Unanimous resolution: House supports mandatory teaching of Quran

Published: March 6, 2012

Dr Asma Mamdoot, a Pakistan Muslim League – Functional (PML-F) MPA on a women’s seat, presented a resolution out of turn which was passed unanimously by the house.

LAHORE: A resolution supporting mandatory teaching of the Quran, with translation and comprehension, in all public and private educational institutions was passed, unanimously, on Tuesday by the Punjab Assembly.

The mover of the resolution, Pakistan Muslim League-Functional’s (PML-F) Dr Asma Mamdot, said young people had no knowledge of Quran’s teachings. She said that she planned on moving a bill in the house soon.

During the session, a minority MPA criticised the Punjab government for “stopping” him and other Christians from performing rituals at the grave of the late minister for minorities Shahbaz Bhatti on his death anniversary.

The Tuesday proceedings started at 11:12am, more than an hour after 10 am, the scheduled time. During the day, reserved for private members, two resolutions were passed, another two were rejected, one was disposed of and one was kept pending. Minister for Agriculture Ahmad Ali Aulakh answered questions about his department.

The resolution presented by Mamdot said that the house was of the opinion that the teaching of Quran should be made mandatory in all educational institutions in order to “sensitise” the young generation. It called for making Quran lessons part of the syllabus, starting from grade 1 and continuing till professional degrees. The Punjab government was also asked to allocate funds for teaching of Quran.

Mamdot later told The Express Tribune that madrassas’ interpretation of the Quran was turning children into terrorists. She said she believed that terrorism would be eliminated from the country if Quran was made part of school and college curriculum.

PPP’s Pervaiz Rafique Malik, an MPA from Faisalabad, said on a point of order that he had wanted to hold services at the grave of Shahbaz Bhatti, in Samundri, on March 4. Malik alleged that the Punjab Police had besieged his house, preventing him from holding a service.

Bhatti was buried on March 4, he said, adding that “thousands” had been stopped from paying their tributes. “About 5,000 others who succeeded in reaching the graveyard were harassed by the Police,” he said.

He protested against his house arrest as well as a “breach of his privilege”, demanding an answer from the government.

“Dr Paul Bhatti, late Shahbaz Bhatti’s brother and an adviser to the prime minister, had asked the police that Malik be stopped from holding any service at Shahbaz Bhatti’s grave,” replied Law Minister Rana Sanaullah Khan. The government was not a party in what happened, Sanaullah said, calling it “a private issue”.

Malik, however, was not satisfied with the law ministers’ reply and asked how Paul Bhatti could have issued orders to the police. Sanaullah suggested that he move a privilege motion.

The second resolution that was passed unanimously was moved by PML-N’s Ziaullah Shah. He urged the federal government to find alternative power generation methods in order to ensure that the country’s industries are not destroyed by the persistent gas shortage.

Published in The Express Tribune, March 7th, 2012.

Reader Comments (148)

  • aamir naseer
    Mar 6, 2012 - 7:32PM

    Is this the biggest issue Pakistan was facing these days? why don’t the leaders spend their time solving the problems of loadshedding,high prices,robberies and street crimes and terrorist attacks? what has happened to our priorities?

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  • Mar 6, 2012 - 7:40PM

    Is this a joke or what???
    We were already forced to study Islamiyat in school.. and now Quran?
    C’mon… what’s wrong with you people.. :(

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  • Mar 6, 2012 - 7:43PM

    Good step, but also focus on the real issues of public

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  • shaista jameel
    Mar 6, 2012 - 7:43PM

    What about the teaching of science,evolution? teach the children of how the world works,broaden their minds,they get enough religious indoctrination at home,through the multiple 24/7 mazhabi channels and at school.

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  • Omer
    Mar 6, 2012 - 7:47PM

    Quran needs to be the number 1 priority if we really need to succeed in this world and hereafter…..PERIOD!……..Our creator knows whats best for us and Quran is HIS word…..we don’t wanna end up like Bani Israels

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  • Mj
    Mar 6, 2012 - 7:57PM

    @Omer:
    Are the economically and socially developed countries teaching Quran? How come they are successful without injection of religion into every sphere of life?

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  • SalSal
    Mar 6, 2012 - 7:57PM

    @Omer true bro!
    Better to teach it ourself rather than get these children sent to fake religious people who teach terrorism for money

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  • Acorn Guts
    Mar 6, 2012 - 8:02PM

    Get the wrong translation in the syllabus and you’ll have a whole generation of Pakistanis causing sectarian divides. Get the teachers wrong and you have yourself a whole generation of mislead souls ready to destroy the roots of the country.

    Understanding Quran is what is important but teaching Quran is a thin wire that we’ve decided to tread upon. I personally don’t expect our politicised system to get this one right. Unfortunate as it is.

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  • Muslim
    Mar 6, 2012 - 8:02PM

    I think its a good step. Learning the essence of Quran will definitely help the youth to realize that the terrorism, roberies, street crimes are all the sins in Islam. It will also help them nurture their personalities to focus more towards scientific issues as there is no conflict between science & Islam. Most of the problems in our society from stupid jirgas in rural areas, forced conversions of minorities to Islam, acid on women’s faces, honor killings will be solved when the people will realize that it is strictly against the Islamic teachings…

    Our leaders (both so called religious & the non religious) should learn & understand the Quran too. They might fear Allah then and do good!

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  • Mir
    Mar 6, 2012 - 8:11PM

    Is it mandatory for non muslims learn Quran? or not.

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  • Muslim
    Mar 6, 2012 - 8:14PM

    @Mj:

    They are successful? What is your parameter to measure their success? Is it the money? or the big buildings? or the free sale of sex? or what?

    What is the parameter of success anyway?

    Have you been to any of these so called successful societies? Name any? I have been to most… It looks flashy from the far side… But it gets to you.. you feel disgusted when you come across a place where most of the people live in debts all their lives, the credit card debts, the mortgage, the tremendous load of taxes, the constant pressure of your sons & daughters to get into sexual activities & drugs at high schools & colleges. You earn big bucks you end up paying big bucks… This is the story of the land being considered “the most successful” in the world. What is successful in this?

    Believe it or not, the police department here conducted a study some months ago and you will be mad to find out that in US, Muslim communities have the least rate of crimes, prostitution, illiteracy. Muslims communities have most inclination towards family life. Muslims have been less stressful and Muslims organizations are running many shelter homes and helping to provide free food. Now let me ask you, where did Muslims learn all this from? Its the Quran… That 1400 year old Quran… Mind it!

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  • Muhammad Usama Aziz
    Mar 6, 2012 - 8:18PM

    @to all haters
    If Quran will not be taught in schools, would you please give an alternative of where it will be taught? You guys only knows to criticize any thing which is related to Islam, even if it be a perfectly valid issue!!

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  • Pakistani
    Mar 6, 2012 - 8:23PM

    We should think about the minorities.
    Dont get me wrong, but learning the Holy Quran won’t solve anything, as long as one doesnt learn the translation.
    We should think of our priorities. Pakistan has a lot of bigger problems. I think saving human lives is more important.
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  • Khofnak Molvi
    Mar 6, 2012 - 8:27PM

    Alright, if they teach Quran, whats wrong with it? In madaaris, you say they are producing terrorists (which is not reality)
    At school, if they teach you, you people act like someone put you on a fire.
    Where would you study then? at homes? People dont even know the total rakaa’ts of a Namaz, and we all know how Many read and try to Understand Quran at homes.

    I am sure if a music subject were induced rather than this, all would be appreciating it.

    Criticizing and going against anything in favor of Islam is fashion and Trend on ET, and all over Pakistan now.

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  • Mj
    Mar 6, 2012 - 8:28PM

    @Muhammad Usama Aziz:
    “If Quran will not be taught in schools, would you please give an alternative of where it will be taught?”

    In homes, madrassas, and mosques? Leave schools for imparting education, not indoctrination.

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  • John B
    Mar 6, 2012 - 8:30PM

    Who will teach Quran with comprehension in schools? Obviously, only all the seminary students and they will now have a direct route to be employed in schools as Quran teachers. Now, the “accused terrorist education of madrassas” will become state education policy. Good going.

    @Mir:
    Your question is irrelevant since when do non Muslims have any say in policy making in PAK.

    Imagine the catholic school nuns allowing mullahs to teach the comprehensive Quranic education by Mullahs ( or alike). The picture in my mind makes me smile!

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  • John B
    Mar 6, 2012 - 8:33PM

    @Muhammad Usama Aziz:
    Parents can teach their children about Quranic comprehension and education. If the parents don’t know how to teach Quran, then they should not call themselves as Muslims.

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  • Nadir
    Mar 6, 2012 - 8:34PM

    Teaching the Quran is fine, but who will be the teachers?

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  • shaisahmad
    Mar 6, 2012 - 8:37PM

    Hats off to Punjab Assembly. Finally they’ve seen light. They’ve realized that the solution lies in the Qur’an.

    If this is implemented and the people see light, it will hopefully also be the beginning of the end for fraudulent businesses in the form of Mazars, Pirs, taweez makers etc.

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  • SoAndSo
    Mar 6, 2012 - 8:42PM

    If they’re teaching Quran to every child then they should also make it mandatory for these students to study subjects like ethics and philosophy at the higher level so that some of the brain-washing done to them is reversed.

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  • Mar 6, 2012 - 8:45PM

    What a teacher can do in school when people do not give respect to Quran in streets..
    fill this gap first..

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  • Omer
    Mar 6, 2012 - 8:59PM

    @Mj:

    What is success…..killing innocents muslims in the name of war on terror….Muslims were the true leaders when they had Quran as their quiding light……we like it or not but the only way to success for us muslims is in Quran and true teaching of Sunnah…..we cannot succeed if we just follow our enemies blindly…..TRY and see! but as I said Allah knows whats best for us

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  • jibran
    Mar 6, 2012 - 9:09PM

    Without reading the details, I knew this must be the Punjab assembly. And after reading it, no surprises. These followers of Zia have already brought religion in every sphere of life, and then have gradually replaced it with their version of radical Islam. Now they want to convert the entire next generation with radicals. Well done PML-N.

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  • javed sahibzada
    Mar 6, 2012 - 9:10PM

    who will teach them

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  • FJ
    Mar 6, 2012 - 9:13PM

    It should be optional for non-Muslims and they should be allowed to chose some other course if they want to.

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  • Shakky
    Mar 6, 2012 - 9:21PM

    What interpretations of the Quran will be taught? Who will supervise to ensure that the teacher does not insert extremist interpretations into the teachings? Will children then also be taught the perspectives of other religions? Societies which are heterogenous (in terms of religion or anything else) tend to foster tolerance. Conversely, homogenous cultures are breeding grounds for extremism and intolerance. Pakistan needs a very large influx of non-Muslims to balance out its inbred attitudes towards religion.

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  • DDK
    Mar 6, 2012 - 9:25PM

    Another vocation for Molvis.

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  • Taabi
    Mar 6, 2012 - 9:27PM

    It is offcourse optional for non-Muslims already. There is a subject called “Ikhlaqiat” or Ethics which non-Muslims study. Nobody can force them to study Deenyat/Islamyaat or Quran.

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  • Malik Rashid
    Mar 6, 2012 - 9:29PM

    Dumbing down of citizens is an important business of government in the Muslim world. Religion is commonly used to keep people ignorant and loyal.

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  • Mar 6, 2012 - 9:34PM

    i dont know why people literally hate religion:/

    look guys as far as it goes with respect to the minorities, In our Peshawar education board there used to be (and still is) a subject which is an alternative for islamiat for the minorities.
    the rest of us its mandatory upon us by religion to learn about the words of God, and yeah the west dont follow the Quran is what one gentleman stated, read history sire, the knowledge what we see today is what was left of the Baghdad libraries fires…

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  • Naseer
    Mar 6, 2012 - 9:41PM

    Please leave religion as a personal choice for adults and let the parents take care of the religious education for their kids. This forced teaching will only push the new generation away from Islam. Recommend

  • Samir
    Mar 6, 2012 - 9:50PM

    @muslim. Go to the Scandinavian countries you ignoramus and you’ll see what success is. Free education, free healthcare, a working judiciary that imparts justice to all regardless of their social status and a competant police force that can’t be bribed into acting like criminals. Now compare that to Pakistan! Muslim countries are by far the most vile countries one can live in. And by the way everyone who hates the west so much here, why are you even on a computer??! Go play with muslim inventions.. oh thats right.. THEY HAVEN’T INVENTED ANYTHING IN THE LAST 500 YEARS!

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  • American Desi
    Mar 6, 2012 - 9:54PM

    Quaran is a book of God and encompasses all the good knowledge in the Universe. Making the Quaran study mandatory will benefit everyone. In fact since it contains all the knowledge required for mankind, other subjects should be made optional. In a way it is insulting to offer all other man made subjects in the same platform as Quaran!

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  • Atul Shukla
    Mar 6, 2012 - 9:55PM

    @Elie Khan:
    First time I came to know that all the knowledge we see to day is what was left of the Bagdad libraries fires….Great Insight …Please start a movement to ban all research in science medicine etc because all the knowledge that we need is already in the books left of the Bagdad libraries Fire.

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  • Muslim
    Mar 6, 2012 - 10:03PM

    @Samir:

    Been there dude. One thing you forgot to mention, highest suicide rate & nordic depression about Scandinavian Countries.

    As for the inventions, its funny because the Muslims who actually progressed Science some 1000 years ago have been avid follower of Quran & Sunnah. And there have been many liberals in Muslim communities in the past 500 years who were against the religion to start with.. Like you said nothing in 500 years that Muslims achieved.. Rings the bells?

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  • Straight Fire
    Mar 6, 2012 - 10:04PM

    No matter who teaches it, the message will remain the same …

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  • WhoWasThatMaskedMan
    Mar 6, 2012 - 10:10PM

    @ all those crying at Quran being taught in schools: Quran being taught in school is far better than Quran being taught in a madrissah. Contrary to madrissah where there are no checks, hopefully schools will hire learned people, pay them, and hold them accountable for things that are not acceptable.

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  • Mar 6, 2012 - 10:12PM

    yo yo Mr. Atul

    dont get offended mate, all i meant was the major bunch, and if you get to go to the Britsih Libraries, or the German national library, you may find books what gives you the insight i am talking about:)

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  • OS
    Mar 6, 2012 - 10:33PM

    @ Muslim. Scandinavian countires do not have the highest suicide rates in the world. Sweden is number 30 according to WHO. and Suicide rate is just one standard of living. Data in pakistan is not even recorded so no-one really knows our own rates.

    In terms of actual standard of living Muslim countries come far behind others.

    I wonder what the Quran has to say about teaching the quran in school? Something about freedom to choose or not?

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  • Malik Rashid
    Mar 6, 2012 - 10:44PM

    Dear Muslim,
    You wrote, “the Muslims who actually progressed Science some 1000 years ago have been avid follower of Quran & Sunnah”
    Please name one. Ibn e Sina, Farabi, Ibn e Rushd or Ibn e Khuldoon, who do you regard as ‘avid follower of quran or sunna’?
    Please read them. Reading books enriches and enlightens. The above statement I quoted from your post is plain false. Some of those early Muslim philosophers-scientists were not monists. Instilling fear and superstition is not conducive to knowledge and inquiry.

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  • Moz
    Mar 6, 2012 - 10:51PM

    So the government is going to force us to teach quran, it doesn’t whether we want to teach them or not.

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  • munnabhai
    Mar 6, 2012 - 10:54PM

    @Muslim:

    Mention any great islamic inventions or discoveries that have revolutionsized the world? – nothing great. Most of the so called great islamic inventions had to purpose to transfeer tye kwonpedge from India to Europe. Does it ring any bells,sweetie?

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  • Muhammed Usama Aziz
    Mar 6, 2012 - 11:00PM

    @Mj:
    I think teaching Quran is also part of education. Religious education is as much important as modern education!!

    @John B
    Yes I agree with you but since complete understanding of Quran is not an easy task, so there ought to be an institution where Quran should be taught, be it school or madressah or academy whatever

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  • Muhammed Usama Aziz
    Mar 6, 2012 - 11:05PM

    @munnabhai:
    go and read history!! you would come to know that all the great inventions were done by Muslims.
    Ship was first invented by Hazrat Nooh (A.S.), travelling in air was first used by Hazrat Sulaiman (A.S.) and moreover, Quran is used by scientist form all over the world because the knowledge one get from it are unlimited.

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  • Saif
    Mar 6, 2012 - 11:07PM

    Learning the Quran, its meaning and application is the best education a muslim can get. Everything else comes after. If this initiative had been taken a decade back, we would have a righteously guided and strong willed generation of working men. Imparting the teachings of Quran is the answer to reducing crime and ill-fate (if that makes do as the term) of the countrymen. Besides, understanding the Quran only compliments getting higher education, keeping good ethics, protecting your fellow brothers/sisters from mental or physical trauma and representing the muslim community with the right intentions and right knowledge.

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  • Jaffar Usmani
    Mar 6, 2012 - 11:12PM

    @Muslim:

    Usually success is measured with what is a good life. How many children live on to become adults, how many poor people, death rates of mothers, children, crime rates, murder rates and on and on…

    We are all Muslims. Learned to read the Quran as a child. Many even with translation. Some of us also learned Arabic. If I am to guess, I would say that nearly all literate Muslims have read the Quran and what do we have to show for as a society

    One of the highest murder rates
    One of the highest drug addiction rate
    Some of the highest prostitution rates
    1 in 11 children dying before age 5 years
    20,000 mothers dying every year while giving birth
    Need I go on

    Brother first look inside our own Greeban then throw stones at others

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  • Sahibzada Shabir
    Mar 6, 2012 - 11:16PM

    JazakAllah a very good step, Quran has got solution to all problems we are facing. Now it is the responsibility of Punjab Govt to implement this resolution in true spirit.
    Can other assemblies follow punjab assembly on this resolution, what about National Assembly

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  • Ex-Gujju
    Mar 6, 2012 - 11:18PM

    @Muhammed Usama Aziz:
    What was Noah’s arc?

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  • Freeman
    Mar 6, 2012 - 11:20PM

    @Mj: Socaily and economically developed coutnries are successful because they have applied lots of Rules which Quran teaches that’s why they have been so successful. I.e welfare state, Education, Rule of Law, Human Rights, Equality, Freedom of Religion etc.

    I hope you understood now.

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  • xohaib
    Mar 6, 2012 - 11:37PM

    we must take care of the interests of minorities aswell, what if there are some non-muslims students in the school as well? they must not be forced to have any of the islamic teachings.

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  • gp65
    Mar 6, 2012 - 11:38PM

    @omer, @Muslim

    You are questioning MJ’s definition of success. BEfore doing that check the lines outside the embassies to US, UK, Canada Australia for people wanting to go there. Then check the lines outside Pak embassy in those countries and see how many people want to come to Pakistan. That should tell you what most people consider success. Mind you it is not just money related. It relates to better law and order, more tolerance, greater choice in everything from food to music to entertainment options. SO it is an overall quality of life issue.

    And before people pile on and say people want to emigrate out of India too – ofcourse many people do since poverty is still widespread in India However percentage of people emigrating from Pakistan each year is much higher than India.

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  • smj
    Mar 6, 2012 - 11:55PM

    It means more money to the mullahs with no advantage to the society. How come Quran can’t be taught in Islamiyat class?

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  • Muslim
    Mar 7, 2012 - 12:09AM

    Well.. Go run, let see how far you can get from the Quran and how “successful” you can become!

    We really do want to try everything else before realizing that what Muslims are going through is just a punishment from Allah about our ignorance. We do everything that is prohibited in Islam and then feel proud of it. That is why, everyone of the Muslims need to learn the Quran to understand what Islam is. It is the only solution to all our problems!Recommend

  • former muslim
    Mar 7, 2012 - 12:12AM

    @Muslim:
    You are typical blinded by religion. Islam is a religion of illiterate tribal people.

    @Muhammed Usama Aziz:
    If you are stupid, you don’t have to exibit it. In fact Islam and Science are completely opposite. Islam leads to the Dark Age while Science leads to Renaissance.

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  • Ramanujam
    Mar 7, 2012 - 12:34AM

    @Muhammed Usama Aziz:
    Ship was first invented by Hazrat Nooh (A.S.), travelling in air was first used by Hazrat Sulaiman (A.S.)
    Dude,I had a rolled over the floor laughing reading this…U need to learn the difference between history and mythology….

    The Trojan War and Mahabharata and Ramayan come under mythology…It doesnt have any historical record,just belief of men transferred through generations…Same is the case of Adam,Abraham,Nuh and others….
    You cannot brag about mythological inventions and discoveries as your scientific achievements…

    Even,if thats the case,then story of Noah is taken from Torah and Old Testament and rewritten in Quran….Arabic numerals are taken from india..Unani medicine which was popular during the time of prophet is originated from Greece..thats why they called in Unani (Unan is Greece in ancient world)Recommend

  • Ali Syed
    Mar 7, 2012 - 12:34AM

    This has always been our mistake, be it in sports, social life, family name, religion etc…we always live in the past. Who cares if your father was a big guy or noble family (Syed, Jatt etc), we should lean to live in the present. The same for Muslims, who cares if 1000 years ago we had few smart men…where are we now..and even more why do we compare religion with every thing else, being religious is one thing and being successfully or educated in present terms is another thing. Secondly we always try to make these unnecessary laws and approve that with 100% support, i think is just a self fulfilling thing…I don’t care make Quran studies mandatory in Islamic school, increase the standard of Islamic school to a level were everyone wants to go there but don’t force people into it everywhere. Finally how …how will reading Quran help reduce terrorism..??? All the terrorist we currently have are studying Quran as we speak…

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  • khalid
    Mar 7, 2012 - 12:46AM

    @Pakistani Hindu:
    No non muslim should be forced to read Qur’an as it goes against islamic teaching. But for Muslims solution to all theire problems lies in the holy book, provided if they are sincere in their quest .
    Khalid

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  • khalid
    Mar 7, 2012 - 12:48AM

    @shaista jameel:
    No body is stopping you from learning science as it does not contradict Qur’an. You can see the signs of the Creator, more you read the study the science.

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  • A. Z. Khan
    Mar 7, 2012 - 1:00AM

    Why not let parents teach their kids about religion and the quran? The inept state hasn’t managed to teach basic sciences let alone a subject that will undoubtedly create controversies of secularism and interpretation. Separate the state from religion and it will solve the controversy immediately.

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  • Mawali
    Mar 7, 2012 - 1:05AM

    This is completely unfair to the minorities. I would not blame and I think it’s time now when all minorities including the Shia ought to bail out of this forsaken place. Let the militant Sunni’s implode in good time. India should give special consideration to accommodating Hindu and Christain immigrants.

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  • Parvez
    Mar 7, 2012 - 1:07AM

    As per the article the lady says that at seminaries apart from the Quran all other activities forced children to become terrorists and the idea was to stop this. So it follows that once the Quran is taught in schools all seminaries must be shut down otherwise the objective will not be achieved. This as we know will not happen and we will end up complicating an issue that is already out of hand.

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  • Anonymous
    Mar 7, 2012 - 1:20AM

    quranic studies should be compulsary. However can our failed education system really impart the teachings of quran?

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  • kaalchakra
    Mar 7, 2012 - 1:39AM

    A great first step but it will not have the necessary impact. As my friend Rex strongly argues on another site, ‘learning Islam’ without learning Arabic will never solve society’s problems. Pakistan must also make Arabic compulsory for the first ten years of each child’s life. By then each Pakistani child would have absorbed proper Islamiyat, Islam, and the Quran to be set for a life of success, and peaceful and right living that the Quran has always promoted among Muslims everywhere since millennia.

    So the next goal for Pakistan has to be Arabic for all, taught through references to the glorious Quran and to the lives and achievements of the great men and women in the history of Islam.

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  • elementary
    Mar 7, 2012 - 1:50AM

    @Muslim: You wrote “emphasized textWhat is your parameter to measure their success?”
    criteria of success is that if anyone living in pakistan is offered Green card and chance to settle in these countries with their families, majority will happily accept it.Now try selling pakistani settlement to a US citizen.
    It’s high time we stopped fooling ourselves and came to terms with the reality.

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  • elementary
    Mar 7, 2012 - 2:15AM

    @Muhammed Usama Aziz:
    I would suggest bringing madrassas into mainstream education system ,Quran is already being taught there, they will learn some modern subjects.

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  • Umer
    Mar 7, 2012 - 2:31AM

    @Taabi:

    It is offcourse optional for
    non-Muslims already. There is a
    subject called “Ikhlaqiat” or Ethics
    which non-Muslims study

    If “Ikhlaqiat” is a good replacement for a holy book then why not yourself read “Ikhlaqiat”?

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  • Raj - USA
    Mar 7, 2012 - 2:58AM

    First Chinese Language made compulsory. Now Koran made compulsory. Courts will be very busy handling blasphemy cases. Every child shall be charged with blasphemy. For instance, when the child trips over a book of Koran or gives wrong answers in exam. papers. Unintentional or innocent mis-pronounciation or mis-spelling would be punishable. However, girls who have attained puberty may have benefits of additional three days of holiday every month or can even skip exam. during those days of the month as they cannot touch or read the holy book on those days. Even teachers won’t be sparred. Can also see more killings in trying to decide Shia Vs. Sunni versions of Koran. Pakistan shall soon excel in science and technology as all science and technology is in Koran. Pakistani Graduates would be most preferred in every country. Should everyone be shaking their head? Earlier, I used to think it is the Mullas who are to be blamed. However, I am starting to realize that the law makers and elected politicians are also the same and so many Pakistanis have appreciated this legislation. I feel sorry for the minority Pakistanis, including the level headed and thinking Muslims that they have to face such embarrassing situation every day for no fault of theirs. Funny to watch every stupid resolution passed in the Parliament or Assembly in Pakistan is Unanimous. No one can dare to oppose. They have their families and kids to take care of.
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  • Cynical
    Mar 7, 2012 - 4:19AM

    Honestly, tired of this mindless,insane debate about the benefit of mandatory teaching of Quran.
    Quran is God’s message in his own words, which is the last and final message to mankind, that includes non muslims as well.One can find all his answers to life’s problems in Quran and as such one doesn’t need to read any book other than Quran.

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  • Truthbetold
    Mar 7, 2012 - 4:20AM

    Indians, are you watching this? You should make teaching of Hinduism, Vedas and Geetha compulsory for all Indians- including Christians, Sikhs and Muslims.

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  • James
    Mar 7, 2012 - 4:44AM

    This sounds to me dangerous. Christian children will be required to have a Quran and be near copies of the Quran. It is simply too easy for other children – or parents of other children – to bring charges of blasphemy, claiming that a child scribbled on his or her Quran – or ripped the page – or did something to disrespect it. It is normal for children or parents who may be angry with others to make charges which they later may regret – this happens in all nations and cultures.

    With the current problem of easy blasphemy charges in Pakistan, there should be some way for Christians to make clear that they are not anywhere near a Quran, and that it is thus impossible for them to physically disrespect the Quran.

    If your Pakistani brothers and sisters in the U.S. were required to learn Christianity in schools – there would be many occasions when they would be troubled, or angry, or appear in a way that Christians might find disrespectful. If this were also punishable – sometimes by death – there would be a great problem for Muslims in the U.S.. Please try to find some option for children who aren’t Muslims, to protect them from misunderstandings. I have lived in both the U.S. and Europe and have always striven to protect my Muslim friends from misunderstandings; and I would never have wished that their children would be forced to learn a different religion. However, if they were – I would do my best to make sure that their children were protected.

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  • Rafi Ka Deewana
    Mar 7, 2012 - 5:46AM

    The only religious thing many Indian Hindu kids know comes in the form of Bhajans – Like “Om Jai Jagdish” or “Satyam Shivam Sunderam”. Thanks to Bollywood – at least the kids know something.

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  • Raj - USA
    Mar 7, 2012 - 6:09AM

    Earlier, by an unanimous resolution of the Parliament, Pakistan made teaching Chinese Language mandatory in schools to please the Atheists as it perceived subjugation from India and USA.

    Now, by an unanimous resolution of the Assembly, Punjab Province of Pakistan has made teaching of Quran mandatory in schools to please the Islamists and subjugate its minorities.

    Pakistan may end up loosing with both the Atheists and the Islamists.Recommend

  • funny-indeed
    Mar 7, 2012 - 6:24AM

    To all those who claim that source of all scientific knowledge came from Islamic countries and through faithful followers of Quran, there is just a minor problem. Being the proud guardians and faithful followers of a great religion, how come the holy book has not made all of its followers into a community of the richest and the most powerful on this planet? China officially has no religion and no one is going to call it a weakling. Now, before you shift the blame to crooked politicians, remember they are also the fortunate followers of the same great scientific religion. So, we have to assume they are great and can do no wrong.
    No religion or culture can claim to be the main source of all scientific knowledge – not one. You can brag all you want but it doesn’t change facts nor does it reduce the length of the line of hopefuls in pakistan and other countries waiting to get a student visa or a green card to a country where the majority do not practice Islam.

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  • MilesToGo
    Mar 7, 2012 - 6:33AM

    It’s a welcome step. If we have to get to Allah’s Shariat first we need to learn Quran and as kaalchakra said even before Quran we need to learn Arabic. Also, we should not introduce any other language along with Arabic, so that complete focus could be on Arabic.

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  • kaalchakra
    Mar 7, 2012 - 6:41AM

    One more thing – about a point many others have already begun to raise. It’s important to make sure only true Muslims and Arabs or Arabic scholars are appointed to teach these fundamental subjects for Pakistani society. Appointing Ahmadi teachers of Arabic, for instance, will not yield the same results as appointing Muslim teachers.

    So it is a little complicated area, but nothing that cannot be easily accomplished.

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  • kaalchakra
    Mar 7, 2012 - 6:52AM

    Elementary

    Please don’t under-estimate Pakistan’s appeal. A true-story for you. My cleaning lady’s daughter recently met a Muslim man and as Muslims would say, Praise be to Allah for His blessings, has become a Muslim. She now goes around in complete Arab style abaya. Her mother tells me that the young woman’s dream destination is not Saudi Arabia but Pakistan.

    We ignore Pakistan’s rise and focus on what we believe are its disadvantages because we value different things.

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  • johnny
    Mar 7, 2012 - 8:31AM

    There is a old saying : God disrupts the minds of a person before destroying him.
    Religion is like salt in food, over dose kills the food. Too much of religion will destroy life.
    What is a difference between 50 kgs of sand and a man wighing 50 kgs. Made of same Electron, proton and neutorn?

    Material life and Religious life are both sides of a balance. One without the other will not balance the life.

    You people had gone thorough more than any one else in this world, you deserve peace, love more than any body.

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  • Humanity
    Mar 7, 2012 - 8:57AM

    @Omer wrote “.. we don’t wanna end up like Bani Israels”

    In which way are you already not like Bani Israel?

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  • Ch Allah Daad
    Mar 7, 2012 - 9:03AM

    We send our kids to schools to learn those subjects which we cannot teach them at homes. Less time would be spent on science, maths and other important subjects, if schools are engaged in religious texts. Quran or other religious books should be taught at homes by parents or private tutors and schools should be spared for other subjects.

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  • umair
    Mar 7, 2012 - 9:26AM

    Its a positive step, but minorities should not be forced too. Beside a good doctor, engineer, scientist, professor etc etc teaching of Holy Quran will make us good person.

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  • HS
    Mar 7, 2012 - 9:53AM

    Quran should be taught in school, but it should not be a mandatory subject for non-muslim students.Recommend

  • mfg hUSAAIN
    Mar 7, 2012 - 10:14AM

    “Mamdot later told The Express Tribune that madrassas’ interpretation of the Quran was turning children into terrorists. “

    And your interpretation will somehow reverse that trend? Should’nt there be less religion not more.

    After all the terrorists shout out Gods names before blowing up not Richard Dawkins…

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  • T Khan
    Mar 7, 2012 - 10:40AM

    @Acorn Guts:
    agreed completely…who is going to decide which translation to use??? Teaching Quran and understanding Quran are two different things. The current situation of our religious divide as it is, will make sure that we will be digging another hole of hatred for ourself.Recommend

  • vasan
    Mar 7, 2012 - 10:55AM

    One more step towards elimination or driving out the minorities. After that the never ending sectarian war among Pakistanis will become more intense. Friends, get religion out of politics, govt and school. That is the only way to be tolerant and peaceful. Misinterpretations, out of sync with the current time and situation, current social behaviour and cultural trends may go against the teaching of Quran or any religious texts. That combined with the martial tendencies of hardcore religious fanatics is not good for the society.

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  • zehra
    Mar 7, 2012 - 11:13AM

    oh god, what is happening to pakistan and in particular punjab!!! quran shoudl be taught at home only!! let the child read up the translation when he gets to a certain age, i read mine indepentely when turned 16 without any one tellnig me to do or not do so. who will gurantee the translation? nazra is already compulsory till prinary edcation( 8th standard) why continue it till professional? do we even have enough capable teachers???Recommend

  • Mar 7, 2012 - 12:01PM

    @Pakistani Hindu: Crap – minorities are NOT FORCED TO STUDY ISLAMIAT in Pakistan. I have studies with over a dozen of hindu and christian students – they all studies either ethics or their respective religions. Stop making false arguments. Moreover, what wrong is there in making Quaran mandatory at school level? It saves time and money for the parents who do not have to arrange a Qari sahab in the evening. we are a Muslim nation – why do we feel ashamed by such steps? And yes, this IS OUR BIGGEST problem – they day we start practicing the message of Quran – we will not be facing A LOT of these problems. Stop moaning all of you.

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  • Mar 7, 2012 - 12:05PM

    And why the hue and cry over WHO WILL TEACH? Of course, the qualified will be eligible to teach? Isn’t it common sense? Why measure all madarsa graduates with the same yardstick? Wouldn’t you want specialist teaching the respective courses? Get a life all of you. I studied as a school where music classes were mandatory – i did not like it but I never complained. They are talking about making Quran mandatory – which is just the right thing to do, if you all are ready to open up your minds

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  • Americano
    Mar 7, 2012 - 12:21PM

    When are you going to grow up and realize that faith has no place in legislation? I’m sure the politicians pushing this nonsense are devout men but they should keep such poisnous behavior inside their homes.

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  • AA
    Mar 7, 2012 - 12:28PM

    Very gud Decision. It should be implement. There is no other way to teach all muslim people of Pakistan. There should be one education system which cover all (Quran and Others)

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  • Khan F
    Mar 7, 2012 - 12:30PM

    I have no issues with teaching the Quran in the schools but how effective will it be considering that only a fraction of our people actually go through proper schooling; this will also not have an impact on the un-regulated madrissahs.

    I remember that our schools used to have ‘civics’ as a subject! why did we ever give that up???

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  • Frankly...
    Mar 7, 2012 - 12:47PM

    Very right step: the book of the Creator must be understood before we waste time on the books of the creature!

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  • Parvez
    Mar 7, 2012 - 1:08PM

    @Acorn Guts: You could not have said it any better.

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  • unbeliever
    Mar 7, 2012 - 1:37PM

    @Cynical:
    i do not agree with you. if you feel it’s final world, keep iit to yourself.

    and if it’s the final world, why in islam the sentence for apostacy is death?
    can’t these final words hold onto the muslim.

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  • kanwal
    Mar 7, 2012 - 2:20PM

    Would they teach Bible to christian students too?
    Besides, Who is going to make sure everybody is satisfied with the translation and comprehension? No sectarian rift here?

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  • Zeta
    Mar 7, 2012 - 2:31PM

    @Pakistani Hindu:
    I dont know which school you are talking about. For minorities, Compulsory Islamiyat is replaced with compulsory ETHICS.

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  • A.K.56
    Mar 7, 2012 - 7:18PM

    Well done PML-N . Evolutionist knows the retrogressive evolution as well and how to deal with them .

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  • DevilHunterX
    Mar 7, 2012 - 9:18PM

    Rather have a Diversity & Ethics class instead.

    Also:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IslamicGoldenAge

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  • Uza Syed
    Mar 7, 2012 - 9:58PM

    How about a “Unanimous resolution” and House, united, support for mandatory alleviation of poverty and social justice for all in Pakistan?—–how about it?

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  • Waqas
    Mar 8, 2012 - 12:40AM

    Wow, so great, forcing non-muslims to read the Quran too, and if some muslims are forced to read the bible/gitas how would the islamic world response? jihad?fatwa? terrorism?

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  • Pakistaniat
    Mar 8, 2012 - 12:42AM

    I think Minorities will not be required to learn Quran as per the proposal… so they should not be concerned….

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  • Nobody
    Mar 8, 2012 - 12:54AM

    @kaalchakra:
    “She now goes around in a complete arab style abaya.” Wow, thaalian…. eye roll And that’s an indication of what? No offense to this particular women, as I don’t know her at all, but by your attitude (and based on some past comments of yours I’ve read), it seems you have a very narrow and shallow view of what makes a good Muslim or a good person. Religion starts from the inside out not the other way around. Stop taking everything at face value.

    More to the point, hate to say this, but I’m not so sure how Pakistan will benefit from this resolution. It’s really important to know who is teaching it and what message are they sending to these kids. Religion can be easily misinterpreted and used as a weapon to destroy, as we can plainly see. Not to say that’s what it does for all of us, there are good apples and bad apples. I personally think religion is and should remain personal; leave it up to parents to choose who and how they want their children taught. Cheers!

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  • Truthbetold
    Mar 8, 2012 - 12:54AM

    Wonder how the Muslims will feel if the western countries and other non-Muslim countries, where millions of Muslims live, make the study of Bible, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism etc. compulsory for Muslims! If you wouldn’t like it, how can you impose it on others?

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  • observer
    Mar 8, 2012 - 1:08AM

    @Muhammad Usama Aziz

    and moreover, Quran is used by scientist form all over the world because the knowledge one get from it are unlimited.

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  • Pakistaniat
    Mar 8, 2012 - 1:11AM

    @munnabhai:
    If you want to know about islamic inventions, here are few:

    Surgery – Around the year 1,000, the celebrated doctor Al Zahrawi published a 1,500 page illustrated encyclopedia of surgery that was used in Europe as a medical reference for the next 500 years.
    Coffee
    Now the Western world’s drink du jour, coffee was first brewed in Yemen around the 9th century.
    Flying machine
    Abbas ibn Firnas was the first person to make a real attempt to construct a flying machine and fly,” said Hassani. In the 9th century he designed a winged apparatus, roughly resembling a bird costume.
    University
    In 859 a young princess named Fatima al-Firhi founded the first degree-granting university in Fez, Morocco. Her sister Miriam founded an adjacent mosque and together the complex became the al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University. Still operating almost 1,200 years later, 5. Algebra
    The word algebra comes from the title of a Persian mathematician’s famous 9th century treatise “Kitab al-Jabr Wa l-Mugabala” which translates roughly as “The Book of Reasoning and Balancing.” .
    Optics
    “Many of the most important advances in the study of optics come from the Muslim world,” says Hassani. Around the year 1000 Ibn al-Haitham proved that humans see objects by light reflecting off of them and entering the eye, dismissing Euclid and Ptolemy’s theories that light was emitted from the eye itself.
    Music
    Among many instruments that arrived in Europe through the Middle East are the lute and the rahab, an ancestor of the violin. Modern musical scales are also said to derive from the Arabic alphabet.

    I CAN GO ON FOREVER>>>> BUT I THINK THIS WILL CLEAR YOUR MIND BUT THEN I AM SURE YOU WILL HAVE SOMETHING NEGATIVE TO SAY ABOUT ISLAM BUT THATS HOW YOU GUYS ARE RAISED>>>>

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  • mind control
    Mar 8, 2012 - 1:22AM

    The Sindh Government has made Chinese compulsory in schools.
    http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/04/sindh-to-teach-chinese-language-in-schools-from-2013.html

    Does that mean,

    A. That Sindh will teach the Quran in Chinese. OR

    B. The Sindhis are not Deeni enough.

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  • Pakistaniat
    Mar 8, 2012 - 1:22AM

    @vasan:
    You just had to make a comment… dont you… If you have not read the comments carefully, please do so again…. minorities are NOT required to study Quran, they will study ethics…. I repeat…. Minorities are not required…. so why will this drive minorities out…

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  • Pakistaniat
    Mar 8, 2012 - 1:26AM

    @Pakistani Hindu:
    I dont believe you are pakistani but indian hindu..

    in which school were you FORCED to learn islamiyat.. this is not true and is not allowed in Pakistan… I have had hindu friends in Karachi who used to learn ethics and please stop lying….

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  • KCC
    Mar 8, 2012 - 1:33AM

    @HS:
    Its not yar… its not mandatory for minorities… dont you realize its the indian gang poisoning this board by spreading wrong information

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  • KCC
    Mar 8, 2012 - 2:08AM

    @James:
    For the umptien time…. minorities are never required to study Islam in Pakistan… our indian friends are spreading the fitna on this board….

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  • Zulu
    Mar 8, 2012 - 2:23AM

    Genuine concern….How many “Qaris” will be left unemployed in a nation with loads or ecnomic problem??

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  • Senthilman
    Mar 8, 2012 - 4:02AM

    @ Pakistanis who are making the statement “Minorities will learn ETHICS.” Great way to segregate the minorities at school level. After all minority kids need to learn they are different as early as possible. Why don’t you make a potion which will teach Quran to the babies in mother’s womb or make a chip that directly pass the knowledge to brain.

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  • Ex-Gujju
    Mar 8, 2012 - 4:09AM

    @Pakistaniat: Sir, I think you are mistaken about couple of things:

    Surgery: ” Around the year 1,000, the celebrated doctor Al Zahrawi published a 1,500 page illustrated encyclopedia of surgery that was used in Europe as a medical reference for the next 500 years”.
    That means it was a compilation of existing methods, not new methods. Please check Wikipedia and C-section(Caesarean section).

    Flight: I guess you missed reading about Chinese in 5/6th century, Wikipedia again.

    Optics: Aristotle and ‘intro-mission theory’ in Wikipedia as usual.

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  • zalim singh
    Mar 8, 2012 - 6:47AM

    yay. the world is saved now….

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  • MarkH
    Mar 8, 2012 - 7:29AM

    How about making the teaching of the Quran official but optional? That would make a whole lot more sense. There’s nothing to complain about if it’s a choice. Besides, if you really are a country of dedicated and faithful Muslims, it being optional should have no effect as you’ll all pick the “yes” option, right? Close down the other places, make it optional, look a little bit more sane. You could use the sane boost especially.

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  • MarkH
    Mar 8, 2012 - 7:31AM

    @Pakistaniat:
    As much as I don’t want to post a third since I don’t even like posting two in close proximity, I couldn’t help but feel the need to inform you that you got a real laugh out of me with that invention nonsense. You guys really do just live in some imaginary world.

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  • mind control
    Mar 8, 2012 - 9:51AM

    @Kaalchakra

    A true-story for you. My cleaning lady’s daughter recently met a Muslim man and … has become a Muslim. She now goes around in complete Arab style abaya. Her mother tells me that the young woman’s dream destination is not Saudi Arabia but Pakistan.

    Your ‘true story’ would sound truer if you could tell us

    A. In which country did this happen.

    B. And did this Muslim man come from a ‘Quran Compulsory’ school?

    C. And was the lady aware of this while choosing Pakistan as her ‘dream destination’?http://tribune.com.pk/story/345224/muzaffargarh-revenge-plot-10-women-stripped-one-paraded-naked/

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  • American Desi
    Mar 8, 2012 - 10:12AM

    @Pakistaniat:
    Please don’t do selective cut and paste to obscure the truth. Here is what your original source says about Algebra: The word algebra comes from the title of a Persian mathematician’s famous 9th century treatise “Kitab al-Jabr Wa l-Mugabala” which translates roughly as “The Book of Reasoning and Balancing.” Built on the roots of Greek and Hindu systems, the new algebraic order was a unifying system for rational numbers, irrational numbers and geometrical magnitudes. The same mathematician, Al-Khwarizmi, was also the first to introduce the concept of raising a number to a power. Be magnanimous and give credit where it is due.

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  • Pakistaniat
    Mar 8, 2012 - 10:22AM

    @MarkH:
    I suggest u keep laughing……its good for ur health!!!! And it’s a free board…also .you can put as many posts as u can!!!!!

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  • Sunny
    Mar 8, 2012 - 10:27AM

    @MarkH:
    After reading ur comment, I now realize how little u guysknow about islam…..anyway, laughter is good for ur health…..finally, if u know how to browse the net…..just google Islamic inventions….

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  • Pakistaniat
    Mar 8, 2012 - 10:34AM

    @Ex-Gujju:
    You are completely wrong….. Have a look at the link……http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html

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  • Random
    Mar 8, 2012 - 10:55AM

    The more I read the papers the more I’m glad I have another passport. I guess I’ll have to figure a way how to make my son unlearn everything he learns in school.

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  • DevilHunterX
    Mar 8, 2012 - 11:08AM

    Imagine if non-muslim students score higher than muslim students. Then who will we blame? ISRAEL? INDIA? AMERICA? Facebook?

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  • Dawood
    Mar 8, 2012 - 11:08AM

    Maybe they should make Quran education compulsory for all Muslim MPAs and MNAs instead.

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  • Ansari
    Mar 8, 2012 - 12:18PM

    @ To all liberal extremists
    So that’s the deal now, liberal extremists are not against violent version of Islam, they are actually against Islam, any form of it, even to the basics. And those who love Scandanavia, Please leave pakistan and go to West where Hijaz is ban in the “free environment”, masjid minars are banned in that “free environment”, where you can’t say anything about Elizbeth but you can say whatever you like about Prophet Muhammad SAW. Please leave Pakistan!

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  • Raj - USA
    Mar 8, 2012 - 12:18PM

    @American Desi:
    @Ex-Gujju:
    @Pakistaniat:

    Makes me laugh when someone takes credit for inventions of Arab and Persian Muslims but at the same time disown their own citizen, Dr. Abdus Salam, the only Noble Price Winner of the country, just on the basis of religion.

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  • Mogambo
    Mar 8, 2012 - 12:19PM

    @Sunny:
    Googling islamic inventions and read it does not mean they are true. It is fubby how many musloms hate the West and Jews. You should thank the West and the Jews for inventions like electricity,airplanes, injections,cars and so much more.

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  • Mogambo
    Mar 8, 2012 - 12:27PM

    @Pakistaniat:

    Has pakistan had anything to do with those inventions? – No. Then why so proud?

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  • Pakistaniat
    Mar 8, 2012 - 12:30PM

    @American Desi:
    My dear… You are asking me not to copy and paste elective items and yet you have done exactly the same. You can picked Algebra from the long list so I assume that you acknowledge the others. If you read the threads carefully, I was replying to a point by your indian friend that Islam has not contributed to any inventions… so I provided brief list.. I can add more but then ET may not publish this… Dont think I said that hinduism has not contributed… so no need to start comparing… i dont want to know what hinduism has contributed…. chill out my friend….

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  • Pakistaniat
    Mar 8, 2012 - 12:53PM

    @DevilHunterX:
    We will blame you….

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  • Jin
    Mar 8, 2012 - 12:57PM

    @Senthilman:
    You will never be happy… if Quran is taught, its a problem… if it is not… its a problem with you…. u r confused dear….

    Re: installing the chip… its a good idea… do you do this back home and howz is experience….

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  • Jaan
    Mar 8, 2012 - 1:01PM

    @mind control:
    I dont understand what has the link got to do with the lady becoming a muslim….you should then also then look at the following link http://www.indianexpress.com/news/dalit-woman-stripped-naked-assaulted-over-sons-elopement/898556/

    and yes this is from your own newspaper and not a fictional news

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  • Pakistaniat
    Mar 8, 2012 - 2:44PM

    @Mogambo:
    You guys just dont get it… READ the earlier threads carefully, a question was asked by one of your indian friends on Islam contributing to Inventions and hence my answer… so, please read before write… simple principle or is it too difficult to comprehend….

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  • Pakistaniat
    Mar 8, 2012 - 2:55PM

    @Mogambo:
    Why make a generic statement… what makes you think the information is wrong just because u said so… please do your research first….

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  • Akash
    Mar 8, 2012 - 3:00PM

    Jezz they do take their religion like life and death thing.. all best guys. your first step towards talibanisation. But i hope i am wrong !!

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  • mind control
    Mar 8, 2012 - 3:48PM

    @Jaan

    I dont understand what has the link got to do with the lady becoming a muslim…

    Don’t lose heart dear. Go back to my post again which says,

    C. And was the lady aware of this while choosing Pakistan as her ‘dream destination’

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/345224/muzaffargarh-revenge-plot-10-women-stripped-one-paraded-naked/

    So the link was in relation to the ‘dream destination’.
    Easy to understand, wasn’t it?

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  • Zeta
    Mar 8, 2012 - 4:05PM

    It has been said again and again in the comments that NON MUSLIMS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO STUDY ISLAMIYAT. THEIR SYLLABUS CONTAINS “ETHICS” IN PLACE OF ISLAMIYAT.

    I hate who spread misinformation here like @PakistaniHindu

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  • amlendu
    Mar 8, 2012 - 4:20PM

    @Pakistaniat:
    I would just point about surgery. Sushrut in India wrote a comprehensive book on Surgery some 1700 years back which also included chapters on plastic surgery.

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  • amlendu
    Mar 8, 2012 - 4:24PM

    @Pakistaniat:
    Now about universities. India had a degree granting university back in 600BC (2600 years back) and guess where; in Taxila, in present day Pakistan. In Nalanda we had an university which continued as a major attraction for students from China, Tibet and far east from 4th Century to 13th Century when Bakhtiyar Khilji burnt it. So even Universities are not Muslim invention, although Muslims were first known University destroyers.

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  • amlendu
    Mar 8, 2012 - 4:33PM

    @Pakistaniat:
    Now coming to algebra; the word may be derived from Persian or Arebic but the first known text on algebra was written by Aryabhatta known as Aryabhattiya.

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  • Pakistaniat
    Mar 8, 2012 - 5:35PM

    @mind control:
    so with your logic – anyone going to India should seriously think about it because of this news:

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/dalit-woman-stripped-naked-assaulted-over-sons-elopement/898556/

    What lame reason…. please come up with something logical….

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  • Ex-Gujju
    Mar 8, 2012 - 8:26PM

    @Pakistaniat:
    Sir, I apologize for my comment regarding great wisdom of Muslim scholars. I just read an article which convinced me that there was nothing in this world before inventive Muslims arrived in 7th century. Sorry again for the not realizing the prowess of a Muslim scholar earlier.

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  • elementary
    Mar 8, 2012 - 9:15PM

    If you hold a piece of paper too close to your eyes you can’t read it. Sometimes it is possible to stand too close to something to understand it, to be able to fully comprehend it’s scope the way forward would be to step back a bit.That is if your goal is to understand it as opposed to just get close to it.
    To me switching madrassahs (where Quran is already being taught) into schools
    is the right way forward rather than other way round.

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  • mind control
    Mar 9, 2012 - 12:03AM

    @Pakistaniat

    so with your logic – anyone going to India should seriously think about it because of this news:
    Not ‘ANYONE’. But yes if there is someone converting into a Dalit Woman and declaring India to be a ‘dream destination’, my suggestion would be to have a serious rethink. And so was the case here. Wasn’t it?

    Elementary, once again.Recommend

  • Siddiqui
    Mar 10, 2012 - 5:31PM

    What garbage is this that air travel was first invented by muslims? We are a country of 99.9& IGNORANT people who have no understanding or knowledge of history and science. This bill on teaching Quran will open up a pandoras box of issues expecially “what is the right interpretation of Quran”. Whose version will rule? And how many will be incensed and take up arms against one ruling version or the other.

    It is most diturbing that we are receeding deeper and deeper into Talibanism and fundamentalism. Read dark Ages. We KILL our minorities and on the slightest excuse declare them as kafirs and infidels — what right did Bhutto have to declare the Ahmadis as non muslims??????? He thought that by pleasing the mullahs he could stay in power– it was not to be. He met a befitting end — the gallows.

    The lack of education of the masses is reflected in the members of parlaiment who unfortunately are law makers. How many visionary bills have been passed and incorporated into the Constitution in our 64 year history? I rest my case and pray for our oppressed and manipulated masses. Recommend

  • Ahmed HM
    Mar 15, 2012 - 1:01PM

    Great work Alhamdolillah !

    Teaching the Quran should be a must, as I believe people will get to know more about the fraud of the liberal wing and ET. :)

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  • Ahmed HM
    Mar 15, 2012 - 1:16PM

    @Samir:
    Go visit Turkey and see their Islamic model.
    Do not forget the high suicide rates and the broken family system in Scandinavian countries. Decline comes on everyone at some time, Turkey has gone up. I was in Egypt during their revolution and even there people have started to denounce secular beliefs.

    Why don’t you immigrate to any of the Scandinavian countries and invent something?

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  • Ahsan Riaz
    Mar 30, 2012 - 11:45AM

    Non-Muslims cannot understand the essence of making the teaching of Quran as mandatory because they do not know what is written in it. If they read they definitely say the same.
    We need more decisions like this to eliminate all the issues of Pakistan,as Quran majeed has the solution of all things

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  • Afroz Khan
    Apr 10, 2012 - 7:05PM

    @aamir naseer:
    Since Qur’an contains the commandments of Creator of the world, real aim of every human beings on the earth and our duties and responsbilities towards our Creator, reading Qur’an and understanding each and every bit of it is so essential to get a good, peace loving, developing, society. At the same time, each and everyone can work towards the successful Aakhirah which should be the real aim of all human beings. Allah (SWT) promises rewards galore on meeting his commandments both here in Duniya and Aakhirah. So reading and understanding and implementing what’s in Qur’an in our lives is so important to all the human beings for a better Duniya and Aakhirah.

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