Pakistan committed to engaging with India on Kashmir

India was committed to pursuing a constructive, sustained and result-oriented process of engagement with Pakistan, including on the issue of Balochistan.

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We have seriously put this issue on side since 9/11.

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@ashok sai:
Kashmir is a disputed territory according to UN resolutions. thats why it demands dialog between the two countries. Baluchistan is internal issue of Pakistan. keep urself out of it. or allow Pakistan to step into the independence movements in many states of India.

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@ashok sai: There are no UN resolutions for Balochistan. Balochies following indian agenda are not more than 10%. A large number of pashtuns are also living in Balochistan since centuries and they love Pakistan more than any one in this world. I hope only few ppl think like you in India.

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@ashok sai:

Last time I checked there is a UN resolution regarding Kashmir but none regarding Baluchistan. Good effort but try harder next time.

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@Realist:

You can check many more times, for UN resolution to carried out it requires the Kasmir in pre-partition state, so, go and ask your all weather friend to give back the land you have gifted !!!

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Let’s start discussing when the Pakistani army is going to withdraw from Azad Kashmir so we can hold the plebiscite. Please retrieve the territory ceded to China. Who is Pakistan to cede territory not its own? Balochistan is not an internal issue. Just as Kashmir is not. Just as Bangladesh was not!

Pakistan needs to be careful as to what it wishes for. You might just get it.

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@Sadia:
It is not. It was an independent country which was annexed by force and since then fighting to free itself from the hegemony Recommend

@Dilu:
No, given the interference by Pakistan in Indian affairs, many people think like this.Recommend

@ashok sai:
There is no state crackdown on Balochistan nor there is army of 700,000 “protecting” citizens. Kashmir is muslim majority state and it should have ceded to Pakistan in 47 if your terrorist occupying wouldn’t have jumped in.

Bottomline is Kashmiris don’t want to be part of India any whatsoever conditions. Why dont you do a free and fair plebiscite according to UN resolution

Stop defending your mass murdering forces who has 100,000 people’s blood and countless rapes on its hands
Go read your own Arundhati Roy.

PS: Stop recommending your own comments.

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@Raakbas:
you bharatis never cease to amaze me. Withdraw from Azad Kashmir? Do you see anyone their revolting against the state’s persecution of local people? Do you see any single guy demanding freedom? so cut it.

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@Dilu:
“no UN resolutions for Balochistan” so wasnt for East P…. err …. Bangladesh…

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Lamo! There are 89 sessionist insurgencies in india. Kashmir along with Assam has noting to do with india. 7 sister north eastern states have vowed for freedom from india. Lamo! Indis rock.

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Hu Jintao : In which world are you in. Read Mengal interview whether there is state violence in Baluchistan or not. Whether Kashmir would have ceded to Pakistan or not is not the issue because by Pak’s own action (tribal invasion), Maharaja Harisingh signed the accession of Kashmir to India. It is an open and shut case. As somebody has already said there are many terrorist mobs in India, Disoriented Kashmiris are one of them. We know how to fix it. But not in your way.

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@Hu Jintao , I guess you are dreaming too much to imagine Indian kashmir will be out of Indian control in this century ..

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@ashok sai:
Balochistan is not a disputed terrortiy. India should stay out of Pakistans internal affairs or Pakistan Recommend

@Raja: Rofl: read more about Shimla agreement, it explicitly protects the “status & position” of both the countries regarding any dispute. i.e it protects pakistani position to determine solution of kashmir by UN resolutions. Hence it doesn’t alter the involvement of UN in kashmir.. :)

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@eyeSeye:

and it has by every international measure and continues disintegrate. Could have said sliding into the Arabian Sea but the sea doesn’t wan’t to swallow, Pakistan gives the sea a very bad taste.

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@omar, Can you as a pakistani step into Indian kashmir without a visa from India ? .You cant and still you want to talk about Indian kashmir..Similary Indians will talk about Balochistan even though Indians cant enter balochistan without a visa from pakistan. IF you are advocating hands off approach it should work with the above logic as always..

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@Sadia:
Just few counter arguments

UN has washed its hands off the Kashmir issue ( according to Kofi Annan’s statements). The UN mandate requires that pakistan should remove all its forces in the area of kashmir in its control and this includes the portion of kashmir you ‘gifted’ to the chinese

Just as strongly you feel that this is a UN issue, India too strongly feels that you illegally occupied part of Kashmir in 1948

After one of the countless wars pakistan initiated, pakistan signed a peace agreement with India that it will solve kashmir issue bi-laterally

India probably provides ‘only moral and diplomatic support to the freedom fighters of baluchistan’ ( couldn’t help throwing back one of your pakistan’s official statements since the late 80′s !!)

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Suhail Geelani :
“the condition was india will impose it’s defense, forgien affairs, currency only & when normalcy will return to kashmir, right for self determination will be gives to us”
To be more precise, Lord Mountbatten was the party who accepted and replied to the Instrument of Accession. It clearly states, “the reference will be given to the people of Kashmir for their state’s accession, once the land is cleared of the invaders”
Now u get the point which many commentators including myself have posted all along
which are, get Pak out of Gilgit and Northern areas. get back the land from China and then we can talk about “reference to the people”. Pak in the meantime have changed demography of the POK and formenting trouble in Indian side of Kashmir. These affairs which Pak is not able to roll back, make the “reference” almost impossible. Given the current situation, converting LOC into International border is the best option with visa free regime for kashmiris on both sides. The special status of Kashmir is still kept in Indian constitution under Article 356. India will be willing to settle along these lines. Anything else does not wash anywhere. Nobody in the world will support/accept any decision which does not meet Indian point of view.
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@Vasan: liked your analysis, but the fact is that UN RESOLUTION doesn’t require all pakistani forces to be withdrawn first….. But only tribals need to be withdrawn first, followed by simulatenous withdrawl of both indian and pakistan regular forces. Read UN resolutions yourself. Since there are no tribals in kashmir, & land is cleared of invaders so condition for plebiscite are good.
However it isn’t pakistan which is changing the demography of kashmir, but it is india itself… I’m myself from IoK & i was reading a recently released book of political department professor of kashmir university in which he showed that in IOK the demography of the state has been altered. It is been observed that after every census which india carries out here after 10 years “POPULATION OF MUSLIMS IS SHOWN TO BE DECREASED BY 2% AND POPULATION OF HINDUS TO BE INCREASED BY ALMOST THE SAME MARGIN”. “INDIAN OCCUPIED KASHMIR IS THE ONLY PLACE IN EARTH WHERE MUSLIM POPULATION IS DECREASING”.
Btw it was india which also recently tried to pass slum dwellers bill to alter the demography of kashmir, but it was resisted by we kashmiris.

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@Shah:
You know very well that non-Kashmiris are not allowed to buy land in Kashmir. Thank India for maintaining this special status otherwise Kashmiri people would have become a super minority a long time ago.

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@Realty:
Kashmir belongs to Kashmiri pandits only who are Indians. Muslims in Kashmir are Iranian and Uzbek people, not native kashmiri. They should leave Kashmir ASAP.

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Shah : Variety of reasons for muslim population might have, might have decreased. Many of them might have gone over to training camps/POK. Possibly many died. Many might have migrated to different parts of the world or diff countries. Hindu population might have increased because of Jammu effect which is relatively peaceful. As one commentator put it. other Indians cant settle in Kashmir. So it is impossible to change demography artificially but only by natural causes. And your own stmt that Kashmir is the only place where muslim population has decreased defies logic and speaks volumes about muslims.
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UN resolution or not, you can’t pretend all’s fine in Baluchistan.

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