New nikahnama law makes medical checkup compulsory

So what about the nikah witch are being held toady , so who will provide them new forms, they should give a deadline first and then implement it.Recommend

No wonder adultery is so common now days.Recommend

Clause 5 is a good dicission all provinces should make a rule of medical check.Recommend

Correct decision. However, what if either of the parents of either of the bride and groom has joined the majority? Who will replace him/her for signature?

The condition of medical report is a positive step but not in Pakistan. It would create more opportunities of corruption in this corrupt society. Doctors should be celebrating their good luck.

Will this step be helpful in controlling population as many people, especially men, won’t be able to get married for certain diseases?

Whosoever has got this idea must be awarded a pride of appreciation.Recommend

The requirement for medical checkups pre-marriage is a positive in the interest of full disclosure, so there will be fewer surprises afterwards.

But if the Punjab government is really serious about stemming incidents of birth defects a more effective means, that is in effect in the US, is a ban on cousin marriages.

The requirement that parents of both bride and bridegroom have to bear witness is ridiculous! Would someone please explain to me at exactly what age we consider a person grown up, old enough to let them make their own decisions?Recommend

Endorsing forced marriages and legalising dowries? Wow, as if we already don’t have enough socio-economic and political problems!Recommend

Well the main thing left from the whole thing the space to give women’s the right to divorce male .. because people specially molvies cut that section from the document which is just bad. Like the husband do all the crap and wife can’t defend herself while a wife do something awkward husband go all the way. No equal laws … !Recommend

This thing is totally against the Islam’s teachings.Recommend

nice move by Punjab Government… all these amendments were the requirements of the time but i can say anything about the signatures of parents on Nikah Nama.. I m bit double minded in this amendment…Recommend

i disagree wid clause 3…
its stupid,unislamic and it will only complicate things..Recommend

what does one do if the parents have died? Can you just get anyone to be a guardian? Did they even pause to think about the problems with implementing or verifying such information?Recommend

Completely disagree with clause 3. It is entirely un-Islamic and limits the freedom of adult individuals.

At the same time, I agree with the medical checkup, given the increase in the number of thallesemia patients in the country. Two thallesimia minors getting married should be a crime. It is objecting children to one of the worst diseases out there.

Peace out
SamandarRecommend

Salam to All
the Dowry column is a really shameful, Pakistan Govt. should do action on this issue and make some equall Dowry limits for all according to islamic laws,So nobody could demand extra.
(3-Father and mother of the bride and bridegroom shall sign in the witness to the marriage column.)
the above 2 lines make very bad situation in our pakistani society cause there are several families in which mother or father are not agree for the marriage of their son or daughter n if Govt. make this colum that signature is must then you could understand that if father or mother is not agree to signed the paper the couple is unable to get their marriage certificate.
Medical test is positive thing but it should be free for new couples cause there are several families who cannt afford the fee for it.Recommend

Well if we think open mindedly the reality is that dowry is very common practice. So the additional column of dowry will be beneicial for the bride as many females are treated not well because of the blame of bringing less. Signatures of parents is also good in the sense that no party can blame other for keeping them in dark regarding any issue related to eachother, specially when they blame bride that she had some kind of illness before marriage from which the other party was unaware about and vice versa that leads to break up or tensed relation. I hope there must have any kind of other option for parents signature if they are absent in any case which one should be clear about. I think this step is beneficial for majority, and yes its true there are parents who force their children to do what they want, but i dont think sensible parents can go till extreme and those who are extremists are torturing their children already without any law. So i would say its good step for majority of the nation BUT the big IF is that will it be followed as ideally it should be. Hope it doesnt put mullas and doctors into corruption.Recommend

sorry i mean to say that “sensible parents can not go till extreme”Recommend

eeeeeeee- cousin marriages!!! ~ it leads to having abnormal children anyway, medical check up will just confirm this. What the hell?- are they planning to ban cousin marriages?

That would be a relief.Recommend

there have been various cases where girls are abducted and forced into marriage by signing nikahnama. Our society is unable to support most woman who claim that they were forced into a marriage by their “in-laws”. Requiring parents’ signature is an attempt to stop such kidnappings as the marriage won’t be legal unless the woman’s parents also sign the papers. Of course the downside are the case when the individuals are willing to marry but the parents do not agree in which case the courts can be called upon to allow the marriage without the parents’ consent.

similarly including dowry in the nikahnama is an attempt to safeguard women’s rights after marriage. since dowry is a woman’s property, she can take everything with her if the marriage doesn’t work. Our society is full of men who marry a woman to get their hands on the dowry and then within a few months divorce the woman without returning any of her belongings.

People who are against these two clauses are mainly urbanized and educated individuals who are capable of invoking the not-so-ideal justice system of Pakistan in case anything goes wrong. A typical Pakistani woman is incapable of moving against any mistreatment and thus needs extra protection which is provided by these clauses to some extent.Recommend

“The amendments also make it mandatory
for parents/guardians of both bride
and bridegroom to sign the nikahnama
document as witnesses. Mention of the
bride and bridegroom’s date-of-birth
has also been declared binding.”

So love marriages banned in Punjab ?Recommend

Nikaah was already a difficult job while adultry is made easier and easier… this is just an addition to it..

What kind of Medical Test ? 80% of the population is illitrate and being imposed to VIOLATE these ridiculous rules made by the ELITE of this corrupt society..

Alaas if we cant make haraam dificult why cant we making halal easier.

Was’nt it enough to ensure that bride/bridegroom have to be adults (over 18) to be able to marry each other in the presence of witnesses ? when did any famous islamic society has forced such rules as making parents’s consent compulsory in past ?

God Bless our Beloved Pakistan, AMINRecommend

@Hakeem Luqman..(1) The dowry article is already available in our Muslim Family Laws…do you see any implementation of MFL law??
(2) Any of you see the implementation of Judicial Policy which says the family cases will be resolved by the courts in six months?
(3) Mandatory signatures of parents is a contradictory clause to the Supreme Courts Decisions in which SC allowed the marriages without the consent of the Wali.
(4) Making fake Reports would be a happy job for medical practitioners in exchange of bribe…NO?
(5)Parents Data and signatures has nothing to do with the healthy kids of bride and groom.
(6) Do you really think that it is the safeguard of the women to mention her date of birth?? Dont we know our communal culture? are we not going to shut down the only possible solution for over aged girls in our society???Recommend

In my view, the Punjab Government has not initiated a good move in this regard. The proposed ammendments are not in line with the Islamic Personal Law neither with the fundamental rights of a person. Its rediculous, rubbish, rude and illegal. Challengeable in appropriate court of law.Recommend

Well if we think open mindedly the reality is that dowry is very common practice. So the additional column of dowry will be beneicial for the bride as many females are treated not well because of the blame of bringing less. Signatures of parents is also good in the sense that no party can blame other for keeping them in dark regarding any issue related to eachother, specially when they blame bride that she had some kind of illness before marriage from which the other party was unaware about and vice versa that leads to break up or tensed relation. I hope there must have any kind of other option for parents signature if they are absent in any case which one should be clear about. I think this step is beneficial for majority, and yes its true there are parents who force their children to do what they want, but i dont think sensible parents can go till extreme and those who are extremists are torturing their children already without any law. So i would say its good step for majority of the nation BUT the big IF is that will it be followed as ideally it should be. Hope it doesnt put mullas and doctors into corruption.Recommend

One, a simple blood test is not going to put a ban on cousin marriages. LOL.

That would require a DNA test.

Two, dowry should be condemned – not institutionalized.

Three, Islam gives individuals freedom to get married.Recommend

The new nikkha nama is awe-inspiring and I effusively support it, people who are disparateing clause no. 3 are simply **“POLO”** (mint with the) because they want to get married against their parents will. And getting married against parents will would be against Islam too so people at least have some intelligence and don’t be in opposition to it just for the sake of opposing.
Talibanization or whatever but a very good decision by the government.
ATLEAST THE NEW NIKKHA NAMMARecommend

It should in all over the Pakistan not only in Punjab.Recommend

It should in all over the Pakistan not
only in Punjab.

Why don’t you go to Punjab if you like it so much and leave us alone.Recommend

Punjab Govt. should bring some amendments and rules against crime,unemployment and rise in prices of needs commodity…….What will the poor person do if he is going to get marry with someone…should he spent his earning for his wedding arrangements, future life or Medical Checkup?Is govt bear the expense of medical checkup for every couple? Sometime we should leave some matter to ALLAH…what will they do if they found something wrong medically in anyone?I think Govt should involve and make steps for the betterment of resident Punjab rather than to be an AKKA BUWAA of mohallaRecommend

Whos writing to the Chief Justice? Raise hands?

boths hands raisedRecommend

Bakwaas – This is rubbish. Not acceptable.Recommend

I supported this implement because of medical check-up clause, I know how one suffers from genetic diseases, go out and see yourself then speak up.. but hey.. don’t do that.. be happy! Punjab Govt has withdraws those modifications: http://tribune.com.pk/story/26738/punjab-govt-withdraws-nikah-nama-notification/

Be happy guys! and keep ruining the next generations!Recommend

Oh dear God, just when I thought my beloved country couldnt sink any lower.
Whatever happenend to being full of age?? Isnt there in Pakistan a legally binding age, when a person is adult. And what happens if a bride or bridegroom’s parents are dead.So no more shaadi for orphans??Recommend

some clauses are good,, some are not////Recommend

Clause 5= Prevention of STDs due to the fact that premarital sex is extremely common and no longer confined to sex workers. Thus, clause 5 is actually a good thing.Recommend

So now marriage will be dependent on blood match. I don’t think so that medical reports can help reduce birth problems.Recommend

Although, it is a good changes proposed in the latest Nuptial (Nikahnama), the process of its imposing is questionable. Moreover, the clause related to parental consent is also objectionable and however, it is a good move towards happy and healthy life regarding medical certificate but most of the people will not go to doctor for medical check up and might receive fake medical fitness certificate in especially in the region like Pakistan, where laws are made but not imposed. I appreciate this act of Punjab’s Government and urge to make it more comprehensive.

Think a bit!Recommend

What insanity! So if a girl ends up having an unfortunate medical result, her fiance would dump her and no one else would want to marry her. Having children is not prerequisite to marriage but this law will force even sane Punjabis to make retarded decisions. So much for our faith in Allah and his Will. Atrocious! Good thing we have other provinces so still some hope for ‘em lovebirds :)Recommend

I agree and disagree with lots of comments.
I agree having a medical checkup even in form of simple blood test should be Ok, making it a law it might not be the right thing with a civil liberty and privacy point of view but yes it should now introduced. I am a victim of a marriage myself where my wife was Hep B positive and the parents hid it from me. Fortunately I come to know it before I have contracted it so I had my vaccinations done. But what if I had contracted it? It would be very upsetting for me Psychologically.

About having mandatory signature from both side of parents is simply contradictory to Pakistani and Islamic law so there is no question about it. Its already in place to be able to marry with parents concent when you are at younger age means under 18 but over 16 you can be married with parents signature, but obviously you can’t make it for every age, what if my father want to marry a second wife? at what age will he be considered an “ADULT”? what if my father doesnot agree to my sisters choice of marriage and he refuse to let her marry the man of her choice?

It sounds like an excersize to control woman rights so no ones daughter can marry man with out parents consent. extremaly primitive attitude towards todays digital age. We should be removing the clauses which stops people getting married instead putting more hurdle in it.

Mandatory Signature will only create more people running away from home and seeking refuge in to other cities of Pakistan and getting married if they really really want to get married that will cause another security risk for these new couples.

May be its time for our parents to grow up and start looking at us as a human being with needs then slaves..Recommend

I think we should change our country’s name from Pakistan to Pagalistan. There is no right decision come out of these people..Recommend

@Samandar Khan
Totally agreed about basic blood test for HIV AIDs and other terminal kind of issues. But making it a law is wrong. it should be custom to introduce blood test from both sides but the trouble is that our society is not that educated who understand the meaning of the inactive virus or active virus. they will only make fun of the person who has it.

It is good to see it happening but very non practical to do it and not to mention very unethical in the society of Pakistan, you might never get married if you have a mistaken blood sample or some doctor accidentally did the wrong report.

Medical conditions are private, you can ask if u suspect and if person refuse to do it then you should move on instead having a go with that person.

Rest is in Allah’s hands. he can give you any thing with out you asking for it. My mother passed away from Hep C which she contracted in USA by blood transfusion. Where do i go to complain?? can a compensation replaces my mother ?Recommend

The medical requirement should be essential prior to marriage. People who belong to families who have had history of hyper-tension, diabetes, Thalasemia and whole range of other hereditary should never get married. But God should be the only witness.Recommend

What kind of Medical Test ? 80% of the population is illitrate and being imposed to VIOLATE these ridiculous rules made by the ELITE of this corrupt society..
In rural areas of Punjab , more than 60% medical tests was incorrect due to non availability of Medical facilities.In these tests Laboratries says to Girl or Boy that you dont have ablitiy to become parent.But after marriage 99% these parents become parents successfully.
So what happend if a medical report come like above mention.
or first make highly equiped medical laboratories in each union coucil of Punjab / provide highly qualified staff with equipment on each basic health unit in South Punjab before implement this point.
Punjab Government has not initiated a good move in this regard. The proposed ammendments are not in line with the Islamic Personal Law neither with the fundamental rights of a person. Its rediculous, rubbish, rude and illegal. Challengeable in appropriate court of law.
With signature of Parents…..
I feel by using this point the parents enforeced there children according to there wish.
I agree with statement of Sherry Rehman inwhich she says by “criticized the amendments and said that they would strengthen the organisers of forced marriages.”

Punjab Govt must remove the Medical Test and Signature of parents of both.
because both points are violation of the basic Human rights.

Muhammad Amjad
South Punjab
Rahim YAr KhanRecommend

parents as a witness is good but medical checkup is not walid because normality and abnormality is in the hAnd of ALLAH….so acording to islamic point of view its wrong…..Recommend

Jinnah and Ruttie would never have been able to get married if they had to put up with these laws! What is this? This is not Jinnah’s Pakistan!Recommend