democracy or the restoration of the judges is a distant reality for them, then, when they have seven hungry eyes blinking back at them every day, and a roof that collapses when it rains.

I say, start with the grassroots, and deal with our immediate needs. Don’t dawdle through layers of bureaucracy and working papers. Addressing our most pressing problems will allow America to be received with more positivity by Pakistanis and make a realistic “difference”.

But please. Let’s see that money first.

Published in The Express Tribune, August 12th, 2010.

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Reader Comments (32)

  • Amit Kumar
    Aug 12, 2010 - 12:42AM

    I do not intent to offense any Pakistani brother.. but since you guys cry for parity with India i would like to give an example here.

    In 1965 with war with Pakistan, USA, as always a close ally of Pakistan threaten to cut off food aid to India. India those days was a food deficient country and not even capable to feed its own people was dependent on America. Then Prime Minister of India Lal Bahadur Shastri appealed to his country that we will not eat one day in a week to solve dependence on America. Thus India including prime minister weant hungry to the bed for a day in a week but did not bow down to America.

    Compare this with the situation in your country. You hate America with your core, but still want them to solve all your problems. You guys talk all the time about the respect, but moving all around with the world with begging bowl in your hand and pistol on your head. Give me the money otherwise we will blow ourself.

    Please dare to write an appeal to your Army who take most of your country’s wealth so that they can bleed India with thousand cuts. So that they can take revenge for all the wars they lost. Where is the pride of a nuclear capable Pakistan. Pakistan has nothing, absolutely nothing which India wants and never started any war with Pakistan (if you refer to real history).

    God bless the displaced and helpless people of Pakistan.Recommend

  • cmsarwar
    Aug 12, 2010 - 3:31AM

    @Amit Kumar.Extreme poverty and resultant consequences are common to both India and Pakistan.Amit should be aware of the the plight of what is called “foot path population” of big cities like Delhi,Kolkota and Bombay.The multitudes of slum dwellers ,deprived of basic needs of subsistence and dignity ,are common to both the countries.India has the advantage of a functional democracy.Pakistan has been faced with inconsistent and turbulent political growth.India is almost a semi super power.But leadership in both the countries has shown no big initiatives in resolving the outstanding issues , live in peace and focus on the welfare of the common man.Defense spendings in India are also at the cost of common man.So,Amit has written like a typical narrow-minded Indian patriot.In fact,India has always provided Pakistan Army with adequate justification to prosper and grow.
    @Sheherbano. I think it is time now that Pakistan should formally request the U.S.A to accept it as the next acceding state.I really do not know whether U.S.A is still formally purchasing territories or accepting requests for accession.There is no harm in trying.To me it is the only possible way of securing a treatment plant for sewrage of Haroonabad.Recommend

  • cmsarwar
    Aug 12, 2010 - 3:35AM

    Editor.sir,Please let’s know something about Sheherbano Taseer.Anything to do with the Graet Salman Taseer,the one and only?
    cmsarwarRecommend

  • Anya
    Aug 12, 2010 - 5:03AM

    you keep saying the floods of last week as if the flooding is over. Recommend

  • Callen
    Aug 12, 2010 - 7:19AM

    Absolutely agree with Kumar Pakistan’s real growth and development has only began when we stopped getting aid from US. The main reason is that Pakistani politicians are reluctant to let go of the millions that are coming in to full fill there arrogant needs. Tell them to try standing on your head and raising you hands.Recommend

  • zahid ali
    Aug 12, 2010 - 9:41AM

    Well written. You have pointed out valid and important points regarding tackling flood crisis. Recommend

  • Aug 12, 2010 - 12:22PM

    Do you think that the corrupt govt of ANP with combination of center can utilize the money in right direction and most importantly for peoples sake, i don’t so, ANP even couldn’t repair the barrages in last two and half years, that show how flop the govt was and will be in future dealings.Recommend

  • Faariya Infar Mayshun
    Aug 12, 2010 - 2:30PM

    Spoken like a true aristocrat espousing arm-chair politics. Ms. Taseer, I would humbly suggest you get your facts right and not throw stones when living in a glass house. This level of writing gives my the goosebumps. I hope our nation is in more able hands. Since when does this paper advocate day-dreaming and not journalism? Recommend

  • Aug 12, 2010 - 2:59PM

    yasser:

    since everyone is corrupt in varying degrees…what is the solution?Recommend

  • Ali
    Aug 12, 2010 - 3:44PM

    Too bad our government is too corrupt for the aid to materialise. All the countries you mentioned have pledged the aid, most of which has not been realised because they donot trust the current government with it.

    It is only us Pakistanis who are willing to let these politicians make palaces with our tax money. The rest of the world is not that stupid or submissive.

    Another victory of the democratic government.
    Democracy is the best revenge.Recommend

  • Aug 12, 2010 - 6:12PM

    I totally agree with you on this point.We need to start at the grass root level and try tom make a difference.Any how we cannot negate other things too.All the things go in parallel and there is no hard and fast rule of nation buildingRecommend

  • Usama Zafar
    Aug 12, 2010 - 6:15PM

    Well I kinda agree with Mr.Amit!!Recommend

  • Amit Kumar
    Aug 12, 2010 - 7:38PM

    Mere Bhai..@cmsarwar
    The number of poor people in India is about twice the population of Pakistan. It is India’s problem and India has to deal with it. and thank god Indians are not blaming or begging shamefully to anyone for that.

    To put it bluntly, Author here is telling that, America give us the money otherwise we will make these poor people as terrorist and export them to kill you guys. She is not alone most of your intellectual are telling the same thing. Its not a surprise even though so many Pakistani citizen are killed in terrorism there is little sympathy from the world community.

    There are several other more ruthless military regime in this world,no one has become like Pakistan. So, i think Pakistan should get rid of
    its anti India policy. India has lost a war with China and has serious border dispute with it so it will continue to invest in its defense.Recommend

  • Anoop
    Aug 12, 2010 - 8:17PM

    I am disappointed that India has not given any money to Pakistan as aid. Atleast it could have sent tents,food,clothes,etc.

    The author is speaking as if its written in the US constitution that US should always help Pakistan or Pakistanis vote for the US govt.

    Natural disasters occur everywhere, its sad that this time its Pakistan. Pakistan should approach the UN not the US. Why on earth is China silent? It might have donated a few million but isn’t it the 2nd most powerful country in the world? Are you saying it cant give away,say 1 billion dollars to Pakistan, like India has given to Bangladesh?

    Regarding the postings of cmsarvar replying to Anil, I like to remind him that India is the second fastest growing country in the world and in 5 years is going to be THE fastest. I am aware of the mighty problems that India faces but India has not buried its head in the sand and we’ve been a working democracy inspite of all the multi-ethnicity.

    So, Sir, please do not compare India and Pakistan, we are not equals and are different countries with different goals.Recommend

  • Amit Kumar
    Aug 12, 2010 - 9:09PM

    Callen ..
    Western powers and USA are imperial in nature. They will not do anything without calculating profit/loss. Its bad that Indian govt
    its not helping Pakistan in this hour of crisis. I just donated $100/- to American red cross through my company. I deeply believe that
    we are part of the same Indus civilization and have same shared colonial past. Instead of finding common ground based on this whats happening is everyone to see.Recommend

  • cmsarwar
    Aug 13, 2010 - 4:11AM

    @Amit and Anoop.Let me clarify a few things .I was not comparing the size and might of India with Pakistan nor China with India.I was only talking about the misery of millions of people,all over the globe,faced with the poverty-related problems.Then I talked of the huge wastes on defense spending.I also tried to emphasize the importance of negotiated and peaceful mechanism of settlement of disputes between our poverty ridden nations.Amit says that the number of poor people in India is twice the entire population of Pakistan.It is matter of shame not of pride.True it is India’s problem but it is a problem which needs tackling sooner than later.To keep it unresolved and to focus ,first of all,on settling scores with China for India’s lost war does not make sense.Can you imagine the waste and horror of another war between India and China?I understand relations between these two great countries are improving and a dialogue to resolve the outstanding disputes will be fruitful.Similarly,India-the Big and Great,can exercise reason ,justice and magnanimity in dealing with pygmies like Pakistan and others who have been bestowed the great honour of being her neighours.That will do a great service not only to people of Pakistan but also India.As I said earlier Pakistan’s Army has perpetuated itself because India has allowed it to grow and prosper by not negotiating settlement of disputes on an equitable basis.
    Amit and Anoop have not noticed that I have shown my complete distaste for the main thesis of Sheharbano’s article.I request them to please read the concluding paragraph of my earlier comments.I find this article simply childish and very immature.I also hope that Amit’s precious $100.00 do not end up in buying some nuclear material for Pakistan army.Recommend

  • sadik
    Aug 13, 2010 - 8:00AM

    yes Ms. Shehrbano, the answer to all our problems is US aid and lets keep that coming for the government to have its officers take a share out of it. Why don’t you roam around lahore for a day and see how many college and university students are gathering donations and going out on their own to distribute stuff to the affected people? Why don’t people just give to the government to spend that on the affectees? Recommend

  • omar
    Aug 13, 2010 - 11:26AM

    @ Sheherbano D/O Salman Taseer , dear Madam n you need to mention these grass root level realities when Carmilla Conroy visit Governor House’s posh parties for private guests. I think all you need is to learn the ground realities of your in country at first place before you ask the ’1st world friends’ for aid.
    What about spending the 1 billion Rs budget for ‘ Benazir Monument’ in Islamabad , for welfare of health of poor Pakistanis, after all life is much then posing with HSY, Vinny and Frieha Altaf , wearing your latest Channel or LV bag on page titled as ‘Eye Spy’ !Recommend

  • Anoop
    Aug 13, 2010 - 5:21PM

    @cmsarvar,

    In an ideal world all that can be done. As long as India spends not more than 3% of its defence budget on defence I wont be concerned,unlike Pakistan which spends a lot more. Considering most of the Pakistan’s budget goes into paying interests for loans taken from IMF,world bank,US,China,EU,etc this is alarming.

    If Pakistan tries it can match India’s meager(% wise) defence budget then it’ll keep continuing to land in big trouble economically.

    The fact that Pakistani army has taken over the political space is not India’s problem. Even Bangladesh had a military govt not too long ago but now democracy is flourishing and its getting rid of the effects of the divisive 2-nation theory. It is smart enough handle its issues with India through its democratic setup.

    Only Pakistani citizens are to blame for all the Military takeovers and the selfish and power hungry attitude of its armed forces are the only reason why there is no democracy in Pakistan.

    I want free trade, economic growth and alleviation of poverty in both India and Pakistan. It’d help India if it weren’t bothered by the Terrorist threat from Pakistan which allow its leaders to concentrate on increasing India’s growth into double digits!

    Sorry to sound hawkish but none of Pakistan’s ills are India’s fault and the only worry for us is Pakistani Islamist fanatics.Recommend

  • Kashif Jahangiri
    Aug 13, 2010 - 6:13PM

    I am a Pakistani and like all of you I am pained to see the plight of our country and most of its people. However, I don’t think what Sheherbano is suggesting is a great idea.

    Trust can only be built, it cannot be bought; particularly by spending money on the one hand and doing something else on the other.

    I agree with what Amit Kumar has said. We should learn something from India and STOP begging around.

    Having said the above, it is a reality that if Pakistan stop taking these militants head on, then the entire world will be facing them. Let us also accept that it was not just Pakistan who nurtured them. The US, the GCC States and certain other countries also promoted these terrorists in the past. However, it is now only Pakistan that is suffering collossal economic losses as a result of the ongoing war on terror. Our inward investment has just dried up and tourism – huh? is there a word “tourism” in the modern dictionaries!. It is only fair if the other parties to the earlier arrangement take up their share of economic losses being suffered by Pakistan. I wonder why our Government is so shy in making a forceful demand in this regard. Is it because we are used to begging so much that we have even forgotten to claim what is our right!Recommend

  • Zubair
    Aug 13, 2010 - 6:44PM

    @Anoop: There is no point in comparing the military budgets of the two countries. pakistan is in a total different scenarion compare to India. We are paying the toll for being the US ally for the so called WAR against terrorism. There were no suicide blasts in Pakistan three years ago, from where all these terrorists have come now?
    Please dont be so biased by saying “terrorist threats from pakistan”….Its a two way process, pakistan has long been involved in Afghanistan, if u talk about the Bombay attacks…Pakistan is suffering lot more than the bombay attacks and it has been proven that there had been interventions from India in destabilising Pakistan specially in Baloch movement. One thing world need to realise that Pakistanis are normal ppl like ppl in any other part of the world….We are not terrorist and nor we support terrorist rather we have been most targeted by terrorism.
    Dont link agencies war with what people think…..How on earth Pakistani ppl can support terrorism while they been hit by terrorism on daily basis.
    Pakistan is a very small country compare to India and it is a sad fact that two countries always had tense realtionship and to be able to defend pakistan from any threats we had to allocate huge budgets for army and i am sure its not even close to budets allocatedfor Indian forces.Dont go into percentege allocation as i mentioned we are a small country and to be able to defend ourselves against powers like india, Paksitan has no choice other than spending money on defence. Recommend

  • cmsarwar
    Aug 13, 2010 - 9:14PM

    @anoop.There is nothing new in what you have said.It is the official policy statement from Indian Foreign Office.Please start thinking like an enlightened,well-read and sensitive human being,more focused on day-to-day issues of common man rather than the abstract,mythical concept of greater glory of India.(This exactly is the disease Pakistan is suffering from.Instead of attending to the immediate misery of the common man the nation is lost in the dream of an ultimate,abstract glory of Islam and Pakistan as its only fortress.)I have walked the sidewalks of Indian cities and have seen the misery of footpath families whom you are feeding on percentages of statistics some of which you have mentioned in your comments.My request was,please do not allow leaders in both the countries to mislead the masses and divert their attention from the real issues of welfare of the common man .Right now,both the countries are really efficient in creating and enhancing problems for each other.This has to stop now.Both the nations are suffering in spite of your double digit growth rate of which you seem to be very proud. Recommend

  • Amit Kumar
    Aug 13, 2010 - 10:04PM

    Mere Bhai Jaan.. here are my experience.. I think Pakistani people are victim of their military and landlords propaganda. US inspite of recession is providing aid. Pakistan’s most trusted frieds China (with trillions of dollars) and other Islamic countries (with all petro dollars) are not helping much.

    Indians including me are totally convince that Haffez Saeed (with ISI) is mastermind of Mumbai attack, instead of putting him in custody Pakistani Army is facilitation him to mobilize his carders for Jihad against India. Now when its evident that Kashmiris no longer want to join Pakistan water became a big issue. India is stealing our water and lets go and do Jihad that was the mantra few days ago. Instead of doing this if Pakistani army and media should have focused on building Dams and utilizing available water things would have not gone so wrong.

    India has never stopped water, not even before Indus treaty. not even during wars and for all the pakistani provocation India did not do that. But for Pakistani establishment the goal is to bleed India by thousand cuts even if it means creating misery for its citizens. I am hopeful that one day people of Pakistan will realize this truth and will force its govt to end this hostility with India.

    Pakistani people should understand that we share a common emotional attachment also there are more muslims in India than Pakistan. We do not share the same attachment with US or middle east, but looks like Pakistan wants to be a part of Middle east instead of South Asia and i wish them all the best. But this is a very bad idea they have Petro dollars and can afford 12th century culture Pakistan cannot.Recommend

  • Amit Kumar
    Aug 13, 2010 - 10:15PM

    Zubair.. Indians and the world community are totally convince that Haffez Saeed (with ISI) is mastermind of Mumbai attack, instead of putting him in custody Pakistani Army is facilitation him to mobilize his carders for Jihad against India. UN has banned LET and JUD, but your goverment is treating him as an strategic asset to kill innocent indian (including indan Muslims).

    I am sorry to say.. but to put it bluntly indian perception is that If a sucide bomber is not a victim of terror, Pakistan is also not a victim of terrorisim. How many of your media condemened your Army and ISI when Haffez Saeed was faciliated to hold rallies in Lahore and other places.???Recommend

  • sid
    Aug 13, 2010 - 11:25PM

    Dear Pakistanis ,
    We hope all the good common people of Pakistan overcome this awful flood with minimal loss. Your county has been thru horrible events .
    The lack of prepardness by your govt. is a good example of what happens when a country cannot be governed democratically with strong institutions checkig each others powers . Mushraff had a chance to make things right but propping up the Taliban was his achivement .To make matters worse you have religious bigotry entrenched for now one full generation in the poorer sections . Your education system has crashed since it has been tampered with so many times and than there is this ISI org. which seems to be on its own by tacit army support. so in a nutshell you have a disaster of a country with nuclear weapons.
    The need of the hour is to wake up common Paksitanis for religious slumber and get working to create democratic institutions such as your big neighbor . Drop the hate campaign facing USA and the West and tell your Saudi Wahabi friends to drop ” hate all infidels” and istead build ifrastructure whcih will avoid these massive floods and other such calamities. wish all well !Recommend

  • Anoop
    Aug 14, 2010 - 1:29AM

    @cmsarvar,

    I understand where you are coming from. I do concentrate on the day to day issues that Indians face. I live in India and belong to the middle class so I am pretty sure how things stand.

    I do understand that there is massive poverty, illiteracy, malnutrition,etc in India. I am proud that my country after years of slow,excruciating growth has moved into the fast lane. Since, it not be appropriate here to about talk about Indian poverty alleviation I didnt bring it up.

    With regards to Indo-Pak issues, India and Pakistan have wasted many opportunities to bring a solution to all the disputes. The best hope for peace between India and Pakistan was when Musharaff was in power. Since, the military is the real power center we knew who to talk to when he was around. We almost reached an agreement they say! That is wonderful news. But, I dont see how the present setup in Pakistan is going to help. Army will be even more hawkish against India as we have seen already. I want true Democracy to prosper in Pakistan. I do not consider the present govt democratic as I dont consider Democracy minus Civilian supremacy a Democracy.

    @Zubair,

    India is not supporting any insurgency against Pakistan. During the last visit FM Krishna had made a statement in Pakistan to the effect and even said Pakistan has not produced any evidence. Pakistani military is just trying to counter India’s charge that Pakistan is supporting militancy in Kashmir by claiming that India is doing the same in Pakistan.

    Since, the nukes are in the picture, Pakistan’s defence is impenetrable. So, it can easily forget about the Indian border and concentrate on the brutes in the West. Recommend

  • Amit Kumar
    Aug 14, 2010 - 3:44AM

    Bhai Zubair..

    You can see that, in the new power game Judiciary, Army and media are on the same side to undermine the ruling democratic setup. I know Jardari is not a good president but the way he is demonized is purely motivated. The game is on to deligitimze the democratic setup and prepare the ground for Army take over (they have already taken over finance/internal/external policy).

    Granted Jardari is 100% corrupt, but in a democracy you wait for the next election. People will give their verdict. How many in the media questioned the recent visit of Army chief to Afganistan and UAE? Will Pak Army will slash is budget or its benefit to help the flood victim? Will Pak Army tone down its hawkish against India so that they can devote energy to the flood affected? Will the Pak army hasten the trial of Mumbai attack so that they can get some favour from India which will help the pakistani people? Will the Pak Army will allow food from India imported to Pakistan so that pakistani people can get cheaper foods?

    The answer is NO for all of the Above.

    Your Judiciary is now on the side of Army, its harssing the ruling govt and doing a favor to Army. Do you hear any case been talk about the missing person now? Why???

    Pkistan has absolutely nothing that India wants and India will never give up Kashmir to pakistan. Now on Indian side of Kashimri do not want to join Pakistan (2%) and 56% want independence. Indian government is trying to solve with by giving them some kind of Autonomy and economic package.

    So, the threat perception of Pakistani about India is manufactured and not real. The fact is that Army wants to rule Pakistan you should see that. This is my oberservation in recent months.Recommend

  • Zubair
    Aug 14, 2010 - 4:48AM

    @Anoop and Amit:
    It is very easy to blame on others and hard to digest anything about ur own self. As you have shown prrof of mumbai attcaks been planned by Hafiz Saeed or ISI. In the same way theer have been lot of evidences for indian hands behind the insurgencies in Pakistan. So its not as simple as u think that just by issuing a atatement from a FM that we have no involvment will resolve the issue.

    And for your kind information ISI is not just any institite. ISI represent PAK army and is the most organized intelligence agency in the world. They very well know what they are doing and all Pakistani ppl back them and trust them to all extents. And i dont think that we should hand over hafiz saeed or any one else to India. We have a strong judicial system and we can bring anybody to justice. Now as you said very swiftly that ur FM has given the statement about india not been involved in insurgencies in Pakistan. In the same way a very simple answer to ur claims about Hafiz Saeed is that “Pakistan has given the statement many times that evidences provided are not enough”…..

    The two countries have had wars among themselves and conditions have always been tense so its not a simple case of asking a person and it would be handed over to someone.

    I am not a war analyst or defence analyst and neither u r. But one thing is very simple and must be admitted by both parties that there have been issues caused by both parties and need a resolution. If you simply say that India is not behind anything and is not supporting any insurgency in Pakistan then obviously there would be no soft response from PAK either.
    Now after sufffering for 9 years in Afghanistan that has caused lot of suffering for Pakistan. We had lost a lot more then what we had gained from this WAR against terrorism. And now when USA is thinking to back off and come out of Afghanistan. India is again playing dirty and trying to establish their roots in Afghanistan. You think India will get away with all this and we will stay quite. So just dont talk about one bombay attack and make a conclusion on the basis of this one issue. Look at the overall picture, there are many unresolved issues.

    And also the people to whom u call terrorist now, once they were old good boys of USA. The super power priorities had changed long time back and they have to come up with one stunt (9/11 stunt) to play this whole dirty game. Iraq and afghanistan…both were far better countries b4 US invasion and no one icluding USA has the right to go their and interfere. And for Pakistan it was not by choice to be the ally of US. We were threaten to be taken to stone age if we dont participate. This whole situation is the result of an unwilling war from many allies and only to satisfy their master (USA). India no doubt is progressing fast and i admire the progress and it’s the matter of pride for whole Indian nation. But one very importnat thing is that India should learn the lesson from this afghan WAR and being a powerful country in the region should not act like the way USA did for the whole world i.e. A policeman for whole world.Recommend

  • Anoop
    Aug 14, 2010 - 7:29PM

    @Zubair,

    One more point. You seem to be really, really angry with the US for waging this war. Remember, its your army under Mushy who allowed Pakistan’s territory to be used. So another lie that US is solely responsible for this. If only Mushy had the guts to stand up to his master.

    If Pakistan stops allowing its territory to be used for NATO supplies the war stops tomorrow. Does it have the economic strength and wherewithal to do that? I think not.

    The world will respect Pakistan if it respects itself. Pakistan even allows the US drones to land in Pakistan after killing fellow Pakistanis in FATA! Recommend

  • Zubair
    Aug 15, 2010 - 4:58AM

    @Anoop:

    My dear friend you dont have a clue on this WAR. USA has no other option than to involve Pakistan and now all the support to Pakistan is only because now they want to engage Pak for talks with Taliban after a massive failue in Afghanistan. It was not by choice, Pakistan was under extreme pressure to become US ally because without Pakistan they are clueless in Afghanistan and they thought they will engage Pakistan and will achieve all their goals. But now they have realised it was a mistake but its far too late and they are again dependent on Pakistan for a resepectable exit from Afghanistan.
    This was another useless war, USA went to Iraq with a vision that they will take control over resources at the cost of other gulf state paying for their mobilisation and they should have learnt the lesson there that they have nothing to do with any state or any regime but instead they repeated the same mistake in Afghanistan.
    All countries have rights to run their state matters the way they like to unless they are not causing harms to any other state affairs. They (US) think only they can play dirty intelligence games by creating some terrorists figures and can do any thing any where in the world under their flag. Same is now happening in pakistan, under the name of TTP, Al Qaeda and other organisation, CIA, RAW, Mosad and many other agencies are playing drty games.

    Me and you have same blood and the people to whom u and myself call terrorist are no aliens. They are like us and have been used by these agencies either in a physical form or just a character name.

    This terrorism has always been there, its a simple use and abuse case. People are being used and when they are no more required they either become terrorist or are labelled as terrorist.

    There are already articles on Nato supply through pakistan and for your kind information, this supply through PAK is one source of income for Taliban as they get the comission to get these trucks to pass through the border and it is a known issue now. Point is that its is not as simple as you take it and things are not like you see. Its a war between agencies and is far more complex than it appears.

    Only remember one simple thing that we are all same, and then there are either criminals, or agents or paid contractors so u can call them terrorists, criminals or whatever and they are from all over the world not just PAKIS or just muslims.

    If a person from anhy other religion will do a crime, the news will be has done this thing. In case if he is muslim then the news will be “A muslim man name ” has done this thing……………….This is how western media manipulates……..Only justice can bring justice……Whats been done with ppl in Afghanistan and Iraq was definitely not a just act. Recommend

  • Shah khawar
    Aug 15, 2010 - 2:34PM

    @Zubair:

    Firstly, I am a Pakistani. Let us not try to defend the indefensible.Anoop is right. We were led by opportunists like Zia who, only to secure the US backing for their otherwise illegimitate government, decided to be lead the US war in Afghanistan against the former USSR. We allowerd them to use and abuse us. I am sure if we had mature and sincere politicians leading Pakistan at the time, things would have been different. See, the US could not and did not go to Afghanistan through Iran and chose the people who would help – their puppet Zia ul Haq in Pakistan.

    The same was the case with Musharraf. He was looking for international support and he saw an opportunity in 9/11. You should read what Colin Powell and Richard Armitage have said about all this. They had presented 7 demands to Pakistan after 9/11 which included 3 real demands and 4 points only as negotiation tactics which could be dropped (as they did not think Pakistan would accept those 4 at all). They were happily surprised to see that Pakistan accepted all 7 without a blink of an eye. Why? Because this time also it was another Zia ul Haq ruling in Pakistan whose name was Pervez Musharraf. What a shame :-(Recommend

  • Sheherzade
    Aug 18, 2010 - 6:21AM

    @ Shehrbano Taseer

    It must be wonderful for you to be writing such an enlightening piece about the problems of the masses in Pakistan. But I wonder if you know that there is no need for you to be going so far off, all the way to the US of A for assistance.
    How about squabbling with family for the rights of the workers employed in all its businesses. Workers who also belong to these masses and don’t need the USA to pay their salaries for three months?
    I wonder how many people here know that the businesses owned by the Taseer’s make the lives of the workers miserable. There was even an attempt by one worker to commit a suicide because of not getting paid for 2 consecutive months.Recommend

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