Water as fuel: In Swat, a self-taught engineer has a solution to the energy crisis

Published: May 14, 2012

SWAT: While the country witnesses its worst energy crisis, a 37-year-old self-taught mechanical engineer from Swat claims to have a solution.

After 20 years of research, Rehan Aziz Farooqi, has invented a unique power generator that runs solely on water, and, wait for it, the design can be used to allow any engine that runs on petrol, diesel or green gas to use water as fuel. He estimates that if the government applies his idea on a large-scale, Pakistan’s current electricity crisis can be resolved in three years time.

Explaining the workings of the power generator that he built from scratch, Farooqi said that water is first filled into a unit where it is split into hydrogen and oxygen gases through the process of electrolysis. The hydrogen gas is channelled to a reservoir, and then to an engine to be used as fuel to generate electricity.

“As water is abundantly available, electricity generated using this process will in fact be free of cost,” he exclaimed.

Farooqi claims to have spent more than Rs2 million on his invention and now requires the government’s permission and support to help him launch the product in the market. He has also asked the government to help him set up a research centre to find further applications for his invention.

“I have designed a method to power hydro turbines using this technology, which can go a long way in overcoming the electricity crisis within a few years,” he said. He also claimed to have drafted a method to generate electricity using the earth’s radiation.

Farooq said he does not want to hurry into launching the water-powered generator before making sure that the technology is a 100 per cent safe. Hydrogen is the lightest and most explosive gas, explained Farooq, and warned that even technical experts should proceed with caution if they are attempting to produce it in labs or their homes.

Apart from his major feats, Farooqi has initiated many other small research projects for children, in which he claims to prepare electricity using vegetables like tomatoes and potatoes. “Anything which has iron can generate electricity with a magnetic field. I can prove that practically if anyone wants,” he said. He added that he wants to teach people so that they can take up such projects themselves.

He urged the youth to put their creative abilities to work and help resolve the country’s issues.

Published in The Express Tribune, May 14th, 2012.

Reader Comments (111)

  • May 14, 2012 - 6:33AM

    Come on PCSIR and leading engineering universities of Pakistan immediately take the ownership of this project and there is every chance that this could be another APPLE company’s iPhone & iPad like invention for Pakistan. But, first this invention must be patented. Best of Luck to the genius son of Pakistan, Mr. Rehan Aziz Farooqi.

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  • American Desi
    May 14, 2012 - 7:01AM

    I am waiting for Mashaahallah to flow in from readers.Reminds me of Ramar Pillai’s herbal petrol discovered in India some years back. When things are too good to be true that means just that!

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  • wahwah khan
    May 14, 2012 - 7:15AM

    Engineers are born, not made. Well being a Mechanical and Petroleum Engineer, I can comprehend his method of producing hydrogen from water. But the question arises if he wants to run turbines with this hydrogen, you need external energy.
    There has been too many experiments over this idea around the world. But still you need some external energy to make this process happen. For Hydrolysis you still need energy to make it happen.

    If he still thinks that he can produce energy out of nothing(Water). Then he is rejecting the first law of thermodynamics i.e. You can not produce work without the expenditure of work. The best example of this is a Machine. A Machine does need external energy to do your work. For instance, Vaccum Cleaner, Refrigerator, Handpump, take anything.

    I wish him best of luck in the near future….But he is talking something which contradicts the basic laws of thermodynamics.

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  • mussarat ahmedzeb
    May 14, 2012 - 7:16AM

    serine valley magnetic mountains crystal clear water fresh crisp air and very talented people my beautiful Swat.

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  • Zamir Malik
    May 14, 2012 - 7:20AM

    Well i will remain a skeptic given the previous false hypes of our media. Unless we will see the Patent by this guy we cannot be sure that his design is unique or the design he is talking about is his own. Because the technology he is talking about is actually more than 80 Years old and was first demonstrated by Charles H. Garrett in 1935 when he used Electrolysis for hydrogen generation and his invention is known as Garrett electrolytic carburetor. The phenomena that guy is talking about is same. So somebody must ask him what is his design otherwise it might be just another case of Plagiarism . In the past even Our media outlets have dubbed one guy as Genius who in fact copied the Stirling engine design and later was deemed as a fraud. So it is my request to be cautious unless His patent and design would be unveiled.

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  • adeel759
    May 14, 2012 - 7:46AM

    Dr Samar Mubarak Mand has been offering solutions…………just like this Bright Engineer.

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  • Pakistani
    May 14, 2012 - 7:52AM

    government and commission taking lobby would definitely discourage this man too as they are doing Dr. Samar Mubarak Mand

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  • Sky
    May 14, 2012 - 7:53AM

    If indeed this is true and he has been able to generate electricity out of water fuel. And also it’s unique and never done before , then he need to get patent rights. Pakistan govt. or other research labs in Pakistan should encourage sons of our enriched soil.
    God bless you

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  • The more deluded
    May 14, 2012 - 7:57AM

    Ahem… electrolysis is the splitting of water using Electricity. You put in more energy into the process, than you would receive from burning the obtained hydrogen.

    A savvy investment, this is not.

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  • Ali
    May 14, 2012 - 8:05AM

    You do realize that electrolysis (as the name implies) uses gigantic amounts of electricity…

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  • Muhammad Ziad
    May 14, 2012 - 8:05AM

    hope he doesn’t end up like Stan Meyer.

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  • Irfan
    May 14, 2012 - 8:22AM

    Time and again, there are claims in our press, about such “break through”.
    It does create a catching headline for paper.

    What I suggest is that, newspaper seek professional scientific vetting of the information before such news or claims are printed.

    This item, claims to produce hydrogen by electrolysis, which consumes “Electricity”, (Expensive energy ) . Hydrogen thus produced is used to run an internal combustion engine (which is hardly 30% efficient) to produce electricity again !!

    So the overall scheme is useless !!. …as it consumes more energy then it actually produces.

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  • BLing BLing
    May 14, 2012 - 8:28AM

    Where will we get water from? We need a generator that runs on prayers.

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  • Hamad
    May 14, 2012 - 8:55AM

    The idea presented by the Engineer is exactly true. it is possible

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  • Irtiza
    May 14, 2012 - 8:58AM

    “As water is abundantly available, electricity generated using this process will in fact be free of cost,”

    Are you sure water is abundantly available?

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  • Truth_Prevails
    May 14, 2012 - 9:22AM

    Sounds great. However there is one important question, “Where do you get the power to carryout Electrolysis”

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  • Sunny
    May 14, 2012 - 9:23AM

    Great Talent !! if it works pakistan can be asian tiger in few years.. but out idiot government will never support such projects

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  • Niaz Muhammad
    May 14, 2012 - 9:31AM

    This man is separating ‘hydrogen’ from water by ELECTROLYSIS.

    This means that he uses ELECTRICITY to separate ‘hydrogen’ and ‘oxygen’ in water. He does this for the producing ELECTRICITY from HYDROGEN.

    ” Electricity + Water ——-> Hydrogen + Oxygen —-(a complex turbine and generation mechanism)—-> Electricity + Water ”

    This man has spent 2 million rupees and his life’s precious 20 years to ‘reinvent’ a very rudimentary principle of physics, which is known to elementary school students around the globe.

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  • May 14, 2012 - 9:33AM

    Aslam-o-Alaikum!

    Rehan Aziz you have done really a proud product for Pakistan. But I know about our Govrt. They will not give you any kind of permission because they eat from america and arabics. Arabic sell petrol to america and america sell petrol to Pakistan. I am very glad for your this product. But forget about it till there is no good govt. Zardari, Geelani, Nawaz group all of these are not a good govt. You can wait till they will die are any good person come before them.

    Regards
    M. Asif
    ISoLinks
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  • May 14, 2012 - 9:37AM

    not sure how he is doing that, but the theory is very much right – hydrogen is the most flammable gas and oxygen helps in burning and water is made of these 2.

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  • Saeed
    May 14, 2012 - 9:39AM

    Electrolysis to split watr into hydrogen and oxygen. Well you need electricity for that. So hydrogen isn’t a free fuel after all. SCAM. Nothing new about this. Google hydrogen fuel cell.

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  • Falcon
    May 14, 2012 - 10:08AM

    First of all, the very fact he is attempting it is quite respectable and inspiring. Secondly, I think it would have been helpful to publish his view regarding the productivity of his equipment since electrolysis itself consumes significant energy. Lastly, even if this were to become a reality, it will solve our energy problem but will accelerate our water shortage problem. For an energy solution to work in Pakistan, we have to be able to rely on resources that are abundant in Pakistan such as Coal and Sunlight (Solar).

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  • Human
    May 14, 2012 - 10:17AM

    What a useless effort to get popular. Please establish a FM channel first like Fazullah did.

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  • Truthbetold
    May 14, 2012 - 10:17AM

    @Zamir Malik:

    You are right! Electrolysis is a very old invention. Other forms of generating hydrogen such as fuel cell technologies are also well known and quite old. The problem with all these is that the laws of thermodynamics would prevent one from creating energy out of nothing. Electrolysis needs electrical energy input and the final energy conversion efficiency can never be 100%.

    This guy is a hoax or is reinventing wheels.

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  • Amamd
    May 14, 2012 - 10:28AM

    Mashallah, May our lazy govt. will take-up this good research & give signs other to do more than this.

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  • mr. righty rightist
    May 14, 2012 - 10:46AM

    This should be explored and he should be given all the support needed. This can benifit the entire world.

    Who knows, the next big thing – water engine – will be invented in Pakistan.

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  • Zohaib
    May 14, 2012 - 11:03AM

    Nothing is impossible in the world of Science. it is possible but wait for launching it

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  • Javed Afridi
    May 14, 2012 - 11:16AM

    Don’t waste your time Mr. Rehan Aziz Farooqi before you could invent something that can instill the ‘Will’ in our politicians to work for the betterment of the country.

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  • fahad
    May 14, 2012 - 11:22AM

    Now a days technology has offered to many solutions. Inshallah I will be returning to pak with a blue print and full assembling instructions of a self running magnetic generator which can run itself. It Would one need a kick start form a 9 volt battery and that’sit it will run itself and power itself, no diesel, petrol, sunlight,wind,water Just 15 to 20 magnets producing magnetic power transferred to coils and connected to main house hold supplies. All the assembly and parts are available in pakistan and 1 generator can be made in a maximum price of Rs,3,000 three thousand and can produce any where between 3 to 5 kws that 3000 to 5000 volts of fueless energy. Inshallah I will spread it among common people this technology. Just pray for me.

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  • Yuri Kondratyuk
    May 14, 2012 - 11:25AM

    Very good…if the electricity for electrolysis is harvested from magic!!

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  • xyz
    May 14, 2012 - 11:30AM

    I bet the foreigners will take notice of this before people from our country even start caring abt it.

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  • Tariq
    May 14, 2012 - 11:55AM

    I don’t know when will these agent rulers stop arresting and killing innocent people and will focus on these things!!!!!!

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  • M Imran Halim
    May 14, 2012 - 12:02PM

    For electrolysis he needs to use electrical energy to separate Oxygen & Hydrogen, so if he is utilizing less electrical energy and getting more at the end of combustion cycle then it’s working even though this process violate thermodynamics laws. But i think no law & equation is final because with time they either change or obsolete the way CERN is playing with Einstien’s theory of relativity by discovering neutrinos particles. But we hope for the best, whatever is the result I appreciate the research work done by this brainy guy and i wish him best of luck for his invention.

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  • Investor
    May 14, 2012 - 12:03PM

    Any other researcher in the field of solar concentrator parabolic or other green energy is looking for help, please contact me with your project or proposal and I’ll be more than happy to help you.
    I’m also thinking of setting up an R&D center in Sialkot on my next trip back to Pakistan.
    my email is filmitarian@yahoo.com

    Rgds

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  • May 14, 2012 - 12:08PM

    If he claiming to make fuel cell then it is very old. If something new then get the patents otherwise you are a lair.

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  • Rathore
    May 14, 2012 - 12:09PM

    Such a wonderful achievement by this man. Much appreciated.
    Now government should work to make this project happen on large scale.
    world needs to cut down its dependency on oil.

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  • Zamir Malik
    May 14, 2012 - 12:19PM

    @Truthbetold: Well that is why i said I am skeptic right now unless the design and Patent will not be unveiled. Also Secondly the guy claimed that he can generate electricity through Earth Radiation but in my view there is not any Earth Radiation. Sun radiates energy and Earth Absorbs some and in the end the Earth Reradiates some of the energy but according to Science Earth cannot radiate on it own. It re-radiates. the Sun’s radiation.

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  • Saud
    May 14, 2012 - 12:27PM

    I have not seen the invention but it defies the laws of physics. If he is using electricity to separate water into Hydrogen and oxygen then he is in all likely hood consuming more energy than he is producing. Never gonna work. Still worth a look at by some engineering university to rule out that 0.001% chance it is the real deal and more importantly to bust the myth.

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  • Babar
    May 14, 2012 - 12:27PM

    It would help if ET made sure that the correspondents tasked with reporting on scientific matters know the law of conservation of energy. That law, which is supposed to have been mastered in class 10, spells doom for all such projects of energy generation, especially from water through electrolysis. The energy needed for electrolysis for separation of hydrogen will always be more than you will get when you recombine hydrogen and oxygen to go back to water state.

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  • JA
    May 14, 2012 - 1:00PM

    I don’t want to discourage the guy, but it is not a novel idea, in fact engineers and scientist have already tried but dropped it because of high cost of electrolysis involved. A fuel cell is based on same concept, some modern hybrid car is utilizing it. Hydrogen could be used in engine to create combustion like as in Internal combustion engine, but driving a turbine with hydrogen is not a good idea and not viable, as well.

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  • Umair
    May 14, 2012 - 1:01PM

    and how exactly will he do electrolysis without power!!!

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  • Ahsan
    May 14, 2012 - 1:03PM

    Assalam u Alaikum

    I am amazed that so many people blindly saying “wow” thing….. O dear, This is not at all a “Break Through” to Develop an Electrolysis System by spending Rs. 2 Million, as he claims. We need “Serious Efforts” in the Field of “Renewable Energy Resources”. I recommend what Mr. Irfan said, with little doubts on the Efficiency of “Internal Combustion Engine” and also that Electrolysis and Collection of Hydrogen is a complex and very very costly process. So technically speaking, “Hydrogen” is the fuel here, not “water”

    Peace !!!

    Wassalam

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  • Acorn Guts
    May 14, 2012 - 1:13PM

    Well, if he claims that his machine burns, say, one unit of energy (through electrolysis) to generate two units of useable energy (to be a considered a worthwhile generator this is least it should do) then forget the power crisis! we have bent the laws of the Physics here .. inter galactic travel is possible and we can even bend space and time now!

    But of course, it doesn’t. The electrolysis will require more energy then it will ever produce and thus it is no different than attaching a 1.5v light bulb to pencil cell and claiming it can run a solar panel plant.

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  • M Ali Khan
    May 14, 2012 - 1:15PM

    The scientific ignorance of the masses is appalling.

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  • May 14, 2012 - 1:19PM

    No doubt its can work but the main thing is that what its efficiency , cost and is it applicable or not?, Rehan Aziz Farooqi has lot of talent but i think he didn’t understand basic principal of science and law of conservation

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  • Mad-Paki
    May 14, 2012 - 1:20PM

    Innovation should be encouraged and supported even if it doesnt make any sense at the beginging. That is how all new technologies came to being.

    People who are commenting negatively dont understand this fact except that they want to debate anything or everything to death.

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  • Irtiza
    May 14, 2012 - 1:27PM

    It would be nice to see some figures for the output generated by the machine. He mentions he uses Electrolysis, which by definition means some of the electrical output is lost in splitting the Hydrogen-Oxygen atoms.

    Throughput is important for any machine, and if this one loses about 80% of it in generating the other 20%, we’re talking about a yield not high enough for commercial production.

    Oh, and we have a water shortage in summer months…apparently India is building a dam upstream to one of our rivers, and KP doesn’t want to make Kalabagh. So there is an accute shortage of reservoirs.

    Sorry if I’m bursting the bubble here.

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  • Abbas Saqib
    May 14, 2012 - 1:28PM

    @fahad: Try your best and email me at leosaqib@gmail,com any of your progress. I may provide media coverage and sponsorship to you.

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  • May 14, 2012 - 1:30PM

    MashAllah what a great talent

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  • sidjeen
    May 14, 2012 - 1:39PM

    most of the people who have commented here are very excited about this but there is nothing new about it this technology is very old and not very efficient the holy grail of the energy sector is to create or rather convert energy from one form to another in as less cost as possible and you cannot do that using electrolysis this should be known to anyone who have studied elementary school science. in other words our self taught engineer is not an engineer.

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  • Mj
    May 14, 2012 - 2:06PM

    Dear ET,

    Can you please have your science articles vetted by a person from scientific background before they are published?

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  • May 14, 2012 - 2:13PM

    Sheikhs and Oligarchs would liquidate him to protect the petro dollar empire. They have killed in excess of 2000 scientists all over the world.

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  • Furqan
    May 14, 2012 - 2:35PM

    I am chemical engineer and i would say that what a waste of time and money by this gentleman.

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  • Khalq e Khuda
    May 14, 2012 - 2:35PM

    Almost all of us have studied this in school; its called electrolysis!

    And the problem is not the possibility of it but rather the feasibility of it; if the guy has found out some cheaper method of creating a hydrogen cell it would be great but looks unlikely.

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  • sohail osman ali
    May 14, 2012 - 2:50PM

    I told my servant about this amazing generator that runs on water, and that the inventor needs government help now. My servant’s comment, “why would the government help him, they can’t make any kickbacks out of this invention”

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  • Zeeshan Sheikh
    May 14, 2012 - 3:23PM

    I am no good at chemistry but I think it is possible if it is installed on a river having good wind,
    then an external power can be provided by wind turbines. so that electrolysis method can be done. seems like a feasible idea.

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  • PSYCHO
    May 14, 2012 - 3:34PM

    i am just amaized to see so many comments from so many people who have not even disected a single lab rat… Dont talk the talk, walk the walk… Has anyone of you self proclaimed engineers engineered anything except the great words of wisdom you are enlighting us with right now… I appreciate him to the extent that he has atleast done something even if for his own satisfaction… Appreciated brother… Keep up the good work.. atleast you have put the knowledge gained to some use instead of nothing at all…

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  • Basit Khan
    May 14, 2012 - 3:50PM

    Let’s leave the so-called ‘innovation’ of electrolysis alone and get on with the more realistic, cheap, tried & tested ways of producing electricity. River Swat and it’s tributaries have potentials for medium sized Hydel power projects owing to their steep flow especially in the Bahrain-Kalam regions; 10s of feet of head offered over a mile.

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  • Ashraf P
    May 14, 2012 - 4:12PM

    YIPPEEEE !! The World’s Energy Crisis is OVER !!!! Pakistan will be the richest nation in the world !!!! We will export WATER !!!!!

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  • Babar
    May 14, 2012 - 4:18PM

    Just a clarification. Hydrogen cells are just a device to “store” energy. They do not generate energy out of nowhere. The main idea of hydrogen fuel cell is to use some cheap form of energy ( such as hydral generated power) to power the cell and put to use to run cars instead of gasoline.

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  • khalsa
    May 14, 2012 - 4:42PM

    electrolysis is neither an efficient process to obtain hydrogen nor the h2 obtained can be burned to obtain energy more than being pumped into the electrolysis.
    in the entire article only thing that impressed me was that he is a self-taught mechanical engineer. thats it.

    and yeah this idea is very old and proved useless

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  • Muhammad Iqbal
    May 14, 2012 - 5:18PM

    There is nothing new in this idea; everybody having basic knowledge of science knows that we can break water into hydrogen and oxygen with electrolysis process. The important point is efficiency which up to now is negative, means you need more energy to make hydrogen then generated by burning this hydrogen in any internal combustion engine or in a boiler.

    All the research in this area has focus on a single point that how to generate hydrogen from water spending less energy on electrolysis, running turbine and making electricity is not big deal we know this very well.

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  • ati
    May 14, 2012 - 5:59PM

    Let us see if this source is feasible and efficient for energy production.i doubt it though.

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  • Realist
    May 14, 2012 - 6:05PM

    How much is the cost of splitting water into Hydrogen both initial cost and energy cost?

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  • Joe Bloggs
    May 14, 2012 - 6:06PM

    Someone get this man the address of Patents Office. It has been the dream of many generations to produce combustion from water by splitting Hydrogen + Oxygen. Like Alchemist who spent lifetimes TRYING to turn base metals to gold! Those Alchemists could have done wonders for science if they had diverted thier energies to some mundane task like research.

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  • Farhan
    May 14, 2012 - 6:13PM

    I think this guy does not know what he is talking about. The amount of electricity spent on electrolysis is far higher than what can be obtained after burning hydrogen or even passing hydrogen from a fuel cell. If such a cycle is possible than same water can re-circulate again and again through the process with generating surplus electricity (which he is claiming) and is a violation of basic laws of physics. I don’t know why media jumps to such quacks.

    I would like to know by which method he estimated that he can solve pakistan energy problems in 3 years with his device

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  • Sobriquet
    May 14, 2012 - 7:26PM

    @Niaz Muhammad:
    The fact that this man has taken 20 years to ‘reinvent’ something that most elementary school children know, goes to show the level of ignorance in Pakistan, especially among journalists at the Pakistan Tribune.

    For decades experimental combustion engines have been running on hydrogen, with the gas being separated through electricity from photovoltaic generators. Currently several countries are running trials of hydrogen-powered buses using such hydrogen, but its storage, safety and costs are the limiting factors. Obviously Pakistan Tribune is ignorant about all this.

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  • let there be peace
    May 14, 2012 - 7:28PM

    @American Desi:
    Ramar Pillai- that is the first thing that came to my mind on reading the headline. I was in school then and after reading the headline in newspaper I was so happy that India is going to be richest country now.

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  • Zahoor
    May 14, 2012 - 7:49PM

    I myself have seen his demonstration. he is right and genuine. government must give him assistance and permission to launch it

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  • Abdul-Razak Edhy
    May 14, 2012 - 7:55PM

    @The more deluded: Very true.

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  • Faraz
    May 14, 2012 - 7:55PM

    This guys either is a complete hoax or does not understand physics at all. And to all those great engineers/scientists commenting here ….better concentrate on something you know! Irony is our media behaves irresponsibly, like illiterate/unaware masses just jumps on anything sensational.

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  • Faraz
    May 14, 2012 - 7:58PM

    @Syed Nayyar Uddin Ahmad:
    you are too innocent. Don’t trust whatever you get to read in the news, especially these ‘inventions’ not verified by any science/research authority, just promoted by…..for lack of a better word …unaware journalists.

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  • Akhtar Rind
    May 14, 2012 - 8:01PM

    This looks like to me a fuel cell system which may be more than 100 year old technology. Water only as a source seems dubious to me. I would rather say, do not be so hyper on this “invention”.

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  • Faraz
    May 14, 2012 - 8:03PM

    ET actually should take this news off. Must be embarrassing for the paper to give space to this ‘invention’. I mean, people all over the world read this, lets not make us an embarrassment and can ET please verify these inventions first by a relevant authority… before giving them coverage. You would never see such news in another English daily unless verified. Recommend

  • ashar
    May 14, 2012 - 8:12PM

    Very good article for arts students.

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  • JT
    May 14, 2012 - 9:16PM

    This is ancient, but Kudos to the gent if he did this without help (although he could get the design from any A level text book), hydrogen fuel cells are the way forward, not spontaneous Hydrogen generation. Recommend

  • Arif Khalil
    May 14, 2012 - 9:17PM

    Dear a few months back I met another guy like that in Rawalpindi who spent millions of rupees on this same idea, he burnt every single penny of him and his family and the result is just 2 Watts after spending 10 Watts. He is still crazy and trying to burn anyone’s dreams and money who says ‘wow, you are doing a national service’.

    So please stop pushing people into unwanted hell using a simple ‘wow’ and try make them understand that the Lord is same as His laws. You cannot deviate His paths, ever!

    Wassalam,
    ARIF KHALIL

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  • May 14, 2012 - 9:27PM

    I would like to see the experiment infront of me. Might be his method use less electricity and produces more energy. It is worth checking before rejecting it altogether. Most of the previous methods doesn’t work in this way.

    He is confident and saying all this, there must be some truth (even 10%).

    I have seen in my life that solution provided by ordinary people like electricians etc work more than the solution provided by Pakistani PhDs in those fields especially power engineering. ( Most of you might not agree with me but it is my experience)

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  • Hadi Ansari
    May 14, 2012 - 9:28PM

    I do not believe in his theory but admire his courage in getting ET project his imagination.

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  • Sabih Zafar Ullah
    May 14, 2012 - 9:55PM

    Woah! Tribune, look at your standards… Look at them!

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  • computerperson
    May 14, 2012 - 10:13PM

    Wow, a perpetual energy machine!

    How stupid is this?

    No wonder they have an energy crisis!Recommend

  • Munawar Ali Shah
    May 14, 2012 - 10:19PM

    Express trib people are crazy for putting this up. He is not even claiming he can produce electricity from water. what he said in urdu was that you can split water through electrolysis and then use the resultant H2O as fuel in an engine.

    In the end he mentions that the swat river has a lot of potential for producing electricity. (he probably means through conventional hydropower turbines.

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  • Mani
    May 14, 2012 - 10:40PM

    Hain :o

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  • Munawar Ali Shah
    May 14, 2012 - 10:46PM

    The text does not go with the video. Express tribune is going to have to take this back. The voice over in the video says that this gas can be used as a substitute for Petrol, Gas or Diesel.

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  • Rehan
    May 14, 2012 - 11:50PM

    Water is harder to find than oil ! Hello? And what in the world will we drink or use to grow crops once what little that is left runs out ?!
    Regards,
    Rehan

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  • soothla
    May 15, 2012 - 12:14AM

    Please do not go commercial with this project just yet.Pakistan cannot afford to anger its Arab neighbours who depend on oil for revenue.Oil will become useless if you go ahead with this discovery.
    We must not upset our Arab friends who always helped us in our troubles.

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  • saif mansoor
    May 15, 2012 - 12:25AM

    yup , the problem with hydrogen cell has remained that hydrogen is very explosive and in a country like ours implementation of such a project might mean that we do terrorists job ourselves. also i dont think that this is the first hydrogen cell project , so can you please mention what makes this one unique???
    P.S none of this is intended to be sarcasm or take any credit away from the inventor. it is an actual question .

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  • Omer
    May 15, 2012 - 12:28AM

    Ummm…..wouldn’t electrolysis to break H2O into H and O2 require electricity?

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  • Harris Hassan
    May 15, 2012 - 12:29AM

    baywakoof banana ho to banda pakistaniyo ko banayay….. :D

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  • May 15, 2012 - 12:49AM

    @All: Government should promote him and if it doesn’t, then atleast we Swatis should do something for him by acknowledging, promoting and financing him, as he is doing all this for us. What do you think guys?

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  • WhyMeLord
    May 15, 2012 - 12:59AM

    The device as represented violates one or more of the Laws of Thermodynamics.

    http://www.physicsplanet.com/articles/three-laws-of-thermodynamics

    To paraphrase Homer Simpson*: “In this world, we obey the Laws of Thermodynamics”

    *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer_Simpson

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  • jack
    May 15, 2012 - 1:07AM

    Lol…this technology is 80 yrs old… u need electricity to produce hydrogen fron water by electrolysis…this is not so efficient technology…any one studying in elementery school will know that……just google it and u will find dozens of this kind of claims… Till now the greenest way to produce electricity is only wind and solar energy…Recommend

  • Hammad
    May 15, 2012 - 1:24AM

    i want to fund this man and his project how do we go about it ? how do we contact him ? Express can you be of any help ?

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  • Truthbetold
    May 15, 2012 - 1:29AM

    @Zamir Malik:

    “@Truthbetold: Well that is why i said I am skeptic right now unless the design and Patent will not be unveiled.”

    Being a skeptic inherently assumes a possibility for this being right. I can definitely tell with 100% certainty that what this guy claims wrong. He is misleading people that he can make things run on water!

    Sure, you can use electrolysis to generate hydrogen, but it takes a lot of electrical energy to generate hydrogen. Where is this electrical energy going to come from? There are a lot more efficient ways to generate hydrogen. A lot of work has been done over the last 50 years on different fuel cell technologies to generate hydrogen. The reason this hasn’t yet become commercial is that it has not been economical.

    So, don’t just be a skeptic, but just reject this guy’s claim outright.

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  • LionOfPunjab
    May 15, 2012 - 1:31AM

    I fondly remember another article in this esteemed news paper about a couple running a “camel milk” empire. This miraculous “camel milk” was full of insulin and could cure diabetes. Now we have genius scientist who can solve our energy problem with using water!! Pakistan is full of geniuses, only if can elect a leader like imran khan, who can harness this ideas!
    Damn those cunning indians, they control our waters, how did they know in advance about this scientific break through?

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  • European
    May 15, 2012 - 1:33AM

    Just to answer the question of efficiency. Electricity is first converted to chemical energy via electrolysis, then to mechanical energy in the engine, and finally to electrical energy again. More electricity has to be put into the electrolysis, then the generator is going return in the end, as both electrolysis and especially engines have bad efficiencies. In the ideal case of 100% efficiency in every step, the 100 units electricity become 100 units again. It is an energy dissipation machine. The best tool to spread the energy crisis. Shocking to see the education level here. This is 8th grade level. Every human being claiming to have a degree or or an A-level should know these basics. No wonder people follow Zakir Naik, believe in Jinns and in a kinds of magic and are fooled by creationists. And the editor this article definitely needs a basic physics course. Especially sad, as this newspaper is associated with the NYT.

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  • Truthbetold
    May 15, 2012 - 1:52AM

    @Realist:

    There are various methods of producing hydrogen. The price per “gallon equivalent of gasoline” varies from about $5 to $15 depending on the process used. The electrolysis method being one of the most expensive. The least expensive being the production of hydrogen by chemical methods from coal and natural gas.

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  • Charles
    May 15, 2012 - 2:24AM

    @Irtiza: Definitely, you have all the water of the seas, then once you burn hydrogen (you add oxygen during the process), you get water again.

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  • Ahmad
    May 15, 2012 - 5:21AM

    Generating hydrogen by the electrolysis of water and then burning it to produce mechanical power in an internal combustion engine does’t violates first and second laws of thermodynamics in any way.

    The only thing that matters is that to make electrolysis process more efficient so that it uses less energy than the energy you get by burning hydrogen.

    PS: IF YOU DON’T FULLY KNOW THE IMPLICATIONS OF THERMODYNAMIC LAWS, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.

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  • May 15, 2012 - 12:28PM

    Guys stop these laymen arguments and let have technical experts involved in this matter. Don’t base your logics on a few basic physics principals. Theories and laws are subject to changes and science doesn’t have boundaries. I am interested in meeting this guy and see his work once I go home(Swat). If technical experts think it is something feasible then I think we the people should support, encourage and finance him some way as government doesn’t considers it as its business. We, the people, have to help ourselves. Recommend

  • Hajira Amir
    May 15, 2012 - 6:17PM

    Many people who berate this genius forget that even Edison had no formal education.
    Brother, Don’t worry. Imran Khan will become President in next election and he will set up big, big powerplants to make electricity. Soon we will export electricity to Arabia, Dubai, Bahrain, etc. but not to India because we are located in Arabia and not in some South Asia.
    I also have one request. After turning the hydro turbines with hydrogen, can you please mix it with oxygen to make water? I ask this because I saw today’s Tribune and we also seem to have a water problem -> http://tribune.com.pk/story/378750/yearning-for-water/

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  • Tariq
    May 15, 2012 - 6:34PM

    @fahad:

    First of all this guy from Swat who has claimed to have made this ” imaginary ” generator that would separate hydrogen and water in thin air without any energy input sounds just too good to be true … I am an IT expert and not mechanical expert but still my limited knowledge in the field kicks me in my guts when I want to believe this fiction.

    Secondly, what you are saying is even more bold and brave …. I just dont know how to describe it … if what you are saying is true and you will definitely be able to deliver what you are claiming then put down for the order , delivery and upfront payment for atleast 3 generators :)

    When do you think you will be able to make this kind of power generator anyway? any time frames?

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  • Umer Sheikh
    May 15, 2012 - 7:05PM

    It contradicts the first law of thermodynamics..where is he getting the energy for the electrolysis? Given energy transformations are never highly efficient, as a net result he is using more energy than can ne produced from using the hydrogen as fuel.

    Electrolysis (high energy use, low efficiency process so energy loss) -> hydrogen, used in either an internal combustion engine (low efficiency so energy loss) or fuel cell (around 80-90% efficiency off the top of my head, so still energy loss) = journalism fail.

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  • hasnain
    May 15, 2012 - 8:02PM

    Where in his interview he said he uses electolysis to split hydrogen and oxygen? he said he invented some way to split hydrogen and oxygen . Untill we dont know what is the method he is using for splitting we cant comment if he is genius or not

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  • Hajira Amir
    May 15, 2012 - 8:55PM

    @hasnain: Please read the article before commenting.
    “Explaining the workings of the power generator that he built from scratch, Farooqi said that water is first filled into a unit where it is split into hydrogen and oxygen gases through the process of electrolysis.”

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  • Ali Raza
    May 20, 2012 - 5:11PM

    i hope its not a scam

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  • May 24, 2012 - 2:43PM

    pakistani people are talented but they dont have support from government. we have to encourage them throw emails and phone calls for the respect of pakistanRecommend

  • May 24, 2012 - 2:44PM

    really nice pakistani talent is always on the top but the main problem is that they dont have supportRecommend

  • usman
    May 31, 2012 - 8:10AM

    Great hardworking

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  • Pagla
    Jun 4, 2012 - 9:59AM

    @Syed Nayyar Uddin Ahmad:
    This guy is trying to kill the first and second laws of thermodynamics which has NEVER BEEN POSSIBLE. If people complain on the general lawlessness in the society, they should cry and probably kill themselves from shame if this guy is being appreciated for ignoring those laws.

    And Mr Engineer guy who made this, READ THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS FOR HEAVEN’S SAKE.

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  • asad
    Jun 20, 2012 - 12:14AM

    This is not electrolysis. Kindly read more about Stanley Meyers fuel cell. He used such a device which required a pulsating DC to be the input to the plates which were immersed in water. KOH was added as a catalyst. He called his device as the Water capacitor. This guy has not made anything new. There are two possibilities here 1) He replicated the Stanley Meyers devices which is a big achievement. 2) He used conventional electrolysis which is not a big thing. Secondly Water is the fuel source here. Its called hydrogen gas on demand. You can make hydrogen on demand from the load. for example if you push the accelerator of the car it demands more petrol. The concept is similar if you push the accelerator a water car will demand more hydrogen which will be produced by using the fuel cells which in turn use water as their fuel. SO YES WATER IS THE FUEL HERE!!!

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