Army confirms brigadier’s arrest for extremist ties

Published: June 22, 2011

An officer on the condition of anonymity said that an official charge sheet against Khan has not surfaced but he is being investigated by the Special Investigative Branch (SIB). PHOTO: FILE

DG ISPR Major Genera­l Athar Abbas says Brigad­ier Khan served at GHQ in Rawalpindi, linked to Hizbul Tehrir. An officer on the condition of anonymity said that an official charge sheet against Khan has not surfaced but he is being investigated by the Special Investigative Branch (SIB). PHOTO: FILE
ISLAMABAD: 

The army has detained Brigadier Ali Khan, an officer who had been serving at the General Headquarters in Rawalpindi, for his alleged ties to extremist organisations, in what appears to be the first such arrest of a senior officer that has been publicly acknowledged by the military.

It is not clear yet if the detention of Brig Khan is part of a larger ‘cleansing process’ or an isolated event in the powerful military, which has come under scathing criticism for its seemingly lax approach to elements who allegedly sympathise with militant groups.

The detained officer had been serving at the army’s headquarters in Rawalpindi for the last two years.

Major-General Athar Abbas, the military spokesperson, confirmed Brig Khan’s detention for his alleged ties to the banned Hizb ut-Tahrir, which seeks to overthrow what it deems to be the ‘pro-American’ government and replace it with an Islamic caliphate system in Pakistan. He is being interrogated by Military Intelligence, said Maj-Gen Abbas.

But the military was quick to dispel the impression that the detained officer was linked with the Taliban or investigations into the Abbottabad  raid that killed al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.“The issue is being blown out of proportions. In the past several such military officials were detained and even court-martialled for having links with Hizb ut-Tehrir,” said a military official, who requested not to be named.

Maj-Gen Abbas said that Brig Khan had been under surveillance for the past several months and was arrested last month when his contacts with the banned outfit were confirmed.

“We don’t allow any other cult in the military other than the military cult,” Abbas told The Express Tribune. “We have zero-tolerance for any extremist or sectarian ideology in the army.” An unnamed senior military officer told the BBC that senior officers were both surprised and “disturbed” when a secret report was presented to them about the “inappropriate” activities of the brigadier.

The officer is known to have a “brilliant” service record and comes from a family with three generations of military service.

Brig Ali’s father was a junior commissioned officer, his younger brother is a colonel serving in the intelligence service. His son and son-in-law are both army captains.

A military source told the BBC that Army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani had asked for a briefing about the brigadier, and after being satisfied about the weight of the “evidence”, ordered the arrest himself.

However, Brig Khan’s family disputed the charges calling him ‘totally innocent.’

“These allegations are totally rubbish,” his wife told the AP.  She said her husband went missing on May 5, and she has been searching for information about his whereabouts since. Authorities had assured her that he would soon return, she said.

Published in The Express Tribune, June 22nd, 2011.

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Reader Comments (120)

  • Jun 21, 2011 - 4:42PM

    These people are malinging the military establishment from the inside. Blaming civilians while the rot is within is just a defensive response. Recommend

  • Aristo
    Jun 21, 2011 - 4:44PM

    All the rotten eggs in one basket. Damn!Recommend

  • Karim Alam
    Jun 21, 2011 - 5:05PM

    There should be zero tolerance for such an activity in any organization!Recommend

  • Rock
    Jun 21, 2011 - 5:07PM

    Oh!Oh! what is this? This was not expected. hmm.. Another attack on pak army base, rahman malik would have blamed “Maximus Prime, bumble bee and the entire transformers gang.” Recommend

  • Babloo
    Jun 21, 2011 - 5:16PM

    Brigadier in contact with ‘stretegic assets’ arrested ? He was supposedly in contact with one of the ‘defunct’ organizations . Whats a ‘defunct’ organization ?Recommend

  • AnisAqeel
    Jun 21, 2011 - 5:20PM

    “The investigation is on and we follow a zero tolerance policy of any such activity within the amry,”
    Thank you, that is the way to go. Please clean it up to the highest level, as lower level can’t go wrong if higher level is sincerely working honestly especially in a military enterprise.
    A good piece of news after a long haul.Recommend

  • Much amused
    Jun 21, 2011 - 5:31PM

    If guilty he should be hanged.Recommend

  • Nadeem Ahmed
    Jun 21, 2011 - 5:35PM

    Perhaps Brigadier was not aware of U turn, or he was so committed he refused to play double role. Recommend

  • Danish
    Jun 21, 2011 - 5:36PM

    Now, this is a golden opportunity for the military establishment to dig out the network and find out the links, that ‘in real’ exists within, We have to realize that when Cancer is within, we can’t blame outsiders, or agencies from other countries. We have to clean our house first. If we look at the history, particularly because of the Afghan war era, we have to bear, it is pertinent that ‘Ex-Jihadis’ have certainly found their roots in our military establishment. It’s not a news, there is no surprise in it. But the nation, especially our military institutions have to first admit this problem, if they really want to address it and correct it.Recommend

  • KM
    Jun 21, 2011 - 5:38PM

    Good job guys … Keep it up … Clean yourselves first, if you want the whole society to be cleaned as well.Recommend

  • Imran
    Jun 21, 2011 - 5:52PM

    This is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many more Ali Khans within the Army and the ISI, who are sinking the country. Any surprises why Pakistan is 12th on the failed state index.Recommend

  • sharma
    Jun 21, 2011 - 5:56PM

    Secretive link of pakistan armed forces with taliban and terrorism is coming out now!!Recommend

  • Shafique
    Jun 21, 2011 - 6:00PM

    now who s this hizb ultehrir…….. are they taliban or al qaeda ??? and what they upto ?/Recommend

  • vasan
    Jun 21, 2011 - 6:03PM

    He must be the tip of the iceberg. Let the Pakistanis pressurize their army to bring out all their closet Talibans, Closet LeT,s JuD,s Jundullahs etc in their army, The army men should be loyal to their country first and last. Recommend

  • Raza
    Jun 21, 2011 - 6:17PM

    Let the investigation begin.. You will come to know about so many people like him involve in these kinda activities..Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Jun 21, 2011 - 6:17PM

    May Allah keep this country Safe and Sound, and if they are wrong, they May Allah punish them for tarnishing the Muslim image in the world.Recommend

  • Roflcopter
    Jun 21, 2011 - 6:19PM

    It would be better if they detained people linked with CIA rather than a harmless organization like Hizbul Tehrir.Recommend

  • Dr.A.K.Tewari
    Jun 21, 2011 - 6:26PM

    Zero Tolrance for such people at all ranks are required ,which is almost impossible in the army of Islamic republic of Pakistan .Recommend

  • Raza
    Jun 21, 2011 - 6:29PM

    @roflcopter… thts the same mistake which we are doing frm decades.. we are not taking anyone seriously and saying that they are harmless.. they all are same ppl coming with new names and equally dangerous like they were before..Recommend

  • Jun 21, 2011 - 6:31PM

    Vienna,21-06-2011
    I await the arrest of those who arranged safe mansion for O/Usama Bin Laden.
    Hizbul Tehrir is a diversionary name.
    -Kulamarva BalakrishnaRecommend

  • Maj (R) Malik
    Jun 21, 2011 - 6:47PM

    In-house mole(s) must be of concern to Gen. Kiani. In-ward peep is the need and also a shift in policy to avoid further ingress of taliban sympathisers.Recommend

  • Zarghun
    Jun 21, 2011 - 6:47PM

    If you honestly start purging the army of religious extremists, you have to arrest many dozens of generals, brigadiers, colonels, majors and captains. See ahead, and the situation is bleak.Recommend

  • Akthar
    Jun 21, 2011 - 6:50PM

    Mr. Balakrishna, may i know why you put a date & place in your unsolicited comments on our websites. We will find solutions to our problems & will consult you if we cant find a solution. Thank you, surely there must be some news sites in india & vienna!Recommend

  • Jun 21, 2011 - 7:02PM

    Do this before we are completely doomed, general. Clean up this very organization/institution which claims to be the defender of this nation before these very people (though some, not all) take us back to the stone age and the dark religion. Tough it might and will be but we have to take these bitter pills to cure the wounds inflicted by the bigotry and hypocrisy of the Islamist fanatics and dictators over the past almost 60 years. The talent of this nation of the beautiful Baloch, Sindhi, Pashtoon and Punjaibi can’t be just let to drown in the quagmire of religious fanaticism of the arabs. Clean this mess and watch us Pakistanis whether Pashtoon, Punjabi, Sindhi and Balcoh give you more support and love then you need, for you are ours, aren’t you?.Recommend

  • san
    Jun 21, 2011 - 7:02PM

    hang him in publicRecommend

  • Ali
    Jun 21, 2011 - 7:05PM

    HT is not harmless, they want to overthrow all the govt.s in Muslim countries to have just one caliph, they live in a fairy tale land. The fact an officer is linked with luny fringe is scary, i’m glad he is caught. Now, who arranged for OBL to remain in Pak for so long???Recommend

  • Nasreen
    Jun 21, 2011 - 7:20PM

    So, the world is right.Now, this orgmendanised organization must correct itself before pointing its finger on others.
    Isn,t shamful to the entire pakistan,how can we proud of our army?
    Extremism has prevailed with in the army and some black sheeps have eroded state’s security Recommend

  • Saleem Qadri
    Jun 21, 2011 - 7:21PM

    Hizbul Tehrir is a defunct organization but still working freely. Almost each Friday in a mosque in Islamabad, I see their people distributing phamplates addressed to Pakistan Army to act against America.Recommend

  • Talha
    Jun 21, 2011 - 7:24PM

    @Roflcopter

    HT, harmless?

    Are you joking?

    This is the same HT whose members are helping terrorists procure equipment for their attacks.

    Refer to Shahzads book for this info.Recommend

  • SharifL
    Jun 21, 2011 - 7:44PM

    Good news. Be aware he i not alone in the army. many more have sympathies with terrorists.Recommend

  • Tashfain
    Jun 21, 2011 - 7:55PM

    @Much amused:
    you should read about Hizb ut Tahrir the largest political Islamic party in the owrld working to establish Islam.And Hizb dont believe in violence to bring change.Hib believes chane will be political and militarily.Recommend

  • Jun 21, 2011 - 8:03PM

    Vienna,21-06-2011
    Akhtarbhai,did I solicit you? It is open space.Tell me if there is consensus in your JAMAAT
    who should be Taqualleef? Now place and time are meant to let you know I am not a
    secretive faith fool.
    -Kulmarva Balakrishna Recommend

  • Tashfain
    Jun 21, 2011 - 8:06PM

    @Raza:
    you should research about Hizb ut Tahrir.they were established in 1953 and uptil now they are same with same target of establishin CALIPHATE which is the promise of Rasool ALLAH peace be upon him.Also hizb dont use weapon and violence to reach there target.Recommend

  • Babloo
    Jun 21, 2011 - 8:10PM

    The Brigadier must have been confused about which are friendly militants and which are enemy militants. He must not have consulted the latest list and thus was helping a ‘defunct’ organization. He should have been helping friendly militants.Recommend

  • Sameer
    Jun 21, 2011 - 8:21PM

    The military and ISI need to clean house completely to regain the trust of the people of Pakistan who they are “supposed” to be defending and protecting. The Pakistani people need to push on this heavily. As the Failed States report suggested, the military and intelligence agencies are largely responsible for Pakistan’s awful position.Recommend

  • faraz
    Jun 21, 2011 - 8:32PM

    I think the Birg wanted to become caliph after reading stories about the Ottoman Harem. Recommend

  • Ali Wazir
    Jun 21, 2011 - 8:38PM

    The orders came from the very top. HT in spite its shrill rhetoric is hardly a “dangerous” terrorist group.My sense is this has more to do with fractures in military mid level command which is increasingly against the Army chief.I think a officers coup has been averted…Recommend

  • Pakistani
    Jun 21, 2011 - 8:40PM

    Why ISPR earlier denied the arrest of any Army officer? If they dont know about this arrest or they were simply fooling the “bloody civilians”?Recommend

  • Mohammad Athar Naqvi
    Jun 21, 2011 - 8:40PM

    Firstly, it’s Hizb Ut Tahrir, and not Hizbul Tahrir.

    Secondly, yes, i’ve heard they wish to overthrow, what they believe are treacherous rulers, and replace them with Islamic Caliphate, only and only through peaceful means. As Muslims, we all seek for implementation of Islamic Shariah aka Caliphate. I don’t see what’s wrong with it. Many amongst us, and our scholars, including late Dr. Israr believed this to be the duty and right of every Muslim.

    Thirdly, I went and googled up this party’s name, and yet not even one case has ever been proven, let alone ever discussed. However, a month or two back, this party was accused by the same government of planting a bomb on the gate of one of the Jamaat e Islaami’s senators house. A day later, the Jamiat and the HizbutTahrir both did a joint-conference thrashing away all allegations by the government. The party, Hizb Ut Tahrir, is known for for it’s intellectual and political discourses, and strictly condones any use of violence in bringing about a real change via Islam.

    It is essential for us to understand that we the Muslimeen of this world, are living in fascinating times, and it up to us to decide which path to take; the path of these corrupt rulers, or those who call upon the sincere in the Armed Forces to implement what only comes from Islam. Verily, truth stands out clear from Injustice.

    The Brigadier should be freed, and the General who ordered the arrest, should publicly apologize and be arrested for obstructing the path of the faithful in implementation of Islam.Recommend

  • S imam
    Jun 21, 2011 - 8:40PM

    And what about the personals who were involved in Raymond Release?? PNS Mehran attacks?? and the oness having links with CIA?? Links with HT such a big crime wow!!! Recommend

  • Jun 21, 2011 - 8:46PM

    why was the BBC Urdu aware of this ? they must have been told this information by someone…perhaps CIA. Recommend

  • Jun 21, 2011 - 8:49PM

    @TightDhoti:
    why do you recommend your own comments ?. most terrorist are civilians like you .being part of a banned organisation most likely an anti american one does not make you a jihadi. the war on terror must stop its ruining the army you cant ask muslim to fight muslimRecommend

  • Nabeel
    Jun 21, 2011 - 8:57PM

    @ everyone above.

    salam to all. first of all before you just jump on the bandwagon and react irrationally to this peace of news that is going wild since this morning. Its too early to say that the brigadier had any contacts substantial contact with the alleged group.

    and even if its true, i dont see what all the fuss is about. Hizb ut tahrir first of all is a non violent political organisation and it has a 60 years history working sincerely across the muslim world to re-establish the caliphate i.e khilafat. the very same khilafat that has always been part of a muslim’s basic belief system. our forefathers even campaign during the first world war for the Ottoman Caliphate. Although musharraf the dictator banned it, there have many cases where the courts in pakistan have challenged that verdict and released the members of Hizb.

    regarding the contact with Army personnel, as some of you mentioned above, Hizb is not aliens its made of people from the society, i,e our friends, brothers, sisters, fathers, cousins.

    we interact with different people, we meet him, we share ideas, we discuss things. there should be no doubt that the people of the hizb love pakistan as much as anyone of you.

    otherwise these guys who are mostly extremely highly educated and professionals would have easily migrated to canada, states, or uk. they have left all those luxuries to help save our country and people from the misery and suffering that the corrupt politicians and dictators have brought us decades after decades.

    so please do not judge anyone’s sincerity based on the information and news that you receive from the media, hizb works openly everywhere and is not afraid of the government thugs who often use arrests and torture to silence us, we believe in ideas of Islam and are always open to debate and challenge.

    I hope that you all be a bit more considerate next time.

    regardsRecommend

  • Kami
    Jun 21, 2011 - 9:22PM

    An other very bad news (if correct): hope complete story comes to light and justice is done Recommend

  • Aftab Kenneth Wilson
    Jun 21, 2011 - 9:32PM

    It is not surprising. Rogue elements in the Armed Forces of any country does not mean that the whole system must be lynched. We all must thank God that our high-ups have now come out of the state of denial. Let them search more and clean this vital institution from these mindsets. I hope same action is also on the cards against other important agencies including Police. This brigadier and his followers must be grilled appropriately and punished according to the law of the land. No Mercy for Merciless People.Recommend

  • Haider
    Jun 21, 2011 - 9:41PM

    Well pondered rules and laws are to be made and honestly followed otherwise all Pakistanis can be convicted under some charges.The term ‘terrorism’ is not defined and being applied upon the whims of individuals or international powers. It is a dangerous situation. It might wipe us out altogether. We are dancing on foreign beats selflessly. Recommend

  • Sajjad
    Jun 21, 2011 - 9:56PM

    Zero tolerance.Recommend

  • wahwahproductions
    Jun 21, 2011 - 9:56PM

    it’s just the tip of the iceberg. Our armed forces are full of sympathizers of terrorist groups – a fallout of the imported-so-called Islamic Ideology imposed upon the land of the pure during the golden years of Zia. We are stuck between america and the militant mullah…The light at the end of the tunnel is fading away fast. Recommend

  • rehmat
    Jun 21, 2011 - 10:05PM

    @TightDhoti:
    This is a good beginning. But Salim Shehzaad had mentioned deep links between ex-military personnel who now are part of Al Qaeda/Taliban and serving military officers and mentioned that there are AL Qaeda cells in the armed forces. These cells should be ruthlessly identified and dealt with.Recommend

  • Faction
    Jun 21, 2011 - 10:18PM

    Roflcopter is not joking. That’s the frightening thing.Recommend

  • Reality
    Jun 21, 2011 - 10:54PM

    Hang them in the middle of road….Pakistan is being weaken and considering now failed stae due to these so-called islamist….Recommend

  • saad
    Jun 21, 2011 - 11:04PM

    If media people eulogize taliban, politicians take donations from osama, and lawyers take out rallies in support of salman taseer’s killer, why is it such a surprise that army people could have links with such orgs?Recommend

  • R S JOHAR
    Jun 21, 2011 - 11:07PM

    The complicity of Pak military officers with various militant organisations is nothing new but arrest of a senior army officer is quite interesting and is a welcome news for both Pakistanis and their Indian counter-parts. Their appears to change in military’s mind-set due to recent attacks by TTP and others who no longer take orders from their mentors. However, Afpak channel had recently published a report that some religious young military officers resigned and joined some outfits and many at junior level were influenced by Taleban ideology. Recommend

  • Javad
    Jun 21, 2011 - 11:14PM

    Hizbul Tahrir has a vision of a muslim caliphate but if you ask them how they will achieve their goal they don´t have a clue. Their main emphasize is on propagating against the west and its puppet government in Pakistan but they don´t serve you with a solution. They fill you with hatred and let you decide for yourself how to encounter the west!Recommend

  • Rameez
    Jun 21, 2011 - 11:21PM

    Hizb ut Tahrir is peacefully working to overthrow current corrupt regimes and bring an islamic system in the country, it is not connected with terrorism.Recommend

  • Chilli
    Jun 21, 2011 - 11:41PM

    Anybody detained for having links with CIA??? No??? Very strange..Recommend

  • Junaid
    Jun 21, 2011 - 11:50PM

    I read some people calling Hizb ut Tahrir a “strategic asset”.. and I felt disappointed.. very disappointed.. this is the level of knowledge and research of today’s youth that can only come up with a MINDSET but not a logical and rational perspective.. go get to know what HT is and then talk to us if it was a strategic asset.. fools, pretending to be intellectuals.Recommend

  • Waqqas
    Jun 21, 2011 - 11:59PM

    those who are calling HT a “militant organization” and a culmination of the extremism that we witness these days are what I can only call the hobby-intellectuals who believe in what anyone would tell them and would spread it without even a slight notion of doubt.
    HT is basically an intellectual movement that is only spreading its vision on peaceful basis.. there sole philosophy is to call for caliphate with the help of people who hold positions of authority.. I feel, to be very polite, disgusted at such naive and foolish analysts who would try to link everything with the escalating militancy in the country.
    Go have a try at writing short stories than giving an expert opinion here.!Recommend

  • Bashir Ahmad
    Jun 22, 2011 - 12:42AM

    Hizbut Tehrir is a Peaceful , non violent Islamic Political party that believes in a political and intellectual struggle against the illegitimate rulers of the Muslim World and the Political order imposed over Islamic lands. It engages with all the segment of society, including political medium and intelligentsia, in an intellectual debate and represent their ideas without imposing them onto Others.

    The Uniqueness of this political party is that it provides real time solutions from Islam regarding good governance, accountable govt, economic progress, political stability , Foreign relations etc etc. No Brigadier would risk his career by supporting a “banned” political party unless it is intellectually too attractive to ignore.Recommend

  • Terry
    Jun 22, 2011 - 1:02AM

    To those Indians rejoicing on this news item. Remember Colonel Prohit who supplied expelosive that were used in Samjhota express carnage. Indian military is no different, it too has connections with extrmists in your country.Recommend

  • john
    Jun 22, 2011 - 1:38AM

    One day kayani will be caught spying… that day will be enlightening day for pakistan…Recommend

  • Jameel
    Jun 22, 2011 - 1:44AM

    Relatives of the arrested brigadier say he is innocent and he merely demanded accountability from high ups;

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2011/06/110621brigkhanadvocatear.shtmlRecommend

  • let there be peace
    Jun 22, 2011 - 1:47AM

    what is the real story? Just having contacts with extremist Islamic organization can’t be the only reason to get arrested by Pakistan army. OnoRecommend

  • Whoa
    Jun 22, 2011 - 1:47AM

    Too many Indians flooding this site. – The Pakistani News Paper.
    Don they not have their own news site to jump on?Recommend

  • Jun 22, 2011 - 3:24AM

    Hizb-ul-Tahrir or ‘Party of Liberation’, is a political group dedicated to re-establishing an Islamic caliphate across the Muslim world. Active in Britain, it is banned in many Muslim countries for its calls to overthrow the sitting governments.

    Source: Aljazeera link text

    I wonder why it is only active in Britian???Recommend

  • Mr. Whistle Blower
    Jun 22, 2011 - 3:45AM

    Brig Khan has done nothing wrong. This is all related to Mr. Kayani trying to suppress any voices in the army that are against him since the Bin Laden episode. He was arrested following Gen. Kayani’s address to officers at the National Defence University (NDU), Brig. Khan had been vocal and critical about the COAS’ actions in connection with the US military cooperation. He was honest and open enough to share his views in front of all the officers present, following that, he was picked up from his home. Evidence to this is the fact that the story above confirms that he was picked a month and a half ago and that Gen Kayani himself ordered that he be arrested.Recommend

  • Romm
    Jun 22, 2011 - 4:00AM

    @Nabeel and Rameez
    If they Are non violent, why don’t they condemn suicide bombing? Is there Any Fatwa againt that from them. Answer is Big NO. They are wolves in sheep’s skin.Recommend

  • Karmon ka Phal
    Jun 22, 2011 - 6:35AM

    If Pakistan digs deeper, it will discover a number of Generals running the terrorist organizations. Hamid Gul is the first one who should be behind bars. He is a rogue if ever there was one. Recommend

  • Jun 22, 2011 - 7:27AM

    Pan Islamic groups under attack. Funny this group is never involved in any terrorism activities. Even in UK there was a call to ban it but there were no evidence justifying a ban. Seems like anything with Islam is on a witch hunt list.Recommend

  • Jun 22, 2011 - 7:31AM

    @Karmon ka Phal:
    Evidence?Recommend

  • Rock
    Jun 22, 2011 - 7:46AM

    @Moise: The sideeffect of your foreign policy is visible to entire world. haven’t you heard that your millitary went for strategic depth and created strategic assets. You still want evidence… and we have to prove those evidences in pakistani court where not a single terrorist punished though terrorist killed 32000 civillians and 5000 millitary persons. Isn’t everything surprising? Today there is no need to give any evidence as those who are asking for it are actually pretending to sleep. No one is interested in your demands. Sweet dreams. Recommend

  • ashwin
    Jun 22, 2011 - 8:09AM

    Good Work mr Kayani and co.Hopefully you can weed out these anti national elements within.To all Pakistani please support Pak Army on this.Great work indeed Recommend

  • Naseer Shezad
    Jun 22, 2011 - 8:12AM

    HT has not killed a single person till today’s date but people still have objection on this organization only because it wants to follow ‘The True Religion’ in true spiritRecommend

  • Arslan
    Jun 22, 2011 - 8:24AM

    Hizb Ut tahrir is a non violent Political organization like PML N …the thing they believe AN ISLAMIC UNION of All muslim Countries…………..

    Is it a crime to unify muslims? shame on all those who linking Peaceful Organization HIZB UT TAHRIR with KILLERS like taliban and alqaeda……

    JUST GO TO WIKIPEDIA and read about Hizb UT TAHRIR…..they are not banned in UK or USA or INDONESIA… MUSHRAF banned HIZB UT TAHRIR because they uttered slogans against Mushraf when he was in power……..

    is this that Pakistan ..????? PAKISTAN KA MATLAB KAYA LA ILAHA ILLALLAH???????Recommend

  • Khurram Shahzad
    Jun 22, 2011 - 8:31AM

    @Romm:
    Who is the target audience of fatwa, by the way.
    Is there a single ‘Fatwa’ ever believed by you in your whole span of life ?
    If you think fatwa does have any significance against rules of engagement of an ubalanced, unjustified and enforced war then what do you think about the latest Fatwa Book published by Tahir-ul-Qadri Fatwa FactoryRecommend

  • Nadeem Ahmed
    Jun 22, 2011 - 8:44AM

    Most of the retired generals and other high rank officers are Taliban sympathizers. They must had begun relationship with Taliban prior to retirement. Therefore they should also be arrested and prosecuted.Recommend

  • Jun 22, 2011 - 9:24AM

    @hamza s:
    You don’t need to ask them to. Last I checked nobody was requesting to get blown up and since you disown the war, it’s for absolutely no reason.Recommend

  • IWriteURead
    Jun 22, 2011 - 9:40AM

    Nice move!Recommend

  • Sheikh
    Jun 22, 2011 - 9:44AM

    Hizb ul tahrir is an intellectual party which calls for the re-establishment of the caliphate, a system that was given to us by Allah(swt) and practically implemented by our beloved Prophet Muhammad(saw).
    The party is working on the way of the prophet of the establishing the caliphate.i.e demanding from the people in authority(the Pak Army ofcourse) to establish the deen. It is a completely non-violent organisation and its 58 years history speaks for itself.
    As for the case of Brig Ali khan. He is one of the sincere people in the Army. He is one of those who cannot see the muslim ummah is this condition. He is one of those who are sincere to Allah, his messenger and the ummah, and who are willing to do this despite knowing what would happen if it becomes known. May Allah(swt) give him istikamah and accept is sacrifice.Recommend

  • sajid imran khan
    Jun 22, 2011 - 9:47AM

    Traitors should be hanged on a public place…Recommend

  • Abdullah
    Jun 22, 2011 - 9:53AM

    Hizb ut-Tahrir is NOT a terrorist organization, it is purely a political party working for the re-establishment of Khilafah. Now don’t tell me that even speaking for Islam also falls in Terror Category!Recommend

  • A
    Jun 22, 2011 - 9:56AM

    This is a press release by the Army do not follow it blindly. we should also have to listen other point of view. Recommend

  • Omar Abdullah
    Jun 22, 2011 - 10:05AM

    @Whoa:
    Hey not only do we flood your sites but we also flood our sites with views and opinions. So chill out babes. I think this is the age of free media and the earlier you learn it, the less disappointed will you be.. Recommend

  • shaheryar
    Jun 22, 2011 - 10:08AM

    all bakwas . Atleast the ppl in army hav caught sumbdy. But wat abt these idiot politicians and bureacrats who hav been playing in the hands of anti state actors. Point to ponder.Recommend

  • Abdullah
    Jun 22, 2011 - 10:13AM

    @Romm: Hizb ut-Tahrir condemns any sort of bombings (Suicide/Non-Suicide) on civilians. It also condemned 9/11 and 7/7 bombings. Recommend

  • Shafique
    Jun 22, 2011 - 10:37AM

    i think everyone should google, Hizb ut tehrir !! and commentRecommend

  • Trooper
    Jun 22, 2011 - 10:42AM

    Hizb ut-Tahrir states on its British website that it adopts the methods “employed by the Prophet Muhammad [who] limited his struggle for the establishment of the Islamic State to intellectual and political work. He established this Islamic state without resorting to violence.” In addition, seven days after the September 11, 2001 attacks on New York Hizb ut-Tahrir issued a statement that “The rules of this Message forbids any aggression against civilian non-combatants. They forbid killing of children, the elderly and non-combatant women even in the battlefield. They forbid the hijacking of civilian aeroplanes carrying innocent civilians and forbid the destruction of homes and offices that contain innocent civilians. All of these actions are types of aggression that Islam forbids and Muslims should not undertake such actions.” The U.S. government, according to the Global Security thinktank, “has found no clear ties between Hizb ut-Tahrir and terrorist activity. Hizb ut-Tahrir has not been proven to have involvement in or direct links to any recent acts of violence or terrorism. Nor has it been proven to give financial support to other groups engaged in terrorism.”
    WikipediaRecommend

  • waqqas iftikhar
    Jun 22, 2011 - 10:46AM

    interesting…..these hizb people sound as loony as they did 10 years ago when my physics teacher of all people tried to get us to join ‘an organization that will bring back the lost glory of islam’….Recommend

  • Iftikhar-ur-Rehman
    Jun 22, 2011 - 11:04AM

    @kulamarva balakrishna:
    And who are you?Recommend

  • Jun 22, 2011 - 11:16AM

    @Mohammad Athar Naqvi:
    I fully agree with you and one should not jump to the conclusion merely on news from an ananimous source.

    Pakistan Army is an institution with great respect command and control. They have their own fool proof policies and procedures including intelligence. There is no liklihood that such an incident might have happened.

    If at all this arrest has been made, let the Army do their complete investigation. Doodh ka Doodh – - – - pata chal jai ga.

    Let us not involve ourselves in to a baseless discussion, which US is propogating and implementing on us through its Jewish media that some of the Generals in Pakistan Army have soft corner for Taaliban – Just to defame Pakistan and her army.

    Regards

    Dr. Saleem Siddiqi
    Johannesburg – South AfricaRecommend

  • Ali
    Jun 22, 2011 - 11:21AM

    things have changed a lot here. someone told me 10 years back that our nation is going through the process of slow poisoning through media and other campaigns and after like 10 years you would see the nation thinking differently, they would literally not love Allah and his Messenger (SAW), no one would stand for the religion and it would be considered impractical. I never belived him and thought that his nation would never let its religion go.

    Reading all the forums of our so called enlightened media scares me of the prediction that guy did. Crusaders have infiltrated very deeply in us decrypting islam to us they wanted. Now, talking of islam, standing for it is all impractical. The worst things we are doing is concluding something without hearing the convicted party. Unlike others, i had chance to meet these people who are far better then what “seculars” think of them. Hizb-ut-Tehrir is never a violent organization, what it believes is all from Quran and Sunnah and not from any British act, which i am afraid is their biggest crime.

    My point of discussion starts with the concept that Islam is the true religion and Muhammad (SAW) is the last and the final messenger of Allah, if this is true then we can proceed with the discussion otherwise there is not point in discussing things here in this forum. Recommend

  • Abdullah
    Jun 22, 2011 - 11:30AM

    @Waqqas Iftikhar: Then sir please you enlighten us with your thoughts? Hizb ut-Tahrir is the only sincere leadership of Muslim world without an iota of doubt. Keep your hatred aside and then thinkRecommend

  • AZ
    Jun 22, 2011 - 11:47AM

    @ Nadeem Ahmed

    And what evidence do you have to support your statement?Recommend

  • Arsalan J. Sheikh
    Jun 22, 2011 - 11:50AM

    I’ve met a few people who were associated with Hizb ut Tahrir. Several things stand out. Firstly, they don’t believe in terrorist acts that harm innocent civilians. However, they do believe that inciting the Army to revolt is a genuine way to achieve their political agenda. I find it hard to believe that this will involve zero violence. They are well aware that they can never achieve their aims via popular elections, as Pakistani masses will not stand behind them the way Turkey’s population backed their Islamist parties.

    Also, while they do attract people who will engage you in pseudo-intellectual discourse, the discourse will only be in line with the parameters they set out. In their opinion, if you oppose Khilifat, you’re openly in violation of Islam, and we all know where that leads. They have no ideas for how a proposed Khalifa would be prevented from abusing power, as the person would essentially be a ruler for life. There would be no way for popular outrage at incompetence or corruption to find a vent, and remove the person.

    Most of these people have their hearts and intentions in the right place. It’s their reasoning I find extreme.

    While I consider the demand for a Khilafat to be fairly loony, unfortunately the disunity, incompetence, and corruption of our current leaders (both military and civilian) leaves people with no other alternative than turning to people like these. So either our democratic system starts functioning, or else these grim alternatives will become more and more main-stream.Recommend

  • ali
    Jun 22, 2011 - 12:04PM

    End game is on. hope and pray we survive as nation.Recommend

  • Amer K
    Jun 22, 2011 - 12:06PM

    lots of emotional stuff, especially to my Indian friends
    Pak Army has an internal self reliant system where such officers are always take out of the syste, nothing new haa, all armed forces or for that matter, all MNCs even have that system, the only issue is that how can a Brig. go through to such a rank and have these links and the answer is that he may not have these ideas / links before and may have developed it by time so lets not blame the whole army for that.Recommend

  • asim
    Jun 22, 2011 - 12:32PM

    At least in Pakistan people are arrested for breaking the law. In India, nothing happens to Indian officers for committing human rights violations in Kashmir and eastern India. Recommend

  • Bilafond
    Jun 22, 2011 - 12:42PM

    @Imran: Please you say there are many more like them; please provide these names you will do a great service. If you know and don’t then you are part of that group.Recommend

  • Ahmed
    Jun 22, 2011 - 1:20PM

    no matter what this organization stands for whether its voilent or not. In Army its very clear that u have to follow the orders, if Hizb ut Tahrir was banned then under no circumstances any military personal is allowed to have contacts with this organization. if the brigadier is found guilty after the investigation, he should be dealt severly..Recommend

  • Iftikhar-ur-Rehman
    Jun 22, 2011 - 1:20PM

    @Norwegian Pakistani:
    Because it is being funded my MI6Recommend

  • Mohammad Akram Tariq
    Jun 22, 2011 - 1:55PM

    I am very much shocked. This shows the inside situation of our Armed Forces. Since Pakistan came into being we have been proud on our Forces but now we feel insecure. This shows that Nawaz Sharif is right when he critisises the performan ce of Armed Forces. God bless ourselves.Recommend

  • positive pakistani
    Jun 22, 2011 - 2:50PM

    For those who don’t know about Hizbul-Tehrir (an international organization) who have recruited people having brilliant track records in different fields including PhDs, Doctors, Scholars etc.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir

    You probably have seen an ex-hizbul tahrir activist “Majid Nawaz” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz
    on TV in different talk shows (if not, search youtube) who often shares the ideology of Hizbul-tehrir and how he was brain-washed to follow that despite having a brilliant educational record.Recommend

  • jai
    Jun 22, 2011 - 3:24PM

    Do they pick names out of a Mughlai restaurant menu Hizbut tehrir, laskar- e-taiba, mutton do pyaza.Recommend

  • Jameel
    Jun 22, 2011 - 4:46PM

    Brig Khan has a long history of opposing the war on terror. See this link.
    Things are not so simple in this case. This matter needs more investigation.Recommend

  • ahmed
    Jun 22, 2011 - 4:51PM

    @jai:
    nice research…:)Recommend

  • Jun 22, 2011 - 5:46PM

    @Rock:
    US foreign policy is responsible for creating Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, TTP, LeJ and dont know how many others.

    Funny all these problems are around countries around Russia and China. Real target is China and Russia and these groups are being used to all destabilize these states which these countries have ties to or supply resources to the upcoming super powers.

    I think general dumbing of people and the media make them believe what newspaper put them in their mouth. Lack of historical, geo-political and economic knowledge make the masses parrot what to say and leave the critical thinking to elites. That is the reason there is no evidence. People wake up after their dreams, but do they snap out of brain-washing?Recommend

  • Imran Ali
    Jun 22, 2011 - 6:30PM

    Hizb-ut-Tahrir is the peaceful group which works on the methodology of Prophet (S.A.W) to establish Islamic Caliphate,. & believes that Nusrah (authority) will be given from Pak-Army,. but Secularists democracy exposed!!! According to secular and democratic mindset if you talk for implementation of Qur’an and Shariah then you must be detained behind bars!!! This is what happened with Brigadier Ali., I salute him,. the Lion of Islam., May Allah accept from him & give him Istiqamah under detention.. & Establish Caliphate soon… AameenRecommend

  • Rock
    Jun 22, 2011 - 6:40PM

    @Moise: Are you a nation or not? Don’t talk about US foreign policy and their game plan do you have any foreign policy or not? Your leaders (millitary as well as democratic), if they had followed US policy Will you allow them in future also? Why did you people and your elders allow them to play with fire? You have not only burn your fingers but the entire body. How will you give medical treatment to your society? Think Think time is running out. The problem will become much more complex. Recommend

  • Yasir
    Jun 22, 2011 - 6:45PM

    See the real story behind brig arrest from BBC.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2011/06/110622brigalikhanprofile_zs.shtmlRecommend

  • Malay
    Jun 22, 2011 - 6:51PM

    Let’s wait till the investigation is complete.Recommend

  • Romm
    Jun 22, 2011 - 11:20PM

    @Khurram
    For Fatwa Read Condemnation!Recommend

  • Cautious
    Jun 23, 2011 - 3:56AM

    He must have been arrested for associating with terrorist who are not on the “approved list” – which is the root of the problem.Recommend

  • Ali
    Jun 23, 2011 - 10:07AM

    see his profile….

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2011/06/110622brigalikhanprofile_zs.shtml

    somebody stood up against tyranny, american pupitism, rotten leadership and system, corruption….
    now gets the reward to speaking loud the truth =)Recommend

  • Indian
    Jun 23, 2011 - 11:55AM

    @asim
    You just funny…Recommend

  • M.
    Jun 23, 2011 - 5:40PM

    He had no links with anyone. He is innocent. He is just one on those fearless officers who had the courage to try to go against their seniors. Thats the truth.
    Are you people insane? How can you believe in what media says?
    “There are some other reasons behind these arrests, which, the present army leadership is concealing,” said General Mirza Aslam Beg said who does not believe that Brigadier Ali Khan and four other officers have been arrested on the grounds of having contacts with a banned organization, the Hizb-ut-Tehrir.
    Brigadier Ali is one competent officer who is honest to his country and no matter what, we should be proud of him. seriously. Recommend

  • hasan mehmood
    Jun 23, 2011 - 7:46PM

    @Roflcopter , @Tashfain
    @Mohammad Athar Naqvi

    There is apparently nothing wrong with HT. Instead superficially their ideology seems very attractive particularly concerning a united UMMAH under a Caliph. In any democratic country a group can peacefully propagate any ideology in normal times. But this is a very critical time in our country.Although they claim to be peaceful, their objectives cannot be met in a democratic manner in any Islamic country. Why? They dont believe in elections and no major political party / ruling elite in any Muslim country will ever commit collective suicide by advancing their agenda.

    Now lets fast forward. There is a critical mass of people in agreement with HT agenda and objectives but they are unable to bring the desired change in a peaceful manner. Naturally they will feel frustrated as any self righteous person should.Now enter the militant / extremist / Jehadi groups. They will say
    {Look we have same agenda i.e enforcement of sharia across all Muslim countries without caring for political boundaries. And since preaching / publishing / propagating etc. has got you nowhere, why not join hands.}
    Knowing human nature it is quite conceivable that at least a minority of HT converts will fall for it in all sincerity. And if that minority includes people like Brigadier Ali, that will be end of society as we know it.

    By the way what they are preaching (howsoever attractive) is not even theoretically possible.
    Unless they want a bloody revolution in most of the Muslim countries. Lets assume we all agree on Saudi Arabia being the Head Quarter of Islamic Caliphate. What does that mean? Has anyone thought about it? It means the Saudis and for that matter all rich Gulf Emirate population will agree to share the same lifestyle as of Sudanese, Yemenis, Somalians etc. The entire resources of Islamic Caliphate (in order to be so called) have to be equally distributed among all Muslims. Is that possible even in dreams? SO INSTEAD OF LEADING GULLIBLE MUSLIMS TO A PIPE DREAM WITH SUBSEQUENT PLAYING INTO THE HANDS OF RELIGIOUS BARBARIANS, WHY DOES NOT HT CONCENTRATE ON DOABLE AGENDA WITHIN NATIONAL BOUNDARIES. Recommend

  • Rana Mansoor Ali
    Jun 24, 2011 - 6:30PM

    I have read about this group and anyone who does even a little bit of research before saying something, will find out a lot of facts about this group.
    First of all, HT is not based in britian. It is a political party that was formed in Palestine in 1953 by an islamic scholar named Taqiuddin Nabhani, who was also a judge at that time in the islamic courts. The group spread from there and now works in over 40 countries and is the single largest islamic political group in the world. It works in almost all muslim countries and is also working amongst the muslim communities in various european and other non-muslim countries. It did spread particularly fast in britian and is particularly active there. There is a very large muslim community present in britian, mostly of south asian descent, and HT worked extensively amongst them, engaging in discussions and debates. The reason why it is not banned in britian is not that the british gov doesn’t want to do it or it backs HT…the reason is simply that HT is not a militant group and therefore the UK gov has no pretext to ban it. How can they ban the group when it is simply a non-violent political group! There is something called freedom of speech in UK and some other western countries…and therefore a group has a right to voice its opinions and the gov cannot ban it as long as the group is not violent or does not encourage or propogate violence…and HT does nothing like that. The UK gov has tried many times to ban the group…the last time this happened was after the 7/7 bombings in London…when tony blair vowed to ban HT. Some intelligence reports surfaced in the media later in which blair’s own advisors and the intelligence agencies advised blair not to ban the group because they said that a ban will not hold in the courts. The reports submitted to blair argued that the HT will go to the courts in UK to challenge the ban and the gov will not be able to defend its case because there is no evidence to suggest that HT is a terrorist group and hence the courts will over-turn the ban. The reports also suggested that HT will gain even more popularity in the whole process as even more people and specially the youth will flock towards HT if the muslim community feels that this group is being unfairly targeted. Thus blair did not ban HT and that is the reason britian has not banned HT to this day. This conspiracy theory that the british gov backs HT is totally irrational and baseless. HT in fact criticizes the british gov very sharply in its leaflets and seminars etc. It considers britian to be one of the biggest enemies of islam.

    That is how independent courts behave. Britian does have an independent judiciary and therefore the gov cannot just go ahead and ban whoever it wants. Unfortunately, Pakistan and almost all other muslim countries do not have an independent judiciary. So the fact that HT is banned in almost all muslim countries (though not banned in all muslim countries), this fact does not in any way prove that HT is an extremist or terrorist group. No muslim country has an independent judiciary and most have kingships or other dictatorial regimes. So these dictators obviously do not tolerate anyone who critisezes them and HT does exactly that. So these regimes banned the HT. There is not one….not even a single proof that HT is an extremist or terrorist group. The pakistani courts have in fact recently started to exert independence. Therefore the pakistani courts are able to judge cases objectively without external pressures from agencies. That is the reason why HT has been able to operate freely in pakistan up till now. The agencies and the police have arrested HT workers many times, but the workers always get bails from the court and the cases against them always get dismissed later on. The reason is that HT is not a violent group…and the agencies have never been able to prove otherwise. HT is just a poliltical group and hence have a right to express their views and the courts know it. Thus the courts always let HT workers go as there is never any proof against them of wrongdoing. Expressing one’s opinion is not a crime.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiuddin_al-Nabhani

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizbut-Tahrir#Hizbut-TahrirbyregionRecommend

  • Jun 24, 2011 - 9:18PM

    Vienna,24-06-2011
    Rana Mansoor Ali mia,that is a problem.It is a front organization painting non Muslims “enemies” and gathering intelligence on the “enemies” for the violent groups like Al-Queda.
    It is up to the counter intelligence agencies of the effected countries to trace the
    links in modern democracies.As experience shows HT members are not barred being
    commandos either.Only at the right time.So long that is a sleeping wake entity.
    -Kulamarva Balakrishna Recommend

  • Khan Ali
    Jun 24, 2011 - 9:31PM

    Please donot jump to the conslusion. We should not believe a word our our establisthment says. We should stop and see at the evidence, used our brains. Based on my research Brig Khan is a true Pakistan loving army officer and he is arrested after the following statement he made

    ” In his opinion, the culprits who had hidden Bin Laden and allowed the Americans to get away with breaching Pakistan’s sovereignty were to be found within the army”Recommend

  • Jun 27, 2011 - 9:35AM

    @Rock:
    All leaders are pawn pieces of US foreign policy how can they make policy for Pakistan? My elders did pretty good job in making Pakistan but the thugs now run it thanks to dollars from US. Time has already ran out, understand how you can plan for your family and just enjoy the show now.Recommend

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