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No more business as usual between Pakistan and US, says Gilani
Gilani says Pakistan can only work with US on mutual respect, mutual interest.
Says relation with US can only continue on mutual respect and mutual interest.
ISLAMABAD: Following the ‘unprovoked’ attack by NATO forces on Pakistani border checkposts, Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani warned the United States, that their relations had gone south and that ‘business as usual will not be there’ now.
Talking to CNN on Monday, Gilani dodged the question of whether relations with US had gone past a point of return, said that the only scenario in which the two countries could continue their relation was if they worked on the principles of mutual respect and mutual interest, which he was not getting from the Americans at the moment.
“If I cannot protect the sovereignty of my country how can I say it is on mutual respect.”
Asked about a solution to continue the stumbling, yet vital alliance, Gilani said that there needs to be bigger assurance from the US, though he did not specify the nature of that concession from the Americans.
“We need to have something bigger to satisfy my nation,” he said, pointing out that the war could only be won by winning the fast souring hearts and minds of the Pakistani people, “for that I have referred to the leadership of my government, members of the parliamentary committee to advise.”
The Prime Minister also said Pakistan is yet to decide, whether to boycott next month’s Bonn conference.
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Why he needs to mention the HEARTS of pakistani people? Can’t he just say something else like the interests.
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We should boycott Bonn conference, there would be no end game without PAKISTAN if we don’t attend Bonn. We should tax heavily each and every NATO container. Road tax for using our roads. The the routes through through central Asia and or airlift /air bridge is thrice times costlier for USA/Nato.
But now given MFN status to India is going to be used for NATO and USA supplies through India for new route to Afghanistan.
This was planned attack by NATO/USA/Afghanistan on innocent Pakistanis guarding our border, they were not Taliban.
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Yes, no more business as usual. If they want to kill our soldiers, destroy Afghanistan and kill double their troops. Block NATO routes forever and end all cooperation with the Americans. It’s high time we show them just how much they’ll fail without Pakistan’s support. Pakistan is their graveyard.Recommend
http://www.pkaffairs.com/NewsShamsi-Air-base14999
USA is occupying the shamsi airbase and has refused to leave it. They have been flying drones from it Killing Pakistanis. Both our govt and the establishment is responsible for this. Plz stop fooling the people. This base was given to USA by Musharraf.Recommend
“Unprovoked” in quotes? Come on, Tribune, liberalism doesn’t translate to naïveté and blind pro-American sentiments. Let’s get real here. .
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No more diplomacy please.
We have been playing in the hands of US and the time has come to tell to US that if she would not respect Pakistan’s sovereignty, we would be compelled to think otherwise.
Let’s call it a day when Pakistan would not need US any more. If US want to maintain relations on the basis of equality, then it is ok, otherwise Pakistan has the guts to become Venezuela or North Korea who do not give any respect to US.
Now the ball is in US court. Time has come for Uncle Sam to go back home. Pakistani knows very well how to protect their mother land.
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Good Decision, Severe the Ties, US is no more Trustworthy and also its Power is declining, Better go with China, which is the Next SuperPower and u can be the Main Ally of it..Then No Country can dare to attack You…Investorpedia
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How many times do we have to try the Americans who only think about their interest and security? The saying, “give them an inch and they will ask for a mile” well fits for the Americans. As a Pakistani I do not need any further assurances from the Americans. They were given many chances and they didn’t hesitate to spoil them. Boycott is the answer. If you come under fire, you respond with appropriate force since neither Pakistan nor the U.S can afford an all out war. Simple as that. Recommend
The attack was carried out by NATO to make a wedge in the Defences of Pakistani troops and launch terrorists from the gap created, into Pakistan as they had been doing it from Kunar valley. It was a well thought over and coordinated attack by NATO and Afghan national Army in support of terrorists.
Shame fully UN condenmend actions of Syrian government but is keeping mum on this act.
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Do you think they really care???
After giving you billions, for all this crap, they have now realised how hopeless their partners were over last decade !!!
Suggest you revise your budgets as even small Aid is going to be difficult from now on !!!!
So what action has your Govt planned as reply for this mess????
Has US agreed to vacate the Air Base yet????Recommend
Time for USA to act to put a stop to Pakistani dramay-bazi and teach it a lesson.Recommend
This could be a silver lining or could be a storm signal. Recommend
worth reading to understand what our leader may mean:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2011/11/111127baatseybaatral.shtml
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Bonn conference would be a joke without Pakistan! When will they close Shamsi down? What’s the use of this 15 day deadline to close Shamsi?Recommend
I think in one of the talk shows it was mentioned that Pakistan gets some 400+Rs for each container. That shows the level of business Pakistani politicians do with US in the name of Pakistan’s interest or an ally on war or terror.
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Is it not amazing that Prime Ministers gets free time to give interview to CNN or international media – How many interview are being given to local media where tough questions are being asked? It probably shows where the priority is for this so called democratic govt.
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Good Decision, it time to do some thing for Pakistan
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This should bring everyone in line…………………………..Pak is irreplacable, like it or not, seriously!
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The attack on Pakistan is more serious than 9/11 when individuals not army involved. Here a highly sophisticated army with world class info system at their disposal comitted a serious crime.
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US cheated again. Musharaf assured the nation of US support but we all know that it was just between US and Musharaf.
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I hope he means what he is saying.Recommend
trust me.. they will allow the NATO supplies to Afghanistan in less then a week.
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Empty vessels…………………
“His Master’s Voice”
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Time to give a befitting response to US otherwise just withdraw our independence and declare ourselves as 51st state of US!!
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Fascinating — the average Pakistani is well aware that both the govt and the military are notorious for not telling the truth — but when it comes to saying something nasty about American’s suddenly everyone is a true believer. For some reason the history of Pakistani troops unprovoked firing on NATO helicopters near the border isn’t relevant, Galani wants mutual respect — that’s admirable — so how about maintaining some semblance of objectivity on why NATO would attack one of your outpost without provocation.
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“We need to have something bigger to satisfy my nation,”
Bring a bigger “KUSHKOOL” this time we have to balance the blood of our Soldiers.
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@hedgefunder: Just as an FYI – Pakistan’s Military has mentioned explicitly to US that they dont need US-AID – which was confirmed by US through to follow up phone call to General Khyani to which Khyani mentioned “we mean’t what we have said”. Thank you for your anti-Pakistan comments
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I say we take USA to a ride in The Grave Yard Of Empires .. Lets revive the spirit within
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So now it will business as ‘unusual’ (you keep attaching and we will keep condemning)…just wait for few years…we will know how business was…after the wikileaks 2.
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Reading these comments, it is understandable that emotions are quite raw at this stage. But pause for a moment and think about this – According to news on NPR, NATO now gets 40% of their supplies through Pakistan; apparently it was 70% around May ( I don’t know whether these numbers are correct or not, I am quoting what I heard on the radio). 40% is still a sizable supply. Why would NATO risk closing of this supply route by this act? Pakistan have shut down the supply route and so NATO knows about the consequences of unwarranted attacks. Exactly, what would they gain by doing this? Per rules of engagement in any armed conflict in the world, when an army is under attack, they are trained to return fire. What other explanation is there?
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HE is just using these deaths to negotiate some money/arms from US, just like they did in Raymond Davis case. If he was serious about stopping the NATO supply route permanently, he would not say ““We need to have something bigger to satisfy my nation,”
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These people have ‘big hearts’ hence it will be business as usual soon
Jokes apart, . I can understand that 28 soilders died and nothing can compromise it. but Do not jump to conclusion, NATO cannot make this action as mistake. Either it was intentional or there may be some truth in what they are claiming I.e. firing started from check post first. Hence wait for investigation and then strong action. I mean “action” NOT “words of higher Himalayas & deeper than ocean”
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Why he says that “The Heart of Pakistani People”, his heart is not Pakistani and he is not Pakistani too?
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We have disease of Alzheimer’ – a short memory disorder!! Did we forgot Wiki leaks (about PM Gillani), Bob Woodward’s book (about Zardari), OBL case, PNS navel attack, GHQ attack, Raymond Davis case, etc etc
Lets boil the blood so that our military and civil cadre trade with USA for the better DEAL!!!
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If our present government boycotts this Bonn conference, it’ll just show they are cowards who have their strings pulled by the US.. do as Bhutto did (Or have you forgotten your party’s basic ideology).. go to the conference like men and TALK ABOUT PAKISTAN RIGHTS..and our right not to be attacked ILLEGALLY.. this is the voice of your people.. don’t suppress it in front of the world!
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Judging by our present government – Sadly, nothing will improve and things will go back to as they are on US terms… It would not have been a good idea to send in our jets even if they found out we’re under merciless attack by Nato, as it’d just lead to greater problems for Pakistan in the long run.. they did right by holding their jets back and minimizing casualties.. Now the whole world knows that NATO & US are behind these illegal attacks, whereas if Pakistan had sent in jets – as a nation we’d not get any sympathy & US would have even said sorry, even though our basic rights being violated on our soil – firing back would lead to a full fledged war.. and Pakistani masses do not want this – all they want is US to pull out their troops and end their senseless “war on terror” or read as occupation fr “war for disarmament of threatening nations and gaining of their resources”.. We need a new government who can take us out, rather than plunge us deeper into this mess.. and we need to show we still have some dignity and self-respect left, by refraining from taking anymore aid directly or indirectly from US! Is it that so difficult? I beg to differ… chances to get out of this war don’t come like this, but our governments leaders made heavy business investments with the US.. the sooner we boot our current leaders, the sooner we can recover from 10 years of hell they’ve given Pakistan! Enough was enough, long time back!Recommend
I take all my anti-Pakistan words back. From now on, I am pro-Pakistan and love each one of you. I have wasted my time and yours by writing anti-Pakistan stuff. Please forgive me and accept my heartfelt apology. Pakistan zindabad!
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@hedgefunder:
Using my user name does make you very smart ! Just shows how childish you are !!!
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We are infected by intense corruption, disloyalty, having no respect for nobody. We need to resolve these issues first. Our politicians will never let US for the sake of money. God will never help us until we stand first. Recommend
It is at times like these that I miss Benazir Bhutto.Recommend
@hedgefunder: “Using my user name does make you very smart !” Thanks for your kind words.
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pakistan fighting the war which is totally in the interest of Washington(america) and they loss there thousand of soldiers up to the G H Q His been attacked .pakistan also loss 70 Arab dollars of economy his been loosed . and they america still only paid 20 Arab dollar…..i am advising Pakistani gov that dont go in this meanness war which is totally in the interest of america… don’t fight any more wad american anime …..
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american have to know that american army not fighting to dis-try the terrorist but they creating the terrorism in afghanistan and pakistan …now every one have use the common sense that NATO kernels shah ids they pakistani army …..
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@Cautious: It’s not the average Pakistani but western sources too that acknowledge that this attack was a travesty – not just an unfortunate mistake. If the West wants Pakistan to work together with them in bringing peace to the region, they have to work in good faith. I think you Indians forget that Pakistan was the key to defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan and end the Cold War. This is why the world knows that no solution is possible without Pakistan.
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