Not allies: 8 dead as TTP, Haqqani Network clash in North Waziristan

Published: April 19, 2012

There was no estimate of how many fighters were involved, but sources said the number runs in the hundreds for both groups.

PESHAWAR: Intense clashes between the Haqqani Network and the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan left at least eight people dead in North Waziristan Agency, local sources said on Thursday.

“Taliban attacked Malik Karim Khan’s tribe late Wednesday night. The tribe resisted the attack, leading to crossfire,” a local resident said, requesting anonymity.

Sources told The Express Tribune that the clash started in the early hours of Thursday and intensified after the deaths of TTP Commander Jehanzeb Khan and Haqqani Commander Qadir Haqqani.

Clashes erupted in the Malik Shadam Khan area of NWA’s Speen Waam sub-district, which shares a border with Afghanistan. Six people, including a woman, were killed by members of the Haqqani Network in the primary clash. In retaliation, two Haqqani Network men were killed and several houses in the area suffered damage due to the use of heavy weaponry.

According to an official of the Mirali Political Administration, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the event, a local tribal elder Gulbuddin was killed in the clash. Gulbuddin was among those tribesmen who were trying to broker a ceasefire between the two parties.

The group continued fighting at the time of filing this report. Sources said the TTP was led by Sattar, who was nominated the commander after his cousin Jehanzeb’s death. The Haqqani Network, they said, is being commandeered by a man named Sangeen.

They said that residents have begun fleeing the area, where both groups have taken positions against each other. Tribal elders and religious clerics are making efforts to broker a ceasefire between the warring groups.

There was no estimate of how many fighters were involved, but sources said the number runs in the hundreds for both groups.

 

Reader Comments (59)

  • wali baba
    Apr 19, 2012 - 11:55PM

    thats a good news, evil fighting evil, this time two wrongs are making right. may the both groups vanish fighting each other. and then the winner fights BLA

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  • smj
    Apr 19, 2012 - 11:56PM

    It’s good news for Pakistan.

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  • Imran
    Apr 19, 2012 - 11:59PM

    It is good that they blow up themselves and die.

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  • Cautious
    Apr 20, 2012 - 12:01AM

    Do Pakistanis ever wonder How two armed militias can go to war against each other in the middle of your “sovereign territory” and there never seems to be any sign of your own police or military to stop them? Maybe this territory really doesn’t belong to Pakistan?

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  • OG
    Apr 20, 2012 - 12:11AM

    this is great news! lets these animals kill each other

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  • adam
    Apr 20, 2012 - 12:16AM

    I am happy to hear that at least some people got the courage to fight Haqani network in Pakistan

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  • Raj
    Apr 20, 2012 - 12:16AM

    wow… sounds like April fool…

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  • Noise
    Apr 20, 2012 - 12:26AM

    The government should be the one killing them. Things should never have been allowed to get so out of control that private armies fight each other in lawless territory. The state should not shrink from it’s responsibility.

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  • Ahmed
    Apr 20, 2012 - 12:29AM

    I am a happy man, but I am sorry for the woman

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  • Owais
    Apr 20, 2012 - 12:33AM

    America must b funding them!

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  • Karachiite
    Apr 20, 2012 - 12:34AM

    Kill each other!!!

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  • ashok
    Apr 20, 2012 - 12:35AM

    @wali baba:

    Not all in Pakistan would agree with your assertion that both parties are evil.

    Hawks and Jehadi brigade in Pakistan would never want this to happen. They wants Haqqani network continued to be armed and protected by the Pakistan establishment so that they can install a proxy regime led by Taliban in Kabul who declares all Indians in Afghanistan as person non grata very next day.

    Why do Pakistan need Kashmir if its writ does not run in FATA and Balochistan?

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  • fahim
    Apr 20, 2012 - 12:38AM

    and we go on chest thumping that there are no problems within our borders, we are bathed in milk and honey and we know nothing about how these people live inside our borders. Nonsense. Any person outside of this forbidden land who reads daily news from here, will surely believe that this country is the epicenter of all global extreme problems.

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  • DB
    Apr 20, 2012 - 12:43AM

    ISI strategy showing some early signs of success. NATO strategy in late stage terminal cancer.

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  • pakistanivillager
    Apr 20, 2012 - 12:45AM

    More likely its Afghan/Yankee Special Forces deep in Pakistan territory..

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  • aslam beig
    Apr 20, 2012 - 12:48AM

    Taleban is pakistani group whereas haqani is afghani. let the best group win this interesting match between pak and afg.

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  • MAHEEN TIRMIZI
    Apr 20, 2012 - 12:48AM

    Haqqani Network has never attacked or harmed Pakistan whereas TTP are pure animals! May TTP be crushed!!!

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  • abbas
    Apr 20, 2012 - 1:01AM

    May this fight lasts till each and every killer gets killed.

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  • Babloo
    Apr 20, 2012 - 1:08AM

    Both Haqanni and TTP , should call in US drone strikes, on each others position.

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  • bangash
    Apr 20, 2012 - 1:23AM

    This is the reality on the ground, yet Pakistan govt constantly barks about “sovereignty”. It is militant groups who are sovereign in FATA.

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  • Sajid
    Apr 20, 2012 - 1:31AM

    The Haqqani Network, they said, is being commandeered by a man named Sangeen

    Halaat sangeen nahi tou kia hongay phir

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  • ZorbaTheRealGreek
    Apr 20, 2012 - 1:48AM

    The Haqqani network will win since they got the army on their side. They are more “useful” in afghanistan and they don’t create trouble inside pakistan.

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  • Kamran
    Apr 20, 2012 - 1:49AM

    Our strategic assets in trouble.

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  • Rehan
    Apr 20, 2012 - 1:51AM

    Good news for pakistan…lets hope that they both killed each other till their last man.
    @ Adam US themselves tries to negotiate with Taliban and Haqqani’s and left all mess on Pakistan to clean it up….

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  • Arijit Sharma
    Apr 20, 2012 - 1:58AM

    What happens if this spills into urban areas ?

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  • Lala Gee
    Apr 20, 2012 - 2:00AM

    TTP is financed and armed by CIA+RAW alliance in order to assert control over Pakistan by posing a destabilizing threat to achieve their strategic objectives, while Haqqani network has the sympathies of ISI for providing help in neutralizing the threat of TTP. I am not a fan of extremism and extremists, but the fact is one is working against Pakistan and other is helping Pakistan.

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  • SM
    Apr 20, 2012 - 2:19AM

    Hopefully the Haqqanis beat the heck out of the TTP…

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  • Bhindian
    Apr 20, 2012 - 2:31AM

    Told you Haqqani was our ally!

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  • Apr 20, 2012 - 2:32AM

    As Atif Aslam sang:
    hona tha pyaar …. hua mere yaar

    You can replace ‘pyaar’ with ‘war’ in this case.

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  • Apr 20, 2012 - 2:33AM

    Not Allies:

    Of course not.

    TTP = NATO & RAW funded mercenaries,
    Haqqanis = Afghan Taliban (of dual Afghan-Pakistan nationality).

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  • Syed Haider
    Apr 20, 2012 - 2:34AM

    Attacks take place in Afghanistan, for which the Haqqani Network is blamed by the US/NATO Forces. A couple of days later, the TTP, an enemy of the Pakistani state, starts attacking the Haqqani Network.

    If the Haqqani Network is a proxy of the ISI, this report guarantees that the TTP is a proxy of the US/NATO Forces, with its safe havens in NE Afghanistan. The same case with Mangal Bagh & the LeI.

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  • Syed Haider
    Apr 20, 2012 - 2:35AM

    I am glad that the ISI has reined in on the TTP, splintering them badly, & letting them kill themselves (the TTP-Afridi faction & the LeI) off in their turf wars (in Tirah & other locations); & the LeI (getting killed by the local Lashkars); both foreign proxies. As of now, the tribes have recognized that these are funded & armed from Afghanistan, & there is no support coming from them.

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  • Roflcopter
    Apr 20, 2012 - 2:37AM

    Haqqani is pro Pakistan

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  • DB
    Apr 20, 2012 - 2:40AM

    @Cautious:
    It’s called tribal areas for a reason. Do Indians ever wonder why they can’t control their entire Northeast and Kashmir?

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  • usmanx
    Apr 20, 2012 - 2:45AM

    Cautious, as another indian not living in india, perhaps you could tell us what control india has in the seven sisters area?

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  • Hafeez
    Apr 20, 2012 - 2:58AM

    I feel bad for the people sandwiched between these two groups

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  • usmanx
    Apr 20, 2012 - 3:02AM

    Ashok
    Why do India need Kashmir if its writ is despised by its inhabitants?

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  • Singh
    Apr 20, 2012 - 3:07AM

    It is time to think how more war can be spread between these two group or Non-state actor, so Pakistan,India & Afghanistan can be at peace.Let these Non-state actor kill each other minus women & children.

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  • Babloo
    Apr 20, 2012 - 3:27AM

    Its a fight between ex-assets and current-assets.

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  • Apr 20, 2012 - 3:37AM

    Pakistan should amalgamate tribal areas into K PK, whichever are the adjacent districts.

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  • MarkH
    Apr 20, 2012 - 3:46AM

    @DB:
    That doesn’t even make sense.

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  • Junaid
    Apr 20, 2012 - 3:49AM

    Go Haqqani Go Kill TTP !!!

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  • Junaid
    Apr 20, 2012 - 3:50AM

    Next Target for Haqqani BLA

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  • anybodyagree
    Apr 20, 2012 - 5:41AM

    don’t be happy people one brother is killing the other, look deep who were BEHIND them . . ???/

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  • How?
    Apr 20, 2012 - 6:16AM

    Its a pity that all innocent civilians are being killed.

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  • Tina A
    Apr 20, 2012 - 7:28AM

    Strategic Asset v/s Strategic Asset = Tactical Liability

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  • Pragmatist
    Apr 20, 2012 - 7:30AM

    Wait a minute, but the ISI sees the Haqqani network as their friends and ideological partners. So, I guess, their ‘sympathies’ would be with them – at least until the time that they don’t turn against the ISI.

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  • unbeliever
    Apr 20, 2012 - 7:48AM

    @DB:
    well, who told you that indians don’t have control over north east?

    tribal people doesn’t mean that they are incapable of listening governments.
    if the govt. works for them they are more happy to align themselves with govt than with the selfish tribal leaders.

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  • M. A. Changezi
    Apr 20, 2012 - 7:51AM

    @ashok: Not all but most will. Believe it. Both are evils. They deserve each other. I say nobody interfere until one is sent down the pit.

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  • Lawangin
    Apr 20, 2012 - 8:39AM

    Killing does not help. In Pashtoon society whether this is Haqqani or TTP, pashtoon are killed on both sides. Once a Pashtoon fell, the whole family and tribe is out for revenge. Whoever is doing this killing business is Pashtoon enemy # 1.

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  • ashok
    Apr 20, 2012 - 8:48AM

    @usmanx:

    So says who? Gone are the days when armed terrorists infiltrated in Kashmir valley by western neighbor created death and destruction after relocating them from Afghan Jihad in 1989.

    Kashmir is back to invite millions of tourists and on the path of the progress as is rest of India.

    Things in Kashmir are more or less similar to any other border state on India.

    Pakistan constitution does not mention Kashmir as one of its province.

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  • ashok
    Apr 20, 2012 - 8:54AM

    TTP – Pakistani Taliban fighting Pakistan army

    Haqqani network – Afghanistan Taliban fighting Afghanistan army

    Both armed to the teeth by Pakistan establishment; TTP by raiding NATO containers, AFT by ISI using USA dollars collected by Pakistan army.

    Seeking or collecting help from a sworn-enemy India who is ruled by Kafirs, would be the last thing any Taliban would ever do.

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  • Adil
    Apr 20, 2012 - 9:07AM

    an absolute state of lawlessness…pakistan

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  • Taimoor
    Apr 20, 2012 - 9:27AM

    Haqqani Haqqani Haqqani Haqqan !! :p

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  • Harooon
    Apr 21, 2012 - 12:35PM

    Its obvious TTP is being funded by the enemies of Pakistan.

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  • MyHeartSpeaks
    Apr 21, 2012 - 6:18PM

    Source of this news???? as no other media (National and International) is reporting this incident. No CNN, No BBC, No Aljazeera…….

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  • Vigilant
    Apr 21, 2012 - 8:12PM

    After reading most of comments it just reminded me of Watchmen Movie dialogue

    “Blake understood.
    Humans are savage in nature.

    No matter how much you try
    to dress it up…

    …to disguise it…

    …Blake saw society’s true face.

    Chose to be a parody of it. A joke”

    People are killing each other and we are making fun, enjoying & clapping…..

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  • Barekzai
    Apr 28, 2012 - 7:56PM

    The TTP looks to me the re-birth of a traditional Afghan nationalist movement….they’ve been fighting the Pakistanis directly and now they’re turning their guns on their puppets who’ve been waging the most brutal campaigns against Afghanistan at Pakistan’s behest. These treacherous scum deserve everything that’s coming their way.

    Wallah Chpraedum!
    Zindabad Loy Afghanistan

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  • wali baba
    May 26, 2012 - 4:39PM

    @ashook come on stay within your border, why are you so keen for Pakistan? no one invited u here, better have your own writs in your own country. there is nothing for you in Afghanistan if Indians are so human loving start researching on Muslim mass graves in Kashmir first

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