US tip-off on two IED-making compounds was incorrect: ISPR

Published: June 18, 2011

ISPR refutes media reports which claim Pakistan's forces helped terrorists flee bomb-making factories in Waziristan.

ISLAMABAD: 

Pakistan military on Friday denied it tipped off terrorists helping them escape the purported Improvised Explosive Device (IED) factories in Waziristan after the US reportedly shared intelligence about the militant-run facilities.

“This assertion is totally false, malicious and the facts on the ground are contrary to it,” said a statement issued by the Inter-Service Public Relations (ISPR).

It said the intelligence information was received regarding four compounds suspected of being used as IED making facilities. However, the Army would not say if the intelligence was provided by the US.

The operation was launched against the suspected sites as a result of which two were found to be used as IED making facilities, which were destroyed.

“Information on the other sites proved to be incorrect. Some persons have been arrested and they are under investigation,” the statement added. However, it did not say where and when this operation took place.

American officials told The Associated Press in early June that they had shared satellite information with Pakistan about two militant bomb-making factories and that within 24 hours; the militants cleared out the sites, raising suspicions that the Pakistanis shared/leaked the intelligence information. The story appeared just hours before CIA Director Leon Panetta was due to hold crucial talks with Pakistan’s military and intelligence chiefs last week. However, military sources insist that such news items are part of a well-thought-out campaign to discredit the country’s security forces.

Relations between the two countries have been tense since the Abbottabad operation on May 2 in which Bin Laden was killed.

Published in The Express Tribune, June 18th, 2011.

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Reader Comments (44)

  • Chilli
    Jun 17, 2011 - 5:53PM

    Get out of US war on terror, otherwise our Army will earn further bad name due to foreign touts and anti Pakistan bloggers. Correct internal security which is of utmost importance along with borders security. Long Live Pak Army. We remain proud of our Jawans.Recommend

  • Khurram
    Jun 17, 2011 - 5:57PM

    Thousand lies to cover one lie. No one believes you any more. Recommend

  • Jun 17, 2011 - 6:06PM

    Vienna,17-06-2011
    Nice to know reluctant tardy response was the reason two tipped groups escaped.
    But they could not be hidden from eyes flying on the sky high above beyond the
    range.Now the new Al Queda leader will be targeted with or without Kayani-Pasha
    co-operation.
    Kulamarva Balakrishna Recommend

  • ashwin
    Jun 17, 2011 - 6:14PM

    Until some more PNS Meharan type attacks happen,this will be SOP of Pakistan establishment.Recommend

  • Haris Iqbal
    Jun 17, 2011 - 6:40PM

    What difference does it make! they would have informed the Pakistani intelligence after informing their proxy terrorists in Waziristan. Just another effort to put some pressure on Pakistan Army. The agency is just being demonized in front of its own people along with the world
    Recommend

  • Pundit
    Jun 17, 2011 - 6:43PM

    ISPR is directly contradicting what the US media has already extensively reported.

    Who has greater credibility?:)Recommend

  • Feroze
    Jun 17, 2011 - 7:16PM

    Why tell the Pakistani government about it. If they had proof that the compounds were being used for making bombs, just drone them. Something very fishy here. Recommend

  • Roflcopter
    Jun 17, 2011 - 7:16PM

    @Pundit, ISPR ofcourseRecommend

  • Shock Horror
    Jun 17, 2011 - 7:20PM

    @Pundit:
    Most intelligent people know that ISPR has zero credibility, same as General Musharraf!Recommend

  • Billoo Bhaya
    Jun 17, 2011 - 7:20PM

    “All Governments lie” said Gates, which includes the USG. Obviously, no intelligence agency is going to spill the beans. CIA has committed more offences against foreign governments and people than all the intelligence agencies of the world combined. They have yet to identify the killer or Kennedy who was shooting from the Grassy Knoll that fateful day in Dallas?? Recommend

  • Taimur Rafique
    Jun 17, 2011 - 7:36PM

    @Pundit: Ummm ISPR :-) Recommend

  • Achtung Achtung
    Jun 17, 2011 - 7:37PM

    Off with your lies, ISPR. Dont trouble yourself, you are not believed any more.Recommend

  • Babloo
    Jun 17, 2011 - 7:44PM

    As per reports, USA has video evidense of bomb making machinery and personnel , being removed from the bomb making factories , within 48 hours of USA SHRING the intelligence about the presence of them with Generals Kuch Kiya Nahi and General Kuch Pata Nahi.

    Some say, this was an US test launched to prove that what they say about a deep nexus between the establshment and terrorists, is true. Recommend

  • billo
    Jun 17, 2011 - 7:52PM

    Latest Press Release by the ISPR: The World is Flat!Recommend

  • Ali
    Jun 17, 2011 - 8:01PM

    Pakistan Army has got to end this delusional idea of a constant war with India and that somehow the terrorists are on our side and that this is not OUR war. After this many bombs having exploded in Pakistan, millions of Pakistani being terrorized and Al-Qaeda aspirations of taking over the entire continent which by the way includes Pakistan, are we still stupid enough to think that this is only Amerca`s war and somehow miraculously the Taliban/ terrorists are on OUR side!! This delusion by the army and the people of Pakistan will cost us dearly if we dont open our eyes NOW. We have to declare these terrorists as Non-Muslims to begin with. They have to be destroyed, Pakistan Army has got to clean up their act and NOW, otherwise Pakistan is nearing annihilation at its own hands. Recommend

  • Cautious
    Jun 17, 2011 - 8:22PM

    Wouldn’t it be great if you read a story where the ISI or military actually arrested someone within their organization who has been conspiring with the Taliban —- seems like all their effort is to deny, cover up, and intimidate reporters rather than clean up their act.Recommend

  • Jun 17, 2011 - 8:30PM

    At least we are happy they are quickly responding American Media.Pakistan Zindabad, Pak-Army Zindabad. Recommend

  • Babloo
    Jun 17, 2011 - 9:32PM

    @Feroze,
    The reason USA did not drone them ( USA says that the bomb factories were in populated area ) was to test and prove what happens when intelligence is shared at the highest level and why USA is now reluctant to share information.Recommend

  • FactCheck
    Jun 17, 2011 - 9:34PM

    Wrong; before or after the tip-off. You may able to sell this in Pakistan since most Pakistani’s are obsessed with conspiracy theories. How can arial, X-ray photographs from space be wrong? Recommend

  • K B Kale
    Jun 17, 2011 - 9:41PM

    I read in Washington Post (>a ‘decadent’ Western newspaper?) that Gen. Kayani was heckled by his own senior Officers in Armed Forces. If it is true, then it is too late to do anything. I nly hope that to overcome this dangerous situation, the Armed Forces Top Brass don’t get driven to their usual (mis)adventure…..!Recommend

  • Jun 17, 2011 - 9:45PM

    Pak Army now on wrong side of world power. There is new story everyday.Recommend

  • khauf.
    Jun 17, 2011 - 9:58PM

    The way pakistani foreign policy is not clear about war on terror, the same way the relationship between ISI and CIA is not clear.. sometime they do act to blame each other and sometime they do things to support each other…. Recommend

  • Mirza
    Jun 17, 2011 - 9:59PM

    Army should be stopped from making any statements. No more politics and double talk. Recommend

  • Aftab Kenneth Wilson
    Jun 17, 2011 - 10:02PM

    We beg you to please believe us. Inform us before hand when ever you want to target any highest level target in our country. We are “HARDLY working” to help common enemy.Recommend

  • Thinking
    Jun 17, 2011 - 10:18PM

    @ Chilli – how many lies must you hear before you realize you’re being treated like an idiot? Pakistanis should be offended by the lies they have been fed by their government and military. The military has deluded Pakistan into thinking it’s a brave force with great results. The military has yet to win one war. We’re not even sure they want to win the war on terror.

    Innocent soldiers are to be admired but the military’s top brass needs to be wiped clean. Start with a clean slate. Bring in good, honest people before the military loses Balochistan, FATA, and Northern Areas like it lost Bangladesh in 1971.Recommend

  • syed ali
    Jun 17, 2011 - 10:36PM

    @Pundit: For sure US media does not have. remember Iraq War and stories in NY times about WMD?Recommend

  • Haris Iqbal
    Jun 17, 2011 - 10:45PM

    @Pundit: that is not greater credibility, its plainly greater expanse. US media shouted a lot when US wanted to attack Iraq for its WMDs. Did US find any?? moreover ISPR contradicting the US media is plainly Pakistan’s choice, its not that if they said anything turns Biblical.Recommend

  • mahmood
    Jun 17, 2011 - 11:17PM

    No investigation – no explanation – just denial. Akin to OBL debacle – lots of focus on denial and finding everyone who was involved in finding OBL but zero focus on finding those within the establishment that have been protecting OBL. No doubt your allies have a poor opinion of Pakistan — and if your allies think poorly of you one can imagine how the rest of the World views Pakistan.Recommend

  • G. Din
    Jun 17, 2011 - 11:34PM

    @Feroze:
    “Why tell the Pakistani government about it….”
    Could it be they were told to trap them to provide evidence of their perfidy? Which, of course, they did and the evidence was recorded.
    Earlier whenever US complained about leakage of intelligence shared with Pakistan, they were summarily dismissed by a convenient ploy ” No such things happened. Show us the proof”. Well now, you were shown the proof! How does it feel to be on the back foot n-th time?Recommend

  • Jun 18, 2011 - 12:23AM

    @Ali: you talk about sides, i would request you to kindly use your own names, let aside our Muslim names, dont disgrace them putting them up as yours! if you are so ashamed of coming up with your own names, than quit trolling on our websites.Recommend

  • mehdi Jamal
    Jun 18, 2011 - 12:26AM

    The U.S. shares information on terrorists with the Pakistani military & lo and behold, the terrorists quickly choose to leave camp. The military expects us to believe that this simply was a coincidence!! Let us face it. For the 50+ years the military dictatorship has ruled Paskistan, we have heard time & again this kind of crap from the military & their surrogates. And most of the Pakistani public has been hood-winked into believeing that crap. But, it is not flying with the rest of the world. Pakistanis need to dig their head out of the sand. Until the public wises up to what the military & ISI have done to Pakistan’s standing in the world and the mayhem they have endowed, Pakistanis will be held in bondage and those deeply brain-washed will continue to chant robot-like “Pakistan Zindabad, Pak-Army Zindabad” or some such feel-good slogans.Recommend

  • Akthar
    Jun 18, 2011 - 7:43AM

    Am sad to see some people blaming fellow pakistanis saying they change their names into mislim names to post in the forum. Plz! All people like me is asking for accoumtability from our corrupt army, politicians.
    Is it wrong to what is their foreign policy, how did the episodes of Raymond davis, PNS, OBL, saleem shehzad, karachi & kharotabad, benazir happen? How to ensure such things doesn’t happen again? Please tell us facts, just condemnation & conspiracy theories wont do!Recommend

  • Iftikhar-ur-Rehman
    Jun 18, 2011 - 2:52PM

    US is known to provide wrong information. I hope you all re4member Collin Powel lying to UNO about Weapons of Mass Destruction of Iraq!!! They are very INTELLIGENT!!!!Recommend

  • Cautious
    Jun 18, 2011 - 5:28PM

    And what was the explanation for the video provided which showed detail film of the bomb factories being abandoned — was that “incorrect”?Recommend

  • K B Kale
    Jun 18, 2011 - 5:44PM

    @Iftikhar-ur-Rehman:
    I think you are wrong here. The ultra-conservative ‘bad guys’ around Bush Jr. fooled Colin Powell by deliberately giving him wrong information (including about Anthrax powder a vial of which he showed to the world during that speech). He made that speech believing in what his colleagues had given to him. When he realized that he was cheated by them, he was very upset. This event was one of the reasons he resigned as Bush’s Secretary of State.Recommend

  • karahilite
    Jun 18, 2011 - 5:46PM

    America would post the video of those camps and post videos to prove that how tip off helped them run away!!

    whom are we fooling ?
    ISI ,please be serious and loyal to your verdict and jobRecommend

  • Hedgefunder
    Jun 18, 2011 - 10:02PM

    Why does it take ISPR, so long to respond to any newdworthy item??
    After all they are very resourceful in reporting and answering the crap which is always taken with pinch of salt even by the locals, let alone international bodies!!!!!
    One should also perhaps ask as to the precise role of this dubious mouth piece of the Army!!!
    Perhaps its too wide an role, which also involves feeding lies to the local media arranging the Honour brigades on to the streets as and when required by the Army to support whatever causes are the Flavour of the Day etc…..Recommend

  • loose dhoti
    Jun 18, 2011 - 11:05PM

    irony, that the indians are saying they donjt trust ISP anymore hahahahRecommend

  • xor
    Jun 19, 2011 - 10:01AM

    This war has not only divided the society, but also took the toll in army, which comes from the same society. We have to pull off from this war, which only resulting in further division in the society and in army. But, I have no hope on our leadership, they not have the capacity to take decisive decision. All things lie how well US & Taliban negotiations go. Any positive development which ensures Taliban representation in political process and ending the violence will def have positive affects across the border. And exit of USA from Afghanistan will help us in normalization of the situation. Recommend

  • Khalid Rahim
    Jun 19, 2011 - 11:34AM

    @K B Kale: You are very right Powell was a misfit in this group of neocon weasels and now
    he keeps his distance from those rodents.Recommend

  • Khalid Rahim
    Jun 19, 2011 - 11:40AM

    Caught between the fox and the weasel what would the hen tell her chicks as she is about to lay an egg? Most of you have post graduate degrees, some with doctrates in various philosophy. Help us solve this quiz. thanxRecommend

  • K B Kale
    Jun 20, 2011 - 4:15AM

    @Khalid Rahim:
    weasels and rodents! I love the choice of words you have used to describe Bush Jr’s cabinet members!Recommend

  • Hedgefunder
    Jun 20, 2011 - 1:54PM

    @xor:
    Do you really believe that the withdrawel from Afghanistan will solve the problems pakistan has in NW?? How??
    Possibly by asking the Jihadis in NW to go and reside in Afghanistan!!!!
    This problem is not going to be solved by withdrawel of US/NATO, as the Political Set up in Afghanistan is simply incapable to Govern without assistance and we all will find that they will revert back to Tribal Situations and Taleban will be back on top, which incidently is exactly what Pakistan wants in the Country.
    Mayham ! The longer it goes on the better from Pak point of view, hence their inaction in NW!!!Recommend

  • Khalid Rahim
    Jun 20, 2011 - 2:17PM

    @K B Kale: This is a vicious propaganda being stewed by Indian groups such as SAAG that has suggested through eurasia review that junior officers would revolt against Kayani?
    Washington Post will publish anything that serves the vested interest of zionists and their proteges. Try to read Veterans Today and get an insight to the game being played behind the ‘Green Door’ by the weasels and the rodents with the help of the Fox and Vixen.Recommend

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