Oslo attacker feared ‘Pakistanisation’ of Europe

Published: July 25, 2011

People crowd around a flower tribute in Oslo to the victims of the bomb explosion. PHOTO: AFP


Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian terrorist who killed more than 90 people in two attacks in Oslo, was mortally terrified of the idea of several ‘mini Pakistans’ appearing all over the map of Europe.

In a 1,600-page manifesto titled ‘2083: A European Declaration of Independence’, Breivik laid out a stark picture of the future of Europe, citing poor human rights in Pakistan as the fate of the continent. Norwegian authorities confirmed on Sunday that the manifesto was written by Breivik.

In his doomsday scenario for Europe, Breivik predicts that several ‘mini-Pakistans’ would  be created all over Europe by 2083, one in each country due to ‘Lebanon-style’ conflicts. “It could be similar to the division of India after World War II, with the creation of one or several Islamic ‘Pakistan’ enclaves,” he says.

While Breivik’s rhetoric against Muslim immigration into Europe is not unusual, he cites many names that might be familiar to Pakistanis, including Allama Muhammad Iqbal and Maulana Abul Ala Maududi, as well as prominent human rights activist Hina Jilani and Dawn columnist Irfan Hussain.

He seems to believe that Iqbal, in particular, was sympathetic to communism and views multiculturalism as a Marxist concept. He quotes Iqbal as saying “Islam equals communism plus Allah.”

Breivik also claims that Pakistan is systematically annihilating all non-Muslim communities. He claimed that Hindu girls are being forced to convert to Islam in Sindh. In this context he even quotes Hina Jilani as saying: “Have you ever heard of an Indian Muslim girl being forced to embrace Hinduism? It’s Muslims winning by intimidation.”

He goes on to describe the situation for Christians in Pakistan as being no better, citing Father Emmanuel Asi of the Theological Institute for Laity in Lahore as saying in 2007 that Pakistani Christians are frequently denied equal rights.

Jamaat-e-Islami founder Abul Ala Maududi is also quoted in the manifesto, though in a manner that would imply that the stated objective of an Islamic state is to kill or subdue all non-Muslims around the world.

Breivik seems to be a fan of Daily Times columnist Razi Azmi, whom he calls “one of the more sensible columnists of Pakistan”. He mentions one of Azmi’s pieces where the columnist asks whether it was possible to imagine a Muslim converting to Christianity or Hinduism or Buddhism in a Muslim country, using it to support his view of Islam as an intolerant religion.

He also cites Dawn’s Irfan Hussain’s column criticising Hizb u-Tahrir’s vision of a caliphate.

His ire against Pakistanis and Muslims seems to have at least partial origin in personal experience. He speaks at length about his childhood best friend, a Pakistani Muslim immigrant to Norway who, despite having lived several years in Europe still appeared to resent Norway and Norwegian society. “Not because he was jealous… but because it represented the exact opposite of Islamic ways,” Breivik conjectures.

The inability of Muslim immigrants to assimilate into European society seems to bother him, which he blames on Muslim parents not allowing their children to adopt European ways. He also asks why Muslim girls are considered ‘off-limits’ to everyone, including Muslim boys, and why Muslim men view ethnic Norwegian women as ‘whores’.

He also seems to believe that the Muslims in Europe who collect government benefits view it as a form of jizya, a medieval Islamic tax charged on non-Muslim minorities.

He rails against multiculturalism, which he blames for making immigration too easy for Muslims in Europe. “When the veil of multiculturalism disappears, it will be Pakistanis who live in London, Turks who live in Berlin, Algerians who live in Paris and Moroccans who live in Amsterdam. And then the show begins,” he says.

That show, he says, is a dramatic demographic shift that he calls the ‘Pakistanisation of Europe’.

Published in The Express Tribune, July 25th,  2011.


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Reader Comments (230)

  • Hamood
    Jul 25, 2011 - 9:05PM

    @Farhad Yousafzai, Pakistan did not kill these 92 people, Pakistan was not responsible for 9/11, Pakistan was not responsible for this act but a right-wing Norwegian christian was. all Indians should stop dragging Pakistan into this.Recommend

  • Muhammad Aslam
    Jul 25, 2011 - 9:14PM

    First, the govt. of norway need to know the facts behind this sorrowful incident, then not only norway but also all the world should play their roll to prevent such incident. The outcome result of this incident will help us to find how the terrorist born bruttlism in their brain and we need to know what are the things who causes of born such material in their minds. I will say one think now it is time for europe and all other world to think about terrorisum seriouly. Un-doubtedly it is america who exploite exteminision and support terrorism to gain his goals in different countires. now it is time to stop using terrorism as a trade, it is a sencitive matter and we all must think about it seriously and has to stop this for the peace of world


  • SomeGuy
    Jul 25, 2011 - 9:34PM

    “The Pakistani liberals will have this massacre on their consciences forever.”

    No they won’t. And why should they? Pakistani liberals are only responsible for pointing out the mistreatment of minorities in their own country.

    If anything, it’s the right-wing terrorist appeasers in Pakistan who are like this guy. Both hate minorities and only want rights for themselves.


  • amer nadeem advocate
    Jul 25, 2011 - 9:48PM

    It is sad that Pakistan is dubbed in any case. Extremists & fundamentalists have no religion or nationality. Why not call it “extremism in European Christians”……..?


  • Nasir Mohammad
    Jul 25, 2011 - 9:55PM

    The plot against Pak keeps getting thicker. ‘several mini Pakistans‘ and ‘Pakistanisation of Europe’ Stop ridiculing Pakistanis!

    Read the statistics at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ImmigrationtoNorway
    Pakistani population is a meager 0.65% from the total 5 million people in Norway.


  • Hafiz
    Jul 25, 2011 - 10:02PM

    To me this guy is really crazy…


  • narayana murthy
    Jul 25, 2011 - 10:14PM

    Hamood says “Pakistan did not kill these 92 people, Pakistan was not responsible for 9/11, Pakistan was not responsible for this act but a right-wing Norwegian christian was. all Indians should stop dragging Pakistan into this.”

    @Hamood…Oslo is not in India. Breivik is not Indian. Norway is not India. Express Tribune is not Indian news paper. All Pakistanis should stop using the word India.


  • RealityCheck
    Jul 25, 2011 - 10:39PM

    Why the words of a psycho or a mass murderer being given so much prominence. This guy is toxic now and what ever he said or whom ever uses his name is bound to end up in deep trouble. After 9-11 the European far right gained huge momentum, Islamophobia was on the rise. This guy sure got them in a tight spot, and exposed their true intentions. BUT there will be those who will try to justify his writings.

    Now the brownest of the browns, aka Indians actually loving hitler. That is ironic, if hitler would have gotten his way there wont be any Indian alive. Or may be some how Indians believe their Aryans and those of Hitler were the same, or his love for swastika some how link them. Recommend

  • Jul 25, 2011 - 11:17PM

    To,Goggi,Sajid barcha,I commend you for your free thinking,just one more additional information regarding the gypsies,they are supposed have come from Rajasthan,Sind and Punjab region,there is no consesus by researces as they have in Eastern Europe for now atleast 500 to 6oo years. ,I thought you may be interested.Never mind,your first obsevation was very profound but the next one you showed your bias.You seem to be person who can advance in true “enlightenment’You read and observe, writen words only window into the world of people,in absence personnel observation,Mr Sajid Barcha you are also on something.I study and read as many different point of view as possible and our thinking goes changes from time to time.I’m not same thinkers I was 45 years ago,change is ever changing,the universe in the state of flux.I do not know when “Islam acquired authoritarianism ‘I guess the Prophet was such a personility,there are different opinion on this(islamic scholar and secular scholar have differing opinion,I shall not say where I find myself as I’m still not sure,but you used the word’authoritarian,it sounded to me you are on to something,if you notice,the majid and mullahas often sound authoritarian in most pronouncement,and the ‘Faithful” follow.,which is no no in liberal Europe,this the difficulty with Muslim people who live in the west and one of the reason for”ghotto’ condition,in USa too most muslims live in Brooklyn,(certain bouroghs),Paterson Nj,and Dearborn MI,they feel at home among their lot,You will notice most Indians do not want to with fellow Indians,I myself avoid if I can.The reason USa, it is because we are upper middle class professionals,may be.I’m pretty alarmed ,that it is going to get worse for Asians ,particularly for followers of Islam,what is not good,they make it worse by caps,beards and hijab etc,it has negative conotation,especially in USa.Now this document exist and for good or bad will be explored,as it is mind boggling how can you squere Islamicphobia with killing native Nowergians,does not add up,so the law enforcement will look this very carefully,just thank god he was not some muslim Pakistani nut,it would have done immense damage to many already suffering hard working pakistani.Small mercy,indeed.This time some one really watching over you.!


  • narayana murthy
    Jul 25, 2011 - 11:29PM

    Oh my god! For all those who say that Indians love Hitler.

    That is absolutely unbelievable balderdash. While a majority of Indians (I’m talking about 99.999% here), don’t give a hoot about India Gandhi or Hitler or Musharraf or Hillary Clinton or Bill Gates…the small percentage of Indians, which would still make a huge number of people (thanks to India’s population), buying Hitler’s biography, do so.

    I don’t like Hitler just like i don’t like Bin Laden. However, if a biography of Osama comes out tomorrow, I wouldn’t mind queuing up in front of Swapna book stall to get a copy of it. It does not mean, i love Bin Laden and in fact, on the contrary, nobody rejoiced his death more than I did.

    So, Indians don’t love or like or even empathize with Hitler. However, Indians wouldn’t mind reading “mien Kemph” just as Indians wouldn’t mind reading Bhagavad Gita or even Qoran.Recommend

  • sanity
    Jul 26, 2011 - 12:41AM

    yeah, crime should go unpunished. “An eye for an eye” is wrong. Totally wrong….Liberal extremism at its best.


  • Sehr
    Jul 26, 2011 - 12:57AM

    Anders Behring Breivik: ‘I am VERY afraid of what Pakistanis might do to my beloved fellow Norwegians. So I am going to kill my beloved Norewgians.’


  • Sajida
    Jul 26, 2011 - 1:30AM

    ‘He should have taken his own life too’: Father of Anders Breivik says he wishes his son had committed suicide
    Norway attacks: Breivik was my friend on Facebook. I’ve seen what fed his hatred
    I was once a member of Sweden’s nationalist party, but vile online propaganda drove me away
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    I share the fear and pain of my country – but in Norway this kind of insane act has always had its origins in the far righRecommend

  • Ajmal
    Jul 26, 2011 - 1:47AM

    It pains to see pakistan’s name dragged soo far place as norway…
    is my country so bad that practically every person in world seems to curse it? please dont curse my country. please.


  • goggi
    Jul 26, 2011 - 1:59AM

    Thank you for your constructive critic although I have no idea where I am biased. Gypsy is an abusive word in Germany, these people are referred as Sintis or Romas. According to the linguist these group of people speak a language which is very related to Punjabi. Either they are from Punjab or madras does not change my subject, the fact is that these people till today are the untouchables of these European societies and belong to a taboo topic. I hope you enjoy their music……..

  • Jul 26, 2011 - 2:21AM


    Well, in this case there is an India connection.

    “It is essential that the European and Indian resistance movements learn from each other and cooperate as much as possible. Our goals are more or less identical,” Breivick wrote in his manifesto. The Christian Science Monitor has reported that “in the case of India, there is significant overlap between Breivik’s rhetoric and strains of Hindu nationalism – or Hindutva – on the question of coexistence with Muslims. Human rights monitors have long decried such rhetoric in India for creating a milieu for communal violence, and the Norway incidents are prompting calls here to confront the issue.”

  • Y Khan
    Jul 26, 2011 - 7:39AM

    Indians should look at their treatment of muslim minorities before they rant their typical hateful anti islam and anti Pakistani rants here. We have not forgotten Gujrat where 2000 innocent muslims were burned ALIVE!

    This criminal murderer in Norway seems to have been learning from the BJP and the RSS.


  • Intelektual
    Jul 26, 2011 - 7:57AM

    @Sajid I Barcha:
    Genuine Fears?? No statistical nor any other notion can prove this maniac’s concerns as genuine or having something to deal with the reality ! What you need to realize is that he is a mentally disturbed Extremist what he just needed was anything to bank his inhumane actions on no matter how insignificant or irrational. Pakistanis are a tortured people, with no significant power nor presence in the west (apart from the western media there we are popular indeed).
    The true problem with him is not Pakistani immigrants attitudes but his childhood traumas a broken home and lack of stable human relationships and affection.


  • Amjad
    Jul 26, 2011 - 8:22AM

    what the hell this guys is talking about, He is killing his own people because of the fear of Pakistanisation of the Europe………………. Watch this, western media will make him Hero Instead of calling him Terrorist/mass murderer, just because he talked against muslims or Pakistanis……….Just a question, was he raised by both Norwegian Parents or his father was a Pakistani or Muslims who forced his Norwegian mother to become muslim


  • Jul 26, 2011 - 8:26AM

    This was another government trained and funded false flag event, used as an excuse to demonize people, and liberty! Now that the establishment’s evil Muslim terrorist campaign has run it’s course, it’s time for plan b…the new white/christian terrorist campaign, so that now anyone can be a terrorist, so now we have to give up ALL our liberties in the name of a fake threat! This is classical Illuminati problem-reaction-solution tactics!


  • narayana murthy
    Jul 26, 2011 - 8:27AM

    @Riaz haq

    I think a question you need to ask yourself is, why is that only Muslims have a problem in India, while all other minorities do so well. In fact Christians, Zorostrians have done better than Hindus, socially, culturally and economically.

    Why is that any country with a sizable population of Muslims, pose a problem to the integrity of the country? The list is – Pakistan (you pose a threat to your own integrity), India, Afghanistan, Iraq, Bahrain, Lebanon, UK, USA, China, Thailand, Phillippines, Cyprus, Germany, France, Sudan (thank god for the division)


  • ahsan
    Jul 26, 2011 - 9:15AM

    Why shouldn’t we call him a Christian Extremist?


  • Ali Kazmi
    Jul 26, 2011 - 9:24AM

    = wireless Terrorisim
    Server Router = Pakistan<>
    Host = Anders Behring Breivik


  • kaleem
    Jul 26, 2011 - 9:50AM

    multiculturalism is the beauty of Europe. it shone through their liberal artifacts and open society. Beveriek thesis are highly questionable since European Muslims proved to be equally great citizens.


  • Shah
    Jul 26, 2011 - 9:57AM

    ha ha, What a joke….. have you read this 1500 page document?
    don’t Drag Pakistan in everything….


  • Awais
    Jul 26, 2011 - 10:17AM

    Anders Behring Breivik is a lunatic and attempted to malign the image of Pakistan and its people. The culprit not only humiliates his own nation but infact the whole mankind. It is high time for European countries to set an example before the whole world by giving him examplory punishment and abridge the gap between Musilms and western community. Moreover, they should declare his barbarian act an act of terrorism that depicts their neutrality towards extremism.


  • Vicram Singh
    Jul 26, 2011 - 10:22AM

    @Riaz Haq: ” … It is essential that the European and Indian resistance movements learn from each other and cooperate as much as possible. …

    I think a lot of people are beginning to realize that there was a cultural genocide perpetrated on the Hindu civilization by Muslims.


  • Saajid Khan
    Jul 26, 2011 - 10:38AM

    @Riaz Haq: I have been reading your postings dude. You are saying nothing from fact but just from pure hatred. It is the attitude of people like you that our innocent people are despised all over the world. If some on reads your posting they start believing that whole of Pakistan is of the utter extremist and rubbish view as yours. The article is about the Norweigien guy and you spared no chance to blame Hindus. Its sick. People die anywhere in world and you would somehow find reason to blame hindu. Now this proves how much backward we are that we have no shame in publishing utter lies and severe chronic paranoia just to prove our point. I feel disgusted to have a fellow countrymen like you.


  • Mehmood
    Jul 26, 2011 - 10:42AM

    AH!….new low for us Pakistanis. How we hit the bottom yet?


  • haris
    Jul 26, 2011 - 1:44PM

    don’t expect anything from other Muslim-states like Kuwait, Iran, UAE or Saudia Arabia. Our country and our values are endangered not because of Americans, Britishers or Indians but it is our so-called Muslims brothers who are most vicious to us. I realized this when I came to Germany.


  • haris
    Jul 26, 2011 - 1:47PM

    @narayana murthy:
    If Tribune is not an Indian newspaper then what Indians are doing here? don’t they have decent publications in their own country?


  • shahzad ahmed
    Jul 26, 2011 - 1:56PM

    Stop putting sick minded people’s theories on Pakistan. Now that he’s not pakistani still pakistan is dragged in this sick act of this pathetic insane human


  • narayana murthy
    Jul 26, 2011 - 2:01PM

    @Y Khan, who says “Indians should look at their treatment of muslim minorities before they rant their typical hateful anti islam and anti Pakistani rants here. We have not forgotten Gujrat where 2000 innocent muslims were burned ALIVE!”

    Wow! Did you even know that the entire Gujarath massacre happened as a result of Muslims burning down a train containing Kar Sevaks, killing about 60 of them?

    Of course you wouldn’t know. Throughout history, Muslims have persecuted Hindus and even christians in India (case in point : Tipu Sultan, who killed about 90,000 Christians from kerala). Most violence against Muslims are instigated by Muslims.

    Now, imagine a group of Hindus burning a train containing mainly Muslim pilgrims, let’s say, in Karachi. I can tell you the result now, the population of Hindus in Pakistan would be reduced to 0. Absolutely ZERO.


  • narayana murthy
    Jul 26, 2011 - 2:10PM

    @Haris…it’s called world wide web. It’s accessible by everyone, unless it’s regulated. Tribune is not.

    As long as someone is on the net, I have all the right to be check him out. Even if you are on the net, tomorrow, I can do whatever I want with virtual you.

    Also, I have been repeating this to hundreds of Pakistanis. I will stop visiting pakistani news papers, the day, Pakistan stops sending terrorists to kill innocent Indians.

    To answer your second question, NO, we don’t have a decent INDIA based, PAKISTANI publication.


  • raf
    Jul 26, 2011 - 2:11PM

    this news story isn’t mentioned anywhere in the international media.
    All the indians were quiet since the attacks and once a story mentioning the name of Pakistan is surfaced, they immediately swarmed the story with the comments full of hatred for pakistan. It seems they don’t have a life of their own and are completely obsessed with the pakistan


  • Arindom
    Jul 26, 2011 - 2:19PM

    @Riaz Haq:

    Sometimes Pakistanis call Indians lovers of Jews. Other times admirer of Hitler! LOL ! Please have some consistency at least in your conspiracy theories


  • saint
    Jul 26, 2011 - 3:23PM

    look at who is talking about integration .. ever went to any little idia or south hall in london ?
    If this is called integration whole world is integrated then :-)


  • [email protected]
    Jul 26, 2011 - 3:52PM


    Pakistan no need to create a bomb and drop it on some country
    (especially hindus in india..they dont think muslim are there in india except Sharurukh khan and Kahan Kandana of bollywood)…its manufacturing units of terrorism and its inspiration is enough to destroy the world…lets hope it change it mindsets and close it jihadi facories or madarass.it needs to neutralize their education curriculum if not secularize them.to manufacture at least human beings.


  • P N Eswaran
    Jul 26, 2011 - 4:20PM

    It will be the most well read and well quoted. All Islamic terrorism will be seen in the light of his writing.


  • J Khan
    Jul 26, 2011 - 4:28PM

    Well this somehow a truth. If you see influx of Pakistanis in UK, Spain Italy, Greece and France, its a larger number and I’m sorry to say Pakistani’s will remain Pakistani’s, they don’t care about cleanliness, try to break every single law & are supreme racist.

    I’m sorry if this offends you but this is true and admit it (this I guess implies to 70% of Pakistani’s).


  • Ahmad
    Jul 26, 2011 - 4:36PM

    yes it is true.. As a pakistani, i feel ashamed. In Canada and In Norway, may pakistani couples give birth to more kids (5 or more) just to get the Child Tax Benefit. this way, they are wasting other peoples tax money. And moreover they will send 3 of their five kids to Pakistan to learn Islam. So they are claiming 5 kids benefits but only 2 or 1 live here.

    this is our culture.


  • P N Eswaran
    Jul 26, 2011 - 4:40PM

    @Nasir Mohammad:
    “I had attended a Friday khutba at a mosque in Oslo and had been shocked by the level of political vitriol which the Urdu-speaking cleric at the mosque was hurling at the West. Several threats had been made against Norway by Muslim fanatics”-Saleem H Ali (http://tribune.com.pk/story/217047/sad-smugness-after-oslo/)
    That explains all.


  • antony
    Jul 26, 2011 - 4:42PM

    2000 muslims burnt ? where did you get that infor ? Zahid hamid ? ..Get us a proof..There were massive riots and many muslims were killed I agree. Atrocious I agree and every sane indian (christian or hindu) will agree and feel its wrong..But on the other hand unneccessary provocation of burning a train full of hindu priests unleashed the hindu mobs in gujarat ..Riots always are like pressure cooker letting off steam .Generally its perceived that one strong warning is required to Muslim miscreants so that they dare not do such train burning incidents and that backlash is atrocious but necessary as per general right wing indians ( it includes christians as well) . But Muslims miscreants started attacking the general public through bombs in trains ,stations,bazaars ..As a christian I would feel If you respect Hindu tradition and their beliefs they are the most tolerant society you can find. Some Christian sects do abuse Hindus openly by calling them evil as Idol worshippers not really understanding the deeper meaning and spiritualism behind it. I challenge them whenever I can .Dont immediately compare with US or UK where they fought ,killed and became civilised after many centuries and now very tolerant and are first world democracies. India is fast moving and basically has strong fundamentals of tolerance and secularism in built as a nation. Militaries dont tie up with Religious forces and give AK47s etc .Oh dont quote purohit Colonel .He is in jail and banished from civil life.. My cousin brothers are Sukhoi MK30 fighters and know army is full of people of all religions(Sikhs,Hindus,Christians etc) who are patriotic to India .Why I am writing all these is just so that your opinion does not fuel another suicide bomber our way .


  • asma riaz@london
    Jul 26, 2011 - 7:35PM

    Interestingly, the contentment and the smile caught by the camera on the terrorist’s face while sitting in the police van dangerously and closely resembled the smile and contentment on the face of the Pakistani terrorist Qadri who killed Salman Taseer.


  • Dr. Salim
    Jul 26, 2011 - 8:39PM

    @J Khan: Agree with you brother, but I know our fellow men back in Pakistan would not agree.


  • Pakistani
    Jul 26, 2011 - 11:15PM

    Pakistani are suffering the American war.America only want to capture world minrals resources. and every blame fall on Pakistan.We r Muslims, not terrorist.we r peaceful people.We proud to be PAKISTANI.


  • hasan
    Jul 26, 2011 - 11:19PM

    Indians r more than Pakistani like you


  • Observer
    Jul 26, 2011 - 11:27PM

    When the news came out that a native Norwegian was the killer, I thought, ha, this is the first time that Pakistanis or Muslims were not involved in a global terror act. Now, after reading about his manifesto here on this article, it seems that what has been happening in Pakistan is indirectly “involved” in this dastardly act since this deranged man’s thoughts seems to have been driven by global Islamist terror and in particular Pakistan’s radicalism.

    We have been witnessing global Islamist terror for the past three decades. The only surprise is that there hasn’t been more anti-Islamist right-wing radical reaction until now. It was bound to happen. We will see more and more anti-Muslim reaction in Western countries until the Muslim countries stop supporting Islamist radicals and preaching bigotry against non-Muslims and get control of the radical Islamists among their midst.


  • Jul 26, 2011 - 11:41PM

    @Dinesh Chetti:

    You are personally guilty of what you are accusing Pakistanis of: Diverting attention from the fact that Breivik drew inspiration of the Hindu Nationalists’ rhetoric in India.

    “It is essential that the European and Indian resistance movements learn from each other and cooperate as much as possible. Our goals are more or less identical,” Breivick wrote in his manifesto. The Christian Science Monitor has reported that “in the case of India, there is significant overlap between Breivik’s rhetoric and strains of Hindu nationalism – or Hindutva – on the question of coexistence with Muslims. Human rights monitors have long decried such rhetoric in India for creating a milieu for communal violence, and the Norway incidents are prompting calls here to confront the issue.”

    Hindu nationalists in India have a long history of admiration for Adolf Hitler, and his “Final Solution”. In his book “We” (1939), Madhav Sadashiv Golwalkar, the leader of the Hindu Nationalist RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh) wrote, “To keep up the purity of the Race and its culture, Germany shocked the world by her purging the country of the Semitic races — the Jews. Race pride at its highest has been manifested here. Germany has also shown how well-nigh impossible it is for races and cultures, having differences going to the root, to be assimilated into one united whole, a good lesson for us in Hindusthan to learn and profit by.” (We, p.35/p.43)



  • Sajida
    Jul 26, 2011 - 11:44PM

    “Tolerance was fine when Europe was mostly white and Christian. But then Europe brought in guest workers and accepted former colonial subjects and provided safe havens for refugees. And the right wing suddenly didn’t like how different Europe began to look and how uppity the newcomers were getting. They blamed the immigrants, to be sure, but also the gatekeepers who let them in.”
    Norway: The Enemy Within


  • Jul 26, 2011 - 11:47PM


    It’s ironic but true that Hindu Nationalists draw inspiration from both Nazis and Israel in their anti-Muslim rhetoric and actions.

    The Hindu Nationalist attitudes reflect a combination of deep animosity toward minorities as demonstrated by Hitler, and a desire to emulate Israelis in dealing with Muslims in and around India. No matter how one looks at it, these growing trends in India constitute a grave threat to peace in South Asia and the Middle East regions.



  • Vicram Singh
    Jul 27, 2011 - 2:17AM

    @Riaz Haq: :: You sir, are intellectually dishonest. I suggest you stop looking at the world from the point of Muslim victim-hood; instead you should contemplate on instances where Muslims have been perpetrators of grievous crimes.

    The articles on your blog reflect the thought patterns of a people who have been out-witted and out-maneuvered by others (Hindus, Jews, take your pick) consistently.


  • Lahore Super Dhol Mix
    Jul 27, 2011 - 2:29AM

    I believe Anders Norwegian Terrorist Guy had a BREAK UP with a PAKISTANI GIRL.
    And couldn’t overcome that loss, neither could he find someone as super as a Pakistani GIRL.
    His Hormonal influx led to creation of a Eureka Factor in his squeezed and compromised “intellect”.
    This I think explains all the mystery of 1500 page rant and reaction of his secret breakup :)Recommend

  • Observer
    Jul 27, 2011 - 2:34AM

    @Riaz Haq:

    While there may be some parallels, it is erroneous to draw complete equivalence between Western anti-minority right-wing movement and Hindu nationalism. I am not an adherent of any right or left wings, western or Indian, but I would point out that Hindu nationalists want to emphasize ancient Indic culture as the identity of India as opposed to Arab, Persian or Afghan cultures. Here, the term cultural identity does not reject practice of any particular religion.

    Lately, more and more of, even, Pakistani intellectuals are coming around to the view that Pakistan’s national identity and culture should be taken back to its Indian/Indic roots and salvaged from sixty years of Arabization of Pakistani society. It seems to me that that is exactly the same as the main axiom of Hindu right-wing ideology. As long as the minorities have rights to practice their religion, separating religion from cultural roots is not a wrong notion. After all, Indian or Pakistani culture did not start in 700 AD with the invasion of Bin Qasim. It is sad that Pakistanis and many South Asian Muslims have been brainwashed to reject their 5000 year old history and adapt the backward desert culture of the invaders.


  • Observer
    Jul 27, 2011 - 5:06AM

    @anand singh:
    Purpose was to caution everyone by making an impact. Politicians get elected by people and it’s time people changed their thinking and forced policies.


  • Observer
    Jul 27, 2011 - 5:41AM

    @amer nadeem advocate:
    Why? Is it a phenomenon? Do you see atttitudes among people supporting such behavior? The problem is with Pakistanis settling in countries of whose culture and people they have no respect of.


  • tahir
    Jul 27, 2011 - 10:01AM

    @ashok sai:
    Ashok; it is unfortunate that you see it through your short sighted glasses!


  • farhan
    Jul 27, 2011 - 11:08AM

    I dont think killing so many innocent people can condone his fear of multiculturism.


  • pardesi
    Jul 27, 2011 - 2:06PM

    @ Riaz

    you remind me of GW Bush, who could never see the reality written on the wall. Just writing useless comments linking hunduism and terror shows your shallowness in character. Hinduism is a peaceful religion. There never was instances of Hindus organise killings based on religious grounds, unlike Christian and Islamic histories shows. I am sure, we will not do it future too. Hinduism does not even encourage conversions. We like to be left alone in peace.


  • bunty
    Jul 27, 2011 - 3:06PM

    if by pakistanisation he means hours of load shedding, i would be afraid too


  • Saad Siddiqui
    Jul 27, 2011 - 3:32PM

    I have a feeling that in a few days a report will be published that his childhood Pakistani friend provoked him to do so … ! Huh


  • Ali Haider
    Jul 27, 2011 - 3:38PM

    Well hold on a minute, people who are drawing links between this particular terrorists insane actions and Pakistan/ Pakistani’s should be ashamed of themselves. If anything, Pakistan deserves more sympathy/ support now than ever before.

    Pakistan isn’t linked to ‘all forms of global terrorism’ as some foolish people here have pointed out, Pakistan has been the biggest victim of it – and anybody with any knowledge of global affairs will confirm that. So let’s not jump on Pakistan’s back for this or any other ludicrous example of terrorism. Let’s pat them on their backs for fighting it head on, at the frontlines.Recommend

  • abc
    Jul 27, 2011 - 4:37PM

    this insane man and some Muslim writers who just want to be called a sort of secular minded should read the history first. it wasn’t the Muslims who flushed out or converted the christian by force once they captured Spain but rather the Christians did so once they occupied it later and similarly what the Hindus did to Muslims and Christians even in India so lets not get into this theory of extremism we must have a balanced approach towards each and every problem whether that is religious or social, good and bad people are every where and in every nation and religion that doesn’t mean that the religion or the nation becomes good or bad. before calling Pakistan or Pakistanis terrorists i wanna ask those claimers that where were these Taliban or extremists before the soviet invasion over Afghanistan they were created by the CIA supported by the whole world and now when the interests of Americans are changed they became terrorists and the maximum world is also saying so (be clear m not defending Taliban) further more Pakistan suffered from this menace created by foreign agencies and our people and our forces are fighting against them took heavy lose to lives and property even than the world is not satisfied and blaming us for terrorism. nothing is wrong in our lovely Pakistan we are a responsible nation and want peace everywhere. i wanna ask those Norwegians who lost their loved ones in recent attacks in oslo and those Indians who lost their loved ones in Mumbai that how difficult it is when one lost his dear one all of a sudden for nothing, so is the case with us we have lost more than 30000 civilians and more than 5000 security force officials much more higher number than any nation in the world and we haven’t ended our struggle yet ..still we are called terrorists. Recommend

  • Ali
    Jul 27, 2011 - 8:30PM

    Has this guy not been declared ‘insane’ by his own lawyer? Why shud I waste my breath over his pessimism..!!


  • Tom Ato
    Jul 27, 2011 - 9:41PM

    Now you know what it feels like to be accused of taking a part in something you didn’t do. Stop blaming our CIA for issues in your country. And for Khalid Masood saying RAW hired the Oslo attacker, I’m actually surprised you didn’t say CIA, MI6, or Massad was a part of it too. Maybe there is hope for Pakistan. :PRecommend

  • Truthbetold
    Jul 28, 2011 - 8:33AM

    You seem to have your head buried in sand like an ostrich. The reason the whole world blames Pakistan is because most acts of global act of terror have had a Pakistani connection. Best of all, all top global terrorists including Osama were caught or killed inside Pakistan.
    Defensive attitude such as yours and trying to shift the blame on to others is not going to solve Pakistan’s terrorist problems. Sorry to be so blunt, but I speak the truth.Recommend

  • khan
    Jul 28, 2011 - 9:28AM

    what connection did you found?
    i found none?

    he simply mention what is the concept of nearly every fundamentalist european on pakistan or afghnistan and other muslim states..


  • Jul 28, 2011 - 9:57AM

    To everyone Pakistan is the root cause of every problem that this world has, even this insane terrorist indirectly blaming Pakistan for his inhuman & heinous act, I know there are many many problems in Pakistan but not everything is bad here, and that’s a sad thing that nobody knows that, even Pakistanis like ‘Hina Jilani’ just highlight bad things about Pakistan, I yet to hear anything good about Pakistan from people like Hina Jilani.Recommend

  • Arshad Mughal
    Jul 28, 2011 - 1:12PM

    Dear All,

    Anders Behring Breivik is a "Terrorist"

    Lets clearly announce a Terrorist Act as a manifestation of Terrorism regardless of Religion, Country or affiliation.

    No justification could be provided for the killing that has been carried out.


  • Peace
    Jul 28, 2011 - 3:38PM

    @Frank @ Hammad @ Iftikhar-ul-Hassan and @ Leon

    It was interesting to read your comments about the Pakistani Liberals where you are accusing them of defaming Pakistan and Islam. The liberals are writing about the bad things happening in Pakistan or writing about the violence being done by militant Talibans and they are writing to raise awareness about these issues. Their writing about these issues does not mean they are defaming Pakistan or Islam. I wish that you guys can understand that remaining in denial or Ostrich mode does not solve the problems.

    I wish you can understand and also help by raising awareness about these issues instead of behaving as apologists for the militants and violent groups like LeT, Sipah-e-saheba etc. Its actually these militants who are giving a bad name to Pakistan and Islam. And on top you add the inaction of a majority of our people who in their hearts support these militants because they consider them a lesser evil fighting a bigger evil USA.

    I wish you can understand this and stop falsely accusing the Liberals who are actually trying to raise awareness by talking about the hatred and intolerance prevailing in our society and talking about these militants for whom our people have soft corners.


  • observer
    Jul 28, 2011 - 10:20PM

    “Why shouldn’t we call him a Christian Extremist?”

    Simple! He did not shout “Jesus be praised” when killing those people, neither did he believe his God ordered him to kill them.


  • Jamal
    Jul 29, 2011 - 4:16AM

    Oh blast it! i mean another Pakistan connection? You know what, i believe that what he thinks should really really come to fruition after all. Its a mad bad world out there isn’t it? National interest is the main priority isnt it ? Ok, so if terrorism is used for creating ‘mini pakistans’ across Europe then I Jamal will proudly support it. The westerners are just asking for it. i live in Karachi and have never heard of a single christian being intimidated or converted, same goes for the hindus and other communities. Infact quite the opposite happens, we are such tolerant towards other communities that instead of intimidating them we intimidate and fight amongst ourselves , haha, sunni killing shia and shia killing sunni.

    I wish Breivik escapes jail and goes on another rampage. it will serve Europe right to experience what we Pakistanis have done for all these years, and for whom?…The WHITE Man’s global interest.

    Clash of Civilizations happening? I am pretty Sure!


  • Jamal
    Jul 29, 2011 - 4:31AM

    just a small question? how did the Norwegian Terrorist learn to make a remote controlled bomb all by himself? was the information available on the dark web? or somebody taught him?


  • Santosh
    Jul 29, 2011 - 10:15AM

    This guy’s action based on irrational fear and hallucination was unwarranted for. There is no justification whatsoever to kill innocents replicating the dastardly act of Islamic terrorists he so despises.

    But there is a global agreement among non-muslims with the views that he is propagating.

    The extensive media coverage to Taliban, Al-Qaeda and innumerable fringe groups of terrorism have made terrorism, fantaism, barbarism synonymous with Islam.

    There is an urgent and immediate need to remove this perception to embark on a concerted widespread media effort on conveying there is an humane and all-inclusive facet to Islamism which has roots in loving fellow human beings.

    Pakistan is in an unique position to showcase itself as a nation of modern tolerant and progressive muslims not the hardline medieval Islam being represented by the terrorist groups. I am sure Pakistan (despite animosity in India-thank the one-sided version of history in history books of both countries) will emerge to be a goodwill ambassador of Islam globally in the year to come and not a harbinger of “Pakistanization of Europe”


  • Muqeet Masood
    Aug 1, 2011 - 2:39PM

    As a Christian fundamentalist , his thinking and observation is right, he don’t want any more Pakistan in the world. where the land claims it as Islamic State , and then every wrong become un lawful from killings, corruption, bertayel , the way the politicians fight at
    Parliament, eevery one ont want to convert their land that way, but the reality is there is nothing Islamic in Pakistan except the name…


  • Aug 2, 2011 - 7:29PM

    Really like your approach.You’re providing information I can use at this moment, and fixin’ to. Thanks!.Recommend

  • Cynical
    Aug 3, 2011 - 3:10AM

    Is it a record? 227 posts so far.Thoroughly enjoying both the informed debate and the jingoistic rants.


  • Hussain
    Aug 3, 2011 - 9:28PM

    @ashok sai:
    Wake up. There are as many and more virulent HINDU and CHRISTIAN terrorits and extremists in this world and they have nothing to do with Islam or Pakistan. India has a dozen separatist movements, LT in Srilanka was non muslim, IRS in UK was christian, Klu Klux Klan in the US was Christian.

    Do your maths correct or keep quietRecommend

  • Saad
    Aug 10, 2011 - 2:56PM

    Isn’t killing their own and blaming Muslim’s an overplayed game or is it that now everyone is having a go at it? Are Muslims the new Nazi of this era?

    We surely have become hated throughout. Another hint towards the final world war people read some Quran and Hadith and educate yourselves, Bunch of confused identity cases. Stop trying to hide behind PAKISTAN and harness your true identity and that’s being a Muslim PERIOD! The whole world considers you MUSLIM NOT PAKISTANI !!!


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